12.Nov.2011 Cal State @ Oregon State

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  • HopefulBeav says:
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    Wow no Roberto Nelson in the starting line up. What are the blue jerseys for?

    • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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      They’re for their annual N7 game which is to honor Native Americans.

  • DU1266 says:
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    I believe the blue jerseys are for Burton (Native American representation).

    • mckalk says:
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      Turquoise is important in some Native American cultures as I understand.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    I thought I just saw Burton sink a 3. I must be hallucinating.

    • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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      You did. Shot looked good. Maybe he’s added a shot now.

      • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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        He has to add that shot if he wants to play at the next level.

  • HopefulBeav says:
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    Wow Starks is really shooting the ball well. Our defense is looking pretty impressive too.

  • angry angry says:
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    Beavs look great so far.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Nice to see the Beavers knocking down their free throws early.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    What I love so far is the ball pressure and the Beavers aren’t allowing any easy passes. They’ve got their hands on so many passes. Really love the effort on defense.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Beavs look vastly improved.

    Also, we should just wear those uniforms at all time, they’re sick.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Moreland tried to steal a rebound from McShane, then airballed a FREE THROW. Sick.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    AIR BALL! AIR BALL! arggg

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Brandt isn’t going to be learning the American game if he’s on the bench.

    • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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      He’s just getting some rest. You can’t play him all game.

      • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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        CR sat him down as soon as he got his 2nd foul and that was a long time ago. imo

        • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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          He has 2 fouls. Why risk getting a 3rd foul and taking away his aggressiveness in the second half for fear of picking up another foul? The decision by Craig was smart.

          • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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            imo they don’t need Brandt in order to win. OSU should win by 20+. OSU subs are much better than the other teams 1st string. Brandt needs the minutes.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    We’re getting killed whenever they run a Pick and Roll, and we’ve turned the ball over a few too many times, but the team is otherwise running smoothly.

    I wish Roberto would be more active in the offense though; either he plays too passively, or other people are trying too hard(Starks).

    • HopefulBeav says:
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      I don’t know what to think about Nelson right now. He seems like he’s not really sure what he’s supposed to do when he’s out there. Granted I’m no basketball analysts, but it seems to me whenever he’s out there he’s just kind of standing around waiting for someone to pass him the ball while everybody else is moving around. Maybe this type of stuff has to do with why he’s not starting?

      • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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        Roberto has to be more selfish. He’s too passive. He’s too good of a player to just stand around and be passive on offense.

        • OneEyedKing says:
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          It’s not that he’s just standing around, he tries to facilitate a lot. But we really need him to be more selfish and create shots. Right now, Starks is really the only one that will do that, and he’s just worse at it than Roberto.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    This cameraman is OBSESSED with showing every girl in the crowd.

  • HopefulBeav says:
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    OT USC is dominating UW. Kind of nice since I think UW fans are some of the most obnoxious fans in the conference.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    TOOOO many fricking cast off 3’s.

  • mckalk says:
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    Be nice to see them gat a 20 point lead before halftime.

  • AfghanBeav AfghanBeav says:
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    Who is Eric Mooreland? He is all over the boards.

    • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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      He was on the team last year but hurt his elbow about 5 games into the season. He’s really talented. Only a redshirt freshman. Incredibly athletic, plays solid defense and is very versatile. He has both small forward and power forward skills. He can defend wings and big guys. In another year he will be REALLY good.

  • AfghanBeav AfghanBeav says:
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    I’m just listening to the stream while i do some homework, and have heard his name a lot already.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Our fullcourt man press, and occasional trap, is just wrecking them(although the trap doesn’t seem great, it’s working).

    Roberto with the entry pass inside that was too flat and stolen. He really needs to be more aggressive, not just looking to pass all the time.

  • HopefulBeav says:
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    Announcer just said Beavers are winning the points in the paint 18-6. That’s so nice to see.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Roberto passed to Jared, and then did not even look back as Jared wanted to kick it back to him quickly. Exactly what I’m talking about.

    At least he led that fast break nicely.

  • angry angry says:
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    Fans need this…need the hoops team to be good.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    McShane has been in, out and back in again, all the while Brandt sits. WTF?

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Roberto has an issue between the ears right now. He is overthinking everything. He needs to just play some ball and stop worrying about everything. He’s way too passive.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Roberto penetrates, was met by one man near the paint, and Roberto jumps in the air and tries to pass it to the corner, easily stolen. Horrid play.

    He REALLY needs to just be more aggressive. So many of these forced passes are TOs. But it looks like coach Rob subbed him immediately for it, good.

  • angry angry says:
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    Anyone know if Cal St is supposed to be good?

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      I believe I heard the announcer say Cal St basketball doesn’t belong to a league.

    • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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      They’re not supposed to be good. New coach, were 9-19 last year. They do have some decent players and some pretty good shooters.

      • mckalk says:
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        Wasn’t this Barnes guy, the same one who coached at Mississippi?

        • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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          Yup. Rod Barnes. Coached at Ole Miss for 8 years and Georgia State for 4 years.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Great pick and roll to end the half with Jared and Joe.

    Why can’t we just run that, instead of our terrible “Pass around for 30 seconds, then turn it over because we pass too much” offense?

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    The three assistant coaches nearest coach Rob are all white. Ummm, seriously?

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    A lot to love in the first half. Offense is looking good. The pick and pop/roll defense needs to be improved. Some guys have been slow to close out on these plays. Once they get that corrected they’ll be pretty good defensively.

  • mckalk says:
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    It would be nice to see a complete blow-out in the 2nd half especially considering the Beavs LOST their N-7 game to Texas Southern last year.

    • steveEbeaver says:
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      It would also be nice if they continued to shoot FT like they have in the first half. Too many TOs though (10)

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Men’s basketball halftime show > Football halftime show

  • HopefulBeav says:
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    It’s easy to say Cal State isn’t any good… but remember last year we were battling and even losing to these types of teams in the beginning of the season. We’re doing what we are supposed to do against these type of opponents and that’s extremely encouraging.

    • OneEyedKing says:
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      Indeed. In sports, any little team can get lucky and beat a powerhouse, so a 17 point lead at the half is something I can’t complain about.

      Just cut the TOs down on offense, and fix the PnR defense, and we’re ready for the Pac12.

    • mckalk says:
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      Two years ago, a pretty mediocore Beaver team beat CS-Bak 73-39, so I don’t consider these guys even a decent mid-major, but you’re point is well taken, OSU lost to Utah Valley St. last year. There are better tests upsteam anyway.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Jared blows the dunk. That hurt my soul.

  • beavers4life says:
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    That was sloppy

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Brandt just penetrated from the top of the 3 point line, past two players, and hit the layup+1. Nice work, to go with his good defense and rebounding.

    • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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      That’s what makes Brandt frustrating. He’s capable of those type of plays a lot. He’s incredibly skilled. Once he stops overthinking things he plays some good ball. Would like to see more of that.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Their trap caused Jared to throw the ball away, TO. Bad work.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Joe inbounds the ball straight to a CSB player, then fouls him. Sick work.

    This press is murdering us right now, this is very embarrassing.

    • helmsley says:
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      Robinson being outcoached? CS Bakersfield coach has quite a history.

  • HopefulBeav says:
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    Damn 16 turnovers already? That’s not good.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Now Roberto gets trapped in the corner and travels. He was getting roughed up a bit, but still, this is insane.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Brandt fouls so he gets jerked again. Burton flying around out of control. Damn this looks familiar.

  • angry angry says:
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    Uh oh.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    PnR, Burton is SOOOOO SLOOOOOOOW and his man easily scores.

    Burton with like 2 TOs, a few that could have been, and now his terrible rotations.

    Beavers up 11, this is ugly.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Beavers have lost their focus and are playing careless. If they hadn’t thrown really poor passes this one isn’t even close. Burton was playing so well but the last 3 minutes he’s played pretty badly.

  • mckalk says:
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    Why is it so hard to be a freakin’ Beaver fan?

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      Your question made me laugh for a minute and then throw up a little in my mouth.

      • mckalk says:
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        They just don’t do anything easy anymore or else I have less patience.

  • NCAA_viOlation NCAA_viOlation says:
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    Fyi- TCU is tied with Boise St in Boise at end of 3rd quarter. Its a pretty entertaining game on Versus.

  • mckalk says:
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    7 Nation Army doesn’t have quite the same power when it’s done by the horn band.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Every foul is a FT for the next 12 minutes. Sucks to be them.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Roberto needs to get things figured out.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Roberto with a few bad plays in a row, and after he fouls on offense, Rob takes him out.

    Figure out how to fix that guy, because he looks broken.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Is CR insisting that Burton take a lot of those fall away jump shots in the key?

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Burton isn’t tall and has no hops. He has to do that just to get his shot off.

    • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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      Yup. He needs to create space between him and the defender. The shot seems to be quite effective as well.

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      Yeah, I understand that but I don’t understand why he’s taking so many of those shots. Stick to the rebounding and defense and leave the shooting to the guys who can shoot.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Flagrant Foul by CSB, dude hit Moreland in the face on a fast break.

  • beavfan4 says:
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    can someone gie me a link to the stream?

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Aside from a bad 3 minute stretch Burton has played really well. I’ve seen a lot of important with him. He’s developed a little bit of an outside shot and his passing is much better. Not seeing those poor passes that have no chance like we’ve seen the previous two years. He’s also playing solid post defense. Very encouraging.

    • helmsley says:
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      for this game at least, Burton’s free throws are going in.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    CSB fouls on literally every shot, this is kinda ridiculous.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Too much passing, then Starks forces up the 3. Classic Princeton offense.

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      and if it’s not him shooting the 3 it’s a big man who should be nearer the basket.

    • OneEyedKing says:
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      And another.

      Starks LOVES to play his street ball, jacking up terrible shots.

  • mckalk says:
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    Too many turnovers, too many fouls. A really sluggish, sloppy 2nd half.

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      The don’t look very well coached do they?

      • OneEyedKing says:
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        Well, the offensive system lends itself to these terrible situations late in the clock, so in that sense, no, they are not well-coached.

        But coach Rob is making good substitutions, and players look better than they did last year, so in that sense, they are well-coached.

        • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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          I’m not so sure about his substitutions. How good his decisions are will be more evident once OSU is playing Pac-12 quality teams. Against this team any and all substitutions look good.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Started the game 4-5 from beyond the arc, since then I think 1-9 with Starks 1-7

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Burton apparently thinks he’s a scoring machine and thus must take his ill advised shots.

    • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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      There was nothing wrong with that shot. He’s been effective inside. Every coach is fine with that shot.

      • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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        Except for the fact that he’s taking that shot way too often.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Burton has hit a three and is making his free throws. Never thought I’d say that.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Roberto left his feet and tried to pass again, TO.

    I can see why coach Rob is getting after him.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    That give and go with Moreland and Burton was beautiful.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Cooks with a great return, and Riley immediately sprinted over to give him some love. Some passion!!!

  • angry angry says:
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    Beavs got sloppy and there’s a lot to work on, but overall this was a good performance, and I’m just glad they got the win.

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      As bad as this team is if OSU hadn’t gotten the win CR should be fired immediately.

  • HopefulBeav says:
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    Our line sucks.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    That was pathetic. Their dline is living in our backfield already, and our classic “Need 7 yards, throw it 2 yards and pray the WR can do the rest” offense doesn’t work. As usual.

    And then we settle for three(which we somehow made). Gonna be a long, bad game.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    86-62 win. Too many turnovers and the pick and roll defense wasn’t too good but I think they’ll improve in both areas. They got the win and it wasn’t really close in this one. I saw a lot of improvements in key areas. Nice to see. They got West Alabama on Monday night. Looking forward to that one.

    • HopefulBeav says:
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      Lots of should-be-wins before we start Pac 12 play. It’d be nice to go into conference play with 9 or 10 wins.

      • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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        Yup. I think they can win 10-11 games in the nonconference. Next Wednesday I am a little nervous about Hofstra. They’re really underrated. That’s a good squad. They’ll test the Beavers. I think we’ll learn a little bit more about the Beavers in that game.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Great game from Jared and Joe, good game from Moreland and Brandt, bad game from Roberto.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Mitchell with the interception, then Cal tries to steal it, then Mitchell RIPS it away. Nice work. Take some lessons, Wheaton.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    First down, run up the middle. Classic Riley. Totally didn’t see that coming.

  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    Went to the 1st half of the basketball game at Gill, then came home to watch the football game on TV.

    Loved what I saw from Eric Moreland at Gill tonight. He needs to hit the weight room hard, and needs to put on 20-30 lbs of muscle. If Moreland does that, he can be a beast next year. But even as a beanpole he’s already a good rebounder and defender.

    Challe Barton looked better than expected, too. He could be a good backup PG for Starks.

    Roberto Nelson looks nervous out there — lacking confidence. Frequently looking over his shoulder at Coach Rob (either seeking approval after good plays, or waiting for the hook after bad ones…) The jump-pass turnovers are awful — those are high-school level mistakes that need to stop if Nelson expects to get lots of playing time this year.

    More man-to-man defense, which is good to see. But the offense still looks stagnant for the most part — wish there was more movement, more hard cuts, less standing around on the perimeter.

    • mckalk says:
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      I was struck by the standing around on offense, that’s not going to cut it against better teams. I know it’s early,but Nelson is a head scratcher. He continues to be a turnover machine, showing no real improvement in his decision making. Still no reason this team can’t get 10 wins in the non conference just with speed and athleticism and keep improving as they enter league play.

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