10.Mar.2016 Oregon State vs Cal

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8:30ish start, but it will probably be a little later than that. The game is on Fox Sports 1, so hopefully we get a break from Bill Walton. I usually like him, but that “Conference of Champions” stuff was SO annoying.

I guess some people are still questioning if the Beavs are in the NCAA…I think it’s “probable” at this point, to the point I feel confident saying they’re in, but like some have noted, these are humans making the selections and they have all kinds of bias and hangups that we can’t know.

The only think that pissed me off about last night was Tinkle coughing all over his players. I really hope guys aren’t sick today…

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  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    FIRST! Go BEAVS!!!

    I’m hoping the team will play lights out defense.

    If they do …….. 🙂

  • ObjCritic says:
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    OT: This detracts from March 10, 2016. Lawmakers declare today “Mighty Oregon” day to celebrate 100th anniversary of Oregon fight song.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/education/index.ssf/2016/03/lawmakers_declare_march_10_mig.html#incart_river_index

    Do some real work dammit.

    • scotty says:
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      Your tax dollars at work. At least get Phil Knight to pay for that (on second thought, he’s probably already bought the politicians)

  • Bill says:
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    There’s no question the Beavs are solidly in right now.

    The only thing that could knock them out would be teams outside the bubble winning the auto bid in the A-10, AAC, ACC, Big East, Big 10, Big 12, SEC, and the PAC12. And it would have to happen 5 times for the Beavs to get knocked out.

    I see them playing loose tonight with nothing to lose. Trust what got them there and play hard. Last night was a bit white knuckle but ASU helped by playing pretty bad.

    • issaquahbeav says:
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      Props to you for the correct usage of ‘loose’ and lose’ in your sentence.

    • scotty says:
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      With the money at stake and ref shenanigans, I wouldn’t be surprised if a whole lot of teams not already in the tournament won their conference tournaments

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    Go stinky beavs!

  • DB says:
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    Yup, I wasn’t too happy with Tinkle touching players hands and yelling/talking/coughing at them. Someone said they thought it was norovirus because of how sudden it happened after he ate, but if that was the case I can guarantee he wouldn’t have even been on the court last night because he’d be glued to a toilet. It sounds like regular old Influenza – super contagious. I am worried about our players.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      What will suck is that it will incubate until next Thursday. I think Idaho scrubbed a golf tourney because they were stuck in bed due to it.

      • helmsley says:
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        I suspect it is super contagious – which means the bug will incubate for about 7-10 days and, depending upon individual immunity, hit then. I hope the players are overdosing on vitamin C, taking some zinc and drinking gallons of water. Really dumb of Tinkle. He has good enough assistant coaches.

        • Beavlover69 says:
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          Beav paranoia is at an all time high right now. We’re trained to expect something weird to completely fuck up the season. Luck O the Beavs PTSD

        • angry angry says:
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          Hey just in time for their first tournament in 26 years!

        • Gman says:
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          Yes, illnesses are not to be taken lightly. It’s not an overreaction to think he is putting the team at risk for being infected whether he is around them at practice or the game.

    • scotty says:
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      Bet GP2 will have some sick dunks

  • Beav in TX says:
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    UW up 10 on the ucks right now. Will that hurt or help our RPI (or does it even matter at this point?)

    • Jack Jack says:
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      It helps slightly. UW’s RPI will go up more than NIkegon’s will fall, and we are 1-0 v UW while dropping one to Nike. Overall not much effect, though.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      Go dawgs….take them down on mighty oregon day ..

  • bleedorange says:
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    What happens if huskies win the tournament tho.

  • wrigg3 says:
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    Latest bracketology has the beavs playing in the east versus Seton Hall.

    • wrigg3 says:
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      Correction: the south as a 10 seed

      • DB says:
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        It must have changed within the past hour because Oregon State is no longer on the bracket, but they are listed as a bubble team.

        http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology/_/iteration/237

        • wrigg3 says:
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          That looks to be an old bracket. There’s a time stamp of February 22nd on that.

        • ian12171@comcast.net says:
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          yes if you go up to the date it says Feb 22. but you can scroll it to todays date and OSU is in last byes part.. meaning they are the last four teams in before the first four..

          • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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            Sooooo who’s going to be the first guy to start spamming this guy’s email with porn?

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            Sooooo who’s going to be the first guy to start spamming this guy’s email with gay porn?

            FTFY

          • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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            Thanks, I was going to say that but wanted to go easy on a fellow ABer. I’m way to nice.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            I’m not above juvenile behavior but I don’t have time to spam email nor would I have any idea how to do so without sending a return email address so Ima pass

          • scotty says:
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            And of course that MUST be the poster’s real email address because there are no lies on the internet, amirite?

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            why don’t you email and ask

  • NiceBeaver NiceBeaver says:
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    Anybody here in Vegas at the MGM? Throw some coins in the old Sigma Derby machine if you are. Always a good time if you can find an open spot.

    • issaquahbeav says:
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      Is that the mechanical horse racing game?

      • NiceBeaver NiceBeaver says:
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        Yes

        • issaquahbeav says:
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          It’s always packed. I know there is another one at The D Hotel on Fremont Street…

  • NiceBeaver NiceBeaver says:
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    Scalpers? Last time they staggered the release of tix a little

  • scotty says:
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    Did we win yet?

  • Homefry Homefry says:
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    No Walton tonight…

    • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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      The FS1 announcers will have to do as a substitute. Quick, someone snag them some ganja!

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    USC has rallied to make things interesting vs Utah.

    SC got within two but Utah was able to hold them off 80-72. OSU/Cal winner gets the Utes Friday night

  • angry angry says:
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    First impression:
    Cal’s the better team. Beavs will lose.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Olaf cannot guard Ivan Rabb

    After thinking about it can Olaf guard anyone?

    • True Beavieler says:
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      That douche couldn’t guard an open door with a loaded bazooka

  • OSU82 says:
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    Anyone got a live stream link that’s working?

    • thembeavers thembeavers says:
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      you will not need it as this game maybe over already the Beavers camw out flat and Cal is just feeding off of it

  • angry angry says:
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    Beavs gettin’ man handled. I wonder if they’re sick.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Cal looking unreal right now. This is starting to get out of hand early

  • Corey says:
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    Does a bad, bad loss tonight affect our tournament chances at all? I figure we’re in as of now for sure, but if this becomes a 20-30 point blowout, that recency effect could play in, couldn’t it?

  • Dansen Dansen says:
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    I think it’s safe to say that Schaftenaar’s play at UCLA was a once in a lifetime occurrence, not a momentum going forward one.

  • Beavlover69 says:
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    Welp that was quick. Now we wait until Sunday….

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    Cal’s 1st round NBA talent really exposes our athletes.

  • Hellobeavers says:
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    I’ll gladly trade away Payton after this year since it means Reid and Olaf are gone too. JR has touched the ball twice and fucked it up both times.

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      Reid needs to go to the tourney so he can trip that Duke player. OSU = instant people’s champ

  • ean says:
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    I don’t get why Bruce hasn’t played more this season. No reason LMW or Duvivier should have got minutes over him.

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      Agreed, if he keeps up the pace down the floor like the 2 he got fouled on, he could get a lot of guys in foul trouble. He’s going to be very good I think, going forward.

    • Hellobeavers says:
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      Did someone say on here a couple months ago that Bruce would be a transfer candidate since we have ST and another guard coming in? I hope not – he looks like he’ll turn into a really good player.

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        He has a 6’8″ wingspan too, so much upside.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        I figured he might due to lack of PT but he’s been coming on lately and single handedly keeping the Beavs in this game. His finally earning PT

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      Duvivier has been atrocious in this game

      • Jack Jack says:
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        His D was more than solid. Everyone on Cal’s roster is bigger and more athletic than everyone on our side except GP2. He packs a ton of strength to counter that off the ball and to make chesting look like nothing when on ball. But he didn’t have enough confidence to take the three or so open looks he rarely got on O.

  • ean says:
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    Stevie Thompson should be shooting like 30 shots tonight.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      He was most of the scouting report. They weren’t going to let him loose. That’s why Bruce and GP2 kept getting mismatches.

  • Dansen Dansen says:
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    Bruce singlehandedly keeping them in it.

  • True Beavieler says:
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    First of all, because I’ll literally never get to say this again: OLAF WITH THE BLOCK! (Worthless like always otherwise).

    D-Bruce had his breakout game in the 2nd half last time vs.Cal. I wouldn’t take him out the rest of this game. Playing like he belongs and that the magnitude of the game doesn’t hinder him at all

  • angry angry says:
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    Bruce is pretty much filling in Tinkle’s points.

  • Corey says:
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    That clip of Reid and Olaf fucking up a rebound with a complete lack of effort is the epitome of their careers. I cannot wait until they’re gone.

  • Dansen Dansen says:
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    What the bloody hell? Reid and Olaf just stand there on an easy rebound opportunity.

    • scotty says:
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      Maybe the person writing his birth certificate was dyslexic, and his name was supposed to be Loaf

      • WFO WFO says:
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        Haha I know a German dude named Olaf and we call him Loaf.

        Shoe seems to fit here.

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    Great were going to continue with the Reid/Olaf shit show.

  • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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    Reid is atrocious. Lazy rebounder. Lazy defender. Selfish on offense. Graduate already.

  • Hellobeavers says:
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    Classic Olaf/Reid. Critical rebound opportunity for the taking if they want it. Neither of them seemed to. Does anyone else see how bad Reid is? I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. He’s worse than Joe burton.

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    Yeah wide open olaf. Briiiiiick

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      he’s conserving energy to brick 3’s by not playing defense.

      Play defense? Olaf ain’t got time for that

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    Can someone other than Gary please grab a rebound? That’d be great.

  • scotty says:
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    Is Mandy at least in the audience looking good as usual?

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      I swear I saw her yesterday, I chalked it up to the shower curtain comment, and how much I’d like to see that.

    • based20 says:
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      Who is Mandy?

  • angry angry says:
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    Beavs have to be happy with -4.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    down 34-30 at halftime is a gift. Especially with that godawful start. Still in this thing

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    Derrick Bruce is carrying the team right now. Being down 4 right now actually isn’t that bad, all things considered.

  • Hellobeavers says:
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    the most successful post up play we had was GP. He has better body and ball control than our bigs. Have him try that again. Rakocevik needs more minutes in the 2nd half.

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      Think about that. Of course a 6’3″ guard has more body and ball control than a big. I’d love to see more iso post-ups too. But the zone would kill it pretty quickly.

  • True Beavieler says:
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    This is even a bad game for Reid O’laf

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      right now a bad game for almost everyone. Bruce has half the Beavs points and ST jr with 7. No one else doing jack shit on offense.

  • Bill says:
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    This is right where I’d hoped they be. They are better at chasing the lead than trying to hold onto it.

    Turnovers are hurting them a lot. 9 turnovers is pretty much their game average.

    They need to attack more. Cal only had 4 fouls in the first half.

    Bruce isn’t going to be able to carry the team the whole game, STJ and GPII need to step up and help him out. Eubanks with zero is a big problem.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Best part of that first half? No desire to jam ice picks in my ears due to having to listen to Bill Walton

  • OSU82 says:
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    The starting five scored 12 pts that first half. Being down only four is good, under those circumstances.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Olaf, Eubanks, Reid and LMW are a combined 1 of 11 from the field and LMW and Olaf are missing wide open shots left and right. Beavers easily could be winning this game despite the slow start. Derrick Bruce has been incredible lately. I’m not sure if they should even bother playing Malcolm in the second half. You get this win and you’re a complete lock for the NCAA tournament and wouldn’t have to play in a play-in game. Gotta find a way to get this W and if Bruce has to play the entire second half, you gotta do it. GP2 post ups are needed more often. He scored easily on one in the first half and he’s comfortable there. Let Bruce run the show and get GP2 his looks on postups

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    BASEBALL: Halftime OT diversion…….Friday’s game will stream at OSUBeavers.com, 5:35pm.

  • OSU82 says:
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    Bruce on the bench to start???wtf,.

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    Bruce is the only one not afraid to shoot.

  • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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    Bruce has a look on his face like ” I knew I was this good. Coach just hasn’t given me a consistent chance.”

    I can here Jack saying “I told you guys Bruce was this good, he just hasn’t really gotten a consistent chance.”

    Wish we had one more year with gpII. Those 2 are a fun backcourt.

    Funny half. Feel lucky to only be down 4, but also feel like we should be ahead. Cal makes a lot of stupid shots that have no business going in. Could be a fun 2nd half.

    GO BEAVS!!!

  • angry angry says:
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    Payton laying a giant egg.

  • Calibeav says:
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    Terrible lineup to start the half by Tinkle..

    Duvivier
    Olaf
    Shay

    All liabilities

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    This is bad basketball. Disappointing.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Unsurprisingly, Wayne going back to the lineup that led to the 17-5 deficit, allowed Cal to go on a run to start the second half

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    N’diaye is one of the worst seven footers I’ve ever watched play the game.

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      And Gomis is the worst 6″10er I’ve ever watched.

  • Dansen Dansen says:
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    Why is N’Diaye in there instead of Big G?

  • OSU82 says:
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    We just don’t have enough front line fire power on this team. The guards are good, but you gotta have some offensive muscle in the paint.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      That was Tres’ job. None of our others can make space in the lane right now. Drew and Rakocevic will both be much better next year. Even N’diaye will be better. That will be a great group of bigs next year with Tres back and Kone coming in. And the year after will be that much better.

      What we saw last night was Tinks throwing our kitchen sink of bigs at Rabb. He’s the best player in the Pac, but he’s spent the season as a somewhat shy frosh. If he puts the team on his back, Cal can make a deep run.

      And I will not be sad to see him go to the NBA, where he will be a star.

  • True Beavieler says:
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    N’Diaye is Bill Russell on D compared to Olaf and Reid

  • OSU82 says:
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    Bruce is feeling it. He should not see the bench again this game.

    • GreatWhiteHunteri just wish says:
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      I just wish he’d play se defense.

  • angry angry says:
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    That’s what we need from Payton. Drive and lead the team already. Way too passive.

  • Ackrite says:
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    This game changed when the beans switch to Man, they couldn’t rebound out of the zone. Bruce going off doesn’t hurt but this team needs to play more man going forward in the tournament

  • True Beavieler says:
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    Is there any way that ‘offensive foul’ on Bruce wasn’t BS?

  • Dansen Dansen says:
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    I remember reading an article (I think it was from OregonLive) where Bruce’s AAU or high school coach said that he would be the best PG in the PAC. If tonight is a sign of things to come, it could be very true for the next 2 or 3 years.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      Elvert “Kool Aid “Perry

      • angry angry says:
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        Speaking of Kool Aid…it’s Nebraska’s State drink, no joke. And they sure are drinking it…

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          those inbreds love some sugary drinks. Iced tea, kool aid, mountain dew. Maybe that’s where all their missing teeth come from? Throw in a cousin and some roofies? Paaaartaaaaay!

          Insert Deliverance theme here

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        Haha, I completely forgot about that bit.

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    Big G had Thompson wide open and missed it. Ugh.
    Won’t show up in the boxscore, but that kind of [missed] opportunity can determine games.

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    Drew Eubanks just can’t play tonight. He’s lost out there. Picking up fouls like crazy and has no idea what to do on offense

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    Eubanks is turning into reid/olaf this game.

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      he’s been pretty worthless tonight. Except for putting whoever he’s guarding at the FT line. He’s got that shit down to an exact science

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    Bruce!
    He’s forcing some shots for sure, but nice 3.

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      Only 5 left on the shot clock on that one.

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        I meant the layup right before that, but he strikes again with another ball hog move just now.

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    “Who are Derrick bruce?” No fucking shit.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Olaf finally makes one. Even the sun shines on a dog’s ass sometimes. Needed that one though

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    GP2 owning the glass with 13 rebounds. Add in 10 points for another double double. Wish he’d make more than 62% of his FT’s

  • angry angry says:
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    This is an entertaining game.
    Captain obvious moment.

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      pleasantly surprised after falling behind 17-5. We’ll take it. Still in this thing with a shot to win

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      Aye, aye, Cap’n, and making a good impression on the selection committee.

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      They are fighting for it….that’s the difference from some of the shit shows this year. And Bruce hitting everything. He’s raising the morale.

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    I’m so glad we’ve found our true point guard of next season in Derrick Bruce.

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    With Bruce emerging, I don’t think there’s any worry about replacing GP II’s point production. Replacing his rebounding though…

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    Bird the Bear playing with 4 fouls.

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      Need to figure out how to get him fouled out.

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        Aye, Cap’n

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          Payton or Bruce drive with the matchup. Even Malcom could do it. Just get him out of the game.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Someone maybe want to guard Jabari Bird outside the 3 point arc????? Dude’s made 5 out of 7

    Or maybe foul that fucker out???? He’s got 4

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    what is Cal’s shooting % ?. It seems as though they score every time they go down the floor.

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    Now Bird sits……..saving him for the final 1.5mins.
    EDIT: And he’s back with 1:21.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Wayne Tinkle putting Jarmal and Drew on the floor is basically throwing away any chance of a win

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    So Bruce is good, but a ball hog…

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      Hard to pass w everyone usually just standing around too much

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      He’s a ball hog? led the team in assists.and he had the hot hand. who else was scoring?

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    All she wrote…..

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    Please go away Jarmal

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    Tinkle is pretty bad with rotations.

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    Raab is destroying our bigs.

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    Our bigs with 5 points in the game, total

  • Houston Beavs says:
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    SSSHHIIITB YALL WTF FINKLE BE DOIN>???

  • Houston Beavs says:
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    F DIS LOOOZZIN AZZZ COACH YALL

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    WE AINT SPPOSED TO GO OUT LIKE DIS YALL DIS TEAM GONN A GETTING ROLLED NEXT YR FO SHOOOWWW WTF I DUNN BOUT DEM FINKLE CALLZZZ YALL

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      Where were you yesterday? Beating your baby momma?

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        he was too busy snorting meth to be bothered

  • angry angry says:
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    This loss is actually good if we’re already in the tourney…more rest.

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      Now we just wait and see who got the Tinkle cooties.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    went toe to toe with a team projected to be a 5 or 6 seed. Sucks to lose but they battled. Beavs are in but we’ll find out fo sho on Sunday

  • JD says:
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    Cal has been one of the hottest teams in the country. Beavs have to gain some confidence from knowing that they can play with anyone.

  • Houston Beavs says:
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    COACH ZO STRAIGHT DDOOOOMINATED FINKLES DOWN DA STRETCH DIS GIMMICK MONTANA BS AINT GON CUT IT IN EVEN DA PAC 12 YOOOOOO

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    If Oregon State indeed makes the NCAA tournament, there needs to be a ton of Bruce and not much of Duvivier and Eubanks. Beavers starting Eubanks and Duvivier in both halves got them behind big early in both halves. They completely outplayed Cal aside from those two stretches. Hopefully Tinkle realizes this and starts his best lineup

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      Re: Eubanks, it depends on what the bigs are like on the other team. If they’re a little soft, Eubanks will have a good game.

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        The thing is, Eubanks is struggling more on offense than defense imo and that’s not saying he looks good defensively, he is just that lost on offense. He can’t score on the block and can’t catch passes and looks like the game is too fast for him. He should just come off the bench. In the NCAA Tournament, you can’t roll out a Duvivier-Payton-Thompson-Olaf-Eubanks lineup. They’ll play a good team and they’ll kill that frontcourt. I’d give Rakocevic the starting center spot and see how it goes. Olaf and Eubanks together is just a mess on both ends. At least Rakocevic defends and can score occasionally.

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          Big G actually looks like a center and plays like one to some degree. I don’t know why he wasn’t developed to his fullest once Gomis was out. Eubanks can run the floor and get points against soft teams, but he was out of his league tonight.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            So much this. Eubanks needs to hit the weight room hard this offseason. He got eaten alive by the better teams with more physical low post players in conference play

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            Both are still frosh. We got some relatively good play out of both this year with that in mind. Check back this time next year. They’ll be that much better.

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    Really glad to see the Beavs fought to win instead of just sitting back and being content with their position. Bruce will be less of a ball hog next year, hopefully, and the graduation of players like Schaaftenar and Reid should be addition by subtraction.

    It’s going to be great for the team to get some REAL post-season experience.

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      Bruce only took 11 shots and tried getting teammates involved. Don’t see a guy that’s a ball hog. When a guy has it going like that, I want him shooting a ton

      • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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        He did do a good job getting teammates involved at times, but he also had moments where he held on to the ball too long. He’s young, so he’ll get better.

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          A lot of that was Cal switching the pick and roll and having a SF or PF on him, so they isolate Bruce against him and it was Bruce’s job to take him 1 on 1. That’s why it looked that way. Beavers don’t have a lot of options offensively and he was on fire, so I get why that was the plan on a lot of possessions.

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            That seemed to be the play in the 2nd half. Get a guard on a forward and use the mismatch.

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            Take what they give you.

    • angry angry says:
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      Hey Ran, I called the winner in the first 4 minutes…again. 100% so far, with my ESPN level “observations”…

      • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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        For someone who comes across as so assured he’s right about everything, you’ve gotten pretty insecure about this, haven’t you?

        Anyway, you weren’t 100% . You got UCLA wrong (instead of predicting the Beavers would win, you said it didn’t look good for them), not to mention there were games like Washington where you didn’t even post until the final minutes, so I can’t even judge if you got those games right or not. Even if you were 100% right, the sample size is too small for me to take it seriously.

        You should test your predictive powers on the NCAA tournament. See how many wins you correctly predict by watching just the first five minutes of every game you can catch.

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          I don’t remember making any prediction in the UCLA game under 5 minutes in.

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    HATES TO BE SAYIN IT BUT DIS TEAM WIT OUT PAYTONII IS WASH STATE YALL> DEEEZ PLAYAS GOT NOOO GAME

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    whatever the Beavs fate I hope that first round matchup isn’t against a team with a strong inside game.

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      Exactly……and I don’t know what the hell CR was thinking back in the day…..Reid, Olaf and Cheikh are three of the most unathletic big men I’ve ever seen. I hope Kone is the answer, but I think it’s going to take more than one strong, athletic forward.

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        Cameron Oliver was one recruit that Craig did manage to get committed that is a great player. Oregon State with Oliver at the 4 would probably have 3-4 more wins right now if he actually came to Oregon State. Oliver had 26 points and 15 boards today in the MW tournament. He had more rebounds than Oregon State’s entire frontcourt had total points tonight. He would have been the missing piece

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        Only 6’8 tho. A little undersized doesn’t mean everything tho. That is what i see as a weakness next year not that it isn’t this year.

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          Did Oliver just panic when he saw the Beavs returning roster last year? I think there was a WT comment at the time that he wanted Oliver on the team. In hindsight, not a good decision. He would have made the Beavs better and garnered more exposure in the P-12.

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        If only we had someone like a Tres Tinkle on our team.

        Oh well.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Beavs are the lead story on ESPN’s college hoops page if anyone gives a shit

    http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    RPI only dropped to 33rd. In good shape but some of these other games still to play will affect the Beavs final RPI. Some teams ahead of UCLA (103rd) and ASU (100th) losing to get them back into the top 100 would help. Nevada (114) and UCSB (95) also still alive in their conference tournaments. If Nevada can beat San Diego St tomorrow that would be a good RPI boost. See what can happen when you don’t consistently schedule non conference cupcakes????

    http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2016/rpi-live

    But hey, if Texas Tech is on the right side of the bubble with an RPI of 34, the exact same overall and conference records, beavs should on the right side as well

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      SDSU has an outside shot at an-large. Similar situation as Valpo and Monmouth. Better for the Beavs if SDSU wins their conference tournament.

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        SDSU has no chance if they don’t win their conference tournament. Resume is average at best. 1-4 against top 50 RPI teams, 3-3 vs 51-100 RPI teams. They also have a very bad loss to San Diego. They lose to anyone in the Mountain West tournament and their RPI will drop far enough to put them squarely on the outside looking in with fellow brethren Valpo, Monmouth and St Mary’s. Not good news for a mid major program. Only Fresno St and Boise St have an RPI in the top 100 (78 and 99) and losing to any of the other 3 teams left would be devastating for their chances. Boise St was kicked to the curb today by Colorado St. The MWC is a one bid league this year. Whoever wins their conference tournament is in.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Something else to consider since SMU and Louisville are not eligible for the NCAA tournament is that doesn’t take up two at large berths

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    Don’t think it was updated after the Beavers loss tonight, but Lunardi has the Beavers in as a last 4 bye and all the teams close to the Beavers either lost or have yet to beat anyone of significance in their conference tourney. If UConn loses to Cincinnati and Michigan loses to Indiana later, the Beavers are a lock to make it imo. Only way the Beavers don’t make it now is if something extremely unlikely happens and like 5-6 teams go on crazy runs out of the Big Ten, AAC and A-10 and SEC. Feel good about Oregon State making it, I just hope they can avoid a Tuesday or Wednesday game in Dayton

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    That game was…expected. I remember how Angry hoped we would stalk them and stay in it, and I actually think that would be a good strategy. Cal just made a couple buckets at the end to put us away, but it coulda went either way. That corner 3 Mathews hit to put them up 6 at the end when we had them on the ropes was a dagger.

    But great game. And we showed that we’re a tourney team, in spite of some of our glaring deficiencies, we can play with anyone. We had problems with interior defense, and Rabb played out of his mind. I saw his post-game interview, and I really hope he does well in the NBA. Trading Ben Kone for Jarmal hopefully works out. I’ll take Kone’s growing pains and freshman mistakes over Jarmal tripping refs and throwing up hot garbage at the rim any day of the week.

    One of the most annoying things that our bigs do as well is that they show SUPER hard on pick and roll, like why is CND or Big G out at 28 feet? You should only hedge so hard. He created 2 turnovers that way, but most of the time a good ball handler is gonna shovel the ball to a wide open post under the rim when he rolls correctly.

    I also have questions about our offensive efficiency, like that has to be cleaned up. I think it gets better when we have Tres back and Stevie is in, but I’m wary of relying on guys’ offensive talents like that. We’re fine now, but if we’re not gonna play hard nose defense then I need to see something more than “let’s dribble around and see what happens”. We saw flashes of it with Bruce penetrating and dumping it off, but our bigs have horrible hands.

    Man. I’m just hoping for good things on Selection Sunday. That’s all that matters. Are we in or not. Please let us be in.

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      Oregon State’s defense was pretty good once they went to the small lineup. Frustrated Cal for long stretches. Cal hit some seriously tough threes. They’re incredibly talented and not much can be done when they’re hitting contested shots. The issue on offense is right now they have 3 good offensive talents without Tres. Bruce, GPII and STJ can get to the rim and Bruce and STJ can hit threes, nobody else can do much of anything offensively. Makes the Tres injury a huge blow. When you don’t have bigs who can get buckets and when the role players like Malcolm and LMW aren’t making plays, it will come down to the 3 main guys making something happen.

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        Jabari Bird really was the stopgap every single time we would make a run. He’s a good player. If we would put together a couple baskets and Bruce would hit a three, he’d come right back and hit one of his own off dribble kick or kick out from the post every single time.

        When Eubanks gets his foul situation under control, he’s gonna be the real deal. I still think he’s NBA draft worthy after his 3rd year. We need him getting buckets in the paint to fill out the offense. But you’re right, we just don’t have consistent offensive threats all over the floor when Tres is out. Gonna be nice having him back, I think the future is bright even without GP2.

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          I agree we look like a young team with a lot of room for growth. It will be addition by subtraction next year. We will definitely miss gp2 mostly his rebounding cuz we suck at that lol. However all of our freshman even Eubanks (although he hasn’t ) show that they can put up 20 pt games and play solid defense, as well as maintain composure under pressure. My big concern is having another solid big man next to Eubanks.

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          I am not sold on Eubanks as a NBA prospect. He is only 6’10” and while he can jump, he really doesn’t have the hips, lateral quickness or the offensive game for the 4 spot in the NBA and at 6’10” you need to be a real bruiser to play the 5 in the NBA (or have a 3 point shot). IMO he got exposed bad last night by NBA level talent. He has only really impressed against inferior athletes, he has a long way to go. I like the upside there and if the game ever slows down for him he will be a solid piece of the rotation. My guess is he is here for 4 years then goes on a European journey. A lot can change in 4 years. I think Bruce is the guy on the roster with the most NBA potential, a lot of teams go crazy over combine numbers, and Bruce checks a lot of the boxes for a NBA PG physically.

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            He’s also just a freshman who only played organized basketball for 2 years in high school. Everything with Eubanks is about potential. Length and athletisim aren’t teachable. Boxing out is.

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            Yeah… he could be a monster if he learns to play in big boy land. He has all the physical gifts to be dominating inside if he could just feel what’s going on around him instead of darting his head this way and that trying to keep up with the game.

          • angry angry says:
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            Eubanks biggest problems are immaturity, low IQ basketball, and confidence. It all leads to inconsistency. Some of those are fixable, at least to a degree.

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            I still like Eubanks, though I agree a lot of his shortcomings are mostly due to being a freshman and the game being played at light speed compared to what he came from in high school. He needs to adapt to it & do some hard work on his game over the summer. His numbers actually compare pretty favorably with the freshman stats of players like AC Green and Charlie Sitton. Those guys didn’t come in and dominate as freshmen, yet still turned out to be pretty fair D-1 players. I think Eubanks will too. I will predict OSU fans will hate to see him go after his senior year. He just needs some help down there in the 4 spot.

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            Don’t get me wrong I like Eubanks as a great college player I am just not sure he has the skills and size to leave college early for the NBA.

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            Not to say he is great now but has the upside to be great.

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            Meh… NBA draft worthy after three says to me he would get looks at the end of the 2nd round and up his stock if he stays. At least, that’s how I read it.

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            Yeah, I could see him eventually sneaking into the 2nd round conversation. Guess NBA draft worthy is open to interpretation.

    • AKBeaver AKBeaver says:
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      That was Bill that said he hoped we would stalk them instead of trying to lead wire to wire. That almost came true last night.

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        Stalk them not spot them double digit leads to start every half. It was more like frantically trying to keep up after sloppy starts to each half

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    Well I can’t say that was a bad loss. Cal made shots at the end to win the game. Turnovers in the first half cost them a lot of points. They only had 4 turnovers in the 2nd half.

    But there’s a lot of areas to improve. Mostly in the post. I mean Payton out rebounded them all combined.
    Eubanks – What happened? Just disappeared. Out of position many times for rebounds. Big G is light years ahead of him on boxing out guys.
    Big G – Needs to work on his post game more. Dribbled right into the double team.
    Olaf – If you’re going to foul someone, foul them hard so they don’t get the and 1.
    N’Diaye – Obviously will get exposed if left in too long which happened because of Eubanks.

    All of them dribbled too much when the got the ball in the post. Resulted a few turnovers. Should be one or two dribbles and then make their move or kick it out. The guards didn’t help by moving to get open.

    It was a strange sight to see the Beavs play 4 guards at once. But it worked. Would rather not see Olaf as the one big in that lineup though.

    I’m going to say for now, Bruce’s game is an outlier. But it’s nice to see that he has a lot of potential. He wore down a bit at the end. This game will get people pretty excited for next year.

    I’m confident the Beavs are in. Likely as a 9 or 10 seed. Hopefully not the play in game.

  • Bill says:
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    Teams you want to lose today to either solidify the beavs spots by taking out other bubble teams, cinderellas or improve seeding.

    1. UConn – Loss will knock them out of any bracket that has them in it. A win will put them in. Cincinnati won’t be knocked out even with a loss.
    2. VCU
    3. Michigan
    4. Ohio St
    5. St Bonaventure
    6. George Washington
    7. Florida
    8. South Carolina

    Teams to win –
    1. Kansas
    2. UC Santa Barbara – only if they win the autobid.

    Not sure how I feel about Tulsa. They can help the RPI but they could take an at large bid away. But because the RPI change wouldn’t be that much either way, not rooting for Tulsa.

    • DB says:
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      Thanks for this list. I just saw that Michigan won.

      OSU is putting on a Selection Sunday event at 2:30 in the Reser club level. Does anyone know if this means they are 100% they are getting into the tournament? It would be very awkward to go to that and they don’t make it in. Talk about a kick in the gut for the team.

      • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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        No, but you can probably buy overpriced beer.

        • Jack Jack says:
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          This is an interesting thought thing.

          Why the hell do I need more alcohol while I’m in public? I like alcohol. I don’t need to project me using alcohol. I see no reason for me to project to the public that I am drunk. Enough people know me that there are some truly awesome stories about waking up in trees and such.

          What you call PC might really be what others tell you is PC… or something. But you think a label needs to be applied.

          Why?

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    Nicebeaver or anybody else who was at the game. Give us a report, thoughts, how was the atmosphere? It sounded lIke our fans were load at the end, did we travel good?

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    * loud

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      There was a fair amount of Beaver fans, about as many as Cal had. There are a ton of Arizona and Utah fans. Not very many fans from anywhere else.

      They way they had it setup the beaver section was next to the cal section it was weird. But we sat behind the bench 20 rows up and there are fans from the other schools so they just watch and don’t root during the game

      • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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        Most the others schools have small students sections behind the band. I didn’t see any beaver dam kids.

        • PdX says:
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          I sat right behind the band with my 4 friends for the cal game. There was about 10-20 of us that stood in the “student section”.

          Gone every year it’s in Vegas. Literally the entire city of Tucson always shows up. This was by far the most beaver fans that have ever been.

  • Jack Jack says:
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    Think about it this way:

    Look at what we had last night. Now replace Olaf with Kone. Replace Reid with Tres. Replace GP2 with Jaquori. And replace LMW with Dew.

    And we get to see what Manuel can do after a year in system.

    Daniel can technically apply for a sixth year, and would likely get it. But I think he moves on with his life.

    So we get net gains for next year. And that’s with us getting a lot younger. But all our frosh now have one campaign under their belts. And they don’t know anything about OSU not going to the post season.

    They look like they don’t ever want know that. This team will be very good next year. And it will be scary good after that if Tinks keeps up with the recruiting. I imagine the team will recruit itself soon enough.

    edit: I don’t know what the rules are for graduate players. It just occurred to me that Daniel, having graduated, isn’t really subject to APR like the rest of the team. So how would a sixth year be viewed by the NCAA when two of those years are as a graduate? Again, he likely moves on. But it’s an interesting situation.

    • Bill says:
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      Hopefully this year does open up recruiting. In power conferences, to stay on top it means the coaching staff is able to consistently land solid 4 star recruits who can come in and make a big impact right away.

      The incoming class isn’t really much to get excited about. It’s really middle of the pack when compared to the rest of the conference. To get to the top, they’ll need to step up the recruiting. Landing Tinkle and STJ were nice but need to follow it up with highly rated guys outside the family tree. Some may say McLoughlin is a 4 star guy but to me he’s a solid high three star.

      There’s still a scholarship or two remaining for the spring signing period. Maybe they’ll save it for a SR grad transfer who can play in the post.

      • Jack Jack says:
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        I’d rather Daniel get his medical exemption and play a sixth year than hire a merc.

        And while the coaches’ sons canard plays, the future is quite bright with the other players who were not 4* doing what they’re doing. You are vastly underrating the incoming class. And there will be another.

    • Jared says:
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      Starters will be: Bruce, Thompson, Tinkle, Kone and Eubanks
      6th and 7th man: Duviver and McLaughlin

    • Beavlover69 says:
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      Next year looks very promising especially since Bruce is starting to show what he can do when given opportunities (been asking for that since January). The main concern is how well Tinkle and Kone recover from their fairly major injuries. I think they still need another playable big man as Kone is only 6’8″-6′-9″. We need a 6’10” guy who isn’t a complete project to really take the next step IMO.

      • ean says:
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        I think Kone has the size to play center in the P12. He has great athleticism, broad shoulders, plenty of muscle and a long wingspan. DeJuan Blair is shorter than Kone and Blair dominated the Big East.

        • Jack Jack says:
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          I don’t know what the hang-up is with Kone. This kid will be awesome.

          I’ve compared him to Buck Williams. But that’s an athleticism and D call. If you watch his O play, he most resembles Tim Duncan… right down to the little slouch he does when he thinks nobody is watching.

          I believe you all do not know what we have in that young man for years to come. His play will be the I-told-you-so of whatever I’m saying now plus the future.

          Or maybe I’m wrong.

          edit: I’m not wrong. I wasn’t wrong about all the frosh we have now. I’m not wrong about the incoming class. I have yet to see the following class, but I hope, for my viewing pleasure, that I get to see Ethan Thompson filling it up.

          And then I hope for someone to explain tome what “it” really is.

      • angry angry says:
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        Yeah, like mentioned above Oliver would have been so sweet. They’re be very good right now instead of a flawed team.

  • DB says:
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    Lunardi now has us still as a 10 seed, playing Notre Dame (#7 seed) in St. Louis in the Midwest bracket.

    http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

  • NiceBeaver NiceBeaver says:
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    USA today predicts the Beavers will take on the Cocks in an 8/9 matchup playing in OKC. Beavs as an 8 seed seems unlikely, so maybe they just were going for the obvious laughs

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2016/03/11/ncaa-tournament-bracketology-projecting-field-68-bubble-teams-vanderbilt/81639524/

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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      Beavers always win out over Cocks. Eventually they get too excited, throw up from overexertion, and flop over in exhaustion. Game, set Beav’s.

      • Jack Jack says:
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        Really?

        We have to give in to that joke with just pathetic language?

        Beavers cover Cocks always. ALWAYS!

        With that baseline in mind, there’s not much anyone from South Carolina can say that is relevant to real life.

        But we’ll see if anyone is even paying attention to me saying a whole bunch of stupid.

        I guess more fun will be how the supply-side morons make their words less stupid in an incremental way… because they were stupid then… and they might be stupid now… and yes, they are….

        Dammit!!!!!!!!!!!

        You got me all caught up in what could be instead of reality. You can all go fuck yourselves.

      • Boba says:
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        After said exertion, they sometimes need to smoke a cigarette which is also not conducive to good play.

        • Jack Jack says:
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          I wish sometimes that I still smoke.

          I apologize for bringing any politics to this side. I’ve tried to stay away from that here. It’s hard because Nikegon is a political creature. But I try to abstain on this site… sans the asymmetrical outbursts… which I might do every now and then.

  • DB says:
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    Bracket experts, I have a question. Do we need USC to lose to Utah to give us a better shot at getting into the tournament? I’m thinking yes since USC is also a bubble team on Lunardi’s bracket, but I wasn’t sure if them losing would make us look worse.

    • DB says:
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      Woops, scratch that. They already played and lost (didn’t watch the game last night). So since they lost, is that better for us or not?

      • Bill says:
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        It doesn’t matter. None of the remaining pac12 games will change anything for the Beavs. The threat is from other bubble teams which have been losing today.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Stop!

      \We’re in.

      Done.

      Now it’s just a question of winning the next game… for six games in a row.

  • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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    UA vs UO…can’t decide who would be the bigger assholes. Between the coaches, the players and the fans…Oh, and Walton calling the game…can only hope for a blimp vs MGM Grand catastrophe.

  • NCAA Run says:
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    Have a spidey sense that Seton Hall or Notre Dame is likely our matchup. I like both since a 10 seed is better than being in the 8 or 9 slot. Slightly prefer Seton Hall in Oklahoma City by a hair. Beavs could potentially face Oklahoma later in that bracket. Beavs are worthy of the 10 seed where odds are better of a deeper run.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Fucking UCONN and their penchant for not winning or losing in three or less overtimes!

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    Seton hall is about to down #5 Xavier. That should move them up in the bracket. I don’t think we will see them.

  • Jack Jack says:
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    I’ll drop this here.

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