19.Sep.2015 San Jose State Post Game Thoughts

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This game was close to the “ah ha” moment you’d expect from a growing offense. Things still aren’t tight, but they’re getting better, and you could see plays clicking better.

Nothing specifically stood out to me. The defense was bend but don’t break with some help from the awful QB play of San Jose, Collins was his usual self running like a deer and passing like…a beaver (?..even the TD was ugly). Woods ran for almost 9ypc, which should quiet those who wanted Chris Brown to start. Woods ran for 6+ ypc last year, so this isn’t a fluke. He’s slow and downhill, but he gets it done mostly. He’s not the most consistent guy, so have Brown ready for when Woods is off. Brown is a good prospect, but he needs to toughen up and work on his vision..goes down too easily, too.

Special teams was once again awful, with a fumbled punt and two missed FGs.

Paul Lucas was a no show again. Ryan Nall a no show. I continue to be disappointed with how that’s being handled.

Overall the game was a step in the right direction. It should get the anti-GA guys off the ledge for a week.

Stanford is a team that could injure and/or intercept Collins. While they aren’t exactly fast, they’re bigger than OSU and usually in the right place on D. I don’t think the Beavs can keep running the offense through Collins as they begin Pac play. 115 yards rushing and 135 yards passing…that isn’t going to happen versus good opponents, as we saw vs Michigan, so the passing game needs to step up. My biggest concern is the passing game. Beavs have playmakers at WR, but the QB is missing them too often (52% tonight, which is about 15% below where an efficient QB needs to be). The yards per completion are abysmal, too (5.4 per attempt).

Overall this game went about as I expected. It was a decent mid level opponent, which is exactly what the Beavs needed.

 

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  • Tlingit Cannon Tlingit Cannon says:
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    Collins needs to manage the game, but he will probably hurdle or something…. hahaha

  • marcodg marcodg says:
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    I was pleased to see the penalty situation improving, with the notable exception of Harlow. It was good to see GA pissed about the DoG prior to the second missed FG.

    Beavs got a little lucky about Potter being injured. I thought he got rid of the ball quickly, negating the pressure. It’s tough to tell what the outcome would have been.

    You can see Collins’ potiential. I have to remember that he is a true freshmen and the entire offensive philosophy is new. There will be a lot rough spots and times where you say, “if he can only be like that more often…” You can tell he learned to throw the ball away after that terrible pick in the first half. I hope he learns as fast on other errors.

    It was good to see Woods run with authority. That screen pass he scored on was a really good play on his part.

    USC pissed on themselves, which is bad news for the conference.

    • marcodg marcodg says:
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      Also, tight ends were non-existent. There was a well executed play to Togiai in the first half which Collins missed on but that was about it. Caleb Smith was not playing for some reason; I had not heard that he was injured… what’s up with that?

      • ObjCritic says:
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        Smith I heard had some illness.

        But Smith is a senior, and instead of disappearing should be dominant in pre-conference play with his size. Unfortunately, I don’t think he’s ever going to be an impact player.

      • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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        Smith was said to be “ill” prior to the game.
        I noticed Collins showboating on the first TD but more classy on the second. TV may not have caught everything but that is what I saw. Maybe some learning there?

        • helmsley says:
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          Imo, all the exaggerated showboating and celebrating is over-reaction to something they are supposed to do anyway. I love the idea of women participating in sports and watch them on occasion – not volleyball, though; because the points are played in such a short span of time, there seems to more hug time than play time.

          • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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            Someone said, ” Women have to be happy to win; Men have to win to be happy”
            One thing for sure, Rueck finds ways to keep ’em happy and working together.

          • Ayy Lmao says:
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            He finds ways alright :^)

        • Seth's Earrings says:
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          Smith was goofing off on the sidelines. Didn’t look ill to me.

          • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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            I suspect we will see him on the sidelines a lot in the next several weeks.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      did he drown his sorrows in a bottle of cutty sark?

      Fuckin Fight On? Right?

      • Jack says:
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        Overheard at houses all over the country:

        Grandma’s visiting from Southern California son. That means it’s time to hide the single malt and bring out the Cutty Sark.

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    If Collins doesn’t learn to protect himself in the open field Stanford will break him in half.

  • Corliss says:
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    Stanford qb hogan left coliseum on crutches! Will he be available vs beavs?

  • Whiskey soaked napkins Whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Lucas had one ball thrown to him and made absolutely zero effort to catch it

    • Jack says:
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      That’s because it was 10 yards behind him and hit the deck before he came out of his break.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        10 yards behind him? Nice depth perception.

        • Jack says:
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          I’m going off memory. I’m probably thinking of a different play from the sound of it. I’ll watch it again sometime this week.

          SC does set up his receivers to get absolutely killed. So I can buy not trying in that instance. Like I said, I’ll watch for it.

    • StarcraftSquall says:
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      Not to mention there was a defender bearing down on him. I wouldn’t have caught that ball either considering he’d have been lit up for maybe a 2 yard gain.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        True. But not even making an effort says exactly what to the new coaching staff?

    • wannabeav says:
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      I thought I saw Nall out there for a few plays

  • ObjCritic says:
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    I don’t understand the lack of reps for Nall, but next week would be a good time for him to get some meaningful and repeated opportunities. Even if on a slow decline, Stanford can still play D, and a big back might be useful followed by some speed like Lucas.

    Should be a loss next weekend. But Andersen said the test of this team will be how it deals with adversity, what it does after it gets hit. A Friday evening game in Corvallis will likely result in a mediocre crowd, so I don’t expect the team to get much help there.

    Collin’s throwing improvement is going to take time. Like most of the season. For the beavs to win, they’ll have to run the ball well (including Collins) despite Stanford knowing that is OSU’s best option.

    The crowd looked sparse tonight. I hope the Beav’s third quarter life helped with the recruits.

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    Roll Tide

    • ObjCritic says:
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      Yeah, seems like no one will go undefeated, which is why I think USC is fine for now. Ohio State? Maybe. Didn’t look impressive on the scoreboard today.

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      Mullaney 3 for 31 yards and a TD.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Hey BeaverGopher, here’s a head turner for you!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/20/sports/ncaafootball/a-head-spinning-mascot-for-minnesota.html?ref=ncaafootball

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    No GA post game presser?

    • scotty says:
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      http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ymWfBODes8U

      • Whiskey soaked napkins Whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        Thanks Scotty. They must’ve just posted it. Guess I looked too soon. I’ll watch after the end of UCLA and BYU. Good game going on

      • angry angry says:
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        A man with a plan.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        “you don’t win division 1 football games when you continually are your own worst enemy”

        Complete opposite of the previous regime. Only 4 penalties today. Much improvement as Angry stated below

        • BeavGirl BeavGirl says:
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          yeah, I believe Riley literally said “we were our own worst enemy.” lolzzz

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            those who do not learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them. Save for the comeback today that still resulted in a loss, Nebraska is making the SAME mistakes that many of us grew tired of and became frustrated with. As has already been stated there is the Riley factor (Pelini factor in Lincoln) still in play. Riley can somewhat win and do better right now than GA can. Over time, that will change as the Riley is flushed down the toilet here but he puts his stamp on the program there. Watch and see.

            For the record, I am 2 for 2 on the epic Nebraska fail. Doesn’t make me clairvoyant. Just means I’ve seen this shit before and don’t believe for one second they will have more success with better players. Especially when the biggest enemy is oneself.

          • wannabeav says:
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            Riles is within one loss of his win-cap potential, if you know what I mean.

          • Go Ducks says:
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            You guys are idiots. The Beavs suck, and that’s all there is too it. Riley was the only person keeping that dumpster fire in OSU at a respectable level.

      • Ionebeaver Ionebeaver says:
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        Paraphrased press conference about defense: “We want to get the best 11 kids out there, sometimes 14 with some special subpackages. They’d planned on playing these subpackages tonight and that did not go well.
        There were kids that could not execute, weren’t prepared and Sitake backed off and went back to the same personnel group and those kids that were ready to play came in and executed. So hopefully we’ll have some young men learn that those opportunities are special and you need to take advantage of them.”

        • angry angry says:
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          I wasn’t sure what he meant by that. Is he saying they put the package in, the players blew their assignments, so he yanked them?

          I mean yeah that is good, but you need more than 11 guys so you have to let them take lumps at some point.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            I wasn’t sure what he meant by that. Is he saying they put the package in, the players blew their assignments, so he yanked them?

            That’s exactly what he meant

          • wannabeav says:
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            I think that is what he meant. They wanted to rotate more guys in but whenever they did performance fell off, so they sat. BTW, I saw Smith on the sideline and he didn’t look sick to me either.

  • CorVegas Comeback says:
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    I expect 44K for Stanford. Should be a good game with OSU having to execute well on both sides of the ball to pull out the victory. Students will be in full force and if they win the after party will be nuts and last until Sunday morning.

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      I like your style.

    • StarcraftSquall says:
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      Friday night game. Affects crowd, especially Portland fans. 44k may be a little much to expect.

      • Andersen Era says:
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        Quality opponent and Pac-12 opener. All students on campus. Beavs had over 40K for SJSU. I think they can find 3.5K more for Stanford in what should be a hard fought football game and opportunity for Oregon State to show its mettle at home.

  • angry angry says:
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    Beavs with only 4 penalties for 35 yards. Much better than the 7 and 8 in the prior games. That stood out as well.

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      The one that stood out to me was the Isaac push in the back. Negated a big play and the play was already dead with the ball out of bounds.

      Delay of game was very Riley-esque

      • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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        The response of the coach was not.

        • wannabeav says:
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          Anderson strolling out on the field reaming the place holder and kicker was my favorite moment of the year and fully emblematic of the new regime’s lack of tolerance for administrative penalties. Since I was at the Beav game, how many admins did Nebraska have yesterday?

          • OSAlum94 OSAlum94 says:
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            If he would have waited until after the second kick to correct them, they might have made that kick. He may have rattled his own players into making the miss. Needs more control in that instance. However, they already missed one kick, so something was off with the kicking team yesterday.

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    After the way this game started I am beginning to waver in my original belief that the Beavs D would keep them in at least 10 of 12 games. The play of the DE’s will have to improve for that to happen. Grimble needs to get healthy and step up too.

    BTW anyone else notice the last second D-line shift which created false starts by the opponent in the first two games? Seemed to be absent tonight, did I miss it?? That kind of thing, just like changing the cadence of the snap count, is a weapon the last staff would never try.

    • Jack says:
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      That shift was on for the first drive. There was something funky with it, like it was a tell. SJSU was able to clear the middle by letting our D line play to whichever side and just sort of guiding them along. It was as if they knew the D call before each play.

      And I think the players and Sitake noticed this and made some quick adjustments… to be more thorough at halftime.

  • angry angry says:
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    During the game they said the Beavs are only signing 10 this recruiting cycle. They already have 9 commits + 2 transfers. Anyone know if that’s true?

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      10 is pretty low, but i think i’ve seen 11 or 12 seniors on this team. You know there will be defections or academic casualties like any other year. My guess is it will be upwards 15-17 in this class when all is said and done. The recent offer to Himphill was a grey shirt offer because of numbers, so that’s a sign that they don’t currently have room but they think they will by Spring

      • Jack says:
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        Graphic during the game said we had 13 seniors. There will be attrition. Some we won’t care. Some we will.

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      Anderson said he was expecting to sign about 16-18 and may up to 20.

  • Taco says:
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    Angry is sounding so optimistic lately; I’m not used to this! Was waiting for his analysis, because I couldn’t watch the game last night; can’t get the Pac 12 network out here (what good does this stupid sports package do me, Comcast? I can watch boring-ass ACC games on CBS Sports, or something! Woo, Wake Forest vs Navy!)

    I’ve found a website I can listen to Mike Parker’s broadcast on, so I was listening to that for the first few series, up until Dockery dropped the ball on the punt return. Then I turned it off and fell asleep at 8, because I’m an old man or something.

    It sounded pretty bad, what I heard of it. Was surprised to hear that they won, honestly. Then I was reading Angry’s post about there being no energy during practice last week, and the team being divided… Sounds like this year is gonna be rough. I know we gotta give GA a couple years to rebuild the program into his own image, but yeah; gonna be rough.

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    OT: Did you guys see this banner. This is a ten. MR only had the opportunity to gag their game because of Golden’s stupid coaching in the 4th.
    LOOK: Canes fans getting more creative with ‘Fire Al Golden’ banners
    CBSSports.com? – 17 hours ago

  • marcodg marcodg says:
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    I’m becoming more and more impressed with Rommel Mageo. That dude can play.

    • Jack says:
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      He’s getting better every game. At this pace, he’s going to explode during the UCLA game, and we’ll need a new ILB.

      • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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        Ortiz? Saulo? The Inspector? ‘ol man Willis? Bright U.? Who’s your pick?

  • 2 says:
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    Mageo is a beast. Looks like a nfl middle linebacker to me.

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      Saw that coming.. Kid had raw skills but attacked the ball with no regard for human life. Good to see him starting to put it all together.

    • Beav11 says:
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      Score another one for Angry’s talent ‘evaluation’:

      “I’m not at all a fan of Songy, Saulo, or Mageo.”

      “Mageo might be tough, but I don’t think he is bright or athletic enough. I hope I’m wrong, buddy. They need him to be good.”

      “I saw an interview with him a few years ago where he speaks very slowly, too, so I think part of his play on the field is not grasping schemes. Maybe I am wrong, but I don’t think so.”

      “Mageo looks clueless and Bray is all over him.”

      “He thinks “it’s all about hitting”, and that’s how he plays, with no intelligence or concept of scheme, where to be, etc. This is all due to language barrier and bad coaches? I thought we all agreed Bray was one of the best on staff.”

      • angry angry says:
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        Where’s your evaluation of him?
        What about all my evaluations that are correct? Probably 90%+. My recruiting rankings are more accurate than rivals for sure.
        Etc. You’re facing the same age old problems with trolling.

        He’s dumb as a rock, so who knew he’d be a film junkie. There are always intangibles like that which could lead to massive improvement.

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          Given how much you touted the ‘correctness’ of your McMaryion evaluation (how is that working out for you, by the way?), only fair to note how awful this evaluation was.

          • angry angry says:
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            Gary Andersen and Baldwin both said McMaryion was the best QB and would be the starter if the season began that day. I called it when he was 7th on the depth chart. And your point is what, Gary Andersen and Baldwin can’t evaluate talent?

      • Jack says:
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        Those were addressed by some of us directly in real time junior. You’re a little late to that game. That makes it not a game anymore.

      • calibeav says:
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        I stood up for Mageo in that thread. Said he compared favorably to Pauhlui ( Bubba) AND even predicted future all conference status for Romell. He’s proving it now.

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      I don’t have the time or knowledge to evaluate players as does angry. But, for positions that require physicality, I always appreciate guys who have a wrestling or rugby background. Mageo has that and I picked him early on for just that reason. BTW he is looking more alert in the interview from yesterday, linked here. He seems to be developing a better command of english, which was a problem at the beginning.
      That said, angry does go on record frequently with his picks and is correct most of the time from what I’ve seen.

      http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/#/0

      Here is Mageo and Saulo on soundcloud. Saulo, “team pick”, Mageo, “FG a game of momentum”.
      http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=750125&SPID=127145&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=30800&ATCLID=210357294

  • Coach Drierson says:
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    Beavs had a good 2nd half. I worry about Collins being the focal point, will he hold up for an entire season? The team needs to find ways to get yards without him.

    50%-ish passing and 10+ rush attempts per game do not seem sustainable through conference play.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Paul Lucas was thrown to once I believe. At least that’s what the announcer said.

    Storm isn’t slow. Slow players don’t break off 40 yard runs, they go ~20 and get tackled. He’s just not Brandin Cooks fast.

    The designed off-tackle run for Collins was a very good play, tore up SJSU all night. Hopefully no more designed draws. Fast, slim players should be running outside, not inside.

    The defense was in an awful position much of the first half but they held on for the most part. And the playcalling was much more aggressive. That blitz by Strong that wrecked the QB….he’s going to feel that today.

    Also, they were doing those shifts quite a bit. Not sure how effective they were, but I like the attempt.

    So that was pretty close to the “Ah ha” game we were looking for, even against a mediocre opponent. Defense was decent and aggressive, Baldwin realized Storm should be the #1 option and how to run Collins a bit better. Pretty solid.

    And Collins slid once! Did you guys see that?

    • Jack says:
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      SC slid on a designed draw. That play is necessary in this O to keep the D honest. All it needs to get is five yards, and a slide works just fine.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    FYI, heard from Jalen Grimble that he’ll be back next week.

    • You know who says:
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      You gotta stop sliding into these guys DMs. Jersey chasing is for coeds.

  • Jack says:
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    I’m thinking SC is being asked to get the ball out more quickly… throw to spaces and not to receivers. And I think he’s trying to aim it and throw it hard. You can see him actually hitting the receivers as they break wide open now. He’s just got too much heat on this pass or way behind on that one. The wide open seam to Togiai is a sure TD if he takes something off that. But he also made a nice toss to him on an out route in the second half.

    And I think there were two drops that shouldn’t have happened. I don’t think we should be getting down on SC for putting busted screens in the dirt. I prefer that to trying the late sideline pass or watching the RB or TE get killed on the turn up field (and risking a fumble on that hit, btw).

    There was no stellar play. Storm looks like he finally took the ankle weights off. Brown has looked sluggish all season. But more and more receivers are being targeted and catching the ball. And you can see how wide open they are (and have been). The nice thing is I think SC is starting to see it too. He doesn’t need to be good in this offense. He needs to get the ball to an open space and let his receivers get to that open space at the right time.

    I don’t think Clute has more than the one or two late dump offs that gained nothing in the first couple games. But his blocking in the second quarter was noticeable. He’s started all three games, and I think that’s why. It’s hard to say it’s because he got in a groove without Smith taking reps. It looked like the O-line started to work together at about that time as well.

    Someone mentioned it in the other thread. The D looked bad against their script and on short rest. Potter was shut down except for screen passes to Ervin, so don’t think he was going to do any more than he did. Without that short rest D on TOs, SJSU doesn’t get more than 7 on the board. Between that and three or four missed opportunities on good drives on O, what could have been turned out to be mediocre.

    Perhaps it keeps our heads from swelling and keeps us on track while also allowing us to stay under the radar. Next week will be tough. Hogan tweaked his knee again, but he toughed it out and finished the game.

    That was stupid. I wonder if he sits on Friday because we’re supposed to suck?

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      Seriously, how long has Hogan been at Stanford? It seems like this is about his 7th year as a starter.

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        first game he ever started, and possibly played in, was vs. Beavs down there ’12. And like Angry said, easily three of his best five games ever have been vs. OSU

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          Ah yes the one with the Vaz pump fake fumble.

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            When he was beyond the LOS and could not have thrown a forward pass legally anyways. Boneheaded play that wound up costing the Beavs the game

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            Vaz memories:

            Pump fake fumble
            Kicking BYU’s butt
            Gimping around getting sacked a dozen times in Alamo bowl

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    Post Game Phil Steele Comparison:

    San Jose State Predicted/Actual Rushing Yardage: 162/104 (+58)
    San Jose State Predicted/Actual Passing Yardage: 201/149 (+52)
    San Jose State Total Predicted/Actual Yardage: 363/253 (+110)

    Oregon State Predicted/Actual Rushing Yardage: 255/303 (+48)
    Oregon State Predicted/Actual Passing Yardage: 134/135 (+1)
    Oregon State Total Predicted/Actual Yardage: 389/438 (+49)

    Prediction was: Oregon State 28 San Jose State 24
    Actual Score was: Oregon State 35 San Jose State 21, a difference of 10 total points.

    Noteworthy Positive Statistical Totals:
    Score: 35-21
    Total Offense: 438 yards
    Rushing: 46 carries for 303 yards
    Total Defense: 253 yards
    Net Total Yardage: 185 yards
    Net Points: 14
    Net First Downs: 10
    Offense vs Foe Defense: 119 yards
    Defense vs Foe Offense: 246 yards

    Overall Game Grade: 89.2

    Season Grade to Date: 74.7

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    I’m seeing tweets from some of the football visitors but haven’t seen any from the 3 basketball visitors. Anyone have a feel for how their visit went?

    Thanks to Beavblazer and whatever for this list.

    Dontay Bassett(2016)PF
    Marquell Fraser(2016)PG
    Josh Conley(2015)SF

  • angry angry says:
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    This forum could have been AB the past 6 years:

    http://nebraska.247sports.com/Board/Nebraska-Cornhuskers-Message-Board-Forum-142

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      That shits so funny. I like how they a lot of the fans think Riley will clean up the penalties and botched play. It’s just the beginning of those things. I can’t wait to see how they react when the players start giving up, and go thru the motions. That will happen at least once this year, and they will get steamrolled in at least 1 game.

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        Looking at Nebraskas schedule I see 2 more guaranteed wins the rest will be probably pretty tough for Riley. I won’t be surprised if Nebraska is at 5-6 wins total.

    • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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      “HuskerZipp said… (original post)

      4. Clean up the coaching. Some of the play calls and time management are embarrassing.

      This has me the most concerned, honestly. Would expect more from an experienced staff.”

      LOL

      #thanksNebraska

      • youngorst says:
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        The best is how they continue to refuse to believe those of us that are telling them this is a Riley coached team, its not changing.

        Denial is a strong drug.

    • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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      “Wow. Blaming Pelini for a 1-2 start. That’s rich.

      Pelini took over a losing NU team from Bill Callahan and won nine or more games every year and was 40 games over .500 when he was fired.

      Riley takes the reins of a much more successful team from Pelini and loses two of his first three games and some posters are saying, “Great Job.”

      BYU and Miami both had blow out leads only to have NU come back on them. If Minnesota, Michigan State, and Wisconsin get such leads, they won’t blow them and they will in turn bury Nebraska.

      Then we’ll see if anybody conjures up more “moral victories.”

      This is Oregon State wearing a Husker uniform.”

      Ah the moral victories have begun, at least they have a few posters over there with more than two brain cells.

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        Odds on the pirate getting canned next year and Pellini ending up at WSU?

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          I’d rather see Pelini get another gig in the B1G just to stick it to Nebraska every year

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            That would be awesome. I’d like to see the Beavs schedule Nebraska, too, but Riley would probably be gone by the time they played

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            He still gets to have his ass kicked by the Ducks again soon

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      reading that stuff brings me to tears (of joy). I gotta kick out of the one poster who said Pelini left the cupboard bare that’s why they’re having problems.

      Query to you, Angry: what was your original epiphany about Riley that prompted you to form the blog?

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        Rivals banned me for criticizing anyone (a player, a coach, anyone…), so I had to take it to the street.

        Riley specifically — probably that 2009 Civil War loss. That’s when it was obvious he was done, but I didn’t like his style before that and always felt he had a cap.

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          for what it’s worth, I was never a Riley “enthusiast” but I was okay with him until the 2010 season: the losses at UW in overtime, the WSU/Quiz incident in Corvallis, and the UCLA game that year put me into a skeptical mode. That team should have reached the magical 9 wins.

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          I think someone once posited it isn’t a win cap, but a loss floor

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            me. 4 loss RiLLLLey. That’s your baseline

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            We’re all describing the same thing so it’s semantics — the fact he’s limited [many times by himself]. Does it matter if the limit is 7 wins or 8 wins or 4 losses or 5? The fact that he has limits is problem enough.

            But I agree 4 losses seems a good bet since he’s done it every year he has coached.

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      according to them, 24 of the 79 players on their travel roster were walk ons at one point. Yet the delusional Riles says this team could beat his best OSU team?

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        It depends. Which hypothetical team is Biley coaching in this matchup? My money’s on the other one

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      Lol…some amusing reading there, thanks for that.

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    Chris Brown may be more athletic but Storm sees the field and gets to the open running lanes so much better.

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      I don’t even think he’s more athletic. Storm was always a very good athlete, he just went down after a light breeze blew on him. Now he doesn’t and it shows.

      Brown has good speed and good acceleration, but still no strength, and doesn’t seem to make adjustments when the primary gap is closed. Storm cuts and spins, Brown just runs into linemen’s asses and falls down.

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        Storm is also much better on blocking and ball security.

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          Ball security? That’s a laughable statement. Brown has one fumble on a pass, none on any carries. Storm has put the ball on the deck three or four times since that Brown fumble.

          Brown does not look like the Brown of last year. He looks like he’s lost a step.

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    I think one has to be pleased with the dominating 2nd half performances again Weber and San Jose, better execution which should come with experience would have put both those games in blow out territory. The rushing yards gained and allowed indicated as much. I also liked how receivers weren’t running free in the secondary like so many Banker defenses in the past.

    The Michigan game was a little troubling because I don’t think the Wolverines are a very good team, but it was on the road and the errors were fatal. The Stanford game should tell us much more, I’ll be disappointed if they can’t keep it “closeish” at home.

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      The michigan game will be great prep for this Stanford team. I think michigans defense is much better, like 2x better than Stanford’s will be. I think Stanford’s offense can be difficult to stop with the correct play calling. All in all, I predict a lose, but if we catch a break or two(pick 6, etc) we should be able to have a chance in the 4th quarter.

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      I think the proper “Michigan indicator” is the strength of D-lines. We will lose to every team that has a good to excellent one, like Michigan does.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    off topic, but

    Colorado State mascot Cam the ram went to graze in that pasture in the sky (kicked the bucket) before the rocky mountain showdown with CU yesterday. CSU lost 27-24. Omen? Wonder how many other live mascots wish they could die instead of being forced to watch shitty football

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      Ralphie should have been put on suicide watch looooong ago

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        I’m betting Traveller was wishing for the nearest glue factory after losing at home to the mighty Cardinal again yesterday

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    I have never seen a no down lineman set before. Our D had a few plays in the 4th with everyone standing. Has anyone seen that before?

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    Got some confidence from that win. I didn’t see any of the players looking like they were not into the game or low energy. I did see some of the young guys playing for the first time not knowing what their assignments were. However, Togai stood out I think he has more receptions than the TE combined for the season?

    Mangeo continues to impress, is he not All-Pac12? What a surprise he has been.

    Obviously, I caught none of the Stanford game, and was surprised they won. I don’t know if that is good or bad or in different for us this Friday. To beat them I suspect that we will need to play good for all 4 quarters, error free. Which might be too much to ask at this stage in the programs development.

    I hope we have a good crowd, to inspire the team and give them a lift?

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      All of the tickets available for low $$ on craigslist tell me the crowd will be disappointing again. Hope not. The attendance should shut up any talk of raising Reser for awhile. Would be a huge waste of money.

      I liked the little I saw of Togiai last night too. He got his dropped pass out of the way early. Hopefully that was his last one because that was a big play. Has good size and got himself open, so that was encouraging.

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      Stanford winning can only be good for us. You want the teams you face to win when they aren’t playing you. We don’t play USC this year. Some future year we will have a great record and then will want to have a good strength of schedule, may as well get used to wanting that sos now.

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    I was at the game and the stadium was disappointingly sparse. Eggers announced a crowd of 35K. I find that both puzzling and alarming. Late September is the absolute perfect time of year for a football game, and it was a gorgeous day. The SJSU matchup was an intriguing one – not too hard but not too easy- perfect test for a young team.

    So why didn’t anyone show up? What happened to all the offseason Anderson hype? Is the casual fan being affected by the anti-Anderson media narrative? Is the casual fan rediscovering a Riley infatuation, despite the struggles at Nebraska?

    Not good for the AD, especially with the building project trying to pick up steam.

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      the jacking up of ticket prices is pricing average Joe out?

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      I think it’s pretty simple, actually. Riley had seriously sapped fan enthusiasm and it’s going to take several years of success to bring it back. All those sell-out (or nearly so) crowds of the early Riley era (2003-2009) were a function of the fan base that Erickson had built and Riley had maintained to a degree with his 8-9 win seasons. Once the 3-5 win seasons became the norm in the late Riley era (2010-2014) attendance, and perhaps more importantly, fan attendance, energy and vociferousness dissipated. I remember fans of other teams telling me in that earlier era that Reser was loud, even people from supposedly loud-venue fan-bases, like UW. Last night you began to see a glimmer of that re-emerge on SJSU third downs in the second half.

      As for the athletic department, my source on the inside side says that energy and enthusiasm level is high (or, at least, higher) and those who have gotten with the new program and its requirements now stand out more starkly than those going through the motions; that is, the BDC hold-overs, mirroring what’s happening with the football squad in a way. I also learned that BDC rarely went of fund-raising calls himself, which, by way of example, is consistent with the view that it was Pat Casey who raised the money for the new pavilion not “Bob the builder.”

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      The way they played against Michigan probably had an effect on the crowd turnout.

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        Sure but it’s not like Riley didn’t have dozens of games that bad, or worse…

        And those losses were with veteran teams with established schemes and coaching staff.

  • alex says:
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    Eggers article: http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/273668-149433-third-quarter-blitz-rescues-beavers

    Notable- Storm Woods seems to be a big Collins fan. Sounds like those two are pretty tight.

    “We were in the hotel room today, and I told Storm, ‘I’m expecting big things out of you today,'” Collins said. “But I always expect greatness out of him. It felt good to see him do it.”

    “Barrs-Woods said Collins was the biggest reason the Beavers turned things around after halftime: “This young man demands greatness. It’s a look in his eyes. It’s the tone of his voice. He said we were going to go get seven (points). We went and got seven. That’s our leader out there. That’s our captain. That’s what changed it. He got us going. When I see him making plays, I have to make plays. It pushes all of us to make plays.””

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      Did Ortiz catch a ball as TE? I know he got the INT, but I thought I saw him catch a pass on Offense.

      That is really encouraging to read about SC. That is the kind of leadership we need at that position, and on the team. This team is in desperate need of leadership in my opinion.

      The crowd was okay. The tops of the stadium were empty, but there were plenty of seats to be had, but again the parking lot was full, lots of fans choosing not to come into the game. We talked to a group at halftime and they were celebrating somebody’s 37th birthday and didn’t make it back in by the 4th if not the game. I wish they could do more to get people in the stands.

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    Angry, and Beaver fans, did you know bringing food into Reser stadium is now prohibited? My wife and I found out at the game yesterday. It is NOT mentioned on the website, or on any signage at the stadium. My wife has food allergies and has to eat special snacks, and I mentioned that to the event staff. They told me I couldn’t bring the food inside, but I could leave it outside and if it was still there, I could retrieve it after the game. The food offered inside Reser Stadium does not accommodate the types of food allergies my wife has. I was absolutely livid! Not only that, we brought food to the Weber State game without any problems. Also, there were other families, and fans who brought their food into the stadium! Wtf? I plan on writing a letter to the athletic department to get a better explanation, and let them know about our negative experience. If the OSU athletic department is trying to sell tickets, and get people to the stadium instead of just staying home, this is not going to help. If this is in fact their new policy, we will not renew our season tickets, and we will just stay home. Watch the games on TV, and be free to eat whatever food we want. Just think about other people who have food allergies, young families with newborns and toddlers? Or, people on a budget trying to save money with large families? The OSU athletic department will be severely limiting themselves with this new policy.

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      So…don’t eat for 3 hours? Tough ask, I know, but hardly something to cancel your tickets over.

      They’ve always made you leave your drinks outside, so I seriously doubt they ever allowed food. If your wife can’t go for 3 hours without eating, maybe she SHOULD stay home.

      • Oregon_State Oregon_State says:
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        No they haven’t always made you leave your packaged snacks outside! I’ve been attending OSU football games for over 30 years, it is the first time snacks have ever been prohibited, even the event staff said so! We brought the same items INSIDE the stadium vs Weber State. We were at the game for nearly 5 hours, which is too long to go without food. Also by the time you exit Reser, most of the restaurants in Corvallis are closing. It’s not pleasant, or easy living with food allergies, it’s not by choice, trust me. It’s much easier to take care of ourselves than to expect Reser, or anyone else to accommodate us (why we bring our own food).

        • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          you can’t go 5 hours without food? How many hours do you sleep at night?

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            Try being a bear.

          • Whiskey soaked napkins Whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            I’ll just keep being straight instead

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            Hibernating.

          • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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            Seems to me OS’s beef is legit, especially if: the policy isn’t publicized, wasn’t enforced vs Weber, and the event staff said it was a first.

            As far as going 5 hours w/o food, sure most fans can do that; heck, most fans could probably stand for 5 hours to watch the game too. It’s supposed to be a fun outing to go to a game, not an endurance test.

            To be clear, I often stand at games and have NEVER asked anyone to sit down.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            legit or not, he comes across as whiny.

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            Haha.
            Amazing that guy can’t go 5hrs without food.

        • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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          I’ve always been allowed to bring food in and not sneak it. Haven’t tried this year yet, so good to know they’ve stopped allowing it. It’s unfortunate, because the cheapest ticket from the box office for the Stanford game is $80! Most people can’t afford a ticket and food at a game. And we wonder why they aren’t filling Reser. (Ps, there are much cheaper tix on stubhub, or better yet, craigslist)

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            Don’t like the model either. Should be the price that just about sells it out. $20 cheaper or so for all seats. With proper pricing they could be at or near capacity for almost all Pac-12 games which leaves a good impression on TV across the country. Most the games played on Saturday should draw 43K. These Friday night ones are a bad idea. Thursday on ESPN has the better numbers. Atleast Stanford is at 7pm vs 5pm so more can get to from Portland. Atmosphere should be good. I was at the 36-7 drubbing of USC on a Saturday night and the game vas electric. Best produced game at OSU I ever saw. Lots of Fireworks that night and even the band was at its best.

          • cj cj says:
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            $40 to park doesn’t help either!

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            park at Benton County fairgrounds and take the shuttle

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            Oregon St has no control over tv times or dates. That’s all the networks on whom they chose to televise and when. Welcome to 2015 and the downside of television contracts. We could always go back to the days when not all games were televised. You’ll take the television contract money and like where they decide to put your games.

            I don’t like it either, but that’s reality

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            It wasn’t that long ago, maybe five or six years, that I remember having to listen to the Washington State game on the radio.

          • angry angry says:
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            Apparently OSU is clueless that we’re in recession.

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      Stuff the food in your pants, like when you’re smuggling booze into a concert.

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        Kielbasa?

        • ObjCritic says:
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          Put it in the FRONT of your pants, much more favorable impression.

          Did you look at the NYT article on the UM gopher mascot I tried to point you to in the last thread?

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            You bet. Goldy gets some good pub.

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            Basketball Goldy will either be spinning his head in ecstasy or pounding his head on the floor in frustration later this afternoon.

          • Jack says:
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            heh heh

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            Amazing that this went like 40 comments deep.

            Pro tip; leave at halftime, and go get food somewhere else. Or go back to your car and eat all the snacks you could pack in there. Plus, you’re getting exercise to work those “Snacks” off!

          • Jack says:
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            It’s fair in that someone who has special needs has to be notified of such policy and needs to inform officials at the stadium of those needs. That notice wasn’t given in any way is unprofessional and deserves the deepest whine in existence. Concessions profit should not be the first thing any fan thinks about when attending a game. Not one. Nada. Zero.

            Understanding the policy beforehand and having workarounds in place is fair. I think OSU is wrong in this instance. A hard line is good only when that hard line is actually drawn.

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            People would game the system. Like it or not it is about money. I never buy anything other than coffee and that is if it is freezing. I go to watch and talk about football. Eating and drinking is before and after the game. “I can only eat organic, locally sourced, humanely raised, free range potato chips.” The crap would never end. Welcome to real football. Big time means raising big time money.
            You can’t have it all.

            Goldy is spinning his head in ecstasy, BTW

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            Yeah… pretty much a reason the system sucks in the first place.

            “Eat crap that cows shit and we overprice times four.”

            There are actual diabetics, not just ones who were stupid in life and “caught” diabetes all by themselves. What do you say to that person if s/he has allergies not allowed by OSU? Does that person just need to choose between a dibetic coma or anaphylaxis?

            Is that gaming the system?

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    Beavs open as 17 point dogs at home vs Stanford

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    Andersen needs to practice what he preaches more about valuing peak performance in 4th quarters. Like so many of Riley’s teams the foot came off the gas as far as producing points. I know it is human nature to get comfortable when up a couple TDs for the 4th quarter but atleast get 7 more points minimum. Better yet if GA really has a focus on performing high in 4th quarters the make it a team reward thing every time they score 14 points in a 4th. That will have them actually focused on keeping the pedal down and finishing off games as champions do.

    I trust GA will get the Beavers to this point in the next couple years and think it is a great philosophy but needs to be much more than lip service. Riley liked to squirm out wins in ways that left victory feeling cowardly at times. His usual wins were a good start on then trying not to lose. Over the few years I want to see Andersen’s teams have routine games where they keep attacking for TDs that draw attention to the program as winners in the 4th program. Seal it with conviction so the past culture and impression of OSU that lingers due to Riley truly does melt away.

    • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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      Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. The Beavs controlled the second half. The 4th qtr they played smart football and went to the ground game to run out the clock. Why let the freshman toss the ball around and risk an INT that could change the momentum and the game when you are destined to win if you just play it smart.

      Did you see GA let up on the gas at the end of the second half. No, but Riley would have mismanaged the clock, then just taken a knee, put his tail between his legs, and go into the locker room.

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        Don’t need to throw that much in the 4th to score points. If nothing else the special teams had a very sloppy game for the 2nd time in as many weeks. FG unit needs to go out there and take care of business like a well oiled machine when called on. Glad GA was barking like hell with that stupid delay of game. Players were acting casual and with 8 or 9 seconds left I could tell they weren’t going to get the play off. That is lack of focus and not being situationally aware. Expect much better from those guys moving forward.

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          Frankly I would have liked to have seen Mitchell (or 3M) run the offense on the last possessions and play it hard.

      • Jack says:
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        Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

        A man after my own heart.

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    OT, but perhaps of interest. The most recent issue of the Chronicle of Higher Education has as its cover story an article entitled: “An Academic Reputation at Risk: The U. of Oregon’s big brand masks its fragile standing.” (I’d provide a link if I could but I know it’s behind a subscription pay wall so it wouldn’t matter anyway.) I thought a few key passages of interest to readers of this blog were the following:

    “The Duck is always up in everybody’s face. He shoves. He body-slams. He demands to be noticed. The University of Oregon’s mascot, a Donald Duck knockoff in yellow and green, is a pure distillation of the university’s iconic brand. This is a place, the duck assures us, of unapologetically splashy sports and irrepressible good times. The image sells remarkably well to undergraduates, whose numbers have increased by 25 percent in the past decade alone.

    What has been more difficult however, is for Oregon to remain competitive with the top-tier research universities that it has for decades described as its peers. Save a few marquee programs, Oregon often fails now to measure up to higher education’s heavy hitters, which bring in more federal grants, produce more doctoral degrees, and boast higher education rates.”

    Later in the article: “In recent years, the university has been known for all the wrong things. Professors and administrators have been at frequent loggerheads, arguing over the outsize role of athletics at the university and the thorny issue of campus sexual assault.”

    deeper in: “Who among our peers, Oregon asked, produces fewer doctoral degrees per tenured and tenure track faculty member? No one. How many of our closest competitors bring in less federal money per professor? None.”

    and of course, this: “Indeed, no discussion of university priorities at Oregon has been as hotly debated as the role of athletics, which has come to define the public image of the institution. Even within the wealthiest ‘Power Five’ athletic conferences, the Ducks are known for opulence and swagger.”

    re: UO’s continued membership in the prestigious Association of American Universities, get this: ” . . . continued membership is not guaranteed. In 2011 the University of Nebraska at Lincoln, which was perceived as falling short on key research metrics, was booted out of the club. Expecting a similar fate, Syracuse University voluntarily bowed out the same year. The Association’s increased scrutiny of its members has created some anxiety at Oregon, which is often in the bottom quartile of the collective.”

    And of course, the Nike connection: ” . . . any conversation about raising money in Eugene invariably turns to Phil Knight, the university’s supreme benefactor and the Ducks’ biggest cheerleader . . . . [The new president] says he spoke with Mr. Knight within days of being named president, and he met with the Nike co-founder a couple of times since. The president is coy about the details of those talks, and Mr. Knight was not made available for an interview. ‘I will say this: the man told me he had webbed feet, and that matters.'”

    factoid: of the $847 million raised in UO’s current campaign 43% has been pledged to support of athletics.

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      Thanks, strikes me as the basis for a Canzano riff, IF he’s got the cajones!

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      it’s no secret that anyone on the academic side of things at that university cannot stand anything about UO athletics. There is quite the rift between the two sides.

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      I’m waiting for them to just drop the pretense of it being a *college* athletics program. Cut the crap, these days it’s a big gaudy athletics program with a university nominally attached.

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      Yeah… fine.

      It’s actually rather embarrassing for the state. I do not joke when I say that Nikegon is probably the fifth to seventh best school in the state. Looking at it realistically, we’re in a close race for second with OHSU. And I think Dr. Ray has us winning that and moving on.

      The extreme lack of consideration for education by taxpayers (or non-taxpayers if you will) is why we’re sandwiched by two states who clearly value post-secondary education and are left with one of our two major universities playing some fucking stupid game which pays no respect to students, educators or knowledge in general.

      Rant ends here. It’s all known and would be redundant. Public universities should have mandates to serve the public. I guess that’s why Nikegon keeps whining about wanting to be private.

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        *I’m not guessing about anything

      • OneEyedKing says:
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        1. OSU
        2. OHSU
        3. Reed College
        4. Willamette
        5. UO
        6. PSU
        7. Everything else?

        • Jack says:
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          1. Reed (by far)
          2. OSU/OHSU (it’s a push right now because OHSU isn’t as broad)
          3. Oregon Tech
          4. Willamette/Lewis&Clark/UPortland
          5. Nikegon
          6. PSU (gaining rapidly)
          7. Everyone else (SOU is becoming a very solid player in education… WOU and EOU are not slouches, but they are more ag-oriented… which negates any positives any national rankings would place).

          Note that the four at the bottom are a manifestation of public intention. Nikegon could be dumbing their own stupid selfs down because the people of this state don’t give one fuck about post-secondary education even if they benefit from it in their own pocketbooks three-fold to the taxes they would pay.

          Greedy people suck.

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    Anyone else see the VtV renderings near the end of the game? Seemed like the main outdoor one may have gone from all glass very cool Tomorrowland like style to slightly more “safe” with 3/4 or 4/5 at most glass and then a fair amount of brick at the end. That wasn’t the original design was it? OSU going a little stodgy on final plans maybe? Still looks good but I thought the brick was slightly overdone. Kind of like how that solid brick wall of the hoops center on the side of the practice field having no windows is too much.

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    Way-To-Early-Forecast for Corvallis on Friday is 50% showers…….FWIW.

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    Called it, game plan was for the offense to run with limited passing.

    Friday’s game is essentially the same test as Michigan. Keep mistakes to a minimum and they’ll have a fighting chance.

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    I’m feeling hopeful on Jaquori. Helmsley says her gut says Utah. His visit to Wiscy doesn’t sound positive. Most of them think he’s going OSU. So maybe he’s down to two? Maybe he’s coming our way?

    One thing I don’t think is that he’s a lead guard. But he doesn’t need to be one. Our system accommodates as many as three PGs on the floor at once with two of them being scoring threats and the other a facilitator. I value the facilitator role more. But you can’t win if the facilitator doesn’t have dimes.

    Jaquori is a roll of dimes. We can spend time breaking down his game. But the best compliment I can pay the kid is that he’s like Stevie Thompson Jr. He has mad range, a good enough handle to be good on the college and NBA level, and underrated length and quickness on D. If we had STJ and Jaquori on the same team, they could play together and be deadly, replace one another and give slightly different looks or sit on the bench for a breather and make opposing coaches thank spiritual imaginaries that they get tired like normal humans.

    I love love love Kone. That kid will be like Collier with an ability to play with both hands and make a mid-range jumper… which doesn’t really make him like Collier. I guess he’s like a stronger, slimmer David Lucas in his prime. I like Bassett because he’s similar but has bttb moves out to 10 feet. A little shimmy plus a turnaround 10-footer makes mid-game adjustments easy… and smart-looking. He might be redundant, though. Still, I think he’s good to great potential.

    The gem is Fraser. That kid will be a star. Was he on campus this weekend? Is he visiting next weekend? I’ve heard different things. Scouting report on Fraser is that he’s not unknown to NBA scouts. He’s a great facilitator with more than perfect size, length and a drive to play D that is noticed. He still needs a couple years to “mature” his game. He needs to put up that top of the key shot that says, “Cover me or pay.” But he will be a game-changer in college and will have staying power on the next level.

    • Jack says:
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      Best compliment I could eke out of a certain conversation:

      Fraser is Mateen Cleaves lite in Michael Carter-Williams’ body.

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    But would you honestly believe that we had been placed here on thnis planet just to respond
    to our environment?

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