One thing we can all agree on: Go Beavs!
May 27 (Thu) 6:00 PM Away Stanford Stanford, CA
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One thing we can all agree on: Go Beavs!
May 27 (Thu) 6:00 PM Away Stanford Stanford, CA
May 28 (Fri) 6:00 PM Away Stanford Stanford, CA
May 29 (Sat) 12:30 PM Away Stanford Stanford, CA
https://d1baseball.com/postseason/projected-field-of-64-may-27/
Beavs dropped to a 3 seed after being a 2 for nearly the entire year. Looks like they took a closer look
Stanford recently went 2-2 against Cal and lost to Pacific. They’re a good team, but we should be able to take at least 1 of 3 from them. If we can’t, then the nosedive is complete, and we don’t deserve the postseason.
I will say even if the committee takes a closer look at the Beavs, they have a pretty strong resume vs other bubble teams.
Took 2 of three from Gonzaga, swept Grand Canyon on the road, went on the road to UC Irvine and played close. All three are making it in to the tourney. Only real bad loss was to Portland.
While they didn’t beat the top teams in the conference, they didn’t lose to any of the teams below them.
And if Cal sneaks into the bracket, it would be hard to snub the Beavs.
OT: football kick off times announced:
“The Beavers kick off the season Sept. 4 at Purdue at 7 p.m. EDT, which is 4 p.m. in Oregon. FS1 will televise the Purdue-OSU game in West Lafayette, Indiana.
Oregon State’s Sept. 11 home opener at Reser Stadium against Hawaii has an 8 p.m. starting time, and is also televised by FS1.”
8 pm is terrible start time for a home opener.
So even when we play Hawaii at home, it’s absurdly late? What a terrible decision. EST Beavs get screwed again.
Not if they lose, then no one will have seen it.
It discourages in-person attendance, and for UH, it will feel like 4 or 5(?) pm….dumb. Do it at noon or 1, increase attendance, make UH feel like they just woke up. Not good for landing a tv spot I know but…winning non-cons and getting to 6+ wins us more important than televising a non-con that will have a small tv audience, isn’t it?
If you get to 6-0 you land much better tv spots. This is stupid.
If we’re worried about losing to Hawaii at home, we probably won’t be getting to 6 wins.
I’m more just annoyed that I have to stay up to midnight watching a freaking home game. Why are we catering to the away teams fans?
Because we’re pushovers?
Stinks of the body bag games we were so fond of
Haha. Remember when fans used to tell themselves playing Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State, et al was “our bowl game” and a great way to start a season? That lasted about two plays before reality set in.
I do remember that. I think I stopped liking those games after Cincinnati killed us when I was like 16. The long term effect of a loss is far more damaging to the pocket book than any benefit of a payoff.
That was the only game I’ve been to in person. What a disaster.
I was getting updates in an internet cafe in Italy. I was just waiting for Sammie to blow up and it didn’t work out.
Well, maybe there’s 30K in the stands…many probably leave early so they don’t get home at midnight or later, plus, for UH it’s prime time. OSU hasn’t done great defending run-and-shoot teams and has a questionable secondary.
This program hasn’t yet shown it can take any games for granted. Remember scoreless at UH in the second half resulting in a loss?
OSU is supposed to be the bigger conference/team, schedule to your advantage with a smaller non-con. Plus, schedule a home game so fans can attend and stay to provide a home field advantage.
It could wind up close, with the home field team’s fans listening on the radio on the drive home.
Even better reason to have it aired on FS7 or telemundo9 at a decent hour!
Stanford starts a RHP and Mitch leaves Casey on the bench.
As expected, Abel starts even on short rest.
Dukart cleanup, Fuchs and McDowell the only other left handed hitters.
And, as far as the discussion in last thread about the possibility of Mitch showing Dorman the door…….I seriously doubt it.
Abel good for 50-60 pitches?…….we’ll see, he’s got to get through the first inning or two in good shape and that’s not guaranteed.
Averaging 8 pitches an inning so far. That would get him through 6-7 innings.
Abel, 2 innings 17 pitches. Couple good swings in the first but nice to see him throwin’ strikes.
A bunt!
Mitch reading AB?
I believe Parker just said that the Beavs lead the PAC in SAC’s.
Is that correct?
EDIT/ADD: Beavs do lead the league in SAC’s with 33. Quacks, AZ, ASU, Cal, Tree all 18 or less.
That’s so weird. I’ve watched and listened more than ever this year and it seems.like they almost never bunt.
I was also strolling through the roster and most of our best bats are freshmen and sophomores. Squad could be really special.
Any idea if Abel sticks around for another year? He’s a RS-SO so he could stick around and have a good year next year. He’s still struggling with command and stamina which isn’t weird with Tommy John
I’m not nearly as smart as any pro scout, but can’t imagine that his performance this season has done him any good.
That said, pros do have minor leagues to give seasoning.
Agree, his struggles this year may come to an end with another off season of conditioning.
There’s no doubt that his stuff is absolutely nasty. He still lacks control and command which is totally normal. I could see him coming back and having a monster year with better run support.
I could not touch his off speed stuff with 100,000 attempts. I also suck at baseball.
Maybe Abel leaves thinking a better pitching coach in a minor league system can help him improve in those areas he struggled all year.
Just hope he doesn’t transfer to Arizona.
I hope he signs during the draft this year. He’s already had Tommy John surgery, is looking at a ~$500K signing bonus, and has already performed at the highest levels in college. I think he’ll progress quickly through the minors.
If he can get a 500k signing bonus he should jump man. Thats life changing money even if he never does anything else but go back to college and finish his degree.
Hitting 60 pitches, let’s see if he can keep it up
Pull him now
Just saw the box score. McDowell is still starting? Isn’t it obvious he can’t hit at this level yet?
Hes a lefty so its a matchup thing.
He can’t hit lefties or righties
Hey hes got a solid .174…
So is Casey (a lefty).
Pitch #70 goes OUT
and 71 is a single. For a guy that loves analytics idk how Dorman is missing this extremely obvious trend.
Stanford 1-0.
#71 results in a single.
Abel’s line after 6 innings: 77 pitches, 1 ER, 4 hits, ZERO HBP or WP, 2 BB, 5 K’s.
At this rate he’d have an ERA of 1.5………….except the trend by inning isn’t in his favor.
Run Support?……….not happening.
Ill give it to him though. He was pretty damn strong through 69 pitches minus the back to back walks.
That was a great at bat by Forrester. Hes really coming on at the right time.
That hit by Claunch was just silly. He almost went down on one knee haha
Abel comes out in the 7th. Probably a mistake.
Bottom of the order. Should be manageable.
Yeah he made them look bad. Really strong pitching.
Bottom of the order?…….remember 9 hole hitter got a 4 pitch BB in his first AB.
Anyway, 91 pitches through 7 innings for Abel.
Is Abel pitching outside more this game than normal this season?
Now has to be when you pull him. 2 on, no outs.
100 pitches and he is left in?
As usual, I don’t understand our pitching management. Abel has had a great game and may pull this inning out but holy cow man.
Well timed double play!
Heads up play by Ober, no chance for that DP if he tries to step on second himself.
Agreed, that was really good defense. Lets find the bats now guys.
Should’ve pulled out the sac bunt with no outs
Tried once but it fouled off. ugh
Thanks. I’m just watching the live stats.
Welp, great game from Abel. Bad game for the bats.
Beavs lose 1-0
Heck of a job by Abel, sad to see it end in an L.
Is it possible that Abel is coming around, at last?
He broke the HBP streak, so that’s something
Broke that streak a couple weeks ago, he had none vs ASU and AZ.
I think Abel deserves patience after his CWS performance. That should go down as one of the great Beaver student-athlete performances.
I think what coaches were saying the other day about getting after guys early, not being afraid of contact and trusting the D was directed a lot at Abel
Now let’s figure out a way to blame Mitch and Dorman for that one. Ready go!
Shoulda had Casey in the lineup instead of McDowell???
Seriously, tip your hat to a great pitching performance by Beck.
Tough loss against a great team. Get the next one.
Ouch, 2 games left to make a statement. Be nice to get at least 1 series vs the top teams…not a good look to drop every series of those in front if you’re wanting to make a case for the post season. At least Cal is losing to the Yucks. RPI is good but wins vs those teams, not so much.
Some of you may have already seen in the twitter feed that Thomas Sio has switched sides of the ball from OG to DT for the upcoming season. Wish they had done this last year to get him some experience before this season.
Also still appears we are sending several coaches after Jay Toia from USC, but I’m not very optimistic it will help.
Thats massive, hes massive. Everything I have seen in media about him is that the guy is super strong too. Even if it takes a couple years for him to get the position figured out it gives us a huge body right where we need it for the future.
I thought I recall people here saying to switch him to NT last year. Oh well… NT seems like a bit of a plug and play position.
And switching from OG he has been going up against the NT in practice so he should know a bit about the scheme already
He played both ways in high school so it’s not like he has to learn to tackle atleast. I think this is a good move for him and the team.
6’3 365 and strong.
https://twitter.com/BeaverFootball/status/1393749334684930048?s=19
He’s the bottom left in green.
Hope he’s got a decent burst off the snap. If he’s slow, he’ll take up space and should be difficult to push around. 365. Geezus.
365 and eye test doesn’t really look fat. If the guy has an ounce of aggression he should be effective at holding his spot as you said. If he can draw a double team at all then the LBs will have a nice time.
Take away his mouse and tell him the opposing QB hurt George…
Not saying he’s dumb, but geez he’s big, and if he needs some motivation…find it.
At least we have a plan on the current roster, which is better than hoping to land a transfer DT. Still think we need one, but this backup plan is okay.
What’s everyone’s feeling of Smith going into this year? He should have his guys, his depth, his philosophy, etc all in place now. I hope he is still aggressive but more calculated. He shouldn’t need to take the same risks to even the playing field as he has had to do in the past. Looking around at the conference though, I’m not too confident they are better than many teams. With the Purdue game, I’m looking forward to seeing how they measure up against an out of conference team that finished near the bottom of the Big 10.
Should be his best season.
I hope he is still aggressive but more calculated. He shouldn’t need to take the same risks to even the playing field as he has had to do in the past.
YES. This is key. Calculated risk rather than haphazard.
This is the Smith train stay on or jump off year for me. I really like how he has recruited and built the team. I have seen improvement every every year and strength and conditioning seems to be on point. The mess Anderson left behind is nearly gone. Our schedule is arguably the easiest we have had since 2013/2014.
Must See: Bowl game
Like to See: Bowl game win and 3-0 pre-season
High end dream: Win the north.
Exactly how I feel.
“Our schedule is arguably the easiest we have had since 2013/2014.”
@ Purdue
v Hawai’i
v Idaho
@ USC
v UW
@ WSU
v Utah
@ CAL
@ COL
v Stanford
v ASU
@ UO
Must See: Bowl game
Like to See: Bowl game win and 3-0 pre-season
High end dream: Win the north.
3-0 pre-season seems very likely.
I like to see a win AT USC for the first time in forever (confidence builder), breakthrough on Stanford finally. Another CW win should be possible with OSU’s QB rotation including Colleto. I think that tranfser RB is going to surprise the PAC a bit. They always get manhandled by UW, time for that to be competitive.
Wins against Wazzu and Utah will be huge confidence boosts. Haven’t beat either since 2013.
WTF why not just beat everybody?
I would be totally fine with that!
I just dont have much optimism for this season. We have more depth across the board, or at least at most positions. But while we have gained depth, our top level talent keeps going backwards. I cant think of any true “star” players on this roster except maybe Roberts and/or Speights.
QB is a little stronget this year. RB and WR still seem pretty average. OL is average. Coaching IQ is average. What are our strengths as a team that put us ahead of other Pac12 North teams?
@NB, I feel the same way with pecking order in the North. I think Grant is a solid piece and I’m hoping for a breakout year with the next Wright. Maybe offensive weapons (TE’s) would be an advantage but not one star player? Smith will always have to use a creative offense to offset the talent difference. I think it’s natural to think they will get better year after year but no guarantees. I mean they went 2-5 last year….Beav fans know there are always too many games that can go one way or the other.
Can we just get one really good blow out win IN CONFERENCE this year where we aren’t stressed out for 4 quarters?!
I think the lack of a star kinda is a strength. Our depth and experience are pretty high in almost every position due to having to do so much desperate plug and play over the years. I can’t think of a single player where an injury puts us in jeopardy except maybe Hayes. I remember people saying the same thing in the preseason before Peterson’s 3rd year at UW and plenty of stars emerged from that mess.
Well have to see but I do think our depth will make us very resilient over the course of a season.
Heard the over/under is 4.5 wins, surprised.
I’d take that bet.
Me too, let us know if you find an Oregon book. Not a fan of internet wagering.
Over or under?
I think our offense could and should be really good.
Defensively I think there are still a lot of question marks. Strong LB corps but a lot of questions on D-line and in the secondary. A lot of new players because of transfers, opt-outs, position changes…we really need some impact players emerge quickly.
Critical year for Tibs.
Time for talk to change to action; need to rank in the top third of the PAC in TFL/Sacks.
What is it about the offense that gives you optimism?
I feel like our RB and WR depth just doesnt have any top guys or playmakers. We have a whole bunch of solid role players, but no Hodgins or Jefferson type guy we can count on to make those gamebreaker type plays. Maybe more average depth will prove to be better than more top level players and less depth?
I think our O-line is a strength, for the first time in a long time. I’m hopeful that QB can be a strength too, though we’ll see.
At RB, Baylor was pretty good last year and between Fenwick and the younger players I think we should be in pretty good shape.
At WR, Beason played really well last year as a true freshman. I see this as a breakout year for him. Harrison barely played but made a splash and I see a good season there too. I’ve always liked Bradford as a solid player if not a star, and Tongue is intriguing. I guess there’s some projection there, but I feel like Beason at least is a pretty safe bet to make big strides with his first full offseason, first regular fall camp, etc.
TEs need to catch the freakin ball.
I think you’re right that Beason could be a breakout star this year. I have to see more from Baylor/Fenwick to feel comfortable with the RB position. Lowe could be a darkhorse there with his speed.
TEs to me are our biggest weapon. And even with that, it’s always a big “if” they can catch. But those 2 guys have shown enough that I think they’ll be tough to match up with
Fenwick, too…forgot about him. Between him and Madison we have a primary back. Lowe and Baylor 3rd and 4th down as pass catchers. I love the group.
Agree OL and QB should be good. WR should be very good. Beason and Harrison are both going to be beasts. Lindsey is still a wildcard who could come around. Bradford is very good. Overman and Musgrave have big upside. RB is a weird situation but we’ll have a full year of Lowe and Madison…think Madison will start and Lowe 3rd down back. Could be lethal with that combo.
Beason seems like a guy that will be solid, but what are his top-end skills? Hodgins was big and had incredible range, Cooks was fast and good at getting separation, etc.
Getting open and catching it. Has good speed. Nice compliment but we need Harrison to step up as #1.
Let’s not forget Collins is coming in. He could be a playmaker right away if his game can translate.
Will Newell get a shot this year? I haven’t heard much about him and I don’t think he played in the spring game.
He was making moves in spring. Fall is going to be VERY competitive. Baylor, Fenwick, Madison, Newell, Lowe and Collins can all probably make the three deeps on most P-12 teams. I am projecting with Collins from high school though.
Newell is fine. So big yet nimble…unique. I think the guys I mentioned are a bit better, but we’ll see.
Yep. We’re loaded.
I think the OL will definitely be a strength. All the starters return and they were excellent in run blocking and came along pass blocking. Give them another year together to get and it could make whoever’s the QB and RB is look good. They also have a couple solid backups if injuries hit.
TEs are definitely a strength with Quitoriano being maybe the best blocking TE in the league and Musgraves ability to stretch the field. Like it was said above they have to catch the ball but I think they will be better this year.
RB has a lot of weapons but no one that has proven to be “the guy”. I expect to see more of a committee approach at the position compared to last year. Hopefully we see Lowe used creatively as a change of pace guy. Dont really expect to see Collins as he is young and has a similar skillset as Lowe.
I agree with other people that Beason should take a step forward and hopefully become a playmaker. Harrison looked great in a small sample size. We know what we have in Bradford and Champ. Lindsay could be good if he catches the ball consistently. Add in Tongue and that’s 4 former 4 star players at the position.
If Gebbia can get healthy and take another step forward I think he’s the guy. Gulbranson looked good in the 1 drive he got. Man he can sling it. Nolan is serviceable but IDK if his arm is accurate enough. Vidlak will be good but I don’t think he plays unless there are significant injuries.
I’m hoping to see a team built around a solid OL and use 2 TEs to run the ball down the other teams throats.
Noticed on Nuke’s link to Sio that OSU Beaver Gloire Amanda Songolo Jr, wins MAC Herman Trophy for the best player in men’s college soccer:
https://twitter.com/BeaverMSoccer/status/1398066666085380098
Who knew?
I heard it from John Warren. Warren was also saying he thought the Beavers need one and maybe even 2 wins to get in the tourney.
D1 has us as the 3 seed in Zags region. We are not in the last 5 in or first 5 out….as of now.
I didn’t say I agreed or disagreed just his thoughts and he is close to the program. Then again maybe not a bad idea for the team to play like they need 2… don’t leave it up to chance
How many other in state schools can claim they’ve had the player of the year in 3 separate sports?
(Baker, Adley and now Gloire)
Am i forgetting anybody
Had to double check this-Gary Payton 1990 sports illustrated player of the year. Does that count? Also, June 6th is Gary Payton Day in Seattle.
Good call. Not the Naismith winner, but counts for something
Hi Guys, I don’t live in Oregon, but have been a big OSU baseball fan for several years. I like following your posts to see what the locals are thinking. I think one win against Stanford should get them into the tournament. A sweep by Stanford will make things questionable.
Our pitching does seems to be shaky at times, but my concern is the lack of offense and not having consistent hitters that can drive in runs.
Since I’m not in your local area, does your local papers follow OSU baseball and what’s the talk (if any) on prospects coming into the program that may make an impact on both pitching and hitting?
Thanks, Have a good day
There’s not much. There isn’t really local coverage for the beavs these days minus Twitter, gazette times and Oregon live.
Which position group do you think is the easiest/hardest to coach up in football? For example, is a three star WR much different than a 4 star? I’m curious which groups can you sort of take the leftovers with where as other spots you need good players there to have a chance. I feel like lb you need to start with highly recruited players but what do I know….maybe it’s a crap shoot all over the field.
On offense I would say O-Line or qb. Even super gifted players physically can easily fizzle If they don’t study and work fundamentals.
On defense it really depends on the system. Whatever position is set up to make the most reads on their responsibilities. Safety and MLB are pretty typical of that.
I’d add WR to the list. You see a lot of unheralded WR recruits have good college careers and highly ranked WR recruits fizzle out. There are plenty examples of both in Beaver history.
That’s probably the position where athleticism hides flaws in HS and gets you a higher recruiting service ranking than any other. Everyone dreams of turning the track star into a football star, but it’s less common than is generally assumed.
Lots of sprinters have very stiff hips which does not translate to route running at all
Stiff hips sink ships. Team mantra.
That’s what she said.
New non de plume for BG?
I’m pretty bullish on football this year. I don’t view the schedule as easy, though. Looks tough to me. Only one cupcake. Purdue and Hawaii could go either way. We’re not scheduling bloodbath games, but we’re still scheduling way too difficult an OOC schedule. Should be 3 cupcakes every year. No reason to play hero and not follow the SEC model.
Every game looks 50/50, and I’m thinking another year at QB makes a difference in those games. i.e. Gebbia/Nolan figures it out.
I am too for a lot of reasons. I think not only the QBs getting comfortable and figuring out but hopefully Smith can as well as the D. Bennett leaving is a huge blow as I thought him rotating with the transfer could make a big impact on the D. Hopefully they can get another transfer and/or Sio can contribute. The line was gelling well by the end of last year and could be dominant. Not very often do you return all 5 starters. This team is by far the best Smith has had from top to bottom. Having am established kicker could really help get a couple of close wins.
You think they can get 8 wins and a decent bowl game?
I think the RB transfer will surprise people, and RB by committee all the way to Collins provides depth and diversity. Gebbia is smart, and there’s athletes behind him. TEs should come around on catching the ball.
The coaching staff can scheme well. I think the Dline and secondary play are key to 7+ wins.
I definitely think they can, but will they I’m not sure. I don’t think there are any games on the schedule this year that they can’t win. Also probably only 1 guaranteed win tho.
I agree that D line and secondary play will determine how good they can be. Definitely need to stay healthy at those positions especially DT and S.
Lineup posted.
Casey hitting 9th, Fuchs and McDowell sit.
Boyd batting 7th, Dukart cleanup
Bats looking dead again
Bats? What are those? At times I feel like we need to be swinging those big ass red plastic bats.
2 on no outs and we get nothing? Still time but man, rough to squander that.
Hopefully this isn’t deja vu
Going to be interesting…
5 left on base with 4 hits.
this team is toast. can’t recover from the Zona debacle. Another Canham fail. The selection committee would do them a favor by ending this season here. 20 some straight innings without a run. 3 straight innings with a man in scoring position, can’t get the clutch hit.
Since UC Irvine they’ve been toast. RPI is good but you gotta win some of these series and make a showing. Getting blanked 2 games in a row can’t look good to the committee.
Seems like they tend to favor teams that finish strong rather than end with a whimper. Of course a little unfair for OSU with the back end being loaded.
Accidentally went to Angry Beans instead of Angry Beavs. Looks like I’m not missing much.
I guess we’re about to find out what the selection committee thinks of a 1-2 or 0-3 series.
Also, Mitch sux.
Since uc Irvine we’ve only won the loyola series and USC. Absolutely collapsed this 2nd half of the season. It’s a shame.
Yep. Canham is a bad coach. Made an awful hire for pitching coach, too. bad combination. terrible in-game management. team has no spark, fire, or resilience.
Honest question: what other prospects, truly, for the HC job were out there when Casey bagged it for good? I mean, it seems the only choice we had was between Yeskie and Canham. Back in the day, Notre Dame made a run at Casey. Who could OSU have made a run at?
Of course, given the OSU sports culture, my question, though not intended as one, inevitably becomes a merely rhetorical device. What does it say about a place that in 2003 hires Riley after he left them before the 99 season? Or take him back as an advisor after he leaves them a second time? Or effectively limiting the search for football coach the last time to Smith. (after all, neither Erickson nor Anderson were truly recruited for those jobs, they expressed an interest and OSU followed the path of least resistance and gave them their jobs. Worked out first time; second time, not so much.)
Or, to the present point, rather than finding the best college baseball coach available, reduces the process to the best coach available with an OSU history in their resume. Is it a lack of institutional confidence? always aiming for the home town discount? (hiring on the cheap.)
Andrew Checketts. Discount the quack history, at least he has had some success at the D1 level.
I brought that up before. OSU is not a coaching destination in general and even worse in baseball. Corvallis is the northern most location to win a national championship by like 10 degrees latitude or something. The weather sucks, the town is sleepy, facilities are middle of the road and the athletic department is perpetually mundane at best.
I don’t pretend to know what options are out there for baseball but I’m pretty sure Arizona schools have better ones.
Not sure Goss is considered middle of the road for facilities, at least not for Pac 12 teams
The interesting thing is PC wanted Mitch to be the coach and he LOVES Dorman.
PC will coach again imo…but he will NEVER work for Scott Barnes again. Oil & Water…
Baseball is exciting but on other news, I heard today that Rueck has a son that plays golf in high school in Corvallis. Anyone familiar with him? Supposedly he is pretty good, like shoots in the 60s but hasn’t been offered by the Beavs. Anyone got any insight on this? I think you do whatever makes Rueck happy.
I’ve seen Rueck post some info about his kid playing golf and yeah, seems like he’s pretty good. Don’t know much more than that.
Claunch is a way better hitter than Dukart. Is this a matter of overthinking and putting Dukart ahead of him because Stanford threw a RHP? I think you have to go with pure hitting ability over what the opponent is doing. Does Dukart have a high avg/obp vs RHP and Claunch a poor one to maybe justify this?
I know it didn’t really have an effect on the game, but it’s to me more proof he’s an over thinker.
If it’s the analytics they need some new data cause whatever they’re using hasn’t been effective.
Do you put the Beavs in the tourney? Having high RPI is good, but haven’t really won against those teams, much less take a series, and now getting shut out back to back, just not sure they deserve to be in tbh. Obviously would like them to go but team seems ready for the off-season. Still a firm believer in showing Dorman the door.
Dorman’s fate will reveal whether is Canham is a Riley clone or not. If it were Riley’s choice he’d keep a guy like Dorman, out of a greater loyalty to someone he hired (and therefore in effect loyalty to himself) than loyalty to the program he’s supposed to be stewarding.
That’s an interesting and good point. I have no doubt he’ll keep Dorman for at least another year but to me that’s a mistake.
Does Dorman hand-jive?
How many kidneys does Dormant have?
The beavs are in the top half of the conference in pitching and defense. Hitting is their problem. Dorman isn’t going anywhere…
And Cal wins vs Oregon. I believe that ties us in the PAC 12 standings. Lol. Wow. Think we’ll still have the overall better record but if Cal wins tomorrow and we lose, that puts us in 7th in the PAC? Tomorrow will be very telling. From a top 15 ranking early in season to potentially be 7th in the PAC? Incredible collapse.
Doesn’t that help Beavs RPI?
I think we still sneak in the tournament regardless of what happens tomorrow due to high RPI, and it helps that the Beavs won in 2018, which the committee tends to reward that. In addition, Pac 12 has really helped us this season with a high conference RPI. However, in the future we can’t hang on to the aid of making the tourney because of our title in 2018. (Similar to 2007 season, which I think we are not selected if we didn’t win the title in 2006.)
Would there be seasons where we wouldn’t make the tournament due to our collapse? Absolutely. If i did the research, there would be numerous seasons where this years team would not be selected.
Although, I would be disappointed if the Beavs are not selected on Monday for the tournament, I won’t be pointing fingers at the NCAA like I did in 2016. Hopefully the Beavs can win tomorrow.
Random Thoughts…..
How big is the 20-4 win vs Gonzaga (RPI 20) in February, and splitting w/ them in Corvallis to beat them 2 out of 3 times this season.
Although the Ducks swept us in conference play, another win that helps the Beavs was the 3-1 win in Corvallis.
Beavs have at least one win against tournament teams. (UCLA, Oregon, Zona, ASU, Gonzaga, Grand Canyon (most likely going to get WAC auto berth) Arizona, Gonzaga, UC Irvine) I might be forgetting someone.
On the flip side…
Lots of frustrating losses where we shot ourselves in the foot. In addition some were very costly, and we lost nearly all series against tournament teams above in frustrating fashion (except Gonzaga and Grand Canyon)
Go Beavs tomorrow, and help Beaver Nation feel a little more comfortable on selection Monday.
See to me the 1 wins vs those top teams isn’t a positive, it means we avoided the sweep. You gotta win a series or two. You could play the #1 team every game of the season to get a good RPI, but that doesn’t mean you’re a good team. Maybe baseball is different than basketball but usually you want to be trending up towards tourney time, not going .400 over the last half of the season. Hope they make it as it would be a good learning experience for them, but based on the play for the last 2 months, not sure this is a top 64 team.
That’s the big question. Who are the rest of the bubble teams and how do they compare?
D1 baseball lists these teams as the last 5 in,
60. Fairfield – 35-2 Only played conference only and a very weak schedule. (I think they are an auto qualifier). SOS 224
61. Indiana – 25-16, really depends on how good BIG10 baseball actually is. SOS 198
62. Georgia – 31-25 (13-17 conf) #40 RPI SOS 21
63. LSU – 32-22 (13-17 conf) #25 RPI SOS 31
64. Alabama – 31-24 (12-17 conf) RPI #29 SOS 23
Compare to Beavs,
Beavs – 33-22 (15-14 conf) RPI #28. SOS 11
Since baseball isn’t televised as much, the committee has to rely on the RPI and records much more than basketball. The conference record might be the deciding factor.
Fair points. Wonder how those bubble teams faired against those top teams. Any series wins, etc. Think I’d give the nod to a team that’s taken a series or 2 vs the one that hasn’t really. Sure we beat Gonzaga earlier in the season, not sure we’d pull that off now though. GCU scores didn’t seem that close but it took us to get to the 7th or 8th inning to do any scoring. Hope they make it, just don’t feel like a tourney team right now.
On paper, those GCU wins are huge.
Not sure how momentum plays into the decision making but as a whole body resume, it would seem that the Beavs have the advantage.
It’s a little interesting that the only 2 people USC DT transfer has followed back since entering the portal are an assistant coach from Miami and Sione Lolohea.
It doesn’t mean a whole lot, but it’s worth noting.
While he was committed to the Trojans for 2.5 years, he secretly was wanting to attend his dream school up in Corvallis. Get the gut bomb going NB!
He is leaving USC because of some clash with USC’s DL coach, Vic So’oto.
Before signing with USC, he had a few other schools in his top 5, but OSU was never in the top group.(Oregon, TCU, Baylor and UCLA)
Interestingly, Michigan is after him again. How many freaking DTs do they need?
No predictions at this point.
Still seems that OSUs primary focus is CB/S in the transfer portal. Quite a few more candidates available for those positions though
What are the odds on the Beavs going 0 for the weekend?
Do you mean runs or wins??
Both?
Tree starts a RHP and, still, Casey sits. Fuchs gets the start in LF despite a bum leg. Dukart in as DH.
And Canham says “enjoy the moment”…….hmmm.
In the PAC, Beavs rank #1 in ERA and #7 in BA; #2 in runs allowed and #6 in total runs scored. Now, I’m not saying Dorman deserves another season, but isn’t it fair to ask who the heck is the hitting coach now?
Windowman???
We scored two runs!!!!! It’s a miracle!
Someone with better baseball knowledge then me needs to explain that bunt down the third base line. Looks fair, third baseman swats it foul, foul ball!?!?!
Hey how about that little strategy there to get a run home on a double Steal. This is beavers baseball but I’d like to see it more.
Why is a former Stanford defensive lineman calling a baseball game? I’m not saying he doesn’t know the game but really that’s the best option?
Edit: it’s like they read my mind and are addressing it right now…
Teams switched uniforms today.
Totally fine with that. Of they can put this one away were def in the post season.
6-1 top of the 6th.
Hey angry, you watchin’ this?
Some decent ball today; double steal, cleanup hitter lays down a nice SAC to move runners to 2b&3b and eliminate possible DP.
Pfennings throwin’ K’s, 69 pitches through 5.
Just got home.
Should be (barely) enough to get in the post-season.
Mekler 1st to 3rd on Texas Leaguer to left center?
Smart? Hustle? Lucky?…….you call it.
Maybe good scouting; many CF’s would have made the play, had momentum in the right direction.
Another series of what if’s? Could Have won two games. How many series is that this year where the second game was in reach or maybe they even blew it.
Learn from it and go make some noise in the post season. They should have the pitching depth compared to other teams to hang in the double elimination for a bit. All comes down to the bats or as they learned today, generating runs one way or another. Commentator made a comment saying it’s as if Mitch said we aren’t leaving this stadium until we learn how to bunt.
We struggle against top pitchers but seem to be pretty good against bull pens. Most of our losses are game 1 and I would blame lack of run support over pitching for the majority.
who the heck is the hitting coach now?
Run support has been an issue for sure but until this series, we were giving up an avg of 6 runs per game starting with the UC Irvine series. ERA was padded early in the 1st half the season playing the easier schedule. Consistency hasn’t been there this season and we’ve folded like a card table vs the good teams over these last 2 months essentially. Hopefully they can put it together in the tourney. Think this win helps solidfy a spot.
Since it’s pretty much a done deal we will get into post season what are people’s expectations? My expectations every year is to make the post season so I’m pretty happy. What are you guys thinking?
I think it’s reasonable to expect to be in the tournament every year; to host a regional every other year; host a super regional (national seed) every third year; to make it to Omaha at least three times a decade, and win 1 or 2 of those.
That sounds super reasonable to me.
Per Parker, today Wong was coaching 1b and Ryan Gipson was at 3rd. It’s only one game, but is it significant?
And Nuc, I’m glad you are “pretty happy”! For me expectation is for the Beavs to host and have a record of playing smart, consistent ball; I’m not so much “happy” as “relieved”. Although with the pattern of this squad “relieved” may mean I’m a glutton for punishment!
Hosting and winning the pac is more of my hope with making it to world series is dream. If we don’t make the post season I’m mad and ready to fire someone. We have too much talent to not make the top 64.
Does that mean Darwin was in the dugout?
I’d expect post season play each year and to finish in the top 3 of the PAC. Considering we were top 15 team at a point this season and ended close to bubble status and around .400 during the last 2 months of the season…feels like a down year (and down partial year last year). Hopefully they can make some waves in the post season but I don’t have the confidence that I’ve had in years past. Hate to be negative but kind of felt like the 1st half the season was a pig with lip stick and then the lip stick wore off with UC Irvine.
Being in the top 15 just means they were overrated based on prestige.
Rueck with another nice commitment…I portend a return to the final 4…
Any news on staff replacements?
Good win but should have taken the series.
Outscored them 9-7 in the 3 games. Doesnt really matter when you score those 9 runs in one game.
Sorry, but I called this last month when they were all alone in first place at the turn in conference. I also called a regional flameout.
I stand by that statement unless they get sent to Spokane for a winnable regional.
I AM however rethinking my feeling about Dorman. OOB has me just wondering who the hitting coach is and WTF he’s doing.
I am fine with Canham for now. Just not sure he’s surrounded himself with the right guys to maintain the Ferrari……..All for now. Bitches and degenerates.
Nah, Dorman needs to go. Team ERA was padded by the weaker competition in the 1st half of season. Once we hit real competition we gave up an avg of 6 runs per game. Hard to win when you need 7 runs a game.
Looks to me like since UCLA the Beavs have averaged 4.5 runs/game and given up 5.25.
In that stretch the record is 6W/10L. I was surprised the #s were that close, points out lack of consistency, I suppose.
Yeah, stretch that out to UC Irvine and it’s like 6 runs given up. Although, I didn’t redo the math since the Stanford series so maybe it ticked down a bit. Definitely inconsistent on both sides of the ball. Can’t score in 2 straight games then get 9 in 1 game.
I got heavily downvoted when I pointed out at the start of the season that all our assistants were defense-first guys that were not exactly feared hitters at the college level.
If they’re going to insist on everyone being an ex-Beav, there are plenty of accomplished hitters they could bring in to coach.
What time and channel is the selection show?
https://www.ncaa.com/news/baseball/article/2021-05-27/2021-college-baseball-tournament-selection-show-time-how-watch
Final projections, both have Beavs as a #3 seed.
https://d1baseball.com/postseason/projected-field-of-64-may-30/
#3 in Gonzaga regional
https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/2021-ncaa-baseball-tournament-final-projected-field-of-64/
#3 in Miss St regional
Well, Gonzaga would be good considering we already took the series and beat them 20-4 in a game.
But that sets up expectations that the Beavs should win. I don’t think anyone should expect the Beavs to win any regional even if they have beaten them in the regular season. Zags are playing much better ball than the Beavs right now.
Zags aren’t playing the same competition as the beavs. I hope all this tough pitching the Beavs have faced will give them confidence.
Oregon State needs to stay close to home for a regional for once. Seems like too often OSU goes east and in sports like basketball Oregon has stayed closer to home. Beavs deserve the same every once in a while and 2021 should be the year we are a 3 seed in the Gonzaga Regional. Let some fans get to the Regional and enjoy things starting to return to more normal and spend a few of their hard earned dollars.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BowieBaysox/status/1399081056016474112
Oregon state has been mentioned to be one of the schools pushing hard for the true freshman USC DT Transfer.
That’s what nicebeav mentioned above. He said he’s following a university of Miami coach and lolohea. Whatever that’s worth.
Any update on the men’s golf team at Nationals?
I know end of Saturday they were in 18th
One of our guys is in 4th place.
Is he still? I thought I saw something about him dropping a bunch today.
“How about the day for
@BeaverBaseball
in this doubleheader?!
Adley Rutschman: 5-6, 2 HR, 7 RBI
Cadyn Grenier: 5-7, 2 HR, 7 RBI
They accounted for 14 of the 15 runs driven in.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/BowieBaysox/status/1399129198757912590
That’s uhhhh…crazy freaking impressive
On the opposite end, KJ Harrison went ofer. He plays for the Nationals AA affiliate. Kwan is also in AA in the same league but is hurt right now.
https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/regional-host-sites-for-2021-ncaa-baseball-tournament-announced/
Gonzaga will not host..so the Beavs will be sent pretty far away
LSU’s baseball coach retiring due to medical issues.
Now projected as a 3 seed at Florida with Gators, Miami and Jacksonville. Ha
https://d1baseball.com/postseason/2021-final-projected-field-of-64/
One of our punters transfered to Idaho? Didn’t know he was in the portal. Its Lightbourn, the transfer from Nebraska. Didn’t he kick one backwards when he played from the husker? Its going to be tough to do that in the Kibbie dome.
No problem, Smith want to be “aggressive”, won’t be punting.
That’s one way to solve the debate. Worked for big balls chip at Oregon.
He had already lost the starting job by the second half of the season. Kind of a non-event at this point. I feel bad for the guy, though. It sounded like he had the yips pretty bad at Nebraska, thought he’d gotten over it here, but clearly hadn’t.
Beavs going to TCU. Not a bad draw.
Dallas Baptist up first. McNeese St as the 4 seed.
Nice. Revenge time vs DB.
Paired with the “Columbia” regional. Could finally get the much anticipated Beavs vs Cocks matchup
Already tried that in Women’s Basketball. Cocks were too massive that day.
They didn’t announce it on the selection show but the Beavs are a #2 seed. That is very surprising.
Undeserving, but I’ll take it.
Or maybe it is deserving and you have no idea what you’re talking about.
We still have a national rep….
Here’s a weird typo from the official OSU site. I guess there really is ONLY one head baseball coach at Oregon State?
“Oregon State is in its second season with Mitch Canham as the Pat Casey Head Baseball Coach. The Beavers finished the 2021 regular season with a 34-22 overall record and 16-14 mark in Pac-12 play. OSU has recorded 10 consecutive winning records in conference play”.
Still working out the kinks with those bot sports writers
That one has tripped me up for awhile until I realized that they actually renamed the head coaching position at OSU to be the Pat Casey Head Baseball Coach. No joke. So there is actually no typo there, Mitch Canham is the Pat Casey Head Baseball Coach. I’ve always wondered if this is something that only OSU thought up, or if there are examples of this elsewhere.
Belated April Fool’s?
Nope, you can even see it if you look at the coaching staff on the OSU baseball roster page. Mitch Canham – Pat Casey Head Baseball Coach. I’ve always thought it super confusing.
Should be The Pat Casey Head Baseball Coach hosted by Mitch Canham and friends.
It’s an endowed position. Much like a faculty chair position.
https://today.oregonstate.edu/news/gift-creates-deanship-first-endowed-coach-oregon-state-university
No typo, details here:
https://www.osufoundation.org/s/359/foundation/index.aspx?sid=359&gid=34&sitebuilder=1&pgid=342&cid=17128&ecid=17128&crid=0&calpgid=5096&calcid=17127
Is it something in his contract? Some kind of royalty? Does he get some amount of money every time somebody says _at _asey Head Baseball Coach?
I guess for six million, you can name anything whatever the hell you want!
“The Gary Anderson Memorial Portable Toilet.”
If I win the lottery, as God is my witness I will attempt to make this happen.
Gary Andersen Cheerleader endowment
Happy Memorial Day to all the veterans and those that family members that have passed. Thanks for protecting my family and this country.
Thank you for remembering. A simple “welcome home” can mean a lot, believe me.
For those who have a moment, the story of a new statue in Boise is a good one. The artist shows much sensitivity as he explains the symbolism of his creation.
https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/military/article251753193.html
That one has tripped me up for awhile until I realized that they actually renamed the head coaching position at OSU to be the Pat Casey Head Baseball Coach. No joke. So there is actually no typo there, Mitch Canham is the Pat Casey Head Baseball Coach. I’ve always wondered if this is something that only OSU thought up, or if there are examples of this elsewhere.
Sorry for the double post.
Maybe we should rename all positions in all sports (players and coaches) after legendary Beavers. That could be fun.
“Starting at Adley Rutschman Catcher, Troy Claunch!”
“Starting at Gary Payton Guard, Jarod Lucas!”
You get the idea.
Coaches have been covered already:
https://www.thesportscol.com/2015/04/endowed-coaches-good-for-college-sports/
So John Holmes would have been great!
Go Johnny Wadd!
Thanks for the info
Hey Bill if you get a chance can you do a breakdown of our opponents in the regional this year? You’re always really good at baseball analysis, I can never find the info!
Dallas Baptist split 2 of 4 with Gonzaga (in Dallas) and beat Oklahoma (who finished under .500). The Oklahoma win looks kind of fluky because DBU had a really strong outing from a starter who has pretty pedestrian stats on the year. Gonzaga series was high scoring.
Not much in the way of quality wins other than those. They’ll basically have home field advantage, so that’s something to consider. Looks like they have a pretty dominant #1 starter and not much behind him.
Looking at pitching stats for McNeese and TCU, if we can get past DBU’s ace, I think we have decent odds of advancing. TCU is definitely an offense-first club. No one in the regional has our rotation depth.
FWIW:
RPI/SOS for teams in Fort Worth regional:
Texas Christian 4/5
Oregon State 22/15
Dallas Baptist 44/78
McNeese State 134/178
This is a great draw for the Beavs. First year in memory the selection committee gave p12 the respect it deserves. DBU scares me more than TCU. McNeese isn’t much of a threat. Regionals often come down to pitching depth and aces. DBU has some pitching depth and balance. TCU out scores you but I don’t think they’re a great team. Beavs have a chance if Abel steps up and bullpen throws strikes. Mulholland is a concern… TCU and DBU have the kind of hitters to exploit Jake. I think our offense will surprise against the pitchers we’ll be facing. This regional would be similar to playing ASU (TCU) Cal (DBU) and Utah (McNeese) in a regional so it sets up nicely for the Beavs. We play well against teams on our level or lower and struggle against top teams.
DBU is tricky to read because their SOS is so weak. Outside of Gonzaga, their best wins were bottom feeder P5 teams in Missouri and Oklahoma.
https://oregonstate.rivals.com/news/watch-oregon-state-baseball-talks-ncaa-tournament-selection
Most will agree that the post season places emphasis on pitching quality and depth. But they must be used properly.
This provides an opportunity for Dorman to show he’s figured it out. Regardless of run support, if there are obvious unexplainable mistakes made in pitching staff management it will hard to support giving him another season.
The Beavs got a decent draw but don’t get too giddy. Beavs will have to play much better than they have shown all year for multiple games. How likely is that? Not high.
First look at Dallas Baptist,
On RPI and SOS, the matchup seems favorable but it’s not. It’s going to be a very tough first game. DBU wins by out slugging the other team. Avg 8 runs per game. Beavs avg just under 6 per game. Most comparable matchup would be Arizona. Asking the Beavs to have good pitching and hitting in the same game is a lot. Usually it’s one or the other. DBU has a lot of pop in their lineup. If you can believe it, they hit 90 homeruns this year! That’s right 90! Again 90 home runs! Pitching wise, they aren’t that deep. Their #1 isn’t a 9 inning shutdown guy. The bullpen is their weak spot.
Beavs path to victory is the knock out the starter early and pile on a bunch of runs and then hold on for dear life. I’d say 10 runs wins it.
TCU is essentially same profile but in a much better conference. Hard to see the Beavs beating them twice unless TCU completely collapses. McNeese St – don’t even bother looking at them. If the Beavs lose to them, it’s best not to try to figure out why.
I’d give the Beavs a 20% chance of advancing due to the lack of a consistent offense.
20%, Right on.
It’s gonna take someone coming out of a slump……Armstrong, Forrester, Casey, maybe Ober.
Boyd and Dernedde have been pleasant surprises, it’s a lot to ask for them to lead the way.
I don’t know if it will take 10 runs, but it’ll surely take more than the Beavs have averaged over the last few weeks (4.5 runs/game since May 14).
So Dallas puts 9 on us? I’d take that bet.
Agree DBU is biggest concern. I’d say beating DBU is 50/50 depending on how Abel performs. Can’t give free passes. Home runs don’t hurt as bad with no one on base. That said, given the team’s performance to end the year, it’s hard to imagine a better draw and I’d put their chances to advance at 35%.
You ever notice how when a player transfers out of OSU, they usually find a new place to commit to pretty quickly? But when OSU picks up a transfer, they’ve been in the portal for some time, prior to committing?
Is that a good or bad thing?
Evan Bennett is already committed to Fresno State
It could be our coaches are actively helping them find a spot once they are certain they are serious about leaving. Supposedly Fleck has been doing this here at Minnesota. If they don’t find a spot quickly, they could end up without a seat at the table when the music stops.
They’re quickly finding a landing spot against lower competition. We’re getting P5 transfers, who probably have other P5 interest. There’s a difference there.
Should I start a new separate thread for June recruiting updates? Now that the NCAA has lifted their visit moratorium, things should be pretty busy.
speaking of, saw on 247 that TE Jack Velling is another visitor for this weekend’s group.
https://247sports.com/player/jack-velling-46103846/
I vote yes.
Me too
Speaking of, are any current team members on campus for these visits? I wasn’t sure if they took off after spring ball was over but maybe they have player hosts for visitors. Are classes online right now? The vibe could be really different if it’s just coaches and support staff.
New June Recruiting post up