10.Feb.2016 Hoops Poll: Will the Beavers make the Post-Season?

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With a huge game tomorrow, let’s see where we’re at.

Excluding the Pac-12 Tournament, based just on the remaining 7 games:

Will the Beavers make the Post-Season?

  • Yes, NIT (68%, 186 Votes)
  • Yes, NCAA (21%, 57 Votes)
  • No. (12%, 32 Votes)

Total Voters: 275

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  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    Yes

  • Bill says:
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    NIT is very much alive which would represent progress in the program. I’d say about a 10-15% chance to make the big dance.

    I still think if the Beavs can get to 9-9, they would make it into the tourney. Below that would require a lot of help. Would need help from other major conferences and for small conference regular season winners to win their auto bids.

    Three more wins and NIT is guaranteed.

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      The NIT is fools gold. The conventional wisdom is that it helps a young team by putting them in some one and done games and gives them more developmental time. The reality is that you are in that tourney because your team is flawed. Gophers won the NIT two years ago and then had a disappointing year last season losing a bunch of close games. What the NIT revealed was how valuable Austin Hollins (Lionel’s kid for all you old Blazer fans) was. He was the one missing piece from the NIT run and the team was totally different. The cautionary tale is that he was basically the team Swiss Army knife like GP2. Better than the CBI, but the NIT is participation trophy tournament.

      • angry angry says:
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        NIT would suck every year, but this year it would be an okay accomplishment and highlight how the team is improved, give them some post-season experience, etc. For a young team like this with no accomplishments I think it would be a good one.

        Not trying to be all Riley and say low level tourney or bowl is a good thing, but considering this program’s recent history it should be viewed as a stepping stone. Not sure about the Gophers situation, but I think that’s ours…sadly

        • issaquahbeav says:
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          I can agree with this as progress, however, the departure of GPII will set OSU back next year, and I don’t see the current young guns filling his production to the point of making the tourney next year. Perhaps the year after that once Tinkle gets a team filled with his guys/recruits.

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            My point exactly.

          • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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            But you have to think someone will mature in a years time right? It’s not like the season ends and then next year we start with 0 development from the previous year.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            there is a pretty good JC guy coming in for next year. GP2 was a JC xfer. Let’s not forget that

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        So there’s no incentive or reward? I understand it’s the NIT (Not In Tournament) but for a team in the last 25 years that’s gotten in once and a handful of crappy CBI invites, I’d take it. Plus you get the opportunity to play at home if your a higher seed and make some extra scratch at the gate. The last 4 teams get to play at MSG in New York so there’s your reward. I understand. Haven’t been in 26 years. But for a young team, I’d say the NIT they have a better chance of succeeding, especially if they play at home. Big dance would be one and done

  • dwill03 dwill03 says:
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    Do you have a fearless prediction? It seems they should be a lock for the NIT this year with the high RPI and all. I’m hesitant to vote until they play tomorrow though. If things have clicked and they can finally win a game on the road tomorrow night then I vote yes for the Tourney. I think they have a good story: Storied program that has been shit for so long, GPII senior year, freshman sons of coaching dads, etc…

    • angry angry says:
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      Yes, I stand by my comment they won’t make the NCAA.

      NIT is looking very good right now, but that can change fast…I think they have to win 1 or 2 road games and take care of business at home to guarantee that.

      The difference between the NIT and NCAA might be one win. I think they need 10 to get on the NCAA bubble. 9 puts them in the NIT imo.

      Of course the Pac 12 Tourney can change things, but I’m talking just the remaining scheduled games.

      For the poll, I voted “Yes, NIT”

      • Jack Jack says:
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        Eight with a Tourney win would put us on the bubble with the conference RPI. Eight with two Tourney wins would be a lot better. It would all have to do with where we land in seeding for the Pac Tourney itself. Eight wins and a top seven seed look a lot better than eight with a ten seed. Nine with a Tourney win would be a lock. Seven wins puts us in the NIT for sure… unless we win the Tourney itself.

        But they have to win a road game first. Tomorrow may prove to be which of those teams we choose to be.

        • angry angry says:
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          So that means they just have to win 1 of 5 road games, to get to 8 wins, and you think they are in?

          Not sure they’d put such a bad road team in the tourney. Especially a young team. It’s a recipe for blowout since they’d be on the road. Their two road wins are Rice and UCSB, which aren’t impressive. That Utah/CO road series was the key to the season. They needed one of those games.

          If I were selecting, I’d want to see the Beavs win 3 of the last 5 road games to prove an uptrend and some merit/argument on why I should send them packing for an NCAA tourney road game.

          Eyeball test alone says NIT team. No rebounding, can’t box out, no inside scoring threat…

          • Bill says:
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            It’ll also depend on how many at large bid are out there. At large bids are reduced when small conference reg season champs don’t win their auto bid but are good enough to get an at large.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            It all depends on our seeding for the Pac Tourney if this is our hypothetical. Eight wins would mean a likely three or even four way tie for seventh. Where we fall in the tie-break gets some looks. This being the stretch that the committee will be looking at, losing road games will be understandable. Winning any will be good but not quite good enough. Winning two will be good enough. But both those hypotheticals rely on winning at least one Tourney game to prove we belong in the top eight in the conference. From there, the RPI will be weighted.

            That’s why getting to eight wins would likely need us to get to the semis. A .500 season from here on out, against this competition and with only two home games, looks good to the committee.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            “No rebounding, can’t box out”

            I brought up Jim Hanchett a few weeks ago in another thread. Dude was a rebounding machine and only 6’4″. GP2 is either 6′-3 or 4 (I forget which). Just goes to show that boxing out and rebounding is all about effort.

  • marcodg marcodg says:
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    Put me in the “yes, NIT” bucket. At this point in the season, you are what you are. In this case a not-very-good-road-team in a tough conference.

  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    I voted “yes, NIT”. But if Beavs beat Stanford tomorrow, getting to 6-6 in conference, NCAA still seems possible. This year, I think 9-9 in conference (plus at least one win in the conference tournament) would do it. So, if OSU beats Stanford, beavs would then need to win the two games at home against the Washington schools, plus at least one of the four remaining road games (Cal, Oregon, USC, UCLA). Not easy, but doable. But again only if OSU beats Stanford tomorrow night. Go ‘Beavs.

  • angry angry says:
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    If they do make the NCAA I’d obviously be stoked to break that drought, but I’d fear a major blowout. Deer in headlights type road team in their first Tourney game is not good.

    I see Tinkle and Thompson slowly and steadily improving all year. I still feel they are wildcards…if they can tee off and give 35-40 combined points in the upcoming road games Beavs could start winning those games. They’d need the other players to box out. The lack of boxing out really has me perplexed and concerned…makes zero sense. It requires no talent, and to a degree doesn’t even require size. Just get your lazy ass into good position.

    • Bill says:
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      No one cares about the scores in the NCAA, it’s did you make it in and how far did you go?

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        Pretty much.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        and if they make it in, one and done it will be. But everyone can relax as after these next three games it will be a moot point

    • thatguy says:
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      Who cares if we get blown out in game 1? It’s been 26 years since we been in it. I just want to put OSU in my bracket. NIT would be a good stepping stone since we haven’t even made that since 05.

      You’re right though, with the rebounding and inside scoring threat, we just don’t have a good team in comparison to other tourney teams. USC is sort of in the same boat we are but they have better shooting and more road wins.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        I was in Gill that night and am still annoyed with that NIT game against Fullerton in 2005. Fullerton had I think only one player taller than 6′-6″ and what does Jay John have his team do? Chucking up 3’s all game long and getting horribly out rebounded by an inferior team instead of punishing them inside. Great game plan there genius. Coming back from almost 20 down gassed them and OSU lost at the buzzer in OT. Another reason if I ever see Jay John again I will kick him right square in his man pussy for setting OSU back another 10 years. He’s a fucker, trashed Corvallis in the coaching circles after he got shit canned and can die in a fire for all I care.

        • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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          WSN, somehow I think you might be holding out on how you really feel about Jay John. Your in a safe place….just let it out man. 😉

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            of all the previous head coaches since Ralph Miller he is the only one I hate

  • angry angry says:
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    Just saw this tweet:

    BREAKING: USC’s Athletic Director Pat Haden seen collapsing outside athletic facilities, paramedic on scene confirms

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    Way OT – Baseball
    Probably should know the answer, but I don’t. Why is “Sweet Caroline” played at Beavs baseball games?……………My wife said, “those guys on that blog” will know.

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      We’re copying the Redsox? According to history it was because the song lifted the spirits of the crowd. They only played it if Boston was ahead, then the new vp decided it should be played at every game startan in 2002…. the rest is history.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      they do it at Corvallis Knights games too. Even been to a few Volcanoes games in Keizer, yup same thing. I don’t know about MLB but it’s pretty much the norm at any other games I’ve been to

      • WFO WFO says:
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      • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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        Since terrible music is kind of this blogs thing. 😉 other than beaver sports. Enjoy a terrible music video. https://youtu.be/xJHG8yJAuEg

        • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          Not sure anything could ever top this turd sandwich

        • WFO WFO says:
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          Me First and the Gimme Gimmes are actually a pretty awesome band if you’re in to punk rock and you have to ability to not take music super seriously sometimes. It’s a side project that only does punk covers and a lot of it is great, especially if you’re familiar with the original songs. Most of it probably flies right over anyone who’s not 40.

  • Theboneyard says:
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    Bleacher Report has the Beavs as a 9 seed against Uconn

  • Theboneyard says:
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    GP2 makes the wodden award top 20. One of two pac-12 players to make the cut.

  • JockItch JockItch says:
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    I don’t see NCAA tourney if recent history of road woes is any indication. Beavs may win one on the road, two at home going 3 and 4 the rest of the way — 8-10 conference record. They get absolutely blasted on the road.
    Don’t get expectations up….NIT here we come!!

    • Theboneyard says:
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      I’d say we need a win against Stanford on the road this week, one more road win against the La schools or Oregon and then sweep the Washington schools at least. A tournament win or two would help that cause.

  • Gobeavers92 says:
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    Let’s finally get some good music on here for once. http://youtu.be/BfsSSa-3ROw

  • JeremiahBeav says:
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    Realistically need a sweep this week for any type of meaningful post season hopes. If Beavs split or get swept the jury will still be out, but with less margin for error. Beating Stanford won’t really help since their record and rpi stinks, but losing to them would severely damage our overall case for the post season. Unless, of course, they sweep all remaining games and win or make semifinals of p12 tournament.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      A loss to Cal would not hurt the Beavs chances. Currently the Bears are 34th in RPI and undefeated at home this season. A win there isn’t happening. Stanford is the one they NEED to get. Lose to Stanford Thursday night, probably forget about it

      Cal – 34th
      Beavs – 38th
      Stanford – 72nd

      http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2016/rpi-live

      • JeremiahBeav says:
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        I agree. If Beavs lose to at Stanford it would put a big dent in our chances. Might need to run the rest of the regular season table or could maybe absorb only 1 more “good” loss at that point.

        Stanford is an odd bunch this year. Virtually all their players were highly regarded athletic kids, but haven’t been consistent or very good at all as a team.

        • Jack Jack says:
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          It’s because they whine and complain and point fingers. I can only imagine what their locker room is like when they’re losing.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    With the strength of the Pac-12 this season imo this is what it would take to get to the NCAA tournament (I don’t think it will happen but it would be the easiest path)………….

    Beat Stanford and UCLA on the road, sweep the Washington schools at home (road losses at UO, USC and Cal). Win the opening round game at the Pac-12 tournament. That would put the Beavs at 19-12 with a good enough RPI to get in. Those 3 losses and second round loss at the conference tournament would be to teams with higher RPI’s and would not hurt as much. Also they’d be 7-4 in their final 11 games which would be a good finish. If they can’t finish 4-3 in these last 7 conference games before the tournament, good luck with that. They absolutely CANNOT lose to Stanford, UCLA, UW and especially WSU due to their RPI

    • angry angry says:
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      I’d say that’s very realistic.

    • Dansen Dansen says:
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      I honestly think it’s possible that taking into consideration the depth of the PAC-12 and depending on how the tournaments of the mid-major and below conferences turn out, the Beavs could sneak into the NCAA tournament (probably as a play-in team) at 8-10 in conference play (a sweep of the Washington schools at home and one road win).

      The major issue with this scenario is that they’d only have one road win in conference, which I don’t know how favorably/harshly the tournament committee would look at that.

      Or maybe I’m just a dreamer with my orange-colored glasses.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Everyone remember that win over Tulsa at the Moda Center back in December? Looking better all the time. Tulsa up to 41st in RPI after handing SMU their first home loss. Keep rooting for Kansas (4), Valpo (45), Tulsa (41), Iona (146 but 2nd place in the MAAC) and UCSB (99). The higher those teams finish the better the Beavs RPI and SOS will wind up

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Updated NIT bracketology (I know, lame)

    Because the Beavs are so forgettable…………..

    Note: An astute reader pointed out that Oregon St. isn’t in this bracket. They should be. Most likely on the 1 or 2 seed line. The last team in was Albany. So the Great Danes would be pushed out if that was the case.

    http://www.nycbuckets.com/2016/02/nit-bracketology-feb-10-2016/

    Currently a 2 seed in this projection

    http://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/

  • Theboneyard says:
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    Must win game tonight. If we lose our tourney hopes go down the drain.

  • NiceBeaver NiceBeaver says:
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    Is it just me or did they get it all wrong with this mammoth shirt design?
    It’s like they took the first design submitted and said “let’s start making shirts! Gotta sell em while the idea is hot!”

    The mammoth looks lame, the field is lame, the hashtag is lame. They got the black, long sleeved part right at least.

    http://osubeaverstore.com/Product/Detail/-damboneyard-mammoth-long-sleeve/

    • angry angry says:
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      It does look like clip art, but I’m just happy they’re using the mammoth.

      OSU never gets things right or reacts fast to opportunity, so it’s good to see.

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      End zones are backwards. Yeah it looks terrible over all. The all orange version is better.

    • hellobeavers says:
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      What is the deal with Oregon State and hashtags? play on words using “Dam” is also annoying, i.e. Oregon State Dam Straight. Please don’t tell me that #OregonStateDamStraight is already on a tee shirt.

      They need to cease the use of hashtags unless they are on twitter, and stop making up puns using “Dam”.

      • angry angry says:
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        Exactly. It made that Sprague/Machado podcast unlistenable. They made that pun every other sentence.

      • WFO WFO says:
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        The hashtags are fucking terrible. Not sure if it’s a generational thing and I’m just being a grumpy old bastard. Do younger folks think it’s stupid too?

        • Dansen Dansen says:
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          As a member of the younger generation, I cannot stand “hashtags”. I know the point of them is to get attention on social media, but my God, why must it be incorporated on apparel? I would never want to wear an article of clothing with that on it.

          • WFO WFO says:
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            Cool, thank you. I’m 42 so I’ve had a front row seat to this whole interweb thing, and my opinion has been that the hashtag thing has gone too far on everything. Good to know I’m not alone haha.

        • scotty says:
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          I think it’s annoying, and anyone crossing the line and verbally saying “hashtag [something]” deserves a good slap

      • NiceBeaver NiceBeaver says:
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        I think they started using hashtags with the #Beaverjuice/Gameday thing from a fee years ago and decided they need to put a hashtag on everyshirt they produce since. Just out of touch.

        The new one I’m tired of is all of the “Dab on them” poses and characters we use in our recruiting materials. It’s been played out for months. Now is not the time to adopt it.

        • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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          I think hastags are idiotic but most of my generation loves hashtags, and has no problem with them on t-shirts and whatnot.

          If it works and reaches people in my generation, I’m okay with it. Just don’t expect me to buy it personally.

          Also, looking through the Beaver store, there’s plenty of material without hashtags if that’s your kind of thing. Plus, the whole “Dam” pun is no worse than what I found on the Duck store (which has puns like “Fast as Duck”).

        • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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          It’s those dam kids and their rock&roll music.

          The “dab” thing is over played….to us. But look how many recruits used it for their tweeter avitars. They think it’s cool….I don’t care one way or the other.
          I’m 37….I’m not cool anymore….if I ever was. I remember when getting loaded and grinding on a drunk co-ed was all I wanted to do. Now I just want to sleep or check my 401k progress.
          And #hashtagsaredumboutsidetheinternet

          • Jack Jack says:
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            I don’t even care enough about dabs to know what it means. It looks like one of James Brown’s famous moves to me.

            And hashtags are inefficient as a filter, so I don’t bother with them and have conditioned myself to ignore them when scanning.

          • Ripper Ripper says:
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            Sweet Jesus…oh to be 37 again.

    • WFO WFO says:
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      That “mammoth” is fucking terrible. Looks like someone took a template of a bison (short legs, huge shoulders, squatty rear) and drew a trunk on and added boar tusks.

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      It looks like I would imagine a mammoth to look like if it was taking a dump.

      Then again what do I know about mammoths taking dumps.

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