09.Sep.2014 Leach vs Riley Debate
I see people want to rehash the Leach vs Riley debate. Go for it. I’ll say that I don’t think it’s valid to compare yet for two reasons:
1. People are comparing apples to oranges. A guy in year 3 vs a guy in year 14. Leach still has Paul Wulff recruits on the roster. Riley 2.0 inherited a team that was 8-5 the previous year. You just cannot make an accurate comparison.
2. Transitive law (or the transitive property) does not apply to sports. Read this and this. For those too lazy to click the link, who just want to show up and say dumb shit like “Leach stinks, Angry is wrong” yada yada, here is the pertinent clip:
Here is an example of an unsound application of the transitive property: “Team A defeated team B, and team B defeated team C. Therefore, team A will defeat team C.”
That is pretty much exactly what you guys are doing. Do you realize you’re committing logical suicide?
A more accurate, though still flawed, comparison would be Leach’s first two years at WSU vs Riley’s first two years at OSU.
Leach was 9-16 after his first two years at WSU. After Riley’s first two years at OSU, he was 8-14. Leach is 5-13 in conference play over his first two years, and Riley was 2-14 in conference play over his first two years. If you’re going to make comparisons at least try to make it apples to apples. Note: we can’t compare beyond year three since Riley bailed on OSU to coach the Chargers to a 14-34 record, then came back to inherent Dennis Erickson’s work. Leach inherited Paul Wulff’s disaster.
Now would I take Leach over Riley today? Yes, and the reason is that with a decent roster Leach has proven he can take teams to bigger bowl games. Both coaches are flawed, so in that case give me the guy with a higher ceiling.