3:30 on Pac-12
Two in a row. Go Beavs. Make it four in a row
Go stinky beavs
Need to pack the paint. Let Cal shoot jumpers all day. And drive to the hoop all game on offense.
If you mean jumpers by 15 plus feet out, I would agree………………as long as they’re contested. I’m not sure I would play zone defense against these guys
The Golden Bears have the third best two-point field goal percentage in the country (40.1) (pretty sure lotsa dunks and layups)
The Golden Bears shot over 50 percent during a 77-71 loss at Gill Coliseum but were outscored 42-8 by the OSU bench
I think the Beavs will win or lose this game on the offensive end. Cal has a very good defense. Cal doesn’t go deep into their bench. Really only a 7 man rotation.
So I say, drive to the hoop, and try to get Cal to accumulate fouls in the first half. Beavs aren’t going to be able to keep up their 3pt shooting vs Stanford. Beavs only took 7 threes in the win vs Cal earlier this year.
Beavers should let Ty Wallace and Jaylen Brown launch from 3. Jabari Bird and Jordan Mathews are the guys the Beavers cannot leave open. Mathews shoots 45.4% from three. In the matchup zone it’s gonna come down to attention to detail. They lost Gabe York at times against Arizona and it burned them in the 2nd half. Can’t happen with Mathews and Bird. Make Brown and Wallace shoot a ton of jumpers.
Cal is a very athletic team, so hopefully this means less Olaf. Better off playing more of Tinkle at the 4 and being quicker and more dynamic at the 4 position and you’re getting a better rebounder at that spot. Olaf’s defense will get exposed even more in a game like this when he has to come into the corners and he’ll get blown by at will or will give up wide open threes. Hopefully Wayne Tinkle sees this. LMW has been very disappointing but he can defend. I’d like to see him out there today to give the Beavers more athleticism on the perimeter when they go small. He gave some good minutes against Stanford aside from the bad decision on the fast break.
I haven’t watched Cal, so unfortunately I can’t comment on the matchups. But, if it’s true they’re athletic and have good 3 shooters, I don’t see the Beavs winning. Teams like that seem to break down the Beav’s zone pretty easily. Even if the D shows up, can OSU do simple things like box out/rebound and give effort? They give effort here and there on the road but not consistently. Boxing out has been their major flaw all year. Time for Eubanks or Big G to take the next step and do work inside. Short of that, I see problems vs the Cal team you guys are describing.
I like what I saw from Eubanks against Furd – huge steps forward from the first time we played them! Very aggressive and in control. We need more of that.
Tinkle > Olaf at the 4.
Cal will have big heads. This is a textbook “let down game” scenario for them. Beavs win easily.
Cal trap game?
It’s cool that the opportunity is there for Tinkle era signature win that has tourney implications, I don’t think any of us would have thought this possible three years ago. It’s a huge task with Cal being undefeated at home. I would even be satisfied to see a close, hard fought game like Utah in SLC. Just don’t want to see a poor effort blow out like at ASU where they were lost on defense.
Maybe not 3 years ago, but as soon as Tinkle was hired many of us thought a Tourney was in the offing (year 3, I think, was consensus. So this is right on track and possibly a year early if they can finish it off). People are getting ahead of themselves, though, with all the Tourney talk. It’s possible but this team is pretty flawed so…
I was more referring the stagnant dark days of BDC and CR and when it looked like CR was going to get another year.
Go Angry Mammoths!
Ducks look slow against stanford.
Go Beavs! Ducks losing at halftime!
Watching the Ducks and Stanford; did Oregon State really play that good of defense against Stanford, or is Stanford just on fire offensively this game?
OT, but I found this cover of Bohemian Rhapsody on you tube. It’s neat because this young women takes popular songs then runs them through Google Translate several times then sings what comes out. Kind funny and interesting at the same time. Enjoy if you want to kill a few minutes.
Sorry Dansen didn’t mean to link that on your question.
I thought the Beavs closed out on the 3’s with some real good energy and they rebounded so much better.
Go Beavs and ‘furd!!! Which hopefully isn’t putting a jinx on ‘furd.
Altman’s cavalcade of transfers are in a bad spot, here’s to Furd finishing it off.
Stanford guy gets mauled on his layup, no call. Brooks charges, get the foul call.
I guess the refs made up for it, Brooks looked like he was fouled.
Wow should have been a foul on that dick Humphrey, but tree wins so that’s good
Doesnt a duck loss hurt our RPI? I dont care either way, but not sure them losing helps our cause much
I prefer to see the Beavs earn it. Beating Cal on the road should be a decent bump.
Helps Stanford’s RPI so that road win looks pretty good now.
Oregon will wind up with a great RPI so I don’t think it’s a big deal. Bottom line is Beavs need to win 4 games, 2 more on the road. Fate is in their hands so…
Stanford up to 75th in RPI after the win, Ducks fall to 5th
Just glad it didn’t go into OT. Altman had to get back to the locker room anyway to put more spray on his hair to cover his bald spot.
He looks like a flim-flam, used car salesman, shyster kind of guy. Like the kind of guys that befriend old widows, then steal their social security checks. Only thing missing is a pencil mustache and a pinky ring.
“bucket by Tinkle stops the bleeding”…WTF, the score was 4-0, that’s bleeding?
Tres’ defense has not been good so far. Had a chance to help on a Bird drive and just let him drive past him for a layup. Then Tres ball watches and gives Bird an uncontested open three but fortunately missed. Tres needs to be a lot more focused on defense if Oregon State is gonna hang in this game
Didn’t know Kameron Rooks is Sean Rooks kid. If anyone is old enough to remember him from his days at Arizona
“It’s not easy to bring in two top-5 high school guys, incorporate them into your team, and have success”
– idiotic commentator on Cal
What? That’s pretty true. The guys who are highly rated are very high on themselves. They are usually a one man show in high school. Team ball isn’t something they are used to.
Well gee, guess everyone should avoid those top recruits then if they’re so likely to block your success
His comment meant it takes a good coach to manage those kinds of personalities. Some coaches let the inmates run the asylum and it turns into a disaster.
Look at A&M football, they let Johnny Manziel run wild down there and it’s costing them now. Kyle Allen a 5 star recruit transferred because the coaches weren’t holding players accountable. They got the big recruits but now they’ve had the last three starting QBs transfer.
Sure, but I’d say it’s at least as hard to have success with less-talented players. Commentator quote was just a weak defense of Martin for his underachievement.
Get Reid out of there. Bad pass to turn it over after a rebound, then dribbles on the end line before in bounding the ball for back to back turnovers and 4 points for Cal.
And with that foul, Cal will be in the bonus the final almost 12 minutes of the half. Here’s where the game will get put away
I don’t feel the Beavs pass the eyeball test. It’s the rebounding/D problems that really stand out. I don’t sense any intensity or urgency. Almost seems like they’re content with the win vs Stanford. I mean it’s early and can change, but so far this is business as usual for the Beavs and Stanford the aberration.
Cal is faster and more athletic than Stanford
I realize that, but the intensity was better vs Stanford.
the difference so far is Cal is getting way too many easy baskets. Beavs had have to work for every score so far. Lucky to only be down 7 at the under 8 timeout
In other words, good/intense D vs bad/matador D.
Derrick Bruce Read has looked better then the T
This rebounding is so bad…makes it very hard to watch a full game.
Beavs down 6 early, have already missed 5 free throws…
Basketball is freaking unwatchable. It’s 90% about fouls fouls fouls fouls
And I’m disappointed in Tinkle and Thompson (I know he made some big ones last weekend), they should be lock down 82% shooters, it must be lack of concentration.
Olaf is so useless, too pussy to step in front.
And he puts his arms up in confusion while making the dumbfounded face after every obvious foul he commits.
He’s scared of contact.
Intensity is finally picking up. Maybe those Payton dunks woke them from the slumber.
14 fouls with 4minutes left. Cal has 8. This feels alot like the game in Boulder.
I think the refs have called a good game. You really think those weren’t fouls?
I don’t have a problem with any of the calls. Beavs are just being dumb.
It’s a bit excessive though, all 5 starters have at least 2 in this half. Fair or not it’s a recipe for disaster in the second half
Are Eubanks and Rakocevic in foul trouble, because why is Olaf playing the 5? (I missed the first 12 minutes of the half)
Based on the comments I guess I’m glad that I can’t find a stream that works for me.
Gary Paytons shirt is awesome.
Any time Gomis/Njaie (sp??) enter the game it’s a foul machine.
I realized the other day that Cheikh is still a junior. Can they cut him?
Beavs are lucky to not be down 25.
This is getting ridiculous. Every time Cal takes the ball to the basket it’s a foul. I’m not saying the fix is in but Cal has certainly been allowed to be more the more aggressive team without being whistled. Neither team shooting free throws worth two shits. 16 fouls on the Beavs already. Give me a fucking break
Name a foul that was an actual bad call…
Beavs are fouling. It’s that simple.
The Beavs are playing a lot of man aren’t they?
I could name several fouls on Cal that weren’t called. I’m not saying all of the fouls on the beavs weren’t fouls. A few were pretty weak calls though. This is your idea of a good officiated game?
Haven’t seen any blatant awful calls.
The Beavers have so many dumb frontcourt players. Reid and Schaftenaar have been atrocious. Reid’s decision making is embarrassingly bad
I guess I need to remember my own adage that “hope is not a strategy”…I was hoping the Stanford win would give them some confidence on the road, and they’d come out as a team on a mission to make the Dance, but it’s just business as usual, laying ostrich sized eggs on the road.
Cal is literally undefeated at home, and blew out the leading team in the conference by 20 just a few nights ago, and you’re going to actually take this as a sign that the Beavers can do nothing but lay eggs on the road?
I would read far more into whatever the results of Eugene are than this game. That being said, Reid and Schaaftenar are playing atrociously.
I once beat a black guy from Newark, NJ (basketball Mecca), who was a legend, on his home court…as a 5″11 whitish guy. All about intensity, confidence, effort. I don’t give two shits what Cal’s record is, nor should the Beavs, but they do, and they’re overwhelmed, because they are mentally weak.
“I once beat a black guy from Newark, NJ”
Were you wearing a hooded white sheet?
Sorry, couldn’t resist
Cue the PC police. They were probably already mad at me for saying “black”. Bring it on, you fuckers. I’m 6% black, and can therefore say whatever the fuck I want — bring it you fucking low life losers.
Again, more ESPN-level fluff from you. Intensity, confidence, and effort don’t count for anything without proper strategy, conditioning, etc. You can’t possibly compare playing a 1 v. 1 game of basketball to a 5 v. 5 game where factors like defense positioning, match-ups, etc. come into play. Despite what you may think, it takes far more than the factors you describe to win a game. All this simplistic talk about “mental weakness” smacks more of Skip Bayless than actual critical analysis.
Were the Beavs out of timeouts?
Not sure why WT didn’t call a timeout with 3 seconds left to allow them one more shot.
This ones over. No way they come back with all this foul trouble/lack of toughness. Not surprising though as Cal has been all world at home this year. It’s important to avoid just giving up and start playing to build momentum towards the duck game
I feel like 90% of games in all sports are over in the first five minutes. In football, just watch the trenches. If one team is dominating, they will win. If it’s even there, whoever has the better QB wins. In hoops, it’s usually who is more intense. In baseball, watch the starting pitchers’ 1st inning — whoever throws the ball better will win. These things all determine the outcome early on 90% of the time.
Beavs were asleep the first ten minutes, and that’s when they lost the game.
That’s an incredibly simplistic view. By that logic, Riley should’ve won far more games than he did, since his teams often got out to great starts before petering out in the second half for whatever reason.
As Julia Hatfield once said, “simplicity is beautiful”.
You’re committing a fallacy. Because something is simple it’s false. I’ve watched sports long enough to know and stand by the claims.
P.S. Riley’s teams didn’t “often” come out to great starts. Hello Penn State, Boise State, TCU, et al. In fact, they rarely came out intense. Two games that stood out, in that regard, was USC 2006 and 2008, and both big wins. If you remember the ’08 game, it was attitude/dominating line play, where you knew early on that would be a game.
And you’re committing a fallacy by claiming that your theory is correct because it’s simple. Simplicity and/or complexity has nothing to do with being right about anything.
Watching tons of sports games doesn’t really make you (or me) an expert on anything. There are dozens of factors you’re missing out on (player health, coaching, strategy, half-time adjustments, luck, etc) that go into determining the outcome of a game that go far beyond just having the better pitcher, linemen who set out to punch the other team in the mouth at the start, or having the better quarterback.
Ask Tom Brady how being the better quarterback ended for his team against Denver. Or Cam Newton against Denver, for that matter. For every time the defensive linesmen punch the opposing team in the mouth at the start and manhandle them, there are times when the opposing coach adjusts with extra offensive linemen and shut them down. And that’s just talking about football.
Your theory is ESPN-level fluff. And frankly, I thought you were better than that.
You’re missing so much and contradicting yourself that it’s not worth discussing. The 10% I left is for all the things you mention.
I’m right. Rationalize what you will.
In other words, you can’t argue with my points, so you’re just going to dismiss them. I have no problem with that.
In addition, I would say that the factors I mention are closer to the 90% of cases you claim are down to “effort” and “the first five minutes” than the remaining 10% like you say.
Also, “I’m right. Rationalize what you will.”? Is that a Circular reasoning fallacy I see?
For all the fun you take in pointing out fallacies in other people’s arguments, you sure do seem to make a lot yourself.
There’s no contradiction or fallacy. These are you problems. I don’t have time to bull point each issue for you.
Would 16 or 17 fouls be a healthy amount over the course of an entire game?
First half observations
Cal should be at a 20 point lead,
Too many times going for the head fake on defense which results in a layup.
Drive to the hoop. Draw fouls. Don’t try to shoot 3s to get back in the game.
Zone defense. Double any post players.
Cal should relax a bit. They won’t attack as much. Take advantage.
Force these deadbeats to man up.
Jarmal threw away a pass off a defensive rebound, turned it over before he could even in bound the ball and then took an unnecessary foul for an and 1. That’s 5 points Jarmal gift wrapped. The seniors on this team aside from GP2 look utterly clueless. Olaf gives this team nothing. Not a smart player and provides zero value at this point. Reid is a disaster with his decision making. LMW isn’t playing bad but has proven if he gets extended minutes he’ll struggle. Wayne Tinkle has so little options with this team. GP2 and the freshmen are at least playing hard. Beavers have never played well in 2nd halves on the road the last year+. Time for them to prove people wrong and play with some energy. I’d prefer no Jarmal in the 2nd half.
Jarmal is so unathletic (and I think still not in 100% hoops shape) that he can’t even get his shot off at point blank range many times in the past few games. He had Olaf cause my head to explode. Too bad that one CR guy, Oliver?, didn’t stay around. I think he’s doing well at Nevada as a power forward.
I think I’ve noticed that Thompson Jr. very rarely gives it up on the break and ofter he does not convert against bigger guys. When he got is shot blocked, Payton was pouring in on the wing and probaby could have taken a feed and dunked. Killed the momentum.
Wow, Eubanks D on that play…holy crap. Might be the worst ever in NCAA history! Doing his best Olaf and then some.
I don’t get it? Is it “uncool” to box out? Is it a sign of weakness? Is it more hip to use your athleticism and sky for a rebound? Someone help me here!
I’m not sure this exactly explains it, but one theory I’ve heard is that American Athletic Union (AAU) basketball basically ruins kids from a teamwork standpoint. Basically, AAU basketball (which many kids do nowadays in order to compete against the best) promotes a “me-first”attitude of out-athleting the other team at the expense of learning fundamentals like passing, boxing out, etc. I’ve read stories of European players absolutely baffled at their AAU counterparts when they play together because the AAU guys would drive into like 3 or four players trying to “get theirs” instead of just passing the ball. They just try to get great stats so colleges will notice them instead of learning how to play the game.
Obviously doesn’t explain why the Beavers in particular are bad, but consider it food for thought.
Makes sense, but then how do you explain Olaf?
Between this road game and the one at Oregon, I felt the Beavers had a better chance of winning the Oregon game. They match up better against Oregon than Cal. Cal is too athletic and just attacks the rim at will and has knock down three point shooters. Big game next weekend. Oregon State’s frontcourt is just not good enough to beat a team like Cal. Don’t have the rim protectors nor the toughness to beat this Cal team on the road
Big G is pretty decent. Seems like a better all around player than Olaf not sure why they keep playing Olaf.
Because he clearly has naked pics of someone
Right now the differnece is 12 made FT by Cal to 4 by OSU. That is an 8 pt swing.
I get frustrated with the Beavs because it seems like with Payton’s ability to drive the Beavs would have a penetrate, kick and spot up three game like so many other teams. Is it just not their offensive philosophy?
That foul called on Wallace is the first bad call by the refs, and the Beavs fail to get the rebound…
Tinkle gets fouled on the other end. They call it. Why are so many complaining about refs?
I don’t think fouls called is always a good indicator of a poorly officiated game. They shouldn’t be equal if one team is clearly committing more fouls. Beavs are fouling more. All but that one legit.
The last foul called on Rakocevic was a terrible call too. There was no foul. It has gone from them calling everything to letting them play, now back to calling fouls. That is a poorly officiated game. The difference being that the 2nd half is being called evenly
I hate Pac officials and the first to call them out when they’re botching a game, but I think you’re being finicky just because our team is losing. They are fine, but the Beavs are playing crap D and deserve the fouls. Cal is way aggressive. I saw one clear missed call. The rest were subjective and fair.
What was the one missed call you saw? Was it the one where Wallace went up for a lay-up but lost control of the ball, and instead of calling the travel or the ensuing fumble out of bounds, the nearest player, that never came within two feet of him, gets called for a foul?
It has seemed ok to me. Beavs looked a half step slower when they are playing man to man. I havent’ really seen an WTF calls.
Crap, we’re being setup for heartbreak haha. Seen this before.
not heartbreak when you didn’t expect them to win in the first place? At least the Beavs will have had a better trip to the bay area than Oregon did. I’m ok with a split
At least they’re showing fight now. I like what Big G is doing especially.
Now? Should have been showing fight since the opening tip.
This is about the only time I’d have Olaf in the game. Late when you need a 3 from everyone, including a big. Yet Tinkle has Big G in there…odd.
This loss will be on you cheap bastards not flying me out to the game.
These cheap bastards don’t even donate to AB. Like I don’t have 100 other better things to do!
Explain Thursday then. 😉
Luck O da Tree?
Bruce just sealed the loss in all probability.
College basketball is becoming unwatchable in general. The ticky-tacky handcheck fouls on both sides is not entertaining at all. I don’t understand it.
Better team won. Still looks like an NIT team to me. Too many flaws.
The Beavs just don’t have plays to get open threes.
Or apparently hands to get rebounds.
Olaf is such a pussy
That Olaf poster sums up the whole game, really.
Olaf’s entire career summed up in one dunk.
OLAF!!!!!!!! Foul that fucker like a man…..but of course not. Accept your ridicule then.
Hard to win with your starting 4 and 5 combine for a grand total of two points.
I don’t know about Bruce’s basketball IQ, I guess we will see what next year brings. He seems to just freelance out there.
He is a dribbling ball hog.
I’m kind of surprised WT allows it. I think one of the weaknesses of this team is too much dribbling at times. It’s kind of a NBA offense without NBA talent. I think WT’s strength traditionally is coaching defense and big men.
Wow. Olaf. Just wow. I just don’t get why he is getting so many minutes and starting. He brings absolutely nothing to the table. Zero defense, no rebounding. Makes a 3 rarely. He made one good pass that I remember LMW scored on a back door. Anyone else notice that even when he jumps it only seems he elevates about 2 inches off the floor?
I’m 6’2″ 310 and can jump higher than Olaf!
I knew Lindsay was a poster!
L O L
Yeah, but Lindsay’s only 5’2″…
I think 2 assists. Was he scoreless for the second straight game? Cheikh looks to be in Tinkle’s dog house. Jarmal plays sloppy and stupid most of the time. Eubanks and Big G are raw. Inside presence is a huge weakness, but it should improve over time.
zero points, zero defense, 3 rebounds, 4 assists, 5 fouls.
Eubanks just as worthless. 2 pts, 2 rebounds, 5 fouls. Tres Tinkle had as many rebounds as those two combined. Beavs just don’t have anyone with an inside presence. That needs to be a recruiting priority.
Going forward, more Rakocevic please
Jack, seems to think Ben Kone is the answer, but I think it’s an unknown with his recent surgery. Also, the guy down at the SF JC (Dew?) is not exactly tearing it up….6 points a game. I think he’s more of a small forward anyway. I think the team is stuck with the development of Eubanks and Big G. They should just release Cheikh.
Kone is a part of it. Boxing out does not mean you get a rebound. In fact, if you’re boxing out well your teammates should find plenty of space to grab it themselves, which is what happens.a lot. One of Rakocevic’s fouls was funny. He got called for boxing out someone who was trying to box him out. He turned around and stuck his but in the guy’s hip and started moving him sideways.
Part of the issue seems to be that the team doesn’t really know how to play with an inside, low post presence. A lot of time they need to feed the post, but they just don’t.
How many fouls were called against us? That was fucking terrible. WT should have gotten himself ejected from that game in protest. I was watching the florida vs Alabama game and the officiating was so much more reasonable.
Speaking of FL vs Bama – the production quality of sec network blows away PAC 12.
Didn’t they miss more than we shot?
Total fouls: Beavs 33, Cal 21
FT’s Beavs 11-22, Cal 26-44
Also saw the highlights of the end of UO/Stanford, Sorry but total homer non call there at the end. Dillon Brooks was hammered and no call.
SEC Network is run by ESPN. They have a wee bit more practice and resources.
Right one I’d put this lineup out in crunch time:
5: Big G
Big G is the only decent post player at this point we have. Eubanks is raw while Olaf is trash. The rest of the lineup is probably are 4 best players. You could also take out Duviver and play Eubanks at the 4.
My favorite line ups are anything that doesn’t include Schafty, LMW, or Reid. I used to have a Reid lean, but he pretty much sucked his own sack tonight.
did a 42 to 42 2nd half bring us something sorry per St V day/night with wife. I did not get to see the game yet
Would it be fair to think that they have to go 3-2 to get tourney consideration? So they are going to have to get one more road game somewhere. Not sure how a 1st round P-12 tourney loss would alter their standing. Thought the effort was very pedestrian with so much on the line.
I thought the effort in the second half was decent. They will need a road win either at UCLA or maybe in Eugene.
The effort was decent. Rakocevic gives them a different dynamic with his toughness in the interior. Beavers when they went small used their quickness against some of Cal’s bigger guys to their advantage. Don’t see how Wayne Tinkle can see how the guys played and give Reid or Schaftenaar much playing time next week against Oregon. In a close game near the end, the points those two gave up to Cal and threw away from their own team was the difference in the game.
If the Beavers play small like they did for most of the 2nd half today, they got a shot at beating Oregon and getting their signature win on the road. Reid and Schaftenaar get significant time and they lose.
Everyone assumes the two home games are guaranteed wins.
They also need two road wins.
4 more or they’re probably not in.
They need one more road win, honestly. Multiple Pac-12 teams have got in the tournament with 2 conference road wins. 9-9 conference record and a top 40 RPI and the Beavers are gonna get in
I think I heard no Pac-10/12 team has ever gotten into the tournament with a conference record worse than 10-8. I think 9-9 is still iffy. Really just depends on how many at large bids are taken by teams not expected to win their conference tournaments. I wasn’t expecting the W on the farm. Looking at the entire conference schedule, realistically I’m having a hard time seeing the Beavs move up from where they currently sit in 8th place. Does an 8th place team in a 12 team conference deserve to get in? If they win the last two home games they’re a lock for the NIT probably with a pretty high seed and potentially 2-3 home games (granted they win the first, etc). Did I see some improvement this week? Yes and no. Yes, they got a road win. FT shooting was atrocious again. I’m with angry on this one. With their glaring deficiencies this isn’t a tournament team but certainly NIT worthy. If they do manage to sneak in, they’ll be one and done. All depends on how these last few weeks shake out. Best chance for a road win is at UCLA
I think USC is the best shot at a road win.
much like Cal and Oregon, USC is also undefeated at home. I don’t see that happening
Beav’s have sucked for a long time. They will not get the benefit of the doubt
Wicks FINKLE NEEDZ TA PACK IT IN ON D WHUUUT HE GOT DEM DOIN’ YALL??/??? F’XXXX DIISSSS LOSIN RECORDE SHIZZZZZ!
Really? That’s the best you got?
Finkle is Einhorn?
Einhorn is Finkle !
I want to see Oregon St called on selection Sunday just as bad as everyone else. 1990 was a long ass time ago and I was a freshman in high school listening to Darrel Aune call the Ball St game on the radio during IPS class. I’m just as starved as everyone else. With that said, I also would like to see this program have some postseason success in a tournament not named the CBI. My gut is the NIT this year gives this program a better opportunity to do that. This wasn’t going to be an overnight rebuild. And I think this program is still 2 years away at least from seeing that happen. After this season, GP 2, LMW, Reid, Olaf and Gomis are gone. Only GP2 will be missed. The only remaining players returning from the CR dumpster fire are Duvivier and N’Daiye. I know nothing about the Montana transfer Daine Muller or much about the JC X’fer Dew. The bulk of minutes are going to be going to players who are underclassmen. This team may take a step back next season. But two years from now when the current group of frosh are juniors and the newcomers this next season will have a year under their belts. I think that is when this program can and will make the jump to the upper tier of the Pac-12
I’ll gladly take the NCAA but this is a very flawed team that imo doesn’t deserve it, but I’d take it just to end the drought. They deserve the NIT because that’s the level they’re playing at. If they get into the NCAA it’s going to be because they do the bear minimum and then some other teams flop, so a backdoor entry (TWSS)
I also think we have seen Duvivier’s ceiling. A streaky shooter that plays just above average defense. He still looks like the same player from a year ago. no improvement
He’s slightly better at layups.
Probably misses only 95% instead of 100%.
Both MD and LMW were playing better basketball last year than this one. They both have put in the occasional guest appearance offensively, but mostly have been MIA.
Well, I was wrong about that one! Man, Cal has a few players that are tough matchups! Looked liked several future pros, NBA or elsewhere. Easy see why they haven’t lost one at home.
Civil war is HUGE!
Yeah… Rabb, Brown, Bird and Wallace (who can apparently draw a foul in space better than some who get mugged) will all be in the NBA…. hopefully next year.
And we actually played them fairly well despite no offensive output, kept making runs and playing decent D. There were just some lapses. We took care of what we should have and made a decent run at getting a bonus. It’s not like we got blasted out of the house and just gave up like their Thursday opponent did.
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Here are the first couple of paragraphs.
As for me; my expertise is immaterial to discussion at hand. Question it all you want; I’m providing the links with the findings of still credentialed experts that confirm what I’m seeing. All I’ve done is come out west (against the wishes of my Lady and many other people) to visually verify what Dana Durnford has uncovered in British Colombia with his study. If you don’t know of Dana, you should, he is one of the first to document the mass “species-cide” now occurring in the Pacific Ocean. He was just recently arrested for his forthwith statements against the liars claiming this has nothing to do with Fukushima.
Before he was arrested I began to consider coming back to this area to see if his findings were the same out here. I was a longtime resident on the Central Coast of California and frequented all the major wildlife areas both marine and terrestrial; diving, fishing and just enjoying the huge bounty the sea provided here.
Funny….I don’t see a chart with supposed high counts from a gieger counter?? A fellow that is on another site I frequent, Is a nuke scientist who happens to work with the epa. We had a discussion about this about 3 months ago about fukushima. He said right now you get more radiation from your trijicon night sights than you do from fukushima.
As for tidal creatures not being on the coast right now….they don’t like getting the shit beat out of themselves……with all the big storms that have been hitting the California coast recently. Big waves and tidal sea creatures don’t mix too well. http://titansofmavericks.com
When the above link happens you know the ocean is not “small”. Which coincidentally is happening right now!
Also the supposed “scientist” seems like an upstanding guy! http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/11/17/world/crime-legal-world/anti-nuclear-firebrands-case-heads-canadian-court-death-threats-fukushima-environmental-scientists/#.VsApU5-IbqB
Here’s an article about sea star wasting disease on OPB. http://www.opb.org/news/article/scientists-find-out-whats-killing-west-coast-starf/
Apperantly there have been the exact same die offs happening since 72′. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_star_wasting_disease
Well, I just finalized this scientific backing for the “smoking gun” on why the Pacific is seeing so many mass dies offs, it also covers bees and butterflies. Try eating with no pollinators.
Except the California coast is seeing an explosion of kelp forests and and explosion of animals that eat said kelp forest right now. Marine biologists are hopeful large storms take out some of those kelp beds because it’s bad for other species. Kind of throws a wrench in the whole argument about “everything is dieing”. It’s factually wrong.
You were handed nuggets of gold, and you refused to look at them. The damage is due to bioconcentration of radio-isotopes in Critin, and important organic structural structure in some animals.
The presence of large amounts of Kelp is, if anything, indicative of less stuff around eating the kelp.
Pretend you have intuition and the ability to read facts, and think. I think you deserve a bit of a slapback
SpongeBob’s endorsement of a kelp free diet has had a profound influence on the dietary habits of marine creatures, not unlike that seen with Oprah here on land and the whole gluten free craze.
The kelp industry is enlisting Charlie the Tuna to make some ads promoting at least one daily helping of kelp.
who should I enlist to help make some ads promoting one daily helping of napkins?
Mike Parker of course.
I don’t think he’d be receptive to the idea. I do recall a gal who ate toilet paper on this show called my strange addiction. Maybe she’s the spokesperson our movement is looking for
If trickle down radiation is effecting the lower food chain organisms how is it that this hasn’t happened before? You know…the 105 different nuke tests from 1947 to 1962 in the Pacific Ocean 1700 miles closer to the us coastline. Why is Bikini Atoll wete the nuke tests took place, now thriving with no apperant effects of radiation after taking a direct hit from a nuke? You know I could start a blog with links to science papers that make arguments to show OSU will win the ncaa tournament……. which would be more believable…. but that doesn’t make it true.
By the way that blog you linked is 9/11 truther, bigfoot and alien abduction level bull shit.
You’re comparing those hydrogen blasts which shape most of the contaminated blast into the atmosphere with two massive plutonium meltdowns at BWR reactors that poured radiation into the ocean at a non-stop pace?
edit: and you’re still not going to live on Bikini now
Indeed, the radiation fission products from bombs are actually much more quickly disappearing, like 80 days of Iodine 131, and instead of creating plutonium, it destroys plutonium.
The truth is, radiation from a nuclear bombs is much less deadly than from a nuclear power plant.
Yup just 40+ mega tons of yeild set off in 20+ tests, nope no contamination there. And scientists have said the island was habitable in 2012, so I don’t know why you’re saying you would want to live there. People are living there now.
pouring is kind of a lose term isn’t it? The amount of comtaminated water coming out of fukushima would take more than a week to fill an Olympic size pool. More water pours out of the columbia river on one tidal Flux then will come out of fukushima in 10 years. I literal drop in the pool.
Incorrect, Fukushima was built on a river bed, that river is still flowing…all the water from the adjacent mountains are washing over the coriums and taking the entire inventory of radiation into the ocean over time.
See making of Fukushima here.
Hey don’t bring Bigfoot into this fucker!
My dad graduated from OSU in the late 60s and went to work for the forest service as a wildlife biologist. He retired after 35 years and his last position was endangered species coordinator for the Olympic National Forest.
I’ll have to ask him exactly when but I’m sure it was late 70s-early 80s he was working out of Tiller Ranger District. He found and took a plaster casting of a Bigfoot footprint way up in the old growth somewhere in the middle of a game trail. I saw it when I was young and I know he had pictures of it at one point. The casting itself was at the ranger station.
WFO, losers with no life go out and make those footprints. Many of them come forward and admit it. There is no bigfoot.
here’s my take on bigfoot (as if anyone gives a shit)
Dinosaur bones have been found. Bigfoot have not.
Dinosaurs 1, Bigfoot 0
I tried watching that show finding bigfoot on Animal Planet one Sunday a few years back. There’s an hour of my life I will never get back. Only time we watch it anymore is to laugh at those losers. I can’t believe people waste money on doing that shit. The one guy says “That’s definitely a squatch” after every video sent to them that they go to investigate.
Yeah that’s a theory. I have no dog in the fight one way or the other, other than I’m positive my dad didn’t make it up.
WSN- as far as bones go, finding predator skeletons that aren’t Hunter kills is actually pretty rare. Fossils are a different thing.
WFO, I have a high school friend who’s grandparents lived in north eastern idaho. They would come to a few wrestling meets a year, who swear up and down they have one living in behind their house. I’m not sure I know of a more honest, salt of the earth type couple in my life. The way they talk about it, it’s like no big deal. It’s amazing some of the stories they tell. One involved bigfoot taking winter squash from their garden.
The old man said in early fall squash started going missing from the garden and he thought the deer were jumping their 8 foot fence to get in there. One morning he goes out right at light and one is walking through the gate with a squash in his hand. The old man said as soon as their eyes meet it kind of slunk it’s shoulders, like a dog caught in the act and turned its head to look away. He said he was about 60ft away and just in a normal speaking voice at that distance said, and I quote, “please don’t take all the squash, the wife thinks I’m hiding them from her because I don’t much care for the way she cooks’em, and your gonna get me in trouble. He said the bigfoot looked at him then turned and walked off, it didn’t take another one ever agian. But he did say about a month later an elk hind quarter was sitting on a table off his back porch with the hide still attached. He said he was sure the bigfoot was just “payin’ me back”.
If you dig in farther than the discovery channel there’s some really old stories of camps being attacked and loggers being killed. There’s some gnarly ones from up on bohemia above Cottage Grove. All of it history book type stuff, pre modern commercial hype.
Yeah well, there’s another book out there full of stories that some people believe and others laugh at them for it called the bible. Look, I’m not shunning anyone for believing in something. What you or anyone else believes I really don’t care. Doesn’t hurt me one bit. But until I see actual physical evidence that isn’t bunk or made up, count me as one of the non bigfoot believers.
Exactly, show me bones rather than tell me mystical stories about why bones don’t exist.
All those guys–many thousands–running around the woods in the Pacific NW with rifles during deer and elk season ( for decades now) and not one Bigfoot has been accidentally shot. They must be awfully wily creatures, those Bigfoot-es, er..Bigfeet?.
They have an answer for that, bigfoot never leave a bigfoot behind then crush and eat the bones. At least that’s what I’m told. If I see a live one in the woods I’ll make sure to tell everyone, til then I’m on the fence.
They also resort to mysticism and say the bones disappear, etc. Sad.
I’m not saying Bigfoot exists. I have no idea one way or another. But your assertion that if it’s in a history book but you didn’t see it happen means it’s mythology is a bit silly.
As far as finding bones or seeing an animal during hunting season, have you or anyone you have ever known seen a wolverine? Or come across a wolverine skeleton? No? Well that means they don’t exist to you, even though they are indigenous to Oregon. Again, silly.
one would also think with all the trail cams hunters and property owners put up that a non photoshopped pic would surface? But that also wouldn’t be scientific evidence. Could be another dude in a suit hoax.
you’re going to compare the size and amount of bones in a wolverine to an 8 foot tall (allegedly) creature? Really??? There’s scientific evidence wolverines exist. There isn’t scientific evidence bigfoot exists. I’ve lived in Oregon almost 30 years and I’ve never seen a cougar while up in the hills. But I know they do exist. Why? Scientific evidence
I’ve never seen wolverine bones, but other people have, and they’re in the fossil record. If bigtoot believers want it taken seriously, they need to find bones, not footprints. Have you seen the Les Stroud Bigfoot episodes? In them, a bear double stepped and made a huge print that looked like a Bigfoot…my guess is most are these, or humans out there making the prints.
WFO I found your story.
Whiskey, apperantly bigfoot can see the lazer triggers and hear the high pitch whine of electronics. That’s why they always run when recorded and aren’t seen in game cam pics.
One thing I love more than anything is a good bigfoot discussion. Weather they are real or not, the stories and documentation of stories are older than america itself. Almost every indian tribe has a name for them, which I find interesting because it’s not a new phenomenon.
Many people have seen wolverines in the wild. I’ve seen two over the years, and took a photo of one of them. They’ve gotten shot, gotten trapped, etc. They’ve been featured in nature shows even. There’s ample proof of their existence. The idea that a 7-8′ hominid could exist in the Pacific NW, even in the remotest areas, without leaving absolutely any physical evidence of its existence defies all logic. But, if someone wants to believe in them anyway, I guess it doesn’t hurt anybody.
“apperantly bigfoot can see the lazer triggers and hear the high pitch whine of electronics. That’s why they always run when recorded and aren’t seen in game cam pics.”
Folks have also claimed to have seen them on their back decks peering in windows. Why did their home electronics that emit “high pitched whines” not scare them away?
Sounds like more bunk to me. An alleged creature that no scientific evidence proves even exists, but “experts” that claim to know something about them come up with these explanations. I can make up bullshit stories, false data and claim them to be true also. Scientific evidence. Until then, nope
Oh I know whiskey, I don’t take anything “experts” say at face value. About a year ago I saw an article about how bigfoot is linked to ufo sightings. It was incredible, basically someone just took the plot of Predator and replaced the predator with bigfoot. Anything for a click on the net. And I guarantee there is some asshole preaching that as truth.
No way, predator is true! I saw it on tv. Arnold Schwarzenegger killed predator after it called Carl Weathers. No?
The only person who thinks that movie is real, is Jesse Ventura, and he was in the movie. His gun was awesome though.
Jesse Ventura? LMAO! That dude is nuttier than squirrel shit! Wasn’t he the governor of Minnesota at one time?
So the Jack Links Jerky ads are bogus?
Beavs drop to 38th in RPI after today’s games. Only games with teams with higher RPI are UO and USC.
I guess maybe a silver lining is that once the Beavs fell behind by 15, they did manage to fight back and get within 3 at 59-56. Previously, that would not have happened? Or maybe I’ve had too many napkins and am trying to rationalize. I don’t want to be like Mike
This quote just irritates me……………..
Oregon State will now have a week to recover and prepare for a Civil War rematch at Oregon. The Ducks — like Cal — have not lost at home this season.
“If we get that one, we get one step closer to making it to the tournament,” Schaftenaar said. “That’s our goal.”
How about you worry about playing defense, rebounding, actually somewhat contributing on offense instead of just trying. You’re a senior for piss sakes and just TRYING doesn’t cut it. Right now, you’re a liability, not doing enough on both ends of the floor to justify playing time and talking about what’s at stake. Right attitude maybe but wrong approach. You’re the last person that should be talking about TEAM goals
Was there a warning at the end of the article that states, “The views and opinions expressed by the clog wearing retard, are not the views and opinions of OSU basketball”? Shitty statement after a needed win, I hope Tinkle reams his ass for that. What a douchebag.
Why the hell do reporters even ask Olaf questions? Is he the only one available? And how about a pertinent question like………when are you going to hit an open three that might actually help the team?
As far as NCAA tourney hopes, here’s my opinion (not worth much). They have to split in LA, sweep the Washington schools at home and win their first round P-12 tourney game. 19-13 gets them a 12 seed somewhere. Otherwise, it’s NIT and if they lose all of their remaining games they finish 15-15, we might, God forbdid, start the CBI debate again.
if the Beavs go 3-2 in these last 5 and 1-1 at the Pac-12 tournament they’d be 19-12. In the committee’s eyes really only 18-12 since they won’t count the NWCC win.
Nobody is counting the NWCC game, not even our official site. That 19-12 would be without it. Technically, it would be a 20 win season, but that game wouldn’t count toward any postseason consideration (unless we lost). And it would be good enough to get us maybe higher than the 8/9 seed it would warrant in a normal year.
18-13 puts us on the positive side of the bubble. It gives us a 6-5 record from the start of February, which is important. But that’s a bad position still. That would mean UW could only win one more, SU can only win three, and UCLA wins only three. 8-10 most likely means an 8 seed, and we would likely play SU or UCLA.
Then we need to watch all high-major teams pushing for .500 in their conferences, all top level mid-majors and hope for season champs in the lows to win their tourneys
BZZZZZT. Thanks for playing. Did you fail a basic math class? Currently the Beavs are 15-9. Subtract the NWCC win makes 14-9. 4-3 the rest of the way (a first round conf tournament win, then loss) = 18-12. 14 + 4 = 18, 9 + 3 = 12
No one is counting the NWCC win? Check right at the top of the page
Not counting the NWCC win………………..
I was counting the NWCC win as part of their overall record and being negative and specuating that they lose their first round game, which they could very easity win. My hand wringing comes from watching how inconsistent this team can be and thinking that only Wazzu is sort of a certain win. It just would not schock me to see them go 1-4 in the remainder of league play and then hope for a NIT bid.
Played like a CBI lock yesterday.
What’s wrong with the CBI? Remember when CR used it as a building block in 2009? The program took off after that. OH…wait. Never mind…carry on. JB
PS: I think GP hovering over GPII isn’t helpful. Reminds me of a little league kid looking at dad in the bleachers after every pitch.
I suspect most of the local kids have dads hovering at every game…. GP is just the one they show on TV because people know who he is.
At least he’s not the Don King of father’s like Seths dad.
OT – BASEBALL
Bulletin board material?……..“Two or three runs is all we’re going to need this year because we have the best pitching staff in the country. Our hitters know it, so the pressure is off them.” this per Cole Irvin of the 14th ranked ucks.
Yes, 14th ranked by BA. Wow.
My cousin(inlaw) will be pitching for them this year. I’ll sadly have to root for the ducks when he’s pitching. Hopefully he doesn’t have to face the Beavs often. I’ll be the guy wearing orange and black gear in the duck family section at the civil war(s)
Anybody know if Sabrina Ionescu will be at the BWB game?
Apparently she was at the Duck game against Utah. If she was not at Gill yesterday, that can’t be good.
this from SFgate last November. “narrowed her choice to Cal and Oregon.”
Recent tweet in Jan still has us in the running.
Got to give Olaf credit for consistency. Whether he’s shooting, rebounding or being interviewed, he’s consistently crappy
Jamie with 13 of the Beavs first 27 pts. Mid second quarter, stream is up.
EDIT: It’s in the books now, Beavs win 72-53. Hey gopher, more steps in the TO area! Beavs +5 today.
Harry Palm at cbssports latest bracket has the Beavs in as a No. 8 seed
They need to win 4 of 5 to make it in.
Don’t really car what Hairy Palm says.
Quit bringing logic into a good observation. Harry is a saint.
4 out of 6 could do it. Counting the conf tourney they likely need 19 wins. 9-9 in the toughest conference in the country should be enough. Especially w a conf tourney win.
4 out of 6 would be a first round conf tourney loss. Which would mean the Beavs would have to go 4-1 in these last 5 games before the tournament. And that is not going to happen
If all of this RPI stuff is not bullshit, it apparently is not going to take 4-1. 3-2 wil do it. They could very well be playing the Huskies for a spot. What’s the fewest wins for a major conference at large? I seem to recall a 16 win LSU team getting in one year.
Does getting into the NCAA tourney affect next year’s goals and expectations?
Still upset about cougin it Thursday night in Boulder, cougs remember they’re the cougs and don’t bother to show up in SLC. Losing to Utah by 40
Not a music video but it’s the best I could do on such short notice.
This Year’s Top Ten Country Songs
10. I Hate Every Bone in Her Body But Mine
9. I Ain’t Never Gone To Bed with an Ugly Woman, But I Woke Up With A Few
8. If The Phone Don’t Ring, You’ll Know It’s Me
7. I’ve Missed You, But My Aim’s Improvin’
6. Wouldn’t Take Her to A Dogfight, Cause I’m Scared She’d Win
5. I’m So Miserable Without You, It’s Like You’re Still Here
4. My Wife Ran Off With My Best Friend and I Sure Miss Him
3. She Took My Ring and Gave Me the Finger
2. She’s Lookin’ Better with Every Beer
And the Number One Country Song is…
1. It’s Hard To Kiss The Lips At Night That Chewed My Ass All Day!
David Allen Coe has some pretty good love songs
Yeah, I listened to one you posted a while back. A lot of his songs are a bit over the top for my liking. My favorite of his is You Never Even Called Me By My Name.
Well a friend of mine named Steve Goodman wrote that song
And he told me it was the perfect country and western song
I wrote him back a letter and I told him it was not the
Perfect country and western song because he hadn’t said
Anything at all about momma or trains or trucks or prison or gettin’ drunk
Well he sat down and wrote another verse to this song
And he sent it to me and
After reading it I realized that my friend had written the
Perfect country and western song
And I felt obliged to include it on this album
The last verse goes like this here
Well I was drunk the day my mom got out of prison
And I went to pick her up in the rain
But before I could get to the station in the pick-up truck
She got runned over by a damned old train
And I’ll hang around as long as you will let me
And I never minded standin’ in the rain
And you don’t have to call me darlin’, darlin’
You never even called me, well I wondered why you don’t call me?
Why don’t you ever call me by my name?
This is one of his better love songs
Stanford gags away the game to the Crazy Realtor. Costs the BWB’s sole possession of first place.
Joe Seumalo was hired at Arizona state as the defensive line coach last night.
New band unis in case anyone is interested: http://www.buildingthedam.com/2016/2/13/10985706/new-osu-band-uniform-first-look
Anything is better than the Ducks’ Subway employee uniforms.
Jared and Dana, now that’d be a creepy combo
Now the the band uniforms are bought and paid for, it must be time to change the Oregon State logo again.
Don’t worry, there on velcro for easy transfer.
I hope you are serious. That logo sucks.
Slow beaver week 🙁 At least baseball starts Friday
—I see the O is reporting that Pellum will be paid $10k more than Hoke.
—Also at the O, a story on Ucks planning for Omaha doesn’t mention the bulletin board quote from Cole Irvin which I posted a couple days ago. .“Two or three runs is all we’re going to need this year because we have the best pitching staff in the country. Our hitters know it, so the pressure is off them.”
Might as well have a general thread for baseball going now. Pretty excited for the season to start. Very curious to see the impact of the freshman.
Rodent Bowl, baseball edition, on Sunday in AZ.
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Hillary Clinton hates dog people.
Ted Cruz is secretly a major supporter of Planned Parenthood, and is currently stockpiling all the leftover baby parts. Why you ask: he’s using them to develop a super serum to contaminate the fresh drinking water systems that trick your mind into making him physically appear less creepy.
Do you like baby part stockpiler? Would you like to see one in the White House? I wouldn’t
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He is so creepy. There’s a YouTube video out there of him as a teenager stating his future goals. When I saw it, I thought it made perfect sense.
Who’s not creepy in the presidential race?
It depends on what you mean by creepy, I guess. My definition is when one’s words are contrary to one’s actions taken, that person is able to shrug it off as unimportant.
Since the Rs are a bunch of billionaires running by proxy plus one billionaire who decided to just cut out the middleman, I would say Trump is less so than the others. The Ds are the same with only two people instead.
Now if you’re talking about creepy being a matter of sincere humility and respect instead of just integrity, you have to make up your own mind. Those are intangible and mean different things to different people.
I didn’t see the following in your list: momma or trains or trucks or prison or gettin’ drunk or the new world order or the start of WWIII or aliens or who are the puppet masters or banksters
So does that mean this website isn’t the end-all be-all?
Start of WWIII?
Why would we talk about something that happened 25 years ago?
25 reminds us too much of 28.
25 years ago?
Try 1947, the cold war was ww3. Although it was a proxy, and compared to ww2 small scale, it’s still global.
That would make the Gulf War the start of WWIV. It makes sense they would roll out of detente and right back into some other scary idea-war.
You forgot about strained vulvas.
I’m an expert in all vulvas.
Small world. I am also an Amateur gynecologist.
Careful. I believe most mammals have vulvae. At least half of them
Lindsey’s eating habits
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