30.Aug.2014 Beavs/Hawaii

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I’m watching the Washington @ Hawaii game.

This Hawaii QB is mobile and runs the read option. He’s making good decisions. Their D is playing well, too.

Now add Norm Chow being brighter than Riley, Beavs having to travel, and the surprisingly raucous crowd…this game is a week away but I’m getting a Utah 2008 deja vu feeling watching this.

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  • bone says:
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    One of the positives of going to the Hawaii bowl, all the players that are expected to play have done this trip before. The novelty isn’t as big of a factor.

    • angry angry says:
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      Yeah.

      Why do the Beavs only have 12 games scheduled? I thought if you play @Hawaii you get a 13th game. Was that changed, or did they just decline it?

      • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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        I read somewhere they preferred the bye weeks based on how the rest of the schedule looked, plus they’ll get a 13th when they play in the pac 12 championship game

      • Numbers says:
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        Too “poor?”

  • angry angry says:
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    17-16 Washington barely hanging on. 4thQ. This is a good game.

    • oneoldbeav says:
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      Can’t read too much into the dogs performance tonight with their 1st string QB out, big drop off going with the #2.
      Still, UH will be a more difficult test than was PSU today.

      • angry angry says:
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        Hasn’t Miles played only a few snaps? It’s not like he’s a great QB. Not sure that makes a huge difference in this situation.

        • oneoldbeav says:
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          Lindquist is 10 for 26 throwing, I think Miles would do enough better to make a difference.

    • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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      I’m following the game on gametracker. It just said washingtons qb Lindquist just punted?

      • angry angry says:
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        Yes. He pooch punted and it looked like a net of like 10 yards, if that. Really bad call by Peterson.

        angryhuskies.com

  • Numbers says:
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    Another positive of going to play in Hawaii is hosting an extra home game! Oh wait…

  • FedUpBeav says:
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    I don’t like turning down an extra home game either. We could use the money and it should be a W. If Hawaii falls just short against the Fuskies then they will be hungry next weekend. OSU has much to work on to be 2-0 at this time next week.

  • angry angry says:
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    Sark might be an underrated coach. Washington played better than this under him, and USC looked solid today. Petersen with a really bad pooch punt decision right there…probably netted less than 10 yards.

  • angry angry says:
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    So Washington is going to win. That’s probably bad for the Beavs.

    • oneoldbeav says:
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      Hawaii radio making the point that the Huskies are the highest ranked team the Rainbow Warriors will face this season, so, yep tonights showing is bad for the Beavs.

  • angry angry says:
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    Wow. Refs blew that call…dude was clearly out of bounds.

    Was this a pac-12 crew?

  • olzeke says:
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    OS survived a scare. UW survived a scare. I would rather have Peterson heading into week 2.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    OSU was 3(!) of 14 on third downs against PSU…scored on 5 of 7(!) field goal attempts.

    I actually thought Garret was going to make a difference; but a coordinator with responsibility but not deference and authority cannot overcome the mediocrity of Riley/Banker.

    It’s frustrating to say, but I was hoping PSU would win. They looked like they wanted it more, and I ended up reverting to that perennial, empty hope that BDC would make a head coaching change if the team’s performance gets worse than it already is. Is that any way to think about your school’s team? I am glad the OSU Dept. of Fisheries and Wildlife performs to a higher standard.

    • bone says:
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      How did they look like they wanted it more? They had one good drive? Giving up 500 yard if offense? By having 5 turnovers? I know it want a great game by the Beavs, but Portland St. Really did not do anything to prove they wanted it more. This game the more I think about it reminds me of Hawaii game of last season, obviously Oregon St. is a better team, just didn’t play up to expectations. I’m not throwing in the towel after one game.

      • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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        Agreed. Take away 2 long qb runs by #15 and PSU had only slightly over 100 yards on the day. Sure, Penn shouldnt have been able to break those on multiple occasion in the first half, bit they cleaned it up at halftime. (my buddy i was with is a psu guy amd he was saying early in the game, “if you see #15 come in the game, i guarantee he’s not going to pass” other psu fans around me echoed that. poor scouting on OSU’s part because that is all Penn did last year)

        The penalties will be cleaned up too. An entire camp with no refs/coaches blowing the whistle on you will cause the players to develop bad habits, but again they cleaned them up by halftime.

        Red zone failures were not good to see, but the offense moved up the field fine up to that point. They know what they need to work on. A ton of points were left on the field Saturday, and i have faith they’ll become more efficient. i was actually glad Owens got so many opportunities to kick, just for the experience. Results were mixed but mostly good from him. 2 hit the pole amd the long miss was blocked so not really on him. His day was still better than a typical romaine game.

        I think a close game today keepa the team more focused on improving than a blowout win would have. The talent was there and the Beavs obviously have the weapons to play better, and I think they will. I’m still thinking this is an 8-9 win team

        • oneoldbeav says:
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          Last I heard, Locey was responsible for scouting upcoming opponents. Is that still the case?
          I wonder if Riley has got him more focused on responsibilities in the areas of alumni relations and job placement for SA’s.

        • alex says:
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          Biggest concern I have is WRs. No one seemed to be able to get separation- and that’s against PSU defenders.

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            I echo this but as my 2nd biggest concern. Oline lack of focus is paramount to me.

          • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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            Coming into yesterday’s game, there was lots of talk from the coaches about who would step up among the young, new WR’s (Malik Gilmore, Hunter Jarmon, Xavier Hawkins, Jordan Villamin, Kendall Hill, Rahmel Dockery). The coaches claimed to be looking for one or more of these players to prove themselves capable of performing on Saturday in a real game, in front of a real crowd.

            Talk is cheap. Here’s what actually happened at Reser yesterday — not a single pass was completed yesterday to any of those guys. Not one.

            True, a number of passes were thrown to sophomore Victor Bolden, who had five receptions (for 52 yards) and made some nice grabs (and who also was given a number of opportunities to run the fly sweep, picking up 41 yards on 6 carries). But other than Bolden, the new young WR’s were pretty much ignored all day by Mannion and the OSU coaching staff.

            It’s all too easy to keep throwing the ball to the same guys (Mullaney, Hamlett, Smith, and Bolden). But that’s not going to help you identify who is ready to “step up” among the rest of the WRs. Yesterday’s opening game against an FCS team provided a good opportunity to do that, and this opportunity was wasted by the OSU coaching staff.

            OSU will likely pay a price down the road for this all-too-typical mistake (just as OSU will pay a price for not giving VanderVeen any snaps yesterday, and not giving Chris Brown any chances to run the ball). I think this is another instance of bad coaching by Riley & Co.

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            Agree 100%.

          • steveEbeaver says:
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            Yeah, I was going to go back and see how many plays they were involved in but then I remembered I deleted the game as soon as it was over.

  • Calibeav says:
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    Anyone else making the trip? We fly out tp Hawaii on Thursday

    • beaverpatch says:
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      Headed over Friday morning. Going to tailgate with the Hawaiians. I am allowed by them if I don’t become “obnoxious”. I reminded them that we are “Beavers” and NOT “Ducks”. Beavers are warm, wet and inviting. Ducks are cold, clammy, and quack.

  • helmsley says:
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    I didn’t watch or listen to the game. I’ve read some write-up, a few comments, and seen some photos/videos – the one of Sean Mannion, first snap, and the football bouncing off his helmet – priceless. Consider the entertainment value this game featured – the first possession alone was amusing.

    Also, this isn’t just OSU – but the over-celebration after nothing much is silly. If the game is a winner, celebrate, celebrate, celebrate. ‘Til then, not so much.

    Jim Bouton’s thoughts on the subject a la baseball:

    Mr. BOUTON: I can’t stand celebrations. These guys celebrate home runs like they just discovered a cure for cancer. And then they come in from home plate -and this is a, this is a, you know, this is a Thursday night game, doesnt mean anything. And they go to the dugout and the fans are demanding a curtain call -a curtain call because the guy just put his team ahead by one run. Oh, and then they’re trotting around the bases. This is a whole ritual, with the hands up in the air and pointing here and pointing there, and then kissing jewelry, all of that stuff. Come on. Give me a break. You hit a home run, go in there, sit down and shut up, because it’s been done before.

    • angry angry says:
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      LOVE Jim Bouton.

      Have you seen the new film with him in it…Bastards of Baseball or whatever about the Portland Mavericks. It’s fantastic.

      • helmsley says:
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        I haven’t seen the film, but I will definitely check it out. Thx

  • angry angry says:
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    Riley’s post game

    https://oregonstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1675864

    • steveEbeaver says:
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      My take on Riley’s demeanor is that he was surprised they played as poorly as they did and he’s worried about how this season is going to go when he thought he had a pretty good football team.

      Interesting comment on the red zone offense in that he pointed out they got away with a lot of play action passes early in the season last year but when the competition got better that just didn’t work.

      • Jack says:
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        Hmmm… I wonder what type of play might make play action work. Maybe some quick outs? Maybe a short curl or a fly pattern? Oooh! I know… two consecutive play action passes should set us up nicely for a play action pass that will definitely work.

        But let’s not try any of those stupid run calls. That would never work.

  • Bill says:
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    I was at the game and these were the obvious takeaways from the game,

    1. The intro video sucked. A lot. take out all of the extra clips and it might be watchable.
    2. The overall team speed is slow. Guys looked like they had cement in their shoes. Especially on defense.
    3. Penalties were an issue. Smith needs to get his head in the game. The non calls were ridiculous.
    4. Hamlett will be a star. He was split out wide many times.
    5. Owens became a veteran in one day. 9 kicks overall. His leg strength is inconsistent. Pregame he was not reaching the endzone on kickoffs. Can’t blame him much on the missed 50yd. I think every kicker since Serna has clanked one off the upright in their first game. He should be ok inside 45.
    6. Mannion looked indecisive. Missed a few opportunities.
    7. Justin Strong made a statement with his play. He was flying all over the field. Look for him a lot more.
    8. The d line looked bad. little penetration. Guys in the middle didn’t make much of an impact.

    Overall, this clunker was on the coaches. Most of the issues were mental. That is a coaching problem. Playcalling was weird. Mannion didn’t need to throw as much as he did. Seemed like if it was 2nd and 10, the coaches treated it like 3rd and 10 and called pass plays every time.

    As for next week, Hawaii doesn’t have a really mobile QB. The main rushing came from the RB so I’m not particularly worried there. Plus Norm Chow’s background is pro systems and he doesn’t change it. If they played Hawaii first, I’d be a little concerned that the players would see it as a vacation instead of a game. But with a game under their belt and many being there last year, I see the Beavs winning convincingly. Coaches need to step up this week.

    • angry angry says:
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      Hawaii was not running a pro system, and that QB was pretty mobile. Did you watch the game?

  • Mb says:
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    Take away the sun and it is always night. Deductive reasoning is perhaps the most inaccurate way to to evaluate anything. Pooping on PSU does not hide the truth. False starts are an inherited trait at OSU. Delay of game and burned clock in English are called Mike Riley. Running quarterbacks are no fair to the OSU defense because real men, ahem, ahem “we teach the NFL here” do not recognize this as fair play. Think of it this way,OSU are the Redcoats and FCS teams are the Patriots. King George always said that you can’t recruit to The Colonies. Silver was right on the money, as always. You need to play lots of guys in this first game, especially the back up qb. Otherwise you have no real plan for the future, and are reduced to marketing hyperbole.

    • angry angry says:
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      “Running quarterbacks are no fair to the OSU defense because real men, ahem, ahem “we teach the NFL here” do not recognize this as fair play.”

      That’s an interesting theory.

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