25.Nov.2016 Hoops: Fresno State/General Thread

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Go Beavs?

Over/under 30 turnovers.

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  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    I don’t want to be first…………

  • angry angry says:
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    Looking better so far.
    Man Stacy stinks…

    • Feathersedge says:
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      what’s up with the strategy with the Mississippi game. Beavers down by 20 + points yet the guards are walking the ball up the court. what a slow lazy game they played & the turnovers horrible.

  • angry angry says:
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    6 turnovers at the 10 minute mark. Yikes.

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    This is hard to watch. Stacy is abysmal, I would like to apologize for everything negative I ever said about Duvivier.

  • BeaverDynasty says:
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    Word out at Nike is there is a highly secret Oregon State uniform redesign about halfway complete. Tightening down certain elements. Expect the 85 or so percent who think the 2010 Giant Killer take to be the best OSU has ever worn to be pleased as core elements of that popular version are said to be incorporated with subtle but tangible modifications that give a firm impression Oregon State Football under Andersen is burgeoning on a new dynasty in the Beaver State.

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      Pics or it isn’t happening……

    • angry angry says:
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      Was the Giant Killer uniform really 2010? Holy shit time flies.

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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      Also, word out of Nike is Phil Knight is now a huge OSU fan amd has disowned Oregon football, frustrated with their lack of finishing the job.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      I love the smell of tartan in the… well… at 11:18 pm.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      So highly secret you were able to post about it here? Did your source fly a beetle drone into the nike complex and get video? Why the secrecy when so few consumers care? Nike doesn’t want all the current OSU product to get sent to the salvation army?

      Nike is probably redesigning everyone’s uniforms, so your source probably has some accuracy…

  • angry angry says:
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    Why did I make a post for this game?

    Obviously go off topic.

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      Once more, props to wannabeav for finding the Big Red OverReaction radio show. Schadenfreude at its best!

      As posted on that thread, the final caller seriously said he thinks Riley is smart and is hesitant to improve too quickly! Says he thinks the plan is for Langs to take over when Riley retires and they want room for Langs to show further improvement. The guy sounded serious!! Hosts had no time to reply as program ended there.

      BTW, my mild post on the Husker board is over a half hour old and no response (other than 1 downvote) yet.

  • Afghanbeav Afghanbeav says:
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    What in the hell happened to the BB team?

  • Afghanbeav Afghanbeav says:
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    Of course the year we don’t play Arizona state they are hot trash. Getting absolutely railroaded by Arizona in the territorial cup.

  • ChrisOSAlum ChrisOSAlum says:
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    Arizona up 14-7 on ASU!?

    Hideous uniforms on both sides. But I don’t care much about uniforms.

    22-7 now. What’s happening?

    • Afghanbeav Afghanbeav says:
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      28-7 Wild Kittens over Forky

    • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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      Who thought Adidas would be better than Phil’s trash unis, ’cause these ASSU threads are butt f-in ugly.

  • angry angry says:
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    Someone just yelled, “You are awful” when Stacy made a basket. Lol

  • scotty says:
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    The thought is creeping into my head that the difference between Robinson and Tinkle is GP2. Make it stop!

    • Beavlover69 says:
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      This isn’t all that surprising. We were a fringe tourney team last year and lost some pretty important guys. I don’t think we would even have offered Stacy a scholarship if Bruce didn’t flunk out

      • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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        Team is young too.

      • ian12171@comcast.net says:
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        I agree.. don’t have any senior leaders like last season.. shows you how important that is.. how much difference would Thompson Jr or Kone make?

        • mckalk mckalk says:
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          They better make some difference or it’s going to be a long, long season.

    • mckalk mckalk says:
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      Here’s the other piece of your thought………GP2 was a CR recruit, right? Just sayin’.

      • mckalk mckalk says:
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        What’s with the down vote? That’s a fact, right? One of WT’s JC recruits is flunking out of school and the other looks clueless.

        • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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          So you’re saying you’d prefer CR over WT? Yeah, no thanks. Good recruiter (as is WT) but terrible coach and no–all fresh and soph players as a fall back.

          • mckalk mckalk says:
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            Not at all, just sayin’ it looks like big misses with the two JC recruits WT recruited for this season.

        • I like carrots alot says:
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          Votes don’t matter, the electoral college will decide your post’s fate. Unless you want a recount

  • ChrisOSAlum ChrisOSAlum says:
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    28- 7 Arizona.

    Dawkins goes out of bounds and LAnds on Miss Arizona.

    Hilarious.

  • ChrisOSAlum ChrisOSAlum says:
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    False start is a rediculous call. The defense can stunt and move but the offense flinches and five yards. It’s a joke. I say incidental movement as long as you don’t cross the line.

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      You want ridiculous? How about this business of targeting resulting in expulsion?

      I rather see targeting redefined and “spearing” added to the list, make what is now often called targeting a 15 yd penalty and use expulsion for spearing. But, that would take judgement on the part of the zebras.

      Spearing would be blatant, intentional, and involving helmet to helmet.

      • ChrisOSAlum ChrisOSAlum says:
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        Agreed. If I’m a smart quarterback I bait the defense into a targeting call by sliding at the last second. I don’t know why more quarterbacks don’t do that.

    • Bill says:
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      The refs are calling because the defense is yelling and it’s very similar to the cadence. You can shift all you want but you can’t say hike with it every time.

  • Afghanbeav Afghanbeav says:
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    Speaking of shit head ASU players, just saw on ESPN that Burfict got fined 12k for shooting double freedom rockets at the fans in the stands at his last game. What a fucking meat head.

  • Theboneyard says:
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    We suck.

  • Pummel Course says:
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    ROTFLMAO!!!! This team is a straight up dumpster fire!!! LOLOLOL

    • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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      The team pumping yo momma? Yeah. She sure seems like she’s used to more experienced dudes.

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      Thanks for watching the game. What do you think the beavs should improve on?

    • AfghanBeav AfghanBeav says:
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      I know someone on here is able to pull ip addresses I’ve seen them do it before, I think it as jack. Jack is it the same troll each week using new names, or do random people just drop in during their teams game week to troll?

      • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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        I don’t think it’s jack, I don’t think he could troll by only posting once…….it would be several……..in a row…with terrible music added.
        Or here’s a question, normal jack posts terrible music. Would a troll jack post good music?

        • AfghanBeav AfghanBeav says:
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          Oh I didn’t mean Jack was the troll, I meant I thought Jack was the guy computer savvy enough to pull people’s ip/personal info.

          I thought I’d seen him dox someone here before.

          • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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            Oh…………well, the music thing still stands. Lol

          • Jack Jack says:
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            I peg poser trolls with their use of idiosyncratic language. You have to be a stalker and a pervert just to get in the mindset for doxxing someone. And even then, you can’t trust that you’re doxxing the right person anyway.

            It happened to me once years ago, but it wasn’t me. I used a lot of hot spots, some common. I still do sometimes because the down/up is usually faster than a sat link… and it’s not my data usage being counted. Someone posted a pic of a friend of mine working on his laptop and gave his address to some unseemly trolls… thinking it was me they were targeting.

            There were two incidents in recent years where police had to be involved (not related to this site). In one of the investigations, there was someone up in the Seattle area (from this site) who pinged another of my friends. But nothing came of that, and it was unrelated to the hacks.

            Worms can be expensive.

  • AfghanBeav AfghanBeav says:
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    Speaking of dumpster fires, Zona in the process of Cougin their lead away. 28-21 now.

  • ChrisOSAlum ChrisOSAlum says:
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    35-28 Zona.

    Entertaining game.

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    Does anybody in Nebraska or Arizona know how to tackle?

  • Bill says:
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    Recap of the bball game. I went. Gill is looking good. Has that old school feel. Huge plus that they went with all black lower bowl.

    Onto the game,
    Defense is there. Can’t really stop a guy hitting threes from 25 ft.

    Why they lost and will continue to lose,
    1. Talent. They don’t have enough. I underestimated the loss of Bruce and duvivier. They had much better handles than the current guys. Stacy is basically useless.
    2. Because of the loss, that means sanders and Muller and playing minutes they weren’t supposed to get.
    3. Guys stretch too far out of the zone defense creating space for the opponents.
    4. McLoughlin still needs to step up the focus and intensity. Saw a glimpse of it at the end of the game. Ridiculous that he himself got a 10 second call.
    5.i don’t see guys deferring to tres. They just lack confidence and maybe rightly so after Muller bricked one off the side of the backboard.

    After seeing them in person, they won’t win more than 5 games in conference. Any postseason is out of the question.

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      Your not the guy that yelled “you are awful” at Stacy are you?

      • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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        In fairness to Bill, or ‘whoever,’ Stacy IS awful.

        • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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          True, I just think it would be funny if it was him.

        • angry angry says:
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          He’s beyond awful. There’s no word for how bad a player he is.
          And this is versus weak competition…
          Huge miss by WT.

          • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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            Yeah. May be time to sit that kid and forget it ever happened, at least until next year and see if he has figured things out then.

    • cj cj says:
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      I was at the game, too. Everything Bill says I agree with except I say, instead of lacking confidence, they lack heart.

      Standing around a lot waiting for something … but couldn’t seem to figure out what. Stacy is really unsure of himself, although at the end of the game he did drive to the basket a couple times and even made one.

      McL needs to drive more also. Don’t wait ’til the game is almost over, start in the first qtr.

  • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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    RichRod still seems like a lunatic.

  • Fidel Castro says:
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    Hey comrades. I’m dead.
    Just stopping by to say Go Beavs tomorrow. I never liked that Capitalist Pig, Phil Knight.

    • Our b-ball tourney hopes says:
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      ‘Sup, we’re dead too. Stopping by to say FTD and we never liked Knight or TTATT either.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Liar.

      The only difference between you and Phil Knight is that he could trade and sell goods with the United States… thus taking advantage of his captive labor.

      I’m pretty sure Alberto Salazar said as much in his book… well… I may be reading between some lines of fuzzy memory.

      I’m not surprised a sentence with Phil Knight in it is red baiting, though.

      • Jack Jack says:
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        Maybe you’d have better luck talking about President Ondimba instead?

  • cj cj says:
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    Go Beavs! Beat the quacks soundly tomorrow!

  • angry angry says:
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    I have a game thread scheduled for 12:15 tomorrow. If it doesn’t post for any reason, someone email me to remind me. Think we’re going to be happy tomorrow with a win and some commits.

    • Doozeldorf says:
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      It’s so weird. It’s been so long since we last beat the Ducks that I can’t even imagine what that looks like. It’s hard for me to believe we can actually win, even though this is our best chance in a long time. Certainly there are no players on the team who know what it’s like to beat the Ducks. Is there anyone on our coaching staff who has beaten the Ducks?

      • ObjCritic says:
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        It last looked like sport bras.

        Lets hope the come up with something better today. I’m guessing they do the 1942 rose bowl helmet and black uniform today…which seems to detract from the “tribute” nature and goal of the uniform but maybe the players really like them.

        https://youtu.be/-XtHXXXbTzk

      • WFO WFO says:
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        Brennan?

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Back to the Big Red……
    My older bro still bitching and moping several hours after the game…..hehe. He was still pissed about their volleyball team losing here to my Gophers. I told him earlier in the day I thought Iowa would win by a couple of touch downs. I was wrong!!!!! Regarding the five yard punt,”have you ever seen anything that bad?” Me, “yup, Bruce Read special.”
    The incredible thing is my brother thinks Armstrong is a big part of the problem, when he has been the saving grace due to his running ability. Wait till next year and human statues…..that
    throw picks.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      Denial. Not just a river in Eqypt. Many here were guilty of the same thoughts (some still will still lick the Riley ball sweat. Looking at you Goe!)

      RiLLLLey WILL NEVER win a B1G title. It’s possible he may get them to the title game as he only has to compete really with maybe Iowa and Wisky in their division. But he doesn’t have the ability to come up with a gameplan to beat a Harbs or the Urb. Suck it Nebby. Your AD wanted him and paid OSU 500K to get him. Suckers!!! Not our fucking problem anymore.

    • angry angry says:
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      Exactly, Armstrong has been their best player and single-handedly bailed Riley out of 2 or 3 more losses.

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Ed O hired at LSU.
    FTD and F Wisconsin.

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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      Weird, thought i read Herman to LSU was a done deal yesterday. Hope Texas takes him, so Oregon can’t.

      • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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        Claiming he was playing them against one another for more money. Strong is now a goner.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        Strong fired this morning. It appears they weren’t going to wait around or get in a bidding war with Texas for Herman. I did read an article last night that mentioned that Herman and PK met last weekend and they hit it off. Bromance???? I have no idea if that is truth or rumor

        “Sources close to the situation said LSU interim coach Ed Orgeron would likely be the frontrunner for the Tigers’ head-coaching job if Herman was pulled away by either Texas or Oregon. Sources said Oregon mega-booster Phil Knight met with Herman last weekend and the two really hit it off. Current Ducks’ coach Mark Helfrich is 4-7 heading into Saturday’s season finale against Oregon State.”

        http://fanbuzz.com/story/report-a-third-team-could-get-in-on-the-tom-herman-sweepstakes/

        • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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          So, assuming Oregon fires Helf, rather than moving him back to OC. Who here would be open to the idea of OSU moving McGiven back to full time QB coach, and hiring Helf as OC? With Oregon footing the bill through 2019?

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          That must be nice for Helfrich to hear. I realize Helfrich has a buyout and is set for the future, but I still imagine that today he is self-conscious and wondering how Knight and whathisname are judging his coaching performance during the game.

        • mckalk mckalk says:
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          I guess Herman is a good coach, but everytime I watched Houston this year they were giving up a ton of points and losing. Other coaches have done nice things at Houston, they don’t play in a tough league.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Was talking to my old man last night (Duck grad) and said that if Herman winds up at Texas, Helf gets fired and Nebby decides to cut bait with Simple Jack that just maybe he winds up in Eugene. He muttered one word. Mutiny

    It won’t happen but it sure is fun to plant the seed

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    LOL. Brother wakes up and starts bitching about the special teams coach and how they better fire him or MR will get fired. Good luck with that. #rileycrony.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Does your brother believe unicorns exist too?

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Notice Pierce is averaging 5 ypc, but long run is 22 yards. I think he’s due today for some longer runs against a bad Duck D.

  • Theboneyard says:
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    Are the Beavs wearing gray helmets today?

  • ObjCritic says:
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    FWIW, OSU and UO recruiting classes ranked 27th and 26th by Rivals and Nebraska at #24. Yes, OSU is bringing in a bigger class, but its interesting to see the gap closing – even with no airport.

    “From 2011-2016, the Ducks’ recruiting classes have finished 9, 16, 22, 23, 17 and 28 in the country according to Rivals, while the Beavers have placed at 58, 40, 38, 50, 59 and 40. ”

    http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2016/11/recruiting_class_rankings_oreg.html#incart_river_index

    Great day to host recruits with a finally sold out Reser, great job by Andersen and staff to get them here for today’s game.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    There you go. Grey helmets with orange beaver logo.

    I dont care for the logo, but not terrible.

    https://twitter.com/BeaverAthletics/status/802591723486474240

  • BeaverBill^ BeaverBill^ says:
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    Someone above posted no heart in our MBB team. I think it is more young ones a little out of their league right now. WT has team playing good defense. He just needs to teach them how to shoot, rebound on the offense, and attach on offense. Tres is the only one out there playing maturely. Eubanks looks good and has a mean streak in him. They needs Thompson and Kone back.

    • angry angry says:
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      They’ll be fine once Thompson returns. He’ll play point and Stacy will ride the pine. Kone will help, too.

      • mckalk mckalk says:
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        It feels like they need one more power forward since WT missed on Dew. They seem like the Brent Barry Beavers currently with one great player in Tres and an inconsistent group around him. Eubanks dominates weak competion, but is easily neutralized against mature experienced inside players.

    • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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      You forgot the terrible passing/ball handling, are they going for a record number of turnovers this year?

  • angry angry says:
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    Not sure if this was ever posted, but an article on Luton with some “scout” analysis of him.
    https://oregonstate.rivals.com/news/commitment-analysis-jake-luton

    • mckalk mckalk says:
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      They kind of said what you mentioned awhile back about the interceptions and passing percentage being a concern against that level of competion. Travis Wilson is a decent comparison, but Wilson had a bizarre throwing motion. Luton looks pretty good on that three step he takes.

      • angry angry says:
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        The idea he might be forcing passes because of a big arm has merit. I wonder if it’s true. I guess we’ll find out in a few months.

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    One thing that has me rolling my eyes is the crap in the papers about the rivalry being “meaningful” to the Ducks once again. Sure now that they are shitty. I get it, Helfich has to grasp at every straw out there at this point.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Not sure why my observation regarding the game was deleted but since we’re now on to another thread and the football game I’m putting it back in.

    Pee-FUCKING-Ew

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