01.Dec.2013 Oregon State vs Depaul (@Chicago)

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  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Go Beavs!

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Robinson has the team in the 1-3-1 defense. ALRIGHT!

    Not!

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Nine minutes in and Beavs down 7 and Collier with 13 of the Beavs 15 points

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    DePaul shooting 72%

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Beavs down at the half, 43-39. Collier has monster half, 22 points and 5 Reb.

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    More frequent updates please.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    16:41 left 54 – 44 them

    Collier has not scored in the 2nd half.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    15:42 left 57 – 47 them

    OREGON STATE BEAVERS – STARTERS
    …..PLAYER FG 3PT FT REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
    55 R. Nelson 4/9 2/4 0/0 1 2 0 0 3 2 10
    12 A. Brandt 2/5 1/1 1/2 2 1 0 0 0 2 6
    4 C. Barton 1/2 0/1 0/0 0 1 0 0 2 0 2
    44 D. Collier 8/10 0/0 6/7 7 0 1 0 1 2 22
    1 V. Robbins 0/1 0/1 0/0 1 0 0 0 2 1 0

    SHOW BENCH
    …..PLAYER FG 3PT FT REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
    14 D. Gomis 1/1 0/0 0/0 4 0 0 0 1 1 2
    3 H. Cooke 1/2 0/0 1/2 0 1 0 0 0 2 3
    32 J. Reid 1/1 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 0 1 2 2
    2 M. Moyer 0/1 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    30 O. Schaftenaar 0/2 0/1 0/0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
    11 M. Duvivier 0/2 0/2 0/0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0

    DEPAUL BLUE DEMONS – STARTERS
    …..PLAYER FG 3PT FT REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
    12 C. Melvin 6/10 2/2 2/4 6 2 0 0 1 1 16
    20 B. Young 4/9 0/2 5/7 4 5 1 2 0 1 13
    2 T. Hamilton IV 4/6 1/1 3/4 3 0 1 0 0 1 12
    55 S. Marcius 2/2 0/0 2/2 3 0 0 0 1 2 6
    5 B. Garrett Jr. 3/6 1/1 0/0 1 4 0 0 0 0 7

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    @ 13:45 Collier scores his first points in the 2nd half..49 – 59 them.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Cal loses qb Zach Kline and an OL to transfer. 1 db commit leaves as well. More to come possibly.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    10:40 53 – 66 them

    Nelson on the bench with 4 fouls. Collier still with only 2 points in the 2nd half.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    DePaul already in the double bonus with 9 min left

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    8:15 59 – 74 them
    Nelson is back in. Collier has 26, 4 of them in the 2nd half.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    18 point DePaul lead with 7 to go. this one’s over folks.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    6:27 minutes 61 – 81 them Collier has 5 points in the 2nd half, 3 of them are free throws.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    4:33 min. 69 – 83 them…. Collier has 7 points in the 2nd half, 5 via free throws.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    3:09 minutes 70 – 87 them

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    2:08 min. 75 – 87 them

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    Thanks!

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Final 81 – 93 them.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    A now 4-3 DePaul team has 5 players in double figures. Collier with a career high 32 points and grabs 9 boards. Angus isn’t the answer. The Barton experiment should be over, make Cooke the PG. Roberto hampered by foul trouble scores 19. Final 93-81.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    I’m impressed with how balanced the DePaul scoring was. 21, 21, 14, 15, 13.

    OSU on the other hand………. 17, 6, 2, 32, 5

    I’m glad I didn’t have a stream to watch. It was bad enough just listening to the audio.

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    This defense is enough to make Banker blush. OSU basketball, “we suck so you don’t have to.”

    • scotty says:
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      Disagree.

      That implies Banker feels shame for poor defensive performances, which we know to not be the case due to the lack of a giant beet walking around Corvallis.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Barton in 3yrs has been in double digits twice, and never been over 6 assists.

    The defense is the major flaw of this team and has been since coaches tenure.

    Moreland may help a little, but it is fundamentals where they show deficiencies.

  • beav4ever says:
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    Robinson has no clue what he is doing. Rat ball offense and horrid defense. The beavs don’t even give a good effort on the defensive end. Nelson is laziest defender we have. These incoming freshman you can tell are not being taught fundamental defensive responsibilities. It’s a joke watching this team play. The sad part is we have talent to be a good team but this coaching is pathetic.

    • Numbers says:
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      Fire BDC! We have a great recruiting able coach with neat family ties which can attract players. An AD with half a brain would have installed an Xs and Os assistant a couple years ago. BDC is worse than worthless.

      • Numbers says:
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        You know it’s not that tough. You don’t have to find an assistant capable of being a head coach on a huge salary. All we need is a guy who can coach Xs and Os, that’s it.

        • Kristick Whiffs Again says:
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          Even if that hypothetical “x and o” coach were to be hired, what is to say he could out scheme other Pac 12 coaches? Would you suggest that we give him full rein of play calls and let Robama sit on the bench as a publicity prop? Isn’t that what he already is? I hate the direction of this team, we are going be fighting a big fucking up hill battle regardless of coaching changes. Gary Payton II had better be the real deal and be able to win despite leadership!!!

          • Numbers says:
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            Wouldn’t a’a scheme’ be better than no scheme rat ball?

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Beaver’s last lead was 4-2. Interior defense was not good. CR said that he didn’t think the team played that well today. Team didn’t come out to play and he (CR) needs to figure out how to keep the players from just showing up after they’ve won a couple. CR and Mike talked about Cooke and how he looks like he belongs out there now. To his credit when MP brought up Moreland and how he could’ve changed this game CR said, we’ve played good games without him. Olaf a no-show again today. CR said maybe this game is just too fast for Olaf (lightbulb going off!!). CR, “the good news is that we have alot more games to play”. I don’t know about that.

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    The Maryland win notwithstanding I still have them on DVR probation. As soon as they hit the -20 mark I fast forward to the final. It saves lots of exasperating time watching the entire mess, err…game. Today minus time outs, injuries, referee conferences and halftime plus final six minutes of fast forward TTW (total time wasted) about an hour. It’s the only way to watch any Beaver game.

    It looked like coach Greg Robertson, after this year he will need a pseudonym, showed them the UW football game to get them ready for today’s contest. Could they have been any more apathetic? JB

    PS: We should schedule DePaul for a football game. What..they don’t have a team! So much the better.

  • Mb says:
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    What is the difference between the detested Beaver Johnny Hecker and the NFL leading punter ? C.O.A.C.H.I.N.G.

    • steveEbeaver says:
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      Bruce Read and his $260,000 salary.

      • Numbers says:
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        One of just a couple college special teams only coaches in the nation. The special teams really reflect BDC’s investment in these assistants.

  • Kristick Whiffs Again says:
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    SQEEBILY BEEBILY BOBBOLI BOO! THE WORST TEAM IN THE PAC 12 IS AGAIN, OSU

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      Perhaps CR’s bro in law will institute “Basketball social justice” by executive order and take away a few wins from Duke, Zona, etc., and give them to our downtrodden Beavers. The man, BDC, is keeping us down! Fight the power.

      • Jack says:
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        That makes no sense unless you buy the “obama is a socialist” idiocy… which makes anyone who believes is 100% stupid. If i hear anyone talk about about Obama as a leftist, I just have to think they believe he’s 150% a peacenik and 200% in favor of legalizing marijuana as well. The evidence is less left-leaning on the economic and chickenhawk fronts than it is on the drug front. But all are pretty extremely right-winged crap.

        I have no problem tearing the POTUS’ policies apart piece by piece. But at least get the pieces right.

        • puffstuff says:
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          jack, you’re so full of shit. Let’s see some of that piece by piece tearing. Think he’s being unnecessarily tough on Iran or Syria? Perhaps you don’t like him sending B52’s into Chinese airspace. Piece by piece remember, a whole fucking bunch of it. Put up or shut up. Asswipe

          • Jack says:
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            Did you just say anything?

            That was about as bullshit as me countering with, “Oh yeah? Kermit refuses to sing to MIss Piggy on Thursday.”

            Howsabout you give me examples of Obama’s leftist policies. I can show you how he’s so far right he wouldn’t have been nominated in 1980 by a comparatively progressive Republican Party. Holy shit puffstunt, you can’t honestly believe Obama is a Socialist… or even a socialist… not that you would even know the difference?

            Iran? Syria? China?

            Are you such a stupid fuck that you think any of those matter? Current contracts with current vendors are all that are required for a coward to continue the ways of his cowardly predecessor. He’s not as bad. But he’s bad by default.

            I can tell by your jib that you’ve never had any skin in the game. So let me tell you now. War absolutely sucks for real people. Friends and family go away and don’t come back. And politicians attending the ceremonial burial of empty boxes and pretending to care about your losses doesn’t make war better or important or whatever. I don’t need old ladies handing me cards of, “Thank you for your service,” with, “God loves” and an obscure bible passage which means something different than what jingo thinks it means. Ineed them to lean on the powers that make our government go to war… that make them poison our air and water, and by default (and common sense) our own people… that make them divide and conquer.

            Oops! Did I just give up their game?

          • puffstuff says:
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            Where is the piece by piece tearing of Obama’s policies? If you think war sucks so bad, and are so concerned for real people why did you tell that Marine so flippantly that it sucked to be him when he wrote that he was on deployment? You’re so small minded and drunk with arrogance you wouldn’t make a pimple on a Marine’s ass.

          • LinusPauling says:
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            Jack is not arrogant!! He is simply aware of being the smartest guy in the room. I feel you owe Jack an apology.

            LP

          • Jack says:
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            Feel?

            No apology from this jerk-off would be sincere… ever.

          • Jack says:
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            You really do not understand what it’s like to be in the military. Think of it like a locker room on steroids. And that’s a mild, short quip on the reality of military life.

            The onus is on you first. You give me the points which confirm your alluded “collectivism.”

            After I’m done laughing my ass off at how completely stupid you are, I can address each and every false and idiotic idea you present as something you think is sancrosanct enough to create a house of cards on a foundation of lies which is your life.

            The ball has always been in your court. That you’re too stupid to play it yet call yourself a winner is your problem.

          • LinusPauling says:
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            Jack is not full of shit!! He is the greatest mind ever to attend the hallowed halls of OSU. We should all be honored that his posts sometimes move from athletics into the complexities of political policy, astronomy and many other challenging topics. His facts and opinions are dead on and unquestionable. Who are you puffstuff to question this great and powerful mind? Please apologize to Jack and simply thank him for spending his time enlightening us. I for one appreciate the time he spends posting on angrybeavs.com. Thank you Jack!!

            LP

  • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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    Sark to leave Mutt Lake for So Cal according to ESPN

    http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/college-football/story/_/id/10068739/usc-trojans-hire-steve-sarkisian-washington-huskies-new-football-coach

    • FireBDCNow says:
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      And 90% chance Justin Wilcox gets the UW job. BDC had his shot. Knew window for Wilcox was short. Another opportunity lost. Our fanbase sure likes to be stuck for a long time. Not very common anywhere else.

      • FedUpBeav says:
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        Based on many outlets now thinking OSU has less than a 50% shot for a bowl this year and Riley losing his last 5 and last 6 Civil Wars, why don’t we bid on Wilcox? Riley can then apply for the UW job and negotiate a standard 5 year deal with incentives for higher winning percentage only if he reaches those goals. That would be best for everyone and the Pac-12 as very long term deals are good for no one.

        Both Wilcox and Riley could get signed for 2 million a year on 5 year deals with possible bonuses. Personally I would take this in a heartbeat as OSU is ready for a changeup and I think Wilcox is stud recruiter who would get a lot of kids excited to come to Corvallis to play for Oregon State. Wonder who Wilcox would want as an OC? Riley can take Langsdork and Banker to UW. Riley doesn’t want to get rid of his coordinators so this is the easiest way to remove them.

        • GOBeavs GOBeavs says:
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          I haven’t heard Riley mentioned for USC or UW recently. Not sure if it’s because they know he has turned down USC, Wisconsin in the past of if it’s indicative of his falling stock.

        • whatever says:
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          Ha ha, why would UW want Riley?

          • scotty says:
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            For the same reason USC wanted Sarkisian: Who knows.

          • whatever says:
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            Sorry Scotty, that’s just not any sort of explanation. USC hired Sarkisian because he resurrected UW’s program from 0-12 to 4 straight bowl games. He’s a former coach there and an excellent recruiter, plus most of their big donors love him.

            Pie in the sky hopes about how we can ditch Riley for free while getting an upgrade is silly. (PS – UW would have to pay Riley’s buyout too, you know. You think they want to pay $7 million for him? One in a million chance at best.)

            But those incoherent ramblings and nonsensical ‘possibilities’ about how we can and should ‘make this happen’ and how ‘Bob is an idiot if it doesn’t’ will surely get everybody’s panties in a bunch around here. Situation normal: delusional.

          • Jack says:
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            Agreed. There is no reason to even be talking about replacing Riley given our circumstance and his contract. One note… the buy-out is paid by the coach alone. Yes, you can give the guy a hefty signing bonus. But let’s get real. UW wouldn’t hire Riley if there was no buy-out involved and he was looking to leave Corvallis. They’ve seen him coach.

          • scotty says:
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            What you say is true. However, there’s a big difference between building a program to 7-6 and running a juggernaut. USC has juggernaut recruiting potential and expectations. It’s not a rebuilding project.

        • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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          more than likely they make a run at Jim Mora Jr at FUCLA since he is a UW grad and said that would be his dream job (of course he was just joking though, right?)

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            I thought the same thing.

          • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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            Gary Pinkel at Mizzou is a former UW assistant so they may try and gauge his interest as well. I doubt it’s a match since Pinkel has the tiggers in the SEC title game and he may try and use that to milk some more $$$ out of Mizzou

          • oneoldbeav says:
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            Pinkel seems every bit as nice as Riley. More success, but similar “nice”.
            Mora most likely for UW, anyone think Langs will interview for FUCLA?? Read??

      • Kristick Whiffs Again says:
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        Wrooooong

      • RanYakumo says:
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        Nope. Wilcox is going with Sark to USC, if the link below is to be believed.

        http://www.uwdawgpound.com/2013/12/2/5167272/sarkisian-usc-head-coach-huskies

        Looks like USC will actually have a great defense next year.

  • Jack says:
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    Two things on and off topic:

    1. The 1-3-1 definitively lost the hoops game. DePaul came into the game prepared for it, and they dissected it with patience and efficiency. This gave them a confidence unknown before that time, and they carried it on to just make OSU look bad. When you’re shooting over 50% from the floor and still losing by double digits early, you’re defense is worse than bad.

    2. Losing to EWU saved the coordinators’ jobs. Both should still go, but the freefall for our season wasn’t from 7-0 and a likely top 10-12 ranking to the dregs we now inhabit. It was from a prohibitive #25 to the same dregs. The Pollyannas forgave the EWU loss because that’s what they do. then they bought into Polly greatness before the players just didn’t execute. Polly greatness excuses bad wins with all the same excuses, but there’s no Lucy in their picture. Lucy would have appeared if we had beaten EWU and gone 7-0 despite all the same excuses for bad wins.

    • Kristick Whiffs Again says:
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      So in summary:

      1. Basketball is doomed.

      2. Football is too.

      3. Status quo for beaver nation…

  • scotty says:
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    Just called into the radio show again. Couldn’t take the Bobby D talking points being spewed out.

    • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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      can you give us a recap?

      • scotty says:
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        other caller before me:
        We have no money, can’t recruit here, blah blah blah

        me:
        Washington State is in a worse financial situation and in a smaller town, and Leach has the Cougs with the same record in year 2 as Riley has the Beavs in year 13. And their basketball program is better, too.
        Then I said Riley and staff (BANKER) don’t learn from the past as evidenced by possession at the end of Civil War (didn’t learn from EWU) and the prevent D on quack drive (didn’t learn from Alamo Bowl.) I want to hire Riley 8 years ago. He was good, but they’ve gotten stale.

  • Jack says:
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    OT… I’ve been reading the comments all over the place about the Sark move to USC. USC fans are not happy about this, but UW fans are more happy and excited about the possibilities than not. In fact, almost all the unhappy notes I see from puppy fans are about potentially losing coaches like Wilcox, Sirmon and Lupoi. But even that’s an “oh well” level of being upset in the face of the happiness they have for losing Sark without having to buy him out.

    I have to agree with these sentiments. Sark will still be outcoached by many (including Riley) on an any-given-year basis. USC has several “almost” seasons ahead of them.

    UW, on the other hand, has an opportunity to hire a good coach to replace a good recruiter. That could make them dangerous for a couple years… and dangerous into the future if they get a good coach who can also recruit.

  • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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    SC folks not happy about this hire. They are referring to him as Sarkiffen

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      I would have termed it Kiffen part 2. Much better than Kiffen, but is this the best they could do?
      Trying recreate the Pete Carroll days.

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    BDC, please make MR fire Bruce Read and hire Ogeron as Asst. HC and recruiting coordinator.

  • Numbers says:
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    That just might be OSU best case scenario right now. Fire Read/Banker. Hire Coach O as new Defensive coordinator. Wow that would be really really great!

    • Kristick Whiffs Again says:
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      Coach O wants to be a HC and has said repeatedly that he hates Corvallis. Go fish!

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    I asked Jim Wilson this same thing, but about Clancy Pendergast. He responded, Could they? sure. will they? NO it won’t happen.

    We all know the answer, and that is probably most frustrating part of this.

    We Know Riley will never, ever fire Banker or probably Read. That is where we need an AD with the balls to tell him he needs to make changes to his staff, see Florida.

    That is why BDC needs to go.

    • Kristick Whiffs Again says:
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      BDC would kick your ass

      • Jack says:
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        What? Does he travel with a stepladder now that Parkinson’s has forced him to do hot yoga?

      • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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        I’m sure he’s just shaking in his boots

  • Mb says:
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    Please not Clancy. He threw Lupoi under the bus at Cal. Does anyone really think that low man on the totem pole Lupoi had the authority to make defensive players fake injuries over serveral plays and several series vs Oregon without the coordinator knowing or approving? who got suspended and fined, the guy with the big salary or the guy with the low salary? Why would an extremely loyal grad leave to go to a rival? Money you say. I say money and bitterness at having to take the fall for cowards.

    • Jack says:
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      Agreed. And Lupoi is about as good a coach as Orgeron… who is about as good a coach as the current Cincy OC.

      There are coaches who can recruit so well that their deficiencies are excused to the point that only succession to a head coaching job for some unsuspecting school is inevitable.

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      Agree 100%

  • Jack says:
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    OT…
    Since I have a Top Gear rehash on right now, I forgot how funny this sign was for a supposed “important” meeting:
    How to reduce the carbon footprint of our ethnically diverse disability access policy for single parent mothers

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      We’re #1

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      #1 most resented team?

    • Kristick Whiffs Again says:
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      A lot of good that ReBeav crap did. Worst logo in the NCAA? Thanks, Nike and thanks BdC for not seeing that Nike was obviously trying to make us look like idiots and we pounced at the opportunity!

      “Hey, Mr good recruit, how would you like to play in half empty stadium with a .500 record in the middle of nowhere while wearing the ugliest logo in sports? Hello? Mr good recruit? I think he hung up…”

      • GOBeavs GOBeavs says:
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        I honestly don’t think Nike would make us look like idiots on purpose. Obviously, a lot of their designs get called ugly (countless Duck uniforms have been called hideous) but I don’t think they intentionally make them that way.

  • scotty says:
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    Listening to radio show… All I can say is I give up

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    We went from Benny Beaver to what I call the flat rat. If there is a nickname it would be Ronnie Roadkill. Captures both the logo and the current state of the teams. JB

    • Numbers says:
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      Too bad Ralphie is already used by Colorado. Cause our Ralphie Roadkill mascot makes me want to Ralph when I think of the perfectly good Benny and Bernice he replaced.

    • scotty says:
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      Looks like a giant sewer rat to me

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    Benny was/is awesome. Really stupid to change in the first place. Was a cute mascot the cause of having shitty football teams? Ask U of O if the Duck held them back?

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