29.Nov.2017 Jonathan Smith — Next Head Coach

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For now. You never know with OSU…

Anyway, I’m okay with it, and even like the idea of Erickson coming on as a mentor in the AHC role. Could be interesting and work if there isn’t a power struggle. The coordinators are now the key.

I’m just happy it’s not Banker or Hoke.

PS. Can someone name me 38 year old HCs who’ve succeeded?

Go Beavs.

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  • goBeavers goBeavers
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    Erickson was AHC/RB coach at Utah. I could see that being the case again here.

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    Disaster.

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      Why?

      I think it’s at worst an okay hire. Banker, Hoke, Riley…those warrant the “disaster” label.

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        #1: UW fans are STOKED they don’t have to fire JS. (akin to our reaction to Nebraska hiring Riley)

        #2: If we were going to hire a coordinator, why not go after someone on the rise? Compete against other teams to get a top coordinator. Maybe someone among the Broyles award nominees. Not a mediocre coordinator with zero track record as a top recruiter.

        #3: Otherwise, we should be looking at a guy who has a proven ability to build a program out of shambles (and that’s a very kind way of describing where we’re at currently). Settling for JS largely due to his time at Oregon State as a player, is a big, fat, miss.

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          They didn’t like his playcalling last year even though UW set a team record for TDs and points and went to the playoffs.

          I don’t get that, other than fans always wanting more or did UW leave a lot of additional points on the table? Is it “style points” kind of thing?

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          You do understand they weren’t firing him right? Just because fans don’t like him (and Seattle sports fans always blame the coordinators) doesn’t mean he was doing a poor job.

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          from what I saw of their offense, I liked it. Running game, use of TE’s, diversity in passing game, snaps from under center…..big plays…much more watchable than what OSU has fielded recently.

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            – Only coach given only 1-year extension after ’15
            – Brought in Tedford for ’16
            – Brought in Lubick as Co-OC for ’17

            Not great endorsements.

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            Given 2 year extention last year and almost doubled his pay.

          • BlackBandits BlackBandits
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            Tedford was an unpaid consultant.

          • BlackBandits BlackBandits
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            As ObjCritic stated above, set records in ’16, bring in lubick for ’17 and things didnt go as good. Lubick was Oregon’s OC last season and look how that turned out. He looks better when you don’t cherry pick talking points.

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            I asked a friend who is a big Huskie fan about Smith. Smallest possible sample, but the response was, “You’d have to pry him from my cold dead hands!”

            Heading over now with my prybar!

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          How can you build shambles out of shambles? – M*A*S*H

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          I understand Dawg fans reluctance to warm up to Smith as he is a Beaver and every time he played them, he threw the ball around for some unbelievable yardage – I was at the Seattle game when we lost by 1 point and he had 500+ yards. But he has done a great job up there and they missed being NC’s by one game; not sure what they are complaining about. Dawg fans whine about as much or even more than Duck fans do! I think that Smith looks better in Orange and Black than that Purple and Gold – he’ll certainly be more appreciated.

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    Also, what was the talk of waiting until Dec 3rd to interview a sitting coach? A smoke screen for this hire? I don’t understand the point of that. Maybe that guy told him not interested after thinking about it.

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      Yeah, what the crap is going on here? Did everyone else say No?

      Why did we have to wait this long just for Jonathan Smith?! What happened to Beau Baldwin? I thought he was a lock. Did even he say no?!

      He’s a feel good hire because people will remember his good vibes as a player, but I doubt he’ll lead us to success as a HC.

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      Probably is the case that the guy decided he wasn’t interested so they pulled the trigger.

      I am optimistic and Smith will put together a young talented (if inexperienced) staff. Its a gamble but could end up being a great hire.

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      >Also, what was the talk of waiting until Dec 3rd to interview a sitting coach?

      I’m guessing they knew they could interview somebody before the 3rd but couldn’t announce it. They interviewed somebody in the last couple days, couldn’t come to an agreement for whatever reason, announced Smith today.

      If they had come to an agreement, it would have had to wait until the 3rd for the announcement.

      I think that all makes sense.

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    Gundy at Oklahoma? He was 40 and a man in 2007, so 38 in 2004 when named HC prior to the 2005 season, his first?!?

    We’ll see if Smith needs to make such declarations and has as the higher end of success Gundy has.

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      Wasn’t Gundy a QB for that school, too? Memory might be failing on that.
      That’s a very apropos comparison if true, except for the fact Oklahoma State is loaded.

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        Yes he was. I think with Barry Sanders.

      • JasontheBeaver JasontheBeaver
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        …and Thurman Thomas.

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          He’ll sink/swim on his own. Don’t think age has much to do with it

          Here’s a quick short list: (sure there are countless more)

          Bear Bryant – 31 when he started at Univ. of Maryland, went to Kentucky following year
          John Robinson – 31 when he got head job at Southern Cal
          Rich Brooks – 35 when he got Oregon job
          Dennis Erickson – 34 when got Idaho job
          David Shaw – 38 when he took over at Stanford
          Dabo Swinney – 38 when named coach at Clemson

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        Gundy was brought in (to OK State) by Les Miles as OC and took over when Les left…

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    At least Smith should be able to spot a good and proper QB. Hopefully he doesn’t favor walk-ons and see himself in every tweener player like GA did.

    Not sure what WAs class looks like or if they have any nice QBs, but hopefully Smith can bring along some talent.

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      I can see this saving Petras. He could probably start as a TF.

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      He was the main recruiter (at least listed as the recruiter) for one of UW’s two 4 star QB recruits. The kid is from Bothell so he may not bail on UW but you never know.

      Jacob Simon is his name.

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        They had Bothells’ game on ESPN when they played that powerhouse from Denver, Mullen. Simon was almost Jake Locker-esque in that he appeared to be a man surrounded by boys on the field. Is he still the #1 QB in the nation?

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    BTW Angry, I wouldn’t be surprised if DE – in a AHC QB coach or similar role – doesn’t have Luton chucking the ball down the field next season. Smith/Erickson ought to be able to hold onto Petras for a positive future.

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      Ugh…Luton.

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        With proper leadership and coaching, Luton might improve. McGiven was simply awful. We will see.

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          He’d likely improve. The play calling was atrocious and the Beavs could have a good running game next year if they find a true center. Smith would likely seek better balance in the run game than did Andersen/McLovin.

          I could never understand Luton’s seeming inability to hit a receiver in stride on a shallow crossing route…often threw behind them. 6’6″ can see over the line, has arm strength, still can’t make that throw?!? Odd.

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            His timing was always behind… probably because he stopped to think, “Why are we running this play?” in the middle of each read.

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          Well, he was brought in to throw a deep ball, and it was actually his worst pass. The only throw he was decent at was 10 yards to a guy running across the middle. Even that throw was behind the guy 1/3 of the time.

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    This is a C+ hire. JS has a meh resume, but he’s a Beaver, so that’s a plus.

    HC’s his age who have succeeded:
    -Mike Norvell (currently only 36)
    -Justin Fuente
    -Ubran Meyer

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    Hopefully he can get a quality staff in place pretty quickly.

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    Another plus: JS has Montana connections, so there’s a remote possibility he’ll reach out to the newly available Bob Stitt!

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    AND Oregon worrying about losing Taggert, offers him a new contract…he’ll be able to wait and see what FSU offers:

    https://www.si.com/college-football

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    It’s the NFL but sean mccavay is only 31.

    • ObjCritic
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      I wonder what kind of hours that guy puts in. Amazing results for his first season.

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      I was going to mention this too.

      It’s also very helpful to personally know son of bum, & a few other people in the business, in that regard.

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    Smith might be able to attract Heyward, right? That would be a great get for DC and recruiting.

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    Will Smith be “Hall In?” Is it a good idea to retain him him if he’s not bitter about the outcome?

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      I noticed he’s changed his Twitter to say he’s the head coach…not the interim head coach. Have a hunch he might be bitter, but then again, I can’t really say what he feels.

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      It would be stupid to be bitter he did nothing to show he was ready to be a head coach anywhere

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    Hoping Kyle DeVan comes back as an O-line coach. Any suggestions for D-like coach?

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    Matt Campbell Iowa St – 37

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    Paraphrasing Forrest Gump: Hiring a coach is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you’re gonna get.

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    Danny Moron hinting at Heyward as DC.

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    Any thoughts on nepotism and Smith keeping cookus on staff? Wasn’t cookus rumored to be a cancer?

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    RE: PS. Can someone name me 38 year old HCs who’ve succeeded?

    As a Rams Fan Sean Mcvacy immediately comes to mind but he’s only 31.

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    If he does get Heyward as a DC, and retain Hall as DB coach (I doubt Hall would stay for that), I could see this being an aggressive, energetic staff…both in recruiting and coaching.

    RE Hall, what do people think of the DB play this year given the context – injuries to starters, inconsistent pressure from defensive line…is the consensus that he’s a good DB coach?

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      Is Hall that hot of a commodity on the coaching front anywhere outside of Corvallis? I mean, look at his resume objectively…

      NFL playing experience
      3 years of paid coaching jobs, all as DB coach
      0-5 as an Interim HC at a dumpster fire of a job

      I’m not sure his phone is ringing off the hook right now. He might just decide to swallow his pride and stay on Smith’s staff as DB coach.

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      Part of me wants Hall gone since the team collapsed. But I can see him working well with Heyward on the D side of the ball and being a good recruiter. I’m not sure where they’d put him if they get Heyward.. Heyward is a key piece. We need recruiters.

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        Agree in moving on from Hall. Such a dumpster fire this year let’s get rid of all the bad mojo.

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        Good recruiters + good process (practice) people.

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        Haha, imagine if Hall is hired by Chip Kelly to be a DB coach in Pasadena.

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    Smith seems like a low-floor, high-ceiling hire. However, I’m not overly concerned about the age thing. Lincoln Riley is 34 and is doing just fine at Oklahoma.

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    Instant take – It’s an ok hire. Smith will get a longer leash with him being an established star at osu. I really feel like he’s getting put into a no win situation.

    The only way Erickson can come back is as a non on the field coach. He can be a behind the scenes analyst like cookus.

    I’m really not for bringing the band back together. Didn’t work out for Andersen and there’s always a reluctance to let guys go ( see Riley).

    Hall should be out. He should not be the DC next year after seeing zero adjustments in the defense this year. If his goal is to be a hc, he’ll need to make a few more coaching stops or go to a non power 5 school for that experience.

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    underwhelming

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    The more I think about it, the more I like it. Guys that have played with Smith and coached with him all really like him. Bring in DE and some alums as assistants and this will really excite the fans.

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      The thing about psychology is, the more you think about anything the more you can convince yourself it’s a good choice. Since Smith is “one of us” emotions are involved, etc. Objectively it’s like a B- hire. I gave it a B because it’s Smith.

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        yep agree 100% First impulse was a C now after thinking about it for a while a reflecting on fond memories I am up to a B.

        Could be a disaster (but we are already there so it’s not like we are losing anything) could also end up being a feel good story.

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    Smith is our Frost.

    I like it because he understands and will get the culture. I like it for that reason more than he’s one of us. I liked Baldwin for the same reason. Corvallis gets dreary and lonely. You need someone who is okay with that and accepts it for what it is. I thought Baldwin was a bit more proven since he was a HC before, but Smith is fine. I view it as a B hire with upside. I don’t see massive downside. He learned something under Petersen and might have Erickson around to help keep a floor.

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      And honestly, if Nebraska had it to do over do you think they’d decide Frost wasn’t yet ready?

      If you think the guy can do the job, hire them. We will find out if Smith can do the job.

      I do think Hayward will be the DC which I love. Wonder about his OC, my guy (Mike Johnson) was his QB coach at OSU in 1999 so maybe its a match.

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      Smith is our Helfrich

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    JS did recruit one of UW’s two 4-star QB commitments: Jacob Sirmon, who’s ranked the #2 pocket passer in the country by ESPN.

    They have another 4-star already, so maybe Sirmon’s looking for playing time…

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      Sorry sirmon is firmly attached to uw. Uncle coached there and his father is a professor there. No way he’s leaving that.

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      They have Yankoff committed too, CdA kid, no slouch in ratings either.

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    Doesn’t sound like UW QB recruit Sirmon would be following Smith. He’s been a UW commi since his sophomore year and calls UW his dream school. Colson Yankoff, maybe?

    https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/with-new-signing-period-approaching-recruiting-season-heats-up-for-chris-petersen-and-the-huskies/

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    Basically everyone Barnes contacted said no thanks (Baldwin too after Wazzu opening possible)…

    Ed put this on Barnes and Barnes showed that he is a lower level AD at best…

    I don’t mind the JS hire (it’s the best Barnes can do) I think he will give 100% to this job and to this school… But Barnes needs to go, he’s small-time and it shows…

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    One to Two star hire, just like the recruits. Playing for the PAC back marker position. It is what it is.

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      Plenty of 2-stars go on to play in the NFL.

      Then again, plenty don’t.

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        Trying not to be negative, but it’s hard to be a back marker, when a good day is covering a 20 point spread..

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        My favorite dumb argument by the “rankings” services is the “percentage against the rankings group” argument.

        They use numbers to “prove” what they think is something that proves they’re validated. It would be cute and funny in a “I’ve seen 10 year-olds come up with more valid proofs” kind of way, except any proof would be more valid.

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    Some ESPN guy throwing cold water on the Smith parade and saying it’s not official yet…

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    https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/935976639221116930

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      smh wtf

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      Literally the only guy saying otherwise….plus his profile pick looks like he’s mid-shit.

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      An hour later, Adam joins the rest of the scribes:
      Adam Rittenberg?Verified account @ESPNRittenberg

      “Deal is now done between Oregon State and Washington OC Jonathan Smith. It wasn’t finalized until minutes ago.”

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    Smith being an offensive guy needs a really good dc. That’s the only thing i worry about with heyward while a great recruiter he doesn’t have experience as a dc. He could turn out good but it would concern me having a first time hc and dc.

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      Agree. Correct me if my memory fails, but didn’t we complain about his Beav DB’s not looking back for the ball? PI’s?
      As I remember, when he went to UW, his guys played with an attitude which was sometimes over the line.
      Do believe he is a good recruiter, as would be C. Hall who isn’t ready to be DC.

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    With no “slam dunk” candidates available, I think Smith is the right choice if only to keep our loyal fans engaged. I have a hard time seeing why Baldwin is necessarily a better choice after one year at a Power 5 school. Success in the Big Sky doesn’t necessarily translate to success in the Pac 12.

    Ticket sales were poised to fall off a cliff next year – this might salvage some of that. At the very least, OSU fans will be more forgiving if the sideline is full of familiar faces and nostalgic memories.

    Fingers crossed that the staff includes Ketih Heyward and Mike Johnson and we can get Hufanga and Johnson Jr. on board.

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    This is terrible. Loved him as a QB, but in no way is he ready to be a HC in the Pac12. But then again, I thought Andersen was a home run.

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    Can we assemble an AngryBeavs approved staff for him?

    OC – Dennis Erickson?
    DC – Keith Heyward (current DB coach UofO)
    OL – Kyle DeVan (current OL coach Ball St)
    RB – Yvenson Bernard?
    WR – T. J. Houshmandzadeh (2016 WR coach Long Beach Poly HS)
    DL – Inoke Breckterfield (current DL coach Wisconsin)
    LB – Trent Bray (current Interim HC Nebraska)
    DB – Cory Hall
    Special Teams – Cookus?

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    Don’t forget who gave Jonathan Smith his shot in college…..
    Mike Riley.
    Not saying anything is imminent, but I think this hire won’t do anything to keep him away from the program.

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      Gross.

      I’m not even sure I’d want him as OC, though I do think that was his best position.

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        Canzano is rumoring it now too…haha

        https://twitter.com/johncanzanobft/status/935984851001286656

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          QB coach at most. Don’t even want that. As OC he’ll just get pass happy again.

          Erickson is 100 x better as an OC. He calls balanced attacks, keeps running in the 4th quarter and knows when to stretch the field with a few chances.

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            You forgot to change your name from “Miles or Baldwin” to “I always wanted Smith”

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          Fuck crapzano…he lost any credibility when he took Heimlich to the woodshed over and over last June…then come to find out his radio program was sponsored and probably still is by the dolphinII strip club….and he has the audacity to write about exploitation of women….what a hypocrite douche bag.

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      He’s also the account that Jonathan Smith has most recently started following on twitter…lol

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      Yeah, please hire Riley as the OC so they can make this a colossal mess. We can watch Riley 6’8″ QBs that are as immobile as fucking dirt, run the left, run the right, pass 2-3 yards…fuck, I can’t wait for next season…..we’ll probably go 0 and fucking 12. Yeah, I’m a real happy camper today..Barnes just game Schmuck fans all the more reason to laugh their asses off at OSU. $200K search committee to come up with a HC w/out any previous HC experience. UnFuckingBeaverable and Totally Ri-Fucking-Duckulous.

      Way to go Barnes, you just fucked Beaver Nation again!

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    If it’s Smith then I’m thinking OH BOY this should mean a HC for less than a million $!!!

    Then spend some serious money for assistants.

    Bringing in a guy with no HC experience and also young means, imo that Hall has to go.

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      Knowing Scott Barnes, I’m sure we’ll be overpaying Smith. I’m guessing $2.5 million.

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        O U C H!!!

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        He should be 1.8. He’s on par with Baldwin.

        I’d actually say 1.5 with incentives to get to 2.2 makes more sense.

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          He’s not on par with Baldwin. Baldwin has three years (with two of them being high volume production) to go before he’s on par with Niner.

          I think he can get there, but I think his O handicaps his D immensely. At least this way we get some ground and pound basics back at OSU. I’d much rather rely on our strengths than rely on others’ weaknesses.

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    Eggers confirmed it’s Smith

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    Canzano was speculating that the Baldwin leaks came from his agent so he could play it off like the deal collapsed which helps Baldwin look better.

    OSU interviewed Hall, Smith, and Baldwin and told them they were going to keep looking so Baldwib’s agent did what was best for Baldwin.

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      That makes me have zero respect for Baldwin. Glad we didn’t land him now. I feared that was what was going on.

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    Re: 38 year olds success. I’m a Rams fan. Mcvay is 31 and completely changed our teams mentality and attitude in 4 months. Sometimes being able to relate is the key in communication. That hire took some balls but Mcvay was too impressive to pass up. Hoping a simililar scenario plays out with Smith.

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    According to USA Today Smith’s salary in 2016 was ~$440K.

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    5 year deal

    https://twitter.com/petethamel/status/935986324590428162

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      Cool. Glad this is over. Now steal some good recruits, hire recruiters, get Heyward, and keep Petras.

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        When’s the press conference?

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        An offensive coordinator going to steal recruits? From what program? Idaho? This is a train wreck in the making. I hope I’m wrong but hiring a guy w/out any previous HC experience to deal with this dumpster fire is asking way too much. Completely and utterly underwhelmed over this hire. JS’s offense at WA this past season was underwhelming too. What a fucking mess Scott Barnes and GA have made of this program. Duck fans are probably still laughing their asses off after the 69-10 ass whooping and now Barnes just gave them a reason to have a real sausage fest in Eugene. Beavs get fucked again and it won’t be JS’s fault.

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    I have shared season tix with another family since 1992. Just texted them and told them I am out for next year. I don’t see any scenario where Smith is consistently winning games against Petersen, Leach, Shaw, Taggart, Kelly, etc. REALLY disappointing. He is not seasoned enough to turn a mess this big around.

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      Totally agree. I hope we’re both wrong, but asking him to take over and fix this is like electing the Trump to be President….an effing train wreck that sets JS up for failure. Can’t wait to see us play tOSU opening game next year….what 85-3. Fuck, fuck, fuck….after the 69-10 ass whooping Beav Nation endured and now this. How and the fuck is JS a better candidate than Beau Baldwin who had great offenses, great QBs, won a national title at FCS level, could have taken his entire EW coaching staff with him to OSU…..fuck, fuck, fuck! I like JS too, but he’s just not ready to put the fire out on this shit storm of a football program.

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        Why would you expect an fcs coach with 1 NC to do better then an OC who was in the fbs playoff? Craig Bohl at Wyoming has won several NC’s in fcs and is an upper middling program in the mountain west. Baldwin is running the same offense at cal as dykes was and did no better then dykes at running it, it was Cals defense that won their games this year.
        And if the rumors are true that Baldwin’s agent leaked the info about him going to OSU(which by the way I asked if this might be the case on 2 occasions) then fuck him.

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          They weren’t in the playoffs because of their offense. Hire UW’s damn DC if that’s the criteria.

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            They gave up 5 yards per play on defense and a 320 yard per game average. How is that a good defense? They gained 460 a game on a 7 yard average on offense.

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    I’m completely underwhelmed on this hire. I mean you’re asking someone w/out HC experience to resurrect this dumpster fire and assemble a coaching staff before the 12/20 early signing period. Barnes you completely fucked up this hire when you passed over Beau Baldwin who actually wanted the job. I hope I’m wrong. I hope JS does great things, but I doubt it. If the Beavs were coming off of a 5-7 or even 4-8 season, then I would be a little more optimistic. But let’s be real….you’re asking him to make this program respectable again when it’s one of the worst 2 or 3 FBS programs in the entire country. I don’t know who JS expects he can bring in as an OC, DC, LBC, Secondary Coach, etc. in such a short period of time that will help turn this thing around.

    In the aftermath of a 69-10 ass whooping by the Schmucks and now this…..I feel like Beaver Nation has been sucker punched again. Don’t get me wrong, I liked JS when he was the QB, but turning the keys over to coach this shit storm is asking way too much of this kid w/out any HC experience.

    Barnes should be fired immediately..

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      Well, the donors seem to like him, so hopefully we have the money to get fantastic coordinators, because that’s what it’s going to take to succeed. Great recruiting, great coaches at every position.

      > I hope JS does great things, but I doubt it.

      That’s sort of where I’m at too.

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        Dont forget that donors loved Mike Riley too….

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          >Dont forget that donors loved Mike Riley too….

          Riley v2.0 wasn’t particularly well liked. A lot of donors sat on the sidelines for most of his career here.

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          Bullshit, they wanted him gone in 2010 and BDC wouldn’t do it.

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    UW fans sure seem over the moon ecstatic about this possibly happening…
    http://forum.hardcorehusky.com/discussion/44179/jonathan-smith-is-beavers-head-coach

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      Who cares

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        I don’t but it was shared with me and I thought it was mildly interesting, so I thought I would share here.

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          They also think Browning is a terrible QB. They dont know what terrible QB is.

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            Maybe Niner should check to see if Browning is a grad transfer candidate.

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          LOL this only proves that every fan base everywhere hates their offensive coordinator. We (team by birth) were giddy when Mcelwain left Bama and he orchestrated 2 national championships.

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      Lowest score this year was 30. One of the highest scores 60 something.

      I’ll take the average result. It would have beaten a few teams this year.

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        They scored 7 against ASU and 22 against Furd.

        But to be fair, they could have scored 150 against us.

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    What is Greaves talking about here: https://twitter.com/MarcusGreaves_/status/935986711888146433

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      referring to GA, not Smith

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        He’s referring to both. It’s the professional thing to do.

        And guess what, there’s going to be attrition. Some of those kids will go on to be successful. And we’ll hopefully hear none of the bellyaching we did this go around.

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    Smith should hire former head coaches (not named Riley or Erickson) to be his coordinators. They’d help with some of the hc burden and transition.

    Bielema would be a good DC candidate. Sumlin! Would be a great OC.

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    More disappointments coming as Nall declares, “I’d like to thank OSU…..I’m transferring to Stanford.” Isaiah Smalls, “I’d like to thank OSU for offering me, but I’m going to reopen my recruitment.” Spencer Petras, “I’d like to thank OSU for offering me, but….” and so on and so forth….I can’t imagine any of these verbals and current players will be overwhelmed with the JS hire. This is going to be an efffing nightmare….I’m beginning to wonder if Barnes wasn’t a plant by Phil Knight to complete destroy the Beaver football program. I’ve been a Beaver fan for over 40 years and this is the low point of being a Beaver fan. I like JS but there’s just no way in hell he is ready to take over this dumpster fire….unless he’s a freaking miracle worker. If it turns out I’m wrong, I’ll be the first to admit it but IMO this isn’t going to be pretty anytime soon. It’s like electing a reality TV program host to be President….oh, we’ve done that already too and that’s working out ohhh so nice…..fuck!

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    Memory lane…

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      thanks for the link.

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      And what a memory it was! Got the wife to reluctantly go to the game with me – not quite the ‘surprise for New Years’ she had in mind when I broke it to her where we were headed – but wth – this was the next best thing to going to the Rose Bowl and playing Note Dame was just icing on the cake. Their fans treated the whole affair like a ‘business meeting’ and were pretty arrogant going in – I think they thought it was going to be blow out – on their part.

      The stadium is below the flight path of the PHX airport and midway through the 3rd qtr planes started going overhead. Several comments were made about ‘Notre Dame fans heading back to South Bend’. I loved seeing our older Beaver fans with walkers and canes making it up to the very top of Sun Devil Stadium to watch the best game the Beavers ever played. Yeah, I guess I can get behind JS!

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    So in essence OSU hired their Scott Frost. Minus the NC and the head coaching experience.
    This will either be a spectacular success or an epic failure.
    Hopefully he can get the donors to pony up $ for the Reser.

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    At my age, my memory lane is as blank as your post.

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    which now doesn’t make sense you loaded the Fiesta bowl link.

    But I was at that game…good times.

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    Speaking with my Husky friend, he thinks Smith might bring the UW backup, Carta-Samuels, to OSU as he’s eligible for grad transfer. Buddy thinks pretty highly of Samuels.

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    W.R.T. Smith’s OC abilities: Hopefully that doesn’t mean much one way or the other because he’s now the HC and the OC duties will be someone else’s responsibility.

    Competent coordinators who can recruit have to be brought in.

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      This might get a fuck load of down votes but what about Helfrich as OC? I think the HC deal was too much for him, but he seemed to do really well as an OC.

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        I wish I was knowledgeable enough to answer your question but I don’t have a clue except to note that to me it seemed like Helfrich had a lot of talent to work with so that might have made him look better than he actually was.

        It would be interesting to know if he was ever OC in a situation where the talent was,,,,,, (can I say lacking) with respect to their competition.

        Also does he have a history as being a good recruiter at schools other than uo?

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          Talent was better and i think recruiting was his biggest knock at hole, other then going for 2 80000 times in a row.

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        Don’t think that’s a fuck load…let me consult the International Bureau of Weights and Measurements though…At the least it doesn’t appear to be a Metric Fuck Load.

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          I think it is just slightly less than a shit-ton – we had this exact discussion in our office.

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    a few thoughts. Like Angry said above, I’m glad it’s over. For those who think it couldn’t be worse, imagine if Barnes spent the next two weeks chasing his tail looking for a coach as everyone turned him down only to turn to Smith as an alum in a distress call, who then out of loyalty takes the job after every other vacancy has been filled and the early signing period looming.

    I guess the word that describes my attitude is “agnostic.” I don’t have a sense that JS will likely be successful, or unsuccessful. It does seem to me to be a hire one step ahead of time. Barnes needed to stop the bleeding, and in the very short term Smith could accomplish these goals: (1) keep Petras; (2) get some of the old donors enthused; (3) stem the the losses in season ticket sales (though likely any coach could have helped in that regard). Smith does have the advantage of being able to tap into the “you can be successful at OSU; I’ve done it” trope. That could help with recruiting. Speaking of which, I think his tenure at UW can help at the margin in the state of Washington. We have no way of knowing, but you have to think (hope?) that he paid close attention to how Peterson ran the program up there. They seemed to take a disciplined approach to coaching. One anecdote in that regard: at the game in Corvallis in September, during the first half (when the game was still competitive in a nominal sense) there was a timeout called. I noticed the OSU bench was “crickets.” No conversation, no animation, no nothing. Looking across the field to the UW sideline, every area group immediately went into a circle (one for offense, one for defense, and I presume one for special teams) in the center of which was a coach holding forth. Truth be told, I’ve rarely seen that happen on the OSU sideline at any point. Yes, it’s true, Husky fan is non-plussed by his departure, if not deliriously happy, but really, how much is there to complain about: 5 losses in two years? How much better or more convincingly did UW need to play on offense the past three years? It’s not as if those people had to deal with Langsdorf-level frustration.

    Bottom line: I’ll renew my donation and ticket purchase for 2018, and may even go to Columbus, but I’m definitely in a “show me” mode. Assistant coach selections could change that meter reading.

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    Tennessee onto their 5th choice and they may not even get him…

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      Each week different delusional Tennessee fans should get to coach their games, and they can all go on twitter and express their disapproval…

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        They could be like Jeopardy!.

        If they win, they get to come back for the next game.

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    Eggers is going to be on Portland sports radio 1080am in about 5 minutes:

    http://v6.player.abacast.net/2148

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    Yuck. He really gives me the Helfrich vibe. I don’t see him as the face of the program with an ability to attract talented staff and recruits. Basically the opposite of Scott Frost.

    Offense-wise, I don’t know. The relationship between Petersen, Smith, and the offense is similar to Kelly and Helfrich at UO, or Whittingham, Sitake, and the Utah defense. It is tough to figure out how much credit to give to the coordinator. UW defense is what is impressive, and not due to Petersen. Hire the damn D coordinator.

    In a way, this is good for me. Now I won’t even bother getting my hopes up for the Beavers and have even less reason to watch football next year.

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    I like that everyone hates the hire. Everyone loved the GA hire. Good omen.

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      Contrast bias?!?

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      I think most people are apathetic. It seemed like Barnes took the easy way out. A respected alum hire buys some cover and time. The media will go easy on him for a while.

      Can’t hate Smith as a person and what he did for the program as a player but lots of questions of if he’s ready to handle this role. Cynical view might say Barnes set him up for failure.

      I’d say his biggest challenge will be the off season stuff. Making sure the players stay out of trouble and stay on track in school.

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    Fuckin’ A they’re already talking about Riley coming back in some capacity. FUCK

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    S-I’s blurb on the Smith hire:

    “In 2016, Smith’s offense set Washington records with 77 total touchdowns and 585 points, averaging 41.8 points per game, tops in the Pac-12 and eighth in the nation. This year, the Huskies sit second in the Pac-12 in scoring despite having an assortment of injuries to key offensive players.”

    It would be nice if somebody asked him some questions about his actual role and authorities as OC and how what he learned will inform his approach to offense at OSU. How directly involved in the offense will he be?

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      Depends on his OC choice and staff structure. He’ll be very involved during the offseason and camp. He’ll establish the philosophy he wants and let the OC take it from there.

      But if he’s the hc, it’s hard to see him calling plays himself.

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    I’d like to see Smith contact Ryan Day about the OC job….he’s not an OC, but a co-offensive coordinator and QB coach. Funny, he was Kelly’s QB at NH. Has worked with Kelly in the NFL.

    Don’t over do the Beaver nepotism/bringing back the band…need to have some influx out external experiences and ideas.

    http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ryan_day_1035413.html

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    Oh yeah, bring back Riley, he can teach JS how to chew gum and have a shit eating grin on his face as his team is getting demolished.

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      Golly, ya see it’s all about balance. You want just the right amount of grin, or you’ll bite your tongue while chewing. It’s a tough skill to build, but I’ll coach ’em up the right way.

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    Let’s hear who Smith can poach from Washington.

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    Heyward will be asked to join the staff (taggart to FSU and he’s not taking KH with) – not sure at what capacity yet…

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      Taggart to FSU? Says who?

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        Speculative based on Jimbo Fisher accepting A&M job. Article in Oregon live today. Read where tagger apparently said FSU would be his dream job…we can only hope and that way he’d take all of those recruits with him and then we could listen to duck fans whimper and whine.

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    So let’s play hypotheticals.
    If Riley somehow ends up on this staff in some capacity, would we be open to Keith Williams as WR coach?
    Upside: Great recruiter, knows California recruiting and did well there while at Nebraska.

    Downside: Has multiple DUIIs on his record

    I have no idea how he is as an actual coach, which is kindof important

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    Very nervous and underwhelmed on this hire. Trying to talk myself into it.

    JS has learned from two of the best in Erickson and Petersen, and he has D1-FBS level experience. He’s also not a retread.

    :-/

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    Just what I figured: Smith very good with QBs

    https://247sports.com/college/oregon-state/Article/How-is-new-Oregon-State-football-coach-Jonathan-Smith-as-a-recruiter-111396133

    Hopefully he sees that Luton sucks and asks him to transfer.

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      Agreed….luton was horrible.

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      Honestly, if all he does is gets a good QB commit every year in recruiting that’ll be huge.

      I think he keeps the 2 current commits and who knows, maybe adds a third, they need the depth.

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      Duh

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    Jim Mora for DC?

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    Whittingham ready to take his buddy GA into his loving arms…

    https://twitter.com/sltrib/status/936013693850177541

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      Is Whittingham running a football program or an AA meeting?

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      Fuck Whittingham and GA…both cut from the same cloth. I hope we clean house of anything to do with GA. Easily the darkest period of Beaver football ever.

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      Whittingham wants to put himself on the hot seat. Interesting!

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    We should have been 0-12 this year. Really can’t go anywhere but up from here.

    I really like that Smith has been under Petersen for the last few years.

    Hire a young, energetic staff who can excite recruits and J Smith just may have a chance to turn this thing around.

    Again, when healthy we’re not that far off at a lot of positions on the field. Just need to the most important one.

    Smith has more to work with then Our record and on field play indicates. Keep Petras, get Evans qualified and add a grad transfer qb, and serious jumps could be made quickly.

    Better then a dumb retread. Need to make smart assistant choices.

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    “Jonathan needs enjoy being named head coach,” Riley said of potentially returning to Oregon State in some capacity. “If there’s a fit somewhere – coach or consult – yeah, that’d be awesome. But it has to be right fit for him.”

    Riley said he’s already receiving inquiries for coaching jobs. With teams allowing a tenth assistant, Riley said he wouldn’t mind being on a coaching staff as a secondary or quarterbacks coach.

    “I still feel young and have the energy to do it,” Riley said. He didn’t know if any NFL teams would reach out.

    http://www.omaha.com/huskers/mike-riley-headed-back-to-corvallis-open-to-coaching-in/article_0ce7fbdc-d565-11e7-87f7-a7e073a78ea6.html

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    The home-run hire for OC would be Kendal Briles from FAU. I hope Smith will reach out to him.

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    So Smith was a good recruiter while at UW. So what!!!

    Can he recruit to Corvallis, that’s the big question.

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      Sorry, I just read those excerpts about Riley before posting. Right now I’m thinking that if OSU brings that MF’ing riley back in any form it will be time for me to quit following the Beavs. And that’s after following the Beavs for many, many, many years.

      CRAP!!!

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        Dude! How old are you!?

        TwoOldBeavs

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          I was born in the 40’s and have memories of being with my folks in Corvallis when I was 4 or 5 and walking by a jewelry (?) store and they’d have a little display in the window showing the score of the most recent game. My dad used to listen to all the games that were on the radio. I don’t remember when I heard the first one but it was a long time ago.

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            So you watched the Prothro years? Nice.

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            @BB: Yes the Prothro years were very good. Great time to be a Beav fan.

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            Cool, so you saw a Rose Bowl.
            I always thought you were in your 40s.

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            I know a few of the guys from both the liberty and rose bowl teams.

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            Thanks M&S, I feel so much younger now.

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            oneoldbeav: I’ve often wondered how old “old” is but didn’t feel good about asking.

            So without being too nosy….. If I may ask…. younger or older?

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            @ angry: For some reason I have no memory of the ’57 Rose bowl game but I do remember the ’65 game. I was overseas and was in a movie theater on base when the score was announced and much to my chagrin the theater broke out in laughter.

            I was probably the only Beaver fan there.

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            also @angry: Perhaps now you might understand why I questioned someone who’s 70 having the energy needed to get this program back on its feet. Yes, he might be full of piss and vinegar but the energy supply just isn’t what it used to be. When I was 70 I was riding a road bike 3 times a week for 40 to 50 miles at about 4,500 feet elevation without stopping (and it wasn’t flat) but at the end of that ride I was pretty much wiped out. No gas left in the tank.

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            @Mud&Sticks. You have my favorite avatar pic on the site. The yellow bikini has a fantastic ass!

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            @M&S…….younger, but not by much!

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            And you still throw a mean F bomb, too!

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            I’m slightly younger, too.

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        You’re my dad’s age, he was at the giant killers game against USC.

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          I was in Navigation School in the Navy and watched the game on TV in the barracks in San Diego.

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        And I think you’re the guy that cussed me out a few years ago because you thought I was a troll from Pure Orange! Ha!

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          @GWH: If you comment is towards me I think you’ve got the wrong guy. I used to hang out at pure orange but have no recollection of “cussing” anyone out. That’s not my usual modus operandi.

          I did find the rah-rah bull shit attitude of some of the pure-orange folks to be rather “irritating”. They were all over folks like stink on shit whenever someone said anything that they thought was “out of line” w.r.t. OSU athletics. O.S.U. could no wrong in their minds.

          Now if I did cuss you out…… sorry about that.

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            I’ve never been on the pure orange site. In fact I didn’t know what you meant by “PO” when you (if it was you) were giving me the business. Anyway, I don’t want to throat punch you anymore so it’s all good.

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    Rose Bowl next year!!! Book it!! Great Hire!

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    Is it just me, or does JS look like a hobbit?

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      My opinion: make fun of people for things that are in their control. Looks doesn’t fit the bill.

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        Who said I was making fun of him?

        One of the lessons to be learned from Moneyball: just because a guy has “the look” doesn’t mean he has quality.

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        Except when it comes to Barnes’ punchable face?

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          Those who live in glass houses… I think Angry missed that lesson.

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          Saying someone has a punchable face isn’t the same as calling them a hobbit.
          Seth Collins has a punchable, douche face, but he’s beautiful. Calling someone a hobbit is calling them ugly.

          Barnes and Collins both have something to do with how they act, too, which is in their control.

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            I think saying someone has a douche face is probably worse than saying someone looks like a hobbit.

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            Elijah Wood looks like a hobbit and plenty of women find him attractive (or used to, anyway. It’s been a while since LOTR.)

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            Again, not sure where you learned your early life lessons… you’re saying Barnes and Collins can control what there face looks like?

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      He looks a bit like Johnny Manziel to me.

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      Hobbits saved Middle Earth Damit! If he can rescue OSU Frodo style, I’ll take it! Lol

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        It’s going to take the right Fellowship to save this kingdom.

        DE as Gandalf the Gray?

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        Lol! I was gandalf the white for Halloween a few years ago. You would be surprised how many chicks dig that kind of thing. Got some good treats that year!

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      Put some coke-bottle specs and 20 years on him.

      Voila!

      Joe Pa West.

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    Like alot of others in here I’m meh on this hire. It’s gonna depend on his hires for coordinators and assistants. I would like to see Erickson on staff(but not a total requirement) just because of his HC experience. Smith is going to need help getting this thing turned around. Hopefully the donors wallets will open and Reser stadium gets finished soon.

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    Hire feels opening your big Xmas gift and finding a pair of socks.

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    Is it weird if I might be okay with Riley as a QB coach? I wouldn’t want him as an OC or anything more than something like QB coach though.

    Am I taking crazy pills? I definitely also see the arguments for keeping him away from any on the field roles. Maybe give him a title and roll him out at events like they do former presidents and such.

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      Yes, choke yourself.

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      Nope, he knows how to coach a QB, only irrational hatred would make you unwilling to consider the possibility.

      I prefer Erickson to be on staff but as long as Banker isn’t the DC and Cavanaugh isn’t OL coach I won’t be upset with him bringing back just about any of his old coaches

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        His QBs here we’re statue like in there mobility, just saying

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          And the most statuesque is still playing in the NFL.

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            Playing is a relative term.

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            I could care less about the NFL & QB success there. I care about QB success on the Beavers college team. Success in college doesn’t equate to success in the NFL…

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            You can’t be successful in the NFL, but not be a good college QB, though.

            I think we would all take DA and Moore back at this point.

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            I’ve never seen a guy go from bad college QB to good NFL QB. The fact that DA is still collecting large paychecks in the NFL means that his statue like mobility means little in the right system. Every since Gary wanted QB’s who use their legs… we went from DA, Moore, Canfield, Mannion, 4 guys who went to the NFL, to Nick Mitchell, McMangryion, etc…. I think we’d all happily go back to Riley’s QB’s

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        Yeah fuck that. Wasn’t Langs the QB coach anyway?

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      He’d be great as a QB coach. Somewhere else…

      The problem is we must disconnect from him permanently, else there will always be the specter of him over the program and some in the fanbase who want him should Smith struggle. Big big big no. Erickson would be fine as QB coach.

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        Yeah. Beaver Nation was sold a reunion of Smith and Erickson and we better get it. Riley can take a token job in Athletic Dept if he wants 150K bad enough or can do like what crowton did where he watches some practices and gives a few insights. That’ it though. Otherwise should just retire. Has millions. Enjoy life and do a few functions at OSU.

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        I’m speculating, but my guess is DE is a little pissed he didn’t get the HC job. I doubt he will have much to do with the program despite any of his “feel good” comments today. He retired from Utah after going the assistant route for a few years, I doubt he wants to do that again. He wanted the OSU HC job and then hand it over.

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          Did he even apply?

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            Yes he sent Barnes a letter with a plan laid out on how to get the program turned around, who he would target as coaches, and an aggressive plan for recruiting. I know one of the people who helped him draft the plan. They got the word out to ex-players from all generations to gauge intrest in backing the plan and send Barnes letters of support.

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            Formally, I don’t know. But I think he actually did reach out to Barnes as BB mentions above. Looks like Barnes passed. Personally, I’m disappointed, I thought it was a better plan than Smith as HC now.

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            Did he send the letter for himself, or was it a letter of recommendation for 9?

            I couldn’t tell with all the back and forth between DE/9 and 9/DE formations.

            I can see him skipping a round of golf to sit down and write the OSU AD a letter saying, “Hey! Don’t just glad hand the boosters and miss out on this kid because he’s an alum. I coached with him and know what he can do. I’ve talked to him, and he has a solid plan for what can work at OSU. And he’ll recruit more than the drinks cart.”

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    What Search Committe should have cost: $3000

    Actual Estimated Final Bill: $189,000

    Wonder if we’ll officially know. An agency hired interim at Ole Miss for $137K.

    Arkansas announced they are using DHR also. So far their fans aren’t excited with the names being floated. We’ll see how that ends. Would be pissed if they ended up with Miles using same agency for same money.

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    Who wants to start a search firm with me?

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    Dennis Erickson says he won’t be on Jonathan Smith’s @BeaverFootball staff: “i want him to do it himself. it’s his time. I had mine. I’ll advise him if he asks. I’ll do everything I can to help him. i’m certainly going to support the program and be around more. That’ll be fun.”

    https://twitter.com/kerryeggers/status/936089360969089025

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    SHHHIIIIIITTTT!!!!!

    DE WILL NOT BE ON STAFF. Small advisory role only.

    Dennis Erickson says he won’t be on Jonathan Smith’s @BeaverFootball staff: “i want him to do it himself. it’s his time. I had mine. I’ll advise him if he asks. I’ll do everything I can to help him. i’m certainly going to support the program and be around more. That’ll be fun.”

    THIS MEANS CANZANO’S INSISTENCE THAT EITHER DE OR RILEY WILL BE ON STAFF, LEAVES RILES DOING EVERYTHING TO GET A SPOT ON STAFF IN SOME FASHION.

    F*CK. Riley should have been the small advisory role. QB Coach here he comes. No avoiding him I guess. Damn.

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      Canzano was careful to say that he was hearing that DE or MR “might” be on the staff… So I’m guessing he played it up because it’s good radio.

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        Whole Erickson thing was heavily manipulated yesterday. It was done so to ease in Smith and make people think it would be the pair. In reality it was just to make Smith seem OK.

        “Don’t believe what you hear. And only half of what you see.” – Edgar Allen Poe

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        It’s not… good radio, that is.

        It’s speculative garbage.

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      Canzano sure got you hook line and sinker.

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    With Smith all I keep thinking about are those house parties where homie would get soooo drunk. He probably had the worst game ever but was always trying to talk to girls. LOL the stories those walls could tell!

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    Smith, Baldwin, and Hall are the only 3 people that formally interviewed for the job. Thst speaks volumes. Baldwin probably turned down the job, Hall was interviewed because he’s interim. So either none of the other coaches were contacted or none of them cared to interview. I guess we’re lucky JS wanted the job, otherwise we might be stuck with Hall.

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      Where did you hear that from?

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      How do u know that?

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        Per Moran in his latest article.

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          Article says they are the only ones known about, not the only ones. As in they are the only names that Moran has.

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            Yea defeatist attitudes there buddy.. we all know RN, Les Miles and Norton’s jr. We’re all interested in the gig. All pretty notable names. Stop playing yourself and selling OSU short.

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      and u believe moran? really….there were more

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        You guys are too funny. Bash me for quoting a media source then contradict it with no mention of a source of your own.

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          I get what your saying, but Barnes was flying in the jet all over the place earlier this week. I don’t think he’s flying into places to get told “no I don’t want to interview.” I think he only flys after speaking to coaches or agents on the phone and getting a “yes I’ll interview”.

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      How could Beauner turn down something never offered to him?

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    Anyone else get the vibe that if Taggart leaves Oregon, there’s likely some serious skeletons in the closet down there? We all suspect that they’ve been shady AF with regards to recruiting, but this would cement it even further in my mind that they’ve been up to no good.

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      They cheat, but he’d leave for FL State, and he’s a FL guy, so I’m not sure it proves anything.

      The proof of cheating is there if the media just looks.

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    I am proud to say with this new hire, teams will have to bring their D+ game, or they’ll get their butts kicked!

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      Wow what a clever joke.

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        Yes — I expect the Pres has regretted that comment many times. I guess it comes under that old saying that explains so many things over the years…”It seemed like a good idea at the time.”

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    Depending on the coordinators, I’m actually okay with this. I think he has a higher ceiling than Baldwin (although Baldwin definitely has a higher floor), and I’m excited to see who he’ll pick for the assistant coach positions.

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    Oh, and it looks like FootballScoop = fake news after all. Trust in Eggers?

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      Anybody with a functioning brain could plainly see that footballscoop is footballpoop clickbait garbage, and that they either make up shit and claim “sources” or regurgitate anonymous internet rumors like they’re real.

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        That’s not true.

        They also take stories reported by serious bloggers around the country, vett them and report them as their own a lot.

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    Do you guys really think FSU would hire Taggart? That’s a program that could have just about anyone. They’re not going to hire some shady guy with a limited track record just because he really wants the job.

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      A limited track record, that wants the job and just recruited an upper tier class, to Oregon.

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        But recruiting to certain places is almost a given. FSU knows they’re always going to get upper tier classes.

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    Did y’all listen to Kenny Simonton on Rip City Radio yesterday?

    Niner is gonna have a lot of support from former Beavs. The vision is to build from the ground up with guys who are invested in Beaver Nation. It’s gonna take a while maybe to see results, but it’s the right way to build it, imo.

    Now I want Heyward and retain Hall.

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      Its great that former, high-performing players want some role. I’ll be curious to see what roles they take, how effective they are. Not being negative, but just because somebody was a good player doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll be an effective coach, recruiter, or fund raiser.

      I’d also be nice to see some more recent players stop in to see the players, like Brandin Cooks, Rodgers Bros, Terron Ward…I think Cooks and Rodgers attended a few games recently?

      Also, I still think its important to bring in some outside perspectives and not over do a “Beaver All Stars” staff. Will certainly be interesting to see what Smith does in filling out his coaching staff.

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      If Heyward and Hall worked together we’d know that at least our Secondary would at least do their jobs pretty well. Throw in Breckterfield/ Bray and you’d have some good recruiters and minds to develop a good defense.

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    Euhus had some things to say in Eggers latest column too.

    “Jonathan is somebody Beaver Nation can rally around,” Euhus says. “We need somebody to rally around at this point in time.

    “Many of the former players felt disconnected from Gary (Andersen). I see Jonathan being able to get the alumni involved again at a high level, because he’s one of us. I got 10 texts today from former teammates who are all excited. Hopefully, that disconnect is gone and Jonathan is able to bridge that.

    “What should feel like home to every former player no longer felt like home. Jonathan will make it feel like home again. He’ll re-engage the alumni.”

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      Nailed it. GA seemed engaged with the alumni during the first 6 months of his time here…… then almost nothing.

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    How about Dan Hawkins as OC?

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    Inoke worked with 9 at Montana. Don’t discount that connection.

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      But he already has a job with a better team. Unless he’s best friends with JS, I don’t see what makes the move attractive. I highly doubt we can pay more than UW.

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        Unless he likes the state of Oregon more than Wisconsin, which isn’t hard to imagine. Especially if he has family in Oregon(?).

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        Really depends on how affordable Jonathan Smith’s contract is to us. We have 9 million of GA money to promise our Assistants, plus another 1 million for the Ohio State Massacre we have coming up (though I hope to God we bitch out of that game just like they would do for coming to our field)

        And I really think that this move is somewhat heavily motivated by donors who were in Camp Erickson. I think we might find that Oregon State finds a way to pony up the dough.

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          OSU is reportedly 1.5

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            That’s on the high side of his fair range, but still fair. We have another $1.1-1.2 to add to the difference from GA’s wage if they choose to look at that as an investment instead of offset the losses from the prior staff. Even with the offset, GA did expand the assistant pool quite a bit. So we’re fairly competitive as is, especially if we can tug some heartstrings for a couple years of building with moderate wages for a potential payday.

            There’s also a lot of value in assistants who show marked turnarounds at troubled programs. So that should play in our favor as well.

            I wasn’t in favor of allowing DE back, except that at least his O fits our school. But would he be against taking a position where he could coordinate or even recruit the Jucos for us? That’s where I see him having the most value now.

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            $1.7 million, I heard

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            That’s too much, unless you’re talking total compensation… which I would think could be higher given a surprise outcome. Is that a guaranteed base?

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    I would hope that Smith already has several assisstants lined up and ready to be announced. He’s had plenty of time to prep for this moment. Dont know that he would have been hired without a pretty clear plan amd level of commitment from key support staff.

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      I’m sure he has a list. if he wanted to be a hc in the past, he’d create a list of who he wanted already. Wouldn’t guarantee any one person though.

      First people he’ll need to hire are the coordinators. Not sure how fast he could get that done. I’d say it would take at least a week or two. The rest of the staff will prob be hired after the initial signing period.

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    I like Casey’s assessment of Smith. Hopefully confirms my suspicion that Smith is not the “walk-on underdog-type,” but just a fierce competitor.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/beaverfootball?lang=en

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    Just doing a quick look around, it seems that under 40 head coaches seem to be doing ok. Some like Riley and Fuentes stepped into fairly stable situations. Norvell is continuing Fuentes success at Memphis. As far as I can see, none have turned their program into garbage.

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    I watched a few of Smith’s past interviews last night. For some reason I keep thinking of Michael J Fox when I watch him. Lot’s of similarities.

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    So now that Smith is coach, what to do with the current commitments.

    Sounds like Petras is still on board. I’d ditch Dukart and try to get yankoff to flip. That would be a nice start to his tenure.

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      Pulling offers is not a good look to start out, especially for local guys. Dukart should stay anyway, since he is a football/baseball guy. There has to be a role for him on one of the 2 teams. Dont want to burn bridges with Lake Oswego either.

      I think all offers will be honored. If theyre bad offers, blame Hall/GA/Barnes. Don’t expect Smith to be the bad guy from day 1

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        Also, Dukart is a good enough athlete to play another position if needed. Yankoff could still make sense.

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          Smith should not just give away these offers. He needs to see if the current commits going to make the program better. Recruits will understand that a new coach will look at them differently. As long as Smith communicates with the recruit why they pulled the offer, I don’t see it as a bad thing.

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        I liked issaquahbeav’s suggestion that carts-samuels might be eligible for grad-transfer.

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      I like the current commits. I think this values Smalls even more if we go to an O that values a real TE. He has the skills to be one. If Togiai ever learned how to block and catch consistently well, he could thrive.

      I like the group Hall brought in. I see an eye for both talent and potential in Hall as a recruiter. Half of most demographics wash out. But the numbers turn in your favor when you expand your local roster enough to dominate the locker room and set the identity of the team.

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      No, you honor every offer and add more. Guys will leave the program, they have plenty of room to add another handful of people. Don’t pull offers especially if a guy is committed. And honestly, getting 3 QBs wouldn’t be the end of the world.

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    Funny, Dennis Erickson just accepted my friend request on Facebook. We’re buddies now

    • ObjCriticBet you’re buying! Bet you’re buying!
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      Bet you’re buying!

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      are you sure you have the right DE? cos’ the Prez can’t even tweet the correct British Prime Minister

      Just sayin’

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    I think Smith’s age and background will help him connect with recruits and players. Couple that with the support and endorsements he’ll get from a bunch of high-profile ex Beavs, and this may be the beginning of something great. Even if it’s a slow but steady and long term build of the program, I’ll take that over a quick 3-year stint and a Bowl game, then a quick return to the bottom.

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      You can end up with that anyway. Ferentz holds on to his job because his system allows for him to every now and then make a run and get to a NYD bowl. If you look at his pattern, it’s NYD bowl followed by decreasing bowls for two years then a rebuild year followed by two increasing bowls and another NYD bowl.

      Dude’s like clockwork.

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      Especially if he can arrange current/relevant alumni to make well timed appearances.

      “I visited hole and there was a room full of shoes”

      “I visited Oregon State and there was Brandin Cooks”

      Difference?

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    Presser on youtube : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGAWOcv5I3s

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    Ed Ray with the whole A game speech just sounds so hollow

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      Cringe worthy. Couldn’t believe he repeated it.

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      Ed Ray has no understanding of sports. He tries to pretend he does and he comes across like an awkward, nerdy kid trying to talk to a hot girl. I don’t think he actually knows what an “A-Game” is. He needs to give up on the rah rah speeches and just stick talking about how he’s going to support the coaches and the team.

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    Coach Smith is winning me over. Great poise. Genuine emotion. Way better presence than I expected.

    “This is my dream job, at my dream school, in my dream town.”

    I believe him. It’s up to him now to keep my trust and hopes.

    Brick by brick.

    ~GWH

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    Smith did very well, Ray embarrassing bureaucrat with no wit, Barnes annoying but Barnes’ grade goes up a bit based on the hire and Smith’s potential. I feared Barnes would make a poor, unjustifiable hire.

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    Missed the first 30 minutes of the presser. Damn. Please post replay link.
    So far he’s great. Media strikes out again when saying his demeanor is awful.

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      His opening comments were pretty sincere and passionate. Barnes and Ray come off as goofy and mailing it in

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      Who said him demeanor was awful?

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        Machado, Sprague, etc. Many said he was boring and monotone like Peterson. He isn’t really anything like that. He’s all business but in a good way and has some personality.

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          Are you talking Petersen?

          He’s anything but boring and monotone. He’s matter of fact. He doesn’t need to dictate prose to reporters. That’s not his job.

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    I like that he’s focused on culture. So important.
    Matches my tweet from this morning:
    https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/936243264360931328

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    From the 5 minutes I’ve seen, Smith is going to be a huge upgrade over GA and the goons. Smart guy.

    Just said he’ll fit scheme to what they have. GA refused to do the obvious.

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      “Andersen is awesome. People wonder what I’ve wanted…well that guy is basically me if I were coach.” – angry

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        Yeah it’s been well-established that I, and everyone in the United States, was way wrong about GA.
        Must have said that a dozen times in the past 2 months.

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    Great comment by Smith about re-recruiting Seniors, Juniors, Sophs, etc, acknowledging that there are no “my guys” and “his guys”. So different than the previous regime.

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      So very true. GA was a complete scumbag when it came to this.

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        Yes, yes… because relationships are a one way street. If 9 benches players due to lack of effort or attitude, it’ll be because he’s a good head coach.

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    Has he said anything about being more receptive to feedback from AB yet?

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    Link to presser (again): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGAWOcv5I3s

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      Boss! You the man.

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      Uh…Ed Ray. Typical academic who just likes to hear himself talk.

      Edit: Lol at “bring A game” line AGAIN!

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        They could have put a cardboard cutout of Ed’s likeness at the table and it would have been more effective – I don’t think he added much to the presser.

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    I wonder how Tennessee is doing in their coaching search.

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    https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/936322445199360000

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    Everyone always says we need a good recruiter at OSU. I wonder how much being good at recruiting to one school carries over to the next. Like Taggart is good at recruiting to UofO because he sells the flash. I wonder if he could recruit to a place like OSU that doesn’t have flash to sell. Smith isn’t selling flash, his personality is more in line with what OSU is selling, makes me think he could optimize the kind of athletes OSU can get. Of course a suitcase full of cash probably sells the best.

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      Cash is always king.

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      He would put a throne in the VFC that would be neither pretentious nor corny.

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      Cash is king; but student athletes (and their families) do value other aspects of university life.

      Coach Smith mentioned some of these specifically (stadium located physically on the campus, ease of access to training facilities) in conjunction with the football program.

      Oregon State can never claim to have the biggest stadium, or the wealthiest boosters, or the most up-to-date training facilities, but it does have unique aspects worth promoting properly.

      Also, it was big for me that he mentioned wanting to bring in former alumni who either had been successful on the field (NFL, college coaching, etc) or off in establishing a sense of culture. I never understood why this resource was so underutilized?

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        Because coaching is an old boys’ club.

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        It’s because coaches want to leave the past in the past and start their own “dynasty” not realizing that the past is where the support comes from weather it’s players or alumni. It’s a dumb move. Look at all the delusional fan bases around the country Nebraska comes to mind, once a hard nosed smash mouth team reduced to passing 70% of the time. Part of that is the coach they hire, part of it is loss of identity (smash mouth football). They then lose support because it’s not the type of teams they remember. We remember a balanced attack that Riley started and Erickson continued, then Riley returned and slowly the pass happy BS took over. Identity lost.

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    Coach Smith strikes me as persuasive when he focuses on his ideas & vision of what he wants to do.

    Time for him to start spending his currency.

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    I like that Barnes said they’re going to open the purse strings for assistants. Sounds like Smith can get anyone he wants

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      That has to do with boosters and people in general rallying behind him with the $ that they’ve been holding onto to donate to the right coach to get the right staff.

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    I know what I’m going to be watching tonight:

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      Might be informative to watch some of UWs offense this year and see if there’s merit to the fans’ complaints about Smith that so many here have referenced.

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        Smith said he’s not going to call the plays which I think was their main complaint.

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      You never get tired of watching this game!

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    Everything we’ve seen from Smith this morning REALLY makes me hope he diesn’t Give Riley any significant role. Though he’s part of Smith context and past, I don’t think he adds to the culture Smith is talking about creating.

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    This is a quarterback league, and it’s a relief to know we now have a HC who was a QB in this league and will know what it takes to get a legit QB. That is a huge perk. Doubt we ever have to worry about QB position again (after maybe next year if they keep Luton around). QB and culture. If you look at any good program or winning NFL organization it’s always (a) a legit QB and (b) a no-nonsense/business culture. Smith seems to get that. GA, when he came on, said all the right things, but I wrote early on “the only way I see him failing is if he doesn’t get a QB”, and sure enough that’s why he failed. He also created a culture of mayhem by the end, though I think to start out his culture was pretty good.

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      Getting a legit QB on board also helps in recruiting other positions…

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      Being that you don’t want Luton back… Who would be the starter at QB that provides an upgrade?

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        Dukart is local, so we will keep him as a target recruit. Jonathan Smith will definitely recruit local and work his way out from there as he stated in his presser, “We will be driving to recruits more than flying to start off with in recruiting.” you have to be able to recruit locally and build the relationships with the Oregon football coaches other than Lake Oswego, Tigard, Tualatin, Oregon City, et al.

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          No Dukart. He’s a legit 2 star qb. Just watch his film.

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            And a legit 2 star could develop into a starter or at least a legit back up. He’s also a good enough athlete to possible change positions. The offer should (and likely) will stand.

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        Petras? Dukart? A better grad transfer? Any of them would work.

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        Petras.

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          You’re saying Petras is the starter next year over Luton?

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            Reading comprehension.
            One word response.
            Appears to be a preference.
            No, he did’nt say that.

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            Thanks Pinger…. I asked who would be the startin qb. And yes, I got a one word response. Which I then attempted to clarify what he meant….

            Comprehend that

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        If Petras stays on I think he’s the QB of the future. I guess keep Dukart for the optics of being local but honestly if GA liked him as a QB prospect then I’m not sure I have any faith in him being Pac-12 quality

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      GA failed at everything not just QB evaluation. He assembled a bad staff, played players out of position, definitely played favorites, recruited shitty players or good players that would either go on a mission or just flat out not qualify at all etc etc…Honestly what was one thing he did that people liked? (I guess he got Peko through that summer yoga class he was struggling with) To me he was a total, complete failure all the way up to, and including, the way he left.

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        While we are piling on…he played mind games with players. He treated female reporters like third class citizens. He was an asshole to Average Joe Local who just wanted to see practice. He was closed off and moody to fellow staff from other programs.

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          He also peed in his neighbor’s flowers, kicked puppies and harbored a whole terrorist cell.

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            Don’t forget he tore the do not remove tags off his couch.

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          “Closed off and Moody” aren’t those the signs of a ‘closet’ drinker?

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      The Jaguars and Vikings are doing pretty good. But the NFL is probably a bit different than college in that aspect.

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        The way college works is you’re either in the SEC and recruit a defense made up entirely of future NFL draft picks or you need a QB

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    Some takeaways from the press conference,

    1. He wanted the job.
    2. He didn’t make any outlandish promises.
    3. Hall isn’t going to be part of the new staff.
    4. He knows what he getting into.
    5. Won’t be calling plays so now we’ll wait to see who’s playcalling we get to complain about.
    6. His coaching stops have all been with guys connected to the NW. I wonder how that’ll play into his hiring of assistants.

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      What part makes you think Hall isn’t coming back?
      Sounded like Smith hadn’t had that conversation yet.

      I wonder if Joe Salavea or Joe Seumalo would consider working for Smith. I know he wants to recruit locally and work his way outwards. Just think the Pacific Islands have beem pretty good to us over the years and would hope that continues.
      Does Seumalo have any more 5 star kids in high school?

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        Smith talked around the question of hall returning and hasn’t spoken to hall yet. Sounded like Smith had some candidates in mind already.

        And I think Smith will hire coordinators first and then let them have a say in the position coaches.

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        I got the same impression as did Bill, that Hall won’t be asked back. I say that simply because of the tone of JS’s response as well as his words. Just my gut.
        OTOH, short of an announced hiring, we should only expect a neutral response at this stage.

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          Interesting, I had the opposite read and think Smith is seriously considering keeping Hall on staff. IMO, keeping 1 guy from the old staff makes sense and for me that would be Hall.

          Interesting that we watched the same thing but got a different sense of what he was saying from it.

          Guess we will find out.

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      The word is that Hall pissed the administration off by his antics leading up, and during, the Civil War and they aren’t high on him anymore. I think a good house cleaning is in order, and unfortunately he prob should move on.
      I am still hopeful that they get rid of Guinta and Yray – huge liabilities.

      I cannot see Hall being retained…and honestly, we have some excellent former defensive back alumni that I’d rather see in his old role anyways. If some of the guys JS knew from his era don’t pan out, I know that one player that came after him might be a good fit: James Dockery wants to move up the coaching ranks badly, and he’s currently a coach. He also is heavily invested in So Cal and knows people and I think he could sell our program. He played in the NFL and knows what it takes to succeed. Right now he is head coach and assistant athletic director for a private prep school, Xavier, in So Cal.

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        “The word is that Hall pissed the administration off by his antics leading up, and during, the Civil War…”
        Not sure where you heard “the word” but I have no problem believing your assertion.

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          My problem would be that it’s not like the admin didn’t know what he was doing and didn’t have the power to counsel him in real time.

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        He would be one hell of a Graduate Assistant if he hasn’t done so already- but then again, he has been coaching, so maybe he would be a great hire at some point.

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      I really don’t want an all Beaver staff. Need some outside blood, I think, to keep the incestuous diseases away.

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        Amen to that.

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        I really would like some head coaching exp on the staff. Maybe one with rebuilding experience and another as the defensive coordinator. Smith will need to get a good d coordinator.

        Obviously not Riley or Erickson who both have really said no.

        I really think bielema would make a good d coordinator.

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          I doubt he will step back into a DC role unless it is a big brand school to rehabilitate his image.

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        The feeling I got from the presser is that he’ll have the Incest hires only if they make sense. 🙂

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        I actually agree with the sentiment of not an entire all former Beavs staff. I’d choose the ones who are proven as recruiters and well known in the coaching world: Keith Hayward and Trent Bray. Otherwise, I am curious what roles they fill respectively and who else he brings as the OC and DC if he doesn’t choose either of those guys for DC.

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    Curious to see if Jimmy Lake, the UW DB coach, emerges as a DC candidate. A Husky friend of mine was raving about him and worried he might by a HC candidate after GA left. Great recruiter and coach from what I’m told.

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      A dead opossum on hwy 34 could coach a better defensive game then what we had.

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        Hope that wasn’t touchdown possum.
        They killed TD POSSUM.
        NOOOOooooOOOOOOoooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

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    Tennessee has become the worst program in the nation.

    Turned down by their 6th choice. No one wants to touch it.

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      7th. I just turned them down.

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        I live in Tennessee and people are losing there minds. And alumni coworker was in an awful mood still believes Tennessee is a top 10 job

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          It is a top ten job. Top ten in the SEC. (OK maybe 11)

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          Well, they have some arguments there:
          1. 100k+ in a stadium for every home game.
          2. an airport
          3. The Smokies a half hour away
          4. #2 in revenues generated by an NCAA football program (I’m assuming public)
          5. facilities up the wazoo
          6. fans who care

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    The nice thing about JS is, that if he becomes a very successful coach and other programs come calling, I cannot see him leaving this school due to his emotional ties to it.

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    A good question by the media would be if he holds open or closed practices. I prefer the latter for game prep, but as a fan I can deduct a lot more from the open practice reports.

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      I’ve always seen closed practices as a way to set a serious tone. Maybe a single open practice per week is a good compromise.

      Of course, I also believe limiting the exposure of players to the press (via interviews) is an area where leaning toward too little exposure is best in setting the tone for the team.

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      Closed during the season to fans. It’s pretty standard for all programs. Only limited portion open to media.

      I’ll guess some fall and spring practices will be open.

      It was a nice perk but it’s not a critical item for fans.

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      What did Dennis Erickson do and Chris Peterson do? I’m sure JSmith will either do a mix of DE, CP, and MR when it comes to media access to players and open/closed practices. It’s only his first day. Let’s see what staff he puts together and how this staff recruits.

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        So he will slurp bourbon while chewing gum on a blue carpet.

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        I think Erickson’s practices were cage fights.

        Peterson closes practice during the season.

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    Caller to JoeBeav just now was coached as QB at BSU, his mention of JS being a guy who starts by teaching fundamentals is very encouraging.
    He specifically said he expects JS to see that his position coaches begin by evaluating/teaching fundamentals.

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      https://media.giphy.com/media/89x4osEodHEoo/200w.gif

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      I’m curious what kind of practice time is going to be allocated to conditioning and fundamentals of blocking and tackling?

      In what little I saw of the OSU/UW game this year, I was impressed when an OSU defender intercepted a pass, and UW’s back up tight end made a good open field tackle that too often OSU defenders seem NOT to make. It just looked like he’d had fundamentals drilled into him.

      In today’s NCAA, and defense such as it is, it seems like if you had very well conditioned athletes that blocked and tackled well, you could have simple schemes with different plays out of same or similar base sets, and have the advantage in most games. In contrast, OSU seems to have inconsistent blocking, poor to atrocious tackling, and complex schemes (Riley), “we tried to do too much” (Banker), or the wrong schemes for the available personnel (Andersen/McLovin).

      Of practice time, what do you guys suppose is allocated to:

      1) conditioning;
      2) fundamentals;
      3) schemes and game planning?

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    He should try to get Kellen Moore as his QB coach.

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    After seeing the press conference and thinking about this hire, I’m feeling a lot better and I have some hope for the future at this point.

    I think teams adopt the style, the personality of their coach. With Erickson, we were talented, sloppy, stupid at times, played with a ton of swagger, played up to better competition and bullied inferior opponents.

    Under Riley, we played smart in general, but would often get bullied around, played soft, overthought some things, played up or down to competition.

    Under Andersen, we were bipolar, schizophrenic, intense at times, incredibly stupid at times, filled with self loathing and mistrust of teammates.

    I feel like under Jonathan Smith, we’ll be smart, competitive and intense without acting stupid, we’ll play like the guys actually like each other.

    From the reaction of former players, they have a ton of respect for Smith, so hopefully the team follows his personality and plays smart, tough football and doesn’t act like a bunch of assholes and plays like they want to be here.

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      Dude spot on with the personality traits.

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        The beauty of it is that JS has learned from Chris Petersen and held integral positions on his staff. Petersen has an eye for spotting the right players for what he’s trying to do (OKGs) not just offering every 4 and 5 star kid in the country and hoping they commit, then hoping he can make them fit somehow.

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      Excellent comment.

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    If Andersen gets hired by Wittingham for some role, Utah at OSU is a game I want to attend under the Smith regime…Utah was already annoying, but if “The Bed Shitter n’ Quitter” is in the house, I want to be there. Mature, maybe not, but hopefully satisfying.