This season isn’t going as planned so far, but up next is a get well series. If it weren’t for the injuries, I’d say the Beavs would win the next 8 games. As it stands, who knows…but these are some soft and easy teams (that’s what she said).
Go Beavs.
Beavs have to have 90% wins over the next 12 games to pad win column and keep momentum until key players get healthy.
Somebody had to go shake the ju ju tree.
….context being that the next 12 opponents have either a losing record(Central Ark, Portland, WSU, Utah), or middling (Oregon).
“The Mammoth Terrace” is beginning to take shape… I can just imagine a $7+ beer and some football…hopefully they won’t all be night games and the offense will look coherent, running all over defenses…
http://webcam.oregonstate.edu/reser/
$9 beers at baseball. Hard to believe they’d be any less for a non-round ball game experience…
Is Eckert out for this series?
If his back isn’t sore, he wanted to play….outlook is positive.
That’s what she said.
Liar, I never said that.
Yes you did you little minx.
Re: Eckert, this may have been mentioned by Parker, but here is the story from the GT. Very Casey.
“We asked (Fehmel) to give us a start tonight, Eckert wanted to go and we just felt like with conference coming up on short rest on Thursday that we needed to sit him,” Casey said. “(Eckert) didn’t like it, but Bryce was big for us.”
“Today (Eckert) came in and said ‘I feel great, I feel perfect.’ And I said ‘perfect, you’re not going,’” Casey said.
In other PAC12 pitching news, Daulton Jefferies has missed two starts for the Bears due to sore calf. Didn’t matter much yesterday as the Bears whipped whoever they played on the strength of 21 hits.
NO CHARGE BONUS: How about those Gauchos from Angry’s ‘hood surprising the experts with a road win over College of Charleston?
Watching the Blue Jay game…It’s pretty amazing Darwin Barney has had a 10 year career as a .245 hitter with no power. Making 1 mil this year. Good job gaming the game, dude.
Teams like defenders in the middle infield.
Solid defense and a .245 average would make him one of the better Mariners in the last 10 years.
Haha, I was just thinking that. I’d love a SS to hit .245 for the Mariners. Haha.
Center Field camera on BNO stream today. Cool!
1-1 bottom of second.
4-2 Teeth!
5-2 beavs.. busting it wide open
To expand on what oneoldbeav alluded to above: “The mouth” moved his record to 2-3 on the year going 5 “quality” innings allowing 10 runs on 15 hits although only 9 runs were earned.
Hey BG, no comment on the gophers taking two from Michigan yesterday?
I was going to say it was rodents helping rodents. Beav’s win against the Goph’s helps da Beav’s RPI.
Gophers are now at #21 in the RPI. Happy for them. The Friday night starter is a kid i have known since he was five. He is also DH’ing and hitting over .400. Hopefully they can keep it rolling. Always good to beat Michigan.. There was a sequence in the 2nd game where the Michigan pitcher had one of those meltdowns that makes CBB so unpredictable. He threw 10 straight balls. Pitching coach comes out. Next pitch is a balk LOL. Two more balls. Next batter goes full count and then chases a pitch waaaaay out of the zone and Michigan escapes two straight inning with the bases loaded. Snow delay after the seventh.
The video feed from Michigan was done with play by play by students. They explained that had to leave for some reason after the prolonged delay. They neglected to turn the mike off so you got to hear some guy yelling out F bombs and every other profanity under the sun when he disagreed with the umps. Hilarious.
In line for a Bill Walton book signing. Line moving slowly. I can guess why :p
Still a lot of season left, but I noticed that the Quackies are taking an interesting path to Omaha so far. Looks like said pitcher with the big mouth and grand notions got absolutely shelled by Cal last night. Couldn’t be happening to a nicer team!
Let me fix that for you:
“Couldn’t be happening to a more deserving team”
Nah, their pitchers are so nice, they let their opponents light them up, despite being the Best Pitching Staff in the Nation. Very moving.
3-2 beavers 4th
Surprise, surprise, Angry’s pal Jake looking shakey all day gives up two in the 4th.
3-2 Beavs over the 13-15 Bears.
Casey doesn’t make errors, so Thompson is their best option.
Jake’s gone after 5.1. His line looks deceptively “not so bad” at 57/92 strikes, 3 hits, 3 BB’s, and 4 k’s.
I can never even start to relax when he is on the mound.
Church takes over throwin’ strikes but give up a 2 out double; escapes on a fly out after a visit by Casey.
4-2, on to the b6
Theres currently a coach in D3 that’s a hot coaching prospect. We should let Casey be an Administrator and hire this guy ASAP.
Quote where anyone said that or it didn’t happen.
i wank off while thinking about casey.
i a freakin clown man
A@A,
You are officially the most boring troll ever.
That is all.
Couldn’t care less about your opinion, Jack.
Angry I the stupid
You couldn’t care less about a lot of things, A@A. That’s obvious by your lack of fundamental knowledge in a shit ton of things.
Sure thing Bud
Finally got to meet Bill Walton. Positive man, but gives off an incredibly strange vibe. I decided to be different and asked him what his best dating tip is. He said “throw ‘er down!”
Read about 80 pages of the book standing in line. Interesting stuff.
Was the “strange vibe” rapey, cuz it sure sounds like it.
No, but he asked where I was from and I said Oregon State. I (awkwardly) said bad times down there huh? But I liked your commentary (Referring to the lost weekend.) He said nah, Wayne Tinkle’s got things going down in Corvallis. I said oh, I meant the lost weekend. He thanked me for coming, and I noticed I was the only person in a string of about 50 in a row he didn’t stand up to take a picture with LOL
Well done.
Throw ‘er down, indeed!
Andersen says defense ahead of the offense. As it should be.
tl;dr
[When asked about picking a starting QB, Andersen] said “it’s gonna be hard to really make a decision … until we have an offense that can help a quarterback, regardless of who it is.”
“Our receivers are having a heck of a time getting open, and they need to find a way to be able to get that done,” Andersen said. ” … We need to improve in that area if we expect any quarterback (to succeed).
Early enrollee Mason Moran had the best quarterback day statistically, going 9 of 16 for 105 yards and one touchdown.
[Trevon Bradford] was arguably the most impressive offensive playmaker out there Saturday
http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2016/04/gary_andersen_says_defense_def.html#incart_river_mobile_index
If you look at my rankings, I had Bradford as the 3rd best player in the class.
Steal if he can stay healthy and has a good mind.
i put a cucumber in my butt this morning. it smelled but i ate it for lunch anyway.
Hahahaha. Nice.
How sweet. Gerkin.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
coincidentally the same response to your phallusy
Back to baseball, Jake gets the win. 6-2, again.
Two double plays today vs 1 error (on Britton).
C-boy 3 hits, 2 for Madrigal and (finally) 2 for Grenier.
Brooms tomorrow!
Repeat of yesterday, 6-2 Beavs. Britton gets the save pitching the last 3 innings of scoreless ball, gives up only one hit. Donahue 3-5 with 2 RBI and Grenier 2-3 with 3 runs scored.
If anyone went to the spring scrimmage today, mind giving the rest of us your impressions? Gina did a great job, but it’s always great to have second opinions.
Moran best looking QB.
I had been wondering why Grenier had been relegated to the bottom of the lineup. Man he has been struggling in conference play. College turns out was the better choice for him. Had he been in pro ball, he may not get another chance to turn things around. Hopefully he’ll get things back on track and turn pro after his junior year.
Good point about Grenier’s choice. He has had some hard luck e’s but generally has been sharp at the hot corner.
The other “G-man” from whom I expect good things in the long run is Michael Gretler. He is still listed on the roster as an infielder but has been backing up Ice at C. Gretler, last season, showed high IQ and smart baserunning. He didn’t get many opportunities though, so small sample. This year the talent and depth in the infield has forced the move to C; hopefully that IQ thing will help him become another in the line of good players at that position.
The clown who runs this site, bashed my son. Now my boys gonna start for an SEC school that I think all you nice folks would admit to being better than the Beavs.
Let’s get Angry impeached this election year!
Florida can suck my sweaty balls.
About the only things that make it worth going there are the Keys and imagining it’s really like Piers Anthony’s Xanth.
Otherwise, it’s a sandbar. Why anyone would want to live inland on that sandbar is beyond me… I mean… except for someone like Osceola and his people going to ground for tactical reasons.
Ahem, Floriduh
Oh… and Jack Del Riocan speak and write English.
OT: As if there wasn’t enough praise for Corvallis as a college town already:
http://www.collegevaluesonline.com/features/best-small-college-towns-in-america/
Corvallis came in at #5, and ended up being the only PAC-12 school on the list!
Wait… by CVO Staff? What’s Corvallis’ airport?
I’ll still read it to bathe in its shallow waters.
sometimes I cry when I poo
too obvious…he’s not even that poignant
great line, btw
Fallacy
TTATT
Sorry… thought you were looking for a phallusy, and I didn’t want to go for the obvious of A@A being a dick thing… because he must hear/read that all day every day.
But I was incorrect and now require clarification of A@A’s retort.
stfu already.
please sir, don’t give in,
the dufe, his presence will wane,
why bother talking?
Beaver have Babe Ruth Ty Cobb Spuds McKenzie and mother fucking Rollie Fingers out there punching fags in the dick
I don’t know if Beaver is strong enough, Wally should be able to pull it off though.
By the way how’s that trip to Omaha coming along? Have they pryed the foot out of your #1 pitchers mouth yet?
You sir are a piece of shit! Shame on you for not pulling out or committing infanticide.
TO ALL ABs: IMPORTANT SECURITY WARNING!!
Please password protect all your devices. Unless they are properly protected they can be used by children. Carry on.
Heimlich with a good outing, so far. 7 full, 95 pitches, 3 hits, 7 k’s, 1 BB.
Beavs lead 4-0, on 2 hits, 7 BB’s, and 2 Bears E’s.
Why leave Luke in? T8 with a 7-0 lead and he has already thrown 95 pitches.
Because Pat Casey never makes mistakes.
Like not making Luke a starter at season’s beginning, and then not resting his arm. Genius moves.
I admit I was wrong.
Everyone makes mistakes.
I give Casey some slack because he is familiar with the personalities of his guys. He was firm with Eckert when he wanted to go vs UCA, he made the easy call when Rasmussen claimed he could go a few inning with his current injury. So, I think he will pull a guy or override their pleas when in makes sense to him (Casey).
I’ll grant that sometimes to build a kids mentality for the long run decisions must be made which seem out of line at the time.
Still, pushing Luke (or allowing) him to throw more pitches than he has ever thrown against this opponent with such a lead makes me shake my head.
GO BEAVS, GO PAT!
I’ve decided to quit the cucumber business.
graduating to cantaloupes?
Retum………hell it killed em.
Can someone me get a Kleenex?
Thanks guys!
I have been looking at ESPN, SI, etc. Can’t seem to find a good site for college baseball. The coverage is almost non-existent. Lots of team specific ones out there, but want something more focused on the national scene. Any ideas?
D1 baseball. Google that, gives all the scores, but it’s behind half an inning most of the time.
Thanks. Have this one already in my favorites!
Baseball America is probably the best.
Warrennolan is another decent site for score updates.
Angry and I went camping this weekend. If you thought Brokeback Mountain was exciting, you’ve never camped with Angry!!
I am terribly sorry for what I have done. I should have pulled out. Angry@angry’s mom and I are now going to go cry some more
Should I ban this troll at put it out of its misery?
The posts are more and more desperate.
Gawd!
He’s even sucky at desperation.
To the bone, I guess.
Atleast your site is gaining more free by the day huh?!
What’s desperate is you and your claims against Pat Casey, then trying to mute anyone who calls you out on it.
So why leave the pitcher in so long? Why run up the pitches? What good comes from doing that? You are on here constantly bitching about someone’s OPINION about coaching decisions. Why pissed and moan about it? bring up GOOD reasons why someone else’s opinion is incorrect. And not the same old, but….but….but, he won a championship……..yeah, 10 years ago, hasn’t done shit since.
not defending the ass clown but in 2013 the Beavs were one of the last 4 standing in Omaha. So there is that. But with the amount of pitchers needing Tommy John surgery lately, I for one am concerned. Lack of bullpen depth seems to be a consistent problem these last several years and only 1 or 2 reliable quality arms. Why? Casey seems to ride that horse for too long imo. I am not a fan of Yeskie and think OSU could do better for a pitching coach. Yeskie was not the pitching coach in 2006 and 2007.
You guys are right. Elliot Cary three WAY too much last year. Come on. You guys have to be better than that. Cary threw zero pitches and had tommy john last year. This tommy john stuff goes way beyond college ball. It’s throwing 120 pitches twice a week in little league. Throwing breaking balls when you’re 10 and your arm isn’t developed.
lol
He injured his arm in a three way? How many did he have?
The Cary injury not withstanding, it’s not concerning to you how many pitchers have been lost for the year to Tommy John surgery recently? Can you tell me some other college programs that have lost just as many quality pitchers?
Josh Osich
Jace Fry
Sam Tweedt
Drew Rasmussen
And those are off the top of my head. I’m sure there’s more
I also recall Dallas Buck’s elbow gave out in 2006 at the CWS and he had Tommy John surgery
Dallas had arm issues going back to when he was about 14. He was seriously overworked as a teenager before he stepped foot at OSU. When he wasn’t playing spring ball he was playing QB on Friday nights and then pitching fall ball on Sunday’s.
a@a, if you know that about Buck, the coaching staff should know it, too, and ease the workload. instead they had him throw a ton of innings and labeled him a “bulldog”.
i didn’t want to nitpick Casey for this type of stuff, because his biggest flaws are the bunt and lineup construction…but pitchers’ workloads are up there.
What I’m saying is he was overworked in his youth. Never had any procedures or injuries. Threw nasty sliders when he was 11. That’s a recipe for arm problems. The whole tommy John epidemic is across baseball, not just Corvallis. I can’t give names because I don’t follow the Ducks closely but I’m
Pretty sure a few of their big names have had arm problems as well.
“What I’m saying is he was overworked in his youth. Never had any procedures or injuries. Threw nasty sliders when he was 11.”
That verified or you talking out of your ass again? Provide source(s) that correlates this to be true.
First of all, pretty much nobody here provides sources.
My source is me, I personally know the situation.
A@A,
You do sound like you are speaking with authority on this instance. I’d like you to do so on other subjects. And part of that is sourcing opinions so that they don’t remain opinions. When you leave hearsay out there and then refuse to source it, it’s most likely that sourcing will prove your hearsay wrong.
But enough about that.
So maybe you have some info we can glean. Can you go back through the past decade and look at individual pitching staffs and generally break them down in your mind? I’d like to know if you can find a correlation between any or all contributing factors which precipitate injury.
The obvious answer is that a lack of proper rehab between stresses causes repetitive injury. But at what age does it mass? Did we have different methods when Spencer was here? Do kids who redshirt do better in longevity and development? Do frosh phenoms suffer more?
Is the MLB draft a contributing factor in that kids are putting the stresses of unnatural throwing motions and heavy workloads on themselves for the hope something more? Wouldn’t MLB scouts know that metric and tell kids to do the opposite?
It isn’t a problem Spencer can fix or Yeskie. The arms are going in the direction of Tommy John before they ever get to campus. It’s a little league, babe Ruth, fall ball, HS ball problem. Kids are overworked at a young age, causing the damage in many cases before they even graduate high school.
Yes. So what attributes do those able to make it to a next level have that most don’t? And is it inevitable that no rehab (the constant work of a NCAA program) exacerbates that. What I’m looking for is the variance between programs. Some have the same injury issues. Some don’t. Some are successful overall with wins. Some aren’t. If we draw a venn, where’s the sweet spot?
I don’t understand the constant seasons of a singular sport from an efficiency standpoint. If this is affecting both NCAA and MLB programs, why don’t they all band together and inform the baseball community overall on how to properly train and rehab so that kids aren’t doing this to themselves?
Stupid of Casey to have Luke throw over 100 pitches. Get some work for the pen.
Agreed. You had a 6 run lead against Central fucking Arkansas.
On top of that, this year (of all years) is the one where the offense seems most likely to be able to cover for weak pitching.
So, if you have the opportunity, like today, to put in a guy who has yet to prove himself (say, Pomeroy, Metz, Parnow, or Kelly) this was the time to do so. I believe those four are still active, get ’em some experience before another front line guy goes down and you have no choice. If they are so fragile now that being pulled after 1 or 2 batters is gonna hurt their development, are they ever gonna be ready to contribute?
Hell, UCA put in a couple guys who had very limited innings and ERA’s over 15!
At least Tommy Paul made an appearance, but on a day like today it sure seems like another guy or two could have been exposed to an actual game.
What is the story with Martinek? Pitched in one game and looked pretty good.
Casey has other arms he wants to blow out before he blows out Martinek’s.
Martinek already had Tommy John surgery in August 2014. That was between his senior year in HS and first year at OSU
OK. That makes sense LOL.
Tell GA that a good tip for pass defense against the Golden Gopher’s is play off the WR’s. When the ball deflects off their chest, they are in better position to intercept it.
I wish we had a reliable BP so that the starters would only have to throw 80-90 pitches a game but the fact is that we don’t and there’s no data that correlates TJ surgery with 100 pitch games. A quick look at today’s top games show: Miami 10-2 winners starting pitcher throws 97, A & M 10-2 winners SP 106 in 8.2, Tennessee 4-3 losers SP 111, Louisville 16-5 losers SP 87 in 3.1, VT 4-3 winners SP 109 in 7.0. If the starter doesn’t get in a jam and gets yanked the chances are pretty good that he’ll throw close to 100 pitches or more. The current MLB pitch count by age group is at the link and for 19-22 year olds it’s 120 pitches with 4 days rest.
http://m.mlb.com/pitchsmart/pitching-guidelines/
So… is there a difference in the rest regimen?
Yes, for those too lazy to click the link, e.g. if a 20 year old throws less than 30 he should be able to throw the next day whereas if he throws over 30 he needs at least a days rest according to the guidelines.
I’m not talking about the mean test. Is there a variance in rest and rehab regimens of college programs that confirms it is the contributing factor in arm injuries? Or is it the torque placed on undeveloped arms from throwing breaking balls? Or is it that kids are taught to incorrectly throw those (and other) pitches?
And why stop the nicely graphed recommendations at 76+? Are all pitches beyond that equal? The untrained eye would look at it and carry it out to five days rest for 91-105, six days for 106-120, etc. Except that we know not every pitch is equal at a certain point. When you get 90+, you start to put the same stress on your arm you would with five to ten pitches on a fresh arm.
So the arbitrary numbers on a scale also look disingenuous as anything scientific. I would think a logarithmic scale would be a better method.
Good observations/comments.
Cookie cutter/one-size-fits-all guidelines are suspect at best.
Not for cookies.
Namec is saying there is going to be a lot of talent visiting for the spring game. Anyone know who he is talking about?
Thank god, this shit was getting out of hand.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/15181015/ncaa-approves-three-year-moratorium-new-bowl-games
Getting?
True.
I actually agree with A@A on the fact that this Tommy John epidemic is baseball wide, roughly 25% of MLB pitchers have had the operation. I don’t think throwing 90 pitches vs. 105 pitches makes a ton of difference with 7 days rest coming up. Though I do think you got to get your bullpen some experience especially with a big lead against an inferior opponent. Say Heimlich is struggling against a good opponent, how are the middle relievers supposed to be ready against Cal or Zona when the coaching staff has shown they don’t trust the middle relievers against Central Arkansas?
10 pitches per game would be 150 extra pitches per year assuming a fairly normal workload of 15 games started. over a career that’s 600 pitches, excluding post-season. Andrew Moore threw 18 starts in 2014, so 10 extra pitches per game = 180 for the year. That’s almost 2 extra starts. Then throw on top of that post-season starts…
Just 10 pitches per game could be as many as 1,000 extra pitches in a career for a player on a team that makes the post-season.
Luke was a HSer last year. The guy should not be pushed.
One of the reasons some top pitching prospects forgo college is the possibility that the coach will burn them up. CBB coaches job is to win games. A Minor league managers job is to develop and protect their club’s investment in a young arm. If a team gets the reputation of over using guys, it becomes harder to get the really good prospects.
It’s almost as if we’ve talked about this already. Before we break out the 28 color glossy graphs with circles and arrows and a paragraph under each one, can we all just agree that we should get our six best pitchers and have them throw 20 pitches each… every start? That way we don’t have to worry about any rest.
Officer Obie, is that you?
You can get anything you want at Angry’s restaurant.
I enjoyed this exchange.
Agree on all points, and to me it’s more an “unwritten rule” that you won’t burn a guy up. It’s common decency. Take Andrew Moore…he could have been removed from a lot of games, but Casey had him go for the complete game. I remember many conversations here where we were all asking why Moore was still in the game…
I’d say common sense should prevail and a college coach should balance team wins with individuals’ innings. Maybe recruit an extra pitcher instead of bench player to absorb innings.
I agree you err on the side of caution… but if you listen to the leading experts they are saying that science hasn’t discovered some magic pitch count yet.
Yesterday it was crazy. 7-0 lead against a lower level opponent. Develope your bull pen and let them pitch in a game. Luke should have been on the bench after the 7th.
Yeah, that to me is the story. Not getting the BP some work and experience.
Could it be that since Heimlich is in the rotation now and the fact that he HADN’T thrown 100 pitches in his OSU career that Casey wanted to see if he could start the 8th having thrown 95 pitches and still be sharp and not tired? To me that’s more important than seeing Pomeroy or Paul on the mound.
Freakin quacks pull one out and win series against Cal — of course Cal’s Ace Jeffries sidelined for the series, easily another loss for the smucks if he pitches.
ju ju
Agree with you here Jack. No more shaking the ju ju tree for me.