03.Jan.2016 Oregon @ Oregon State

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Civil War hoops.

Sorry got it up late. I was out re-planting my Christmas tree!

Go Beavs.

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  • angry angry says:
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    31-14 Beavs and I hear it’s sold out…

  • scotty says:
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    Quacks are getting little brothered now

  • bleedorange says:
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    Is there a spot that i can stream online for free. Really ewant to try and watch. Thx

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    Olaf 5 RB’s and fair shooting………so far.

  • ace0099 says:
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    try this, so far it works wee for me

    http://zunox.hk/zxtv81.html

  • angry angry says:
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    These guys look like they improved a lot over the long break.

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    Please flunk your classes and re-enroll as a freshman, Gary II. I don’t think I’ll be able to take not having you on this team anymore.

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    This is good basketball. Save a few mistakes, a very sound performance so far. Love the defensive intensity and the passion for rebounding.

    Good outing by the upper class men.

    • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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      Olaf with one of his best all around efforts.

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    !!!!!!!! Finally caught up on the DVR. This is the Beaver basketball I remember. The whole team is contributing.

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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      Edit….except Malcom. Man is he in a slump.

      • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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        He’s played great on ball defense though. He’s still on the court for a reason.

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    I hate the ducks so much.

    So much.

  • scotty says:
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    Please don’t quack it, beavs!

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    I like how this team had handled the full and 3/4 court press today. Very methodical, no unforced errors.

    Will be nice to see them close it out. We need a few stops, then win out the free-throw game.

  • helmsley says:
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    my paranoia setting in – why are the announcers practically willing ducks to win?

  • ace0099 says:
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    Gill Coliseum attendance announced as sellout — 9,604

  • scotty says:
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    Tres free throws are money

  • angry angry says:
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    Tinkle is Larry Bird jr.

    • Timber! says:
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      mammoth game

    • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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      I saw growth today. After getting the charge call, he played more within himself…pulled up at the right time for the mid-range floater. He’s used to having his way with inferior athletes; finally adjusting to the level of play.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    I’m watching a stream and listening to the radio so I don’t know what was said when the TV showed Reid’s foot. Is this a new injury or has he reinjured his foot?

  • scotty says:
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    Quack athletics took it square in the nuts this weekend. Beautiful!

    All hail Tinkle

  • FatDog says:
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    I have been holding my breath not wanting to jinx things. I am loving this.
    Bad weekend for UofO. I love that too.

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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      Me too!,,,,,

    • angry angry says:
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      I really don’t care what happens to the Ducks, but I did watch the 4th Q last night and they looked awful. They looked bad at hoops today, too. But, they’re the Ducks and it will take a while, if ever, for this cycle to come to an end. Maybe when Phil dies (if he doesn’t leave them his entire estate).

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Fuck ya baby!

  • scotty says:
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    All the coaches and transfers money can buy translate into a double-digit loss. Tee hee πŸ™‚

  • scotty says:
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    Was that a wire to wire domination?

    • angry angry says:
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      Yes.

      Where’s that guy who said this is going to be a long season? Lolz

      Maybe he meant a deep tourney run.

  • just a Fan says:
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    Great last 24 hours !

    FTD….

  • scotty says:
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    From duck board:

    ‘Oregon’s lineup is introduced and not a single boo. Just “We want Lockie”‘

    Nice πŸ™‚ Although given our QBs this year they might have been serious

    • Boba says:
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      If only Lockie would be the starting QB in next year’s Civil War, but that’s a fanstasy I can’t entertain right now. I would bet money that it’s more likely that Lockie never sees another snap for the Ducks (even though it’s not really all his fault).

      • scotty says:
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        With all the hype Scott Frost got, wtf was he doing to help develop players?

        • Boba says:
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          Canzano has an editorial at O-Live asking that question, but directed at Helfrich since he is ultimately in charge. I guess Frost escaped in the nick of itme.

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    Anyone know thompsons # in the bowl coming up?

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    That was a great wire-to-wire win. Couldn’t have asked for anything more from the team. Even Olaf had less mistakes than usual.

    • cj cj says:
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      Olaf had 13 points, 8 rebounds, 1 TO, no fouls and played almost the entire game! Best game as a Beaver.

      • helmsley says:
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        Is he Rupp’s project? If so, Olaf seems to have caught on.

  • marcodg marcodg says:
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    It’s a great day to be a Beaver!

  • Boba says:
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    Man, what a great weekend. Duck women lose to put the undefeated bullshit to rest, Beav women win. Duck football has a historic collapse that has set Duck Nation on fire and to cap it off Beav men dominate from wire to wire with the freshmen looking as advertised. Is that a straight flush? I don’t play cards!

    • scotty says:
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      If the women also lost, I guess quack athletics took it square in the vulva, too. We must be egalitarian here.

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      I thought Helfrich was outta touch, but how about this from Altman (lamenting lack of senior leadership), “We didn’t have anybody getting the team ready, anybody that kept the guys going during the game, anybody that was encouraging them to turn it around,”
      http://kgw.stats.com/cbk/recap.asp?lg=CBK&g=201601030450

      • Boba says:
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        What the hell does he expect with how he chooses to assemble his program? He runs Ennis out there after playing 10 minutes at Western Oregon and he looks lost. I guess the irony was that his one and done transfer Boucher played the best, but apparently did not show leadership if you follow Altman’s logic? I think Altman is talking about internal leadership and not what comes from him?

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Just the kind of win I asked for…. keep building team confidence and hopefully fan interest and participation.

    Hopefully somebody made it to the game and can post some remarks?

    • thatguy says:
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      Sure.

      -The stadium was “sold out” but I think a lot of people couldn’t make it because of weather.
      -I guess most uck fans are still in Texas or something, because they had a horrible showing at our court. They couldn’t have had more than 200 fans tops there. Their student section got embarrassed.
      -The first half was beautiful, up until the last 6 minutes. We went cold, but fortunately our defense maintained itself. We created a lot off the transition game which is good.
      -Offensively we still look rough, which isn’t even cause for concern, but actually room for improvement in my eyes. They couldn’t get buckets for small stretches.
      -Tinkle played extremely well. He sunk his FTs and managed to work well at the rim. It’s really surprising since Boucher and Bell from uo are both elite shot blockers.
      -The rotations worked out well. It is fortunate that Langston played well and was aggressive enough to create opportunities.
      -There was a sequence where Stevie threw a bounce pass in stride to GPII and he dunked on Boucher, which should make SCtop10. Then Tres threw a lob to Drew which set the crowd on fire.
      -For the first time, Tinkle had the personnel to even be able to outcoach Altman. I think he outcoached him in the last game at Gill last year, but now we had the bodies to execute.

      I hope that a home win translates into having Gill rocking more often like that. Obviously we don’t have another rival that attracts what they do. Also, we have a ton of room for improvement. Eubanks could be even more aggressive near the rim, Stevie can shoot more, and Malcolm can attack more. Overall, I came away impressed with our team in spite of some things they did.

      • cj cj says:
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        I thought the Beavs played defense like they did last year tonight, certainly so in the first half.

      • scotty says:
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        Spoiled quack fan said they had way more talent than us. Nope. I know that’s hard for them to wrap their entitled heads around, though.

        • Boba says:
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          Now, if he said that the Ducks have way more transfers that would be an accurate statement.

  • thatguy says:
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    If they play like THAT consistently, they can challenge for anything they want. The ucks were completely stymied the entire game, the team rotated well, and generated offense when they needed it. It looked like poop a lot, but a 13 point win is nothing to scoff at against a team that was thought of as a conference contender.

    • Boba says:
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      Yes, and they nowhere near shot lights out. It was mostly rugged defense, rebounding and effort with a timely basket here and there to keep momentum.

  • FatDog says:
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    I liked the way they held on when duks made some runs drawing within 8.
    Confidence.

  • Boba says:
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    I don’t want to get ahead of myself, but can one imagine Tres Tinkle as a senior (hopefully he stays that long).

  • issaquahbeav says:
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    For those that were there, did the student section have any other good zingers besides the Lockie one?

    • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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      At least three TCU references:

      1. The student section led a “T-C-U” cheer (but only lasted for 15 seconds or so…)

      2. A fan who participated in one of the time-out foul shooting contests took off his sweatshirt to reveal a purple TCU t-shirt, which got an ovation.

      3. Early in the game the video board focused on a fan wearing an orange t-shirt that said “TCU is my second-favorite team” or something like that. That got laughs, too.

      • Boba says:
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        I was half paying attention, but I kind of thought the older guy with the beard wearing a nice TCU shirt was Drew Eubanks dad. I kind of remember a game where they showed his parents before and one of the P-12 announcers said something about them not really knowing much about basketball. My memory is bad, but that is what struck me.

    • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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      Near the end of the game…
      “T-C-U”

      My seats are in section 4, there was a large group behind us in green and piss, what an obnoxious group of dicks. I get routing for your team, but honestly those asshats were fucking annoying. At one point one of them yelled about where they were, I turned around and yelled “Alamo Bowl”.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        that was the Oregon shit crew, I mean pit crew. They tried to get a grass roots effort via twitterverse to get more duck fans to buy tix and show up. And they’re ALWAYS annoying asshats. Way less duck fans were there today than the civil war last March at Gill. It was announced as a sell out but I’m guessing maybe 8K at most. There were plenty of empty seats.

        As for the game, what was key imo was the Beavs controlled the tempo and forced the ducks to play their game. Ducks got very limited transition opportunities. Out rebounded them and won the turnover battle. The ducks helped out by shooting poorly, especially in the first half. The Beavs defense was much better in this game as well. Good to get the win but we have two more home games in the next 6 days to take care of. The Pac is deep this year. Winning at home is imperative. Go Beavs!

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    I was impressed with the defense and the rebounding. I thought maybe they lost a little agression late in the 2nd half, but other then that they were untop of things. I thought it was the first complete game from start to finish.

  • issaquahbeav says:
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    Only able to DVR 2nd half of game…who were the announcers? One of the guys sounded like Brock Huard.

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      the analyst was Casey Jacobsen who played at Stanford a few years ago

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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      Funny. I thought the same thing.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Did anyone else realize GP 2 was held scoreless in the first half? But his presence and steadiness running the offense was gold. When the ball isn’t going in the basket you can make an impact on the game in other ways. We’re going to miss him after this year is done

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      He did sit for a long stretch during the first half. He also got called for a couple of ticky tack fouls that were actually steals that would have lead to run outs.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    OT, but enjoy this photo of Lockie if ye must:

    http://www.pamplinmedia.com/pt/12-sports/287389-164383-ducks-blow-31-point-lead-lose-in-3-ots

    One of my favorite OSU-UO related photos was one of Matt Moore kindly handing a helmet back to a Duck player….after the victory, Moore was riding somebody’s shoulders through the crowd on Reser field…

  • Boba says:
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    A little off topic, but does anyone know why the Beavs only played 11 non-conference games, it looks like most teams played 13. They have go 11-7 in league play to get to 20 or get a couple in the conference tournament. I guess crappy teams lower the RPI, but 11-2 would have been nice going into league play.

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      Someone here recently mentioned that two scheduled games were cancelled when the opponent backed out.

      • Boba says:
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        That’s too bad, wasn’t much risk for a mid-major to play the Beavs back in the Robinson era….ask Texas Southern, Utah Valley St. or maybe even Howard? Now, they are likely to get hammered is that was the case.

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    OT: My parents watch the national news still, so I occassionally stop and see whatever they’re talking about. Lo and behold, what do I see but a national news network of all things covering the Duck defeat.

    http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/texas-christian-university-stages-incredible-comeback-win-alamo-36070997

    Don’t think this is the kind of press coverage the Ducks want.

  • Bill says:
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    Postgame thoughts –

    1. I know it said it was sold out but there were a LOT of empty chairbacks. The rest of the place looked full but the ones that are on TV the most were not. Kind of pathetic looking. Anyone know what the deal is there?

    2. Freshman are really starting to get into the flow of things now. Tinkle has really stepped up. I think Thompson is figuring out his role. Eubanks is still coming along. Forces it a little too much. The times he got blocked were his own fault by forcing it. If he just went straight up, he wouldn’t have been blocked.

    3. Great defensive effort and few turnovers.

    I believe the team used their experience vs Kansas against Oregon and now they know what it takes to beat a good team. Still think they’ll need 10 conference wins to get to the tourney.

    • cj cj says:
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      1. The weather was bad, cold & snowing with icy roads. My seats were empty because of that. I have to drive over the Cascades to get there from Central Oregon and gave it a try today but there was a lot of traffic, I guess from the Holidays, and it was going very slow. After making the first 20 miles, it had taken an hour and became apparent that I wouldn’t make the game so went home and watched on the tube.

      Bummer, would have loved to be there. I just hope it clears up some for Wednesday’s game…

      2. Yes

      3. +

    • Beavlover69 says:
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      1. As has been mentioned before, the seating area that the tv cameras show is the area where all the old geezer donors have seats given to them for all their years of donations which is great until none of them ever show up because they’re…well… old geezers.

      • ean says:
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        OSU needs an official ticket exchange so those seats fill up.

      • Bill says:
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        The athletic dept should find out if there are people who are consistently not coming and change their tickets to somewhere off screen. It’s hard to believe it’s a sellout when there are so many empties on TV.

        Aside from that, it was very loud on TV so that was nice. The old barn can really generate a lot of noise.

        • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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          Pretty dicey to change a ticket that’s been paid for, even if seldom used.

          Why not recognize that this is a marketing problem which deserves serious attention; put the resources (ie: a “super usher” with a brain and people skills) into a program where shortly after tip-off fans from other sections are invited (not over the PA, but by “super usher”) to take those seats. If the old geezers show up they can have their seats and the fans go back to GA. Takes a super usher who explains the possibility of being booted out of the good seats.
          EDIT: A tool for the super usher could be tickets marked “Provisional” which identify only the section which has vacant seats and explains the possibility of being booted if the old geezer shows up. And, hell, give the old geezer a coupon for a free cup of joe if he does eventually show up.

          That said, some of the crowd shots showed a packed Gill, it’s the background of play action which (constantly) shows the vacant seats.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            I think the super-usher just needs a “hotline” where anyone who knows their seats will be empty can gift them to the mom/dad/kids sitting in nosebleed. I’m sure it would be accepted by those seat-holders if communicated properly and run efficiently.

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            Worth a try. Even if many geezers forget to call.
            When super usher picks folks to upgrade, it does present an opportunity to put cute/photogenic/wholesome/excited fans on TV who represent OSU well.

            And give those geezers who do phone in 2 coupons for free joe!

          • Jack Jack says:
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            You’re not going to be able to choose on a snap judgment. That’s why I said kids. It should be apparent that the family is there for a special day/night and already having a good time. And I would want kids to get to experience moving down if we were to do that. It’s what I used to see a lot at MLB parks on dead days. It makes the experience special and builds future fans.

            The only downside now is that I can’t go sit where I want at different times during the game. Poor me.

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            “You’re not going to be able to choose on a snap judgment”
            Actually you can, that’s why I pointed out that resources and serious attention are required. Super-usher has to be vetted, educated, and properly paid. Maybe even given guidelines which give preference to families.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Isaac Seumalo will forego his senior year and enter NFL draft

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2016/01/isaac_seumalo_to_enter_nfl_dra.html

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      It’s probably best for him. There’s no value in him playing another year in a spread system. If he’s healthy and took care of school, he’s got nothing left for OSU besides just having fun. He’s going to be a very good NFL interior lineman.

    • ean says:
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      makes sense to get paid as soon as you can IMO.

    • Bill says:
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      Since the NFL advisory board now only gives a player a first or second round grade, he must have graded out pretty well.

      It makes sense for him to go now. He’s 22 so it makes sense to go financially since the pay won’t increase a whole lot if he stayed one more year and the risk of injury is pretty high.

      • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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        Afraid of the Gophers! Wuss.
        Totally makes sense. Hope he stays healthy and donates back to the football program. Too bad he got hurt. Is the transfer from BYU slated to play center next year?

        • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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          Kearsley is in the discussion there, but I don’t think we will know until the Fall. Hopefully, we will see who gets a shot in the Spring

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        Per the link,”he graded out as the second-best guard in the Pac-12…” Won’t there be plenty of O-linemen coming out of SEC and B1G? Doubt he’ll go in first round.

        I figured chances were 70/30 that he’d go, risking an injury was likely a deciding factor even though he probably would have had a better 2016 than his 2015.

  • marcodg marcodg says:
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    Payton poster at 1:30
    http://pac-12.com/videos/highlights-oregon-state-mens-basketball-tops-oregon-civil-war

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      At the risk of sounding whiny that highlight video made the ducks look like they were in it… what I watch was total domination by the Beavs the whole game. The closest the yucks ever got was 8 points.

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        The PTN has a vested interest in hyping all its teams and the thrill provided by watching them play. Everyone who saw it saw the same as you.

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        here is the highlight video from the Beaver Athletics

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          The replay on Drew’s dunk looks a little more tame. I thought in real time he got shoved underneath by Benson and that Bell stepped under him. It looks more like Bell was just trying to get out of the way. And he was more calm than I thought. It’s just that he was trying to get up quickly, not that he was being aggressive.

          It’s still mature that he didn’t go nuts or posture after that. Now I just think he’s a worker who does his business. That’s respected by the adults and will go a long way in his career in hoops.

          And yeah… Jacobson does sound like Brock Huard. Odd.

  • Jack Jack says:
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    So we should be in “others receiving votes” in both polls today. It was nice to see a full game of D with all that contact. I guess conference play has begun.

    There was almost a fight… well, a murder… on Drew’s alley-oop. But Tinks saw it and got in Drew’s head immediately. That was pretty cool. It was a pretty low rent move to undercut him, though.

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      Yeah, looks like we got 4 votes in the AP and 3 in the coaches poll. AP has us effectively #32 and ahead of Oregon, coaches poll would be #37 and behind Oregon. I’m actually surprised we got that many coaches poll votes, since they pretty clearly don’t watch west coast games before they vote.

      Also, Joe Lunardi released his ‘Bracketology’ update for the month. No mention of Oregon State.

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        He is giving a lot of love to the PAC12 though, 6 teams in and 2 are in his first 4 out.

        I’m thinking there might be 7 bids out there depending on the smaller conferences.

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        I don’t worry about Lunardi until late February unless we’re a top 20 team and jockeying for a 4 seed or better. This is going to be a wild conference this year. I wouldn’t want to play anyone on the road (except maybe UCLA right now). And some of the frosh at Cal and UW are waking up. I think they rely too much on their youth to get them through, though. A month from now will be when the more experienced teams start making runs.

        It’s really nice to see our balance. Now we can see why everyone and their grandmas were saying little Tinks was the most college-ready coming in. Altman thought he could key on GP2 then watch us fold. That did not happen. He made some weird assignment calls on D that likely cost them any chance of even getting in the game, GP2 or no GP2. And our frosh took a ton of contact they’ve only seen against the better teams this year. I think the block scheduling helped get them ready for the grind ahead.

        I just hope for consistency. That stinker against Valpo is still stuck in the back of my mind.

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          I understand your concern with Valpo. But they are #2 in the nation in adjusted defensive efficiency per Kenpom, so it makes sense that they gave us fits when we were still trying to jell. I think our offense is MUCH better since then and can only grow, and our defense is starting to come together too. It’s taken time, but time I expected.

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            It hasn’t taken that much time. 12 games is nothing.

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      And what the fuck was the ref looking at, he was in beautiful postion to call the foul maybe kick the Duck out of the game for undercutting. Drew looked at the ref and then looked away like the ref said “you’re not getting that call kid”. What dangerous bullshit.

      And also when Drew was blocked in the first half, I didn’t know that the shot blocker can crash into you with his lower body and knock a player off balance before blocking the shot and then get praise from the blind announcers!

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        He kept it together. That was the important part. He’s going to get mauled in conference play down low. That’s where poise comes in. You’re not going to get half the calls you think you should get, and working through that is what playing on this level is all about. He responded very well for someone who has only been playing four years.

        The undercut was funny in a way… since he was able to catch himself and not get killed. He started to move toward the guy, and it looked like he was going to squish him. Then he looked at the ref and saw no call. Then he raised his hand and started to yell something, and the whole crowd right on the court went silent for a second. Then he turned around and saw Tinks giving him the “you better not do it” death stare and just shut up and ran over to the bench.

        That was a very mature moment that could have turned a great momentum play into something bad for our side.

        And then he went down and disrupted their called play for an alley-oop over him just enough to make them miss.

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          That was a very mature moment that could have turned a great momentum play into something bad for our side.

          Spot on, Jack. Great points.

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            Except that a sequence that looked more serious and in slo-mo looks a lot different from replay. I thought he got pushed, but it looks like all the contact was his own fault.

            That makes me feel better.

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          No doubt Eubanks handled it well, but the bigger question is the P-12 officiating again. How do you see that and not do anything? I guess if Tinks keeps getting calls, it works out overall, but at some point Eubanks deserves a little respect for his hustle.

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            He’ll get that respect. Refs remember moments like that and reward him down the road with “the benefit of the doubt” calls because he takes that beating and doesn’t make it all about him and the refs.

            He probably shouldn’t have swung on the rim either. It would have looked more impressive if he just landed on two feet like a superhero. If cheese doodle wants to come chest bump him while he’s standing there, he doesn’t risk injury.

            Tinks gets calls because he knows how to put people on his hip and make them chase the ball over his body. If Drew wants to score double digits consistently, he needs to learn how to get to the line and make those free tosses.

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        the announcers were disgusting – they did their gossiping when Beavs had the ball and could barely disguise their glee when ducks were going down the floor to what they (the announcers) supposed was going to be something spectacular. I haven’t checked, but I hope FS1 doesn’t do the Stanford game especially with one of them a furd grad.

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          Jinxed.
          Turns out FS1 does two more games: at furd and at SC.

          At least in those games we won’t have to hear them refer to Beavs as “little brother” as they did Sunday.

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            Is CR still an ESPN analyst………that would be a trip to have him do a Beaver game, although I’m pretty sure it will never happen.

  • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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    So when are they officially announcing our new DC?

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      I think it was Eggers who tweeted it would be probably mid-week, definitely before the end of the week.

      • Boba says:
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        Are we sure Don Pellum will be a good fit?

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          It sure doesn’t sound like he’s going to stay where he’s at as of today. But he’s been in Eugene so long, most fans sound like they would like to keep him as an assistant. I think he has about $800k and two years left.

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            It’s interesting watching the raging firestorm over a loss in a meaningless bowl game. Pellum might be the fall guy, but there’s a weird sentiment to demote him, not fire him outright. I don’t know if Helfrich knows what to do. He’s just happy he has another 5th year transfer onboard.

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            Just saw that UO’s LB coach got a new job and Pellum is being bumped back down so Helfrich can hire a new DC.

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            Wow, the shit storm is real and Helfrich is feeling it. I guess Duck Nation wants to be considered an “Elite” program for the rest of it’s existence. Pellum seems like a good guy and a Duck lifer, too bad he doesn’t just walk away instead of taking the demotion. Too bad for the Beavs in the Civil War next year also.

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            Honestly the ducks D has been mediocre bordering on shit for awhile. This last year they were complete shit. I’m not saying Pellum isn’t the problem, but do you recall how often they bitched about Allioti and his bend but don’t break defense? I’d really like to see the statistics on how often Oregon won the time of possession battles in games the last few seasons. I’m looking at this purely from a logical standpoint. Oregon likes to run up tempo and strike quickly. Well, logically that puts your defense on the field more often, right? The ducks have been able to put up video game numbers on offense because of all world QB play. That’s how they were able to hide a mediocre/shitty D. Get up by a few scores, watch the opponent panic and make mistakes. What happens when the QB play is sub par? Well, we saw the perfect storm twice this season. Utah and the 2nd half against TCU. However from the day he left campus going forward, every QB that walks the field at Autzen is going to be compared to the golden child and if they don’t measure up? Failure. All world QB’s don’t come along like that every day. All we had heard since Dixon, Masoli, Thomas, Mariota and then VA Jr was, system. Plug and play. So what’s the excuse now? They squarely lay the blame on Pellum and a shitty D. Sorry, but there’s more to it than that and their defense hasn’t been that great for several years.

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            They didn’t have a back up for Dixon that one season and it feel apart also. I think a lot of the recent success on offense was Chip. I think Helfrick is clueless on how to develop in house QBs. Next transfer up!

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            The Ducks D was actually quite good when Kelly and the DL coach Azzinaro (who acted as a 1b DC) were there. Especially given the offensive bias of the team, as you mention. Otherwise, as you mention, has been shit.

            Scott Frost might actually be the reason for lack of QB development. The receivers were poor when he was the WR coach. He became the OC/QB coach and the receivers became very good and the QBs stopped developing. Mariota was the last QB brought in by Helfrich while Kelly was there.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Beavs up to 26th in RPI after yesterday’s win. Kansas (10th) and Valparaiso (44th) as only losses. Still way too many games left to read much into it but the Pac-12 has 8 teams in the top 41 and 11 of 12 in the Top 100. Here’s a head scratcher, UCSB at 49th with a record of 5-7. Gotta take tare of business Wednesday and Saturday

    http://realtimerpi.com/college_Men_basketball_rpi1.html

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      Glad we’re 26, but RPI is a load of crap. Important crap come tourney time, but crap.

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      Well, they were a pretty shitty defense, but Scooby Wright was out for most the season.

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      Any news re Riley firing his DC? And, come to think of it, his OC too?

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        What’s the cliche? Something about hell and cold weather. Riley, Banker and Langsdorf- Best Friends Forever!

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    I noticed the twitter feed went to a fish-eye pic of Gill at sunset. Nice.

    And I didn’t see anyone post this yet:
    http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25437410/observations-marylands-guards-are-the-best-in-the-nation

    Finally. Legendary Gill might be more so in action than words if this keeps up. The place is just electric when it rocks.

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      Since it’s basketball season, figured the wallpaper was due for a change and happened across that pretty picture of Gill. Kudos to whoever I stole it from

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    GP II all over the news today for his continued posterizing dunks

    http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2016/01/03/posterized-gary-payton-iis-up-to-his-usual-tricks/

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      hate seeing boucher down south as he would have been awesome as a beav.

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        Other finalist was MN. Of course he goes quack.

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    Coach Chad’s exit interview. Talks about the need to get more talent through recruiting and GA staying the course. Pretty honest assessment

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2016/01/chad_kauhaahaa_says_oregon_sta.html

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      “We did what we had to do, and I think this class was really big for us on getting the kids that fit out mentality and that can fulfill our expectations. That’s what we’re doing. It’s not a knock on the last staff, but it is what it is.”

      Ummm, yeah it kind of is a knock on the previous coaching staff. What you’re saying is you are recruiting kids that can fulfill your expectations that the previous coaching staff’s kids could not. That’s a knock on both the players and previous coaching staff. Thanks Riley and Co. Dicks. You, you’re shitty recruiting and coaching are the reason for this ground up restoration.

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        Basically, they want guys who want to bust someone’s ass.

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    WBB starting now on PAC12

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    Shout out and an atta boy to Tres Tinkle. Getting it done on the court and in the classroom. Tres was in the Gazette Times today for maintaining a 4.0 GPA. Great job Tres!

    http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/people/at-our-best-jan/article_75d06f36-2863-53aa-bd83-426295a68391.html

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    Don pellum out as DC at ducks, will move to LB coach. Ducks looking for new DC. I’ll find an article asap.

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      And I’m late as fuck on this……I need to read more.

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        Isn’t there a good alum candidate just up the road who happens to be available? πŸ™‚

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    I know Rueck and the BWBs have spoiled us, but they sure are putting in a disappointing season so far. Can’t beat anyone with a ranking.

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      Wiese still out?

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      Hate to say it, but imo this team kinda peaked out mid-season last year after the first part of the Pac-12 season–probably the ASU win in Tempe–after coming off a strong preseason. They haven’t seemed to have grown that much since then. Repeating the Pac-12 will be tough. I could see the Beavs getting 6 or 7 conference losses this year.

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        They get killed with pressure D. TO’s like crazy.

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        Some teams rise to expectations and thrive, others don’t. If they don’t get this figured out, looks like they are the latter.

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        Yeah… that or Sydney Wiese is really really good… if only for depth… or because she’s really really good.

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    Well, it was nice to see Mandy. But 26 turnovers, ugh!

  • cj cj says:
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    UCLA Coach Close…any relation? Sorta reminded me of Moby Dick in that white outfit.

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    OT – Coach Chad K in the Olive:

    “To me, that’s what I take out of this experience, because I’ve never been in this situation. I’ve had some rough years, but not as rough as this. Again, it comes back to recruiting, recruiting, recruiting. That’s the lifeline of your program. We’re trying to revive that. I appreciate everything that our players did for us this year, but again, we gotta recruit and create competition. That’s what we need to get better.”

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2016/01/chad_kauhaahaa_says_oregon_sta.html#incart_most-readbeavers

    • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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      Half the article was a slam on the way Riley left the program, un-recruited, even though Chad tried to clean it up by saying “It’s not a knock on the last staff, but it is what it is.” I really like what I read here and it is attitudes like this in the coaching staff that will turn this program around.

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        Last staff dropped the ball and put us in a sucky situation. Is what it is.

        Interestingly, my phone tried to autocorrect sucky to ducky

  • issaquahbeav says:
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    When’s the funeral for the Pure-Orange board?

  • Jack Jack says:
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    Anyone else see KU win last night?

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    And another one about to jump ship?

    Or should I say: Another commit gets diverted?

    Relying too much on Poly kids for this recruiting class might end up biting the Beavs in the you know what.

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      He’s a mission kid right?

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      If you are referring to Sione Finau’s BYU offer, keep in mind he is a Mission kid so we would have to re-recruit him in 2 years anyways.

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      Thanks BB and KMan. I’m feeling better already.

      I’m not clear as to how it works with scholarships. Let’s say the Beavs have 25 to use and Finau decides to stay with the Beavs (and he’s the only mission kid). Because of the fact that he has one does that mean there would only be 24 new guys come next fall?

      Thanks again. πŸ™‚

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        I don’t want to sound like a duck but……I did some digging on this kid. He’s really small to be playing in the pac12….at least to me. He also made some comments during the summer about wanting to go to BYU but complaining that they hadn’t recruited him. He seems like a good kid, but his dream was BYU, and I think he would have eventually taken the long route to get there (committing somewhere else, then transfering after mission was up) I think it was on twitter, but I can’t remember for sure.

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          I really like the Polynesian kid’s but I’ve never been in love with the idea of hitching the wagon to a bunch of mission guys.

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        I am not 100% on how the numbers work, but I think its something like this:
        He would count against our 25 scholar limit in this years class. However, (assuming he goes on Mission) he would not be apart of the 85 player limit when they come out next Fall, so that would “free-up” an available schlorship where they could give to a walk-on or greyshirt to get to the maximum of 85. We would still have a 25 scholarship limit next year.

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    OT: Johnny Hekker

    C’mon Johnny! Act like a man. No cheap shots.

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      You would think he’d be smarter than that. The guy is the highest paid punter in the nfl. Why risk being an asshole and putting a target on your back?

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    My civil war assessment:

    -If Tres Tinke continues to his ascent, he is going to be far better than I thought. He is solid, smart player. Also, they say he is not even be in top condition yet due to injury recovery! 19 pts in civil war.

    -Duvivier and Gomis had no points and nearly zero rebounds. Disappointing coaches can’t at least get rebounds and minimal points from Gomis and Cheick.

    -I will re-watch civil war to determine if Duvivier contributed defensively, because he had no pts.

    -Last, we need to follow our damn shots! Olaf takes a shot and immediately turns and runs down court. Doesn’t even attempt to follow his shot. I would throw something at him if I were there.

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      Also, if Tres has a couple more games like civil war, I don’t see why he doesn’t start!

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        Tres is better coming off the bench right now. It gives the team a jolt and keeps the starters motivated to stay sharp.

        For Duvivier and Gomis who have empty boxscores, you have to look at their turnovers as the most important stat. If they aren’t contributing on offense, they better not be giving the ball away. And they didn’t. 2 turnovers for them in 34 combined minutes. They also only took two shots, well Duvivier did. There’s enough scorers on team that they don’t need points from these guys. At best these guys are the 8th and 9th scorers on the team.

        Olaf has quietly started to really come along. Look at his stat lines for the last 7 games. Shooting 60% and 54% from 3 point range. 2.75 to 1 assist to turnover ratio.

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          Duvivier missed another layup as usual on a nice drive (sorry to be a downer).

  • ace0099 says:
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    new Associate Athletic Director, leading a newly formed Ideation Team

    http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30800&ATCLID=210616526

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      It will be interesting to see where this goes. If its successfull It should help recruiting for the next few years…at least until everyone else catches on.

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        Hopefully by then our product on the field will speak for itself. I’m glad to see OSU being on the innovative side and not giving in to the narrative.

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      I had to look this one up it’s an idea imagination team!
      Wow, this is amazing…
      It could be an amideation team which would be an amazing idea imagination team.
      Sounds like Disney should have thought this one up.
      How about a wamideation team which would include the word wonderful.
      Then we could shorten it to wamidation to make it easier to say and wallah, recruits will flock to Corvallis for wamidation.
      We could create neat movies that give tours of Corvallis and show how wonderful it is.

      Kidding aside, I loved living in Corvallis and would go back, but then again I like to wear my blaze orange from the game right out to the woods for some huntin’. Gotta love school colors that double as outdoorsman clothes.

      Good luck to the idea anime creation team or whatever. The recruitment art is very cool. Not sure of the artistic genre though. Would you call it Wheaties baseball card, or comic cartoon athelete glorification. Gotta be a cool acronym for that how bout “wabase” or “toonlete” I like “toonlete”. Then again there’s “elite toonlete” or “etoonlete”. Not to be confused with iTunes, or eTrade ……….

    • NiceBeaver NiceBeaver says:
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      Looks like they’ve finally realized OSU marketing has been half-assing things for long enough.

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      This guy will be hearing about the “super-usher” program for filling seats at Gill which are seen on TV.

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        Or why not flip where the teams sit to the near side and put the student section on the side the camera shows? LSU and Duke do that. (assuming you can’t just switch camera position sides.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    The Ducks, who can thrive when they get the chance to run, had zero fast-break points against Oregon State.

    “That was one of the more impressive things about the other night,” Wayne Tinkle said. “We thought that was a real strength of Oregon that we had to take away – their transition. We did that.”

    Pats sefl on back ( no I didn’t play in the game but was the only of us degenerates to point this out and thought it was a big key in the beavs winning the game)

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2016/01/oregon_state_effectively_click.html

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      It was a solid coaching and very nice execution by the players. On the other side, Altman couldn’t figure a way to shut any of our strengths down. Altman was clearly outclassed and in desperate need of more transfers or something.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        Altman was 9-2 vs OSU and Tinkle 0-2 vs Oregon before Sunday. How many times did we see OSU run the shot clock down to 10 in the second half before running offense? If you missed that? Go watch the game again. Purely tactical move by coach Tinkle and the players executed perfectly. Oregon had zero fast break points and were averaging 77 pts per game. Oregon dug themselves too big of a hole to overcome. The closest they got was 60-52. In game management. Something we aren’t used to seeing.

        See ya’ll at the Stanford game Wednesday night. Go Beavs!

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      I think a lot of that was the opening salvo of offensive rebounds by the Beavs. Oregon couldn’t leak out because the Beavs were getting too many second chance points. The best way to stop a fast break is to rebound and score.

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        The best way to stop a transition team is to slow the ball when they first get it and to get back.

        GP2 was stalking most of them when they rebounded. Hell, it started on the tip. He just got in their heads that he was there and would take the ball if you got lazy. And transition ball is the height of lazy when perfected because it’s second nature. It’s lazy because some hoopsters know what that nature is. GP2 is one of them. He would lose a rebound, and then he would stand on the guy’s hip (I can only imagine… breathing heavily). Instead of trying the fly-out pass, that guy had to think and either tuck away from GP2 or make the safe bounce pass to the corner. And suddenly they don’t have numbers in the front court.

        These are things we didn’t see in the second half against KU. But we have seen them pretty consistently from everyone since. It’s like we realized we can’t outscore the elite teams, but we can shut them down if we listen to coach and do what we’re told.

        OT… I see people here knocking Malcolm for his stat line. I have to disagree. One person noted that he is out there for a reason. He is correct. Malcolm is a rock on D. Hell, he looks like a rock. He very rarely gives up a first step. And his hands are always up, always. I see Stevie and Bruce out there with good footwork on D. But they usually have their hands hanging behind their legs. That is not an optimum position for any defender no matter their talent. Malcolm is in position and is so strong with his legs that he can side step around the perimeter faster than most people can run. That lowers his profile on high screens and lets him be in the next position so much faster.

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    kerry eggers tweeted

    kerry eggers ?@kerryeggers 51m51 minutes ago
    Kevin Clune and Cory Hall to be named as @OSUBeaversFB new coaches on Wednesday #gobeavs

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    Jonathan Kongbo rescinded Tennessee commitment

    https://twitter.com/King_Kongbo/status/684576305161977856

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    So pumped for the game tomorrow. I will happily eat crow if it means Olaf keeps playing like Lil’ Dirk out there!

  • ObjCritic says:
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    OT – Hey BeaverGopher, how do you think the Seahawks will fare in the chill of Gopher Stadium?

    Attending?

    Not a Seahawks fan, just curious.

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      I’m a Packer “owner,” so no. The thought of the the Barney Purple clad scum sitting in our beautiful stadium makes me want to projectile vomit. Rough year for football for me all around.
      Wish both teams could lose, but will be hoping for the Seasquawks to win. It will be the first really cold day here this winter. Perhaps a slight advantage to the Queens weather wise, but a huge QB advantage for Seattle.

      • Jack Jack says:
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        It’s too bad the Seattle QB has no Wisconsin, cold weather experiences. That would help.

        Oh well.

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          Good point.

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            He really doesn’t. The NC State grad QB, who claims Wisconsin on his NFL intro, was in Madison long enough to get a brat and a Spotted Cow at State Street Brats and beat both my of my rodents.
            Great QB. Do I despise him…….yup.

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            Well… at least playing in Seattle isn’t like playing at Candlestick on steroids.

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    Eggers on Tinkle, Beavs win against UO:

    “Let there be no doubt that the man who sits in the first seat on the Oregon State basketball bench appreciates the legacy left by such as Hall of Fame OSU coaches Slats Gill and Ralph Miller.

    Wayne Tinkle’s emotions ran high as a sellout crowd of 9,604 — with nearly 800 ticket-buyers unwilling to brave the elements — watched the Beavers beat Oregon 70-57 Sunday afternoon at Gill Coliseum.

    “I got a little misty-eyed during pre-game introductions,” OSU’s second-year coach said after notching his first Civil War victory. “I looked up in each corner of Gill and thought of the history here and how cool it was to have it at capacity with this group of players.”

    http://pamplinmediagroup.com/pt/12-sports/287465-164406-tinkles-troops-rekindle-the-magic

    • marcodg marcodg says:
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      Ralph is probably still harumphing about jump shots, shooting free throws overhanded and that crazy thing called dribbling but I’m guessing he enjoyed the intensity.

      • ObjCritic says:
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        Going through PACKS of heavenly cigarettes due to bounce passes, dunks….

        • marcodg marcodg says:
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          Don’t forget the scotch.

          • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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            Thought it was Bourbon.

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            Guys like him made smoking okay….

            When OSU makes the tournament I may just have to light one up for Miller….

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      And this comment to the article:

      exciting game. But what’s with all those empty seats behind the benches? Those are prime seats and seem to always be empty. Stansbury ought to look into if those big ticket donors are still alive or just paying by proxy. It looks bad on TV.

      • Jack Jack says:
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        It’s a little hard to beat on them for this one game. Most of those people live out in the hills in the coast range or up in the foothills. I’m thinking even Corvallis’ NW hills were pretty sketchy on Sunday. I have a free run up I5 and over 34. So icy isn’t a problem. But I usually take 99w just because. And I wasn’t going to pretend to try it in those conditions.

        edit: And know that those seats would have been filled by those people for a CW game if for no other game all season. That’s a high-profile, see me sitting here game. There is a lot of business happening at that game.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Just had a good thought: What if these trucks were hauling this fill to Auzten and dumping there:

    http://webcam.oregonstate.edu/reser/

    • osbeavs says:
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      What’s up with the construction? It was my understanding that there was going to be a new valley but the building itself looks unharmed. It looks like they just tore out the bleachers. Anyone have a mockup of what it will look like this fall?

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    OT again, but the Portland Tribune on the Ducks; I know its not enough to enjoy their suffering, OSU still has a long way to go under Andersen, but they point out how UO’s season basically was salvaged by a transfer QB, without whom they might have won 4-5 games, how woefully bad the D is, and that QB development is needed over these 1-year transfer solutions:

    http://pamplinmedia.com/pt/12-sports/287481-163469-collapse-or-comeback-for-uo-coach-

    And that photo of Lockie makes me think he wants to switch and play defense for the Ducks: “Like this coach? isn’t this the right position?!?”

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Canzano likes Clune hire, Andersen’s “stock:”

    http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2016/01/canzano_oregon_state_gets_defe.html#incart_river_index

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      Hate to say it but, Canzano kind of nailed it. But it’s nothing that hasn’t been repeated here, in one form or another.

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    Gina up with a story on the hiring of the new ideation guy. I got a two-fer by commenting on empty seats and promoting AB. Your upvote over there, if you so choose, might bring more visibility to both points.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2016/01/russell_houghtaling_hired_to_l.html

    • Timber! says:
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      I’ve been in contact with Russell Houghtaling via Twitter today. Excited about the fwd thinking recently in Mktg. Am sending him many ideas via email later. He’s open to hearing.

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