Tomorrow. Should be a good day.
Paul Lucas to transfer.
IMO – This is further justification that a new OC needs to be brought in. Under utilization of some players and over utilization of others. PLUS piss-poor decision making re which QB gets the playing time.
In Andersen I trust but I must admit, sometimes I wonder………….
So you’re saying they underutilized a guy who can run fast in a straight line but isn’t very good at football?
No, I was thinking of Mr. Cook as an example.
And take carries away from me?
@ Ryan Nall: In an effort to keep you healthy and when necessary, to heal. And then there’s keeping you fresh and not wearing you out.
Lucas would have transferred regardless of who came in as OC. He had been unhappy pretty much since he got here.
Do you have inside info?
With Lucas transferring, Beavs need need to sign a Juco RB as well. Nall and Pierce both were injured this year.
Lucas was more of a scat back than a true rb. I thought he still had some upside.
Scat backs are fast and shifty, he was neither.
Anus Olomon is a scat back
I remember Andersen saying something about how he needs to learn to take care of his body to be able to stay healthy and compete at this level.
Is taylor thomas a lost cause at this point?
We don’t want Taylor Thomas. I am guessing GA will be targeting a JC running back.
Why would we no longer want Thomas? Any specific reason?
Would have been nice to hold onto Miller.
Coaches parted ways with him. He is barely getting any attention from D1 schools now. His academics have been his downfall.
I don’t think we need another jc rb nall is going to be junior we just need depth.
Thomas has moved on and he had 241 yards total rushing as a JC guy. Academic liability who is a headcase.
I don’t think you want your depth to be a young guy who is learning the game and needs to pack on 20 pounds. If there is a guy who is ready, then sure.
Anyone know anything about jordan carty? OT that is warm on us according to 247.
Looks like we are his only visit so far.
When do we hear about Cook’s potential medical for another year of eligibility? That would take care of RB depth unless Green is an early contributor.
Someone in the last thread said it was denied.
That decision won’t be made until somewhere around March or April.
Possible new RB target for 2017?
What makes you think that?
Vince Guinta just started following him a couple days ago, just before Isaiah Miller announced his decommit. If he follows a guy, we’ve offered or are about to offer. If he unfollows a guy, we’re probably not getting him. (Jaylon Lane for example)
Here’s another RB Guinta just started following.
“Lemons Tightens Up Beavers Run Game.”
“Lemons squeezes through the gap! He’s at the 50! The 40! He’s gonna go!”
“He sure showed some juice on that play!’
“When recruiting gives you Lemons, make Lemonsade! A refreshing change of pace back with some sweet moves!”
So a little bird who knows people connected to the new rivals (beaversedge) site told me something funny. I guess rivals uses a 3rd part chat program to run their tuesday night chat sessions. Mama used the same program back when it was beaverblitz. Rivals paid the fee, whatever it was.
Well, i guess after she left blitz, she continued to run her chats through the same program, as rivals never cancelled her account. So she was letting rivals pay the bill for blitz/scout.
Then, last week, she was cut off by rivals. This week she needs to find a new program for the scout/blitz chat session, so subscirbers are being told the reason for the chat program change is because a number of users were complaining about the old program. But in reality, rivals just figured out finally that they were footing the bill for scout and gave her the boot.
Finances must really be tight at scout
Couldn’t that be construed as “theft of services”? Using a service that you didn’t pay for???
Not a lawyer nor versed in law, didn’t stay at a holiday inn express last night
Either way if true that’s kind of a scheister thing to do.
That sounds like something a “cheesy weasel” would do!
I think it’s more laziness or maybe complacency than anything. But it makes me wonder if she was actually forced out at Rivals rather than leaving on her own for a “better opportunity” or whatever.
That’s so sad.
More deception and lies from Mamma Machado. Called out her character and personality years ago, and now we’re seeing it (seemingly) daily.
A.M. is a piece of work. Her shady tactics need to catch up with her at some point.
I’d rather just not give Blitzers a platform here, good or bad.
Bummer i just found out that cole committed to miss st yesterday. Would’ve been a nice pixk up. Hopefully landry payne can step up next year.
Beavergopher, what the hell is going on in Minnesota?
bet the house on the Cougs to roll them in their bowl game
I will give my take when a have a few hours free!
Tomorrow to me feels like it will be:
Evans, Moore, Luton, Hodgins, Taylor and maybe Davis signing.
I dont see us getting Lane. Cole chose Miss St yesterday, Miller flipped to Missouri.
Biggest question mark for me is Agasiva.
So, I’m expecting 5 to 7 early enrollee commits, with Davis and Agasiva being the two biggest unknowns ay this point.
After that, maybe a Deonte Fortenberry or Vosean Crumbie could be some surprise names that weren’t mentioned much in recent weeks, now that we seems to have struck out with Nixon and Lane.
Around noon today I saw an article posted on Google from Beaverblitz discussing how Agasiva choose the Beavs. I was like what?? Maybe it was a mistake or something they but posted today when it’s meant for tomorrow… I agree that I think Lane is out after commiting to us. Who commits then a few weeks later wants to hold a ceremony to choose between us and Texas Tech….
Interesting about the Agasiva post and retraction. Not sure it means anything more than they just have a story written already for each scenario, and some dumbass hit post accidentally.
I think it was just a possible story they wrote like a what if. I agree with you in this case.
Nemec says Justin Sattelmaier is “as solid as ever”.
He adds that Agasiva plans to announce later in the week, so no news about him is likely on Wednesday.
I agree that Sattelmaier will be a Beav, but i didnt think he could commit early. I might be wrong on the early vs late thing, but since he is originally a 4 year player (Western Oregon), I dont think he is eligible for early signing, despite coming from a juco. I think he needs to wait for February.
Either way, i think he’ll be a beav. That’s just the reason i left him off my earlier post
Think he needs to officially get his associate degree before he can transfer. That wont happen till he finishes his 2nd year of college.
To clarify, he can sign now but can’t enroll until he can transfer officially. So it’s more a matter of being counted in the 2017 class, as opposed to 2016 if he were able to enroll for winter term.
Beavs just offered Vosean Crumbie. Teammate of OSU QB commit Jake Luton at Ventura Community College. Plays CB. Beavs hedging bets in case Lane goes with Texas Tech. Adding secondary depth is a need.
Pretty sure Lane is a goner. Wouldnt be surprised if this guy is next in line after crumbie.
“Sun Devils fans are going to be seeing more maroon and gold and less black and gray, marking a shift from what’s become a trend — thanks in large part to Oregon’s 21st-century fashion decisions — across college football.”
Way to go ducks. Trend setters you are. More costume changes than Liberace. Just because you look good (so you think) doesn’t make you play better. I applaud ASU and hope others follow suit.
Article also states, “Arizona State adopted its pitchfork logo in 2011…”
Hmmmmm……..pitchfork? Where’s Jack?
Maybe it’s because they’re landlocked and don’t have rolling fields of hay?
So they don’t have any real world experience with gigs or forks. If only they had some other source which they could use to know what they were doing.
Maybe it’s not intentional? I’ll accept that it’s a gaff.
Yeah, that’s it, a gaff.
I’ll be here all week.
So they are sticking a pitchfork into uniform changes?
Uniforms should be school colors. What a concept.
But look what Nike did. They used the Ducks as paper dolls, got lots of attention for it, then their uniform concepts swept across the NCAA and then into the NFL with silly “color rush” uniforms. Good for the brand!
This is kind of fucked up if true.
Anyone following Mike Parker around? He is a duck after all. 😉
Wait that’s what Parker was doing in that restaurant. Eating napkins with Rileys secret plays writen on them because he thought he was caught.
I always thought he was getting rid of Bellotti’s AD contract.
Funniest post in a long time around here!
Good for the high school guys signing early. They will count against LY’s class. Beavs need more depth with all the injuries.
Does anyone know what the current scholarship count is right now?
Somebody on another site keeps track, if I remember correctly it was at 63 after Garret Owens announced he was leaving. Lucas leaves, that makes 62. Was there another I missed? (I still think Villamin is leaving.)
Evans signs with beavs. That’s good.
Keep him away from weed GA.
Is Evans an early signer or a February guy?
Early, he’s official now
Isn’t there enough talent at DT that Evans is going to have to really compete, or is the talent there lacking that much?
I thought there were some injury recovery issues (Tago) and youth (Aydon), but looking at the roster it looks like there’s some D1 beef there in the 300 lb range and I expect them all to be better under Clune’s D and stronger after another offseason of training.
I hope so. Having that kind of depth would be great.
Aside from Aydon, I don’t see any others that will jump Evans for playing time. He was set to be in the mix to start on a very good D at MSU.
Per an article about Evans leaving MSU, “Evans, though, looked to be a big asset for Mark Dantonio and the Spartans this coming season as he probably would have made a push to become the starting defensive tackle. As a redshirt freshman in 2015, he recorded 21 total tackles and a sack and looked very impressive.”
Never talk like that again. It was the most obvious failure in Riley’s recruiting efforts. To be fair, the death of Thompson was devastating in that area. But that’s because he was the only real steady DT talent we were going to have during his college career. Imagine how much better players like Chricton, Grimble, Wynn and Peko would have been. Imagine Tago and Tui not getting Tuerked because there would have been a Fred from Oaktown to deal with instead. Imagine our O-line getting constantly better because they have to deal with that in practice every day.
Now imagine having to deal with two of those type of DTs. Imagine more of them.
I’m surprised we don’t have more D-line types wanting to sign on to play with Elu. The sheer havoc he wreaks in the middle is going to reward every other D-lineman he plays with for the next couple years.
Wonder if GA will continue to coach the DL. Seems like a “neat deal” for guys who play those positions.
That’s physical position, and they rotate 8 guys when everybody is healthy. So having somebody of his caliber to come and even be in the rotation is a huge lift. It will help us from wearing down in the fourth quarter which we saw all last year.
Isn’t there enough talent at DT?
There can never be enough at each position. You want tons of competition at each position so the best player emerges.
I understand you can’t have too much there. My question was more about whether or not Evans could just walk in and start or if the existing players outside of Aydon were going to make it a competitive challenge for Evans to get playing time. Depth and competition are always preferred and necessary.
… and so “next man up” actually means something other than yanking redshirts.
Or yanking something else…
Very happy to see Luton signed. I hope his rather rapid growth as a passer continues and he adjusts to the competition level.
… hopefully not Pancake Jake… or hopefully yes for good reasons?
He could join my 6 year old in the Rattlesnake Jake club.
Sattelmaier is in, here’s hoping for Agasiva. Need as much OL beef as possible.
Where’s the beef???
Chip Kelly ate it.
Great. Listed at 6’7″, 300-305?
Like the progress being made today and look forward to the evals of these early signers.
Will there be a thread with evaluations of these early signers, or will that thread be saved for February when all other commitments are in?
Sucks about Miller. Wonder if Kyle White switches back to RB. I bet Lockette has a few names in mind already to fill the void, hope he sticks around forever *knocks on wood*
Is Katoa back from his mission?
It opens up space for Ula Tolutau to come in and get reps.
Good point. Been pretty quiet with him. Havent heard anything more about a possible visit since that Deseret News piece a few weeks back
I’ve heard he’s going to sign somewhere at the end of the week. And nobody seems to know where he’s going, except BYU fan thinks he’s a lock despite the silence.
Wonder if Kolby Taylor’s brother, Kerry, could be a potential WR coach candidate?
NFL experience as a player, has coached at the HS level since his NFL days ended. Has connections to the Chandler program. Plus the Taylor family is full of NFL talent with his dad Keith and Uncle John Taylor.
That’s a very creative thought, i like it!
Wouldn’t a major con be that he first needs to demonstrate a high level of administration on top of all the pros you list?
Looks like Moore is waiting to sign so we’ll have to wait on both him and agasiva. Bummer
Thise were the 2 main remaining guys I was hoping to hear about.
Also, noticed the other day that Oregon has one of their coaches following Jaylon Lane now. Would rather lose him to TTech than Oregon, if we do lose him.
Ya i definitely agree with that. I wonder if we get any surprise names come up.
Is Davis supposed to sign today?
I think Davis may flip to Arizona.
Big boys pants make him look fat?
to Kansas State. Too Bad!!!
True, but Bill Synder is a genius.
Just got to looking at this today, so Hodgins, Evans, Taylor, and Luton?
Did I miss some? Fill me in.
Evans is a huge get, pun semi-intended.
Edit: NM, looks like Sattelmaier as well. That should have me caught up.
Anyone know who this surprise signee could be?
My guess would be Agasiva, but since he listed us as a finalist I’m not sure that’s a big surprise. I’d classify a big surprise is a flip who wasn’t on anyone’s radar.
U may be right he just decommitted from wsu but he said it was unlikely he would sign today.
Yankoff is a high school Junior. Not signing
What about his sister, Ivana?
She’s a rower………very strong stroke and keeps a good rhythm.
The cream of the crop and a great finisher.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Yankoff pulls an offer from Oregon State. That name might be hanging around this message board for a little while.
Like Jack mentioned above, Ula would qualify as a surprise. Maybe Lucas moving on opened up that possibility again?
Still think he ends up at BYU.
Also, we havent heard anything final on Davis/Agasiva/Moore, so any of those could qualify as a surprise. Some are “big” too, but i wouldnt read much into that. Could just be a way to sell subscriptions. You cant tease an “average” surprise.
I think it’s just bait for more signups, typical Rivals move on a signing day.
It’s Billybob Clickbait, long snapper from Idaho.
Most likely it’s the Lane situation taking on a Terrence Jones/UW/Calipari look.
Espn on Sattelmaier:
“Smothers defenders in run game.”
Nice. Watched the film and that’s basically true, but his pass blocking isn’t so hot on tape. Needs to improve that.
Dick or Tommy Smothers?
LOL. Oops by OSU’s digital media department.
On this page about the early signees (http://static.osubeavers.com/custompages/17signingday/), the “Highlights” for Craig Evans are a link to some white skinny kid’s high school basketball highlights!
Needs to put on weight!
Forward it to Tinkle.
Recent-ish photo of Ula in BYU gear
… half of what you see?
OT… good for him. I hope he does well.
Also OT… Sydney Wiese having a career day in front of the kids right now.
Triple double……very nice
Wow, 10/12 FG, 6/7 3pt. Rueck says she has been holding back, pushing her teammates to step up.
Glad they fell out of top 25 this week, fire!
Maybe the men’s team should give her a look
Pretty damn efficient in 31 minutes:
What, only 1 steal?!?
Someone posted this on olive comment section. Might be a good sign that it was posted there.
KaraSanders from Twitter1h
Best of luck signing tonight to my guy @Jlane1400blk.. god is going to put you right where you need to be ?
Davis to KSU.
That’s too bad at least it wasn’t someone in conference.
Since the Angry folks were predicting/expecting up to 7 (or 8) to sign I was a bit surprised to see that Nemec was thinking the number could be as high as double digit.
Oregon State mid-year signing day preview: Beavers could reel in impressive, double-digit haul http://s.oregonlive.com/eZXfnbF
If I’m not mistaken the count is currently 5. Is this of concern?
These are the 5 I expected. A few other guys are on the fence and might sign soon.
Nemec was behind the times, not really factoring in the changes (e.g. Lucas leaving and depth chart).
Anyway, we landed two 4-star players today (Taylor would have also been a 4-star were it not for a broken leg). It’s a great day.
Cool. The only thing I’m wondering about is there are 3 OL leaving and only 1 OL that has signed.
They’re in the mix for several other Jucos, and the freshman preps look advanced for their age and ready to play if needed. Wouldn’t worry too much about it at this point.
Beavs have immediate playing time to sell so JUCOs will be interested.
Ya hopefully we’ll land at least one more of those jc guys. But we do have kearsley, yanni, lavaka,bradel,and lauina coming back.
Hodgins on the Joe Beaver show in 5 minutes:
Now it says he’ll be on 750am in portland next, with Canzano.
Parker just said he expects Hodgins to call in. Lol
Nobody knows what’s up.
Edit: He’s on Canzano’s now.
Since he won’t get to walk in the spring… congrats to him for graduating from HS.
GA interview in 10 minutes:
Here’s a new target.
Looks like we’re turning over stones looking for some more JC CB options now.
Is Christian Wallace officially a bust?
If so, we need DB help. If not, the depth is okay.
It was reported that he practiced with the team this year. Garcia was the one who didn’t show up, but it sounds like he will be here in the winter or spring term. Maybe I’m wrong…………?
That is the latest. Wallace will be fine.
What a disappointing day, leave it to Gary to lose 4 commits with in a month.
Your extreme sarcasm is duly noted.
Oregon hires Jim Leavitt as DC.
Imagine if we had signed him?
“Leavitt to Beavers”
I would have had fits about that. And anyone who thought Wagner should get canned but that this guy is eligible for hire would name themselves hypocrite.
Good with the Xs, though. And CU gives Nikegon false cover for allowing him to be in charge of young men.
Huh, all I can think is that he’s looking for another head coaching job in the future. Oregon is high profile enough to get his name mentioned for open positions.
Yup. Guy did wonders with CU and is a good coach. This is a good hire. Hopefully a short term one.
Don’t remember if he’s 3-4 or 4-3 guy?
Sounds like he did a good job at CU, with a team heavy on upperclassmen. Even so, must be good with X’s and O’s.
What about recruiting? Sure, Florida has a lot of talent in the state, but does him being from the same area as Taggart lessen the luster here?
Any way to take this as encouragement that Telly may not be targeted by Taggart?
I just looked up his picture because I wasn’t sure what he looked like……..I kind of want to punch him in the face….for no reason. He just looks like someone who needs to be punched.
Agree with oldbeav it was a senior laden D from what I remember. Not sure if he just lucked out or he’s that good. He had a good Head Coaching record, but also in a talent rich area.
Nemec on radio saying we’re back in consideration with Calvin. Like around top 2 or 3. Glad I dont have to make a living predicting this stuff
OT… back to the continuing saga now called Wakeyleaks…
Also OT… this sort of pisses me off. You make a principled stance on the right side of something…
… and then you follow it up the next day with a twitter post with a picture of something clearly written and clearly defying your obviously incorrect “interpretation” of something that needs no interpretation.
And then I have to shake my head that the journalist who poorly reports and blames the rumor mill for his demise is living in a glass house. How does a biased, knee-jerk reaction that is so wrong help in the fight against misinformation?
“The way I interpret it”
Lol, he should try again. Or better yet, just stop.
Lane chose TTech
Regarding Evans background and history with drug tests, GA had more to say than the expected “second chance” stuff. Paraphrased; his experience will help him be a positive influence on other players, and……I’ll be watching closely and will deal directly with him if there are problems
Perhaps there will be more on GA’s comment in the future, he is due on with Canzano tomorrow.
Also, GA seemed to indicate that he’d not be surprised to lose another Asst Coach soon.
EDIT, 6:30pm……..Gina reports more detail on GA’s remarks on both Evans and the possible loss of an Asst.
I hope it’s not Lockett.
My guess is Yray to follow Brennan. No intel. Just a hunch since he’s from that part of California.
Note to self:
Take Willamette, not Santiam to get to/from Bend.
hope they get it cleared by Friday
You sure thats santiam pass? Trip check shows it as being open in both directions.
Never mind there was an avalanche that occurred about an hour ago.
You don’t want to have your trucks rolled over on the Santiam…
Looks like we got some good gets in the 5 we got. But a little concerned we only got 5 out of 11 supposedly. Can anyone shed light on this?
You win some.
You lose some.
5 we signed: Evans, Sattlemaier, Hodgins, Taylor and Luton
3 that flipped: Isaiah Miller(Logjam at position?), Lane to TTech(closer to home?), and Davis to Kansas State (who knows why…)
2 that got away: Nixon to South Carolina, Cole to Miss State
2 up in the air: Moore and Agasiva haven’t decided yet. Agasiva decision could come as early as this weekend. Moore could take clear up to signing day now. Sounds like ASU is in the mix for Moore, plus other teams could jump into the mix at this point. The longer he waits, the worse I think it looks for OSU.
That’s 12. Anybody else you wanted to know about?
Can’t sign ’em all. Still a good haul, and Moore or Agasive(or both) would be a plus for sure.
Also wouldn’t be surprised if Crumbie now flips to us, or some other names pop up we haven’t heard about yet. Just because today was the JUCO/early signing day, doesn’t mean everybody has to sign today.
Agasiva would be great. I’m content with the 5. Good group. The WRs will both be beasts. It’s strange that we land two 4-stars today and people are complaining.
Gotta think we get Agasiva or Moore since we have immediate, essentially guaranteed playing time.
I’m most disappointed by Cole. He’s a next level player imo.
My thoughts exactly. How can we be bummed on a day when we land two 4* guys (3 really, if you count Taylor who should have been, but had to sit out his senior year due to injury)
Then, we still have a decent shot at landing one more 3*/4* O lineman.
How many classes did it take us to bring in our last three 4* guys? (not counting Shurod Thompson either) I think that’s going clear back to the Seumalo class. Today we get 3 in a single day.
It was a great day, and now we don’t have to worry about any of those 5 guys getting poached during January.
Taylor is a steal if he’s healthy. He is mature and runs precise routes.
Hopefully he’s fully healed.
Oh you boys are making me feel a lot better!
Other teams are out there recruiting their needs.
Or what Jack said.
Almost 50/50 flip a coin for the entire group. That’s pretty good.
OT but it looks like Scott Barnes is going to be the new AD. I’m a fan of this hire.
Wasn’t he the first name we heard months ago?
I liked it at the time too. Just surprised no other names have surfaced.
Where did you read this?
Why are you a fan of the hire?
I know nothing about him. His face looks shitty, like he’s a dickhead who will run programs into the ground. But, I know, don’t judge a book yada yada
He’s worked with GA before so I’m assuming his input was positive. He’s chairman of the NCAA basketball selection committee. He’s from Spokane so he understands the region and I would assume wants to stay in the area. I’m not sure if he was involved in hiring Pat Narduzzi at Pitt but I think that was a good hire. He has also worked his way up from some fairly low beginnings (AD at Humboldt State).
He has also had a fairly long tenure wherever he’s been besides Pitt. I’d assume that has more to do with location than anything.
His face isn’t as punchable as Leavitt’s…..
Well, i guess it’s a good thing our avatar’s aren’t our photos.
Looks like a good hire. Pitt fans will be pissed.
So about the CB position:
Am I missing something, or does it really not seem like an area of need?
Obviously you can never have too many solid CBs, and Decoud was a really good player. But Crawford and Williams seem pretty solid, and Christian is (hopefully?) in the mix. Then there are a few young players that look potentially interesting (Irvine, Wilson) and Hill who seemed servicable last year rounding out depth.
Why are we targeting JC corners? Does this suggest that the young players (Christian, Irvine, Wilson) have not impressed?
I’ve thought that same way about both CB’s and WR’s; seems to me OL and (to a slightly lesser extent) DL are really the areas where the Beavs need more qualified body’s. But it does come down to what is available.
We definitely will have a ton of bodies at the WR position, but that makes more sense to me as that group really underperformed last year. I think GA is looking for a complete overhaul, and the incumbents will need to step up ASAP or get out of the way.
For all of Bolden’s faults, he was the only guy on the team consistently getting open. Collins was decent but also inconsistent – hoping to see some big improvement there in his 2nd full year as a WR. Hernandez was OK but definitely an auxiliary option and not a primary receiver. JV and Jarmon were total no-shows….probably out of the picture unless they make huge strides this offseason.
Bradford was interesting and seemed to look good whenever he had the opportunity. I think the depth chart will look something like:
6 WRs for 3-4 starting slots- sounds about right.
Xavier Hawkins was also in the no show category last year.
Time to talk to the 3rd/4th string WR about flipping to the defense.
Collins likely to take a redshirt year. If you saw him after he got out of the hospital, he was looking pretty bad. It’s going to be a while before he gets back into playing shape.
Is this being reported or are you making a prediction?
Let’s remember we don’t have all the knowledge the staff does. There could be some attrition that we don’t know about, and he knows they will need somebody there. Maybe Williams injury is more serious (I mean he only played in 3 or 4 games). Or, it might have something to do with the depth, some of the guys like Hicks-Onu for example have been slow to find the field. Maybe he knows that some development takes time or they just aren’t going to contribute? Given those factors maybe we are short at that position.
Interesting to see that the Beavs offered stud RB Conner Weddington who just decommitted from UW. UCLA also offered him recently and he received notice be was admitted to Stanford. I think the Beavs have room for four stud RB’s in their system if they get the right spread. It is a position where one or two guys could go down at any time.
How often do guys turn down a free Stanford education for OSU?
Not often, if ever. I think it shows this staff will go after anyone they feel fits the program.
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