10.Dec.2014 Villamin Quote

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“I’m excited,” Villamin said. “Change is good. This new guy, I think he’ll bring some more energy and more fire, or whatever – stuff that Coach Riley couldn’t bring.”

Burn of the century.

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  • Hellobeavers says:
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    I personally like Mike Riley as a coach and I suspect he’ll do really well. I’m also rather annoyed at how the media paints oregon state and Corvallis as a bottom feeder. However, they’re sports writers for shitty publications and their opinion isn’t worth a whole lot. I do however think they are in some way damaging the reputation when they write shit like that repeatedly.

    I’m mostly looking forward to moving past the old narrative. From that article linked in the previous post, the following paragraph bothers me most. It’s the paragraph we’ve all read a thousand times by every goddam writer that passes thru town:

    “But, what cannot be forgotten is where Oregon State was before Riley arrived. OSU’s last winning season was 1970; Riley’s five-win season in 1998 – his second season as coach, and his last in his first stint at OSU – was the first time the program won five games since 1971.”

    To the author(s): a) we’re well aware of the history of Oregon state by now. B) fuck off

    This is a great hire that makes all those writers look stupid since they get paid for their expert analysis. They should never be allowed to be forgiven when OSU proves them wrong.

    I actually hope that the new coach closes practice to the media like the Ducks.

    • angry angry says:
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      From what I’ve read, he usually closes practice.

    • helmsley says:
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      imho – the important thing with Goe in particular – he was beating the biggest crap drum – and assuming you still read Oregonian articles about the Beavs – don’t comment, no matter how stupid he sounds. (and looks on his videos).

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        Goe is a duck honk to the bone and will take any parting shot he can to shit on OSU. He doesn’t want to be on the OSU beat and this is his way of showing it. He admitted earlier this year he didn’t even attend practices. How can one be a beat writer without even attending practices? That makes you a lazy fuck just doing the bare minimum to skate by. I’m sure he had other assignments but OSU was his lowest priority. Fuck him and the Boregonian

    • helmsley says:
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      I don’t believe they do pass through town. One of them says it and they all write it without any knowledge whatsoever – it’s the oldest propaganda ploy in the world – keep repeating it and everyone will think it’s true. If you ran all the recent articles through filtering software, you would get the same words and phrases over and over.

    • mckalk says:
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      What the media doesn’t understand is that there was a lot of real shitty, non competitive football from around ’79 to ’87 and then things got closer at times. Kragthorpe had some teams that could move the ball and they had two decent 4 win seasons. Pettibone had a couple of 4-7 teams that other coaches called the best 4 win team in the nation, look at the scores, some heartbreaking losses. Pettibone had a team that only gave up 237 points all season and they went 1-10 because they could not score. Pettibone did fall apart in ’96 and it cost him his job, but the media makes it sound like every season from 70-96 was 0-11. That just was not the case AND it was Erickson who finally coached his team to a winning season, who knows when it would have happened with Riley as the coach. Hopefully, this Riley as program savior bullshit will now stop.

  • Beavers4life says:
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    Lol saw this too…yup, motivating your players is a part of coaching…I feel we will go to a bowl game next year. 6+wins is not out of the question. Am I wrong?

    • Riko says:
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      I don’t see it happening. The Pac is as competitive as its ever been, our guys will most likely be learning a new system, and we simply don’t have much talent right now.

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      Eh, 6 wins is possible, probably gotta beat Michigan in the nonconference to do so though.

      • HireMattWells says:
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        Or Washington at home near the end of the season. They should beat WSU and Colorado and have a pretty reasonable shot @Cal. Get those and that UW game and Andersen would have the Beavers bowlin’ in Year 1. Lots of work to do, but it is doable. Can’t wait to see a meatier rushing attack at Oregon State.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Whiskey just got home this from a fam obligation and got the news vis text this afternoon. Let me just say, I like this hire. no, I love it. Wait. I FUCKING love it! Great job Bob D and athletic department. You pulled it off. And I really hope that Anderson’s D Coordinator Dave Arando is coming with him. If it hasn’t been discussed already…………….

    4th in total defense, 17th in rushing defense, tied for 8th in passing defense, 13th in scoring defense. That was this past season. You hear that Banker? Fuck you!!!!!! And Fuck yeah!!!! Can we put the “no one wants to come to Corvallis” baby to bed.

    Signed,

    Whiskey

    PS, Fuck you Buker

    PPS, DOUBLE FUCK YOU Lindsay and Goe

    PPPS, THANK YOU NEBRASKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Tim Alexander says:
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    I was hoping for Pettibone 🙁

  • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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    Ouch

  • wannabeav says:
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    Villamin is the first voice from the locker room to say what we’ve been preaching here (under Angry’s tutelage) for years: the players were desperate for leadership and good coaching

    • cj cj says:
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      You really think Villy meant what his words say? Remember he’s still a 19-year old kid.

      I don’t think he was trying to diss Riley at all.

      • Jim says:
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        No, but he may have been stating the facts, or at least his opinion. Sometimes the truth hurts [Riley].

  • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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    Goe just wrote an article and there is no comment button. He probably had it turned off to avoid the heat. I spoke with my 79 year dad today. I mentioned Goe will have to eat cow-pie and he said “you read the Oregonian? Hell I refuse to touch that shitty paper.” He still makes me laugh.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      the boregonian is good for two things. Lining your bird cage or cat shit gravel box with. That’s about it. I buy a sunday one every so often in the winter for starting fires in the woodstove. I never even open the pos

    • Issaquahbeav says:
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      Noticed that, too. Total coward. Goe will never admit he’s wrong.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      I did go on OLive today to the most recent Goe article and told him he and Schnell could apologize now…did something similar on another article.

      • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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        No comments available on Canzano’s article, either.

        • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          they’re both thin skinned pussies who will never admit when they are wrong

  • Riko says:
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    Hopefully I’ll know how to pronounce “Kauha’aha’a” by spring time.

  • Beavers4life says:
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    https://twitter.com/rahmeldockery/status/542837527392948224

    Rahmel dockery tweeted out saying he got his scholly back!

  • angry angry says:
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    Forget the Oregonian and everything else. Focus on that villamin comment.

    It is AMAZING.

    He should be posting here.

    • BeavGirl BeavGirl says:
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      Translation: “Riley water-boarded us with his wet blanket attitude for years and we almost died” lol

    • wannabeav says:
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      Villamin’s comment is the ultimate tribute to your original insight, Angry. Enjoy the moment. You’ve been vindicated. Again, thanks for all you’ve done for us

  • angry angry says:
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    My new tweet. I am after the media:

    “You can’t recruit to Corvallis” either means (a)Mike Riley is talking to himself in the mirror or (b)A lazy journalist is writing gibberish

  • mckalk says:
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    What I don’t understand with the media is that RILEY LEFT ONCE BEFORE and everything worked out fine, why would you automatically think it can’t work again? To me it’s real ignorance in understanding/acknowledging how college football has changed the last 20 years and ignorance regarding Mike Riley’s in game and motivational abilities. A case can be made that Riley UNDERACHIEVED with the talent that was developed and that there should have been two or three Rose Bowls.

    • angry angry says:
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      All I can think is that they bought into the propaganda Riley insinuated to them. They loved how his easy access made their job easy, so they didn’t want to ruffle anything. That’s what it seemed like. The media also has a bit of an incestuous/small town thing going on. Next target is the media…really need a shakeup there.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        Riley was lackadaisical and didn’t work which allowed them to do the same. Do your fucking job and know your role!

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      that’s also for all the Corvallis haters. Goe, Puker, fat ass, Ted Miller. ANYONE that said, you can’t recruit to Corvallis. No one wants to go there. Why would anyone want to coach there?

      FUCK ALL OF YOU. RIGHT IN THE PUSSY!

      • angry angry says:
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        Add “every 60 year old fart on blitz”

        The same guys who get cranky when someone stands up and cheers at a game

        • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          They’ll all be dead sooner than we will. So we got that going for us. Which is nice

      • Electric Eye says:
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        You sir, are ON FIRE tonight!

        • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          I’m all fired up! Full of piss and vinegar. In a good way. Like angry says, it feels good to be vindicated

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Most of it is intellectual laziness on their part; the Riley narrative was convenient.

    It wasn’t that it couldn’t work again if Riley left, part of the narrative was that OSU couldn’t attract a talented and/or big name coach and if they did, the person WOULDN’T STAY because its “not a destination job.” So the false narrative was that there was no point in change.

    What that lazy narrative ignores is that people change jobs at institutions. Coaches or otherwise. Change is not a bad thing, it requires management, but they never wanted to think about what that means, – i.e. among other things you need a proactive AD who will sell the university and town and can get donor support.

    BDC kind of fell into this one with Riley leaving voluntarily. I really suspect Riley didn’t want to start over with a young qb and defense and left before his “legacy” further deteriorated; he had gone below .500 in league play this season and was only trending down at a faster rate. He was not competing in the PAC anymore.

    BDC corrected the Robinson problem, appears to have done well with Tinkle, and the Anderson hire is a watch-the-ball-leave-the-park-and-trot-slowly-’round-the-bases home run. He needs to move on soon due to health issues, and he can leave a good legacy. OSU then can hopefully have that proactive, energetic AD so that when Andersen leaves in 6 years or less, another competent coach is brought in. I don’t know if Masari(sp?) is that guy, I hope he is.

    Change, as has been made clear, can be good. The lazy media will now have to change their lazy narrative.

  • Electric Eye says:
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    Riley’s non-use of available talent was troubling.

    Here are a couple of examples-

    Ryan Nall. That kid could have played as a true freshman. He would have been the best LB (any of the spots), the best TE, and/or could have lined him up as a fullback/hybrid position to block, receive, run the ball. But Riley doesn’t like playing young guys. Even when they’re better than everyone above them on the depth chart.

    Dwayne WIlliams- true freshman CB. Only about 5’9″, but was the 2nd best cover guy on the team, the best run support CB overall, and just a ball hawk. The first day that WIlliams stepped on the field he was a better player than Larry Scott. Not even close.

    This is one of Riley’s many “old school philosophy” failures. Schools around the country are playing true freshman because they are better than older guys on the roster. It’s not a totally new concept Riley, jesus. Some freshmen aren’t physically ready to play, I understand that. Nall and WIlliams were definitely ready to play.

    And then to put the icing on the cake, Riley goes and burns Hawkin’s redshirt year for somewhere in the neighborhood of 5-6 plays the entire season. So stupid.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      thank you. Another Rileyism that irritated many of us. Loyalty to guys that had been in the program longer that just had no business being on the field over younger guys that were just as good or better. Nebraska. The gift that keeps on giving!

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      Nall did redshirt yes?

    • ObjCritic says:
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      wasn’t williams listed at 175 lbs though? A couple of those young CBs were ball hawks, but may they were light.

    • thatguy says:
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      That Hawkins burning might have been the most obvious silly decision all year. Maybe not, but the one that grinds my gears.

      I’m still pissed about that, just because I think he’s going to be a really useful player in 4 years, but he won’t have any eligibility left. At the time, we had 4 RB’s (Woods, Ward, Haskins, Brown) and 4 TE’s (Clute, Wark, Hamlett, Smith) ready to play. Instead of burning a kid’s redshirt to be able to add your little wrinkle because Dockery and Bolden are hurt, why not…run different plays and change your gameplan around a bit?

  • Calibeav03 says:
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    Yup! Hawkins should be able to sue Riley for dumb assedness… To me that was yet another chink in the armor of Riley not really being as good a dude as people make him out to be. Once Hawkins redshirt was burned he should have been included in a few packages every game or back returning punts and kickoffs.. Something instead he just sat on the sidelines all game.

    What a waste..

  • Calibeav03 says:
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    You cant even make this stuff up:

    http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/243517-111003-mike-riley-gut-wrenching-decision-to-leave-oregon-state-bittersweet-

    “I’m not sure where we’re going to live,” Riley said, “but I’m told there are places in town where there are bike paths, and I wouldn’t even have to get onto a street to bike to work.”

    That sounds good to Riley, who in good weather in Corvallis opted not to drive his Prius to work, instead taking his 12-speed on the mile-and-a-half trip.

    “The two things I’ll miss most about Oregon State are the players and the lifestyle,” he said. “We had so many great kids in our program. I’m really going to miss them. And we had some a comfortable, easy lifestyle in Corvallis.”

    • Jack says:
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      His 12 speed sure looked like a Range Rover to me.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      enjoy that Nebraska winter Mike. Good riddance A-hole

    • wannabeav says:
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      you have only to read his discursions, evasions, and in one bold instance honesty (it was comfortable and easy in Corvallis) to see why he was a bad coach. or perhaps better put, a “used up” coach, as Angry posited years ago with his analysis several years ago.

    • mckalk says:
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      After I read this shit….I wondering if Nebraska did some kind of “mental soundness” test on Riley…..I think I’m only half joking. Things were being set up for Riley to be fired at the end of the 2015 season, he knew it after his meeting with BDC and somehow lucked into the NU job. Riley landing this job, not the list of OSU candidates is by far the greatest mystery of this whole event!

  • Calibeav says:
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    Off to bed but thought this stat was a gem

    PENALTIES
    The Beavers frequently hurt themselves with penalties at key moments this season. They committed 107 penalties, tying for fourth-most nationally, which cost them 958 yards.

    The Badgers committed 62 penalties, ranking 92nd nationally, which cost them 579 yards.

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