11.Nov.2017 Oregon State @ Arizona

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Go Beavs.

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  • ObjCritic says:
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    Is Houston starting tonight?

    • angry angry says:
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      If you see a guy with a midget body and a pumpkin head, the answer is yes. If not, the answer is no.

      • ObjCritic says:
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        Read Yanni replaced him second half of last game. Did he do any better?

  • Nicebeaver says:
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    GoBeavs

  • VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
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    It’s tough to play in the desert. Remember it’s a dry loss.

    Tate 49 Nall 21.

  • scotty says:
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    Angry Muppet 45, #HallOut 20

    I’m sad there won’t be any Riley Huskerfreude next year. How will we take our minds off the crappy beaver football?

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Khalil Tate runs wild, ‘Cats hang at least 60 on the Beavs tonight. This one will be decided before halftime. Beavs will get a couple of garbage time scores. 63-20

    • ObjCritic says:
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      Yeeesh, did you get some inside information that Banker stopped by as a “consultant” this past week to advise the Beavers on how to handle a mobile QB?

    • GreatSwammi says:
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      Hey Whiskey….do me a favor next time you post to OregonLive, let Fanno66 know that John Canzano had me banned from Oregon Live because I exposed his radio program’s sponsored support by the DolphinII Strip Club. JC also blocked me on Twitter too. Apparently, JC can’t handle the criticism even when it’s justified and based on fact. Thanks.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        I don’t post on Oregonlive. If that was a dig on me, you’ll have to enlighten me.

        • GreatSwammi says:
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          Nope, it wasn’t a dig. When I was still active on O-Live, I thought I recalled seeing you post comments there.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Rich Rod already in his 6th season at UA, 42-32 record. Didn’t realize he’d been there that long.

  • Nicebeaver says:
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    Darrell Targets in goes crazy and has the game of his life, playing close to home in nearly his final game. Beavs follow his lead and play their best offensive game of the season. Arizona still rolls the Beavs.
    Arizona 56, Oregon State 24

    • Nicebeaver says:
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      Motherf#$in phone. I swear it corrects words long after I’ve typed them. Targets in = Garretson

      • Doozeldorf Doozeldorf says:
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        Wouldn’t mind seeing a little bit of Mason Moran (the new MM). He could be our secret weapon in the CW.

        • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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          Save him for the CW then. That kid looks like if he got hit just right he might explode like tempered glass.

  • Miles or Baldwin says:
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    45-20 Arizona. #HallOut

    Over by 5 minutes into the 3rd. Tate runs wild and also throws for more yards than Garretson.
    Leach sends Barnes a copy of Swing Your Sword for inspiration on his coaching hire.

    • They Never Caught That Rhinooooo says:
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      Garretson completes 10 passes, but won’t break 100 yards.

  • Beav in DE says:
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    I’m taking this as a surprise OSU win, making Hall the front runner of our awful alleged HC options. Why not?

    OSU 38 Arizona 31

  • Nicebeaver says:
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    Game will starts out on the “ESPN News” channel since Northwestern/Purdue are going long.
    Then it will move back to ESPN2.

  • angry angry says:
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    Can’t find the game. Fuck this.

  • them beavers them beavers says:
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    so Zona plan is just QB run every other play?

  • angry angry says:
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    Found it.

    TD Arizona right as I tuned in! This is going to be unwatchable.

    Maybe if Moran plays at QB or something like that it’s watchable. What are the odds? I’d put them at sub 1%. So why the fuck am I watching this shit?

    • ObjCritic says:
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      The NCAA prefers you not ask that question….

    • Nicebeaver says:
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      Tate is obviously very talented, but you can tell he was visibly upset when Rich Rod called a passing play(which he ended up keeping anyway and scrambling for 25 yards)
      Seems to know he’s the 1 man show down there at arizona. Wonder if the rest of the team likes that?

      • ObjCritic says:
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        There is risk to this approach by AZ though. Not that I wish injuries on anyone, but if Tate gets injured they’re a pretty forgettable, beatable team.

  • Nicebeaver says:
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    Tate keeps the ball on most plays. Gets a couple of 1st downs.
    Makes a mid range pass and 2 more runs later, Arizona gets the first rd. Pretty easy to score on the Beavs.

  • angry angry says:
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    Hall already looks defeated. Oregon State, where enthusiastic coaches go to die. Haha.

  • Chris says:
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    Just found it too. Should be interesting

  • angry angry says:
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    Garrettson needs to sit. He misses so many open throws. 6 wins with McM.

  • Chris says:
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    This game is going to get ugly. We are playing like a typical Andersen game

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Tate averaging 10.4 YPC, 10.3 per completion…is this bad?

    https://youtu.be/sFW-yxe13lo

  • them beavers them beavers says:
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    good thing Tate can’t throw

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Garretson has a “Solid, midrange game” says commentator who has never seen OSU play.

  • Doozeldorf Doozeldorf says:
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    It’s awkward watching Hall’s pregame speaches. He is overly amped up, but the players are just standing around looking lethargic.

    • Nicebeaver says:
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      Players are mad they had to turn off their headphones to listen to a guy scream at them

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Hall is FURIOUS! About…something.

    Also, come on, go for it! 4th and 1, you are likely to get it.

    • WFO WFO says:
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      They’re hiding from Arizona’s defense like they’re playing Alabama or some shit. Fucking run it right at them. Hall looked like he was yelling at the coaches.

  • Jack Jack says:
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    3rd and 1.

    Let’s roll out and throw the ball to the boundary on the move.

    Works every time.

  • Nicebeaver says:
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    Danni snaps a terrible ball. Careers in can often be seen reaching across to his right just to corral the snap. The play is already broken before it gets started.

  • angry angry says:
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    Why did we just pass with a shitty QB on 3rd and 1?

    • Doozeldorf Doozeldorf says:
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      Busted play.

      • Bill says:
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        It was busted. But had garrettson handed it off, it would have been a 5 yard loss. Az had loaded the box with 9 guys.

      • Jack Jack says:
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        Yeah… that blown call that pounds it down the throat of the opposition was blown.

        I agree.

    • Ryan says:
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      Why not run the ball on 3rd and or 4th down? Are we playing not to lose… Oh wait never mind.

  • Ryan says:
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    Oh hey on Arizona long run why don’t they call targeting on us??

  • ID Beav says:
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    Oh Jesus

  • Ryan says:
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    Tate has 96 yards already on us.

  • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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    Mayonnaise too tired from last week’s game to tackle

    • Ryan says:
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      He was listed as questionable after his 20 tackle performance.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    No Tyner so far?

    • OneEyedKing says:
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      He was in during that ankle-level snap, probably was a running play for him.

      Love the multiple arm-tackles on that TD run. Nice work guys.

  • Doozeldorf Doozeldorf says:
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    So far I haven’t seen anything out of the ordinary. Everyone predicted this, for some reason.

  • Miles or Baldwin says:
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    Tate at around 100 yards rushing in 1st quarter. Announcers saging this has been way too easy for UA. Asking out loud if this is a game Tate runs for 400 to put himself back among the leaders in the Heisman race. Lol Beavers. Barnes has his work cut out for him.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      This is somewhat of a “showcase” game for him…light it up against a bad team in a decent west coast time slot. If not for Tate, I bet this game wouldn’t be on where it is/

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    can’t hike the ball without it hitting the turf

    • ObjCritic says:
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      The former coach, a former center, fields a P5 team without a viable center. Is there one the depth chart for next year? Is it being recruited this year?

  • Numbers says:
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    Not a Garretson fan

  • sewer beaver says:
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    We smell like my ass.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    omg Garretson. Everyone remember how bad Luton was? lol

  • Bill says:
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    Can’t blame a lot on garrettson when the line can’t block for more than one second

  • sewer beaver says:
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    Our center and QB are midgets.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    At least our backup punter looks better than Porebski.
    Silver lining?

  • Miles or Baldwin says:
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    So has Barnes given up on Norvell? Would be a reasonable option also. If Tennessee got Gruden and Arky got Miles then there could be a shot for OSU to nab him if they actually tried to.

    • Bill says:
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      A&m, florida, Mississippi will also be hiring. Norvell could cash in big this year. Osu has no shot unless the shell out 5 mil a year.

      • Miles or Baldwin says:
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        Sumlin needs to get some consideration if he is available. He’d create some buzz and sell some tickets.

        • Jack Jack says:
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          Why go there when you can get a Jeff Nixon, a Dan Enos or a Beau Badwin?

          • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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            Let’s go with a big name like Charlie Weis? He’s not busy.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            Not enough KFC buckets in Corvallis to keep Charlie Weis fed. Besides, would you want his orbit and gravitational pull where you live? More children would disappear.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Mean… but correct.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Weis has an event horizon.

  • sewer beaver says:
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    Hall looks like Riley on the sideline. Ha ha

  • mexibeav mexibeav says:
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    Should put in Moran and see how he looks. Nothing to lose…

  • I like carrots a lot says:
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    Man we are bad, really bad

  • sewer beaver says:
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    Angry, you were right. We are Marshall

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    That was just pathetic. Anyone blame Anderson for bolting? I mean this is like 90% his fault, but at least he escaped with a shred of his sanity. It is insane how we can’t scheme/execute to beat a fucking running QB that can barely throw. Dude is just running our guys over.

    • Bill says:
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      Yes blame Andersen. This is his 100% on him. Hes the one who built the leaky ship and then ditched.

    • Bill says:
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      When he hired the coaches, he said it was the dream team getting back together or something like that. Then he trashes them in texts to a reporter?

  • Ostatebeavs87 says:
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    Just crazy… caught a break with pick to stay in game, can’t make any mistakes, that 3rd down was insane call…. run twice should be plan…. punting is absurd… could easily not be dead yet if we converted that

  • They Never Caught That Rhinooooo says:
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    Hall better receive offers from other schools. To be that enthusiastic and passionate with such shit players who give shit effort is incredible. Shit players, shit facilities, shit athletic department… yet here he is giving 100% every game.

    Guy will never win a football game at OSU but he is a big winner in my book. Get out of Corvallis Mr. Hall

  • Beaverbill Beaverbill says:
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    Both our coordinators need to be fired.

    • Ryan says:
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      +1000 I’m thinking both will be gone after the Civil War game.

    • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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      They should have left with ga…leaving their money, future and past, on the table

    • Bill says:
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      Maybe Andersen should have hire better coordinators to begin with

  • angry angry says:
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    What the fuck am I watching?

    Arizona vs some high school team from Oregon?

    Hall sure does look defeated. Players are only “tackling” if someone happens to run into them. I’d call it more like standing in space and falling if someone runs into you.

  • Doozeldorf Doozeldorf says:
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    3 wildcats in a row…to catch them off guard.

  • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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    Announcer says beavs should be a power running team.

    No shit. Too bad the stupid Kevin can’t figure it out

    • Bill says:
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      Have to be able to block to do that

    • WFO WFO says:
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      O Line is hot garbage.

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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      Can’t power run when your center can only shotgun snap, since he also can’t block his man.
      Every single offensive play has been blown up at the line of scrimmage tonight. By the time Garretson or Nall get the ball, there’s a defender in their face.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      18 rushes, 34 yards. Yup, total power run game numbers. A team has to have an offensive line with two squirts of piss to have a power run game. This team doesn’t even have two squirts of piss

  • AfghanBeav AfghanBeav says:
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    Wow, we are awful.

  • Ryan says:
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    Wow, are so bad. Ugh…

  • goBeavers goBeavers says:
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    Hopefully this wakes up all those people who wanted Hall to be the coach.

    We were lucky that we get to see so many games from our interim coach. It allows people to realize it’d be a disaster to keep him.

    • Ryan says:
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      Yes, this should finish off all the Coach Hall stuff. I still want to keep him on staff in some capacity, just not our head guy.

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      No kidding, did you see Hall get faked out on that reverse. Then miss that tackle down field? Yeah, niether did I.

    • Doozeldorf Doozeldorf says:
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      The only reasonable knock on Hall is that he hasn’t made any staff changes. Other than that, he’s doing as well as anyone else would with the current team.

      • Bill says:
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        This is a dumb remark. Coordinators can’t come in and install a new playbook halfway through the year. The players won’t be able to pick it up that fast.

        Change the playcaller, sure. But changing the coordinator would lead to even worse results.

  • them beavers them beavers says:
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    They don’t call holding on WR huh?

  • angry angry says:
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    This is a bad matchup. Looks like Vegas had it right.

    • Ryan says:
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      I haven’t seen Arizona throw a pass since thr int. No need just run on us.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        There is no need to throw a pass when your opponent mysteriously develops cerebral palsy when it comes to tackling ball carriers

  • Miles or Baldwin says:
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    28-0 Arizona. Barnes needs a Miles hire to rejuvenate Beaver Nation.

    Program is in the wastelands.

  • osu0209 says:
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    Return of the Flailbackers

  • AfghanBeav AfghanBeav says:
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    We’ve got to see a new QB at the half. Could not possibly do worse.

  • them beavers them beavers says:
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    So has Smith with his performance this year with the Dogs shown folks he is not ready to be a head Coach also.

    • Bill says:
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      It’s just not the right time still. He needs a few more years of seasoning. He still like 38. Need someone who can right the ship first. Coaches without hc experience will take longer to rebuild here since they’d be starting from scratch.

    • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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      Same with Beau-ner

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    I’d call Oregon State football a dumpster fire but that would be offensive to actual dumpster fires.

    • cj cj says:
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      Besides, we used that up during the first 6 games this season…

  • angry angry says:
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    These announcers trying to come up with half time adjustments. Haha.
    “Blow up the locker room, use stem cells to create clones of the early 2000 Baltimore Ravens”

  • Bill says:
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    As has 300+ yards on the ground in one half. I think rich rod will call off the dogs early.

  • gobeavers92 says:
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    This team has 100% quit. Blow it up and start over…………again. Ugh

  • ID Beav says:
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    Hopefully basketball will at least be a .500 team

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Arizona has 2 guys with 100 or more yards rushing and another with 85 yards. Nall has 12 to lead the Beavs

  • Beaverbill Beaverbill says:
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    Our next coach needs to be a recruiter. Beginning to lean to Les for the fix.

  • goBeavers goBeavers says:
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    I could be wrong but my honest opinion is that anyone who thinks Les Miles will come to OSU is delusional.

    • angry angry says:
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      Agree.

      He’s playing us for a raise somewhere else.

      • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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        Why would you say you are interested in OSU though? We don’t have the money that the sec and big10 schools have to pay.

      • Beaverbill Beaverbill says:
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        Les is probably going to Nebraska

        • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          Nope. Nebraska born, raised and alum.

          Scott Frost

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Agreed.

            I think with the team just giving up today they go for Frost 100%. I think they pay through the nose for it while also paying Panini’s and Riley’s buyouts.

            I don’t see any other options for them, which is half their problem. Miles would be a great fit there. But I think they’re so stuck on the fresh-faced Frost that they can’t see his value. Arky will be the same way. They may get him just because they don’t get Norvell.

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      It’s not that he won’t come. It’s that he won’t even be asked.

      And neither will any other decent prospects.

      We have a need t pick low hanging fruit around here, so long as it’s cheap.

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      Alot of the jobs he has some chance for would be in SEC West again where he has same Alabama problem and higher pressure to produce more wins. Arky is a tough place to win just like OSU can ne but at Oregon State he could get a full 5 years without high pressure. Arky would only pay a liitle more if they even want a 64 year old coach. Most of the SEC programs are reluctant to go that old.

      3.3 million a year in the Pac-12 for a retirement 16.5 million and some incentives isn’t a bad gig. Oregon is very beatable right now so he has chance to garner some positive attention. Beat WSU too and teams like Cal and OSU would be capable of climbing in the North into a much more interesting team. Barnes would have to be all in but for 5 years it should make OSU a respected team again and put an end to the joke the program has become.

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    Bad throw, good catch.

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    Finally a lucky break. Nice to see Tyner and Nall have some fire. They’re our only hope to make this a game.

  • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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    Well, at least they won’t be shut out

  • Atomos says:
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    The centerline temperature of a uranium dioxide pellet in a pressurized water reactor is about 1400 degrees Celsius during normal operations.

    Oh and Tate just boat-raced our secondary.

  • Beaverbill Beaverbill says:
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    Tate is playing against what looks like the cheerleaders.

  • cj cj says:
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    Jesus!

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    I turned it off, can they just forfeit the remaining games? The staff doesn’t care, the kids don’t care. Honestly, in all my years watching the Beavs (since petibone was coach) this is the worst team of them all. It’s gonna take a miracle to get this thing turned around…

    • them beavers them beavers says:
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      but the Beavers are winning the 2nd half 14-7

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      I was thinking the same thing. just forfeit the last two games. but then, that would be like sentencing yourself to the football death penalty.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        I’m all for it at this point. Save the embarrassment for these last two weeks and move on.

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    Where was this offense in the first half?

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    Jesus, the snaps are sooo bad.

  • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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    Hodgkin’s. Is. Good.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Both touchdowns have been bad passes with good catches, which I guess is better than good passes with bad catches

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      One man’s “bad pass” is another’s “put it where only his guy could get it”……..Just sayin’

  • cj cj says:
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    Hall must have buried his foot in McGiven’s ass at halftime. Finally getting some decent plays being called.

  • JockItch JockItch says:
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    ESPN commentators….nuff said.

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    Our defense still hasn’t figured out how fast Tate is. Still taking bad angles on him.

  • Doozeldorf Doozeldorf says:
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    WTF? Get rid of the ball!!!!!

  • AfghanBeav AfghanBeav says:
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    Wtf, you run the ball down their throats for 2 drives, so better come out and throw the ball 3 times…

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    Hernandez got targeted and no call.

  • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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    This is one of the teams the beavs beat last year, right.?

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      Again, we literally played against half of their scout team, mostly their D. This is what we looked like against them last year, except the sides were flipped.

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        No, God/mcm was QB last year, that was the difference. Or so I’ve been told.

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          That doesn’t mean half their D starters (literally) weren’t on the scout team to start the year.

          There’s a reason Rich Rod wasn’t fired after last season. It’s that even their most rabid fans said, “Yeah, we got nuthin’ healthy and playing. Can’t blame the coach for that.”

  • angry angry says:
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    Turned it off at the half and played guitar for the past 40 minutes. It’s been awesome.

    • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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      Quitter/ga wanna be

    • Doozeldorf Doozeldorf says:
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      This is why we are OSU.

    • angry angry says:
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      Haha. I had fun, though, while you guys watched meatheads get mangled by bigger and better meatheads. GA was on the drums hurdy gurdy.

      • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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        “GA was on drums.”
        Hitting himself on the head with a hammer?

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          He was on drums, briefly, but moved to the hurdy gurdy. Said something about it fitting better with his mood.

      • Doozeldorf Doozeldorf says:
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        I’m actually having fun watching our three RBs knocking guys on their asses.

        • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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          Me too. Doesn’t really seem that the “boys” have quit.

      • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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        Someone should have beat GA like a drum…well, I guess the entire PAC did. Nevermind.

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    I like how the commentators are saying that the Beavers need to recruit California and the Northwest. Well no shit, but they forget to realize that most of the quality recruits from Seattle and Portland go to Univ of Washington.

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    Fuck it, games over. On side kick, and blitz on every down.

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    I think the only guy who might be happy about tonight’s game is Barnes. Pressure is off about having to hire Hall and now he’s a free agent again. He’s got two weeks to get it done. I wonder how many players on D signed that Hallin petition?

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      So long as Beauner is considered a viable/logical/sensible/realistic choice for the next head coach, Hall might as well be in the mix.

      • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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        Beau-ner is not viable/logical/sensible/realistic but if he IS being considered, Hall is just as viable/logical/sensible/realistic

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          I’m just hoping all this lazy tripe about sub-standard prospects put forth by our media is ignorant speculation missing the mark because Barnes is actually running a tight ship/

          I know. It’s a lot to ask. But I still hope it’s so.

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    A couple of pick sixes and we’re back in this thing!

  • cj cj says:
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    Garretson has 3 TD passes on the night. Who says “run the ball”?

  • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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    Despite Tate kicking the beavs ass, Baker is still a better QB and Heisman candidate

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Commentator: the player down is Eli Aydun, from…..Alaska….”

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    Who’s this Villamin guy?

  • cj cj says:
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    Yay!

  • angry angry says:
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    McM winning again with 2TDs at the half.

    • cj cj says:
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      Is the game on TV?

    • McMammoth Boner says:
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      He’s good.

      • WFO WFO says:
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        He’s good enough. And if fucknuts GA hadn’t tried to flip the offense 180° McM would have been the starter on a run heavy option offense that would have won some games.

        • Jack Jack says:
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          Not.

          But if you say it enough, it will be true.

          • WFO WFO says:
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            It’s not McM that would be the difference maker. The winnable games could/should have been won by an offense that looked like most of the second half of this game. Never should have seen that whatever the fuck garbage that was the first 4 games.

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            … or the first half.

            Agreed.

            That’s what I’ve been saying all along. Inserting a mediocre MWC-West QB for the mediocre MWC-East QB we have wouldn’t make a difference.

          • JaxLuv'sTRUMP & is a LOON JaxLuv'sTRUMP & is a LOON says:
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            Give it up old man

          • Jack Jack says:
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            What would be it?

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Common sense?

  • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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    Nall. Is. Good.

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    So we are losing by 28 at half then are only down 21 with 3 minutes left. If we would have run this offense the whole game we are in it. Until gerretson throws that dumb pick.

  • Doozeldorf Doozeldorf says:
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    The Arizona defense knows where Garretson’s long balls go better than our receivers.

  • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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    Villy da punk. Bro, at least try for the throw, or even the tackle. No wonder he gets no love from the coaches or qbs

    • WFO WFO says:
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      Fucking PI that motherfucker. Villamin couldn’t be more garbage.

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    He checked out 2 years ago.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Fresneck/Hawaii stream

    http://wiz1.net/channel87

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Because you haven’t watched enough shitty football yet?

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        Honestly I was not impressed with either team nor McMarysuck. Threw 2 picks in the 2nd half and let a shitty Hawaii team back in the game. Not that it matters. McMaryquitter is no longer here and in a few more weeks the turds get flushed and we start over.

        Nick Rolovich must have been schooled at the Gum Chewer 2 minute drill for dummies academy.

        • Jack Jack says:
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          Rolo has been a disappointment. He’s a great football mind… and one helluva nice guy.

          I think he got the head job a year or two early. He will do better on his next go around.

          You weren’t supposed to be impressed by Fresno v. Hawai’i. It’s Fresno v. Hawai’i. The better of the two are further away from beating UW than we are.

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    Yeah villlamin, and Arnold will be the biggest addition by subtractions ever. They both had a lot of potential; but have become softer and softer.

    I wonder how much of the old Riley era still holds this team down honestly. That plus ga ridiculous use of qb. I really do think a good detailed coach could come in and make us a bowl team year one.

    • WFO WFO says:
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      My concern is the lines.

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        O line should be good, depending on what kind of O the next coach wants to run. If we’re a spread O with all the bells and whistles, it really doesn’t matter. We’ll win enough to be second through fourth in our division and go bowling in Vegas… in a good year. Our D will suck. But our O will score some points while we lose.

        Yay!

        I can tell you one thing. No coach who commits to the pass will ever have trenchers on the D side worth anything. There’s just something about the aura of a coach when he goes all soft. Riley went that way when Chryst left, and even more so when Gilstrap died. GA got a little juice with his words early. But the team’s actions spoke to the weak-assed O we were running in practice.

        That’s the way football works nowadays. You want to run this newfangled O with all the bells and whistles?

        Your D is going to suck against power.

        But you’re in luck. For some odd reason, most moron coaches want to dismiss power for this newfangled O.

        • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          For once I will agree with you. No more spread. It’s not something OSU can compete with recruiting wise in the Pac. I want Stanford lite. Ground and pound that motherfucker. With the way the college football world is these days I think it’s the only way OSU can compete in the spread happy Pac-12. Do something different most other programs aren’t. Either that or drop down to the Mountain West and well, that idea got shit all over a few months ago.

          I remain unconvinced that this administration is committed to winning. Either that or they are just clueless on how to build a winning program.

          Prove me wrong Ed Ray

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            It’s just who we are. We’re not USC or Stanford. We’re more like the Raiders, winning big when the personnel are just a little closer to the talent accumulated at places like USC. And you’re going to feel it for weeks after you play us.

            We haven’t been that way since this blog began. Hell, it’s why this blog began.

            angry says he’ll shut it down when we win a Rose Bowl (or just go to one?). I’m guessing he’s seeing a profit now since he’s gone all illogical with this QB crap and capitulating for Baldwin as a head coach. Profit does strange things to the logic train.

    • Victor Bolden says:
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      Hi! Did you forget about me and my backwards runs after the catch?

      • Jack Jack says:
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        Let’s remember some obscure guy who might have caught a pass one day, because that’s important.

        Meanwhile, Donald Trump is a “builder” who doesn’t pay his trades… in fact, he sues them to not pay them.

        It’s all in the public record, and anyone who thinks this pretend man is anything resembling you is a person with such a low self-esteem that I pity you… and so does anyone… because you’re a moron.

        Tax cuts don’t apply to teachers after they spend more than $250 on their students. But the rich get their cut.

        That Donald fuck, he’s not just another fuck.

        Suckers!

        • JaxLuv'sTRUMP & is a LOON JaxLuv'sTRUMP & is a LOON says:
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          I suggest you get off this board and go make some $$$, than you can get the tax break.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Who said I’m not getting tax breaks?

            Galore.

            But teachers who spend more than $250 to supplement the materials they don’t get for their classrooms, because Americans are selfish shits who don’t understand that a well educated populace benefits them in so many ways beyond their pocketbooks, no longer get to claim that spending.

            That’s how much the GOP and especially Dumbshit Don, the pretend man who literally sued hard-working Americans so he doesn’t have to pay them for the hard work they did for him and also pad off other hard-working Americans because he created a sham of a university that just stole money from them, cares about hard-working Americans.

            But hey… if you own stocks (not IRAs or 401Ks… because those people own zero stocks and will lose their shirts) you’re golden.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            I should clarify.

            While I can claim all income as incorporated, I will not get as big a break as international corporations will get. I also have zero assets offshore so I can avoid paying taxes like everyone else does. So I won’t be getting those breaks either. However, I will get a lot of that money in the form of dividends and revaluations due to buy-backs. That’s where all the offshore money will go once it’s repatriated, and I’m positioned nicely to receive a lot of it for myself.

            I won’t gain much from doing away with the inheritance tax. My parents’ estate is worth more than $5.5m, but split among their children and grandchildren will make it less than $5.5m per gift. I never understood the dislike for this tax. It’s not like I earned their wealth. It’s simply a windfall to me. The oft-cited family farm/small business scenario is pretty much bunk. But whatever.
            https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/ten-facts-you-should-know-about-the-federal-estate-tax

            Getting rid of the AMT would help, as would claiming pass-through status (as mentioned above). But I have to look a little closer at the language on this. It looks like I can only claim the lower rate on 30% of that income.

            It would be a typical GOP move to shit on small businesses like this.

            I don’t hold any mortgages over $500k. I don’t have any future college expenses or owe anything in terms of debt from when the kids went to school. So I don’t lose those credits and exemptions. I will have to consult my CPA about how capping SALT deductions will affect my business.

            The loss of that plus not having a mortgage on my primary residence means charitable itemizations are worthless.

            Crap… you may be right. Upper middle class will have to pay more. The only way to pay less is to become a global corporation. I may just have to retire and let my employees go. I imagine a lot of small businesses will have to do the same.

          • WFO WFO says:
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            I’ve done no research on the inheritance tax because my mom and my uncle pretty much blew all of my grandparents investment money but at first glance it seems like bullshit to me because that money was already earned and taxed by my grandfather. He could have taken it out in the back yard and burned it but he chose to give it to his kids instead. Either way, it’s his to do what he wished and the government already got their slice. Why am I wrong?

          • Jack Jack says:
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            If you get less than $5.5m (or $11m as a married couple), you don’t pay any taxes on that windfall. Even people who are gifted more than that have a ton of loopholes to avoid paying much of the tax anyway.

            But when someone dies, they sort of don’t get to do anything with anything anymore, not as they please, not as they don’t please. They’re sort of dead. Gifting it to heirs while alive is doing with it as one pleases. Hording it until death then parceling it to people who did nothing to earn it isn’t doing as one pleases.

            Besides, why do you care? This is a tax that 80% of the 1%ers don’t even pay. Boo hoo! The kid with affluenza only gets $60m instead of the $100m left to him. That’s not enough to surgically remove the silver spoon from his ass.

  • angry angry says:
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    McM with 3 TDs

    If he wins tonight that’s 8 of his last 9 QB starts a W.

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      Angry, I’m beginning to think you believe we would have been better off with McM…

      • Jack Jack says:
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        He doesn’t really think that.

        He’s just being a turd because he knows that illogical track bugs people like me. It’s a troll with a guaranteed response for him.

        If he cared about the subject, he wouldn’t have painted him in such a bad light just to create the narrative he created.

        • JaxLuv'sTRUMP & is a LOON JaxLuv'sTRUMP & is a LOON says:
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          1-9 dipshit, really???

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Is there a subject or verb or point in there?

          • Jack Jack says:
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            If you think MM being here would make us better than 1-9, you’re welcome to prove it.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            And since I don’t feel like waiting for your weak troll, I’ll just say it now.

            That’s what I thought. More weak on top of weak.

          • cj cj says:
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            Sometimes you’re a real shitball…

          • JaxLuv'sTRUMP & is a LOON JaxLuv'sTRUMP & is a LOON says:
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            How can I prove it o’mighty one? I mean seriously?

          • Jack Jack says:
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            You insist it must be true.

            If you’re so sure about it, you must have proof.

            Either that, or you’ve managed to pyhooya enough to speak the words that create this narrative that you insist must be true.

            I’m asking for confirmation in the form of proof, or we should assume these are just vomited farts.

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        Fresno is better off with McM and that’s a fact! Look he’s proving to be a solid MW QB and I always thought he was a great kid. I firmly believe he’s a better QB than DG, but that would not have necessarily made Beavers any better. And he was run off by GA, he didn’t fucking quit. It sounds like the team is happy for him. They seem to understand that he escaped the bat shit crazy one. More power to him.

        • Jack Jack says:
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          Everything except that he was run off is true.

          He’s an adult who made a life decision that was best for him. He made that decision by and for himself. More power to him.

          But if you insist his hand was forced, you take all that empowerment you ascribe to him away.

          That creates a narrative in which he is no longer an adult capable of making life decisions based on anything but emotion and entitlement. You make him out to be something counter to what you would have him be.

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            Use whatever term you want, if you don’t like “run off”. The way GA handled it (surprise, surprise) gave McM no good options at OSU. And no Jack, being a third string QB was not an acceptable option, no matter how you want to spin his “selfishness”. Look this debate is getting ponderous, read the article, I choose to believe McM is being truthful. Great kid, great decision. Given his OSU teammates still love him, I don’t think your narrative is accurate. We’ve both said the same thing stated different ways 15 times to each other. Stalemate.

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            He chose to leave. Nobody ran him off. He made a decision for and by himself. I’m sorry you can’t see him for an adult who knows how to make decisions.

            If you want to create the narrative that he’s an entitled brat just to forward the idea that he was run off, that’s on you. Then you don’t get to complain when I take your narrative and run it to its conclusion.

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            McM tried to stay, GA dicked him over a 3rd time so he left, then GA went insane and
            quit. The end.

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            … read the article, I choose to believe McM is being truthful.

            He didn’t say he was run off. He said he made a tough decision. He intimated it was because of entitlement. But so what? Once he made the decision to leave, he’s not a part of the team anymore. He said the decision he made for himself was supported by GA and teammates. That’s because it was his decision, not some dastardly passive aggressive gotcha that was known to have the result it had.

            There’s no need to create whole fallacies about his non-existence on the team being anything but his decision alone, or ones that he’s somehow better than he is and would have altered the course of our season by his marginal talent difference. Creating whole cloth fallacies like that leave your narratives open to other fallacies, because if one makes sense they all make sense.

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            McM tried to stay, GA dicked him over a 3rd time so he left, then GA went insane and
            quit. The end.

            I thought it was a fourth or fifth time. Are we now dialing that back? So now it’s only a “fool me thrice” narrative?

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    I was gonna say the same thing. No doubt he is good, but this coaching staff. I mean the qb guru mcgiven? Does his track record not speak for itself. Heisman Heisman Heisman especially as the beavs qb coach/oc.

    I honestly don’t like messing with real people’s livelihoods, but seriously. Our qb has been a disaster in so so many ways since ga and mcgiven have been in charge…. I should have changed my profession and found an in as a qb coach and I honestly could do so much better.

    Whatever, it is what it is, I just hope we don’t go with smith. Lea miles would be a great fit

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      I should have changed my profession and found an in as a qb coach and I honestly could do so much better.

      Salaries for coaches back in the day were in line with other school employees. If they were different then, I would also have become some meathead hack earning a quarter-million (or more) per year for doing essentially nothing.

      This will be a part of the downfall of college football and hoops. I think the bubble is a little harder to peg since the labor is undervalued.

  • Jack Jack says:
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    I would say the front-runner for toughest schedule in hoops right now is Utah Valley.

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      i recall losing to them at home during the Robinson era…

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        Had to be 2009 or 2010.

        CR and Pat Casey have something in common.

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          You could throw a dart at a map of the US and you would hit a mid-major conference school that CR lost to during his tenure!

          • Jack Jack says:
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            I think some of them didn’t even rise to the level of mid-major.

  • Jack Jack says:
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    And if you follow politics, you now know that Donald Trump is a Chinese apologist at best.

    That’s the best you can say about the fart of a man people pretend is a solid being.

    • JaxLuv'sTRUMP & is a LOON JaxLuv'sTRUMP & is a LOON says:
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      Stop dissing your boy, we all know you secretly luuvvvv TRUMP

      • Jack Jack says:
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        I love that he literally gives anyone the confidence that they too can be POTUS one day. I mean, if a schlub of a pretend man like that moron groper can become POTUS, so can any one of my dogs.

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          If someone so abjectly entitled, so borne of daddy’s money and racism, can become POTUS, so can my turds.

          You have to love that someone so devoid of morals has that position, because now half the prison populace can feel good about itself.

          You have to love that someone so stupid has that position, because now we know that education really isn’t that important.

          You have to love that someone with such poor taste has that position, because now we know that class has nothing to do with our lots in life.

          You have to love that someone from the Hollywood elites finally broke into the office of POTUS… well… a second person from the Hollywood elites.

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            Shut up, Jack! You’re turning from a shitball to a complete idiot.

            BTW – I don’t need to prove it, you do that with 75% of your posts. All we need to do is read them…unfortunately.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Awww….

            Is snowflake upset because their POTUS is a scum-sucking fraud who laundered money for international human traffickers, gun runners and drug kings? Does snowflake not like that Dumbshit Don’s newly found religulous lexicon is just a con? Does snowflake think American investors stopped doing business with Dumbshit Don because he’s just a chiseler and a fraud?

            Poor snowflake.

          • WFO WFO says:
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            Prove it.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Sure.

            You name what you want proven, and I’ll provide it. The money laundering won’t be solvable on my level, obviously. But I can provide proof of several coincidental financial dealings with a number of foreign entities (not just Russian mafia and oligarchs) who are currently being exposed in their own countries as frauds, money launderers, self-dealers and just plain old corrupt actors. If you believe numerous coincidences don’t tell any story of nefarious dealings, then the best you can call him is a dumbshit. I call him that because I’ve read many depositions in lawsuits he brought to apparently waste the court’s time. Here’s one yu can peruse.
            https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2430267/trumps-lawsuit-on-net-worth.pdf

            What a fucking dumbshit liar. Other depositions are way worse. It would be hilarious if I didn’t get so angry when I figured out losers like this pretend man clog up the court system because they think life is all about perception. Other lawsuits brought against him also clog up the courts. But those are because he’s a chiseler.
            https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-05/trump-s-dc-hotel-tagged-with-5-million-in-unpaid-worker-liens

            What a loser. What do we call people who don’t pay their bills? Is loser good enough for now? He’s done this on every project since forever. So it’s no surprise to find this with minimal research.

            Or maybe you need proof of Daddy Fred the racist and the little bone spur of an offspring who doesn’t fall far from the racist tree.
            http://apps.frontline.org/clinton-trump-keys-to-their-characters/pdf/trump-fha-complaint.pdf

            There’s so much out there on this guy that anyone who claims they don’t know what a giant turd he is has to have just climbed out from under a rock. So just ask for proof of any one thing, and I’ll go do the hard work of using the google machine to find all sorts of fun facts. I’ll just leave this story of Old Bone Spur the idolater for anyone to read. It’s not definitive proof of anything more than Dumbsht Don’s noticeable use of a religulous lexicon.
            https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/01/27/christians-dont-be-fooled-trump-has-deep-religious-convictions/

        • I-9orangejulius I-9orangejulius says:
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          Well in fairness, unlike your dog, even that idiot probably never humped a stranger’s leg, probably

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    He sure rolled over when saw all the marching bands and balloons in his honor.

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    The worst part of the game was repeatedly having to hear how tough it is to recruit to Corvallis, how tough the job is, how we can only expect Taggart’s recruiting leftovers in the state of Oregon, blah, blah, blah.

    • Numbers says:
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      If Barnes was really worth all the money we are paying him, he’d be giving those announcers personal phone calls and giving an earful, as well as espn and any other tree he could shake up.

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        Then perhaps we should be giving Barnes an earful. NFL background is on and I overheard one of the announcers commenting on retread coaches in the NFL – get fired, go to another team, yadda, yadda, but the Rams took a chance on a 31-year old coach who, so far, is doing well. Although last night’s game was overall terrible, there was more adjustment at halftime than I can recall with either Riley or Andersen.

        • Jack Jack says:
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          NFL is quite a bit different than college because you’re dealing with professionals on all levels.

          That being said, hiring McVay wasn’t a huge leap in faith. His age doesn’t belie his experience and success up to now. He is an example of how making coaching a serious career choice out of college can benefit someone.

          I’m just amazed he can win with such an obviously bad QB.

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      Yes…called for heavy use of the mute button.

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    Look on the bright side. Beavs did better than the Hucksters.

  • JaxLuv'sTRUMP & is a LOON JaxLuv'sTRUMP & is a LOON says:
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    jax!!!!! Serious question, why do you only talk shit about McM? I never hear you call the other QB’s “pussies” or “quitters” for leaving. What about our whole coaching staff, they quit other places to come here. Is Tyner a pussy too, what about Hudson and T. Johnson?? They all quit too, according to you, why would we let quitters on the team? 1-9 jaxass but I guess you like losing and being a closet duck fan.

    • Doozeldorf Doozeldorf says:
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      Whoa, calm down Mrs. McMaryion.

      • JaxLuv'sTRUMP & is a LOON JaxLuv'sTRUMP & is a LOON says:
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        Wasn’t talking to you bitch

        • Jack Jack says:
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          You’re not talking. You’re just whining that your making MM a joke is called out.

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      I’m not the one talking shit about MM. You are doing so by insisting he quit because he’s an entitled brat.

      I don’t care what he does once he quit. He chose to do so for his own reasons. His own reasons obviously conflicted with the idea that he was a teammate who was committed to his team once he showed up for fall camp.

      I can let it go.

      You can’t.

      I don’t bring him up.

      You do.

      Your narrative requires that he’s an entitled brat who quit on his team, but you pretend he’s some great player he isn’t because he’s playing in some watered down shit conference with much lesser talent.

      Again, I don’t care about him so long as you don’t bring him up. But if you insist on trolling the blog with the imaginary greatness of someone who quit on his team, I’m obliged to call out that garbage.

      I think that’s why the garbage is spewed in the first place. I think you think it’s funny to make a joke out of MM by constantly pretending his quitting is something to praise. He’s your joke, not mine. I don’t bring him up, reminding everyone that he quit on our team after pretending to be committed to them, but claiming that he’s some kind of great because his entitlement led him and him alone to make that decision.

      You do that.

      Stop doing it, and your narrative of MM as a joke goes away.

      • JaxLuv'sTRUMP & is a LOONye JaxLuv'sTRUMP & is a LOONye says:
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        Yes you do you fucking liar

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          No, I don’t.

          In fact, you’re the one who continues to bring it up. You can imagine all you want how your narrative is something that makes MM someone to admire. It doesn’t. You make him the fool for your own selfish reasons.

          That’s no lie, you spurious little mind.

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    Well, the team was finally exposed for what it is.

    There’s a reason why teams go 1-9; if they have a bad game against a decent team, this typically is the result.

    I admire & support Coach Hall’s passion — he is completely dedicated to the game — and I realize that he was placed in a very difficult situation in the middle of the season.

    Unfortunately, we will need a hard reset of some kind.

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    Butch Jones is available

  • angry angry says:
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    Blog update: added an “ignore” feature for testing. Little x next to the users name. The idea is you can see they posted even if they’re on your ignore list, but the text won’t show. Let me know if you dig.

    • cj cj says:
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      Wow, I clicked the “x” next to Jack’s name and the whole thread nearly disappeared!

      Awesome! Thanks

      • I-9orangejulius I-9orangejulius says:
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        Because everyone is afraid to scroll? There’s plenty of bull spewed on this site, be man enough to read past what you want to ignore

        • Jack Jack says:
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          Then he wouldn’t be able to read only things that confirm his evangelical nihilistic biases. Misanthropes don’t like to be reminded that they’re misanthropes.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Yet again I want to thank bobbyD for the hires he made while getting paid big bucks by OSU. I guess that means I should also be thanking dr. ray for letting that dick head be AD for so long.

    Thanks a lot you ass-holes!

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    Hey Angry, any chance we can get a filter on the ignore button. Jack’s basketball comments are great but the rest of his posts wouldn’t be out of place with the product we put on the football field. Worst time of year to filter jack, just when he is going to become relevant.

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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      You could name it the Jack Off feature. Probably get lots of blog hits.

  • WFO WFO says:
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    So there’s apparently a choice that needs to be made at center.

    Either it’s basketball head that is too small to play the position and gets blown off the ball every snap, but he delivers the snap on target…

    …or it’s Yanni that can’t snap his way out of a wet paper bag and pretty well fucks the timing of every play, and is still only marginally better at blocking.

    I will give DG props for doing a great job corralling some really shitty snaps.

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      DG spent most of the game fielding snaps that were less than two feet off the ground, deserves props indeed! Would going under center be the best move now?

      The RB often lost a couple steps waiting for DG to come up with the ball and make the handoff, steps that would have put him into the gap early.

      Not to be forgotten is Yanni being flagged for being ineligible downfield on a long pass completion.

      Gary Andersen played the position, seems like he could have developed a better option at center. Of course, it seems like he could have done a lot of things.

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        GA was a scrub walk on so he spent his coaching time making snap decisions and being a dick to quarterbacks.

        And I agree with Jack, either under center or pistol formation from here on out.

        Pistol with a direct snap to Nall would be a nice wrinkle. Arizona basically runs a wildcat offense, Tate throws a football about like any other kid that grew up playing catch in the street.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Why do we have to be in the shotgun?

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    How do get rid of Banker and get WORSE on defense? That is elite coaching.

    Looks like the stake though heart of the Mike Riley experiment in the heartland was the beatdown yesterday.
    Most heard comments yesterday from Husker fans:
    What’s with Oregon State flag?
    The worst coached Neb team in the modern era.
    He is such a nice guy. We really hoped he would do better.
    Danny L is a lousy OC. Wants to throw every down.
    Cav. Is the worst fucking OL coach we have ever had. A disgrace to our history. My favorite!

    I made sure tell them about my Beaver background and politely thanked them for hiring Riley.

    FWIW, most of the folks I talked to want Scott Frost, but don’t think he will take the job if offered.
    He was really savaged when he left the state to play for Stanford, and then again his first year because he was not Tommy Frazier and had the audacity to lose a game as the starting QB.
    The overwhelming prediction was Les Miles.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Miles would be a good fit there.

      • Jack Jack says:
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        But can they afford to pay two ex-coaches and an ex-AD on top of what Miles would command for a salary?

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          The short answer is yes. Having your HBB and HFB both named Miles would be confusing.
          BB Miles is on his last legs this year, so they could have another buyout.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            The hoops version has not been good. He’s had one winning season, and it doesn’t look like he’ll have any more. Eichorst was at least smart enough to not extend him.

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    Sounds like the media and most on this board have come around to my stance on Hall. He’s not going to be the coach next year and probably not on the staff at all.

    But I still think they have a shot in the next two games.

    For the ASU game, the team has played better at home under Hall. There were no significant injuries or suspensions in the arizona game. The weather should help the Beavs. Lots of cold and rain will keep the ball on the ground.

    For the civil war, it’ll depend on Herbert. Ducks are pretty one dimensional if he’s not playing. It’ll be a similar game to Stanford.

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      #HallPass

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      Media has seized upon Hall’s remarks postgame, pushing the “discord among defensive coaches” theme. Hall will learn to choose his words more carefully; right now he is too straightforward at times. A sign of the combination of inexperience and enthusiasm I believe.

      The next two games are winnable. I’ll buy your weather/home field points vs ASU and, as for the CW, some are placing too much importance on Herbert’s availability. He never has been a top notch QB and, if he returns, seems to me he will have a rusty body and demons in his head.

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        Does it really matter what Hall says at this point? At least his passion shows he cares. Also, he is the HC. What’s his responsibility/accountablity for things like the defense “not lining up right”. Could he not have noticed that in practice and asked Clune what the fuck he was doing? Why was it a surprise that it happened during the game. In the end, Tate did what he has done against almost every team. This result was not unexpected. I mean if Hall really believes that Clune was the reason, then fire his ass now and take over as DC, it’s just two games and they are all going to be gone anyway.

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          It may matter in this respect: the media stirring the pot on bickering among/between coaches can be a distraction and one more thing for Hall and the boys to deal with.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      For the first time I can recall in a very very long time, we came out of the locker room at halftime having made some kind of adjustments that worked.

      When was the last time that happened?

      I once ran Riley’s stats regarding winning/tied/losing at the half. His record of winning games after losing at the half is really poor.

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        Of course, anything that so resembled a McGiven O like we did in the first half can be improved upon by simply not running it anymore.

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        I posted this at 10: 12 a.m., today. “Although last night’s game was overall terrible, there was more adjustment at halftime than I can recall with either Riley or Andersen.”

        • Jack Jack says:
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          I missed your post, but you’re correct. It was noticeable. And then it was noticeable how I couldn’t think of another game in decades where we had positive halftime adjustments.

          I think there was a game against UCLA in 2007 or 2008 that went well after the half, but we still lost.

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            While not hallin, the adjustments at the half show hall has more on the ball than nice guy riles or nutball ga

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      #HallOut

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    All practices should be geared towards beating the Ducks at this point.

    It was interesting rewatching the first half. Hall was irate about the passing play on 3rd and 1 at midfield. Garretson multiple times was frustrated about the play being relayed to him. Nall’s body language was horrible, shaking his head after each run/tackle. I wonder if Nall transfers out for a showcase year to a winning program as a grad transfer. What would he look like at Stanford or Wisconsin where they decided to run downhill with purpose?

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      I noticed that too but I was still suprised they didn’t go for it on 4th down. There is no reason for Hall to coach cautiously at this point. Then in the 2nd half he went for it on a 4th and 5 once the game was already decided.

      I hope we don’t have to watch Nall playing elsewhere next year, but I share the same fear. He deserves better but I would love to see him go out as a legend at OSU.

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        Why wouldn’t he play for some terrific program as a grad student and go higher in the NFL draft? He has gotten so screwed at OSU; defense, offense, put on weight, take off weight, 3 head coaches, uncountable bad coordinator coaches. He probably can’t wait to wake up from the nightmare.

    • WFO WFO says:
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      Pretty sure after that play they panned to Hall furious on the sideline yelling “What the fuck was that!!!!” and he wasn’t talking to any players. I commented on it when it happened, because it’s exactly what I and I’m sure most of you said at the same time. Garbage play calling.

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    I was impressed by the end of a play in which the Arizona RB busted a big play on the reverse and even though our team was down by 21 or 28 at that point, two defenders ran the length of the field and managed to tackle him before he scored. I was impressed that they hadn’t given up FWIW.

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    Pretty sure

  • Bill says:
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    Men’s team up again tonight. Let’s see if they can continue the play from Friday.

    There are some things they can get better at. Defense rotations need to be better. Bench guys need to play cleaner. More movement without the ball.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    A few weeks back there were rumors of heavy drinking by one or more of the coaches. Does anybody know if Clune was one of the names mentioned?

    Just curious because of the sideline tension and shitty game planning we saw this weekend, especially on the Defensive side.

    I remember back to an interview Brandon Sprague did with Clune back around the end of summer. One of the questions Sprague likes to ask guests is “what’s your favorite drink right now?”
    Usually guests have no problem answering, but Clune avoided the question. Then, Sprague said in a subsequent show that Steve Fenk called him after the interview and asked him to lay off the alcohol questions when talking to coaches. At the time, I was thinking maybe Fenk just thought it was in appropriate to ask college coaches about alcohol in general, but I’m starting to think that Clune was a special case possibly. Might help explain why he also has looked so disheveled at times this year.

    Or maybe he’s just a bad DC

    • Bill says:
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      Won’t be an issue in two weeks. They will all be gone.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      He probably doesn’t drink and finds such questions offensive.

      Ask him about how much he loves Mountain Dew, and you’ll get a different response.

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      His question should have been, “Can you count backwards from 100 by sevens?”

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    VB team 9-7 in the PAC with a good shot at a NCAA bid. Something going right this fall.

    • helmsley says:
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      2016 coach sanely, sensibly retired. Former assistant promoted to coach 2017 team. Hmm.

  • Bill says:
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    ASU opens as a 7 point favorite. Lowest line of the year I think.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Lowest open? Didn’t CU creep to six after opening at nine?

    • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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      Lower than PSU?

    • ReverendBeav says:
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      CSU was only 3.5 wasn’t it?

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        L 27-58 +3.0 Ov 61.0 +150
        09/02 Portland St W 35-32 -26.5 Ov 60.5 —
        09/09 Minnesota L 14-48 -2.5 Ov 50.5 -140
        09/16 Wash State L 23-52 +17.5 Ov 65.0 +644
        09/30 Washington L 7-42 +26.5 Un 59.0 —
        10/07 USC L 10-38 +32.5 Un 58.0 —
        10/14 Colorado L 33-36 +9.5 Ov 56.5 +310
        10/26 Stanford L 14-15 +18.0 Un 56.0 +674
        11/04 California L 23-37 +7.0 Ov 54.0 +246
        11/11 Arizona L 28-49 +20.5 Ov 68.5 +800
        11/18 Arizona St 3:00 pm +7.0 59.5 +238

  • Jack Jack says:
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    Today’s “what is he thinking” moment brought to you by Rick Neuheisel.
    https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/930094814288404480

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    I was given a tip that Oregon State will announce their new head coach Monday morning, after the Civil War game(Nov 27th)

    They also plan to announce they’re replacing the Oregon State fight song at the same time. Not sure if the two are related, but I was given an advanced copy of the new fight song. It’s catchy

    https://youtu.be/yn4glAm-ZEk

    • Jack Jack says:
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      I’m afraid to click on this. It smells of a Rickroll. 😉

    • Beav in DE says:
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      My friend’s neighbor knows Les Miles’ personal assistant. Says he has tickets booked to fly to Portland on 11/26.

    • cj cj says:
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      Need to replace the frigging Nutria, too!!!

      • jaxhatestransfers jaxhatestransfers says:
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        As long as it’s not that ugly ass “concerned” Beaver like your Avatar. Ha

  • Jack Jack says:
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    Posted by Scott Barnes this morning:
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOiAhT6V4AArt9b.jpg

  • Jack Jack says:
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    Someone previously mentioned this number was a liability.
    https://twitter.com/ZonaZooOfficial/status/928452448586424320

    Good call.

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      That makes me miss Kevin Duckworth.

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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      Yes, it was a Patriots fan who pointed out to Robert Kraft that their mascot needed a number change, which they followed up with several super bowl wins.

      Why not just make Benny #12?
      Is there a rule that says he has to be #00?

  • Jack Jack says:
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    This is just masterful spin.
    https://twitter.com/GreggDoyelStar/status/929185655913054208

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    RADIO ALERT:
    Mike Parker will be replaced by Ron Callan for the broadcast of the ASU football game this week. Only a temporary situation, due to minor surgery for Parker.

  • Jack Jack says:
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    To be fair, the people who used to run it and would be in the know all went to prison or have been fired.
    https://twitter.com/Fiesta_Bowl/status/930195844720050176

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    Some of the official visitors we had slated to visit this weekend have been asked to move their visit date out to December now.
    Originally Nikki Hall and Isaac Hodgins were supposed to be visiting, among others.
    Sounds like there are still several JUCO guys coming this weekend however.

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      Sounds to me like new coach is already a known and he wants to meet these kids

      • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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        Either way, it would imply Hall is not the next head coach.
        Doesn’t mean he won’t be involved in another role, however.

    • Bill says:
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      Drop the jucos. Need guys who can develop and play over 4 years.

      • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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        We also need guys who can make up the line next year. Especially if Craig Evans isn’t around. We’re also losing some D.Ends

  • gobeavers92 says:
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    Is there any way to watch the bball game tonight?

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Non Pac-12 website stream for the men’s hoops game tonight. Close the X’s, any popups, don’t install anything and let the stream load. This is one of the sites that always works for me. Whiskey will be in the house Saturday night vs Long Beach St if you want to say hello or punch me in the face.

    Go Beavs

    http://www.streamendous.com/ch_a.php?74

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      Thanks WSN. I tried using that website for the Arizona football game and kept getting a message saying I needed to update XYZ, which I didn’t do so never got to watch the game. Tonight it’s working fine. WTF.

      Anyway, thanks!

    • cj cj says:
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      ” Whiskey will be in the house Saturday night vs Long Beach St if you want to say hello or punch me in the face.”

      Will the line be very long?

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        I’ll have my DMV counter on hand. Now serving……..

        The hate Whiskey fan club isn’t exclusive and growing in numbers

        • Jack Jack says:
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          Why would anyone hate you?

        • cj cj says:
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          We will be there, too. Also going to the ASU football game at noon, Then coming back Sunday to watch the ladies play Notre Dame.

          It will be a long weekend…

  • angry angry says:
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    Man, a girl I knew in HS just got diagnosed with stage 4/terminal breast cancer. It is surreal to watch it play out on FB — Happy posts one day living a normal life, and then that the next day. Good reminder how little all this sports shit means. It’s surreal. Second girl from my HS to have his, and both were way too young. It’s going to be very rough when this starts happening to people closer.

    Anyway, no condolences necessary it’s not about me…it’s just fucked up. Can one of the admins put up a new thread?

    I’m not going to be following sports for a few days while processing this.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      That’s a tough pill to swallow. About a year after my wife passed away from breast cancer the same thing happened to a gal I went to HS with. She was gone less than 11 months after her diagnosis. Life is cruel sometimes. It also helps one gain perspective on what is truly important.

      • angry angry says:
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        It’s awful, man, sorry you had to go through it twice already and with someone so close.

        Makes me hope GA is alright, too, even though he was a shitty coach. Hope it wasn’t a health problem (I was always concerned he’d get skin cancer with so much sun). There’s nothing worse than health issues.

        I’ll be back by the weekend. If a mod wants to put up any thread go for it. I’m just not in the mood to write anything about sports, yet we need a new thread up.

    • ,GreatSwammi says:
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      Angry, a lady I used to work with….her mom was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer which is generally a death warrant. She refused chemo and radiation and instead started taking vitamin B17 and two years later she is cancer free. You can’t buy b17 in the USA but buy it from UK or Canada. I think it’s about $40 for one month supply with no side effects….derivative of the apricot seed. It worked on pancreatic cancer so it’s worth a look….

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