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This is a huge game for recruiting. You can see the visitor list on the Twitter feed. Not only that, but this senior class has played for nothing all year, other than laying the foundation for future success; it would be nice for them to actually accomplish something and end the Ducks’ streak of 8 straight wins and go out on a positive note. They know this and will lay it all on the line. For those who like schadenfreude, the Beavs can relegate the Ducks into last place in the North. It’s like the “Battle of the Roses”, in reverse.

I don’t see any way the Ducks stop Nall, which will setup passing opportunities for McM. Meanwhile, the Beavs D, despite being thin and gassed most games, has played well for the most part. “Next man up” is playing out for that unit. If the Beavs lose this game I’ll be shocked.  Crowd should be wild, as it’s Resers’ first sellout in ages.

Should be a good day and nightcap with some recruit commits.

31-21 Beavs.

501 COMMENTS

  1. Go Beavs!!! But I must admit I won’t be surprised if the ‘ucks win. They’ve recruited better talent over the last 4 or 5 years and talent usually wins.

    Win or lose I’ll be happy if the team doesn’t look like shit. Give it your best guys!

    And here’s hoping the OC calls a game that’s best suited for McM’s talents.

  2. McM looking likes he’s putting it all together, passing last week, running this week, patient…managing the pace and using clock again…

  3. Damn, I thought the Ducks might wilt. Looks like this will be tough. They’re going to wear out our D quickly with that pace and our poor depth.

  4. Anyone notice Arnold blow up Freeman on that run last drive? What a great play. Came flying in full speed from safety and just nailed him/blew up the pile.

    • UO is going to get their plays and yards, but the D and tackling against this offense looks SO much better than Banker and Stake with Riley recruits….

    • OSU staff says Bolden will play ST on Sundays. I disagree..NFL coaches don’t like to hold their breath and rosary beads on every punt reception…plus he’s too damn light, that Duck defender held him with arm, picked him off his feet, stripped him…

      • He’ll definitely play in the NFL. Probably as a kick returner ala Gerard Lawson. Maybe some WR if NFL coaches can figure out his problems.

  5. Looks to me like the OC is calling for QB keepers. I can see one or two plays like that but WTF is the OC thinking – – what will he do if McM gets injured?

  6. Fortunate to be tied. Cut down the penalties and throw some more to the backs to keep the D on their toes. McM looking pretty solid again. Last team with the ball wins type of game?

  7. Beavgopher, we haven’t done a “that’s what she said” in ages. Need to find a spot. I see a comment above about penetration, but it’s not doing it for me (Twss?).

  8. Halftime show gives player of the game so far to McM. It’s going to be hard for GA to ignore his good play come next season

    • True. There were a couple balls that I was sure got tipped at the line. They were just wobbly, it seems like the harder he tries to throw the more they waggle.

      As long as they’re accurate and on time they can go end over end as far as I’m concerned.

  9. McMaryion has looked the best of all the QBs this year but he’s still not good. If he improved his throwing consistency he’d be a competent game manager. He just misses too many throws right now.

  10. Energy level is so low to start this half…not good. D must be gassed already.
    Crowd seems out of the game, too. Overall vibe changed a lot.

    This isn’t good. Oregon is going to reload for next year. This is their chance to win one and they’re blowing it.

  11. We keep getting these guys at the worst time. Last year when Vernon Transfer was healthy, and this year once they’ve stopped sucking and are pulling things together.

    Thing is, it’s not really bothering me a ton anymore…

  12. Need some leadership from coaching staff and some player(s) too restablish intensity. They can’t sit around and wait for someone else to do it…

      • You rang? I think he either didn’t want to run or the coaches told him not too. “I” never said he couldn’t run. “I” thought he might be scared. That’s not the case it seems maybe the coaches weren’t letting him run til now. It’s actually a pretty smart game plan for late in the season.

    • It’s not the people who said he wasn’t running. That was true. It was the people who said he was slow/couldn’t run. Never saw evidence of that, and in fact saw the opposite when he did scramble.

  13. Beavs would have had 6 wins if Nall was healthy all year. Next year they’re going to be good. Expect some big recruits committing tonight.

  14. FINALLY AFTER 9 YEARS WE HAVE GA BIG BOY PANTS!

    AND RILEY IS OFF IN THE CORNFIELDS CHEWING GUM DOWN #TPB SIDELINES!

    IT’S A GREAT DAY TO BE A BEAVER!!!

  15. Those last 3 series was some old school ground and pound shit. So awesome. Thank god for the monsoon because I don’t think they would have run the ball that much if it had stayed dry.

    • The crowd was angry about all the passing and shit for the first bunch of series in the second half. I was hearing very loud grumbling about not running the ball. I promise I didn’t start it.

      Then the rain and wind hit, and people were cheering because they knew we were only going to run… and they were giving each other high fives.

      And then the onside with the phantom offside happened… and nobody was really that upset.

      That’s when I knew we were going to win.

      That phantom offside, btw… I haven’t watched the tape… was the ref tossing the flag before the kick? I don’t know why I was looking at him at the time, but I was thinking he was reaching and tossing the hanky before there was any possibility for a foul to be committed.

  16. OC’s called a good game, McM with some nice running g, one great one where he had a great fake, pulled the ball back, and got what, 20+ yards.

  17. Nall and O-Line were awesome. Unsung heroes were Mcmaryion and Artavis Peirce with some huge runsto keep drives going and fire up the crowd and the team

    • 310 rushing yards. The O-line has to get “players of the game”.
      Nall was amazing but I think the hogs had a chip on their shoulder as a unit.

  18. Finally after three civil war losses in a row, redemption in Corvallis.

    Coaching staff does not abandon the run.

    This team has toughness and is gaining in talent/skill.

    Despite two really bad calls, we prevail.

    Solid game plan today.

    Great day for recruiting as long as the rain doesn’t scare them away.

    We beat Oregon at their game running. Pierce and Nall look great.

    Not a good day for Bolden. I appreciate him but sketchy at times.

    Great day for the seniors. Thanks guys. Harlow should be the MVP for
    the season. Unselfish. Nall was great but Harlow solidified the line.

    Game ends up 34-24. Angry calls it 31-21. Nice.

    Excited for the future.

  19. Great ducking win! Overcame some terrible officiating and the typical untimely Bolden mishap to pull off a gritty win. Should build some nice recruiting momentum and good energy heading in to Spring Ball.

    Hopefully QB is Marcus’ job to loose.

    • Parker on the post game show alluded to some recruiting/commitment news is expected in the next 24 hours or less.

      Also, saw that GA has a 5:30am flight tomorrow to hit the recruiting trail. Gotta close those deals tonight before heading out.

  20. I love how the Beavs owned the 4th quarter. That’s a big role reversal. This team does not quit and does not cower. GA’s influence was on display today big time. Can’t help but think a Riley team would have wilted in the 4th.

    • Agreed. Us scoring 20 unanswered points was big and I didn’t except that. Loved seeing run it play after play. The Ducks couldn’t stop the run. McM running today was great and perfectly timed today as some else said earlier.

  21. I just got back from the game and it seemed as the rain started to fall the game turned around. What a fun game. It felt like the game was over when the by the beavers was over turned due to the PI call but the beavers held in there a took win and rammed the ball down the ducks throat. One guys in the stands was so funny best line all year

    ” hey ducks you must like stuffing because we are going to stuff you the run” it was great

  22. I’m not sure why on the post game they’re also saying Pierce is faster than Nall. Not true from what I see. They’re also saying Pierce has “shimmy”. Nall is not just a downhill runner. He dances around and jukes just fine. It’s weird that because Nall bowls people over everyone assumes he’s just a downhill runner. He’s a breakaway runner, a juker, and he can bowl people over.

    • He keeps his shoulders turned up field, and moves laterally then forward again with surprising dexterity and quickness and defenders seem to buy into the more limited description of his abilities. Fine. 5 YPC on the season, power, breakaway speed, can catch…

      If he stays healthy, could be best since Jackson, better top end speed than Quizzz, equal or better tough and elusive style, reliability. Has he fumvled yet?

      • Good race….I dunno…Pierce quicker start, Nall better top end? Nall also runs faster in response to being chased…

        Splitting carries between them will be a nice problem to have.

        Angry called Pierce best in the class, “SEC-type w/better speed.” In a year or teo, he’ll be a game changing, best of PAC rb alongside Nall. They’ll make life easier for McM or Luton….

        • Yeah I like Pierce don’t get me wrong, but I think Pierce is a little slower than Nall. At least in pads and in real game situations. Both are good all around backs who can do everything well. Nall is a better, though.

    • From the Oregon Ducks Wikipedia article right now:

      “Nike co-founder Ryan Nall ran in the University of Oregon Track & Field program under the other Nike co-founder Bill Bowerman.”

  23. Post game presser. GA compliments McMaryion again this week for his smart play utilizing the game clock and says that was the plan all along. I don’t recall how many times many of us stated the way to beat the ducks was with a ball control offense that eats up clock keeping their offense off the field. They’re going to score points, don’t panic and stick to the gameplan. Who’d a thunk it? Don’t need to throw the ball all over the field to beat a team like that (RiLLLLey). Granted these aren’t CK’s ducks anymore

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw90a6f8nGs

    • Better get one in the mail!

      Johnny Hekker
      2h2 hours ago
      Johnny Hekker ?@JHekker
      Congrats to my @BeaverFootball boys today. What a way to send out the senior class with a #CivilWar W!
      How do I get a Nall jersey?

  24. Nike’s rumored uniform update may be replete with “big boy pants” now, no elastic in waist, and uni features orange cleats with metallic green and yellow on soles from “running over Ducks…”

  25. Great play calling and execution. Followed the game plan and ran it down their throats. Really like mcmaryion with the keepers. I think at some points he was surprised to be as open as he was. Nall and pierce with some huge runs. Pierce was critical because he was able to spell Nall for a series without any change in running success. It’s going to take a helluva QB to overcome McM as starter.

    Really sucks that beavs aren’t going bowling. I think they’d have a real good shot at winning too.

    Glad to see this win for the seniors. GA has definitely instilled his philosophy on this team.

    #GoBeavs!

  26. Canzano on Helfrich:

    Helfrich didn’t do anything his way after Chip Kelly. Helfrich operated like a guy who was watching the neighbor’s house while they were on vacation somewhere. He fed the dog. He turned the sprinklers on and off. He picked up the newspaper and mail. But he never made it his house.

  27. After finally calling down a bit, I’ve gathered some thoughts,

    1. The weather dramatically changed the flow of the game into the beavers favor.
    2. If I’m Oregon, I’m wondering how they didn’t put the game away in the third.
    3. The team showed a lot of heart in the 4th quarter.
    4. I think it’s fair to say the beavs didn’t benefit from any bad calls.

    Great win for the program. MM will be the starting qb at the beginning of next season. The other guys need to push him hard though.

    Still a lot of work to compete at the top of the conference.

  28. Just me, or are startin to hav a log jam at qb?

    Marcus McMary….. Leader goin into nxt yr?
    D Garretson…..better leader, coaches fav?
    Jake Luton……could he redshirt nxt year?

    Blount…..Why was he ahead of Marcus?
    Moran……..will he pass blount?
    Incoming frosh to redshirt

    • I think McM and Luton vie for starting job next year. Mason gets more time to grow, strengthen arm, Garretson becomes a valuable back up with game experience, running ability.

      I bet McM gets voted to captain in spring ball, Garretson out as captain. Nall too likely gets voted to captain.

      • I’m not so sure of that. I’m paraphrasing, but there was even a quote from GA today about “seeing how long they will have to play offense this way”. GA does not think McM is the answer, but he may not need an answer, he just needs a competent game manager for now. GA also said somewhere that a P-12 offense needs to score 40 points a game to win consistently. McM isn’t GA’s choice, but maybe they are stuck with each other for the time being?

        • McM should transfer, imo.
          He’s a good player. Might not be great, but he’s good and has upside yet. If GA doesn’t think he’s the answer he should tell him and not string him along.

          • If he can get a scholarship offer from a school with better academics, maybe. I doubt he’s thinking of getting to the NFL. The best thing about football for him is the scholarship.

            It may be unfortunate that McM didn’t get an opportunity until the other QBs were injured, but he now has a resume of league play and empirical results. He helped break the CW 8-year losing streak. Its hard for anyone to unmake that or to go backwards to someone demonstrably less effective.

            I think he ought to work his ass off during the offseason and come back with a stated goal of starting.

        • I’d like to see Andersen’s quotes to that effect. He has said he is considering an “air raid” approach, and it looks like the recruiting class could have quite a few promising WRs.

          But you’ve got two more years of Nall (maybe 1?), Pierce for 2 – 3 more, Green and others in the pipeline, and west side, late season Oregon weather. Does he really want to get that far away from a run game? Not that a team can’t run out of those spread passing attacks, but that seems like a solution to a personnel issue OSU doesn’t have anymore (lack of rb depth, lack of run-blocking lineman).

          There was a time an air raid approach sounded interesting when Riley clearly wanted to throw, wouldn’t commit to the run game, and run blocking seemed to suffer as a result, and it felt like OSU needed at least ONE coach with some aggression.

          But with some of the early discontinuity in the program – Sitake > Clune, Baldwin > Dual OCs, I hope a major offensive change isn’t in the works. I think the OC approach needs to settle out, and the WRs need to contribute consistently. Not to mention the ability to have at least a two-deep of TEs, which has been lacking most of the year.

          Agree OSU needs to score more points and more consistently. But 34 points in yesterday’s weather is nothing to scoff at. Take away the weather, add some WRs who can separate and catch, a couple of healthy TEs, and OSU gets beyond 40. Then they have to do it against good+ defenses….

  29. I think helfrich is done at Oregon. More so because of his lack of hiring on defense. Failed to replace Aliotti with anyone decent . That’s where he really came up short. Had the talent but not the coaching on that side of the ball. Helfrich won’t be out of a job for long, but won’t be a head coach at a power 5 for a while.

    • Let’s hope not. I want a complete melt down in eugene, like no more sellouts, guys transfering, guys decommiting. Then if he fuck it up bad and gets canned mid season, Hoke takes over and runs it into the ground for the rest of the season. It’s only fair…….for such a nice group of young men.

    • Um… Aliotti… good… replace… wtf?

      Aliotti was never good. Okay… he was almost decent when he had one giant NT playing for him. Otherwise, he had Ds who didn’t let the opponent score more than 40 ppg.

      • I say this with all sincerity.

        Banker is a better DC than Aliotti.

        And if you don’t know what I think of Banker’s abilities, then you probably don’t want to know.

  30. Thank you Nebraska! Great job by GA and the team, Drinking a Not the Stoic that I stashed away a couple years ago to celebrate the next CW win. Ya baby!

  31. @Angry. You should revisit the preseason picks and predictions. I got the the four wins and CW victory correct. Things are looking up at OSU.

    • I picked four wins on the year. Took crap from some Duck fans at work for it. I did pick us to win the civil war to get to 4 wins. Should be interesting at work on Monday.

  32. Beavs are 4th in the North and 7th in Pac12 overall?

    Prediction for 2017:
    Beavs have more wins than Oregon, Nebraska

    I think the oline coaches have done an incredible job from the off-season to the civil war, considering all of the retirements/attrition from injuries they suffered.
    Clune is a major improvement over what we saw from Banker and Sitake. I’m excited for what is coming.
    Power running, explosive playmakers and a stifling physical defense=wins

  33. Strongly suspect quacks will hire PJ Fleck. With that win at all costs BS stunt he is alleged to have pulled, utterly screwing over the WMU commits when he first arrived, he will fit right in.

    • I researched him last night, and his biggest win is either Northwestern or the Bahamas Bowl…he’d fit in better at Lincoln than Eugene. Those poor bastards II.

      • I just read some rumor-stuff that Notre Dame will go after Fleck hard if Brian Kelly bails. If that happens the Ducks will possibly look into the “other Kelly”. I’m not sure what’s going on at Notre Dame, kind of sounds like Kelly has given up on the program.

      • But they may want to manage the perception that they’re hiring the hot hand, the up-and-coming next thing…they can’t market Helfrich. And as you said, they don’t appreciate how unique Chip Kelly was; it wasn’t just his offense and pace, it was his focus, attention to detail, his constant competitive drive.

        UO has the resources to regain relevancy, but it may not be quick turnaround unless Knight could pull someone like Saban or Meyer away with his “$10M” offer and whatever long term Nike benefits they get. They still have plenty of offensive talent, but its the D that’s going to take longer to correct.

        • Exactly, Chip’s hyperfocus/OCD and attention to detail were once in a generation. He coached like a cult leader, totally getting everyone to buy in to every word he spoke along with the ideas of grandeur. It worked. Master motivator day in and out. And that’s what great coaches are, because all of them know the Xs and Os.

          Oregon thinks they can just hire a guy who runs the spread and get back to glory. Nope. They need to find a master motivator, and there are very few out there. Luckily we have one of the few. Odds they try for GA? lol..??? :/

        • Point taken on CK and his offense but here’s a counterpoint…………..

          Statistically? Oregon’s D was average at best under Aliotti (Duck fans referred to him as Allowalotti). Oregon would put the clamps on with the up tempo offense and getting opponents behind early and panic. We all saw it over and over and over again. Those defenses gambled quite a bit. They could. They usually were ahead. When other team would panic and abandon the running game, they would feast. It’s a bend but don’t break strategy that worked due to CK’s offense.

          Another counterpoint is that Oregon could run up tempo all day long and the could not substitute and eventually wore out. I don’t remember what year but that is no longer the case. If the offense substitutes, the defense is allowed to do the same and the referee will stand over the ball not allowing the offense to run a play. That negates an advantage they once had. Track athletes in open space against tired opponents = success and big plays.

          Angry is spot on that CK was/is a brilliant mind. In college football. Doesn’t work and won’t in the pro’s where every player is big, talented and fast (unless you are the brownstains. Fuck Cleveland.) He was a once in a lifetime coach that every other coach will be unfairly compared to in Eugene. The wet dream is CK comes back. He failed in Philly and the forty whiners are a tire fire. That isn’t his fault but he chose to be in SF. He hated recruiting and schmoozing boosters. But things/feelings can change and maybe he might realize his system is best utilized in the the college ranks. I don’t see any names out there that the Ducks could bring in that would change their fortunes overnight. Saban isn’t coming. Neither is Urbs. But money does talkand PK does have a shitload of it. Stay tuned

          • No, they never played great D in terms of stopping people. But Kelly compensated for that by challenging his D to get TOs and score and his special teams to score. And they did.

            When I say the D turnaround is going to take time, I mean for two years its been atrocious. Hoke will be gone with Helfrich. There willl be a new coach, maybe a new system, new terminology, and they’ll need a bunch of pampered kids (see UO players’ remarks throughout this year) to buy in, toughen up, and provide leadership. Then they’ll need to execute, avoid injury problems, recruit, etc. I’d say that puts them at 2019 at the earliest, which would be Herbert’s senior year. Between now and then there’s likely some mediocre bowl games.

            On the offensive side, they’ve got the speed and I think they’re set a QB for three more years unless a total new system is brought in.

            But they won’t get back to the Kelly level unless their D and ST are scoring, and/or they develop a D that can actually stop people. Which in NCAA football seems like a thing of the past for most.

  34. Complaints of a lack of innovation, uninspired…competitors catching up…Ducks football?

    Possibly more troubling for Nike is the sentiment that its pipeline of hot new products has run dry. “I don’t see a whole lot of mis-execution at Nike,” said analyst Andrew Burns of D.A. Davidson. “What I hear from the critics is a lack of innovation, newness. Flyknit, (a groundbreaking footwear technology) has been around for four years. It was great. But you can’t take credit for that forever.”

    Camilo Lyon, an analyst with Canaccord Genuity, echoed those sentiments, calling Nike’s new products “weak and uninspiring.”

    http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2016/11/nike_still_in_the_lead_but_los.html

    Of course Nike is still in the lead and Ducks football is not, but I found some of these parallels amusing. Chip Kelly = Flyknit? Apparently the Mariota Sports Performance Center didn’t, well, perform.

    • Flyknit and primeknit don’t correct the crap “technologies” that are the soles of these shoes. But they do lead to a correction of the soulless labor abuses that created their billions of dollars of profits over the years. Now they can automate production of plastic socks attached to foam souls with a glue gun.

      But don’t tell me some neato story about how the idea was inspired. We already know.
      https://www.amazon.com/Make-My-Day-BG1010-Sandals/dp/B00A785NOS

      You know they’re trying to apply the “new” tech to the production of their plastic clothes as well… wait… knitting in the round is not new tech? You can just knit your own sock then dip it in that can of rubber stuff you see on TV.

      This does inform you of the future. The only newness of it all is the proprietary software.
      http://fortune.com/2015/12/15/3d-printed-shoe-race/

  35. LOVED that W! Great predictions Angry.
    Didn’t want to mention it before the game but Marcus posted the #5 espn top game qbr this season as of Thursday; definitely want to see him confident and competitive in spring camp. His keepers made Nalls job easier. Loved pierces effort in relief of nall. If only we had Nall (and Marcus) all season.

  36. Just my opinion, I think one of keys for the Beavs in 2017 will be improving the run defense to take another step (bowl eligibility). They forced some key fumbles, but you can’t always count on that. Statistically, it was bad. A few more stops this year and the Beavs could have been 6-6.

    • Yes the run D does need to improve but keep in mind the numbers of injuries on the defensive side of the ball this season. Quite a few true frosh had to step in and play. Big picture thinking though, as the young pups got experience, more offseason conditioning and training and more talented recruits will provide better depth for next year.

      That aside my biggest concern for next season is O line. 3 seniors played their last game yesterday. Yes there are a few “big boys” that are committed (we shall see on signing day in February), there’s probably more the coaching staff would like to get.

      My early prediction for next season is this team wins 6-7 games (but is capable of winning 8). Only road non conference game is at Colorado State and Minnesota will be at Reser with a green QB.

      Slowly the culture of the program is turning from complacency. Next season there will only be a handful of Riley recruit leftovers. And if they’re still here it means they’ve probably bought in. I expect a bowl game next season. Continued patience. We’re starting to see the transformation. Albeit slowly.

      How bout them Buffs? Worst to first. With GA and this staff I don’t see any reason the same thing can’t or won’t happen here.

      Ain’t it great waking up the day after a civil war win? Go Beavs!

    • True, and I think they will. With more time under Clune, some experience gained on the DL, and healthy LBs, the run D should improve markedly. The current, quality CBs and the incoming JC CBs should give them some flexibility up front as well.

    • I’m not sure where the run D ranked or what the final stats looked like, but just based on observation they were aggressive tackling, missed far fewer tackles, and were in the backfield more than in the past. I noticed it Game 1 vs MN and it never letup except vs WA and CO (tough games, so it’s understandable). Even in the WA and CO games they gave effort while losing. Their tackling just wasn’t as good.

      Considering the influx of bodies and most key guys are returning, I think they’ll be fine. Also, GA is much more about D and hands-on there. I’d say it should be low on the list of concerns.

      Clune’s D seems so much better than Sitake’s, btw. Small sample, but it’s night and day. Some of that might be players buying in completely this year.

      • There were a couple of duck drives (scoring drives) that the defense looked like they were on there heals. Thank god they collected themselves and dug in. When they came out from the half and scored after our 3 and out the game could have gotten away from us very easily.

    • Some of that’s on the offense, remember when we couldn’t pass our way out of a box? Part of that was game-plan (Cal win). Need the offense to provide rest to the d. Three losses by one score or less… Better injury luck and efficient offense and we could have had 7 wins.

      • and if my Aunt had balls she’d be my uncle.

        The cal game could have just as easily been a loss. The bottom line is this team and program got better as the season progressed. No blowouts after the game in Boulder. Despite the injuries. Would they have been better with McMaryion as QB from day 1? Maybe. But would he have lasted the entire season? Unknown.

        I’ll admit this coaching staff has a few warts but they grew up and adjusted late in the season too and played to the teams strength . I’ll take GA and his “buddies” 10 out of 10 times against Riley and his lazy misfits.

          • not sure if you’ve watched Cal football. Chucking the ball all over the field is their MO under Dykes.

            Bear Raid (word play on AIR RAID). Psssst. Dykes figured it out too late in that game.

          • YOU

            “remember when we couldn’t pass our way out of a box?”

            ME

            “I’ll admit this coaching staff has a few warts but they grew up and adjusted late in the season too and played to the teams strength.”

            But then you brought up another coaching staff’s inability to adjust? Not trying to start a whip out our dongs war here but my point remains the same. Good coaches adjust. Maybe they didn’t earlier in the season when they could have but even if they had, your 7 wins prediction remains just that. Conjecture. We don’t have Saban or Urban Meyer. Or the same players. Never have, never will. What we DO have is a coaching staff that demands more of themselves and student athletes. We DIDN’T have that two years ago.

          • Are you talking to me? I think I said I’d be happy with six wins and I don’t think I ever made any comments about “passing their way out of the box”. I was basically saying I don’t think Sonny Dykes is that great of a coach. GA is a very good coach.

          • I wrote the first quote; you’re right it could have been 1-2 wins with worse luck and less adjustments by the coaching staff. I like this staff now, much better than what we had; I was doubtful the first year and first half of this season. Hopefully he qb picture is better evaluated next year.

  37. Wonder if the ducks would try Rich Rod?
    He got Arizona to the Pac12 championship. This year was an anomoly due to key injuries. I could see Arizona and him parting ways because of fan pressure, and he might be the best option available to oregon.

  38. Personally I would not be satisfied with merely 6 wins and barely bowl eligible next year. True improvement would net at least 8wins, which is my basement for acceptability next year. This season there were 6 games that we could have won. That’s a 10 win season:

  39. Interesting that some of our coaches are headed to Seattle today as part of their recruiting road trip. Nobody up there that we’ve really seen connected to OSU in this class, although Foster Sarell and Connor Weddington are up there.
    I actually think we have been recruiting Weddinton all along, although it’s beem quiet, and Sarell is a can’t miss guy who you have to try at least.
    Or maybe seattle is just for a connecting flight. Hmmm…

  40. Thought the defense played average but good in key points of the game. I saw some key stops on 3rd down, where Banker’s D would have folded. Also, the tackles for loss in first down were huge and set the tone for the rest of the defensive series. These are good signs going forward.

  41. Thank god for the CW win. @ angry. Fifth year senior Mitch put on a show for the ages in the second half in the battle for the Axe. Started with a ten point lead and a pick in the endzone.
    #acidreflux.
    12 – Consecutive passes thrown by Minnesota quarterback Mitch Leidner that were either incomplete or intercepted in the third and fourth quarters. Two picks in nineteen seconds!

    • Took Riley 20 years to figure out Reed is a waste of 250k, though he probably just wanted to make his bud rich off State funds. Teet suckin’ Riley — he should move to Omaha with the ultimate teet sucker.

      • Unfortunately, Riley was allowed to get away with it at OSU because of the low expectations from the administration, some of geriatric donor and fan base and the media.. We all warned him that this bullshit wasn’t going to play at Nebraska. Riley was hired to win division and conference titles and be in the playoff discussion immediately.. Banker will be next year, unless it’s Riley himself.

        • It’s very possible Riley is gone next year. I thought 3 years, so I’m sticking with that. He’ll have to break in a new QB and many other positions. They won’t be very good unless that QB is a unique talent. Let’s say they win 6 games. Likely given how weak that conference is. Will he be canned? Probably. Though, I bet some apologists will say he was breaking in so many new players, yada yada. It will be interesting to see which faction’s voice wins out. I like Riley at Nebraska because it gives me a 2nd game to watch on Saturday’s.

          • The continued blow out losses in important games are what is really pissing off Nebraska fans. It was Pelini’s MO and it reared it’s ugly head again this season. With Nebraska’s facilities and tradition, they can get 9 wins almost any year in the Big 10 West, but Riley can’t lose by 30 to Iowa in a game that mattered at the start of the day. Really, they just should have given Solich a second chance or got him to rehab.

          • “I like Riley at Nebraska because it gives me another game to watch on Saturdays”

            Same. I have family in Nebraska and visited for the first time a couple of years ago. Nebraska Football is huge there. Not much else going on. Now that Riley is there it makes games that much more interesting.

            I am greatful that he revived OSU football. But the game passed him by. He’s tired and should retire. I am watching all the same tendencies that we saw with His coaching at OSU. Like Jack says its PTSD trying to root for Nebraska.

            I would like for him do well there and it’s sad to watch the demise.

            On a more positive note the future of OSU football looks bright with Andersen.

          • Oh, well I want him to fail at Nebraska, because he set expectations low at OSU just so he could meet them. He’s a man of excuses and lowering expectations. He really did OSU a disservice after 2009. That Civil War was the end. He stuck around 5 more years and ran the program into the ground while making excuses that the media ran with, and are now getting blown up by GA. Fuck him

          • I don’t think he consciously ran the program into the ground. It was more that he got too comfortable and thought he could do the same thing he always had done and still be successful. He relied too much on his system and a couple talented players. Aside from the fly sweep there was no new innovation in five plus years. Personally I don’t wish for anyone to fail. Ducks being the exception.

      • In all seriousness, Riley had to have understood that going into the job, right? 3 or 4 losses in Lincoln is average.

        I know it’s a little out there, but he and his cronies are not getting any younger, it had to be a financial play that was hard to pass up also.

        • “In all seriousness, Riley had to have understood that going into the job, right? 3 or 4 losses in Lincoln is average.”

          Let’s ask Bo Pelini or Frank Solich about that. Guaranteed they’d look past their shortcomings for a national championship. 9-3 isn’t good enough for children of the corn. Delusional fan base indeed.

          Tom Osborne isn’t coming back. Riley made his own bed. Here and there. Fuck him. Enjoy it. He deserves it for a fitting end to his career

  42. I admit that I could’nt help but check out Nebraska games and post game chatter when I could but not so much with BYU. I see BYU is 8-4 playing with (mostly)Mendenhall’s players (mostly grown men) against what looks on paper like a pretty robust schedule.
    So my question is: given the state of each program that each coach inherited, how would you compare/grade Sitake, Riley and Andersen’s seasons? Just curious what you fellows think.

    • I haven’t watched one BYU game. Sitake was overrated everywhere I saw him, though. GA spoke highly of him, so I’m open to being wrong, but I’m going by what I saw.

      I’d rather have Sitake over Riley for sure, so BYU is in better shape.

        • BYU/Nebraska? I don’t think it matches with the tie-ins. I did see Nebraska/Utah as a possible projection, which would be the “Delusional Fan Base Bowl”

        • Interesting question. I would watch for sure. Any word on the mission kids from the first Andersen recruits? I had seen the same question earlier this week but did not see any answer. Hoping they do not all chase Sitake to Provo. I have Folau and Kotoa in mind specifically.

          • Mission kids from Andersen’s first OSU class (2015) are still on their missions, so not much is known about them (Folau, Katoa, Sharpe)
            Folau was seen at BYU’s spring game this past year though, so that would indicate at least sime interest in BYU.

            Ula Tolutau was a Wisconsin 2014 commit, and sounds like he’s down to BYU/Utah, although a recent Deseret News story said he’s still considering OSU and Utah State visits. I wouldnt count on it.

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