13.Mar.2015 OSU at Arizona State

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Conference play begins today. The Beavs are 28-46 all time vs ASU, so this is always a tough series. 2 of 3 would be success.

I don’t have any insight into this game or series because I haven’t scouted ASU.

But from an individual perspective, a player I am worried about is Gabe Clark–he was disastrous in conference play last year. If Casey insists on hitting him cleanup it’s cause for concern, as he could be a rally-killer in that slot. Jim Wilson mentioned Clark likes the new ball. Maybe, and maybe that’s transformed him as a hitter, but like Thomas, I have to see it to believe it. That starts today.

6:30pm via stream. The next two games will be on pac-12 network.

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  • That Other Guy says:
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    Not to get all biblical on you, but the comparing Clark to Judas is wrong. Judas was the disciples that betrayed Jesus and turned him into Pontius Pilate’s soldiers. I think instead of Judas you meant Thomas, he was the disciple who had to see the holes in Jesus’ hands and side to believe he was crucified.

    Should be a great series, this team is so different from a year ago. They have yet to use the same lineup in back-to-back games, before the season Casey was upset with how difficult of a non-conference schedule the team had yet had almost the same record as a year ago.

    OT: But one of the writers at blitz wrote a piece with some eye-opening quotes from players comparing this year to last year.
    https://oregonstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1746036

    • angry angry says:
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      Thomas.

      9 years of catholic school, too. lol

      • scotty says:
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        Ohhh that must be where doubting thomas comes from!

        *feels so enlightened*

        • Jack says:
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          Really?

          Because it’s not like the one book that would lead you there is on the burn list.

    • angry angry says:
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      Your link is behind Mamma Machado’s totalitarian paywall.

      • That Other Guy says:
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        Here are some of the good quotes

        “These practices to me are way better,” said redshirt freshman Bright Ugwoegbu. “People always talk about how ‘you practice how you play’ so we practice physical, we play physical, so it was a good day for us.”

        “I love it. I know it was a little scrappy today, but that’s football,” said sophomore Darrell Songy. “I felt like the past years we have been soft and they were not letting us come out and be aggressive with each other and that’s why we have had slow starts in the season.”

        The story wasn’t written by Machado, some new writer I have not heard of.

        • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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          Thanks for passing along the quotes. I’ve got a cake with a file in it, should the need arise!

        • Mama says:
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          a few more from the same article:

          “It’s on our coach, he gets riled up and fired up. He has us competing every day,” said Songy. “He doesn’t give us a chance to get settled to where we feel like we are in a safety zone.”
          The biggest area that needs improvement according to Ugwoegbu is patience and not being over aggressive.
          “We need to improve our patience. Last year’s defense it was attack the hole and go. Now we are to be patience and let the D-linemen work out their thing and we come in and clean up.”

          “In five practices it’s been unbelievable the improvement in the group,” said Sitake.

          • There were two scuffles that happened in the 20 minute media period, hard to tell how the first one started. The second started when cornerback Devin Chappell tackled/stripped the ball from running back Chris Brown after the whistle. Center Josh Mitchell came to Brown’s rescue and jumped on Chappell starting a bench-clearing brawl.

          • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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            You don’t want to see actual brawls, but it would be good to see players come to the defense of other players in games.

            I still remember Quizz getting cheap shot once and no one on the team even reacted. No one even helped him up. I love the new attitude and passion. Much better than the “just glad to be here” attitude that seemed to be the old mantra.

          • scotty says:
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            By Washington State no less. You’re gonna let freaking Wazzu punk you like that?!

          • wannabeav says:
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            among the lowest of the low points in the late-Riley era. In fact, upon reflection I think that game, that season is when I began to get a clue that Riley had become used up as a coach.

    • Jack says:
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      Your reply brought reminiscences of violence.

      Then again… what is not violent about the whole thingy?

      Btw… Thomas doubted Yeshua existed because…. he was dumb?

      Get real. Yeshua lived. Thomas doubted it in fantasy. Yay!

      Let’s take conspiracy one step further.

      • Jack says:
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        Did everyone get that?

        I can tell all about Yeshua surviving crucifixion then living in the south of France.

    • Jack says:
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      It’s really hard to respond to something like this, because it’s just crap to start with.\

      I mean, how do you argue with crap?

      You bring up your mythology and pose it as something relevant.

      That doesn’t work.

      To beat you up on the subject, you borrow your stupidity.

  • angry angry says:
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    In the McGiven mic’d up video, Del Rio throws some great balls.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JKGZiATpNE

    I know he is more mobile than Mannion, but anyone have more insight into just how mobile he is?

    • That Other Guy says:
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      On a scale form 1-10, one being Mannion and 10 being Seth Collins, I would say is is arond the 5-6 mark. Not as mobile as Mitchell.

      • angry angry says:
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        That’s what I was thinking, 5….is that enough in this offense? Justin Roper did run this type of offense for Oregon….and effectively. So maybe. Maybe I was wrong to write off Del Rio (I liked him for Riley’s system, but didn’t think he had a shot in this one). His short throws seem erratic. It almost seems like he throws the deep ball better than short passes (Has a case of the Donovan McNabb’s and throws the short passes into the ground, wide, and/or bad spirals). Mitchell seems like a better short passer and quicker runner. It’s a weird situation.

        • That Other Guy says:
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          From what I could gather from the few times I have stood outside of the gates at practice and from Saturdays practice is he is a good enough athlete to run it, but he has not been as consistent as Mitchell. Towards the end of the year last year Mitchell was my dark horse to win the job even if Riley was still here. Del Rio just hasn’t been as not transitioned to live reps, those deep throws were being thrown at a stationary target, in practice he has struggled in live drills.

          • Jack says:
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            I’m sorry… well… not really…

            If you can’t hit a target, you will not win the QB lottery.

            Did you hit a target?

            Is that a bad question to ask of a QB?

    • angry angry says:
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      I like that drill of throwing beanies at the QB. Did Langsdorf do that?

    • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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      If anyone goes to the open practice tomorrow we can probably get a good report about them and their current running/passing ability.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Go baseball beavs

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Oregon State's Sean Mannion had a great pro day today, throwing the ball like an NFL QB. A lot of teams will likely take a look at this kid.— Gil Brandt (@Gil_Brandt) March 13, 2015

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      Confession: I like Mannion. Good guy, good beaver, played hard, etc. If I could press a button and have him enjoy a great pro career, I’d do it.
      However, there is a part of me that thinks he epitomizes Rileyism, and thinks his success just boosts the false narrative.

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        Good kid. He took a beating the last couple years. I hope he makes a practice roster.

      • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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        I’m not conflicted at all about wanting him to be successful. No reason at all to not like or not root for the guy.

    • mckalk says:
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      Gil Brandt is a 100 years old, he thinks Sammy Baugh threw a nice jump pass.

      • Jack says:
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        Gil Brandt sounds like someone who would have covered someone named Sammy Baugh.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Dylan Wynn was a beast today at the Pro day

    @CoachBaldwinTD @OSUBeaversFB Dylan Wynn 44 rep benchpress at Oregon State pro day. Highest at NFL combine was 35!— Guy Houston (@guyshouston) March 13, 2015

  • progressivebeav progressivebeav says:
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    • Jack says:
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      Dude!!!

      At least I can lift as many reps as I wear for a number!!!!!!

    • WFO WFO says:
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      So who was that tall skinny kid that was taking snaps and rolling out and throwing on the run and shit? Looks pretty athletic. I feel like I recognize him from somewhere but I just can’t place it…

    • angry angry says:
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      Is Wynn allowed to use his chest to bounce the barbell like that? His back looked arched, too, rather than flat. Maybe these are reasons for the 44 reps.

      I was surprised to see Ward there. If Branden Oliver can make the NFL I suppose there is no reason Ward can’t. Anderson could be a good fullback. I think Ryan Murphy is the least like of that group, but who knows…we know have confirmed that these guys didn’t get the best coaching from Riley and crew. It’s now more obvious why Hekker became good later on.

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    Ice nails the runner at second to end the b3. No score after 3.
    Moore with 2 K’s, 2 hits. 30 strikes out of 48 pitches.

    Key stat=LOB…Beavs 4, Devils 1

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    70 minutes in, 0-0

    I thought this was baseball, not soccer

  • JD says:
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    Beavs look a little tentative at the plate. Plus the strike zone has been a little inconsistent.

  • Bill says:
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    Quite the pitcher’s duel going so far.

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    Wind blowing in, big park. We haven’t seen a lot of small ball from the Beavs this year, may need it to get the W tonight.

    Should say, to FINALLY get a W for Andrew tonight!

  • Bill says:
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    I like the ASU’s announcers, knowledgeable about ncaa baseball all over the country.

  • Bill says:
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    Textbook of how not to squeeze bunt by ASU. Double play out of bases loaded, 1 out situation.

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    1-2-3 DP to end the 7th, and Logan Ice looks like he does it everyday. Nice D by Moore on that play as well.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    ASU with the bonehead call of the season to call for a squeeze with the bases loaded and leads to a double play. ASU deserves to lose after that

  • Dansen says:
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    If either pitcher’s going to give, it looks like Moore might the one.

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      Yeah, Moore looks like he’s getting tired. Nobody is ready to go in the ‘pen either. Risky to stick with Moore and not have anyone ready to go at this stage

  • Dansen says:
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    Heimlich and Pomeroy combine to keep it scoreless going into the 9th.

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    Jansen in to run, hope he has learned his lesson from mistakes earlier in the season, I’d rather see Gretler as a pinch runner.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Looked like Ice got hosed on that strike 3 call

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Caleb Hamilton comes through in the clutch. 1-0 Beavers in the ninth

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Why is the last out so difficult?

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Beavers win 1-0 and have now won 11 in a row

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Beavs win 1-0 and Moore with another no decision

  • Corey says:
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    Hard to not like a good pitcher’s duel like that once in a while. Good win, and it takes some pressure off for the rest of the weekend.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Oregon is being hammered 8-0 by Cal. They’ve been outscored 20-5 the last 3 games.

  • wannabeav says:
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    huge win. I have always appreciated the “steely” nature of Pat’s teams. They don’t always win but they rarely beat themselves, and unlike the football team of late they always compete. Look sharp be sharp.

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      Always love how fiery and feisty they are. They never back down and always play their asses off whether things are going well or not

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    Nice to see Hamilton be the hero tonight; a strength of this squad is that there are several guys who will be “heros” more than once or twice this year.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    good win, always helps getting the first one. The wind blowing in made the offense difficult. Get the series tomorrow.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Forks were 0-6 with RISP.

    Moore throws 101 pitches. Pomeroy with the win and he threw 2 pitches.

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      Yeah, early on it looked like the Beavs were leaving so many guys stranded and then, late in the game it was the Forks who just couldn’t bring ’em around.
      In the end, Beavs still had more LOB than Forks.

      Pomeroy has the look of an intimidator to me, but not quite performing in a overpowering way just yet.

      • Bill says:
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        Pomeroy looked like was throwing mid 90s with his fastball

    • Jack says:
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      That’s just unfair.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Cal finishes off the quacks, 9-3. usc over wsu, 10-3. ucla shuts out the huskies, 2-0.

    • Jack says:
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      Who does whaaa?

      To who?

      Losers are on the schedule. They can be relevant later.

  • Dansen says:
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    OT

    Altman is so undeservedly fortunate to have Joseph Young on the team.

    • Jack says:
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      Yup.

      When it was all tied up, Altman was such an awesome coach that he willed Young to make that shot. That’s why he’s the COY… and deserves it. He moulded that kid from high school to that moment. He is responsible for everything that kid does.

      And it’s all good. That’s probably the last we hear from Joe Young… except for one game every other year here and there for the next four years.

      Oddsmakers… who is still in their respective league four years from now?
      1. Young
      2. Mariota
      3. LMJ the surefire home run HoF RB that will just blow the league to pieces.

      • Jack says:
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        Frt… my vote goes to Young. I think he’s worth at least six years of journeyman work. He is that good.

      • WFO WFO says:
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        You forgot Darron “we smoked it all” Thomas.

        • Jack says:
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          So did the world.

        • Jack says:
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          Come on you bunch of wusses.

          Call it now. Why waste time doing it later?

          Young is a shit prospect who will get you points when he tries.

          I almost want Nikegon to win tomorrow… just because it’s Zony… and Zony are the most foul-mouthed, shit-talking cheap-shit fuckers there are in the West. I can’t speak beyond the Rockies this year. But Zony is just a pile of hatred.

          To each their own.

          • mckalk says:
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            Why is that other teams always seem to fuck up against the Ducks? How do you not have your best defender hawking Mighty Joe Young all the way up the court? I guess it’s the fear of a cheap foul and then Young wins the game at the foul line? But to me that’s the pussy way to play, I’d rather force the officials to call a foul on a drive rather than let him hit a wide open three.

            Yeah, Quacks and Zona are the punk asses of the Pac-12, even more so than the Huskies this year. I hate games where I would like to see both teams lose. I’m losing patience waiting for Dana Altman to fail. I guess he’s already a failure as a human being, but I’m ready to see it as a coach also, just to complete the circle.

          • cj cj says:
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            I called it last Wednesday – hated it then and hate it now..

          • cj cj says:
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            actually this Wednesday – seems like just a long time ago

          • cj cj says:
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            I missed by 28, er 29 points on this one…thank goodness!

        • alex says:
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          That was Cliff Harris.

      • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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        Mariota will still be in the NFL in 4 years, easily. Gabbert, Ponder and Locker lasted 4 seasons. Even Gabbert is still on an NFL roster. Ponder is going to sign with someone. Locker just retired early, he could have signed somewhere.

        LaMicheal James won’t be in the NFL in 4 years. That would be a total of 8 years pro. He’s accumulated 193 total rushing yards in 4 seasons… Can’t see him staying on a roster for another 4 years as he ages.

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          Will he be in the NFL? Or Will he be like all the names you listed–a ghost with money? All of the names you gave have better arms than MM.

          If he had a better arm and more speed, I would give him the same future as another Heisman winner who now plays for the Washington We’reNotRacists.

  • angry angry says:
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    Surprising everyone?
    http://www.d1baseball.com/weekend-preview/weekend-preview-march-13-15/

    All that talk about experience trumping talent. Pshaw.

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      In baseball?

      See the ball. Hit the ball.

      Is there something more to that game?

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        Frt… my six year-old daughter told me today that my eight year-old son has trouble seeing anything clearly beyond six feet. My son is brilliant with colors and creativity. But I have zero pretense that he will be an athlete of any great consequence because vision is the ultimate factor in success.

        He will need specs. It will draw him away from sports. I accept this.

        He is pretty awesome as an artist. And I say this objectively. I’ve picked up a couple of his pieces and thought they were ad propaganda or such. What he does at 8 is equivalent to ad agencies with unlimited funds.

        I am a little jealous of him. But I see what he can do.

        And now my daughter tells me he doesn’t have my eyes. That sucks.

        Now I have to bring it up to him. It’s not a vanity thing or a pride thing or anything else. Well.. it might be a pride thing for him.

        I think I need to read him in on some Ben Franklin. I know Franklin’s concepts are all but lost on this current version of Merica. And I know that’s an understatement for the ages. But my son will know history before it is rewritten.

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          On the flip side, My daughter is going to be six feet tall and loose as a proverbial cannon… if her personality translates properly.

          I will not allow any of those shoulder-height set shots. So we’ll see if she becomes a player.

          Sorry… that shit doesn’t pass for hoops if I have any say. And, in this case, I have a say.

          • Jack says:
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            I know.

            The smart thing would be to train the girl to gain a ship and get school for free.

            I have no doubt she will get anything she wants. And it will probably be despite something or anything I think or say.

            But right now she runs to me and gives me big hugs and loves me. You’re not going to beat that.

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          You’re son may just be limited in the sports with a ball involved. More physical sports or endurance oriented sports could be his thing. I had a wonky eye that was fixed late, so my depth perception in the 3 to 8 foot range sucks. I can’t hit a ball with a bat or racquet if my life depended on it. Cycling, running, wrestling, or being in the trenches in football may be his thing.

          • Jack says:
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            He’ll never play football. It’s not like I want to hurt the boy.

            But you do have a point. He’s a decent soccer player and likes the sport. I’ll give him a couple years to figure out if he even likes amy particular sport. I figure fifth and sixth grade will be that time.

            But I look at the stuff he draws and colors, and except for spelling it all looks like professional marketing crap. Apparently he’s nearsighted.

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            My six year old is 4’6″ and weighs 75 pounds , we start flag this spring and if he likes it he’ll play tackle in the fall. We just moved to Tennessee so it is 2 hour practices 4 days per week plus games on Saturday for 6 year olds. I hope he likes it and takes after his uncle who played Oline for Rutgers.

      • cj cj says:
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        catch the ball

  • ochoco kid says:
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    In your well-thought comment, you forgot to mention they also pull the wings off of butterflies, and shove little old ladies into oncoming traffic.

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    D1 Baseball’s “Ten Thoughts” on Friday the 13th includes notes on the Beavs and, also, Cal’s win over the ucks (which they called a “pounding”).

    http://www.d1baseball.com/roundup/ten-thoughts-friday-march-13/

  • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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    Nothing important or insightful reported from Tokito (big surprise…). Still, this is the only news I’ve seen from the practice. Anyone else hear anything?

    The big buzz at scrimmage was two TD runs by freshman QB Seth Collins, who launched himself into end zone on one.— Mike Tokito (@mtokito) March 14, 2015

    No surprise, but Andersen said QB battle will go into fall. OSU now gets 2 weeks off for finals, spring break, before resuming practice.— Mike Tokito (@mtokito) March 14, 2015

    There were a couple minor scuffles during. Senior DE Jaswha James was livid after Collins' air-launch TD.— Mike Tokito (@mtokito) March 14, 2015

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    a friend saw this somewhere else and emailed it to his brother, who recited it to his sister, who texted it to me, so I figured I’d share it with you all. 😉

    In case it hasn’t been made clear, the offense will be unrecognizable to what we’ve been used to. McMaryion and Kempt are still getting reps. Appear 4th and 5th string respectively.

    Wow! These coaches get FIRED up! Defensive stand really brings the intensity.

    Collins with another impressive athletic play going airborne and getting flipped, but scoring, on a run up the middle.

    Practice is over and Brian will have a full report shortly. As Eric posted, the intensity is such a night and day difference. I didn’t think Del Rio looked great today. Mitchell’s arm looks solid and he led the team downfield for a QB drive. Collins has impressive athletic ability and made several playswith his legs.

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      tweet from coach yray with video of the Collins td. i cant view from my phone unfortunately

      Beavers Football (@OSUBeaversFB) tweeted at 2:09 PM on Sat, Mar 14, 2015:
      @_SethTheGreat with an athletic and acrobatic TD run Saturday in the Truax Center. #gobeavs https://t.co/3evIHGBX53
      (https://twitter.com/OSUBeaversFB/status/576852682461216768?s=03)

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        Shit! #17 (Nolan-Lewis per roster) goes with the old “throw your body at ’em” attempted tackle in that twitter/vine clip.
        I hope he got reamed for that. Had the angle pretty good and should have WRAPPED UP!
        Really disgusting, I thought we were done with that crap!

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          like Angry recently said, OOB, it’s going to take a whole season or more “to shake the Riley out of these guys.” It’s increasingly clear OSU was so poorly served by that crew the last half decade.

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            Old habits die hard.

            What is interesting is how they’re all taking backhanded jabs at Riley. Probably not even realizing it, but by their comments they are.

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            sure nuff. It’s unmistakable, and actually quite stark. almost like an indictment.

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    FROM JACK’s KIDS:

    “Pleez help us. You have no idea what it’s like living with him. We never get a minutes rest from the man that knows everything. If it wasn’t for the large amounts of time he spends everyday; “educating fools” and “setting people straight” on his computer we wouldn’t have a moments rest.

    We wish daddy had a place to go everyday like the others kids in schools daddies. But he says bosses are idiots and he wouldn’t work for one if you paid him. We may be wrong but isn’t the paying part a basic concept in work?

    Have to go.. quickly… we know he’s coming when the couch springs make noise.”

    Jack’s kids, Jackie and Jack Jr. from somewhere in Eugene

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      Oh… go back and actually get a degree from Nikegon.

      Pick on me all you want Bob. But leave family out of it unless you have something nice to say.

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        Hey! As far as I know I’m the only Bob on AB and although the post was funny it wasn’t me Jack. I’ll sign to my posts, which really aren’t that often. I had no idea you and I were feuding.WTH?

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          I wasn’t talking to you. I was talking to boner.

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            Ha!

            Boner Bob, the Duck troll who doesn’t even have a degree from Nikegon… and apparently thinks family (beyond the yo mama jokes) are fair game.

            He funny! Yup!

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            Bob the boner?

            That just sounds all sorts of wrong.

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            You Duck trolls need to relax. If you don’t like that I’m picking on your 70 year-old hero who sees fit to pick on children (growing up Catholic, I’d never heard of such a thing), then don’t troll here any more.

            Think about it Duckies. This is what someone who coordinates your booster events does for fun. You think I have no life? At least this is the only college related sports board where I participate a single word. If I truly had no life, I would troll one of your sites. I hear they’re truly intelligent and gloriously awash with free thought and individualism and all that.

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    scrimmage recap from Tokito. Sounds like Collins is making an impression and isnt afraid to show up the defense. probably not makingg many friends on the defensive side but i like that he’s got some attitude.

    CORVALLIS – Oregon State held a 100-play scrimmage Saturday, the Beavers’ first prolonged display of how the team will look under new coach Gary Andersen.The offense ran the ball well, the defense was solid in the red zone, and the communication, in OSU’s new no-huddle attack, was mostly good.But the real eye-opener was quarterback Seth Collins, who showed impressive athleticism, as well as freshman immaturity, on two touchdowns runs.On the first, Collins kept the ball, found a gap and zipped into the end zone for a nine-yard touchdown. He then spun the ball on the turf and bellowed to celebrate, prompting the officials working the scrimmage to throw their penalty flags.As Collins bellowed, senior tight end Kellen Clute yelled at him, “What the (expletive) are you doing?”That seemed mild compare to what happened later, when Collins again got loose for a score, this time on a 12-yard run which he ended by catapulting himself over a  defensive player to reach the end zone. Several defensive and offensive players  converged after the play, with several shoving each other. Defensive end Jaswha James was especially livid, prompting coach Gary Andersen to put his arm around the senior to calm him.”We’ve got to be able to put the quarterbacks in a situation of a real game, and that’s part of Seth’s game is his ability to be able to be athletic, and make those special plays, and it puts him at high risk, especially when he decides to helicopter his way into the end zone,” Andersen said. “It makes me a little bit nervous, but it shows his competitive nature.”Andersen’s policy is to not let true freshmen speak to reporters at spring practice, so it’s hard to know what Collins was thinking.”I like our ability to make plays with the quarterback, with his legs,” Andersen said “He’s also got to learn to take calculated risks as he grows and develops. But that youthful excitement showed today, that’s for sure.”Collins is in a three-way battle to be the Beavers’ starting quarterback, along with sophomore Luke Del Rio and redshirt freshman Nick Mitchell. All three are trying to adjust to Andersen’s no-huddle, spread offense, and all had up-and-down days Saturday.Collins completed five of 10 passes for 30 yards and ran eight times for 75 yards and two touchdowns. Del Rio was 5 for 13 for 63 yards and threw an interception. Mitchell was 4 for 12 for 23 yards and ran three times for 26 yards.Although Collins continues to draw plenty of attention for the spectacular nature of his plays, Andersen said there’s been no significant separation among the three, and he does not anticipate naming a starter until fall camp.”I think it’s way too early to sit back and say there was any separation,” he said. “We’ll go back and evaluate the film. There’s a lot of opportunity to grow. I thought all three of them did some good things at times.”Del Rio, the only quarterback who took any snaps last season, said he needs to execute the offense better and make better decisions. His interception, late in the scrimmage, came when he tried to force the ball to a covered receiver, and sophomore cornerback Dashon Hunt was able to break on the ball.”I got a little big greedy,” Del Rio said. “That was me. It was a really good play by Dashon, and I give him all the credit.”Mitchell, who often was asked to emulate opposing mobile quarterbacks on the scout team last season, said he is enjoying the chance to run a no-huddle spread.”It just gives us, as quarterbacks, the ability to make plays with our feet as well as throwing the ball,” he said. “I would say it’s more fun than anything.”Because the scrimmage was intrasquad, the success of one side meant the other didn’t fare well. Andersen said offensively, he like the way his team rushed the ball, with senior Storm Woods getting 92 yards on 11 carries.”I thought we ran the ball well, consistently, which was great to see,” Andersen said.The defense gave up some yards, but stiffened at the end of drives. “So red zone defense, I thought, was very good,” he said.But that meant the opposite for the offense. “We need to score touchdowns when we get down there at least 70 percent of the time,” Andersen said. “That is the goal.”Saturday’s session was the sixth in Oregon State’s first spring under Andersen. Under his predecessor, Mike Riley, the Beavers often went the early weeks of spring without contact, and certainly not with the quarterbacks getting hit. But Saturday’s scrimmage was completely live.”It’s definitely different,” Del Rio said. “When you have a game environment, you sort of see who’s going to play well in the game. It’s different when they can’t touch you, or it’s seven-on-seven. But when the bullets are live, guys are coming to crush you, you have to take it as if it is a game.”The Beavers will take the next two weeks off from practice, with finals next week, then spring break the following week, before reconvening for another three weeks of practice, leading up to the April 18 spring game.Because of a steady wind and rain, Saturday’s scrimmage was held in the Merritt Truax Indoor Center. Because of the limited room for spectators, several were turned away at the door, and Andersen began his media session to any fans who could not get in.”It’s hard for us to accommodate everybody in the indoor,” he said. “I wish we could.”

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      Cliff’s Notes: “Holy crap, we have an actual coach instead of a dad.”

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    Don’t you just love Del Rio’s comment: “when you have a game environment you sorta see who’s going to plan well in the game” etc. etc. Ya think? Riley was such a dumbo.

    Love the clip and paste without having to go to the o-live site too. THX BB!

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    *play well

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    Scrimmage video

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      You know what….if the defense doesn’t like Collin’s taunting them, then grow a pair and stop the fucking spread offense. No time like the present and no better way to finally learn how to do it then doing it live! “Rileyitis” is an insipid disease that unfortunately takes more than one week to cure, but over time the fog does lift.

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        It would be nice if Collins were more classy, though. Even if the guy is on a team I root for, I prefer classy play with little celebration/all business. The time to celebrate is after a meritorious accomplishment (e.g. pac-12 title, rose bowl, etc). A touchdown isn’t a good reason to celebrate or act like an ass. Barry Sanders was the gold standard, in that regard, and his classy play resonates with me to this day. Some of these idiots dancing after a 3 yard catch for a first down should probably watch his film after 90yard TD runs…simply handing the ball to the ref. When you’re great that’s how you act. When you need to show everyone you’re great you act like a fool. Collins looks like a fool. “Immaturity”? I guess. He better mature quickly.

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      it’s simply amazing, such a contrast, to hear Andersen talk with strategic coherence; e.g., what has been accomplished in from practice 1 to practice 5, etc. Riley was always “floating”, offering fugitive observations that meant little, like “finding an identity” rather than establishing one

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    Gabe Clark with an RBI double in the first to give the Beavers a 1-0 lead

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    Triple by Gillette and an RBI single by Ice makes it 2-0 Beavers in the second

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    RBI single by Hendrix makes it a 3-0 game. Donahue gets tagged out on a bad bounce that leads the third baseman right back to the bag after an overthrow by the right fielder. 3-0 Beavers after 1 1/2

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      Yeah, not a baserunning error just a good bounce for the forks.

      Jenkins might be a little aggressive in waving runners around.

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      Good description of the bounce. 3-0 Beavs.
      Now Devils lead off with a triple, game on.

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    If the boys take this series, i better see them in the top 25 or Baseball America needs a prompt bitch whipping. Doubt Pat Casey at your own risk.

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      I loved Pat Casey’s pre-game interview with Reese. Guy screws up yesterday, not playing today; also chided Jay about his invitation to criticize ASU coach’s decision to bunt late in yesterday’s game. Such an up-front guy. This is the kind of accountability I think we can expect from Andersen

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    Rasmussen has zero command tonight. Can’t locate the fastball. He’s lucky ASU doesn’t have at least 2 runs by now. Great plays in the outfield bailed him out in the first inning. In trouble in the second with runners on the corners and no outs

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    Triple, HBP, solid single and forks on the board and with two on and nobody out.

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    Casey comes out to the mound for a talk and then Rasmussen gets a fly out and a double play to limit the damage

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    NICE DP to end the inning and give Rasmussen more time to get into the swing of things.

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    Hamilton with a nice backhanded play and the throw was on a rope. Still 3-1 end of 4.

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    Through 4 Kellogg has 71 pitches and Rasmussen 40.

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    KJ strikes out looking with Morrison on 1b. His second strikeout tonight. Clark flies out.

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    Kellogg in the groove. First pitch strikes and a lot of 1-2 counts. Middle of 6. 3-1.

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    Rasmussen pitches out of a big jam

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    Rasmussen had Iberra 0-2 and gave up the hit, now Serven, at 0-2, hangs in till Ice gets him on the nubber.
    Rassmussen just isn’t putting these guys away. And, finally, he gets a clutch K to end the inning.
    On to the seventh, 3-1 good guys.

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    Hendrix got hosed there. Clearly safe.

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    Beavs screwed on the call. Should have corners with one out but Hendrix called out at first.

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    Gotta love the way Casey stands up for his guys. Even better when he is right, Hendrix safe for sure.
    One of encouraging things about the Beavs now is that all three men’s major sport coaches are visibly competitive. Visibly being a key….we don’t need no fatty to tell us how competitive the coach is!

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    Beavers have been fortunate with sticking with Rasmussen but it’s time to go to the ‘pen.

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    Isn’t that how it goes, get screwed and forks Leadoff with a double in the gap.

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    Pop up and squibber. With the LHB coming the Beavs go to the pen

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    Heimlich strands the runner at third. On to the 8th. 3-1

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    Heimlich was filthy. Was painting pitch after pitch. Peevyhouse had no chance

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    You might have to re-evaluate Gabe Clark

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      He’s hitting .222 in conference play. Why?
      Because of one hit?

      Last year he hit somewhere around .200 in conference play.

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    Harrison and Clark lead off the t8 with singles, gotta get some insurance here.

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    Damn. Beavs load the bases with one out and don’t get a run

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    ASU, ala, the Beavs last night, get out #2 at the plate and then finish the inning w/o giving up a run. Lost opportunity……..no Bueno.

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    could’ve used a run or two there. hate leaaving them loaded.

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    And Pomeroy gives up a leadoff double.

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    After a K, Pomeroy walks the tying run and gives up a single to make it 3-2

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    Hickey to the hill to preserve the win

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      Good start, comes back from 3-1 to get the K. Two down.

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    Hickey with a 3-2 K for out number 2

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    Leaving sacks juiced looms big as asu ties the game.

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    tied up. Damn should’ve sent Harrison on that single.

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      I think he would’ve been out by a mile on a good throw but the throw wasn’t very good so you never know

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    Love the mop dog commercial. I want him.

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    Beavs have done this to themselves. Had chances to increase the lead. Need to end the inning right now.

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    Reser in for Hickey

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    Heimlich should have pitched in the 8th. Pulling a guy who has been pitching well for no good reason is a classic Yeskie move

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    Reser does his job.

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    ucks, condoms, and bruins all lost tonight.

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    He was safe

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    Don’t like the steal attempt with Hendrix at bat

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    Harrison strikes out looking for the 3rd time tonight with Hendrix at first

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    Getting squeezed by the umps, the stolen base, called third strike all night home team has gotten the calls. They all have been close, not saying they are wrong, but it should be more even

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      Second sentence is spot on.

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      Not to mention Hendriix was called out at first and even the announcers thought he was safe

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    Feels like ASU has the advantage now. They got one of their best on the mound and OSU’s top relievers have already pitched.

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    Keystone cops drop the ball and now two on with one out. Tweedt on the hill

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    Had the game in their hands and now they’re going to give it away

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    Jansen comes in as a defensive replacement in LF. Doesn’t communicate well on a fly ball to shallow left and can’t make play as it bloops in.

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    Jansen makes a great catch against the wall on a ball that was crushed

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    Bases loaded as tweedt hits the batter

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    Game over. 4-3. A really bad loss

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      It’s a tough loss, not a bad loss. These teams look very even. It will take the team that does executes the little plays the best to win. Can win the series tomorrow. We didn’t get many breaks, but we also didn’t play consistent enough (Morrison’s error, Jansen fielding, etc) The bullpen didn’t pitch real well.

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        Seems like a bad loss to me, 3-zip after 1.5 innings.
        Now we look for a surprising pitching performance or a resurgent O, or both, to take this series. A tall order given the Beavs young staff; I think a win tomorrow depends on the O. About 6 runs probably does it tomorrow, may depend on how good the Devils #3 guy pitches.

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    Coaching staff and players blew this one. Bases loaded and 1 out and didn’t score. Yeskie really mismanaged the 8th inning with the arms he brought in. Heimlich is too good to be a lefty specialist. Running with no outs and Hendrix up was a mistake. Beavers also had their share of bad luck. The bad bounce that got Donahue in the 2nd cost them a run maybe more. Hendrix called out when clearly safe may have cost them a run too. Was a big game considering the Beavers starter tomorrow has been pretty underwhelming overall this season

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      Heimlich needs to either start or close.
      He had a rough start to the year, but he’s settled now.

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    Tough loss. Bullpen gave this one me away. Probably won’t be the last time we see that happen this year. Instead of going for the sweep tomorrow, it’s to win the series

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    Tough loss. Bullpen gave this one away. Probably won’t be the last time we see that happen this year. Instead of going for the sweep tomorrow, it’s to win the series

  • Whiskey Soaked Napkins Whiskey Soaked Napkins says:
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    On the bright side the ducks lose to Cal 6-2. 4 straight L’sfor them. But they’re a top 10 team. They can pitch but as usual can’t hit for shit

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      condoms and bruins lost as well, making this loss a true opportunity missed. Lots of ball left to play, but it is never too soon to make a move up in the standings.

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    Ucks basketball carrying on for the baseball team, getting their tailfeathers handed to them. Altman crying foul, lol.

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      Does anyone know…..if Young had been hit with a flagrant 2 for his bitch slap of the Zona player…would he have been suspended for the next game? Despite the less than manly slap, it was still intentional, I don’t know how he got off with just a 1 on that.

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        They were clearly frustrated. Arizona bitch slapped them around in all 3 meetings

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    Joseph Young will be suspended for several games… after the Big Dance… because they were asked by the EPD not to do anything lest they tip the kid off to the ongoing investigation.

    Seriously though… he should have been ejected and suspended by the Pac for the next game. That’s completely unsporting, uncalled for, uncouth and just Ducky.

    I thought Zony were the cheap-shot-shits going into this game. My mind has changed.

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      Does the league have any review capabilities after the fact? I would laugh out loud for a couple of days if slap happy Joe was suspended for their first round game. I guess because he’s such a pussy and slapped instead of punched he gets off clean?

      Yeah, Zona behaved like angels compared to the litte bitch Duckies. They really thought they had improved enough to compete with the upper echelon? Nice try.

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        Absolutely now way PAC-12 suspends Young. Scott wants his teams at full strength for the tournament run.

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          GP-2 gets that ridiculous flagrant 1 on a basketball play against CU, refs ignore a blatnat flagrant 2 on Joseph Young for his little tantrum. So goes life is the world of P-12 officiating. I think you make a good point about keeping teams at full strength. Even Walton and the other announcer mentioned flagrant 2 once and then shut up about it. Larry Scott probably sent over a message.

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          I don’t think it’s up to the Pac since only NCAA sanctioned post-season events remain. But it is clearly a rule that striking an opponent in any manner which constitutes “fighting” is grounds for immediate disqualification and suspension for the next game which is not an exhibition. A closed fist constitutes fighting immediately. That rule just says you can’t pretend to have accidentally closed your fist and struck someone anywhere on their person. Open-handed strikes are grounds for disqualification as well. The only reason Young wasn’t discoed is because the refs said they thought it was just a basketball play. Their hand was forced into the F1 call simply because the contact was above the head.

          We, and every non-Duck out there, know this is just a bullshit excuse to not do the right thing. But it’s not like it doesn’t happen with other teams and star players either.

          We’ll see how much of a run they get. Utah and Zony have balanced units. Nikegon is just like every other mid-major out there with a haphazard mix of talent led by one borderline NBA talent. They go as far as he goes.

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            Btw, that “basketball play” is the only reason the refs could call a Flagrant 1. It’s considered a Flagrant 2 if it’s in any way intentionally combative and there is contact above the head… unless a review shows that the contact was merely excessive and made during a normal play.

            And all that only applies if it’s a live ball. If it occurs during a dead ball it’s just a fight. There is no grey area there. The rule gives some judgment to the refs where the severity of contact can be lesser and, therefore, ruled a Flagrant 1. But that’s not in the case of a fight. That’s in the case of a live ball play which is being ruled excessive but not so excessive as to warrant disqualification.

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            I thought it was also interesting that as reviews go, it was relatively brief. Usually, the P-12 officials like to stretch these things out while they watch, debate and watch again.

    • angry angry says:
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      I knew Joseph Young was a punk just by looking at his body language and dumb facial expressions.
      What a loser.

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        They all seem to be a bunch of goofy punks, I liked that photo of Tinkle looking towards Brooks as he was celebrating on the Gill floor. You couldn’t see Tinkle’s face, but I’m sure he was thinking that this shit is going to end soon. Also, Altman looks to be about 3 or 4 years away from the Gene Keady school of bad comb overs.

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    In looking at the replay, it was clear that Young was pissed that a Zona player kind of slid into him while going for the loose ball, he then struck out in an angry attempt to “bitch whip” the closest player as some kind of misguided payback. You and I know that, Joseph Young knows that…who the hell knows what Dana Altman is thinking. Anyway, I really hope they don’t somehow get into the Sweet 16 again. It’s bad enought that Altman is the only coach in their history to get to the tournament three straight years.

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    Looks like nobody will be able to see the OSU-ASU game for about 3 innings. Softball game on the Pac-12 Networks and it’s only in the 4th inning

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    Hendrix with a leadoff single is stranded at 3b. Forks thrower was their Friday night guy last year.

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    Eckert with a 4 pitch walk to start the game. But is erased on the 4-6-3 DP. Another 4 pitch walk. He’s thrown 10 pitches and I think 9 called balls.

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    Compounds his troubles by throwing the pickoff attempt into RF and runner at 3b. Bad throw by Morrison and a run scores.

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    Feels like this is about to be a very long game for Oregon State

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    Now they let a short flyball drop. Both the last plays scored hits. Corners with two out. Groundout ends the inning but not a very crisp start for the Beavs.

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    Eckert with 3 walks in 1 2/3 so far

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    At least it sounds like he’s missing low

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    Donohue with a leadoff BB and Hendrix with his second single of the game. Runners at the corners.

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    FC at 2b scores the tying run

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    Morrison stranded at 3b, Harrison and Clark groundout tho Reece said that Clark ripped his down the 3b line. Clark’s left two at 3b already this game

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      Yeah, that was ball was hit hard, just on the ground right at the third baseman. Hendrix hit a chopper that found a hole. Just the way baseball goes sometimes

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    The baseball game is going to finish before the ridiculous softball game.

  • angry angry says:
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    For those who follow wrestling, do the Beavs have a chance to win a national championship?

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    Gillette looks horrible in LF. Even when he catches it he’s shaky.

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    KJ up with two on and another chance to do some damage.

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    sacks juiced as KJ HBP with nobody out and the reliever on the mound

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    Another chance for Clark.

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      And he is dominated.

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      it appears that our original analysis may be correct. Not so good vs P12 pitching.

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        Again, he had many at bats (150?+) vs Pac pitching last year, and hit around .200. So we have a large sample proving he can’t hit this level. He has always ganged up on slightly inferior pitching out of conference. Get him out of the 4 hole, Casey.

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          When I saw him at Goss this year he looked like a better hitter this year. Time will tell.

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          Shit, I would rather have Logan Ice DH today and put Clark on the bench. You can’t continually piss away opportunities in P-12 or it will catch up with you just like yesterday. I do like how the pitching has improved as the season has progressed.

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            Ice vs lefties, Cary vs righties. Cary had been having good swings, and I feel he can break out at some point. He has too good a swing to stay down forever.

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          chalk up another for our perspicacious leader: Clark disappears in Pac 12 play

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            Lol.

            I just looked up his stats last year. He actually hit .241 in conference, so I was wrong that he hit around .200. He only slugged .301, though. That is obviously atrocious for a #4 hitter.

            The Beavs could put out better lineups. I am not sure if it’s worth making a thread about, since nobody seems to care about baseball, and those who do usually think Casey knows best.

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    Clark down in the count 0-2 and fouls one off and fans on the off speed pitch

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    Then a DP and the Beavs get nothing out of a bases loaded nobody out situation.

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    Bottom of the order comes through, although Donohue grounds into a DP, and Beavs pick up 2. 4-2 good guys.

  • progressivebeav progressivebeav says:
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    Good read from Eggers. Like what Sitake is saying.
    http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/253745-123551-beavers-aim-to-be-a-hit-on-defense-under-new-coordinator-kalani-sitake

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      I like the staff attitude, I hope there’s not a lot of bitching and moaning from the fanbase when injuries happen, I think the plan is to build depth over time and accept injuries as a reality of the philosophy. Riley was so scared of losing key players that they were never ready for live action in September. Also,sounds like Erickson is still kicking himself for leaving Corvallis!

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        Agree, I think I wrote extensively way back (2009ish) that Riley pampered due to having no depth, and had no depth due to hating recruiting and/or plucking low hanging fruit. Viscous cycle.

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      Good old Dennis, still promoting Corvallis. Whose word is more reliable on the attractiveness of the town and the school, Dennis or Lindsay (or Goe, or the doofus from Pac-12 basketball)?

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    ucla takes the lead against the huskies, 4-3 at the end of 5. Cal and ucks scoreless in the 6th.

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    Get my man-crush, Heimlich, in there!

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    Damn you, Heimlich.
    That wasn’t even a bad pitch, tbh.

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    Heimlich gives up a BB and solid basehit and devils tie the game.

  • angry angry says:
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    Beavs beating themselves this entire series with errors and walks, specifically

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      Strike to ball ratio is not impressive. I’ve just been listening on the radio mostly. Are the pitchers trying to nip corners instead of challenging?

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    It was Eckert’s own doing. Mis-plays a comebacker and then walks the tying run. And that with 2 out.

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      I wouldn’t call that misplaying a come backer. That was a hard hit ball and a tough play. Heimlich’s pitch was also a good one in on the hands. The hitter just cleared and slapped it into CF. Gotta tip the hat to the hitter on that one b/c it wasn’t a fat pitch.

  • JD says:
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    The frustrating thing is that the reliever for ASU has been extremely hittable and the Beavs haven’t taken advantage of it.

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    OT- but UCLA just got a tourney bid, unbelievable. Get OSU a damn NIT bid now.

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    Beginning to look like b2b late inning disasters.

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    Beavs in meltdown mode.

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      They are 🙁 I see a young team that has crazy talent but isn’t quite ready for the big stage to put up a complete game and seal the deal. I think we’ll get better as the season goes on.

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    Game has been completely given away.

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    its official, Hickey hits the batter with the sacks juiced. 5-4 and still nobody out and bases loaded. Hickey gone.

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      I missed the start of the inning. How did the first two get on?

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        Single, throwing error on Heimlich on a sac bunt attempt.

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          Great.
          I thought Heimlich had turned the corner.

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    5-4 ASU, bases loaded, nobody out.

    This is why I wrote 2 of 3 would be a success. ASU is alawys tough, and the Beavs have been sloppy. 1 of 3 isn’t a complete disaster but meh, they could have theoretically swept with sound play.

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      Beaver athletics has kind of hit the doldrums lately. Beav women can’t beat Stanford at home. Men lose to Ducks with NIT on the line. Men’s baseball could make a statement and propel into the top 25 with a series win at ASU and choke away two games after late inning leads.

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        Well to be fair, the women had an incredible record, and the baseball team won 11 in a row. Those are hard to maintain forever. The men’s basketball situation was the worst of them.

        I think the baseball team will be okay from what I saw.

        The women’s hoops team can win a national championship or get knocked out in the first round. It all depends on 3s for them. Teams like that usually don’t fair well in the tournament, but they theoretically have an inside player. Hamblin just misses an awful lot of easy shots in there.

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          I surely recognize the very nice achievements, I was just speaking as a fan in the moment always wanting my teams to take it to the next level whenever they are in the mix and feeling a little blah about the last few things going on.

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          I agree, the baseball team will be okay. As said at the top, winning 2 of 3 would have been a success. Next weekend OTOH requires a sweep to be considered a success. Beavs have to take advantage of every opportunity vs lower tier teams and that is especially true now that they have a 1-2 conference record. 4-2 will look so much better than 3-3 and will keep the Beavs on Jim Wilson’s road to Omaha.

          As for WBB, I think we’ll know in the first 10 minutes how the gals are gonna do. In addition to hitting 3’s, their defense has to control the game. When the D is in full lock down mode even a few missed 3’s can’t keep the Beavs with beavs out of the W column.

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    OSU 3 errors, they have given up at least 6 walks…hit batter. Ouch.

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    ASU’s closer has a 0.00 ERA and 25k. Lol

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    OT… but Nikegon did get some disrespect with their seeding.

    But I have to wonder if it was intentional. On the one hand, a Nikegon team finally gets to go to Omaha. On the other, Altman has to coach someone other than Creighton… in Omaha. And they’re essentially saying that an Okie State who backs into the tourney is equal to Nikegon, who did finish with a flourish.

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      Do you know the “slapability” quotient of the Cowboys? Mighty Joe hopes to bitch whip another unsuspecting loose ball hustler and get away with a Flagrant 1.

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    crazy finish to big sky finale. notice one coach going all superfly snooka to get off the court. and no technical?

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Hard to argue that the better team didn’t win. The Beavs have a lot of upside though and this series gives some insight to their potential. Welcome to the P12 freshmen. Take it out on the Cougs next weekend.

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    NCAA: Hole is 8 in the West, Arizona 2 in West, Utah a 5 in the South, UCLA (wtf??) an 11 in the South and not even a play-in.

    NIT: Arizona St 5, Stanford 2.

    You guys got Kentucky or the field for the tourney?

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      Kentucky. Very few have even come close to beating them

  • follow me on Twitter @beavernation58 says:
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    Idk If this has been talked about, but beavers defined CBI invite… Personally I love this move. Feels like a mix of winners mentality where a CBI is shit and tinkle knows it, as well as our players are completely gassed

    • Whiskey Soaked Napkins Whiskey Soaked Napkins says:
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      Just announced a few minutes ago. Cal also declined CBI invite. Season is officially over

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        Just read where Colorado accepted a bid, but Askia Booker is declining to play.

    • angry angry says:
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      I think everyone is happy they declined that, right?

      • cj cj says:
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        Absolutely!

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        I think if we had a bench full of freshmen who needed more development, the CBI might be useful. We have no one on the bench and our starters have plateaued. Plus, a first round loss in the CBI (like last year) would do nothing for team confidence.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        Legit question here. Villanova, Kentucky and Wisconsin all were regular season and conference tournament champions. All 3 deserving of a number 1 seed. Duke, 2nd ACC regular season and loses in the semi finals of the ACC tournament. How in the fuck are they deserving of a number 1 seed? Arizona, Gonzaga and Virginia (especially Arizona as they were regular season and conference tournament champion, plus beat Gonzaga) all have a legitimate beef

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          Politics, baby!

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            Plus, it’s the fucking NCAA…when have they done ANYTHING right in the last, oh, …., forever?

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    Plus finals are this week and he can easily tell we as Beaver fans are satisfied. Midas well shut it down and start prepping for the next season. Plan the recruiting, go on a fishing/coast trip, spend time with the son. Go for that NCAA tourney next year. Only Arizona is clearly better than we are next year.

  • mckalk says:
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    It’s fine because they have no depth and are beat up, but I don’t think the 8k fans who watched the Beavs beat UTEP a few years back would call it shit. It depends on what you are trying to accomplish. I think because the team will be so different next year and there are no seniors there isn’t much point. If the team doesn’t achieve as much as hoped next year and they finish around 17 or 18 wins again then you get your ass into any tournament and work on things a la VCU and Shaka Smart did 4 of 5 years ago. A tournament is a tournament.

  • Victor Robbins says:
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    Aiight everyone it’s been real. Guess the season is over so time to turn the page and the next chapter.

    I’m really not sure what I’m going to do next season, but I really appreciate all the support and grace everyone here has extended to me.

    Thank you Whiskey Napkin, for always keeping it real, even when the truth hurts.

    Thank you McKalk, for whining constantly and being the consummate fan boy.

    Thank you Jack, for rambling on at great lengths about shit nobody cares about. Your interaction and replies to your own posts only cement the stereo typical “crazy guy in a basement” image.

    And thank you angry, for hosting the finest bunch of drifters, burn outs, and cast a ways you’ll find west of the Missippi!

    Always,

    #GoBeavs

    #blessed™

    • Jack says:
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      Thank you… you racist fucking Duck troll.

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        I thought he finally said something interesting…..

        • cj cj says:
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          …..and from the heart..

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            Interesting? Maybe, but certainly incorrect. I’d put this group of “drifters, burn outs, and cast a ways” up against any around; west OR east of the Big Muddy!

          • cj cj says:
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            yup

    • mckalk says:
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      This diatribe coming from someone who posts here pretending to be a 20 year old student athlete who in reality does have some serious issues that I truly hope are being worked through.

      Please tell me your taking your one note act and moving on?

      • Jack says:
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        Careful you don’t catch the wrath of his SAE brethren.

    • Dana Altman Dana Altman says:
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      don’t make me have my players come and gang rape you! It’s tourney time baaaaybeee! Sweep that shit under the rug! Rape? Don’t know anyone named rape.

  • angry angry says:
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    Can you guys compile all the player quotes about how the new coaches are different/better, or anything that takes a jab at Riley? I’d like to make a compilation of them, then send it off to the Oregonian. I’ve seen a lot of these types of quotes, but can’t seem to find them now that I’m looking.

    • dcbeav says:
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      Here are just a few I found digging around for 20 minutes.

      3/14/15: “It’s definitely different,” Del Rio said. “When you have a game environment, you sort of see who’s going to play well in the game. It’s different when they can’t touch you, or it’s seven-on-seven. But when the bullets are live, guys are coming to crush you, you have to take it as if it is a game.”

      3/10/15: “Under previous coach Mike Riley, the first 30 minutes or so of practice were primarily dedicated to special teams work. Then, those specialists were essentially dismissed.

      Under Andersen, the specialists are present for the entire practice and are asked to attempt kicks in between periods while surrounded by (sometimes heckling) teammates. Andersen called the work ‘as competitive as you can get in spring ball, (being asked to) kick it in front of your whole team. They’ve handled that well. It’s great to see them make some big kicks.'”

      3/7/15: “I love these coaches already, man. They make practice fun. Every day we come out here. And if we get a pick, they’re running with us to the end zone. They just have so much energy. It makes playing football fun. Sometimes guys are so business oriented that it takes the fun away from the game. These coaches know that it’s fun first, and that brings good things with it.” — cornerback Larry Scott

      3/6/15: “Ortiz impressed in fall camp last year and split reps with senior Tyler Anderson much of the season. Though he never took a carry, Ortiz emerged as a solid target for Sean Mannion. He recorded 12 catches for 90 yards in 2014.

      This year, those numbers should increase significantly. The junior called Andersen’s playbook ‘a little easier to learn’ than Riley’s, which has allowed him to start nearing game-day speed in the first week of spring practice.”

      2/10/15: “In all, the workout takes about an hour and 10 minutes to complete. But the tempo within that time frame is what Woods, a senior running back, cites as the biggest difference between this winter program and the ones under Riley’s staff.

      ‘It’s rigorous,’ Woods said. ‘It’s more like a cardio. We’re lifting heavy and lifting fast. With the runs, we’re competing. It’s way more competition with everything, as it should be … That’s how you get the best out of everybody, in my opinion.'”

      • angry angry says:
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        Those are good.
        Villamin and Songy had some good ones, too. Anyone have those?

    • hellobeavers says:
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      One thing I have noticed from following Beaver sports is that the player statements are meaningless. It seemed to be much more obvious with basketball under Craig Robinson. Every year the players talked about how energy levels and team work were way better than last year etc…

      These guys played poortly last year and they are taking the heat off themselves by blaming it on the coaching.

      • Jack says:
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        So you’re saying they took what they learned from the last coach and just went after the low hanging fruit?

        You could be right. This fall will tell us. If they play poorly again, then we will know it isn’t and wasn’t the coaching. Since they’ve played poorly for years on end, we can expect more of the same until new players take the spotlight.

      • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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        These player statements are meaningful because they are making a direct comparison to last year. They’re less meaningful when we try to reach by filling in the blanks when they say something about the present, and then we project what they might be saying about the past. For example, if a player says “practice is really intense”, we may reach by saying: well, that means it was less intense than a Riley practice. But it’s more clear when they say ‘practices with GA are more intense than Riley’s’.

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      I think you’re having trouble finding them because most of the quotes you’re looking for are behind the Rival paywall.

      In particular they got ahold of Songy one day and he rattled off many of them.

    • WFO WFO says:
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      I remember Storm saying “Everything is better” about the new staff/practice. Just hafta find it.

    • cj cj says:
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      Be careful here, angry. By compiling his shortcomings into one list, you might give MR all he needs to turn into a good coach and make the ‘huskers a winner.

      That is if he is willing to listen and change….

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    Doesn’t really matter what they say about this staff vs the old staff. I hope the players like this coach better because that’s who they have to play for. Bottom line is if they need to go out next year and win football games. If they don’t do that I really don’t give a F what their opinion is about which coaching staff is better. Talk is cheap – John Unitas

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    Beav’s with medium SOS based on last years results.
    http://www.fbschedules.com/2015/03/2015-college-football-strength-of-schedule-ncaa-method/

    • Jack says:
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      It won’t matter when we go 12-0 BABY!!!!

      … or whatever.

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    It will be about “us” after the second loss. This is going to be fun.
    http://journalstar.com/sports/huskers/sipple/steven-m-sipple-riley-s-it-s-not-about-us/article_f52b10d5-21ad-54b3-9bc9-c5256dbb00ba.html

    • scotty says:
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      “Sure Bo was a raving lunatic, but at least he never lost to [insert FCS school here] and [insert bottom-of-barrel conference foe here]!!!!”

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    Not a great week to be a beav. Softball got crapped on by the ducks, baseball blew the series, and basketball fizzled out.

    On the scrimmage, it’s good to see competition. I think Andersen is doing early scrimmages because he needs to see what he’s got early and wants to see separation between the players. In the following years, I’d think less live competitions since it’ll be his recruits and he’ll have a much better idea of their abilities.

    Even with Collins showing promise in the scrimmage, I still think it’s best he redshirt. If he likes to take off downfield, he needs to add weight to absorb the hits he will take. He doesn’t seem to shy away from contact as seen in his dive to the endzone. Another team will likely take a cheap shot there if they see him dive. I still project him to play at 200+. Ideally 215. He’s got the frame to add significant weight.

    Tinkle made the right call in turning down the CBI. There was nothing to gain. Likely would have seen a repeat of the colorado game. Next year, lots of people expecting NCAA. I think NIT is more likely.

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    Tumwater Dave on JoeBeav around 12:20 making the points we’ve put forth here. Schnell and Goe, with their belief that Corvallis could never attract anyone better than Riley got many into, “a deep well”. TDave befuddled at how that narrative ever got traction.
    At first he said he’d not mention names, relented when he got some slight kickback from Parker.

    A link on KEJO should become available, probably tomorrow.

    Now, C’mon Tumwater Dave, what is your screen name here?? You are one of us, aren’t you?

    • Bill says:
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      Who is Tumwater Dave? A caller? I don’t listen to any of the radio shows.

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        A guy from Tumwater named Dave.

      • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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        Tumwater Dave is a well-spoken regular (often more than once a week) caller to the JoeBeav radio show on 1240am out of Corvallis and hosted by Mike Parker. About a third of the program is lost on superfluous BS, the balance involves calls from listeners and often includes interviews with SA’s and coaches and other reps of the AD.
        T Dave apparently travels to nearly all away FB games and, IIRC is an avid baseball fan as well. He has reliably presented “A Critical view of Oregon State Athletics”, especially with respect to Mike Riley. His disdain for the way Schnell and Goe portrayed Corvallis as a dead end pretty much matches much of what has been opined here.
        The show runs from noon to 1:00 on KEJO am1240 which covers a very limited area; podcasts are available.

        • Bill says:
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          When did this guy appear? When this blog appeared?

          • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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            No idea when he showed up.
            You can download a podcast from the stations website (at no charge) and see if my description of the show is accurate. In the past, Parker has interviewed FB players right after practice. Often this was when other members of the media were doing the same thing. Sometimes he got more/different sound bites than seen on other outlets. I expect that sort of thing to be much more limited under Andersen…..not a bad idea IMHO.

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        He’s my hero and a hero to us all

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      There are two daves registered. I bet he is one of them.

  • Angry@angry says:
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    Do you really think the players are going to say anything other then how they like the new coaching staff? I like the new staff better myself, but having quotes from kids saying they like their new coach…. Duh they do. Have you ever seen a player competing for them quoted “oh I really wish my old coach was still here”

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      Yes.
      Sometimes it’s a matter of reading between the lines; maybe not always 100% accurate or easy, but doable.

      • Angry@angry says:
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        I’m willing to bet you can’t find a single quote from a player saying they wish the old coaching staff was still there.

        • Jack says:
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          Probably because those players have already left the team.

          And it’s not about wishing they were still here. It’s about the difference in the degrees of intensity and focus… that they are asked about by a previously lax media who sees and hears the difference themselves and just has to ask about it.

          Most of us could have told you this about Riley’s coaching style and how he runs practices. It’s not we live in a vacuum like the Polyannas do. It’s not, as they put it, a matter of being either a timid and/or calm Riley OR being a loud raging dumb-ass like Stoops was in Zony. Hell, those aren’t even the extremes. You’re going to hear about it more often now because it excites the kids. That in itself is a form of coaching maybe you haven’t seen. But forming group think for positive actions is an essential part of leading a specialized group.

          Now, is Andersen’s way of doing this more effective than Riley’s methods? We don’t know and won’t know until a couple years pass. Is it a more excitable method? It certainly is.

          • Angry@angry says:
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            Who’s left the team? Exactly… Read what I said… I think Anderson and Co. are more exciting and I like what they’re doing. But expecting any player to say something bad about the new staff, or wishing the old staff were still around is stupid.

          • Jack says:
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            Liking one or the other better is wholly your narrative. So you go with that.

            Being more focused or more exciting or more intense or whatever is the question that was asked here. And finding player statements that support that are what are being sought. I think it sort of silly that we try and find any that slam the last regime, even if it was the last regime who started it all by slamming these players (by inference) and Corvallis (as we all suspected and now find direct statements of such) in their NU interviews.

            You are correct. There is not a player (with any sense) who would dissent under an incoming coach… at least until it becomes apparent there is no future for that player under said new coach. But even then, you wouldn’t dissent until you were well established somewhere else for fear that burning bridges would light you up as a trouble-maker or a whiner.

            But it is interesting that both coaches and players are not taking all the new NU coaches’ talk about Corvallis and the team lying down.

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            Oh… I just noticed that “exactly” comes after your question. You were trying to be smarmy.

            I get it now.

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          I agree that it is highly unlikely we’ll see a player specifically saying he’d prefer the old staff was here. But, that wasn’t your first question. You asked about players saying “ANYTHING other then (sic) how they like the new coaching staff”.
          My point is that they are saying things “other than how they like the new…staff”. Those other things indicate a change in the approach now being taken. And, those changes are, without exception, presented by the players as POSITIVE.

  • Quatre Quatre says:
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    Just turned on the selection show for the Women’s Tourney. Best case scenario would be in the Spokane regional or anywhere in the bracket opposite from UCONN, who’s almost certain to win the title.

    • Jack says:
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      Wait… what does it matter if you already know who will win?

  • Quatre Quatre says:
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    Kentucky, expected 3/4 seed, gets a 2 seed. May not bode well for the Beavs.

    • Jack says:
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      Cal gets a 4, which means they host the sub-regional. That’s all we want is a 4 or less in the Spokane Region.

      I think we get a 4 or less seed, meaning we also host a sub-regional. I think this had a little to do with why we (and Cal?) declined the CBI.

      • Jack says:
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        They’re making the 5 seed announcements before the 4 seeds… while giving locations.

        Duh?

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          They’re also announcing 7 seeds with locations before they announce 2 seeds.

          I know this is how the brackets line up for visual effect, but it sort of takes the excitement out of it when you have yet to be announced but see a sub-regional will be played on your court.

          Of course… I think these seeds, like baseball, already have a pretty good idea that they will be hosting. So maybe the excitement is finding out what region you end up in.

      • Quatre Quatre says:
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        Cal and Stanford are both expected to be 4s and hosting. Probably had something to do with both schools declining CBI.

    • Jack says:
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      2 or 3 seed doesn’t matter. Regional does matter.

  • Quatre Quatre says:
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    Yes, most of the top 16 seeds were expected, it was more just what bracket you’d end up in. May have an unlikely school hosting, but it’d have to be someone like NC or Ohio State grabbing a surprise 4 seed.

  • Jack says:
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    Here we go…

    YES!

  • Jack says:
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    ASU a 3 in the Greensboro regional!

    We’re a 2 or 3 in the Spokane regional.

  • Quatre Quatre says:
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    Beavs in the Spokane bracket for sure. Now just 2 or 3 seed to be decided.

    • Jack says:
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      Doesn’t matter either way. 2 plays 3 in Spokane if they both make it there.

  • Quatre Quatre says:
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    George Washington gonna get screwed out of hosting. Sucks to play in the A-10 I guess.

  • Quatre Quatre says:
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    Just realized Beavs might end up as a 4. Don’t think Tenn or Duke have been announced.

  • Quatre Quatre says:
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    Definite 3 seed for the Beavs. They won’t get the 2 above Tenn.

  • Jack says:
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    Funny… Tinkle’s daughter plays for Zags. Think he’s gonna be at Gill this week?

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      yep. Potential 2nd round matchup at Gill

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