25.Jan.2015 Back to Recruiting…

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Irvine liked Wake. Someone here said he’s going to de-commit from the Beavs. We’ll see. He’s also visiting Maryland, so consider him soft. Hopefully the Beavs can keep him. He’s a good looking CB.

Did Noah commit? His twitter implies he did.

Anyone with info on this past weekend? It’s been pretty quiet.

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  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Coaches are heading to SLC for in homes. Sounds like Folau’s spot at Oregon was filled and he’s down to Utes and Beavs, and he lives in SLC. Togiai lives there too, so my guess would be those are tomorrows’s visits.
    Also, I was premature when I thought Simmons commited to the Utes. It was one of his Juco teammates the article was talking about. Simmons visits Beavs this coming weekemd amd Utah the following I believe.

  • Electric Eye says:
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    I think the Beaver coaching staff kicked some ass this weekend. They’re going to get multiple commits.

  • Electric Eye says:
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    And I put this little nugget in the last thread, but Aydon and Tago are on campus right now.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Do you use twitter EE? you seem to have pretty good info

    • Electric Eye says:
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      I live in town and know quite a few people in athletic dept. I’ve looked at twitter, no account though.

      BTW, one of those kids has a mom with him. So they’re serious about this visit. OSU can’t pay for family airfare.

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        Which one?

      • wannabeav says:
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        you see, this is what I mean about the collegial guild-like community that is AB. You can’t BUY information like this. (pun intended)

      • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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        well thanks for sharing what you know with us. you always bring good stuff

  • scotty says:
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    We need to tag our coaches with RFID chips πŸ˜‰

    • Jack says:
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      That’s all good. But then you would need to create RFID portals or gates where we could track them. Then we would need to alter society so that it was just a normal, everyday occurrence when they pass through these gates.

      Then John Preston will break away from our new society, remove his RFID, and go after us. And we could have 20 dudes for security, but he would just mow them down and kill us in the end.

      I’m selling.

  • AfghanBeav AfghanBeav says:
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    David Moore is a 4* now? Wasn’t he a 2* when we initially offered him?

  • Dansen says:
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    If Irvine flips, does that mean Thomas is gone as well? Weren’t they sort of a “package deal”?

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      I’m not worried about an Irvine flip. Andrew Nemec said he sent him a text/pic of him wearing Beavs gear and expecting to do great things. that was tonigjt after he returned from the Wake visit.

      • Dansen says:
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        Yeah, I think he’s solid with the Beavs as well. I was asking more as a hypothetical, I guess. Shortly after his OSU visit, I saw a picture of him wearing all Beaver gear at what looked like a high school basketball game. I couldn’t imagine he’d wear that and then go somewhere else.

  • angry angry says:
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    Beavs get Katoa, a 2-star (rivals) 3-star scout.

    http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1247155/lopini-katoa

    • Electric Eye says:
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      Good! He’s a key piece to getting Thor Katoa.

      • angry angry says:
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        Another 2 star.

      • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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        Thor tweeted out something like “it’s about to get crazy”, shortly before Lopini’s commitment was announced. Thinking that might mean Thor will be transferring over to the Beavs soon.

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      Lopini Katia is a mission guy, so who knows if/when we’ll actually ever see him. I think Folaou would be too wherever he signs

      • Jack says:
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        Folau probably comes with another mission kid… one who is already one year into his… and was a part of GA’s 2014 class.

        • angry angry says:
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          How many of these guys are doing missions? That could be another problem.

  • angry angry says:
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    Definitely concerned about the state of recruiting.

    I like some of these 2-stars and think they’re 3-stars, but they can’t win big with an entire class like that. They need some legit players to build a foundation around, and I am seeing all good complimentary players rather than foundations.

    • TurdBurglar says:
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      Agreed. This class is turning out to be a major flop. Was expecting more from Andersen & Co…

      • angry angry says:
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        Even Riley is recruiting well…his incoming class is fantastic. Mike Leach at WSU has a top 20 class. Beavs are going to be in trouble if something doesn’t change.

        I realize Andersen was behind the 8 ball due to Riley’s timing, but “great recruiters” use their connections and get the job done. Maybe it’s true that you can’t recruit to Corvallis??

        • TurdBurglar says:
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          The Cougs are absolutely killing it…blows my mind.

          Andersen seems like a “no excuses” type of guy. Really surprised he hasn’t been able to close on some higher rated guys. It’s not like he started with a blank slate. He’s been developing relationships w/ these recruits for a couple years and hasn’t been able to flip anybody worth noting. Same goes for the rest of his staff…

          Not good…

        • Numbers says:
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          I call BS. Riley had a great class lined up for him by 11wins-in-2014-Bo. (11 is beyond Riley’s ceiling). And Riley left behind very little of Value for 2015. A better judgement at this stage is the 2016 class. I want to see some good recruits, but I’m respecting his time and process at this point. And yes, down the line we will need more.

          • angry angry says:
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            I don’t follow Nebraska recruiting, so I’m not sure how much Riley has to do with their class, but at worst it seems he kept Bo’s recruits (any flips?) and brought in some of his better ones (like Snyder).

            This isn’t really about Andersen vs Riley. That was a footnote. What the bigger point is the Beavs need to get some foundation recruits STAT.

          • Electric Eye says:
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            Riley already lost one to Harbaugh yesterday and will lose Snyder to Harbaugh this week.

          • WFO WFO says:
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            Harbaugh will take anybody he wants from Riley like taking candy from a baby.

            It will actually be entertaining to watch Urban Meyer vs Jim Harbaugh in recruiting and on the field. The only guarantee is that Riley will never beat either of them.

          • scotty says:
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            Riley also has the Nebraska name and resource advantage now.

          • WFO WFO says:
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            True.

            There will always be the 5 star kid that grew up in state wanting to go to Nebraska. I mean even Riley couldn’t Fuck that one up right?

          • Jack says:
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            Heh… yeah.

        • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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          Leach has been #56, #53, #70, and is #29 this year in recruiting class ranks. It’s not like he did it overnight and this year could just be lucky anyway.

        • presleydog says:
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          I would say though Andersen has put in some more work than Harbaugh

          http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24992159/jim-harbaugh-lands-his-first-two-recruits-at-Michigan

          I’ve been impressed with the activity he’s gotten in a very short time frame. Plus I still believe you can get quality 2-3 star guys if you have the eye for it. Recruiting services are lazy.

    • Beav11 says:
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      Was angry hacked by Beav11?

      • Jack says:
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        Yeah… he’s been an irrational dick for most of his posts.

        I apologize for him being so because that’s my role, and I must have failed to fulfill it properly.

      • Jack says:
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        Wait… I misunderstood the question.

        You’re not normally an irrational dick. Are you?

  • Mb says:
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    Hey turd, where did you expect these recruits to come from? If at the end of the day, they get no one else, then you have a legitimate beef. Why don’t you just come out and say that you are anti Polynesian?

    • TurdBurglar says:
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      I expected Andersen/Woods/Kauha’aha’a to bring 3-4 recruits from Wisconsin and Sitake/Tuiaki to do the same from Utah. It hasn’t happened. Thus we’ve settled for a bunch of two-stars…

      • WFO WFO says:
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        Honestly, I was expecting the new staff to bring a couple of good recruits with them.

  • Bill says:
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    The recruiting class has been underwhelming so far. I am not excited about any of these players coming in. But we’ll see what happens this weekend. Let’s see how good the coaches are at closing.

  • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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    CB Jay Irvine (@Jay_underrated1) texted me a photo of himself in an Oregon State jersey today promising big things in his career at OSU— Andrew Nemec (@AndrewNemec) January 26, 2015

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Beavs 71st in RPI after today’s games. Next opponent ASU is 119th. Wed night is a winnable road game. I have no prediction as I said this was one of the swing games. I would not be surprised to see the Beavs win, nor surprised to see them lose. ASU is a better team than Wazzu. Wed/Fri games this week due to the super bowl in Arizona next weekend. Short turnaround. Hope the beavs get some rest.

    http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      Ken Pomeroy has the beavs at 62nd just ahead of UW (63rd). Allegedly he uses a more detailed analysis of data to come up with his rankings. But I know nothing about that shit so I don’t claim to be an expert

      http://kenpom.com/

      • Jack says:
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        His methodology is weighted in this way:
        1. Pace
        2. Offensive efficiency
        3. Defensive efficiency

        It’s not a bad formula. It’s probably more accurate than most out there. But I was a little pissed when he went behind the pay wall. I understand why he did it. He has a proprietary algorithm. But he should open up his pages to the data that he collects at the very least. I think he would garner a lot more traffic and subscriptions if he did so. I know I lived on that site when it was all free. I’ve looked at it maybe four times since he went pay wall.

  • Timber! says:
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    Way to help change that narrative guys.

    “This recruiting class stinks.”

    “This class is weak.”

    Blah blah blah. Blah blah blah. Blah blah blah. Blah blah blah.

    We all know a whole variety of folks read this site INCLUDING recruits.

    SHUT UP if you’re going to be negative about ALLEGED shortcomings in the YET TO BE DETERMINED recruiting class.

    • scotty says:
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      The ratings on the class stink. Results on field remain to be seen, and those are what matter. πŸ˜€

      This understandably causes angst as there is a correlation usually, and it smacks of Riley.

      I have no problem with the recruits. Always good to welcome new Beavers, so long as they’re quality people!

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      @Timber That’s the same Bull Shit that went on on the PO blog and the reason I moved over to Angry’s site.

      If the recruits decide to decommit because of what some dingle berry posts on some stupid ass blog page OSU probably didn’t want them anyway.

      • Jack says:
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        What are you saying? You must believe believe believe… or die… or something.

        Not that I would know, but I’m pretty sure dingleberry is one word. But now that I look at it, dingle looks better if it dangles.

  • angry angry says:
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    Again, I like some of the 2 stars and stood up for them (yes, some should even be rated higher). I just think they’re complimentary players, and the staff has to get cornerstones. They are failing at that. I don’t see any of these recruits as guys to build an offense or defense around. Now maybe there is synergy and the sum is greater than the parts. That is entirely possible. It would be nice to have some cornerstone athletes, though, in the event that doesn’t happen. Maybe that still happens, but I am getting nervous…

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      Paul Lucas and/or Alston would really help ease concerns. It’s concerning we don’t hear much about either considering Brennan has been on them for months.

      • angry angry says:
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        I’d like Noah, too. He’s a fluid TE and would make losing Snyder a wash.

        Barr and the LB from utah (forgetting his name) would help a lot, too.

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      @Angry – Shouldn’t we wait until the ink is on the paper and see who’s in the class before we ,,,?

  • angry angry says:
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    I still have hope things will turn. I can’t believe these coaches are this bad at recruiting, even on short notice. I think something happens. It just isn’t, so I’m doubting my belief in them.

  • Jack says:
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    So… we went from a blog who wants process and quality over flash and dash… to one where a lack of flash and dash derives extreme angst?

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      It did seem like the shift happened pretty quickly. Isn’t the typical expectation for a new football coach that they basically maintain the quality in the next fall’s recruiting class that the previous coach had locked in?

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    I think we end up with Decoud. At one point he said we were his leader but he was waiting to visit Baylor, pending a Baylor offer. Today, he cancelled that trip as Baylor still hadnt offered him. It’s likely between the Beavs and Louisville, and with that giant void left by Nelson graduating, he’d be a good fit and play immediately.

    • Jack says:
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      What about Williams?

      • Jack says:
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        … and Hunt?

        • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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          Two guys who didnt see the field over Scott? Yeah, we can blame the coaches, but if they were as good as people said they were in the summer, seems like we would have seen more of them.

          • Jack says:
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            What team and coaching staff have you been watching for the past decade?

          • Jack says:
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            If this Ryan Allen kid is as good as people say he is, seems like we would have seen more of him.

          • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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            yeah, you dont need to convince anyone. good night

          • Jack says:
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            I know I don’t, but these last two threads have been funky irrational angst threads.

            I usually thrive on chaos, but this just seems out of place

  • Jack says:
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    Someone needs to compile recruiting info. I was happy just to jettison most of Riley’s class, with nothing in return. That PSAs are moving in unity to come visit OSU is a little weird for me to watch. I’ve seen these January weekends with recruits hanging out here and there. But I’ve never seen the seemingly favorable circumstances of reality overtake all of OSU athletics and just slap me in the face like they are doing right now.

    Who have we lost? Who have we gained? Was this Snyder kid really all world? Even if he was, wouldn’t he just fall down when someone blew on him… if he didn’t jump early?

  • WFO WFO says:
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    Well, here’s a thought… maybe GA sees enough offensive talent on the roster that he doesn’t need to panic about filling the roster with guys who might play next year?

    Realistically, If Baldwin can scheme to the current roster with Storm and Villamin & co and one of the decent QBs that won’t trip over his own feet and go standing fetal I like the chances of a pretty effective offense. They’ll at least have the benefit of nobody having film on them til they play somebody good. Sneak attack factor?

    • Numbers says:
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      Really good concept, doesnt make sense to frantically recruit the dregs of this years class at the last minute, save the ships for next year’s full season of recruiting and use the talent currently onboard and then cherry pick the underated players at the needed positions.

      • Jack says:
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        Who needs underrated?

        We’ll take those for this class. But offers to and positive responses from 2016 PSAs are just astounding for a backwater town with no airport.

        • Numbers says:
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          A G5 can make Japan nonstop with plenty of runway to spare out of CVO, just fyi

          • Jack says:
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            The old runway is still there. It just needs some buy back and some TLC to make it the six click it once was.

  • scotty says:
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    Today on Cornhusker Comedy Corner:

    http://www.cornnation.com/2015/1/20/7863571/why-i-think-mark-banker-is-a-great-hire

    LOLOLOLOL πŸ˜€

    • Jack says:
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      I’m tired of that parody.

      Reason #1 why the NU hire of Banker is awesome:
      He isn’t the DC at OSU anymore.

    • WFO WFO says:
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      Why would Michigan State ask the guy who gets steamrolled how not to get steamrolled?

      I can’t wait to see the shell shocked looks in the NU stands as Banker frantically hand jives in a 40 point tOSU loss.

      • Jack says:
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        I do love how it isn’t Banker’s fault though. He told them what to do. They just didn’t execute.

        Haven’t heard that one before.

      • scotty says:
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        Love the comments after the post:

        “MSU collaborated with the Oregon State staff? Is that why they got blown away in the second half?”

        ” I refuse to read this because of your utter stupidity on past articles… ”

        Pretty funny how 95% of the time someone wants to hype Biley’s football prowess, they pull stuff from last decade.

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        To do the opposite?

  • Jack says:
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    And a little Beaver Juice?
    https://twitter.com/LMO3VAO/status/559565193496113153

  • Jack says:
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    Truly good…
    https://twitter.com/hacksaw1090/status/559760179617464320

  • Jack says:
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    AP polls are out. WBB up to #7.

    #Underrated

    • scotty says:
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      Just one SEC home cooked meal away from being in the top 3

      • Jack says:
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        No kidding.

        • Jack says:
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          Look at us… complaining that our WBB… sorry… Lady Beavs aren’t top three.

          Anyone out there have an ecology degree? What’s the term for a Lady Beav? Do the Colorado State fans call their womens’ teams “Lady Rams?”

          • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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            Colorado State fans call their womens’ teams β€œLady Rams?”
            **********************

            Ewes?

          • Jack says:
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            Well… that was boring. I was hoping BG would chime in first. Should I have gone with South Carolina first?

            Note: BG is probably hiding because of the North Star Cup.

          • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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            interesting. a Mrs. Cock actually exists.

            http://columbiametro.com/vsfu_242.jpg

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            Dude looks henpecked.

          • Jack says:
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            I suddenly feel better about our buck-toothed demon lollipop of a mascot.

          • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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            There are no special names for the male or female, but the babies are called kits.

            Source: http://www.beaversww.org/faq/ πŸ˜‰

            I guess I’m down with two separate but equal names for men’s and women’s teams.

            Oregon State Man-Beavers and Oregon State Lady-Beavers.

            Sounds nice.

          • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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            That’s “Gentlemen-Beavers”

          • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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            Last time I checked, this is AMERICA, Buddy.

            So I can call them whatever I want! πŸ˜›

            If you don’t like it, you can get out.

          • Jack says:
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            I’m interested in this “Man-Beaver” concept.

            I have a feeling conservatives disagree… and want to change the Constitution because of it.

          • Jack says:
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            I’m in, if just for that hypothetical.

          • WFO WFO says:
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            And if you can’t pronounce it go back to Mexico!

          • Jack says:
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            Dam straight!

            Wait….

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            Separate but equal went out with Brown v. Board of Education! Therefore, both teams will be referred to as the Lady Beavs πŸ˜‰

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            I’m pretty sure Article 1, Section 9, Clause 8 of the Constitution trumps that. If further legalities are necessary, go to Article 1, Section 10, Clause 1.

          • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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            Well, Lady-Beavers does sound better to me than Man-Beavers. I’m just glad we’re not South Carolina. Choosing between Man-Cocks and Lady-Cocks is a total Kobayashi Maru scenario IMO.

          • Jack says:
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            I really do appreciate the nod to the best of the ST movies… but when you put it in this context… all I can see is a Takero Kobayashi reference.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            Lady cocks? The South Carolina Tranny’s?

          • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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            So we play them for the right to the name! Winner take all….sort of.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            so if a player for south carolina blocks an opponents shot, does that mean the opposing player got cock blocked?

  • Jack says:
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    Ha!

    Can we get rid of that Okie State logo already? No wonder kids are confused.
    https://twitter.com/Simi_Fehoko/status/559766807846727681

  • Jack says:
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    I must admit… he’s right. It’s cool that it’s our side getting the bias. But it is ridiculous.

    Imagine having to live with that kind of bias for decades upon decades.

    Oh… wait… I’m a Beav. I don’t need to imagine anything.

    https://twitter.com/ute_pilot/status/559767286903357440

    • Jack says:
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      Sometimes I feel like the media is just an arm wrestling competition… but one with Sly Stallone in it… not one where… wtf am I talking about?

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        Our media needs to go “Over the top” to keep this truck hauling the Beaver product all over the nation.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Had been awhile since I’d heard anything about Chris Barr. Decommitted from Utah today. South Florida is really high on him, as well as Wisconsin. Thought I had read rumors in here that he was either related, or good friends with Taylor Thomas? Or was it Irvine? or both? Either way, he doesn’t have an OSU offer yet, but wonder if that is only a matter of time.

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      ….and Barr commits to South Florida. too bad

      • Jack says:
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        Maybe Ute fans can start directing their butthurtedness toward USF now?

        probably not….

  • calibeav says:
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    I think (and hope) a quick scan at the 2016 offer list is more telling of this Staff’s recruiting goals..

    They are lofty.

    5 stars: 4
    4 stars: 28
    3 stars: 12

    Riley’s initial offer list seemed to slant more heavily on the 3 star dudes and there was always a sprinkle of the 2 star and unrated guys from the get go.. The potential fall of from an offer list that starts this high should on its own merit warrant better classes.

    • Jack says:
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      It’s the “throw pasta at the wall” method of recruiting?

      We finally have a coach with a noodle arm?

      • Jim says:
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        He’s huntin’ with a 12 gauge, not a rifle.

        • Jack says:
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          I think is barrel is a little longer than most.

          Eewwww! That just sounds wrong.

          Suddenly, “my cold dead hands” sounds awfully phallic.

    • bleedorange says:
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      Exactly what i was thinking. We have to take into account u have to build a strong relationship with top recruits and get in early. This is more of a salvaging of the class trying to get bodies to fill out the class. A lot of the players look decent. If we get 20 plus recruits im happy. Next year will be far more telling.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    GP II and Jamie Weisner both earn Pac-12 player of the week honors. Weisner also was named ESPNW national player of the week.

    http://pac-12.com/article/2015/01/26/oregon-states-payton-ii-named-pac-12-mens-basketball-player-week

    http://pac-12.com/article/2015/01/26/pac-12-announces-womens-basketball-players-week

    http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30800&ATCLID=209864687

    • Jack says:
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      Maybe this is where the angst comes from.

      It might be all downhill from here.

      Now I know what it feels like to be a Cal fan… well… without the downhill actually occurring yet.

  • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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    Just chatted w/ Pac-12 Networks' Kevin O'Neill, who called @OregonStateMBB "a lock" for NIT. Said he thinks OSU could make NCAA tournament.— Connor Letourneau (@ConnOregonian) January 26, 2015

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      The conversation here is priceless:
      https://twitter.com/JeffEisenberg/status/559791703255568384

      “What the hell is going on out there!”
      –Vince Lombardi

    • angry angry says:
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      Uh oh, this is the exact type of thing players don’t need to be reading. Expect some losses now.

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        Absolutely agree – I hope the players aren’t reading or hearing any of this. I hate to think what Arizona is going to do to them on their home court.

      • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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        Tinkle seems on top of keeping them grounded.

        • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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          Yeah, I wouldn’t worry too much about that. My guess is that they were already thinking NIT & possible NCAA bid anyway without some schmoe in the press saying something.

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        Yeah, media members thinking the Beavers might be good means they’ll start losing a bunch of games. I highly doubt what the media thinks will impact anything on the floor. That’s just stuff fans get worried about

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    Steve Gress GT ?@stevegress19 9m9 minutes ago

    Gary Payton II was named the men’s Pac-12 player of the week so Oregon State had both POWs this week. #gtsports #gobeavs

  • angry angry says:
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    Interesting, I said Tuli Wily-Matagi was clearly a 3-star, and Rivals bumped him today (sorry if this is old news, haven’t read through the posts yet).

    I think K. Davis gets a bump to 3, too.

    • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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      I think all the new guys have been 3-stars on 247, ESPN, or Scout.

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    OT- Basketball recruiting/ fireAlford.com

    Does anyone here follow basketball recruiting? If so, which sites do you like best? Thanks!

    Also, i cant help but laugh at the UCLA fan site firealford. com. I remember feeling that much opposed to the direction of a program being led by a coach you don’t like.

    I was wondering if we are turning any heads in recruiting on the court? Beyond the “big 3” we have arriving next seaon, are we in on any other prospects?

    Teams like UCLA stockpile 4 & 5 star kids, maybe we can begin to flip those players? I’d like even one or two of those caliber talents with our current coaching.

    Also, can anyone explain exactly what the hell Craig Robinson and his staff were actually doing? Even with the best players from last year gone, WT has done more with 6.75 players (Robbins=.5 walkons =. 25) than Robinson’s best and deepest teams.

    It’s both pathetic and vomit inducing, but encouraging imagining this system with 10 healthy hand picked D1 talents on the roster.

    Go Braves!

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      Those unrealistic pricks in Westwood never liked the Alford hire to begin with. The only thing they’d be happy with is the 2nd coming of John Wooden and that isn’t happening. If you recall, Alford left Iowa for New Mexico because he couldn’t handle the unrealistic expectations. At fucking Iowa! He might be able to recruit and stockpile 4 and 5 star talent at UCLA but he sure as shit cannot coach it. Also as a sidenote, who did Alford replace at UNM? The just fired Ritchie McKay. From his “dream job”

      • Jack says:
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        Alford left Iowa because they dedicated all their resources to football. He said as much in about as blazing a bridge there can ever be.

        • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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          He left so he wouldn’t get fired. His star player at the end of his run, Pierre Pierce, got charged with rape TWICE. Never won an NCAA tourney game and lost to Drake and UNI his last year. Major behavioral problems with his players, that since they were not winning big, could not be ignored even in Iowa City.

    • helmsley says:
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      Tinkle is doing rather well with players who weren’t hand-picked by him. I think it is a disservice to the present players to infer that they have no talent – clearly, they have some. I’ll be interested to see how WT meshes next year’s recruits with the players from the present team.

      • Bill says:
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        Same issue that CR faced after his first year. How to fit better talent into an overachieving team. Hopefully Tinkle due to his longer background as a coach can make that transition better. Do they keep the defensive focus? Higher rated recruits tend to want to score. That eventually brought CR down, bringing in too many guys who wanted to shoot and not play defense.

        • Jack says:
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          Not even close.

          Except for Claitt, Shon and Omari there was zero talent on that team. You can go ahead and write them up as a bunch of walk-ons beyond those three. And don’t try to pretend Roe was D1 material. Olaf always was and is better. And that SG we had who I conveniently forget… he sucked and was a poison.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            Shon? You mean Seth? Tarver? Shon Tarver played at UCLA. Either I’ve killed too many brain cells with napkins or suffer from CRS. I don’t remember a Shon that played for the Beavs under CR

          • Jack says:
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            You’re right. I’ve just tried too hard to forget that team. That was some really painful hoops.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            as for the poison DG I think you are referring to Calvin Haynes

          • Jack says:
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            Yeah… Haynes. He was terrible. Now I have to purposefully block his name from my mind again.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            I always referred to him as Calvin “I never met a shot I didn’t like” Haynes. Agreed that he was a terrible. And a selfish player

    • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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      You should click the little ellipsis thing on those tweets, click “embed HTML,” and copy the HTML to post in here. That way I can be lazy and not open a new tab… So much work.

      Oregon State commit Zach Katoa told @AndrewNemec he'll attempt to swing his cousin and current Utah commit @ThorKatoa11 to join the Beavers.— Trevor Phibbs (@trevorphibbs) January 26, 2015

      • Jack says:
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        Is this blog HTML?

        So many of the things everyone else enjoys here are not available to me for whatever reason. And this isn’t just a lag/tech/language thing. Some of the functions enabled have taken months to appear for me.

        It is the most odd thing I’ve ever seen on these interwebs. I like to think I’m special… but not in that way.

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          Yes, HTML works in the comments. It could be that avatar you have linked messing up your comment box. Or a browser setting.

          • Jack says:
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            It was occurring long before Jeff Perry forced me to get a gravatar due to his vile existence.

          • angry angry says:
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            I loved watching you and Perry battle. Classic AB moments.

          • Jack says:
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            It would have been decent if he pretended to be himself.

          • Jack says:
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            Who am I kidding?

            The only thing decent about his posts was that he was pretending to be something much greater than what he is or ever will be.

      • Jack says:
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        Ed White 2018 LB Eriq Gilyard has been offered by #OregonState. #Beavers #BeaverNation @godfirst_eriq— David Hickox (@904Preps_David) January 26, 2015

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        Having a player named Thor is worth at least a touchdown.

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    Yea.. this team’s top 6 is still probably the most talent he has had… Hence the results.

    The Martin Breuning kid (who couldn’t get on the floor at UW) was probably Tinkles highest rated dude at Montana. For some perspective Tinkles best team at Montana lost to Syracuse in the first round of the 2013 tourny by nearly 50 points.. I mean even the CR led Beavs could have kept it within 30;

    http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=330800183

    • Jack says:
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      Breuning is a decent player. He’s not more than back-up material. But he’s good as a team player who can pass and make intermediate shots.

      But agreed… the level of PSA Tinkle inherited is waaaayyyyyyy higher than what he had at Montana. He just had to love them, and they would love him in return.

      It’s just one big love-fest.

      Fuckin’ hippies!

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      Will Cherry was way better than Breuning.

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        Cherry was very good.

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        Well.. yeah.

        I think they played together for what… one year?

        And Breuning is a swing/P. Cherry is a G.

        Are you saying Cherry is a better PF or swing than Breuning?

        • Jack says:
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          That’s like saying Mike Hass was better than Andy Levitre.

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          No, repying to :Martin Breuning kid was probably Tinkles highest rated dude at Montana.

          Pointing out that Will Cherry was a higher rated dude.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      that was a bad matchup for Montana. Syracuse and Jim Boeheim are very well known for their rugged 2-3 zone D.

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    Hahahahahaa… Gotta love em! I know its silly to look ahead given how fun this team is to watch but…………

    Next years team should be a force if they can stay healthy: Wayne is going to have a tough decision on his hands in terms of who to start..

    Option 1: Best lineup IMO

    Bruce – PG
    GP – SG
    Tres – SF
    Olaf – PF
    Gomis – C

    Option 2: Youth Movement

    PG: Bruce
    G: Payton
    G: Thompson
    F: Tinkle
    C: Gomis

    Option 3: (Loyalty)

    PG: Duvivier
    SG: Payton
    SF: Walker
    PF: Olaf
    C: Gomis

    Tinkle seems like the type to roll with option 3 and make the younger guys prove their worth

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      I expect him to work the young guys in slowly, and if one takes off he goes with the hot hand. That’s what smart coaches do. Unless the young guys are clearly superior.

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      Gomis has been improving quite a bit. Anyone else notice that? He’s finished more and has some moves. Rebounding has been good, but he needs to work on securing the ball better. Duvivier has done pretty well at 3s lately, but he continues blow layups once he drives…it’s a shame because he’s good at driving, just can’t finish. Out of all this year’s starters I think he’s most at risk to lose his job.

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        He finished the and 1 against Arizona and barely missed some tough ones vs UCLA. When it matters he does his thing.

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        I’ve noticed the same about Duvivier… and the same about LMW driving and giving up charges… even though I disagree with 90% of those calls… and would be proven correct if there was review available for those plays… as there is with my DVR thingy.

        It was a common occurrence for Cunningham as well. Maybe it was just a matter of stupid refs giving respect only after they had seen a kid play more than four times. Then again, maybe it’s a matter of kids learning to play despite stupid refs.

        Chicken/egg?

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          What I will say that is noticeable… our boys do not take time after each call to care about wh the foul was called on. There was one time against UW where GP2 got called for a foul when nobody was within ten feet of him. And there’s Jarmal and Daniel. Other than that, we do not whine and complain about calls beyond the initial disappointment… if that’s even a factor. These are big time deposits in the bank of “that ref is calling it that way.”

          When I watched OSU football the last couple years, I saw players whining about calls and getting on each other for the same. I did not see coaches giving a shit other than the obligatory rolling of eyes. I feel that might be a problem. Stats may prove me wrong.

          The worst one was a couple years ago against ASU (I think) when Romaine ran to the pile and was jacked from behind into it… garnering a PF penalty… absolutely undeserved.

          Then he came to the sidelines and got browbeat by Remmers. That was just a shit move by Remmers. I don’t care if your K launched into a pile late and really deserved a penalty. I would think you would be high-fiving that K. But Remmers decided he would be a shitty teammate (loosely termed) and beat on a K.

          Fat fuck!

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            Remmers just got flagged for another false start

          • Jack says:
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            I think you sent that message a little too quickly.

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            or was it holding? I forget. I only remember I couldn’t stand him as a player and referred to him as a walking penalty waiting to happen

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      Malcolm is going to make it so hard to sit him, and I can’t see Langston coming the bench either…then again I can, since Quinn Cook at Duke was able to relinquish his spot to Tyus Jones.

      I think Tinkle builds up to option 1 somewhat, and thank goodness we have a lot of (good but not outstanding) players going so it frees things up. That way, not too many guys transfer because there’s no playing time; take your freshman year you’d be on the bench anyway and contribute and do great things. But overall I think Olaf being a true stretch 4 makes our lineup so deadly.

      I really wonder who WON’T get playing time with any of those options. With option 1, there’s Duvivier, LMW, Eubanks, Thompson, Robbins, Reid, Gligs, and N’Diaye on the bench. Like who comes in with the second unit? Would the team have two good platoons? Three of those guys don’t play, and the list of guys who “don’t play” would be only Eubanks, Reid, N’Diaye, Gligs (so our bigs). So it’s essentially a game of who you want to play.

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      i think bruce has best chance to start, no true pg on our team

    • Jack says:
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      There are 200 minutes to spend. A great team doesn’t care how they’re spent.

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      do keep a couple things in mind……………

      1. When the big three were here they engaged in some games against current players and won their fair share of them

      2. The current group has another off season ahead of them. They can and will get better.

      WT will go with his best options. It will be nice to have a deeper bench though and I’m sure the coaches feel the same

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    Too bad this didn’t happen prior to the UW game

    http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2015/1/26/7918653/washington-huskies-basketball-robert-upshaw-dismissed

    • Issaquahbeav says:
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      That dude was kiling the Beavs defensively in their game. He must have really f’d up to get booted. Had to be more than a little weed or academics.

    • Bill says:
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      Makes the UW game at home even more winnable. UW is one of the teams on the bubble. OSU has a chance to replace them. 3rd place in the PAC12 is likely an auto bid.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        That would be Stanford.

        1. Arizona
        2. Utah
        3. Stanford
        4-12 – Everyone else

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      He’s now 2 for 2 and still at 100%. If only Upshaw dedicated himself at the free throw line the way he does getting booted from school

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      Must have told the coach to go fuck himself…striving to be an AngryBeav

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    The Beavs recruiting Twitter keeps retweeting insider website links, and they’re useless to me. You guys should also tweet the actual info. Thanks.

  • whatever says:
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    The scout.com free preview indicates we’re in the lead for Noah Togiai.

    “Oregon State blew me away,” said Togiai. “I was expecting a good visit, but me and my mom were both totally blown away. They treated my mom like a queen and I had an amazing time. I got to spend time with both the Oregon State basketball staff and…”

    http://recruiting.scout.com/story/1506358-there-s-a-new-school-on-top-for-togiai

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      CHEESY WEASEL ALERT! CHEESY WEASEL ALERT! BEEP BEEP BEEP!

      πŸ˜‰

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    I hope he’s not an English major.

    • Jack says:
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      Is the proper term for a female English major an English majorette?

      A Lady English major?

      Help me here, people!

      • Jack says:
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        I can see this one being a running joke into perpetuity… or for a long time.

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    https://twitter.com/UW_MBB/status/559858818180329472

    Upshaw at UDub suspended for the rest of the season?! We really do have a good shot at beating them at Gill in a week and a half.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      look up a few posts. He hasn’t been suspended. He’s been booted off the team

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    Anyone have info on Ricky Liuchan? I can’t recall the story, but he is listed as signed on ESPN.

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    The entire team said there is a night and day difference between Coach Andersen and Coach Riley. The crazy thing is they all really like Coach Riley, but they just said Coach Andersen is much better.

    lol

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Has anybody gone to the PAC 12 Tourney in LV?

    • Jack says:
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      Well… duh!

      We can’t go to something that has yet to occur.

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      I have gone both years and will be going back this year. Its a Blast and now I’m excited that OSU has a chance to win a game in the tourney!

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      I’d love to go, but if you’re planning to go to vegas, wait an extra week and go during the 1st rounds of the NCAA’s. It’s the best time to go there.

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    http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/cws-champion-vanderbilt-1-2015-college-preseason-top-25/

    Little over two weeks until opening day. Beavers start out unranked. Of course the *ucks are overrated again.

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      Always nice to get that little bump from pummeling the overrated

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    sounds like Elu Aydon has committed

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    Tavita Faaiu is no longer listed as an OSU commit on his Rivals profile… Any idea what happened?

    He was the first commit under GA. That honor now falls to Seth Collins.

    https://sports.yahoo.com/oregonstate/football/recruiting/player-Tavita-Faaiu-158033

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      He’s still listed on ESPN. I won’t check scout because it’s trash.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    ELu Aydon flip from Wisconsin DT here is his Scouting report

    Size-Strength-Speed
    Big man with excellent size for play in the defensive trenches. A thickly built wide-body with very good height and playing strength. Flashes adequate first-step quickness.

    Versus the Run
    This can be a stout interior presence against the run. When he comes off the ball with good pad level he can be extremely tough to move off the ball with one blocker and flashes the ability fight and at times split double teams. Pad level though is an area that needs be improved as he can quickly pop up and play tall and when doesn’t win the leverage battle he can give ground. Shows flashes, but needs to improve hand usage as he is too infrequent in shooting them and can get tied up with blockers. Does display good lateral mobility for size to be active between the tackles.

    Pass Rush Skills
    Big, strong player capable of pushing a blocker back and pressing the pocket when he keeps his pads down. Needs to be more active with his weapons in helping him to try and clear from blockers.

    Toughness/Motor
    Can be a physical player that will take an opportunity to deliver a pop. Looks to give good effort to stay with plays and work to get around the ball and with improved technique can continue to get stronger in each area.

    Bottom Line
    Aydon is a big body with the tools to be a tough, physical and productive presence in the trenches. Big and strong enough to contribute early, a need to further improve technique as well as adjust to greater competition could make a red-shirt not only greatly beneficial but also needed. With more consistent technique can develop into a productive contributor to a D-Line even if just as a run defender.

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      He’s the only player I would be sad to lose.

      Although, I kinda like this Davis kid.

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      Good deal. Screw you Wisconsin!

      • Jack says:
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        Hey, have you reminded any Wiscy fans that they used to have a hockey team?

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    ASU PG Kodi Justice out for the season

    http://www.statepress.com/2015/01/26/report-asu-basketballs-kodi-justice-out-for-season/

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      Must win game for the Beavers. Gonna be very close but I think the Beavs win that one. ASU is gonna struggle all game to score, much like the last time the Beavers played them

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        Agree that it is a must win. And it is very winnable. But I can see this one going either way. Friday night is a loss. UA will be out for blood to avenge their only conference loss so far.

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          Can you imagine if Beavs pulled off the upset? EPIC

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            We won’t beat them there.

            Tucson has an airport… or something like that.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            yes it would. However, I’ve seen this before. Tough to win at McKale when you are consistently playing 5 against 8

          • cj cj says:
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            I’ve seen that show….

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        the good news is ASU still turns the ball over a shit ton. 14.4 turnovers per game. Easily worst in the conference.

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      That sucks. He’s n unlikely bright spot for a shit coach.

      Oh… did I mention that Sendek is a shit coach?

      Anyway… Justice is a good player. I hope he heals well… and transfers to a team with a not-ass-hat for a coach.

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        I don’t think Sendek is a bad coach. I mean, he’s ok. I see ASU try to adapt to what they have for talent. Last year they had way better talent with Jahii Carson and Jordan Bachynski. They did win 21 games and make the NCAA tourney. This year they have less scoring options and much like the Beavs try to milk the shot clock and keep scores low and play defense. Problem is they turn the ball over way too much. I don’t think he’s a great coach but he’s certainly better than several others in the Pac-12. Romar and Kent are awful. Two peas in a pod. Both can recruit, but neither can coach or X and O worth two shits. I can’t believe Romar hasn’t been fired in the last few years.

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          Kent is good except for that James Taylor song. What was it? Guatemala? Suriname?

          Oh! Mexico.

          It sounds so simple.

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            Kent is not good. At all. Relies too much on offense. Like I said, great recruiter, but terrible in game X’s and O’s guy. The two Luke’s days in Eugene were his best and are way behind him. That team could run and shoot lights out. But they couldn’t play defense. That will only get you so far

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            Agreed on D, but Kent does have an eye for talent and an ability to recruit it.

            Don’t kid yourself about Sendek. He was lucky enough to be able to get a Prop 48 player who lived a couple miles away in Carson. Other than that, he’s run more kids off his team than he’s actually brought in, or so it seems. We’ll wait until after this season and their annual exodus before we can scratch our heads and wonder how that dude who is worse than Craig Robinson at everything still has a major conference job.

          • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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            That style will only get you as far as the elite 8, twice.

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            where they lost to teams that play defense (Kansas and Florida)

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    Sorry for the off topic comment, but did anyone see Brandon Browner’s (OSU Alum) comments about intentionally trying to hurt Seattle players?

    smh…

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      if it wasn’t for Richard Sherman, I wouldn’t hate the seahawks. Hard to believe that douche has a communications degree from Stanford.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        well that and the seahawks being shoved down my throat as the local team. When they aren’t even in the same state

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          They aren’t being “shoved down your throat”

          They are the most popular team in most regions of Oregon so they are shown on local TV. Get over it.

          What do you expect networks to do? Show the teams less people want to see?

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            says every shehawks fan.

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            You are right, they are showing the Seahawks because the games don’t get better ratings.

            I can remember when I was a kid and Portland’s local station would actually let fans pick the game (they provided a phone number and you called and voted)….Guess who was on every single Sunday?

            Hint: The team was based in Seattle.

            And this was the early 90’s when the Seahawks sucked….But keep telling yourself the Seahawks are being forced on Oregon. Its a good story.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            Seattle is not local. It just happens to be the “closest” team so people adopt them as local. Every regular season NFL weekend in Oregon it’s seahawks, then one of these three, 49ers, raiders or chargers. I want to watch the good games. Newsflash, the raiders and 49ers both sucked this year. I’d rather watch a game that doesn’t involve my favorite team beating up on an inferior opponent to two good teams playing each other in a close game. As for a local team? Hint: We don’t have one. So now that Seattle doesn’t have an NBA team you think they’ve adopted the Blazers now as the “local team”?

      • Jack says:
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        Sorry… what does that have to do with the question?

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      Let him try?

      Bring it little boy?

      Uh huh?

    • Certified Public Asskicker Certified Public Asskicker says:
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      I dont think it is out of line, I heard it quite a bit from the sports talk radio guys complaining that Green Bay didnt take advantage of what looked like and injured Sherman.

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    http://pac-12.com/article/2015/01/26/roundup-oregon-state-basketball-dominates-weekend

    OSU bb en vogue? lol

    fwiw, I didn’t used to like wbb because the players never left their feet – clearly, that’s changed.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    another thought. It would be pretty kick ass if this beaver team could find a way to finish 4th in the conference and AVOID an opening round game in the conference tourney. Having to play 4 games in 4 days is more brutal for a team with a short bench than 3 games in 3 days. I know, I’m thinking too far ahead

    • Jack says:
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      Although, finishing fifth and getting one win before the quarters might make a record look just a little better.

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        What am I saying?

        If we get a bye, we’ve already won that extra league game.

        I think we just jinxed us.

        • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          I think WT and staff will keep this team pretty grounded no matter what we think or say here at angrybeavs. So no worries. This season has already exceeded almost everyone’s expectations. The ride isn’t over yet

          • Jack says:
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            The funniest part is reading and listening to the “experts” about our D. It’s a 2-3. No, it’s a 3-2. Against USC the announcer was amazed out how we went from a 2-3 to a 3-2 in the middle of a possession as if we called it out in certain conditions and depending on where the ball is.

            It’s called the Ameoba people. Tinks ran it at Montana too. The problem against USC was that they went small. It took us halfway through the second half to go man up on them and start taking the ball away.

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            Isn’t it just a trapping Matchup zone?

          • Jack says:
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            It’s a modified Amoeba. Once in a while we see the traditional 1-1-3 set. But that’s a rare one, unless you have a couple stellar athletes at the wings.

            You can see here how the “experts” get all confused while watching it.
            http://www.hoopsu.com/amoeba-defense/

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            or a protozoan?

    • cj cj says:
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      ..you’re thinking too far ahead…

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    Any word on the DT named Olive? Would love to see a couple more poaches from the a-hole Badgers.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Andersen’s first commit has de-committed. Juco DE Tavita Faaiu

    • whatever says:
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      I wonder if he had a conditional offer, accepted it on the spot and now the conditions can no longer be met?

      • Jack says:
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        I wonder if it’s grades.

        • whatever says:
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          Plausible, but grades for CCSF should have come out 3 weeks ago.

        • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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          Good one. First Wisconsin, now OSU. He will only be happy at Utah State LOL.

          • Jack says:
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            No… grades is just sometimes grades.

            Is he looking at 1AA teams or D2 ball? That would tell us something. I believe he’s a two-for-two kid. So why has it taken three years to do what most Juco kids do in two?

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    Obum got an invite to the NFL Combine. Wonder if he sets the high jump record? (do they test the high jump?)

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      If they have a dropped pass drill, he is a stone cold lock to set the record.

    • Dansen says:
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      They test vertical jump; no high jump though. An interesting nugget: a guy claiming to be Obum’s high school coach said that his best position (in high school at least) was QB…Not sure I could even conceptualize that.

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    GA and Staff Recruiting stats
    15 official visits, 47% commit rate

    the xls file is downloadable at:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/4hc13528owoofli/2015%20FB%20Recruitment%20Tracker.xlsx?dl=0

    ,,Coach Andersen & Staff Recruiting Stats,,,,,,,,,
    Year,OFFER,Player,Home,,ESPN Rating,RVALS Rating,SCOUT Rating,OFFICIAL VISIT,COMMIT DATE,Steal/loss,
    2015,Y,Paul Lucas,”Phoenix, AZ”,WR,,***,,11/28/2014,,ASU Commit,Solid commit to ASU on 1/16/15
    2015,Y,Lavan Alston,”Ventura, CA”,WR,***,,,11/28/2014,,,
    2015,Y,Jalen Moore,”Upland, CA”,DB,***,,,1/16/2015,1/17/2015,,
    2015,Y,Taylor Thomas,”Jacksonville, FL”,RB,***,***,,1/16/2015,1/19/2015,,
    2015,Y,Jay Irvine,”Jacksonville, FL”,ATH,***,***,,1/16/2015,1/19/2015,,
    2015,Y,Treston Decoud,”Hammond, LA”,S,NR,,,1/16/2015,,,cancelled trip to Baylor recently
    2015,Y,Tuli Wily-Matagi,”Kahuku, HI”,ATH,,***,,1/23/2015,1/7/2015,,
    2015,Y,Keivonnis Davis,”Miami, FL”,DE,***,**,,1/23/2015,1/21/2015,,
    2015,Y,Khalid McGee,”Miami, FL”,S,***,,,1/23/2015,,,Committed to S. Florida last August
    2015,Y,Simitali Moala,”Los Angeles, CA”,DE,***,,,1/23/2015,,,Visiting Miami on 1/30
    2015,Y,James Empey,”American Fork, UT”,OG,***,,,1/23/2015,,Lost to UTAH,
    2015,Y,Noah Togiai,”West Valley, UT”,DE,NR,,,1/23/2015,,,Mom came on the visit;current UTAH commit; BEAVS now on top of his list
    2015,Y,Elu Aydon,American Somoa,DT,***,**,,1/23/2015,1/26/2015,Steal from WISC,”WISC commit, Electric Eye said he was on campus 1/25; package deal with Logan Tago”
    2015,Y,Logan Tago,Pago Pago,OLB,NR,**,,1/23/2015,,WSU Commit,”WSU commit, Electric Eye said he was on campus 1/25; package deal with Elu Aydon?”
    2015,Y,Zach Lopini Katoa,”American Fork, UT”,RB,***,**,***,1/23/2015,1/25/2015,Steal from UTAH,
    2015,Y,Christian Folau,”SLC, UT”,ILB,,***,,1/30/2015,,,Utah & OSU
    2015,Y,Markell Simmons,PIMA CC,S,,**,,1/30/2015,,,”WISC, Ok state, Utah & OSU”
    2015,Y,Seth Collins,”El Cajon, CA”,QB-DT,***,**,,JC,SIGNED,,
    2015,Y,Xavier Crawford,”Concord, CA”,CB,***,,,JC,SIGNED,,
    2015,Y,Ricky Liuchan,”San Marcos, CA”,OLB,***,,,JC,SIGNED,,
    2015,Y,Zach Standish,”Gresham, OR”,K,NR,,,JC,SIGNED,,
    2015,Y,Tavita Faaiu,”San Francisco, CA”,DE,,**,,JC,DECOMMIT,,”Committed 12/18/14, decommit circumstances unknown”
    2015,Y,Brayden Kearsley,”Aloha, OR”,,,,,TRANSFER,TRANSFER,,
    2015,Y,Chris Barr,”Jacksonville, FL”,,***,,,,, S.FLORIDA Commit,”1/26-Decommits from Utah; visited Rutgers on 1/23, S.Florida on 1/16, WISC on 11/14″
    2015,Y,Sheldrick Redwine,”Miami, FL”,CB,,,,,,Louisville Commit,Telly Lockette target
    2015,Y,Thor Katoa,”St. George, UT”,ILB,,**,,,,14 UTAH commit,Mission recruit
    2015,Y,Mufi Hunt,”Murray, UT”,DE,,***,,,,,visting michigan; mid week visit to OSU expected
    2016,Y,David Moore,”Alpharetta, GA”,QB-DT,***,,,,,,

    • Jack says:
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      I need a table format dammit!

      I’ll see what I can do.

      • Gobeavs82 says:
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        i use a spreadsheet – not sure how to convert the data so it’s readable

    • Jack says:
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      What we really need is for Verbal Commits to make a football side.

    • Jack says:
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      Let’s see if it transfers as a straight text…

      Player Home ESPN RIVALS VISIT COMMIT Steal/Loss

      Seth Collins El Cajon,CA *** ** SIGNED S

      tabs all look wrong… lets see.

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    Player
    Home
    ESPN
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    Visit
    Commit

    Player
    Home
    ESPN
    Rivals
    Visit
    Commit

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      tables don’t format either… but bold does… cool.

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        File available on dropbox:

        https://www.dropbox.com/s/4hc13528owoofli/2015%20FB%20Recruitment%20Tracker.xlsx?dl=0

        • CraigBeav says:
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          Import it into google drive, make the spreadsheet public, and post the link?

        • Jack says:
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          Nice link. Probably best to keep it external and just link it like this. In fact, can it be linked via the Twitter page? That would be one-stop shopping right there.

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            Notes:
            Thomas and Wiley-Matagi were poaches from Utah. Davis is a poach from Syracuse. Tagiai is a Utah hoops commit. Empey was never ours to lose. Collins is an early HS Grad. Crawford, Liuchan and Standish are all 2014 and grey shirts. And Hunt visited MSU, not Mich.

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            And if we reel in Folau, you’ll want to add Ula Tolutau, 2014 Wiscy commit on a mission, to that list.

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    Baseball starts in a little over two weeks. Roster is out now. Not much changes. A couple freshman didn’t make it back, Dan James, Mason Fishback and Chandler Eden. None had much PT last year. Eden was the only one that was expected to make an impact this year. Other guys not making it back, Painton, Belding, and Esposito. Englebreckt is out with injury this year.

    It’s a very young team and will need the sophomores to really lead this team. Based on Casey’s comments and last year’s stats, here’s what I think the lineup might be.

    C – Ice
    1B – Clark
    2B – Donahue
    3B – Hamiliton
    SS – Morrison
    OF – Hendrix
    OF – Cary
    OF – Gillette
    DH – Harrison

    Fri – Moore
    Sat – Thompson
    Sun – Heimlich (due to him being a lefty)
    Weekday – Tweedt

    Bullpen – Everyone else.

    • Jack says:
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      Howard is likely in the OF. Apparently he has healed ahead of schedule. And I would think Mak is in the running for being in the rotation.

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    For how close we are to signing day, and how many spots the Beavs have left to fill, it sure is quiet out there. It just doesn’t feel like they’re going to sign anywhere near 20-25 players this year, unless they go with several “plan b” types. It seems like the staff is putting more time/effort towards next year and beyond.

    Here are the current 14 verbals according to Rivals(but Jiminez shouldn’t be on this list so make that 13)

    Elu Aydon
    Blake Brandel
    Keivonnis Davis
    Miki Fifita
    Omar Hicks-Onu
    Jay Irvine
    Jacob Jimenez
    Zachary Lopini Katoa
    Zach Lucas
    Jalen Rakim Moore
    Nick Porebski
    Taylor Thomas
    Shawn Wilson
    Tuli Wily-Matagi

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      If recruiting is the life-blood of a program, and recruits who are better or more sought wait until signing day to commit and sign, this might be our reality from here on out. With the shortened period for recruiting due to the timing of it all, the numbers will be down a little. But expect to be sitting at about 20 with most of the kids being the workaday types. And expect to have irons in several fires for the highly rated/targeted PSAs… winning some and losing most.

  • bleedorange says:
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    If we take less recruits this year does it allow us to take more next year? Or is it limited?

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      as far as I know, you’re limited to 85 total scholarships at any given time, and a max of 25 per year. Not sure if there is a yearly minimum, but would be foolish to sign less than 10 in a single year because you wouldn’t be able to catch up to 85 again for several years.

    • Jack says:
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      The rules have changed slightly. We can only take 25 in any calendar year. Winter term counts as the year previous, so Liuchan and Crawford would be 2014… as would Collins… I think. But if we were already at 25 for 2014, they would count against 2015. That rule is for the Juco signing period in December mostly, but it also applies to early HS graduates and grey shirts.

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    I’m not going to read this article since I’m at work, but have seen several references today to the story. Sounds like some chick filmed herself doing something you don’t normally see in a library, in the Valley Library on campus.

    **Potentially NSFW**
    https://twitter.com/totalfratmove/status/560199686636965888

    • Jack says:
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      Probably more common than we want to know… by both genders.

      Dick move recording and posting it. But you have to expect that these days.

      • Jack says:
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        Actually… I wonder if the perv who solicited and recorded that asked her if she was of legal age. That kind of perv doesn’t care until he does.

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