03.Nov.2015 How to Handle the Oregon State QB Controversy

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  • Play Seth Collins inside the 10 yard line.
    • Reasoning: the field shrinks and life easier for DBs inside the 10. Let Collins do what he does best and run it in.
  • Play Nick Mitchell everywhere else.
    • Reasoning: takes advantage of his strengths (moving the chains/better flow) and minimizes his weakness.

Subject to change as we see more of Mitchell and dependent on whether the Seth Collins injury/transfer rumors are true.

Some variants are welcome, like running Collins on short yardage outside the 10, or using both QBs at the same time, but above is the best foundation.

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  • BlackBeav says:
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    I saw that Andrew nemec expects us to get a recruit very soon, does anyone happen to know who he is talking about? Is it chase Lucas from chandler az? If so, he would be a HUGE get for us and a great plug and play threat on offense.

    • angry angry says:
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      The defensive guy out of Oregon. Can’t spell his name.

      • BlackBeav says:
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        Do you think we will land Lucas?

        • angry angry says:
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          I used to, but now I think probably ASU. Beavs are probably 40%, ASU 60%. Blazer can probably elaborate.

        • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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          I think the staff was feeling confident after his visit, but based on his recent tweets with Byron Murphy and Nkeal Harry (who both have said they wanted to play together) I’m thinking he sticks with them and goes to ASU. The Harry announcement also got him to change his commit date to this Monday, so just through reading the tea-leaves, it sounds like ASU will get all of them.

          As always, long ways to go till February.

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      I think Nemec was alluding to Finau, but during my digging around yesterday to find out who he was talking about, I found out about another one. Haven’t confirmed it with the player yet though, so I’ll just sit on it for now. No idea when it will get announced.

      • BlackBeav says:
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        Damn. Well hopefully we can nab another good offensive player that can make an immediate impact. Was Deltron Sands able to get a medical red shirt? If so wouldn’t that make him a freshman next year again?

        • Jack says:
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          You can’t apply for medical hardship until after the season. Then it takes a month or so for a ruling. He’ll likely get it. Coaches are paid to manage their teams, and being correct about this kind of thing is a part of it.

  • Beav11 says:
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    ICYMI –

    Next time GA says someone is hurt, maybe we try taking it at face value? Lot of commenters (& angry) on here looking pretty distasteful at the moment with the unsubstantiated rumor-mongering and attacks on SC the past week.

    • angry angry says:
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      Smoke = fire.
      Pretty much every site is reporting there’s been an incident and GA is pissed.

      • Jack says:
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        I’ve not taken a side here. But what if the athlete has found himself in a dishonest position where he feels he can’t back down? I’m not saying that’s the case. I vote for legit here. But just being DA, what if the athlete has taken it this far and will go ahead and do an MRI which finds nothing?

        It’s happened before. And the question of soreness and pain wasn’t mitigated in some of those instances. But where does it go from there?

      • Tlingit Cannon Tlingit Cannon says:
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        I haven’t seen anything indicating there was a “disagreement “, maybe I’m missing it?

      • calibeav says:
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        Are there links to any of these reports I haven’t seen them anywhere Blitz etc.

      • whatever says:
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        He might have been incredibly pissed, I don’t think he’d lie about the guy’s injury status.

        • Jack says:
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          Could be both.

          Chastise iternally, praise publicly.

          • Jack says:
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            A third option… one I would both hate and praise…

            Fit was thrown before injury. That sounds like the most plausible scenario if it ever happened. SC might not want to be the starter for the remainder of the season knowing it would tarnish his record as a starter.

            Again… just an option. I would only praise it because it would make him more of a forward thinker in my mind. But it would still be quitting.

  • cj cj says:
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    Is Collins done for the season? I read that a MRI is scheduled and maybe he’s done for the year…

  • Ionebeaver Ionebeaver says:
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    Gary Horowitz reporting SC is out for UCLA.
    GA quoted “Seth had a great attitude today and he told me he aced his two tests when he didn’t go,” said Andersen, adding “that puts a smile on my face also”

    http://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/sports/blogs/horowitz/2015/11/02/osu-quarterback-seth-collins-out-ucla-game/75061616/

    I hope he isn’t out for the season, I’d like to see him play in a backup role. Angry’s idea could work. They need to do something different to score.

    • cj cj says:
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      I’ve been trying to find the article I read that said a MRI was scheduled for Collins’ knee and the possibility that he was done for the year.

      No luck. I must be dreaming or burned too many brain cells when I was younger.

      • Ionebeaver Ionebeaver says:
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        No, you aren’t dreaming, it’s in this article from the Portland Tribune. Lots of information about this week here.
        http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/279620-155891-the-beavers-plan-at-qb-and-other-positions

        “There has been much conjecture about the authenticity of Collins’ injury, but it’s real. An MRI this week could reveal damage that may limit or end his availability for the rest of the season.”

        • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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          Also in the article, “Andersen isn’t saying, but it could be that Collins’ initial reaction to sharing duty with Mitchell wasn’t positive.”
          During the old regime, Eggers often had inside info, now…probably not so much, but possible.

        • cj cj says:
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          Well it’s in that article but that one wasn’t the one. I thought it was in one of Gina’s articles, but when I looked again I couldn’t find it.

          Regardless, I’m excited about the UCLA game and having NM & MMcM on the field. Could be an interesting game if our defense shows up in the first quarter instead of waiting around…

  • Bill says:
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    Doubt he’ll transfer. At least this year. If Mitchell was winning games, sure but Collins will have another shot if he’s able to return from injury. But maybe it’ll be a good thing that he sits out. Rehab and grow. He needs to put on 20 pounds. Then work all off season on throwing.

    A non contact injury is usually pretty serious.

  • Angry@angry says:
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    I don’t think it would be fair to yank a guy every time you get inside the 10. Mitchell would be thinking if I led us down here why can’t I get a shot to punch it in? if they like bot QB’s, give them an equal opportunity.

    • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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      Play them both inside the 10 and have endless possibilities.

      Moot point since Collins is injured.

    • Jack says:
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      I don’t think it would be fair to yank a guy every time you get inside the 10.

      My fantasy RB agrees with you… or I do in his stead.

    • angry angry says:
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      Mitchell would have to get over it since it’s the best scenario for the team. If Collins is injured, the entire post is moot, so…

      • Jack says:
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        It’s not like he didn’t have to with the wildcat anyway.

        • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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          exactly, gives you more options than putting Storm in the wildcat formation.
          Seems like having both Collins and Mitchell in at QB would give the most options, then depending on the defensive personnel, move one out as a WR and keep the other as the run/throw option. Worked pretty well in that first series of the CO game.

  • PdX says:
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    I would like to see the 2 QB system more. What we are currently doing isn’t working, so when SC is healthy, why not just run it full time and see how that goes?

    • Beav in TX says:
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      I don’t think you have to run it full time for it to be effective. Just do it enough that it causes confusion and lets you set up a few different plays from the formation.

      • Jack says:
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        No… but you either have to have Tom Brady or create the illusion you are going to run it every play.

  • Beav in TX says:
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    You don’t need Tom Brady to have two potential passing and running threats in the backfield.

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      Yes, but don’t get the supermodel without him.

    • Jack says:
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      Yes, but the opposite is not to run every play. It’s to pass every play. Tom Brady is the only QB I’ve seen who can beat anyone with that strategy. It’s highly successful for some college programs until they face someone who can stop that method. It is the weaker method unless you have a Tom Brady.

  • bleedorange says:
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    So if we can only take two more players assuming were taking 18 and that number doesn’t change what other two do we want. Probably lucas? I don’t know the recruits well enough. What do u think bb.

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      I dont think there’s a hard cap at 18 (also Finau wont count due to mission). I still think Fred Mauigoa is a guy to watch. A couple DL’s would be good too. Mbem-Bosse would be amazing, but just dont think that happens, despite the official visit. (I just noticed when I tweeted about him a couple weeks back I didnt put in his visit date and left it hanging…oops) If Lucas somehow chooses OSU, they’ll find a way to fit him in despite the current class size.

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    OT: Bizzaro world. West Coast rodent’s game will be over by the time the Midwest rodent’s kick off.
    Need a new beer strategy.

    Mitchell ran better than I thought. Since he has a much bigger upside in the passing game, the injury to Collins may be a blessing in disguise, as it give him more reps. It is all about next year at this point. See how he does with extended PT.

  • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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    I think the only issue with StHC inside the 10 is those are exactly the throws that he can’t make, therefore you’ve basically said we’re running it. I guess there is more than one run threat, with a RB, and possibly HB, as well at Seth, but at this point his short passing game is still subpar.

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      I was thinking if angry’s proposition is that they only run with Collins, then it’s too easy to defend. D would just need to pile the box and no one is running anywhere.

    • Jack says:
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      He’s going to throw a fade or roll out until he sees something he can hit. Yeah… it’s limited.

      Optimally, he would be trained to stare down his first read until he turns and hits the wide open TE over the middle, like Mariota did when he was young. He’ll keep his feet set toward the middle, but stare down the right side. DBs can’t see his feet.

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        They can’t see his feet because he is hurdling them. They need to look up, not down.

  • wannabeav says:
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    I think the logic of playing Collins at the same time as Mitchell (as either a WR or RB) can apply to Bolden as an RB too. The sooner he’s shifted out of a receiver position the better.

    • Jack says:
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      He should be the slot. Guyton has proven himself over the last two games. He should be competing with Jarmon for reps inside.

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      And take away those Jerry Rice like hands?

  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    I like your sceario, Angry. If SC doesnt like the rumors that were floating around, then dont be such a hot head.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Trent Dilfer just said Riley would make a great candidate to coach USC if he’s not feeling loved on Nebraska.

    Just lost respect for your opinions, Trent

    • Jack says:
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      He did not!!!

      Libel!!!!!!

      (did Dilfer not go to FSU? was the red and white he wore really NU?)

      • Mb says:
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        Trent Dilfer was the primary leak last season as a mouthpiece for 49er management against Jim Harbaugh. Everyone in the Bay knows that Trent was the biggest media rat.

        • Jack says:
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          That doesn’t mean the farty-niners aren’t just stupid shits who can’t lead brilliance to waste.

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      Just what U$C needs, Mike Riley; destroyer of programs.

      • Jack says:
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        They survived Kiffin and Sark. Riley would be the best of their hires in the last seven seasons.

        Granted, that’s not a high bar.

        • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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          Hire Riley and they will kill anything worth saving that is left at USC. But then agian it would be nice to kick the shit out of the Trojans with Riley at the helm.

          • wannabeav says:
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            just think of it; OSU finally breaks the streak and wins vs. SC at the coliseum for the first time since 1960. that would be vintage

  • thebeaverman says:
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    Do we have a good chance at landing Elysee Mbem-Bosse?

  • Whiskey soaked napkins Whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    The first college football playoff rankings are a complete fucking joke

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      Yes they are.

    • Jack says:
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      Not as much as the AP poll has been for the last several months.

    • angry angry says:
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      Of course they put LSU and Alabama in there so whichever one wins that game gets in.
      The corruption in the sport will just turn off more people. It’s basically like boxing level corruption and trending down. As I wrote a few years ago, we’re in the process of “the death of college football” — paying players will be the final nail in that coffin, but this playoff is the penultimate.

      • Jack says:
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        Link?

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        the fact that Alabama and Notre Dame are ahead of 4 unbeaten teams just goes to show how much of a fucking sham it really is. Baylor and/or TCU both deserve to be ahead of those posers. i hope Stanford buttfucks Notre Dame into next spring at the end of this month

        • angry angry says:
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          I haven’t researched the playoff system b/c college football is corrupt and a waste of time (outside the beavs!), so I don’t know how much SOS factors into the playoff. But I just saw Baylor is 109 is SOS.

          I think they left Michigan State out and put Ohio State in because OSU has a larger fanbase/travels well, etc. Corrupt. But they probably figure if MSU beats OSU that will be their shot to leapfrog into the playoff.

          This sport is a disaster. Someone on mainstream media should have the guts to call it for what it is.

          • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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            I should be done by current SOS and current record. All one losses are out until there are only 3 unbeaten teams left.

          • Jack says:
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            *It

            Completely agreed.

          • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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            *thanks

          • Jim says:
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            Then you are rewarding junk out of conference schedules like TCU and Baylor have.

          • Jack says:
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            Not really worried about non-con at this point. Win your conference first if you want claim to be a champion of any kind.

            All things being equal at the end of the season, then non-con can be the tie-break. But let’s talk about nine versus eight conference games first.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            and what teams did the mighty SEC contenders play OOC? Or some of the others even? Let’s have a look shall we?

            LSU………..the powerhouses of McNeese St, Eastern Michigan, Syracuse and Western Kentucky
            Bama…….Wisconsin, Middle Tennessee, Louisiana-Monroe, Charleston Southern in a few weeks
            tOSU……..Virginia Tech, Hawaii, Northern Illinois, Western Michigan
            Iowa….Illinois St, Iowa St, Pitt, North Texas
            Mich St….Oregon, Air Force, Western Michigan, Central Michigan
            TCU…..Minnesota, SMU, Stephen F Austin
            Baylor…..SMU, Lamar, Rice

            tOSU gets credit for playing Va Tech and N. Illinois is no slouch either. Bama for Wisconsin. I’ll agree Baylor’s OOC is a joke. but so is LSU’s. Your argument is pretty weak considering almost ALL of these teams played a weak ass OOC schedule. Bama is only in the first four due to playing in the SEC merit. They do not deserve to be ranked ahead of anyone undefeated.

          • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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            Mich state has the hardest OOC on that list (arguably), with Oregon and Air Force.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            quite possibly. and they aren’t even in the top 5

          • ObjCritic says:
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            “This sport is a disaster. Someone on mainstream media should have the guts to call it for what it is.”

            Agreed. As long as mainstream television media benefits from it so much, I find it difficult to believe anyone will call it out. I am not sure people in other media formats have enough of an audience? Maybe if it starts elsewhere with a solid argument, lazy television media will pick it up and present it as their own.

            The have-nots that are left out will simply be dismissed as whiners: “You want to get in the playoffs? Then beat the SEC/tOSU!” As if it were only that…..

      • Jack says:
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        I’ve not seen the poll. And now I know two of the four. But I would make it this way:
        1. Clemson
        2. Mich St.
        3. TCU
        4. LSU
        5. Baylor
        6. Iowa
        7. Memphis
        8. Okie St.
        9. Houston
        10. Toledo

        I am not picturing what everything will be next week… or next month… or at the end of the season. I am only ranking players as they are now. It will, of course, change should any one of them lose. At that point they drop according to the quality of that loss.

        Win your fucking conference if you even want to pretend you’re a champion on any level. That is my first parameter.

        • Whiskey soaked napkins Whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          Northern Illinois has Toledo on the ropes tonight

          • Whiskey soaked napkins Whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            Down go the Rockets 32-27

          • Jack says:
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            Then they are removed.

            Simple as that.

            You want to stay in, don’t lose… not that any rankings matter at this point in time. But they should at least uphold the parameters they pretend to set forth.

          • Jack says:
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            *pretend to uphold?

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        or say Bama squeeks by LSU and both get in as a 1 loss. Because the SEC is so strong. Granted TCU and Baylor still have to face each other. Iowa, MSU and tOSU have some games against each other as well

        • Jack says:
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          I would stop watching college football altogether when two teams from one conference make it to a “playoff” consisting of four teams.

          My relationship with college football would end faster than cold turkey.

          • Jack says:
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            And I would spite my old habit more harshly than a former smoker does his. I would rail against complete stupidity and all projected stupidity based on the current stupidity.

            I would say I would do it tenfold. But that’s a lie. I could fall out of bed and write a treatise on the evils of NCAA football. Blah blah blah.

          • Jack says:
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            I’ve been trying to figure it out…

            How fast is cold turkey?

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    Not really trying to imitate lonebeaver’s teenage sons, but Horowitz has posted a conversation with our gal Mandy. BTW, she’s engaged to Taylor Kavanaugh.

    http://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/sports/college/oregon-state/2015/11/03/mandy-close-part-osu-womens-basketball-resurgence/75095864/

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    OT- Gary Payton II coming in at 36 in espn top 100 college players this year.

    http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/13991627/cbbrank-counting-top-100-players-college-basketball-2015-2016

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  • StarcraftSquall says:
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    Wednesday Practice Report:
    https://t.co/PBfWELjxjJ

  • StarcraftSquall says:
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    Mizell Tuesday Radio Interview:
    https://t.co/ofzBPylcR8

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Hey Jack!

    off topic, but since the offer with the Nationals fell thru, what do you think of Bud Black? Reportedly he is going to interview with the Dodgers. I think he did alright with a Padres organization that really wasn’t intent on spending on free agents to win but rather thru development from within their farm system. Gabe Kapler has been the rumor to be the most likely replacement for Mattingly. That hire would do nothing to excite me. What say you?

    • Jack says:
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      I like Black if only for the pen. Our bums are the last to embrace moneyball. And that’s if it is to happen. Great pitching… great D…. timely hitting. Those will win once again.

      Those tenets are what have been winning play-off and WS games since previous management teams have been selling off our farm talent for this or that late season slug… year after year.

      Kapler is doing a fine job… at his job. I see no reason to turn that table.

      I would spend everything for two years with La Russa getting the ship on course. I would spend less, but love just as much, bringing Mikey home. If we can’t convince either of those two, I choose Haselman.

      But it would be a bonus if Black was in the pen.

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        last I heard LaRussa was with the D-Bags organization. Highly unlikely they allow him to move over to their much hated rival after they partied and pissed in their pool 2 years ago. Scoscia is also unlikely. Doesn’t mean they can’t try. Latest I’ve heard it they are trying to sign Honeycutt and Wallach to stick around long term no matter who the next manager is. Although Wallach’s name has come up for new manager as well. Other names I’ve heard rumored, Dave Roberts and Darin Erstad.

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          LR is just some executive ambassador or assistant or advisor or such. I’m sure they hired him to look at their system and point out what is wrong. I’m sure he’s very good at whatever they’re asking him to do.

          I don’t presume to know what people like. But living in Phoenix is more than a poor life decision. Living in Zony is the same. There’s a reason the Spaniards colonized New Mexico and California… and paid no mind to Zony.

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            I had to look it up. Chief baseball officer…………….from May, 2014. Gibson and Towers are both long gone……….

            La Russa will report to team president and CEO Derrick Hall and oversee the entire Baseball Operations department, placing him above Towers in the pecking order. Via the statement from Hall in the team’s press release, it certainly sounds like the GM and manager, respectively in their fourth and fifth seasons in their current positions, will be under the magnifying glass:

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            That’s interesting. I hadn’t thought much about what he was doing there. I would respect any advice he gave if I were them.

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          I saw Roberts and Erstad. Rumors are Roberts impressed the brass in several interviews. I’m surprised he isn’t already the M’s manager.

          And I was mistaken. I’ve gone back and looked at what Friedman has said over the past year. He definitely subscribes to moneyball. He just calls it advanced statistics.

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    Another women’s basketball recruit, cool. Any info on Maddie Washington? Just praying Ionescu doesn’t end up at hole…

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    I don’t put a lot of stock into who ESPN has listed as who a player is considering as they’re 50/50 at best based on prior observations. She visited and seems to have a friendship with Tudor via Twitter who was on the trip with her and all OSU during it.

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    How did the Old Man do this past Saturday? This is a player that has been of interest on this site since his commitment. Is he significantly quicker/faster than other Beaver LBs, does he read plays well and get to the ball efficiently?

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2015/11/jonathan_old_man_willis_quickl.html#incart_gallery

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      On the first drive he was rushing to the point of attack and getting knocked out of the hole. He adjusted and started to be patient and scrape off blockers and right into the ball carrier. And when he had shots at Wilson, his angles were such that Wilson couldn’t deke and run forward, allowing help to catch him if he missed.

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    CFB playoff rankings…..
    PSA: Talk to Your Kids About the SEC Myth – Off Tackle Empire
    http://www.offtackleempire.com/2015/…/psa-talk-to-your-kids-about-the-sec-myt...
    2 days ago – An Iowa fan took it upon himself to respond to last week’s Alabama themed “Talk to your kids about undefeated Iowa” video.

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    Good to see that Jack’s meds have kicked in and he’s back to normal, or what passes for normal in Jack’s world. After that weird gynecologically obsessed lost weekend.

    The good news for Jack is that all his coat hangers are sorted by color, the toothpaste tube is at a precise right angle to the faucet all the home doors locks have been tested dozens of times. JB

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      don’t poke the bear!

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      The coat hangers are all the same color. So technically, you are correct.

      What’s toothpaste?

      How do you test a lock?

  • Tlingit Cannon Tlingit Cannon says:
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    Sounds like NM and MM will both play, this will be interesting. I think we finally get a win

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      For the most part I like Andersen’s openness to experimentation; this is probably practice for the time (if or when) Collins gets back.

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    OT- Gary Payton II is 36 on espn top 100, but fox has him at 26 on top 50.

    http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/college-basketball-s-top-50-players-ben-simmons-kris-dunn-fred-vanvleet-110215

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      Still UNDERRATED!

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        Ftr… I think he’s somewhere around #10. Too much emphasis is put on potential and offense. Rate them as the player they are now in the college game, and do so as a whole player.

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    Was directed to these by a friend who suggested this guy would be scary good at USC (he’s an SC alum). I must admit, I think he’s totally correct. This guy is good.
    http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=14044373

    So good, radio guys had him back again today. Starts at 55:30.
    http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=14051428

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      One of the very observant Husker fans on 247 (Cleatus) suggest Joe Moglia to replace Riley, since he has Nebraska ties.

      Since he isn’t in it for money (millionaire many times over), it’s going to be hard for USC to lure him to the West Coast, I think. Many NYers retire to the Carolinas (Moglia is 66), so he has a pretty good thing going and doesn’t seem to have coaching ambition.

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        While that all may be true, I think he does have ambitions to lead at the highest level of his profession. And I don’t think it’s a competitive thing. I think he just believes in what he does and would like to impart that wisdom to the widest audience available.

        Wherever he ends up, I can see him standing above the fray, directing his team with cold, hard decisions that are best for the team and individuals alike… making them neither cold nor hard. He reminds me of another New Yorker who went on to get an NFL championship trophy named after him.

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        Moglia basically built that program by himself, and they’ll be making the move to FBS soon. It’s a matter of whether he’s more enticed by continuing to elevate CCU, or moving up in his profession.

        That said, he isn’t in the vein of the recent hires at either USC or Nebraska.

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          He’s nowhere near those hires. I imagine he is superior with boosters and his team alike. I can’t believe anyone would listen to what he has to say and would come away with any doubts about who they are and who they could be. I’m just blown away at how honest he is… and how correct he is. I thought I liked GA for his ability to be frank. Moglia surpasses that by a bunch.

          Isn’t CCU the school with something like a 65/35 ratio of women to men attending school? Are they a commuter school?

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            You’re thinking of Winthrop.

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            I’ll also point out, the majority of the football facilities at CCU were paid for by Moglia himself.

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            I don’t think that’s true. He said specifically he has not given to the school because it would look like he bought his position instead of earning it. And he goes so far as to say that he likely won’t be giving anything in the near future because “schools have enough money as it is.”

            I remember that statement because I’m thinking he would know this truth coming from a money background. The arms race that is college football could just be a waste of money. I take from his statement that “facilities” spending is like that third ice sculpture fountain at a six-year old’s birthday party.

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    Let’s talk hoops: im predicting our men’s team goes 21-9 in the regular season before getting to the semis of the PAC 12 tourny. Also think they will get around a 9-12 seed in the NCAA tourny. PAC 12 is going to be surprisingly deep this year, I think teams 1-4(zona, cal, Oregon, Utah) will be top 6 seeds in the tourny. I think USC will surprise people this year too. If we can beat mom conference teams like Iona, Tulsa, and Kansas we will definitely be a top 25 team going into PAC 12 play barring any upset losses! I think Stephen Thompson Jr. And tres tinkle will get tons of minutes early and I can see STjr scoring as many as 11 a game this year. He’s draino from anywhere on the court. Go beavs!

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      Non conference*

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      First they have 29 games. The first game is an exhibition.

      Second, that’s pretty optimistic to beat Kansas on the road. I have them at 18 and 11.

      I’m predicting they go 8-3 in non conference. Lose to Kansas, split the far west classic and lose a dumb one on the road to UC Santa Barbara or Rice.

      Go 6-3 at home in conference and 4-5 on the road, finishing at 18-11. Bubble team for sure. NIT guaranteed.

      1-1 in the conference tourney.

      They’ll make the tourney for sure IF these things happen,
      1. Beat Kansas.
      2. No home losses in non-conf.
      3. At least go .500 against tourney teams in conference. (AZ, Cal, UCLA, Utah, Oregon).
      4. No bad home losses in conference.
      5. Make the semis or finals in PAC12 tourney.

      With a weak non-conference schedule, they’ll need have a winning record in conference. It’s not going to be easy making the tourney this year. The freshman will really need to contribute. Expectations are probably too high for the freshman. Don’t be disappointed if they run into rough patches.

      Would be really fun if they made the tourney. Payton leads the team to NCAAs after his dad was the last one to do it.

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      9-2 in noncon with L to Kansas and Valpo or Tulsa
      11-7 conf play which gets us 4th
      1 win in the conf tourney
      21-10 overall and we squeak into the NCAA’s as an 11 seed in Dayton.

      If we go 10-1 in noncon, we’ll bypass the play-in game.

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        I’m buying Tulsa as the tougher out. They have nine returning seniors from a good team. Perhaps Tinks can glean a better scouting report from one of his commits?

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          I’m just glad to see they’ll have more games under their belt, including KU, before playing Tulsa. Iona out of the gates is a bit scary but as long as GP can control English, we should be ok.

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      I think that’s fair. I do think the conference is wide open this year and may end up with as many as seven or eight teams in the Tourney.

      Astute observation with USC. They have been young and undisciplined. But they are talented. If it comes together for them, they could be really good. They could be monster next year if they all stay. That’s the trouble with making it big time. If they do well this year, some will leave and disrupt their roll.

      I’m not quite sold on Utah… or even Zony for that matter. Wright was the gear that all other gears meshed with. I expect a drop off from them. But Coach K will mitigate that some. He is that good. Zony, however, needs time in system because Miller really isn’t as good a coach as he is a recruiter. Still, never discount the talent he does recruit.

      Nikegon… harumph! I want to say they’ll be worse off without Young. That may be the case. Everything I want for them as a rival and as a fan of justice (renamed karma for this purpose?) probably won’t happen because the one thing Dana can do right is coach a hoops team to success. I think they have great talent incoming (equal or just a little lesser than ours). If they come around by New Year, they could be a tough out for anyone.

      Cal… absolutely impressed with their incoming frosh. I don’t see the coaching doing anything to elevate any of their games. That being said, their talent is really really high. Dawkins is the better coach in the Bay. But he has admissions problems as well as his inability to be a salesman. If he could recruit like fellow Dukie, Amaker, he would not have to build and reload in cycles.

      You didn’t mention ASU. I’m actually scared of Hurley. His pedigree is stellar. He did an awesome job at Buffalo. ASU might struggle this year. But they will be stellar for decades if they take care of that dude. And he will make Miller look like a so-so recruiter. Maybe not this year… but I fear for the future Pac with that dude.

      I don’t know if Alford is strong enough to overcome the turmoil he inherited at UCLA in as short a period as they may demand. He’s one helluva coach, and he’s at the premier hoops school, which is what he wants. But Howland just killed that program with a thousand little cuts… and a couple slashing melees. He needs a couple years to flush out the stale culture of past-borne entitlement. It’s like the players there have some malaise where they just need to walk on the court, and they win… and then they don’t. It’s just hard to put a finger on who they are now. Alford will Hoosiers that team given time. But will he get time?

      I’ll never discount Boyle. But I think other Pac coaches took notice of his evaluations and cut him off. He might have problems with geography in terms of where he is and where his recruiting bases are.

      I think Kent is the best Pac coach in Washington (and Mexico). And I think Romar has great incoming talent and will just throw the ball on the court as he always does. I expect hot and cold from both teams.

      And then there’s OSU. We have a great core returning. They’re not all NBA talent. But they have built themselves and become relevant on their own terms. They were the best defensive team in the conference and one of the top five in the country last year. But depth made itself known and diminished reality… which I guess makes it a reality of its own. But now we have what we had last year times two. Stevie, I think, will be the lead scorer. He is so pure, it’s ridiculous. Little Tinks will take about half a season to hit his stride. But he still has the ability to be a major contributor while finding his way. I’m interested in the bigs. And they will be tested early due to injury. There going to be some situational tinkering. And I wouldn’t be surprised to see Tinks go small many times early. But it looks like we have a choice between an enforcer in GR and a run-starter in DE. Both will buy in and play their roles. And Bruce looks like he’s always playng in slo-mo (as does Stevie). When the game looks like a stroll in the park, that has to be scary for the opposition. I don’t see the strength he needs at this moment to be a lead G in the Pac. But his abilities are there in spades. And I think Malcolm has grown significantly within his game, giving Bruce an excellent model.

      I like your projections as far as records go. I would say 22 is the number +/- 2. I think the non-con games you mention are the ones we can lose and still save face. And I think we win 2.5 of them… hoping the .5 of one is better than the other team’s .5. It’s hard to imagine beating KU there. But I would rather we beat our heads against that wall until we do so, making them respect us enough to take a try at Gill.

      It’s amazing that we are riddled with various injuries, yet there is still a calm about the program. That would not be the case this time last year. It is quite apparent we have very good players two deep everywhere. I’m excited to go watch a bunch of games this year.

      I just need to find good seats where those stupid seat backs don’t kill leg room… and the band isn’t in my ear.

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      I went through the games and I think men’s goes 7-3 non con, with losses to Tulsa, Kansas, and Valpo. Go 11-7 (8-1 home, 3-6 road) optimistically, probably 10-8 in conference. So I’m thinking 18-10 through the season, or 19-11 post Pac-12 tourney since I expect a 5 or 6 seed playing against a 11 or 12. That’s fat bubble team right there. But anything goes better than this, from the Pac-12 tourney picking up an extra win, beating a team like hole or Stanford or UCLA on the road, beating Cal at home, being Tulsa and Valpo, all things being constant I can see them making the tourney. W

      For tourney purposes, we can’t really count NW Christian as a game even though it does count for our record i.e. it’s not an exhibition. I’m cautiously optimistic, but I’ve watched every team play so I don’t know if we’ll just win a lot, but the team should do well and I’m excited.

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        at worst, they’ll have a winning record if there are no real big injuries.

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          Winning record won’t cut it, they had a winning record last year. Winning record gets you a CBI invite.

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          I’m saying 18-10 is low end. Let’s go with 20 wins.

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    Also, yes, he’s been consistently good, but CCU plays in one of the weakest FCS conferences.

    There’s also the poor track record of FCS coaches moving to FBS that Angry pointed out last year when people thought Beau Baldwin would be the next Beaver head coach. For whatever reason, it rarely works out.

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      I know nothing of his football system. But I imagine he isn’t beholden to any one system… maybe?

      My love for him may break down with further analysis in that arena.

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      Tressel did ok going from Youngstown to Ohio St.

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        He was ultra connected to the HS coaches in Ohio and could get any player he wanted in a talent rich state. Plus he was a lifer coach.

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          It’s funny, I saw something where a Nebraska fan was bringing up Tressel as a Riley replacement. I guess Tressel’s ban ends after this season?

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            My brother wants them to hire him. I would imagine some school will at least sniff around to see if he wants to coach again.

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            “The sweater” is on the fan’s list for potential Purdue hires.

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        He was very much the exception, rather than the rule.

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    Collins speaks (read: mumbles) about the injury.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2015/11/oregon_state_beavers_practice_73.html

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      Another reason why freshman should be off limits to media. Until they’ve seen their teammates go through the process and are coached up on how to respond to questions, they shouldn’t be available to the media. They need to learn the media isn’t their friend, they will keep asking follow up questions. A non answer isn’t going to cut it.

      As for the interview, he sounds embarrassed. Probably one of those injuries where you do something dumb and hurt yourself. Like jump off a roof like me and feel fine. But then later the pain hits you.

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        Commentor orangecrush0810 responds to the story,
        …… . If the guy was Pinocchio that nose would have stretched to Eugene

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    Wednesday Practice Report:
    https://t.co/0UorSfJrKg

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    Collins has a hyperextended knee, which typically only requires 1-2 weeks for recovery. My guess is we see him back in practice next week.

    Baldwin tells UCLA the gameplan and says we’ll be running up the middle on Saturday.

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    Wow, the video interview with Collin… is he high? Talk about shifty. I don’t know what is going on there but glad Mitchell is in for FUCLA Saturday. http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2015/11/oregon_state_beavers_practice_73.html#incart_river

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      Still not buying the injury. God that was painful to watch. I think I hurt my knee watching it. I don’t know

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    Ted Miller of ESPN with some negative Riley comments:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/94189/struggles-at-oregon-state-nebraska-fall-on-riley

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      pretty much. he was once a good coach. good, but not great. The game has passed him by and he refuses to rid himself of dead weight (his good ol boy coaching staff). He seems stuck in the “it worked once so it will work again” mantra. Maybe someday the pro offenses will make a return to the college game. But for now, he and his posse are outdated. Yesterdays news. The dinosaurs couldn’t adapt. They died. Adapt and survive. He refuses to do so. And that will be the final nail in his head coaching coffin.

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        There’s nothing wrong with the pro-style offense. The right staff could bring in it to a program and be successful. Unfortunately, the MR team wouldn’t be that right staff anywhere.

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          Not saying there is. However the landscape has significantly changed, geared towards spread and up tempo offenses. So defensively would you expect their schemes to work against those teams? How can Gary Patterson install a successful 4-2-5 scheme? My entire point was Riley and his coaching staff are dinosaurs the game has passed by. They aren’t willing to change because it worked in the past

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      how sweet it is to see Ted “be careful what you wish for” Miller eat crow. And a whole lot. These are my favorites: (1) “the most obvious facts don’t speak favorably of Riley and his staff;” (2) “mistakes, of which there have been plenty;” (3) “tangible reason to believe the 62 year old Riley isnt’ going to work out in Lincoln;” but it gets better with: (4) the team Riley left was “in a shambles” with GA taking over a very weak program; (5) and his new team “is in a shambles, too;” (6) principally because of “ineffective end-game coaching;” (7) with the loss to Purdue being the worst since to Hawaii in 1955; (8) ending with the coup de grace; the AD’s statement about rebuilding Nebraska “brick by brick” being more customary at Vandy than Nebraska. Just a devastating indictment and complete vindication of the AB argument.

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        The same Ted Miller who said over and over that OSU fans who wanted Riley fired were “nuts” and even alluded to the “be careful what you wish for” line.

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          Yeah, can you fucking believe it? After kissing Riley’s ass for the better part of a decade, Miller has the balls to now say that Riley left OSU in shambles and is driving Nebraska into the ground. He may be accurate, but I don’t want to hear it from this fucker!

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            be sure to click on Ted Miller’s link to the video and story on how the loss to Purdue was an epic fail on Riley’s part not equaled since the loss to Hawaii in 1955. Pure gold!

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            Totally agree with both of you. Ted has always been very even-keeled with regards to controversy, except when it came to criticizers of Riley. Then he resorted to name-calling.

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      There’s interesting discussion on reddit about this article.

      UCLA fan says: He also made Oregon State–which is probably one of the worst jobs in the conference and incredibly hard to recruit–a Pac-12 contender and sent dozens of players to the NFL

      You sound like a lot of Oregon State fans I know with those excuses, that’s why we kept him around far, far too long I guess. Dennis Erickson got us to the Fiesta Bowl his second year on the job. Gary Andersen is recruiting 3x better than Riley ever did in his second year.

      People act like Corvallis is some kind of shithole like South Bend, Indiana or something. It’s a great town, a fantastic college environment that some kids are looking for, you just have to be willing and able to sell it. Mike Riley was too nice to be a salesman, or too much of a pussy, so he’d get a bunch of okey-doke kids who didn’t mind cruising through 5 years on scholarship. (I believe he secretly hated Corvallis and that’s why he didn’t recruit very well.)

      Look at our baseball team, both of our basketball teams…recruiting at a high level to the same town, the same campus. What’s the difference? Mike Riley isn’t coaching baseball or basketball.

      • DubiousBeav DubiousBeav says:
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        It’s obvious Riley couldn’t sell Corvallis. Whether or not we keep this recruiting class intact, GA is successfully selling the town and the culture of OSU to kids Riley couldn’t even get a response from. Corvallis ranks near the top on tons of annual livability rankings, using all sorts of different metrics amongst them, but any journalist, columnist, or whoever is so damn lazy to bother researching anything, so they just spew a misleading narrative to fit their biases. Corvallis is a perfect example of THE college town and experience, and it sounds like GA and company know how to run with that. Riley and others just appear to use it as an excuse as to why you can’t be successful here.

        You can’t sell Eugene to some kid from LA easily either. They fixed that issue with fancy facilities. With the new locker rooms, media room, players’ lounge, etc. next season we will finally be on par with the rest of the country.

        Regarding the other comments, Riley doesn’t get a pass like GA due to circumstance. The cupboard wasn’t bare at Nebraska and they aren’t one of the youngest teams in the nation. They’ve won at least 9 games for years and can hardly even be compared to the mess GA inherited–a team that lost their last 12 of 14 Pac-12 games, a 2015 recruiting class that was looted, and crop of players who weren’t recruited for a spread offense. I expect a winning season next year. Nebraska fans expected at least 9 wins, with 8 being a worst-case scenario this year. One thing’s for sure, for all those who wondered how Riley would do with “talent,” you now have your answer.

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          “Kids Riley couldn’t get a response from?”

          More like Kids Riley never even bothered to even ASK.

        • Jim says:
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          I think Angry made an excellent posit a few years ago that Riley had become enamored with the success of diamonds in the rough like Mike Hass, and wrongly assumed he could reliably reproduce that success as a large component of the team. This probably contributed to less aggressive recruiting.

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            I think he just wasn’t the salesman type and he set the tone for recruiting throughout the program. Attitude ALWAYS starts at the top.

          • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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            Well, if you just look at the lack of energy Riley showed during games, you get the notion he didnt really care about winning…just kind of hoped for it. So one might expect he did the same in recruiting. Didnt put real energy into it…..

        • Jack says:
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          That’s kinda the point. Riley always had talent. But he rarely had depth (if talent) in the trenches. And when he did, schemes and techniques were flawed. Our losing team last year had how many draftees and how many UFAs?

    • Jack says:
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      Fuck Ted “Who are you going to get” Miller.

      That is all.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Eggers on this weekend’s game:

    http://www.pamplinmedia.com/pt/12-sports/279629-155667-kerry-says-expect-a-competitive-osu-ucla-game-but-

  • mckalk says:
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    Husker Nation is even on to the antics of Cavanaugh now. I guess the O-Line has been atrocious all year, but our favorite foul mouthed grumpy coach is saying that the second string is so bad he won’t consider playing them. One commenter succintly writes….”Cavanaugh is an idiot”.

    http://www.omaha.com/huskers/mckewon-huskers-steady-coach-producing-unsteady-product/article_25d13c86-8115-11e5-b419-e7af6d09973e.html

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      #thosepoorbastards

    • ObjCritic says:
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      Cav always seemed to get a free pass by most; so overrated. The O line talent at NU can’t be that bad. Leave it to this staff to “Coach ’em down!”

      God what a horrible staff…

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      I’m so tired of mediocracy.

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      From the article, regarding leaving Tommy Armstrong home last week

      A captain, a supportive teammate — he should have been on that plane. You figure out a way to make that happen, especially when the guy whose redshirt was burned to become the kickoff returner — Jordan Stevenson — wasn’t one of the three guys who returned kickoffs against Purdue.

      Reminded me or our recent discussion of StHC staying in Corvallis last week.

      Also, gotta wonder if MR confused Jordan Stevenson with Jovan.

      • Afghanbeav Afghanbeav says:
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        Hahahahaha. Ouch. I wonder if he keeps Ol’ Jovan employed somehow to make sure his grandkid has a daddy.

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          Last I saw, he was working at 2 Towns Ciderhouse. Makes some good stuff for a living.

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    Someone go post there. They couldn’t believe what angry and SS said (and others?). They are wondering what the hell. Ted Miller is no expert on Riley except he’s a fucking idiot who likes to make money for talking about sports. I have always and forever loved and respected every word out of his mouth.

    http://forum.huskermax.com/vbbs/showthread.php?79783-Woeful-seasons-at-Oregon-State-Nebraska-point-to-Mike-Riley-s-mismanagement

    Hit that link many many times. Make the admin realize we have always known about Riley and his “loyalty”. Yay for us. Yay for NU.

    Oh… and thank you so very very much. At least you get a dedicated special teams coach out of the deal.

  • Less is Mora, Jr says:
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    Las Vegas has the Bruins pegged as a 17.5 point favorite in this game. QB Josh Rosen is on pace for several Freshman records and I believe he still has yet to play his best game.

    The Oregon State defense has been interesting this year holding some teams below their averages of yards and points. How do you feel about how the team is playing? Has the team gotten better as the weeks go by or are there too many injuries and they are regressing?

    I feel like UCLA has been uneven but we have lost a ton of players to injury and with a freshman at QB I think most expected some inconsistency.

    The Bruins are still alive in the South race, but can’t afford to overlook anyone, even if the Beavers show up without a win in conference play.

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      Beavs lost by 15 at Utah, I think they match up better vs UCLA…and the game is in Corvallis.
      Without going online or to LV, where can I get a piece of that 17.5 action?

      • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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        What, can’t handle the whole 17.5?

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        Only place I know is Atlantic City, Las Vegas or Reno! Lol

        I could see a 9-17 point Bruin victory happening but you never know. UCLA has been one of the top recruiting teams in the nation these past few years but every season seem to play themselves out of contention, and drop a game or two they should win. But then we’ll win by 50 in the next week…..

        For me it’s which QB do we get, good Rosen or bad Rosen??

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          There you go again. You talk about UCLA, then you say the Ducks are going to win by 50 in the next week… and then you won’t play UCLA this year, so you won’t get any Rosen.

          ?

      • issaquahbeav says:
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        I’m going to Vegas this weekend. Pay me some $$ and I’ll throw a bet down for you.

        • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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          Go ahead and put down $20. We can arrange to meet and split the winnings upon your return!

    • angry angry says:
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      I think this has become pretty simple:

      OSU has to play their “A game” to win, and they haven’t been able to string together an offensive, defensive, and ST performance yet. We all feel they will once this year, but it’s impossible to predict when. Making most lines and predictions just complete guesses. A reasonable person would think UCLA wins the game, but Beaver fans know this team probably has one complete performance in them at some point, and they hope this is the week (every week). So far it hasn’t happened, but they seem to be getting closer toward that.

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        If we’re taking for granted that Nall will be reliable when called upon, and the current trend of the defense will hold, it’s really all on QB play. Mitchell has definitely improved, but I still have a hard time believing he can win a game.

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          He’s progressing to later reads. But his release looks long, and his throws to those late reads are behind. But he’s throwing to windows that won’t get receivers killed. I think the play calls are what bog him down. When we get behind the chains, he’s not as efficient. So running early and setting a habit of tiring their D-line for the second half (as always) should be a priority. He can move the ball between the 20s. But his inexperience and current habits make it hard for him to push it deeper. I think that’s why angry suggested SC would be better once we’re in that position. SC is not good between the 20s, but his mobility opens up the D in a short field, even if he is predictable with his throws.

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          Your last sentence is spot on.

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          What we need is an opposing team on a downer, who bozo it up.. Meanwhile our guys finally get it together and do without the mistakes. Doesnt have to be fantastic play, just no mistakes. And we get a win.

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        Players gotta play by ability not seniority meaning if a kid displays spark continue to mix it up keep
        the opponent guessing stop being predictable; GO Bevs!!

    • Jack says:
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      You say you feel UCLA has been uneven, and then you go on to say the Ducks have a lot of injuries and a frosh QB. I fail to see the relevance.

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    No wonder all the CFB coaches like MR. He just saved another one’s job.
    Boilermakers to stay with Hazell in ’16
    ESPN.com – 5 hours ago

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    Oregonian posted a projected starting lineup for tonight’s exhibition
    Payton
    Duvivier
    Morris-Walker
    Schaftenaar
    Eubanks

    Interesting to see if Moran has some inside info to project Thompson and Tinkle coming off the bench. Coach Tinkle did say that this game wouldn’t feature the regular season rotation.

    I’m most curious to see how the young bigs handle themselves. How fluid they look and how they fit into the offense.

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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      Radio only?

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      The young guys should be ecstatic about this coming season. The returnees are solid defensively, and need offensive firepower. Yeah, anyone getting minutes is expected to grind hard on D, but the new guys will be expected to light it up on O. Light it up and you’ll get lots of minutes. A freshman cant ask for much more than that.

      GO BEAVS!!

  • mckalk says:
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    Am I the only one still trying to wrap my mind around Nall getting zero carries? Baldwin finally tries to explain over on O-Live today.. Paraphrasing, but he said “Utah’s front line is impossilbe to run on so it was futile to try”? WTF, you have an experienced line, you have a beast at RB, you can’t give him the ball three or four times and see what happens? Plus, we get the ineffective Wildcat crap with Bolden UP THE MIDDLE. Sorry, ti’s bullshit and gives me pause for concern about Baldwin long term.

    • angry angry says:
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      They answered that Q and said it was that they didn’t think he was a good matchup vs that opponent. Makes no sense, but that’s their logic

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      You think to O line is good? If you watched the episode of The Dive last night GA explained this in a little more detail. Utah is only giving up a very LOW average ypc on runs up the middle. I do agree you should try a few times at least. But, they felt it would they more successful trying to get to the edge

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        “Speed Kills” With 1 – 2 good blocks your speedsters can run full speed on the edge to the HOUSE Baby!!!! Gotta Trust & Believe !!!

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      they were also using Nall as a lead blocker on wildcat runs. Still didn’t work.

    • Jack says:
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      Hey, look on the bright side. Utah’s D looks more potent on inside runs due to their 100% success rate against us.

  • StarcraftSquall says:
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    Thursday Practice Report:
    https://t.co/0LDcTEObez

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      The two-minute drill, which typically ends a Thursday practice, did not start well for the first-team offense. On the first play, Victor Bolden dropped a pass over the middle.

      Color me shocked

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    PHIL STEELE REPORT:

    UCLA – Offense: #17 – Defense: #20 – Special Teams: #9
    Oregon State – Offense: #95 – Defense: #92 – Special Teams: #74

    UCLA has won 7 of the L/10 meetings in this P12 rivalry, but there have been 3
    str outright upsets. That won’t be the case this yr as the Beavers st’g QB Seth
    Collins, who is also their leading rusher is not expected back this week after inj
    his knee. His replacement, rFr Nick Mitchell has been a disappointment thus far
    as he is completing less than 50% of his passes. Not only do the Bruins have
    significant edges on offense & defense, but they also have a huge edge on ST’s
    as UCLA has my #9 ranked unit while OSU has my #74 ranked ST’s. I’ll call for
    the Bruins to win by 3 td’s.

    UCLA 38 OREGON STATE 17

    Position by Position Edges
    WHEN UCLA HAS THE BALL:
    UCLA QB/WR’s vs Oregon State DB’s: UCLA +1.72
    UCLA RB’s vs Oregon State LB’s: UCLA +1.87
    UCLA OL vs Oregon State DL: UCLA +1.18
    WHEN OREGON STATE HAS THE BALL
    UCLA DL vs Oregon State OL: UCLA +0.23
    UCLA LB’s vs Oregon State RB’s: UCLA +1.68
    UCLA DB’s vs Oregon State QB/WR’s: UCLA +2.00
    MISCELLANEOUS:
    Special Teams: UCLA +1.40
    Kicking: UCLA +0.49
    Coaching: UCLA +1.55
    OREGON STATE TOTAL: 0.00
    UCLA TOTAL: 12.22
    Position Edge Awarded To: UCLA by 12.22 Points

    PROJECTED BOX SCORE (UCLA/ORST):
    Projected Rushing: 215/210
    Projected Passing: 228/143
    Projected Yardage Total: 442/353
    Projected Final Score: 37/19
    Experience Rankings: 22/120
    Team Schedule Strength: 15/27

    COMPUTER CALCULATIONS:
    Las Vegas Line: UCLA by 17.5
    Las Vegas Total: 57 Points
    +/-: UCLA by 18.0
    Game Grade: UCLA by 12.1
    Computer Yards: UCLA 442-353
    Computer Points: UCLA 37-19

    Other Pac-12 Predictions from Phil Steele:
    Stanford 35 Colorado 17
    Washington 19 Utah 16
    USC 47 Arizona 24
    California 43 Oregon 40 – ONE STAR BEST BET ON CALIFORNIA +4.5
    Washington State 34 Arizona State 31

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      he also had Utah winning 40-10 last week. I have a suspicion this game will be closer than most people think

      • StarcraftSquall says:
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        Before last week’s game, had you seen anything to indicate otherwise? Don’t get me wrong, I want the Beavers to win, but before the narrative changes, the play on the field does.

        • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          yes. I’ve seen it for the last 10 quarters. Slowly, they are growing up and starting to “get it”. UCLA is decimated by injuries and starting a true freshman QB. He’s a very good freshman QB, but still a freshman. I expect a close game on Saturday. If things break right and the beavs make some plays, dare I say it? A win??? Could happen. Shut down the FUCLA run game and force that frosh to beat you with his arm. That’s what you gotta do to beat them. Whiskey’s prediction?

          Beavs 20, FUCLA 17

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            Hell yeah whiskey!!! Go Fffing BEAVS! Ships getting straight and players are buying in. The first conference win is coming up. Also I missed the last cal game down here due to my kids sports but I don’t recall ever losing a game previously for about a decade that I attended. Sorry but I’m supersticious with sports…= I’m going. Anyone going to the cal game too? We always take over a parking lot in Berkeley and throw a nice tailgater.

            Go BEAVS!

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            I’m heading down there as well, already signed up for the OSU Tailgater. Now I have to figure out where a good spot to park is…..

  • StarcraftSquall says:
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    The Drive (Oregon State at Utah):
    pac-12.com/videos/drive-oregon-state-utah-episode-6

    Requires a TV account login to watch.

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