02.Feb.2012 Basketball: Oregon State @ Colorado

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JackBeav:

Has anyone else noticed that we get the tougher of the two match-ups to start each and every weekend in league play thus far?

It doesn’t get any easier tonight. The Beavs get to face off in Boulder against a pretty good Buffs team. As many of you know, I thought Wake Forest’s stupidity two years ago was CU’s gain. Jeff Bzdelik is a horrible coach. Instead of CU fans griping about another pathetic season under him, they get a coaching star on the rise in Tad Boyle. And he has done wonders with his team in the short time he’s been there.

There will be little fooling the Buffs with the 1-3-1. They tore it to pieces last year in Boulder. And a whole game of it will likely result in the same. It will be effective when mixed with predominantly man and 2-3 sets. The Beavs defense looked a little renewed at the TTATT on Sunday. So it will be interesting to see what our boys can do against a team who takes care of the ball.

The Buffs are led by three seniors, Carlon Brown and Nate Tomlinson at G and Austin Dufault at F. Other than that, they are young with soph F Andre Roberson and frosh G Spencer Dinwiddie filling out the starting five and frosh G Askia Booker being the primary threat off the bench. They have three other bench players who will take about 10 minutes each. But they are not the primary focus.

Brown, Dufault, Roberson and Dinwiddie are the scoring threats along with Booker at the bench energy role. Tomlinson is the facilitator. And every one of them will launch the trey, with Dinwiddie and Roberson being the most likely offenders.

Their weaknesses are three-fold.

Outside of Roberson, the team is only good at rebounding when the guards get involved. But Roberson is a good one on the boards, and their guards will try to get involved. Since they like to run a pressure defense with a transition game, they play into the Beavs hands should they over-commit to the glass.

But they will likely need to over-commit, because they are very undersized. They play bigger than they are, but only one big routinely comes off the bench to spell two already smallish bigs. And their game takes a serious hit when their primary six are not running the court.

And other than Tomlinson and Dinwiddie, they’re susceptible to turnovers. Brown will dish as much as he drops. But they run such a frenetic pace that they make some interesting mistakes when pushed to the edge.

All in all, I think this should be one of the better games in the Pac this year. It should be on TV for pure entertainment value alone. We have two teams who like to take chances on defense and run it out when they can. I want to say the Beavs should win this game by winning the equalizer, the half-court set. But last year’s blow-out is still fresh in my memory.

This is a “prove it to me” game for the Beavs.

Until further notice…

Buffs 84 – Beavs 78

Angry:

I agree with JackBeav on this one–should be a wild game. Would just like to add that the win at Oregon was a step toward winning this type of game. That is, the Beavs finally closed an away game, and they may finally understand what it takes to win road games. They can't just show up, and now they know that. I expect a motivated team that is high energy from the get go. They'll be right in it, but will they play enough defense to win it? That's still the struggle.

From what I gathered, the game will not be televised, but it is available on Colorado's website (for a fee).

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  • RipCity808 says:
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    With first row sports being seized, here’s a new live sports stream site: http://www.vipbox.tv/sports/basketball.html

    Using the site, I’m watching the Duke-Va Tech game now. Not the clearest, but at least it works. The OSU-Colorado game is listed at 18:00. Huge road game. Let’s make it 4 in a row. GO BEAVS!

    • JD says:
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      Thank you kind sir.

      If the Beavs can control the defensive boards and limit their unforced/dumb turnovers then I think they have a good chance to win. They can’t give up extra possessions.

      Huge game, a win tonight and they should have a six game winning streak heading into the UW game at Gill.

    • mckalk says:
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      Seems like a lot of stuff to download, does it work?

    • Jack says:
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      Is the link working?

      I’m getting a link not working at the moment message.

      • mckalk says:
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        Yeah, I can’t get it to come up and then a bunch of other stuff asking for downloads. I guess I’ll get to the radio broadcast at KPAM.

    • StarcraftSquall says:
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      So far no luck.

  • FatDog says:
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    Jack’s observation about us getting the tough games first appealed to my paranoid hate-mongering for UO. They always seem to get the easy path. I don’t think it is a coincidence. It is like the civil war where they talked us into playing them on a Thursday night on short rest while they had a bye week previously. I think they have a special secret arm to their athletic department that is devoted to messing with schedules to screw us over.

    • slamadam says:
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      pretty sure they both had the previous saturday off if youre talking about 09

      • StarcraftSquall says:
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        What he means, is that Oregon State had a bye the week before the Civil War, scheduled initially on the previous Saturday. Oregon did not have a bye. Oregon lobbied to get the game moved back to Thursday night on ESPN. They required Oregon State approval to do so. BDC granted it, thinking only of the money. I have no doubt if the schedule had stayed the way it was originally scheduled, the Beavefs would have had an advantage and won. This is still a sore point with me, because I feel caving to Oregon’s request cost us a trip to the Rose Bowl.

  • Beavbuff47 says:
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    I’ll be at this game! For beavs game in a while…should be a good one

  • Jack says:
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    Where’s Warren? They’re picking on him over on PO.

    I’d have your back Warren, but I have never had an account over there. i would likely just get myself banned.

    If anyone has an account over on footballsfuture.com, that’s where he hangs out a lot (as beavsandpatsfan).

    But to someone who has an account over there:
    Please make them stop… politely, of course.

  • Beaver Byte says:
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    I am hopeful for a win. Since we got over the road hump in the Civil War, I think OSU can beat Colorado tonight in a close game. We need to maintain defensive intensity and mix in our defenses strategically. Jared again needs to be a leader and the entire team, including coach, needs to communicate and be engaged from start to finish.

    Oregon State @ Colorado:
    http://beaverbyte.com

  • HopefulBeav says:
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    Is that link not working for anyone else?

  • Quatre Quatre says:
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    Link doesn’t work, and I’m not finding a link on Firstrowsports. Too bad.

  • HopefulBeav says:
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    Damn looks like we’re stuck with GameTracker.

  • JD says:
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    Too many turnovers

  • mckalk says:
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    I listen to Parker and watch Gametracker, but it’s a pain because of the delay the radio broadcast uses.

  • JD says:
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    This sucks that its not on TV. Listening to Parker it is hard to tell the quality of shots the Beavs are missing.

    • mckalk says:
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      It’s on a pay webcast with CU TV, but nobody has a feed.

  • mckalk says:
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    Am I the only one who get’s tired of the Beaver big men going 1 for 2 at the line everytime? Brandt should be better than 64%.

  • mckalk says:
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    Utah ahead of Ducks 34-28 late in the first half, now that would be funny.

  • angry angry says:
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    Defense and rebounding killing the Beavs again.

  • beav4ever says:
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    Beavs getting out rebounded badly. 15-8

  • JD says:
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    Giving up way to many layups

  • angry angry says:
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    I’ve heard enough.
    This one’s a loss, and I can’t listen to Parker whine anymore.

  • JD says:
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    Make that 2-8 from the line. Awesome.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    OSU is getting out rebounded and yet Colorado is at a height disadvantage.

    YIKES

  • HopefulBeav says:
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    Well this is embarrassing.

  • mckalk says:
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    Hard to say without seeing it, but it sounds like a shit effort in a key road game against a conference leader. No toughness, I’m sure the “altitude’ excuse is being loaded up.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Switched over to the Colorado radio broadcast just before half-time. I believe they said this is the most Colorado has scored in the 1st half this season.

    Argggg

    P.S. This is also the 2nd biggest halftime lead Colorado has had this season. Their biggest lead was against Utah.

  • mckalk says:
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    Nice way to start the second half, Cunningham misses two free throws, CU hits a three. It’s such a mental game.

  • Timber! says:
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    How is Ro-BUST-o playing?

  • Timber! says:
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    this is completely on the players lol

    • mckalk says:
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      Had a chance to show that they are tough. I think all of us could accept a close loss, but this is so typical of CR teams.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Hey Bobeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    Is it time for a pay raise and a contract extension? Maybe even a life-time deal?

  • mckalk says:
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    Utah hanging tough, but trail the Ducks 58-55 with 7 minutes left.

  • mckalk says:
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    Parker is such a fool sometimes, “The Beavs are doing a good job getting the ball inside”….who cares, they are down by 25 and obviously doing a hell of a lot of things wrong.

    • Timber! says:
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      he’s as bad as all the Blazer homers on Comcast that tippy toe around McMillan

    • angry angry says:
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      He’s the reason I turned it off.
      If the Beavs are losing, he’s the worst.

      • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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        Fwiw here’s the Colorado broadcast: http://www.iheart.com/#/live/381/?autoplay=true

      • mckalk says:
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        He has been insufferable tonight. I think he’s freaked out by the weather. Only way to describe him is “whiny little bitch”

      • Bob says:
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        Nothing wrong with Mike, it’s the basketball team that sucks.

        • tim318 says:
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          Right on, Bob.

          You free-loaders trying to find pirated feed need to chill out about Mike Parker. His job is to call the game and accentuate the positives (as few as they may be) in his game calling. He also may be at a disadvantage in basketball as he often doesn’t have a color commentator.

  • helmsley says:
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    WBB – Beavs killing Buffs 33-17 halftime

  • mckalk says:
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    Unfortunately, Ducks pulling away from the Utes…up by 9 with about a minute left.

  • VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
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    wow…. who are these guys? A loss is one thing but a 30 point thrashing. I really felt they had turned the corner last week. I’m not sure they will even beat Utah.

    Football signees adequate. No immediate game changers. We’ll have to rely on a young team maturing. I can’t see much beyond 6-6 maximum.

    Renew football tickets and send money to BASF. Don’t forget BASF funds support baseball and all the non-revenue producing sports. JB

    Duck beat Utah,,

  • angry angry says:
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    Is it over yet? Final score?

  • beav4ever says:
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    Pathetic performance.

  • Mike says:
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    I was at the game. Beavers got outhustled big time – from the beginning. They just didn’t show energy, no one wanted to shoot and we didn’t keep pace. It was terrible.

  • Jack says:
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    Zoiks!

    Last year redux. But we were closer this time.

    CU under Boyle would be a Final Four team every year if they played the NCAA Tourney in Boulder. To be honest, I had this one circled as a loss from the beginning of the season.

    Crap! If you add the mens and womens scores together, CU wins by 2.

    Glad I turned it off when CU got up by 10. Those guys are like sharks smelling blood when they get a double digit lead at home.

    AND… still no DB coach….

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      “…Last year redux. But we were closer this time….”

      What stings about this one is the talent on this year’s team is much better than last year’s. At least it’s supposed to be.

    • mckalk says:
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      Yeah, somebody mentioned the “big announcement” was the change of radio stations to KEX, the article was in the Oregonian today.

      • Jack says:
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        I still have tingles over that announcement.

        Wait… it’s just cold in here.

        I’m just gonna go turn up the heat now.

  • slamadam says:
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    definitely a disappointing loss, but you had to kind of see it coming. they handled the altitude horribly last year, a day less to prepare because the civil war was on a sunday, colorado’s been great at home, yada yada yada. granted it would’ve been nice if they weren’t beaten SO badly, but saturday is the real test of the road trip. it would give them 15 wins (they won 11 last year and 14 the season before) and it would be just their second pac 12 road win. not to mention utah isn’t a very good team at all. the win over the ducks was great, but this was a whole different set of challenges. perhaps is the pac 12 was loaded with NBA talent like in some years their home court advantage wouldn’t be such a big deal, but it’s not, so it is. the pressure is on to win saturday though.

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      “The pressure is on to win saturday”.

      I agree but when I think about it I’m struck by what that means. This team is playing so poorly that there’s pressure on them to win against a team that they should crush.

      What the heck is that saying about the team and the coaching staff? Sounds to me like it’s saying THEY SUCK!!!!

      @#$%^*&!!!

      • Timber! says:
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        Ro-BUST-o Nelson will have to put his NBA career on hold and lead his team to another stellar night from the free throw line and some nasty defense. Oh and another embarrassing loss.

        • GoBeavs90 says:
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          You’re so creative. You seem to root for the Beavers to lose. Not sure what the point of that is.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    The effort really sucked last night. The players played like shit. With that being said, the goal on these trips is to split. Sweeping the 2 games is great but you want at least 1. Beavers win in SLC and it’s still a successful road trip. I expect the Beavers to play hard and give full effort and beat the Utes by double digits. They split this trip and the Bay Area trip and win all their home games and they go 11-7 in conference play. 21-9 record heading into Pac-12 play. I would be ecstatic about that.

    The Buffs are ridiculously good at home. I knew this one was a loss. Hated the effort but I figured Colorado would have a great game. The Beavers will return the favor in Corvallis.

    • mckalk says:
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      Yup, they cannot lose in SLC, but a win is not a given considering that the Utes beat WSU and ASU at home. If the Beavs play indifferent defense again and give a couple of no names some confidence it will be a close game. Also, I want the Beavs to come out tough and pissed off when they play the Buffs in Corvallis, no excuses.

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Can we Scott coach the men’s team and have CR be the CEO recruiter?

  • ean says:
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    I hope Coach Rob was taking notes on how to play defense.

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    What is the deal with Beaver teams starting games asleep?

    Any word on MR’s double secret probation type hire? They have selected Popes in less time!

  • Jack says:
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    GoBeavs90 has it right. This was circled as a loss from the beginning. For whatever reason, the boys just can’t do anything in Boulder. But then very few teams can. It’s a mental thing.

    I have a loss in one of the Bay Area games as well. But we get the favorable scheduling on the backside with the easier of either team to start each series. If they go down to Maples with an attitude, they might run through the Bay Area and beyond.

    But first, let’s see if they play the pouting game at Utah like they’ve done after all the other first game road losses.

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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      Cu b-ball has sucked historically. What has happened?

      • Jack says:
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        Tad Boyle

        I wish someone would hire him away to another conference. But I think he’s going to be at CU for a while.

        Here’s the stupid thing. Ron Wellman at Wake fired Dino Gaudio because there was discontent about Wake losing their first game of each ACC tourney that Gaudio coached. And they only made the NCAA’s twice in those three years, with one win over Texas in 2010.

        So Wellman announces that Wake will proceed with a national search for a new coach, but in less than a week he hires his good buddy Jeff Bzdelik, a lousy coach who gets to make millions year after year for no discernible reason. So Colorado goes into scramble mode for a coach, and Mike Dunlap and Tad Boyle show up on their radar.

        Remember this was while Nikegon was scouring the country for any big name coach who would sell out.

        Boyle was the easy choice for what he did at UNCo, and he took the rag-tag shambles of a program Bzelik left for him and proceeded to win 24 games and get to the NIT semi’s in his first year.

        Meanwhile, Wellman and Wake get a coach who oversees a program in which a five star C (Tony Woods) drunk and, in front of his own kid, beats and kicks a woman until he literally breaks her back. Then Wake proceeds to go 3-23 over the last two years in the ACC… oh… and still no ACC Tourney wins to go along with that 1-15 ACC record last year.

  • Jack says:
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    This coaching search is getting beyond bothersome. We keep hearing, “we’ll know/hear something in a day/two days/tomorrow/yesterday.” But there doesn’t seem to be any follow-up from anyone.

    Hello?

    Are there any reporters out there who realize the level of disrespect they’re receiving by being lied to? How about a little, “I approached Coach Riley about the coaching search now that his soft deadline for an announcement has passed yet again. [He just gave me a look of annoyance.] -or- [He said that there’s still some paperwork to fill out. So I asked him if he thought it might just be a situation where OSU was simply trying to hire on the cheap again. He just gave me a look of annoyance.]’

    I don’t think the reporters understand that they are the buffer between us and the coaches/team. They seem to want to be all buddy buddy with everyone they cover, which puts them in the mix instead of between us and their subject.

  • Jack says:
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    Kirk Ferentz just lost a third coach, this time to the Miami.

    Another thing that bothers me about this long delay for hiring a coach is that Fink still needs to hire one. USC played 2/3 of their season without a DB coach after (known) cheater boy resigned. And now that signing day has passed, he has announced that they are beginning their search for one.

    I guess I shouldn’t worry. MR and Fink would never offer the same person.

    Would they?

  • Beaver Byte says:
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    Oregon State is the only Pac-12 school that does not participate in Tennis. I believe in the next 5 years OSU should consider adding it. We may have an opportunity to attract Eastern European or Asian recruits in addition to Americans. The sport is also fairly entertaining at the Pac-12 level and would translate well to the PacNets.

    Oregon St. should add Tennis:
    http://beaverbyte.com

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