27.Nov.2009 Brandon Wimberly & Boise State

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Wimberly is having a huge night (and good freshman season) for the Wolfpack.

Some may remember that Wimberly was originally an OSU recruit, but when Riley decided to greyshirt him he parted ways with the Beavers. From Wimberly’s standpoint, the decision made sense. He wanted to get out of LA and the gang-invested neighborhood he grew up in. From Riley’s “family first” perspective, the decision is questionable. In retrospect, OSU probably should have made room for the guy.

As far as the Boise State Interlopers, they’re doing their usual thing–an unimpressive lead vs a largely inferior opponent. Kellen Moore would be Kevin Riley in the Pac-10. Oh well, college football is on a downward spiral and it’s mainly because of the lack of focus on the good teams and good stories that occur in the middle. Nobody outside of Texas wants to hear about Texas, nobody outside of Alabama cares about Alabama, and everyone knows Boise State are interlopers in Bronco clothing, yet even in lieu of tonight’s malaise the telecasters are trying to convince me this is a top 10 team because of their undefeated record. There are good stories in college football that aren’t being told. I’d rather learn about teams in the middle who are fighting battles versus good schedules; teams that have a struggle recruiting yet still win, etc. For example, I find Georgia Tech and Cincinnati infinitely more interesting than Florida, Alabama, or Boise State. And Oregon State is more interesting than Oregon, USC, Stanford, or Cal, yet all of those teams get more exposure. If college football focused on good stories, or at least covered them occasionally, it would be a much fresher ticket. Instead, it’s more Florida, Alabama, Texas, and Boise State, and we fans are left eating day old bread.

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  • JackBeav says:
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    I hesitate to discount Boise State so easily because I believe their lone loss in the last three years was the best bowl game last year–the Sun Bowl was, of course, second. Just like baseball, football is best when I’m sitting on the edge of my seat hoping the defense locks them down.

    I find BSU’s record even more amazing when I think that their schedule has been more boring than a Florida spank-down of the College of we’re paid to be D-1 football. They should have lost at least once due to nap time being instituted during this stretch.

    Maybe they don’t have the ‘historical’ sense of traditiion when facing an opponent. Maybe if Boise State would have the guts to play a storied program like Oklahoma they could garner some respect.

    If only Utah could win a BCS bowl game… they would be considered giants.

    Hey! That reminds me. Ron McBride may be older, but I’m sure he can still win on the D-1 level.

    • angrybeaver says:
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      Jack, maybe the trenchant wit of your post went right over my head, but didn’t Boise State play Oklahoma and didn’t Utah win a BCS bowl?

      The bottom line is this: if any of those schools wants my respect they need to play 3 tough (OOC, most likely) games and they need to do it in back to back to back weeks like real conferences do.

      Loved seeing Boise State get snubbed from the BCS last year, and I think it happens again. When you’re playing UC Riverside in the heart of your season you don’t even belong in the discussion.

      As far as the Beavers vs Boise State next year…I don’t know what will happen because we always have trouble there and we always seem to be breaking in a new QB while they’ve got theirs entrenched, but I do know if the Beavers were in that conference they’d be undefeated yearly, and if Boise State were in the pac-10, they’d be in the Vegas bowl yearly.

  • SadBeaver says:
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    I am looking forward to playing Boise State next year early. I hope we can finally be ready to go at the start of a season and really garner some attention early. But if it doesn’t go well we can look to our duck brethren and still salvage the season. College football will always be a game of what ifs until we can come up with a fair playoff system, with what I think has to be 16 teams. From what I can tell the FCS seems to do a pretty good job with this.

  • JackBeav says:
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    I agree. When you feast on 1-AA and like schools then you deserve less consideration than a real team. When you select the dregs of these programs, you deserve less. Didn’t the lower tier teams of major conferences usually schedule weak teams to bolster their own egos… or put more W’s on the schedule? Didn’t the ‘great’ teams schedule the best of the mid-majors to put them in their place?

    Now we have a #1 Florida Gator squad who have not played diddly-squat all year. And when they play down to their opposition, the refs lift them up. I’m not saying that Florida sucks. I’m saying that we can’t know how good they are because they’ve played no one. UGA? LSU? Vandy? MSU? uSC? Stop me when I mention a good team. Arkansas? Tennessee? Kentucky for God’s sake!

    That’s their conference schedule!?!? Besides a decent LSU defense, and a couple good coaching schemes here and there, that’s got to be a joke. That decent LSU defense would get run over by the top two thirds of the Pac 10. Well, their non-conference schedule must be pretty tough for Florida to get any consideration in the polls… right?

    I don’t blame Boise State for their non-conference schedule because they’ve put out the ‘anytime… anywhere’ notice, and only the Oregon schools have answered that call. Most likely, it’s to our detriment. But at least we pick up the phone. Boise State has made that call to the SEC and Big 12, and NOBODY has the huevos to say yes.

    Yes, the WAC would just be the Conf-USA without BSU, but that will likely change if BSU can start getting people to play them.

    • angrybeaver says:
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      Has Boise State *really* made that call, though? I hear that rumor a lot, but I’ve never seen a confirmed source say (or print) that Boise State has taken on the “anytime, anyplace” motto of Fresno State. Also, just because nobody has answered this supposed call doesn’t mean that they’re afraid of Boise State. There’s probably just more $ to gain in beating down other average teams.

      I’d love to see Larry Scott negotiate an SEC and PAC-10 conference tie-in with a bowl game. It’s the only way the SEC will leave their backyard and play a DI school, and it’s the only way people will realize the PAC-10 is a better conference. That the runner up in the SEC gets an automatic BCS birth is a joke that will only stop being funny when other conferences are allowed to humiliate them.

      • Anonymous says:
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        Boise St. is in talks with Nebraska for a Home and Home deal possibly for next year. They want a $1 Million payout…it’s a bit steep, but if they go BCS Bowling and win, you gotta pay ’em.

  • angrybeaver says:
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    Also, was anyone else impressed by Wimberly last night?

  • OS_Beaver says:
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    Beaver Nation (Help Quizz pass Keenum),

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    Quizz has a legit shot to be invited to NY for the Heisman if we beat the ducks. It will help if he pass Case Keenum in the fan vote in the next few days. From ESPN where Quizz is #4:

    4. Jacquizz Rodgers, Oregon State: Tim Tebow and Colt McCoy deserve consideration in these final two spots, but under the given criteria, I simply could not put either ahead of Rodgers or Ndamukong Suh. Much like Spiller, Rodgers is the most outstanding player on a surging Oregon State squad. It likely will take a monster showing in an upset victory over rival Oregon for Rodgers to get the invite to New York City. As of right now, 1,749 total yards of offense (1,313 yards on 239 carries and 436 yards on 67 receptions) and 20 touchdowns (19 rushing, one receiving) earn him a spot in the top five.

    Vote Quizz for Heisman:http://promo.espn.go.com/espn/contests/theheismanvote/2009/

  • OS_Beaver says:
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    Vote Quizz for Heisman:
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  • Beavker says:
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    Boise State is in talks with Nebraska for a Home and Home (at Lincoln) as soon as next year. They want a $1 Million payout, but if they win a BCS Bowl you gotta pay them. It’s a good game for both schools I think.

  • angrybeaver says:
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    Great, Oklahoma State loses = Boise State Interlopers likely gets the BCS birth.

    Travesty.

    • JackBeav says:
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      Why would Okie State even be considered? They played one tough game all year. They also lost a gimme to an interloper wanna-be. Oklahoma is one of two teams in the Big 12 and SEC who played a respectable non-conference schedule–Georgia being the other after today.

      I think with some tougher games Nebraska would have been a much better team than they are. But when you start off with FlaAtlantic and ArkSt you deserve to lose a sloppy game at an overrated VaTech. I think Nebraska had about as much luck as Arizona did this year… or even the Beavs. These are all teams who could have been better if they started off with a tough test in one of their first two games. None of the three did, and they all lost their third game. Arizona happened to be our third, so they got a reprieve.

      I think you play the good teams in order to make yourself better. Some you win. Some you lose. But the work you put into the tough tests makes your conference opener less of a shock.

      I respect OU and UGA for having the courage to schedule these games. They just weren’t good enough to handle them this year. I’d really like us to drop EWU next year for a tougher game, but it is what it is. And, unlike the eastern conferences, it will kill us in terms of national respect. We could go undefeated next year, and Florida, Alabama or Texas will play their high school schedules and still be ranked 1,2,3.

  • brownale says:
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    Oh, you mean 2 star recruit Brandon Wimberly? According to a lot of your posts, we shouldn’t be recruiting 2 star guys because they never pan out.

    • angrybeaver says:
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      Yeah, that’s what I said.

      • brownale says:
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        Actually…yeah, it is what you’ve said, smartass. Bitching about the recruitment of Will Storey…

        “…I do believe in odds, majority, etc when it comes to recruiting. If nobody wanted this player there’s good reason. Can you say Kameron Krebs? Why are we recruiting these guys. We have three top 25 finishes in a row and the best we can do is PSU and WSU caliber players? Earlier in the week we signed Donnell Welch, another zero star athlete with no offers. This one looks like an academic casualty since he had a lot of interest, but it makes you wonder yet again about our recruiting strategy.”

        You bitch about the recruitment of guys who don’t have enough stars for your liking, saying they rarely pan out. Then, if they happen to pan out for somebody else, you say we made a mistake by not getting them here.

        Make up your mind.

        Not holding my breath for that by the way.

        • angrybeaver says:
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          Hey, Ted.

          First of all, when the Beavers offered Wimberly he had zero stars.

          Secondly, they do rarely pan out, but every once and a while one does. The problem is your pea-brain will take that one who pans out and extrapolate it into a recruiting philosophy. Let me guess, if I talk about walk-ons you’ll talk about Mike Hass?

          Third, why do you make multiple accounts and stalk me? Here’s a guess: because you have multiple personality disorder and you’re a stalker. Don’t try to tell me this behavior stops at the internet, Ted. The bottom line is that the 4hrs a day you spend refreshing my blog would be better served at the asylum where your maunder would have some merit.

          • JackBeav says:
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            Why does everyone talk about Hass when discussing walk-ons? At least talk about the most obvious walk-on success in our recent history… Jonathan Smith.

          • Ted says:
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            Wow! When did this bit of angry paranoia start up?

            I guess I must have made some points you’re feeling defensive about now that you’re thinking everyone that rips on you is me. Amusing!

            I can say with all honesty that I’ve not posted a reply to your blog under any “account” other than this one using the simple name of Ted.

            Funny thing is, as you act all self righteous, you and I both know know that you cannot say the same thing in terms of only using one name in the blog replies.

            But, hey, at least you have a few people fooled. Not many, but a few simpletons seem to have bought in.

  • JackBeav says:
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    Watching ASU get stomped by Arizona makes me happy we didn’t actually get four star recruit Danny Sullivan.

  • beavers4life says:
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    I like the @BSU then Louisville @home. I remember the game when we WENT to Louisville and got KILLED! Too bad this won’t be like the Cincy game in retrospect to a revenge game because that game was like 4 or 5 years ago. the only person that definitely remembers that game is Coach Riley. The OSU fans will remember the Louisville game as well, I hope. So for us it will be a good game.

    On another note, I think when OSU wins the CW and then the RB, Beaver fans will be excited for next year and want to go to OSU games and hopefully the stadium will have more sell outs next year since we have, Louisville, ASU, USC, CAL, WSU, and Oregon @ home in 2010! That is an AWESOME schedule! with EWU for the home opener, that really isn’t worth being on the home schedule list at this point. I just want to see sell outs next year! Reser can get loud, but we need the stadium to be full of BEAVER fans to do it! 🙂

    GO BEAVS!! Huck the Ducks! Duck the Fu**s doesn’t quite work.

    • angrybeaver says:
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      I like the EWU game. Katz will need that game to get comfortable.

      • beavers4life says:
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        Cal played EWU this year and won 59-7 and EWU beat Portland State U 47-10. EWU also beat Sacramento State and Idaho State. That tells you that they are much better than Portland State’s team this year. So is this game good for Katz and company? Most likely yes with the experienced O-line that we will have next year.

        Also this is the OOC schedule for next few years: @BSU 2010, BSU home 2012, @Wisconsin 2011, Wisconsin Home 2012, @San Diego State 2013, and San Diego State home 2014.
        I like this future schedule so far. Hope from 2011-2014 we get some good OOC teams…any ideas who could be possibilities?

  • JackBeav says:
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    You all should know by now that I don’t want any part of EWU. Give me guts and glory! Give me a challenge! Hit me in the mouth and tell me to get up!

    Are we playing football. or are we babysitting? Katz is already better than half the Pac 10 QB’s currently out there. Lalich already has a year and two games under his belt. Let’s hit the ground running and not look back.

  • JackBeav says:
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    After watching the ND/Stanford game play out almost exactly as I wished it would… I want ND on our schedule every year. It will make more sense when Brian Kelly is the coach there, and we want or need some kind of revenge. It doesn’t matter. We need for some non-conference games to turn into rivalries which make us appear as if we were more important than we are.

    How about LSU? If it wasn’t for our frosh kicker, the Raiders wouldn’t be as committed to sucking as they are now. Don’t we deserve to prove that we can hit at least one PAT against LSU?

    So we have our three. Let’s make it LSU, ND and Boise State. They are big enough games to be scheduled anytime during the season, and if we win all of them we’re sailing on the stupid hype supercruiser. If we lose all three, we can still make a BCS bowl because we just have to win our conference.

    Anyone have a better suggestion for bringing in some top recruits?

    • beavers4life says:
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      JackBeav,

      The reason why we can’t get LSU nor ND to come to Reser for the following reasons: 9th in the Pac-10 as a stadium venue, “Easy win” unless we play them in OCT, NOV, or DEC., They will see how we did against Cincy, Penn State, and the like, and they won’t come because we can’t even sell out our stadium nor pay the big schools to come.

      On the other hand, we could try to get a one time deal with a “big name school” , but we called around for this year, but Penn State wouldn’t take a re-match even though they know we’re scrounging for money right now. Can’t remember where that quote is, but I know it was said. I think we’re heading in a better direction with BSU, Louisville, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. They have decent teams and they may be really good in the future. who knows. 2-9 years is a long time. We need to ask around or put out a big thing on ESPN saying, “Will any Winning program in the FBS take a home-and-home or just a one-time-deal with us so we can get some good competition, some publicity, and some $ from you?” Look what happened when we played Cincy…we got NOTICED!!! lol both for the wrong reasons, but at least this game wasn’t a blow out. We just need our guys to not be oooohed and awwwwed by stadiums on the road. I think that’s what happened to our defense against SC cause that was most of their first times playing there. I’m just glad none of the OSU players have come out and given a Tim Tebow speech like the one he gave when they lost to Ole Miss.

      GO BEAVS!!! DUCK THE *UCKS!!!!

  • G Joubert says:
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    If Malvao gets another year…

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