08.Sep.2014 Riley Post Game Comments

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On if this is a good time for a bye week:

“It feels good. It’s early, I suppose, to have a bye. But part of the Hawaii scheduling, I think Bob (De Carolis) did a good job of getting the bye week after the trip. It would be tough duty to be starting game prep today, probably. We’re treating today for the players like Sunday (with no practice).”

Agree with this one. It is a good time for a bye, and I think if they had to practice and play on Saturday SDSU would be much tougher.

On being 2-0 heading into the bye week:  

“We’re glad for our record and have a lot of work (to continue) to do. There was a lot of good football, and of course we melted down in some areas in the fourth quarter that will get everybody’s attention back pretty fast. It shows you how you can lose a little bit of an edge and they made some plays that, all of a sudden, it’s not so rosy anymore. So you’ve got to keep playing. But there was a lot of good football, so we’re pleased with that, and still a lot of things that we can continue to have to grow in.”

This is all pretty accurate, though vague…

On the difference between heading into a bye week after a win versus a loss:

“It’s a big deal. It’s good to have the wins and everybody has to realize we’re certainly far from perfect. The record’s good, but the football has to improve. That has to be a rallying point every week right now. But I was thinking about that. Boy, it would have been a long trip home and kind of a bad atmosphere had we lost the game, and then it would have been doubly bad to have to sit on that loss for two weeks. So it was good to win. Made the trip home a lot better, made the bye week a lot better.”

Dur…obviously a win is better than a loss. Riley is Caption Obvious here.

On the injuries coming out of the Hawaii game:

“I haven’t talked to the trainer since we actually left yesterday, even though we were on the plane. I did not hear anything, which is good news. D.J. (Alexander) had a sprained ankle and Jabral (Johnson) had an arm problem, but I think those were pretty well defined. I don’t know what D.J.’s status will be practicing tomorrow, but since we have a bye, I would be anticipating him being fine. And everything I heard about J.J. is good, too.”

He hasn’t talked to the trainer, even though they were on the plane together? Okaaay………………

On four consecutive games with a 100-yard rusher, dating back to last season:

“Yes, that felt good. There were some nice runs and some very consistent runs that were nice to see. We’ve just to keep pushing that hard. That really makes it for a better game when you can hit some runs consistently.”

He’s saying running feels good, but he doesn’t seem to believe it. Actions > words.

On if Chris Bown could get involved in the running game:

“I don’t know. It’s hard to plan for three (backs to get carries). We’ve got a pretty good older duo (with Storm Woods and Terron Ward). Chris Brown is a good football player, and I have no reservations about playing him at all. It’s just not that easy to do and fit it all in together. But I’d like to. And like I said, I have no reservations whatsoever (about) him playing.”

Is it hard? If back 1 or 2 aren’t doing the job, put in back 3. There…problem solved in exactly 1 second.

On the chance Isaac Seumalo returns for the San Diego State game:  

“That’s, for sure, a wait-and-see (thing). I have no indicator at this point that he’ll be ready for the next game, but obviously getting closer to that date. But it’s too early to say when.”

I guess the guy who posted here that Seumalo would not play this year was wrong. This could be a huge boost if he returns healthy.

On the blocked punt against Hawaii:

“They overloaded and we didn’t adjust. Gave a guy a free angle to the ball. Those are bad things because as people watch us, they’ll smell blood in the water and we’ll see more and more of that. So we’re gonna have to do an extra-good job of punt protection.”

Dumb.

On Lavonte Barnett and Jalen Grimble getting starts on the defensive line:

“Lavonte, for sure, (earned that) from his first-game performance. And as I’ve mentioned on the interior, we’ll probably rotate that around because we feel like we at least have three starters in there that all deserve this opportunity, so that’s why Jalen started.”

Not sure what this is all about…the line rotates so who really cares who starts.

On receiver Victor Bolden’s performance against Hawaii:

“That’s a young group in general. We think of Victor being the old, grizzled vet, but he caught six balls last year and ran some fly sweeps. To have some growth through production is good and a little better picture of what we need to do in the passing game.”

I don’t think of Bolden as an old, grizzled vet. I think of him as a green, scrawny Deshawn Jackson light edition. He’s fine but definitely need someone else to step up.

On Brandin Cooks’ strong NFL debut with the New Orleans Saints:

“Not surprised. And I just saw a little ticker-tape deal that Markus Wheaton also got the start (for the Pittsburgh Steelers) and had six catches for 97 yards, so we had two pretty good players playing there the last few years.”

No surprise here, either.

On safety Justin Strong’s early impact as a redshirt freshman:

“Very instinctive player and he’s a good tackler. He’s a guy that should continue to grow in there, because he’s not afraid to make plays and tackle guys and has been really productive for a young player in his first couple games.”

Agree 100%. Strong stood out in game 1, too. His angles and tackling were exceptional.

On the improved red zone production against Hawaii:

“We gotta be better down there. Still not perfect, but some good things. We ran the ball in and we threw a couple in and so it was better, for sure, and played a big, big difference in that game.”

Didn’t he throw 3 times on 1st and goal during one possession? He’s addicted to passing. He thinks Mannion is someone he isn’t…he thinks passing records matter. He’s trying to force an “identity” of a high octane passing attack, when that isn’t how the roster is built.

On the early impressions of San Diego State:

“I have a lot of respect for that program. Rocky Long, and he’s got a veteran coaching staff that does a great job. And they finished the season real strong last year, so we’re in for another tough nonconference game.”

This game is more winnable than Hawaii, imo. Long is a good coach, though, and that will level things out.

On the bye week goals:

“I’ve got a list going right here in front of me that we’ll need to touch on as we go through the week. Some things we have to have in our game that we’re not accomplishing right now. And then just some clean-up stuff that we need to do. A n d then some situational stuff — some two-minute stuff and some silent-count stuff—because eventually we’ll get into some issues with noise. So it’s a good week to touch on all those things that we’re gonna either see in the next game or need to add to what we’re doing or improve what we’re doing or just be ready for the future.”

Gina missing the obvious follow up questions. “Some things we have to have in our game that we’re not accomplishing right now.”…like what? What clean up stuff? Etc. This is so vague.

On the Beavers still finding their identity:  

“I think we made a better push toward that. I’m not sure offensively in the first game we had one. We did a little better with it offensively, and defensively I think that we played a lot of good defense. There were some disappointing things in the fourth quarter the other night, but we certainly need to grow and improve that stuff. We’re working toward a better picture, for sure.”

Ah! The old finding our identity line. Classic stuff. Riley is forcing an identity onto the team. He wants them to be a high octane passing squad when they’re more built to be balanced. Sean Mannion is going to set passing records, but I’d take about fifty guys off the all-time Pac-12 passing yard list ahead of him. Ask Warren Moon about passing yards and what they mean.

In general, this is classic Riley, and Gina didn’t really press him, which is disappointing.

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  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Beg to differ that this game is more winnable than Hawaii. SDSU played a top 25 team tough on the road last week. Although I admit I know nothing about UNC this year, only an interception in the end zone by UNC with about 15 seconds left saved their asses. SDSU is better this year. MUCH better than Hawaii. Idk why you are so big on Hawaii. They are not that good.

    • angry angry says:
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      I’m not big on Hawaii. It’s more that traveling there is tough. But they have played 2 pac-12 schools and were within 1 score of each, and they lost like 6 one score games last year. SDSU and Hawaii play Oct 12th so we’ll see which one is better. I personally would rather play SDSU at home than travel to Hawaii…

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        bet even Colorado beats them this weekend. And the buffs are awful

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    how bout cleaning up those 13 penalties a game coach

    • ObjCritic says:
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      That’s there identity right now, don’t want to take that away.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    The Beavers rank dead last (124th out of 124) in penalties per game (13) and 122nd (third-to-last, if you’re keeping score at home) in penalty yards per game (109).

    Not shocking. And pathetic

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/09/an_early_look_at_beavers_place.html

  • ObjCritic says:
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    What was funny was Banker’s pre-Hawaii remarks…(paraphrasing) “They’ve really found their identity with that run game. They’ll pound the ball and punish you.”

    Riley is a mid-level MAC coach or something with mid-level Mac results: Dependence on passing game and occasional threat to superior opponents, gaudy QB stats due to passing emphasis, inconsistent play, not strong in all three phases of the game, rarely if ever play well for all four quarters, underdog mentality…

    The difference is Riley has more physically capable/talented players that could be coached to higher performance and greater consistency.

  • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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    I think the take of a lot of AB posters is that the coach is supposed to push the identity on to the team, as that’s their interpretation of what a leader does.

    People have also been critical of Riley, saying he’s stubborn and arrogant, re: continuing to be pass heavy on offense. To me, he’s gone from a very balanced offense, to pass oriented in just the last couple of seasons. At the same time, I think people have acknowledged that until this season, they haven’t been able to run the ball worth squat. Seems like he was flexing the offense to it’s strengths, and now is in the process of swinging back to a more balanced offense.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      the offensive line is still garbage. Get to the root of the problem. Replace Cavanaugh

    • ObjCritic says:
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      I think the head coach has to define the team’s identity. Relying on young people with little life experience, little to no NCAA football experience, and all of the college distractions to “find their identity” is asking for a poorly defined identity, or one which is found late (slow, within-season starts, success only with upperclassmen at the end of their NCAA careers).

      I would say Riley’s implied identity is a “balanced,” yet complex offense (and apparently defense), that tries to get better all the time. He once said they coach to the slowest players (the ones that take the longest to learn the schemes).

      Riley can ill afford to implement complex schemes and give his players an indefinite amount of time to find themselves given his ability to recruit and recruit all position groups, get depth, and all of the other responsibilities and distractions his student-athletes face.

      I know people tend to hate Chip Kelly, but he said “We want to be the fastest team in the country. We want to play fast. We coach to the fastest learners on the team. We challenge our special teams and D to score 10 TD per year.”

      In the case of both programs, the coaches define, or defined, their teams’ identity.. UO certainly has speed, they play fast, their special teams and D score…Riley’s teams struggle with complex schemes, they move slowly, methodically, plays develop slowly, units (e.g. offensive line) develop slowly, can’t manage time/clock, etc.

      Riley might say he leaves the identity definition up to the kids, but he really is defining the team’s identity, he’s just not taking responsibility for it.

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      Count me in with that “lot of AB posters” if pushing an identity means setting clear and measurable goals and keeping those at the forefront in all teaching and practicing. That is what a good leader does. As has been said, “If you aim for nothing that is exactly what you are likely to accomplish”.

      Riley is the HEAD COACH, team members follow what they think is his lead. As ObjC said above, he is establishing an identity but doesn’t want to take responsibility for it.

      One could write a book of focused motivational quotes from Pat Casey. His guys don’t have to guess where he stands. Riley? Not so much; what does “searching for our identity” mean to a 19 year old?

  • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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    Sounds like Cam Oliver wont be a Beav and will instead go juco route. Also, reading that Tinkle is going to have open tryouts to bring in as many as 5 walkons this season. Still no word on the status of Baker other than he’s recovering and will be reevaluated later.

    http://m.gazettetimes.com/sports/beavers-sports/osu-men-s-basketball-tinkle-says-positive-steps-being-made/article_4453f6fc-379d-11e4-a7c1-001a4bcf887a.html?mobile_touch=true

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      its no wonder the fucks at educk laugh at the stupidity on that site when you post ignorant shit like that

      • helmsley says:
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        I don’t want to read that site anyway but I have looked at it a time or two. It’s a dizzying experience with all the fonts and twitter-like comments and names and I can’t tell who is answering whom (or is it whom is answering whom or whom is answering who or who is answering who) which is how I felt anytime I tried to read Pureorange comments.

  • jeff says:
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    I am actually really annoyed that they are not playing this weekend. If you are gonna travel to Hawaii you only do it so you can schedule a 13th game. They should have gotten a low level MWC, Sunbelt, or MAC school in Corvallis this Saturday.
    Hell, even a 2nd FCS opponent is better than no game. When they cry poor but don’t take advantage of an opportunity to schedule a 13th game it ticks me off.
    Also, the problems they’ve had (false starts for instance) are difficult to fix in practice, you need to fix them under game conditions.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Eli Manning: 18/33, 163 yds, 1 TD, 2 INT…

    Not sure of all of the context of the game, but his struggles clearly continued the first game.

  • Homefry Homefry says:
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    I see my buddy Jamie Stangel still has eligibility….

  • Mb says:
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    Bend Beaver. Compare the laser sharp words in the Tinkle article with the evasive or noncommittal answers of Coach Riley. Tinkle is telling us fans to back off this year. He is telling us exactly where he is headed and why. And he challenges us to evaluate him thru the success or failure of the 2015 recruiting class. Of course the leader must lead and not defer to the whims in the play pen. I can tell you from experience that working with an extremely nice guy who will not lead is extremely frustrating and ultimately corrupting. The clue was in the post Hawaii game discussion about penalties. Coach Riley felt better because there were less mental errors and more judgemental calls. There my friend, is a master of situational ethics. He has inferred that his guys happened to get caught. Now we all realize that officiating can be very fickle and often unfair. Still, in public I don’t think that the “work on stuff” inference sets a reasonable or ethical standard for the troops to follow.

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      I’m aware of the contrasting styles, but both bring positives and negatives. Riley’s coaching style where the leadership and team identity is placed back on the team to develop can also clash with the offensive scheme that takes eons to learn. The differences in basketball and football are interesting. With basketball, you have a much smaller group of guys, and if the leadership influence works with the team, it’s a real neat deal. If it doesn’t, a talented team can suck balls. I think with football, there’s more variables at play (more player, coaches, 22 + individualized roles,etc). I think it’s easy fan logic to look at a coach and identify things we want and don’t see, and say if we had the opposite, the team will be better.

      • Jack says:
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        The leadership you describe is an affiliative democracy. While these methods have some usefulness in certain situations, they are not helpful on the field. Overall, we need a coach (instead of a democracy) who is visionary (sets guidelines and goals) instead of affiliative.

      • Mb says:
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        I played for Jim Sochor, one of the most successful college coaches ever. A very quiet and cerebral guy who never yelled, never raised his voice and had almost no rules. If you had a lab that conflicted with practice, then you missed practice. Not all leadership is loud nor attention seeking. Certainly some delegation is necessary when you lead a large group. But all 65 guys knew the plan Stan. And Jimmy always had a plan that was well articulated though usually very complicated.

    • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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      Even Tinkle ses the vague coach talk youre talking about. In the Gazette article linked earlier he talks about starting with his 2015 class “and then kindof build from there.”

      “Kindof build from there” doesn’t sound lazer sharp to me

      • Jack says:
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        Unfortunately, you can’t talk about recruiting too specifically.

  • dickie says:
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    I don’t get how UO is ranked 30 places ahead of OSU when they don’t even have a stats department let alone engingeering.

  • EggSale says:
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    Anyone know where to find some 1920’s OSC Football’s for sale? Heard they may have been available online for the right price. Some inside guy supposedly got his hands on some and looking to turn a quick buck. Suppose I can trust it?

    • Jack says:
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      I can guarantee that anyone selling anything “OSC” from the1920’s is completely full of bullshit and is a total fraud.

  • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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    Pretty damning report here on UofO and their timing with how they handled the gang rape case last year.

    http://www.katu.com/news/investigators/Protecting-the-program-Lives-have-been-destroyed-due-to-the-negligence-of-University-of-Oregon-administrators-APR-274358541.html?tab=video&c=y&mobile=y

    • Jack says:
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      I only scanned the article yesterday. It’s pretty long and detailed.

      One thing I didn’t see… when Gottfredson resigned with one day’s notice, did he receive anything in severance… like all of us would get from any of our jobs?

    • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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      Does anyone think anything will actually ever happen to them at this point?

      Clear evidence of Loss of Institutional Control can be made yearly, yet they just keep on skipping along.

      When does enough eventually become enough?

  • Jack says:
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    Gee… I don’t know how I missed this on a Friday… on a site I don’t usually read… three days after Commitment Day.
    http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2014/09/05/oregon-state-beavers-wayne-tinkle-tres-tinkle

    But I do see that Lindsay tried to ask (or push) the same dumb idea that you can’t recruit to Corvallis. Apparently she didn’t get the usual, “Yeah… aw shucks,” answer.
    ____

    As for the notion that location makes Oregon State less attractive — with a population of roughly 55,000, Corvallis isn’t exactly a major metropolitan area — Gottlieb isn’t buying it.

    “Do you think guys go to Lawrence, Kan., because it’s a cool town?” says Gottlieb, the brother of former college point guard Doug Gottlieb. “No, it’s because they have a tremendous basketball tradition. Kansas is a perfect example of what you can build.

    “At one time, Oregon State was that place — why not again?”
    ____

    What? A coach thinks greatness has to do with the program itself? Heresy!

    • Jack says:
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      And does Lindsay know that Doug Gottlieb is the brother of former college point guard Gregg Gottlieb?

      Perhaps she knows that the brothers are also the sons of former Oregon State assistant coach Bob Gottlieb?

    • ObjCritic says:
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      Thanks for posting/linking. Right on Gottlieb, someone states it plain. There are many different schools around the country that are not located in urban or “ideal” locations that possess traditions of winning programs.

      I don’t know that Riley ever actually uses the ‘Corvallis hard to recruit to” excuse, the media provides for him plenty. I remember once Schnell even tried to briefly contrast Eugene as more desirable; its not the town, it’s the Nike connection and the ridiculous player facilities designed to overwhelm 18-year olds with coolness and grandeur.

      I look forward to the day when OSU hires an energetic, competent, progressive football coach, who realizes he can create an identity and build a consistently competitive program, get Reser finished, make it a difficult place to play, and make the game watching compelling for OSU alumni and fans.

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        I think you may be correct about our coaches never using that canard themselves, rather the media pushing it. But you also don’t get the coaches bristling to that type of question. So they acquiesce.

        Meanwhile, back at the ranch, our hoops coaches had Keith Smith Jr. visit this past weekend, and he’s saying a lot of good things about OSU. He was one of the first players offered by Tinkle when he got here.

        And our staff is on the trail to watch Payton Pritchard and JaQuori McLaughlin today. While I’ve heard that Pritchard may be a lost cause for OSU, it’s interesting that our coaches are still on him hard.

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          It looks like our coaches are aiming high for the next next class. It would be great to bring in the top NW guys as a strategy.

        • Calibeav03 says:
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          As a kid who came to Corvallis from Southern California in 1998.. I can tell you that its not even as bad as people make it out to be.. I had the fortune of traveling some prior to college but pretty much found the city cool from the very beginning.

          My buddies who would come up to visit also found Corvallis to be a cool change of pace. You can easily sell kids from LA etc. on the difference of going to play in a college town where they are seen as the superstars..Its not hard at all. I always knew I would move back to LA at some point so I welcomed the chance to live somewhere different and unique.

          • Jack says:
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            That’s another good angle… and not just for athletes, but for any kid:

            “You have a chance to experience something different than what you’re used to. Why are you going to stay home? Be adventurous while you can. If you make the big show, then you’re going to be living in some metropolis where you can find all you want to experience and more. And you’ll have the means to experience it all and take care of your own and go home and be set for life afterward. If you don’t make it to the next level, like 99% of college football players, you can be happy that you tried something and someplace different. And you can always go home with your degree and all the positive endorsements from the most respected college football coach out there with all the tools you need to succeed in life. You will be able to choose your path and your future and be back at home comfortable knowing you can succeed with all we will give you here.”

          • helmsley says:
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            I don’t think you need to explain or semi-apologize for Corvallis on any level. You’re not asking the recruits for a lifetime commitment. I don’t get it – Corvallis is scenically lovely & not that far from a terrific metropolitan area as well as the coast. OSU is a highly respected university with a beautiful campus. Beats the hell out of me how, if an athlete is going to school and playing at DI level in a competitive program which requires year-round commitment, s/he will have time to even notice where they are.

          • Jack says:
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            This angle isn’t a knock on Corvallis. The only legitimate claim that makes any sense for recruiting difficulties is that the talent pools are located somewhere else, and kids, for the most part, want to be near home. Either they want to be the hometown hero playing for their favorite childhood team, or they just stick near enough to home because they can’t or won’t choose adventure. This angle tells them they can always go home, but they have a limited window of freedom of movement in their lives. And they should get out and see as much of the world as they can before that window closes.

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    Couple thoughts on the season so far…..

    I really like our size and athleticism on defense. Our weakest player on D is Larry Scott who consistently seems to be out of position or whiffing on tackles. Hopefully Hunt will get some reps soon or even the Freshman kid they were raving about (drawing a blank on his name). Would like to see more of Strong and Gwachum out there as well as both just seem to make plays when their number is called. Grimble and Hautau are HUGE and do a nice job stuffing the middle. OLB’s can do better at containing the edges to stop QB’s and RB’s from bouncing it outside IMO, maybe Strong can help fly in from the Strong Safety position?

    Personally I am impressed with Bolden, Hawaii knew it was going to him and he still got separation and made some impressive catches, especially his TD and the catch where he got absolutely destroyed held on for the catch, and popped up like know big deal. Kind of reminds me of a smaller Andre Rison going across the middle back in the day. I think he needs to work on his step off the line and not pump his hand over his head like Mario smashing bricks to get a better “burst”.

    Riley, oh man what can you say about this guy. At this point, I think there is something medically wrong with him. He looked bad in the Hawaii game, pale and weak looking. At one point he had his hands on his knees for what seemed like forever. I seriously thought he was having a stroke and was going to hit the deck. He just seems like he is not into it emotionally, and taking your headset off multiple times only to put them back on after Hawaii scores, to me just says “get me back on the plane”. We have talented players, just watched a bunch of them play on Sunday, however if your coach has no energy or passion you are not going to get the most out of your players. Coaching is our biggest weakness when it comes to winning games in the Pac, not talent on the field.

    Mannion will be fine if the run game continues to improve, as long as we can convert 3rd and shorts when Semaulo come back.

    Special teams, well it’s Bruce Read’s game so…..

    • ObjCritic says:
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      Scott was giving up first downs towards the end because he was looking at the sidelines too much. Grabbed one player and held him and didn’t seem to notice the ball was in play until the guy was almost too him…later in the same series he was again looking at the sidelines while Hawaii was attempting to play fast.

      What is that about? Seems like more poor communication and time management from the coaching staff. Don’t the call into the LB, and the down and distance, and hurry up nature, inform where Scott lines up and what he does? I honestly did not understand why he needed to be staring at the sidelines so long?

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        On that play where Scott was called for holding, half of the team wasn’t ready for the play to start. Basically only the D line was ready. Not that anyone would want to go back and re-watch that game but you will see that all of the line backers were turned looking at the sideline as the ball was snapped on that play.

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      Conner tweeted that Banker says Hunt hasn’t played yet because of the recovery from his hamstring issue, but is expecting him to play vs SDSU. Doubt he’ll replace Scott in the starting lineup I’m guessing it won’t take long.

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    No surprise, Eggers reports Isaac will not play vs SDSU. Also mentions that Riley considers 180 yards rushing to be, ” a benchmark for balance and offensive success”. Didn’t he (in one of the very very rare instances of publicly setting a goal) recently push for only 1500 yds/season?

    http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/232754-97340-beavers-showed-promise-first-half-lack-of-focus-fourth-quarter-vs-hawaii

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      Good ol’ Riley:

      “One, it looked like junior-high football or less,” Riley said. “We can’t let that happen.”

      That’s the second game in the row you’ve effectively said that. You’re still letting it happen.

      • On its final three possessions (not counting the last one, which featured three kneel-downs), Oregon State had 12 plays — nine rushes, an incomplete pass and two Mannion sacks.

      “I probably should have called some passes in there,” Riley said. “You kind of get stuck. You want to run the clock. The defense is piled in there. Really, you just need to execute and make some things happen. That’s when you’d like to be able to run the ball a little more effectively.”

      So, Mannion’s sacked in 2 of 3 attempts, and more passes are needed? How does he ever expect his O-Line to develop a tough, run-blocking mentality? I think implicitly the OLine must think “Oh well, if we can’t run, Coach will call passing plays and we can stand up and pass block…”

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    I am still going to hold off annoiting Bolden, given the fact that Hawaii has really bad DB’s. I want to see what he does against stiffer competition. However, he did impress me more last week. I don’t think he will be the kind of receiver Rodgers, Wheaton, and Cooks were as “go-to” guys that could and would be open most of the time. But I do see some growth from him.

    As far as Scott goes, I don’t think he is that bad. With Nelson on the one side, so Scott is going to get a majority of the balls thrown to him. He isn’t as good as Nelson but he is solid. He makes some plays, but you are right he also has some where he screws up. I liken him to Dockery who played a similar role as an underclassman and by his Senior year was our top corner. Part of the growth process.

    But I am really liking what I see from Strong.

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      I’d like to see what Rahmel Dockery can do in the passing game. He appears to have some good speed. I actually thought he was over 6 feet but that’s because he looks tall vs when Bolden in running the fly sweep.

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        I like Dockery as well, and would like to see what he could do too. Has Wark played at all?

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        I’m guessing we haven’t seen much of Dockery since he joined the team at the start of training camp and missed a full week of camp with a concussion. I can’t think of any other receivers with that short of time with the team making the field that quickly, likely due to the complexity of the playbook. I’m hoping to see him in the offense soon too, but that fumble probably didn’t win him any favors with the coaching staff.

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      Agreed on all points. Bolden is a good 3rd option at this point.

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    I may be late to the party, but it seems to me if Gina gets called out, she will actually ask the question, unlike Schnell last year. She doesnt know what everyone in Beaver Nation individually is thinking. If you want a specific question asked by her, someone has to tell her to ask it, not just sit here and stew about her not having ESP.
    I already like her a lot better than that joke of a reporter Schnell, now my opinion may change depending on what we see, but so far she has grilled Riley on a couple of occasions.

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      I think if people email her critical questions – not just negative – she’ll follow through. While Riley won’t ever answer directly, it’d be enjoyable to see his reactions.

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    Top 5 Coaching concerns:
    1. Slow Starts – While this may not always translate into losses, it definitely results in heart burn and nausea for fans and alumni. I have yet to see any coach lose to FBS schools two years in a row and not be fired. I actually like Coach Riley, but I hate that our first few games every year are as crisp as custard. This is a coaching issue as many other teams are able to field teams that are mentally and physically prepared to play the game. Win or lose, I want to see quality football played by the team. I can’t stand lack of leadership.
    2. Lackluster Play Calling – I watch every game and I honestly feel that the play calling is an effort to make 2-3 people seem superhuman and the rest of the players are like ensign umpty squat that beamed down to planet football with Captain Kirk. They are greatly ignored and often treated as expendable. I have heard that the playbook is extremely complex. Perhaps I am ignorant to some of the intricacies. I honestly feel like we run fly sweep, bubble screen, pass play, draw play and then repeat. How complex can the playbook be when it is variations of the same four plays. I can’t stand predictability
    3. Mediocre Recruiting – How are less successful schools in the PAC 12 getting better talent than OSU? We almost never get 4 star talents. I have yet to see a 5 star talent commit to OSU. I think that OSU does a pretty decent job of assessing lesser talent and developing recruits, but it has to be easier if you get better players with more athleticism. I can’t stand excuses.
    4. Misuse of Talent – Don’t get me wrong, I respect the Rodgers brothers and Cooks quite a bit, but I believe that they were over used in game planning while the rest of the offense took a back seat. This tells you that they have either no other talent on the offense or Mike Riley has a serious case of man-crush on his perceived star players and wants to ride them to a solid middle of the pack lower tier bowl game. I can’t stand mediocrity.
    5. Risk Aversion – The new trend in Football is take no prisoners and play up to the 60th minute. Unless you are the OSU coach in which you get a few points up and then just hope to hold on and bleed out the clock. I realize that in old school football no one wanted to run up the score on the other team. It was considered rude. Those days are gone. You teach your players to strive to win, all day, every day. Life doesn’t stop at noon, and football doesn’t stop once you get a few point buffer from your opponent. I can’t stand complacency.

    • Hopeful 'taint Hopeful 'taint says:
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      At first I thought your name was Hopeful “taint” aplan. Sort of has a ring to it, mind if I use that one?

      Regarding #5, I still have my suspicions that the point spread has some influence on the outcome in these games. The Beavs were up 38-7 going into the 4th, with a 10.5 point spread, and somehow get it down to 8 pts? I’m surprised we haven’t heard more from people who lost/won money on the final few minutes of this game when it looked like a blowout a few minutes earlier.

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      what he said

  • Calibeav03 says:
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    Good point. I got home from Hawaii last night in time to catch the 8 PM. sports center. Say what you want about ESPN but everyone watches it. Even though Neil Everett is a duck he tends to also give some love to us.

    During the top 10 segment he said the following:

    ” Brandin Cooks the rookie from Oregon State looked great.. You know who’s also from OregonState.. Jaquizz Rogers … look at him go its like a video game run… ”

    10 seconds later:

    ” Beaver Nation was everywhere Sunday checkout Derek Anderson with TD pass to Kelvin Benjamin”.

    Riley and gang have had notable NFL stars for years now and yet been unable to capitalize by getting more ELITE talent in the door .. That’s really frustrating

    • Jack says:
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      Just stop.

      You’re making too much sense.

      You’re on a blog. Cut that out now.

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