26.Nov.2017 General Thread

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Have at it.

What’s on my mind:

1. The coaching search.

2. I’m wonderer how much digital currencies like Bitcoin are helping the Ducks launder to recruits without any paper trail. Nobody covering sports has mentioned, to my knowledge, how these could be used in recruiting without a paper trail.

Go Beavs.

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  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver
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    GoBarnes!

  • goBeavers goBeavers
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    According to a source close to the situation, Oregon State assistants were not relieved of their duties today in their meeting with Scott Barnes, who told them OSU is looking to secure a head coach by early next week.— Danny Moran (@DannyJMoran) November 26, 2017

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      I guess Barnes is waiting to get told no by Kevin Sumlin? At least he has to try. Not sure why everyone needs to stay on for another week, Hall is already the interim. Moos sent everyone packing except Bray.

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        Exactly, keep Hall for now, ship everyone else out. No reason to keep them around.

        • goBeavers goBeavers
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          I honestly don’t care. Let the new coach make all those kinds of decisions. Hopefully he keeps no one.

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      Welcome to Oregon State. Where the culture is that it’s ok to lose as long as you tried your best (pats head).

      It’s ok that you just got grunge fucked by your rival who could’ve hung 90 on you. You tried. And this is why it continues to be a second rate football program. No one from the top of the food chain is committed to building a winning program, changing the culture to become one or even has a clue of the direction needed.

      Bunch of fucking candy asses.

      Dear Ed Ray and Scott Barnes,

      Fuck you!

      Signed,

      Every donor in Beaver nation you continue to attempt to steal money from by lying through your teeth.

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    Kevin Sumlin officially fired. Opportunity for OSU to shift the culture with another name that would do it. We’ll they even reach out? Doubt it. Oregon State administration is total bush.

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      More likely Sumlin would see OSU on caller ID and send it to voicemail while he waits to see if ASU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, or Arkansas call.

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    Is it possible that OSU floated the Baldwin story in hopes of pushing other guys to commit/interview?

    • Bill
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      No. The OSU job has zero leverage.

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      The leverage they have is that its an open job. There are only so many of those.

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        So we make ourselves a joke among the talent pool from which we want to supposedly leverage someone?

        Do you think the Friday night “leak” was a non-entity?

        It was huge. There was zero reason for any one of our players to take the field after that shit.

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      no

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    Now this from Oregon State: Assistant contracts will be honored through the end of their terms. They will be working from home and have been asked to leave their offices by Tuesday night. Cory Hall has the option to stay in his office in his role as interim head coach.— Danny Moran (@DannyJMoran) November 26, 2017

    So everyone except Hall is essentially gone? Not sure how long their contracts are though.

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      I thought they were all signed through next year…

      • goBeavers goBeavers
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        I assume that “clean out your office and work from home” basically means you’re not fired yet, but we don’t think you should be back and we’ll let the new head coach make the decision.

        Hall not having to move out though makes it seem like keeping Hall is going to be pushed pretty heavily.

        • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver
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          I agree. This is to give the new coach time to interview the current staff and assess who to keep on board, but also keeps the infighting around the offices to a minimum.

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        Are you shitting me? The Kevin’s and staff get to remotely logon each morning for another year and keep getting the same money playing Candycrush???

        This administration is seriously F’ed!

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          They have a contract through the end of the year. It doesn’t matter, they still get paid.

    • mckalk mckalk
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      Is that kind of saying, we’re paying you, but you’re not welcomed in person around the program? Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

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    Go Beavs!

    4:00 on espn3

    • Ostatebeavs87
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      We better give Manuel more minutes/a chance over JM… gotta see if we can get a lower TO rate from our PG play… KenPom is not friendly to JM…

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      0-5 Marist the opponent, rpi rank #317. Go Beavs. You got this one. Maybe.

      • mckalk mckalk
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        No so fast, says Texas Southern, Utah Valley St and numerous other directional colleges and assorted city schools. You want a P-12 notch on your belt, make sure to schedule Oregon St. for your non-conference schedule.

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        But the way they’ve been playing…maybe not!

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    I’m no phil knight fan, but i’m thankful i get to see both UNC/Mich. State and Duke/Florida tonight in person for cheaper than a Beaver football ticket

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    Maybe someone can teach me, but why exactly would we want Sumiln at Oregon State? He has been worsening each year at Texas A&M with good recruits, and why would he suddenly do any better at Oregon State? I’m just thinking someone like Baldwin who has a history of winning can do what it takes to win.

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    Per Canzano:

    Source: Oregon State AD Scott Barnes hopped on a plane today and is off to meet with a football coach candidate today.

    Feels to me like OSU is still interviewing despite the report on Friday night about it being a done deal.

    If you’re reading the tea leaves on timing of OSU AD being on that plane today… likely talking to a coach or two who wanted to wait until after the season ended. That = sitting head coach.

    https://twitter.com/johncanzanobft/status/934902736906108928

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      FootballPoop!

      • goBeavers goBeavers
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        Guess we shouldn’t have doubted Kerry Eggers after all.

        • Bill
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          https://flightaware.com/live/flight/PXT903

          Flight aware shows a flight from Corvallis to where? Oakland!

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            Must be Jack Del Rio, Barnes will get there just about the time the Raiders game ends. Del Rio can sign the OSU contract and resign in the locker room. Calling it, its so obvious.

          • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver
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            Yep, still seems like Baldwin. Timing is such because Barnes attended the Civil War yesterday and Beau was coaching on Friday

          • goBeavers goBeavers
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            Could also be Jeff Tedford.

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            Norton Jr?

          • Bill
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            While not impossible, in coaching searches, coaches and ADs do meet at airport so they don’t attract attention.

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            Fresno is 3 hours from Oakland, its not Tedford if he is in Oakland.

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            Brent Brennan!!!! Bringing him back.

          • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver
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            Norton seems like the next most likely interview, based on location.
            Also, Nigel Burton did mention a few weeks ago that OSU could potentially try to poach Wilcox and Baldwin together, so I guess that cant be counted out of the realm of possibilities.

            But I still think it comes back to Baldwin

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            A serious possibility, could be Mike Bloomgren, rumored to have interviewed. Still has a game left to play so not announcing yet could make sense.

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            Or Bloomgren?

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            Bloomgren has even less experience than Baldwin.
            I do like that he’d bring in a power run game and probably be no nonsense having learned under Shaw…but that’s about the only positives I see.

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            just checked. The same jet that carries around the football staff flew to OAK, chilled for 30 minutes, and landed 30 mins ago back in Corvallis. So either they dropped him off, refueled and came back empty, or he picked up Baldwin and we’ll be hearing something soon.

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            Bloomgren has even less experience than Baldwin.

            This is so untrue, it’s a bother to say that it’s untrue.

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      I had to laugh, someone posted Lincoln as a destination on Canzano’s twitter.

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        Golly, guys! It’s been a while. Long time no see! Can anyone tell me where Mark is?

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          He made a statement in his goodbye press conference about not being done coaching, yikes!

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    I’m calling it now, we will hire someone that’s not on anybody’s list. Kind of like the GA hire. They may have been mentioned in passing here, but no one is considering them.

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      like Brent Bielema. Another Wisconsin guy.

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        No, it’s going to be a current coach in good standing. Weather that’s a head coach or coordinator I’m not sure. I’m leaning towards head coach. And of course this is all just my personal feeling.

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        It would be hilarious if Arky hired GA.

        • Jack Jack
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          If you want a good conspiracy theory, GA was the leak on Friday. That leak made the OSU AD and program look like a dysfunctional shit show that he was completely right to abandon. The only question anyone could ask after Friday night is, “How did you put up with them for so long?”

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            It seems like you are the only one who thinks this ‘leak’ is a big deal. I fail to see why it matters at all. It certainly doesnt matter as much as you seem to think it does.

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            It is a big deal if you believe in things like professionalism and trust.

            If it’s not a prank, then you’re talking about how people and/or organizations don’t change. And this kind of disrespect leads to things like 69-10, because it shows an immense amount of disrespect.

            I don’t expect many of you here to understand the subtleties of being an adult. But I’m pretty sure there’s a large group here who do understand all this but don’t feel like giving the effort required to teach people who seem not to understand it intuitively.

            It’s also funny how Tennessee fan thinks that scuttling the Schiano hire by literally bearing false witness against him is a valid approach to life. They’re still proud of what they did. It’s bunker mentality stupidity in Knoxville right now.

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      That’s ok as long as it’s not a sitting coach in good standing who already has a better job. That didn’t work out too well last time.

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        After that Ohio State game GA had, he wasn’t in good standing in the state of Wisconsin.

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          I’m pretty sure he had a foot out the door that weekend.

          He should have been in poor standing with them.

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    I can’t find it now, but i swear there was something a few days ago about an experienced sitting head coach who was going to be or had been interviewed.

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    Why is Ken Norton Jr seen as a good candidate? He’s been a linebackers coach in college and the NFL and then NFL defensive coordinator for 2.5 seasons. What am I missing?

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      The importance of defense.

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      He’s black and coached in LA?

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      He’s a superb recruiter. He’s also a superb leader.

      And… he’s also a sacrificial lamb for Jack Del Rio. He has been hamstrung every year at Oakland, especially this year. You can complain all you want about facilities at OSU, but ours are better than the Davis family has provided for their team ever.

      And our facilities are named after the last owner of that team to actually care about the players themselves.

      It would be a fitting “fuck you” for Wayne Valley’s alma mater to hire someone who can make the team relevant again… despite the Raiders’ continued failures in management.

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    we’re presuming Barnes left from CVO. Two jets from EUG were destined for Scottsdale and Van Nuys. That would suggest Graham and Mora, maybe Fisch.

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      Graham seems decent to me? Idk who ASU thinks they are canning him…

      Thoughts?

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        I always thought Graham was a good coach. In a way, his reputation never recovered from that loss to OSU back in ’14 when ASU was #6, just like Tedord never recovered from losing to Riley in ’06. Just like Bob Stoops . . . .

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          Yeah can’t imagine we would have the right to be “upset” with him if he was somehow getting consideration…

          They had a decent year all things considered with a tough non conf sched… seems to be a decent recruiter too as he “stole” N’Keal Harry from us even though i doubt we ever had a chance

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            6-3 in conference, like he had this year at ASU, will get you a lifetime deal in Corvallis.

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            yeah looking at their schedule they were in every game except @ USC.

            also beat ducks with Herbert

            Seems like an odd fire

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      Yeah, does Barnes even realized there IS an airport in Corvallis?

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      You can assume the Ducks like to recruit.

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    Lol this guy

    UPDATE: Oregon State says it has parted ways with its football coaching staff. Cory Hall remains the interim coach. https://t.co/SJ4n547PXq https://t.co/lq5ailzt2U— Danny Moran (@DannyJMoran) November 26, 2017

    “Assistants have been told their contracts will be honored through completion, but to leave their offices at the Valley Football Center by Tuesday night. Oregon State initially said the coaches would be working from home, before clarifying that their ‘services are not being retained.'”

    If this is true it seems like another snafu. Initially they weren’t fired then a few hours later they said they were fired?

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      When will Moran be running the background check on those poor bastards as a final insult?

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        I wonder if Moran even realizes how he was used by vengeful relatives and then by higher ups at the gory onion

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      It’s just Moran being dense. His source probably told him the coaches would all get paid while working from home, and that flew right over his head.

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    Would Barnes fly to the Bay Area to simply finalize details with Baldwin or is that something where Baldwin should be coming to Corvallis? I don’t know the protocol.

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      I think Barnes flying out of town is a dodge to throw the press off. In the last hour plans from San Bernadino and Fresno have landed at CVO. Barnes probably had GA get on the plane as a decoy while he got down to work.

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        check that. Fresno flight came into EUG

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        Tedford wouldn’t fly to Corvallis with a conference championship game to prep for so doubt the plane from Fresno means anything

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          Maybe Marcus McM is coming back and we are wooing him by flying him up to Corvallis? For such a 2nd rate QB (sarc), he only had 332 yards against Boise State for the win. I am so glad this season is over – but the off season isn’t looking any better.

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      The Oaktown flight was at the same time last week.

      Think… HP.

      The only times I’ve ever flown out of or into CVO was on an HP jet.

      The SBD flight is a regular occurrence as well.

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    Test?

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    The way the message is being handled I have even less faith in SB and ER. How hard is it to put out an accurate statement to the press?

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    Coaching dominoes starting to fall. Barnes better hurry.

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      We aren’t going after anyone on the radar of these other programs.

      • Bill
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        If Leach leaves, you better worry about losing Baldwin.

        If A&M hires a coach from a Texas school, leach will be contacted.

        I’m still holding out hope for Sumlin.

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          Why would we worry about “losing” Baldwin?

          Why would Baldwin even think of coming here after Friday?

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    Barnes emptied the cash registers from the Reser concession stands, hijacked a grass farmers private plane, filed a bogus flight plan and is heading to Mexico to live a life of luxury. Will meet up with GA there as in Shawshank Redemption.

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    “i wish i could speak my mind…” Yvenson Bernard.

    “Mike Riley finishes 19-19 in three seasons at Nebraska. He went 29-33 in his final five years at OSU. Sometimes the game just passes you by.” Bob Lundeberg of the GT.

    Bob better watch his step, truth not popular in some Corvallis precincts! Seems Yve already got that message, too bad. Drops my respect/opinion of YB.

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      Ah, mediocre Mike, still has a fan club, how quaint

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        YB would like to see MR back as coach?????

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          Not the way I read it; YB acts like he knows something but hesitates to share. He is part of the AD and may have knowledge of: 1) coaches drinking etc, and/or 2)counterproductive infighting within the AD.

          And, to orangejulius, also not how I read it. Lundeberg’s “…sometimes the game just passes you by.” hardly sounds like a fan club line.

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    From the Scoop, re Bielema being fired as he walked off the field, “You fire a guy walking off the field who disgraced your program.
    You don’t do that to a man who did things the right way and for whatever reason it didn’t work out ”

    And yet OSU gives the staff till Tuesday to get out, another indicator of the Athletic Depts gum chewer approach.

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    scares me for wayne tinkles job that ronnie stacy is who he brings in from JUCO and that he’s actually getting minutes…

    2 drives, 2 travels..

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      Not to mention he missed a shot on an out of control drive to the basket!

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        not quite sure why Manuel is getting skunked, he seems fine enough to play for our awful team

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      How can you watch that shit?

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        I’m sick

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        After all this football crap blows over, I think we will need to talk how much rope Tinkle gets. I can’t believe how bad this team is even with another Thompson and TT back.

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        I watched like 5 minutes of game 1 and knew they’d suck. They’re just bozos running around hoping for the best. No structure or discipline.

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          It’s sort of interesting, he has three top 100 players, how many teams have that outside of the blue blood programs? Either the scouts and analysts are idiots or Tinkle can’t coach. I just get tired of this weird shit with football and basketball coaches. Luck O’ the Beavs.

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            Shoot for the ground, hit your target every time.

            But… rainbows.

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            Can we imagine how badly CR shot himself in the foot with his final words in his final presser?

            He had a large contingency of juniors returning. He had GP2 and Cam Oliver incoming.

            He just had to go all unprofessional at the last moment.

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    Greg Schiano to Tennessee maybe. Didnt someone here want him as our coach? Seems like a complete psycho.
    deadspin.com/report-tennessee-football-gives-up-completely-hauls-g-1820749179/amp

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      deadspin.com/report-tennessee-football-gives-up-completely-hauls-g-1820749179/

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      Fuck it, copy the link if you want to read it.

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      Wow, there’s been some kind of protest and now the press conference to announce his hire has been postponed or cancelled? Silly season for sure.

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      Schiano was one of Jack’s choices

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        Seems like a bigger scumbag then Kiffin.

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          Tennessee will now not hire Schiano.
          /story/_/id/21579125/tennessee-volunteers-no-longer-hire-greg-schiano-head-coach

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            There is some stuff out there that UT may have to pay Schiano some money because there was some type of agreement in place? What a cluster.

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          not even close

          But the Sandusky allegation is new. That should be upsetting and disqualifying if true. It’s hearsay, so who’s to know?

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    Without saying too much, i can verify that danny’s reports of the staff being fired already are false.
    Maybe it will still happen, but it hasnt happened to this point.

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    If OSU hires someone other than Baldwin we need an outright ban on footballscoop links and their made up clickbait bullshit.

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      Why? they’ve been right on a lot of stuff.

      They said Sumlin would be fired weeks ago. They said Graham would be fired too. Reported Mullen to Florida before anyone else.

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    Not sure I can handle two dumpster fires in one weekend. Beavs hoops blows a 13 point first half led and now has powerhouse Marist within two points. When the announcers said that Marist had never defeated a P-12 team, I knew it was the kiss of death.

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    Does anybody know if the Chicago Cubs fans have a consulting group that we could call on?

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    Just to help us cope with all this….

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    Tennessee hired and fired a guy before we even finished interviews! 😛

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    Cav’s vindication:: A report in this weekend’s WSJ says “Crawling . . . is growing in popularity as an exercise activity. Some fitness types claim that the act of crawling like a baby allows the mind and body to return to healthier exercise patterns learned at an early change. Everyone knows that before children learn to walk, their bodies are lean, mean and supple. . . . . Crawling enthusiasts say that by dropping down onto all fours and prowling around the room like jungle cats, people are hitting the reset button in their central nervous systems, returning to. . . a[n] Eden-like state before pedestrianism went and ruined everything.”

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      Cav…….there was an observation in one of the Nebraska papers that Cav “peeled out of the parking lot” after getting fired.

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      “Supple” seems like a poor choice in words when talking about children’s bodies.

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      What a bunch of hippie-yoga-bullshit…FUCK Cav..he couldn’t even DO a bear crawl. I can imagine him “peeling” out of the parking lot in a mid-90’s Camaro….He and Banker are so far removed from reality as to be delusional…..go enjoy your over-compensated salaries, stay fat, and be quiet.

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    Ronnie Stacy has been running the point effectively for the last five minutes and now the Beavs are up 13 with six minutes left. I am apparently either dead or asleep.

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    Good game for Hollins also

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    I’m hearing Kiffin (Monte, not Lane) to the Vols. Looking at a possible Bilema/Pelini duo as co-HC to Oregon State. Ink is dry.

    Found this nugget on Twitter… interesting anyway

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      We’re so bad we need 2 head coaches to turn this thing around

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      I think you forgot to take your pills again

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      Can’t believe I’m saying this, but as bad as things are at OSU, at least we’re not Vols fans.

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        yep. they have an even more bungled search. just like Kansas and Baylor were maybe the only teams with worse seasons than the Beavs.

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      it’s clear that the OSU pattern of late is to get someone on a rebound: Erickson; Riley II, Andersen. One could almost put Riley I in that category since he was rebounding from his career in Canada just prior to taking the SC job. I always liked Bielima at Wisconsin. I remember when they lost here in 2012 he fired an assistant or two. To some that may come across as hard-ass but to me it shows a superiority loyalty to his employer to put the best possible product on the field.

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      This would make me laugh and want to watch Beavs games…if only for the meltdowns the first couple of years.

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    Interesting that Baldwin hasn’t made any public statements about staying with Cal the past two days. Makes me think he’s the choice despite all the recent reports.

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    Damn

    Am told #OregonState reached out to #FresnoState’s Jeff Tedford about their HC vacancy as a feeler but he quickly passed. He is happy at Fresno.— Bruce Feldman (@BruceFeldmanCFB) November 27, 2017

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    Woke up this morning and found my Beavers banner had blown up into the gutter. How perfect.

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    Well, Mike Bellotti has denied having any interest in the job.

    So we aren’t completely devoid of luck.

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    Nemec reporting that Beavs commits have not been contacted by anyone from OSU yet. If true, another example of a laid-back, gum chewer approach by this AD.
    I don’t care how busy Barnes is, I don’t care that he may have no substantial news; he needs to see that we don’t lose out because of lack of showing concern for the situation these kids are now in.

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      That should be Hall’s job at this point

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        Agreed. However, even Barnes could make a phone call (from a plane if necessary) to counter the sharks which will attempt to poach. If nothing else, Barnes could assure them that they aren’t forgotten and will be getting a call from Hall tomorrow.

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      Wish Barnes and OSU would just finalize on Baldwin and put an end to this. He is a good coach used to working in a smaller market and producing. With a good DC hire really think he is the right guy to take on this challenge.

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      Most of these recruits we’d want to leave. Petras is a keeper…not much else there.
      I’m hoping the new coach brings in better recruits.

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        The next coach needs to bring in a top 25 recruiting class consistently, or fuck it, we’re 7 wins, max.

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          Out of curiosity, what’s the best recruiting ranking OSU has ever had? Have they ever had one as high as 25?

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            Angry knows a lot about that stuff, he might remember. I don’t think a class ever broke into the 30’s that I can remember.

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            No, I think low 40s was the highest, maybe high 30s.
            Definitely not 25.

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            That’s my memory as well. So having even one top 25 class would be quite remarkable unless the new coach is a Jedi: “those are not the uniforms you’re looking for.”

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        No coach will have time to rebuild this class, add on to it and develop the guys already committed, that is the best strategy.

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          True dat

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          The only true 4 star recruit I ever remember the Beavers getting is Tim Alexander – then USC went and broke his leg on a late hit out-of-bounds. Never liked USC to begin with – but hate them with a passion to this day.

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      Nemec would love nothing more than to see the beavs do a steeper nose dive. His brief article was intended to turn recruits away from osu..

      He’s a duck honk.why else would he overstate the already obvious situation.

      I called him out on Twitter for his undying loyalty as a duck honk and he threatened to block me. His agenda is obvious after posting a comment recently after the beavs “making progress” moving from 12 to 11 in recruiting. He’s a slobbering duck fan that probably messed his panties during the civil war.

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        I’m sure he’s a fan of the Ducks and probably biased. But, I’m guessing he’s a bigger fan of himself, and would prefer to have two teams with active recruiting news/gossip to report and tweet.

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    Adam Jude at Seattle Times says Smith has interviewed. No surprise I suppose by confirmation of the inevitable. By the way, the Twitter responses to Feldman’s note on Tedford are just brutal. someone should send them to Ed Ray

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    Is Todd Graham someone Barnes should check in with? Graham doesn’t seem to have any geographical preferences. The ASU situation seems weird, the AD came out and said he would like to retain the OC and DC? Does that mean for next season? And Graham will coach the bowl game? Maybe Graham would like to stay in the P-12 and build the Beavs up.

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      How would he build up the beavs when he couldn’t even build up asu?

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        I thought he did pretty good at ASU and great at Tulsa. ASU ain’t going back to the Frank Kush days. It’s another program with delusions.

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        He was second in the Pac 12 South, only behind USC. I can live with that. He has a track record of wins in P12 as head coach, does Baldwin?

        #hireGraham

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    Can you two morons shut up with the “snowflake” and “show me the email” horseshit? It contributes nothing. Bans are on the table moving forward. I can use ignore, but unfortunately as the admin I get an email in my inbox each time you make those moronic and useless comments, and they’re flooding it with nonsense. I want to read good comments, not horseshit.

    Get a grip on your teenage emotions and start contributing, or at least be quiet.

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      If that delta bravo agrees to grow up, I’m good.

      If he continues to pick internet fights, you better stop it first.

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        And you can start with his handle.

        Every single post is an irritant meant to pick an internet fight. Tough sure does trigger easily.

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          I think most would agree jax is the true instigator/agitator on this forum. I merely created my profile just due to the fact that over the years I grew tired of his sexist, racist and insulting tone he has displayed for YEARS… pleas ban us both so nobody needs to read pages of TRUMP whining and crappy music video links. If jax and I are banned I feel I have done a service to this board IMO, Bring the ban hammer! Just mind you I’ve been annoying for a few months, where you (Angry) have allowed jax to terrorize your board for YEARS an YEARS with no ban despite multiple requests for him to be banned.

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            This has been your temperament from day one. If you don’t like what you get, stop trying to give it. Because I will stand up to you every damn time.

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          Feelings hurt? I mean you literally call people “pussies, quitters and morons/stupid” on a daily basis over sports, politics or any other topic YOU don’t agree about. Why upset when it is directed at you for a change? Honest question

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            Also, Angry if you do ban make it public knowledge so people know

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            Jack is fine. Saying “terrorize” is a bit dramatic. Just scroll by if you don’t like his posts. I find the screen names created in opposition to Jack to be the most annoying thing in here. Quit whining to angry about it.

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            My feelings are inconsequential.

            If you have been called something by me, you deserve it. I will walk it back sometimes, but you deserve no quarter.

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            Your honest question, btw, has nothing to do with anything.

            People who quit… stay with me here… are called quitters. Someone who doesn’t understand that would be not smart. There are many common terms for not smart people.

            You would have the world believe otherwise for whatever reason. You have yet to direct anything at me. You have been a disgusting person, so I act toward you as you act toward me on a 24/7 basis.

            I let you go for how long? Four or five months? Two days of me gving you what you gave me for almost half a year, and your fingers were typing threats you can’t follow through on.

            You’re a not smart person.

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            It’s also interesting that you’re willing to split the baby, but you think you’re standing on high ground. This is what you have been always.

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    There was a lot of talk about Les Miles a couple of weeks ago and I realize it may have been fantasy. I don’t hear his name in conjunction with any job. Is he left out of the cycle again and if so why?

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      Maybe because he’s been out of the business too long. When you reach a certain age you become less hireable, especially if you’ve been out of work for a long period.

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        One year? LSU fired him in 2016, right? I guess he doesn’t fall under the “sitting head coach” category. I’m curious as to who the sitting head coaches are that Barnes is speaking with. I really hope he’s not counting Tedford. The more I think about this, the more I think the program needs a proven name, but I’m not confident there is one to be had.

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          What proven name would want this job?
          It would have to be someone really damaged, like Briles…
          Or someone really old like Erickson.
          Or someone nuts like GA.

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            i guess it boils down to how bad someone wants to coach in 2018, right? At least there’s some decent money that can be spent thanks to GA and his madness. I’m fine with Baldwin if he’s the man, but this is a big undertaking. I’m thinking there will be at least a couple of proven winners left out of the cycle again. It worked once for OSU with DE and I know this is a shittier job now.

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            I think another big issue is there are 8 better jobs open or being filled. It is a seller’s (coaches) market this offseason.

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            Jim, wouldn’t this be a buyers market? It doesn’t appear to have more names for jobs than coaches looking/wanting jobs. Universities seem to fire coaches because they have someone else in mind. Oregon state didn’t fire GA midseason, he up and quit even though he knew he was going to get fired at seasons end. It would have been better for GA to have stuck it out and mutually leave after the CW. that didn’t happen, so now we’re in a bigger mess because the job is undesirable it would seem. I wonder if Barnes is forcing the hand of the next coach to take on Hall as part of his staff and build that into the contract?

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            At this point I think the Erickson plan (3 years with JS as his coach in waiting) is probably the best plan available.

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    Tennessee fans shoot themselves in the foot.
    https://www.mediaite.com/online/the-twitter-mob-is-trying-to-destroy-greg-schiano-and-they-are-100-wrong/amp/

    Schiano may have a case against them for defamation. And now they have to go find a coach who wants to deal with them on a daily basis.

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    Sedge with nuggets about Harsin and Lance Anderson.

    Not another Anderson…

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    Seeing a few tweets this morning about Lance Anderson, Stan DC as well as Bryan Harsin.

    Found this article a few years back in favor of Anderson for the BYU job. Do his Utah St ties disqualify him? ?? Solid resume and good recruiter.

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865643425/Guest-commentary-BYU7s-next-coach-should-be-Stanford7s-Lance-Anderson.html

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    Don’t know anything about Anderson. Harsin would be a good hire but he seems pretty happy where he’s at.

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    Anderson’s D had one really good year in 2014. Aside from that it’s been above average, but not great.

    Not sure what his reptuation as a recruiter is, but his bio says he’s the team’s liason to the admissions office, which probably means he makes sure they can get the guys they want into school. That has to count for something. Stanford does have a totally different recruiting strategy from OSU, so there isn’t an obvious carry over of connections and skills there. He may be a better fit at Rice in that regard.

    He’s a big dude. In all honesty, how many successful coaches are severely overweight? Seems to show a lack of personal discipline to me, which doesn’t send a good message to the organization.

    I want to like him based on the Stanford mindset, but I’m leaning towards no.

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      The stats suggest he is best when the offense is doing well at clock control…Which is more faint praise. But I’m sure he’d be an instant upgrade from the current staff.

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    I think I have fewer reservations about Harsin than just about any of the names that have been floated out there. There’s been little drop off at BSU since he took over, he knows the recruiting region, and he’s a proven winner.

    He’s 4-1 against the Pac-12 and 2-0 in bowl games as OC at UT (including embarrassing Banker in the Alamo Bowl).

    My only concern is that he doesn’t have experience building up a program from nothing because he’s been a part of winning programs everywhere he’s been. Changing a culture is a specific skill.

    Would he leave his alma mater and a position where he’s solidly entrenched?

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      He would not leave until they told him to. And Boise is his hometown too. Another reason why he wouldn’t leave.

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    For those who watched Saturday, how was the overall talent discrepancy between UO and OSU? Granted, OSU’s DBs are in short supply, but in terms of overall D performance, that never seemed to matter this season anyway.

    QB and O-line seem like the biggest differences(?).

    There’s the obvious coaching distraction for OSU, which I suspect was important factor, even if Hall or others try to downplay it.

    The reason I ask about the talent discrepancy is that Taggert in his first season gets 7 wins and a bowl. Curious if he looked like a good/good+ coach or is a salesman some suspect he is and is getting by on existing roster talent. Overall their play looked pretty uneven on the season without the starting QB.

    OSU in Andersen’s third season by contrast gets one 3-point win over PSU who finished winless.

    Also, does OSU’s current O-Line roster shape up better next year? Isn’t it still lacking a viable center at this point?

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      1-it’s hard to underplay the contribution of Leavitt
      2-for OSU, center is certainly a “position of need”
      3-slick willie?….in some ways he’s Cory Hall with a coherent staff (and a huge bag of swoosh goodies).

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        The Leavitt contribution can’t be overstated. The defense looks much more disciplined, evidenced by how they bottled up Kahlil Tate. They’ve always had athletes. Now they know what they’re doing. I’m really hoping the KSU job opens up and the politics resolve to give Leavitt his dream job.

        Taggart has said that he’d never been to a situation where he didn’t have a budget. An often overlooked benefit of having infinite resources is that you know you can fix a mistake if you make one. That let’s you go out on more limbs; swing for more fences. Go for bigger risk/bigger reward.

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          Yeah, that’s the thing about UO’s coaching staff. They look great on paper, now. But, unless they fall on their face, then guys like Leavitt, Cristobal, and perhaps even Taggart will be gone in a couple of seasons..

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          Oregon’s D looked and played like shit all year. Hall gave them bulletin board material.

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            Well, we disagree. Given what the D looked like last year compared to this year the improvement to me is obvious. We tend to go easier on the D when the offense is so bad, right? Burmeister was a dumpster fire and the UO defense was mostly in bad straights. What I see is that they have NFL potential at QB and an improving defense.

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            The two points aren’t exclusive. Nikegon’s run D was as bad last year as UCLA’s was this year. Both of them could improve toward the mean and still be well below it. They also had a couple players step up. It wasn’t just Troy Dye against the world this year.

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    OSU’s defense was impressively balanced in its approach this season, yielding 237.3 YPG passing and 235.8 YPG rushing. Their 43 PPG is 128/130 in the nation.

    https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/oregon-state/2017.html#all_defense_and_fumbles

    Where is Andersen hiding out? Wittingham’s spare bedroom? Somebody should call out this epically bad season and publicly lay it at that quitter’s feet. Seems like he’s getting off too easy.

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      Pretty sure angry has called out the paid scribes on twitter.

      I’m not too concerned with Andersen getting off easy; it’s the culture of the Athletic Dept which needs to be exposed. IMHO

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        Good point, the AD shouldn’t be absolved from all of this either. It has been, what 2+ months since GA walked away and I get the distinct impression that Barnes is just now trying to rustle up someone to coach this team – we’ve had a tremendous head start on a coaching search and I can’t help but feel like we have squandered a great opportunity.

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          Concerns about the “culture of the athletic dept” go far beyond any slow start to the search for a new FB HC.
          If coaches were drinking and chasing co-eds that would be a major fail by the AD; if not, there are still plenty of examples we’ve seen of an operation which appears sloppy and slipshod (or maybe just woefully out of touch).

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      Yeah, where is he?? You just have to know that at some point in the next 3-4 months, maybe even sooner, the whole sordid tale of what was/is this mess will come out. Was it the bottle that got him, the pressure of trying to keep up the appearance of being a Power 5 Conf. HC? Who really knows, but we are going to find out at some point for sure, and it’s going to be good, too. Maybe it will come out by the time Athalon’s publishes their PAC12 annual or SI will run a feature?

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        Maybe 30 for 30 will pick it up down the road?

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        Not sure of why the negative rating, but the fans and alum of OSU deserve no less then the truth on this whole debacle. We’ve had to survive with plenty of coaching adversity over the years and this, by far, is the worst that I have seen in my 38 years associated with the university. From Avezzano, Kragthorpe, to Pettibone, DE and Riley were the only ones that had brought some semblance of continuity to the program and an attitude that we could compete in the conference. This last 3 years with GA were a nightmare that sank the program lower than I have seen it – the product on the field stank and was unwatchable for much of the season. I feel for the kids, but a lack of coaching had to be responsible for much of it.

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      He’s not worth getting your big boy pants in a wad.

      Breathe deeply. Count to ten. Compartmentalize him. Recall him as funny… but funny shake-your-head, not funny ha-ha.

      He saw what he did. He left the money. We don’t need to chase him anymore.

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    Cal SB Nation blog speculates that if Beau Baldwin goes to OSU as HC, he’ll bring Cal WR coach Nicholas Edwards with him and leave Cal with “two huge vacancies to fill”.

    https://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/2017/11/27/16703262/beau-baldwin-update-oregon-state-beavers-football-coach

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    Anybody else go to the duke/florida game last night? It was crazy how much better those teams are than our Beavs, and Duke plays mostly freshman this year.
    Really entertaining game too. Florida has a pretty well rounded team but needs more size down low.

    Alao, QB commit Jake Dukart was shown on the jumbo screen at one point. They were flashing shots of various fans in different team gear amd he had a Beaver shirt/hat on. He stood up proudly with his OSU gear while he was showered with boos from the crowd. Was nice to see he didn’t back down to the booing.

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    Damn, Sitake is not messing around, he fired BYU legend Ty Detmer’s ass today.

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      Please hire McGiven. Please hire McGiven.

      Was reading we owe around $2.6M in assistant coach salaries next season, for the staff outside of Hall. The more guys who get hired on somewhere else, the less we’ll have to pay. We should be praying these guys all get new jobs and don’t take a year long vacation.

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      Haha. That guy sucked even as a DC.
      He had a cool name. That’s why people hired him.

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    This whole coaching search is quickly reaching disaster level.

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      How? Nothing has really happened. It’s all rumors. No one on this board has any real insight as to who the coach is going to be and who Barnes is interviewing.

      Is it a disaster bc of how they fired the coaches? Who cares, they were gone anyways. Did they need a going away party?

      As for the recruits, so they’re in limbo for a week. Other than Petras, other schools don’t seem to be pursuing them. I think there’s only been one decommit? That says a lot about how much interest other schools gave them.

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        He’s just depressed and venting, as always.

        I do that sometimes to get out frustration. It feels good, briefly, until you realize you wrote something that doesn’t make sense.

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      Not really. You could say we had a jump on other teams because of GA leaving early but the fact is coaches in good standing arnt going to interview or even speculate about job opening while they are currently coaching other teams. #1 that’s really dumb, #2 some schools don’t allow it via current contracts. #3 it’s OSU, it’s not like were a top 25 school with an opening. So far nothing is really known as fact other then we a searching for a coach.

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    Maybe it is time for Barnes to walk and for Casey to replace him, with Yeskie taking the reins of the baseball team. I just think Barnes is in over his head, with all that has happened with OSU athletics in the last year. I think Casey would be a stellar AD and will hold people more accountable.

    I understand Angry’s position of cleaning house in the football program, but with each passing day I am becoming more concerned we will not be able to find a quality coach. It may come down to retaining Hall as HC until next year which is not exactly the end of the world, so long as we spend good money on quality coordinators. Two that come to mind are Ben McAdoo and Bo Pelini.

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      I would take Baldwin ten times out of ten over Hall.

      I think I’d like Harsin most of the names I’m hearing. I bet he’s a real possibility which is why the day after the Mountain West Championship game is the latest we’ll have an official announcement.

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        My original assumption is that these guys would not take the OSU job. I would take Baldwin or Harsin, but I think life is pretty good already for those guys right now.

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        College football is unique because a non-Power 5 coach can be a superstar and still have zero chance to compete for the playoffs, so that is always a motivating factor in these guys taking Power 5 jobs. I just have a hard time imagining Harsin would think the OSU job has that potential. But they all have to take a P-5 job at some point to even get in the game.

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          The chance to compete for more and more than doubling his salary could be adequate motivators….

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        Harsin only makes 1 mil. So it’s possible…

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          And Baldwin only makes $570k, in the Bay Area. I would think cost of living is a significant factor for California school assistant coaches. Head coach less so, but an assistant under $500k really isn’t making it big in SoCal or the Bay. Particularly when you could make that same salary in much cheaper Corvallis, Lincoln, Tuscaloosa, …

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          FWIW according to USA today Harsin is making $1.55M.

          http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

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            Small potatoes…..

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            Yeah I was going off wikipedia, which is never good. He makes somewhere between 1 to 1.5m. We can give him significantly more. He doesn’t seem in demand.

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        Didn’t realize how good Harsin’s HC winning percentage is, or that he’d already won a Fiesta Bowl (over Az).

        If he’s an actual interview, or candidate after Saturday’s game is complete, I think that would be very positive.

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          Is someone hacking Wiki……..says Harsin plans to leave Boise St. to take the Tennessee job.

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    Who is the George Fox football coach? Let’s get him on board now, it worked once with Rueck.

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      Someone posted his name in a prior thread…he had a great W% like all the GF guys. Hell, I’d take him over GA for sure. We are Marsha-…OSU!

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        Chris Casey (I like the last name). I assume he’s the same guy who started the program from scratch? They won one game the first year back in ’14 and they just went 7-3 and only lost to perennial power Linfield 12-6.

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        What was the “great” win percentage Angry? Haha.

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      His name is allegedly: Chris.

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      Chris Casey is Pat Casey’s brother. I wouldn’t have any issue if they hired him.

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        Damn, I guess I never got the connection. He’s probably an incredible coach.

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        I say fuck it, let’s hire him.
        Is anyone from George Fox not great?

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          I’m kicking myself, my youngest had a chance to go to a George Fox football camp last summer for a few days. Newberg is a pain in the butt to get to, but I should have pulled the trigger. I will do it next summer if it’s still offered.

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            It will be there again next summer

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            Its there every summer. We take our whole high school team every year.

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            “Newberg is a pain in the butt to get to”
            Actually no. There is an airport there!……….well, an “airpark”

            And, yes, he is Pat’s older brother and he did resurrect GF Football after success at Aloha HS.

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            I’m not flying to Newberg, I don’t live that far away!

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        He coached Thomas Tyner back at Aloha high school not that many years ago

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          We could save a pile of money hiring him. But who would he bring in as assistants?

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      It worked 3 times. Casey, Rueck, and Pat Bailey.

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    BTW, losing RB coach Lockette is too bad. Seemed like a solid recruiter, particularly for FLA.

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      Absolutely. If this all plays out in the typical Oregon State football fashion watch for Lockette and Hall to get snagged up in a hurry by better coaches at successful programs and for the mediocre new coach to bring in butt buddy scrubs from their last job.

      I’d love to be wrong…

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      Lockette wasn’t really doing much. Most FL recruits never showed up or left.

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      Idk… ball hit the dirt a bunch this season. Of course, it wasn’t just their unit.

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    Reading between the lines, is it possible Bloomgren is the guy that’s a “viable candidate?”

    We already heard he was under consideration. Then someone else hears about a Stanford coordinator, but one detail gets changed. Then we get told almost immediately that Anderson ISN’T a candidate.

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    Ole Miss spent 137k in their national search for a new coach. They promoted the interim hc.

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      Money well spent?

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        Aren’t both Miss schools undesirable because of NCAA issues right now? I think Luke is a placeholder. If he succeeds, they keep him. If he fails, they can move on having given him a fair shake.

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    The entire athletic department is suffering from the very, very bad leadership of Barnes. Let me just tell you straight up that since he came on, he has caused more harm than people will ever know. There is absolutely no way that the football program is going to find success while he is in charge. He is the reason why several coaches have been fired unjustly since he arrived, and because of this, the department is having to pay out a lot of unnecessary money and battle civil suits. These coaches, Kevin Roberts, Emily Ford, and Vita Scaglione, were all fired without due process and their rights were violated. Roberts is suing the school on a civil rights case. We have spoken to people who dealt with Barnes when he was AD at Utah State and it was the same story – unprofessional, closed off, etc. This is the same thing that’s went down on our campus since he took over and you wouldn’t believe the black cloud that has come over this place. The best thing we can hope for is that he moves on….seriously.

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      But, but Dr. Ray thinks he’s worth $850K/yr so what you’re saying can’t be true.

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        Dr. Ray needs to move on as well. He’s got egg on his face over the Andersen hire and how he thought he’d be the savior – I laugh.

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          Yup. Dude is a dinosaur and clueless

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            This needs to get picked up by the media

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            “This needs to get picked up by the media”
            A point emphasized by Tumwater Dave on the JoeBeav radio show today. Parker’s on it!!!!!

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            Dave in Tumwater sounds like a dinosaur, but he’s definitely not clueless. #Dave4AD

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            I’m sure Danny Moron is on it, running standard background checks and whatnot

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      That’s what I sensed and feared, though I have heard there are problem employees in the A.D. as well.
      I’m not sure why schools keep hiring Barnes. He’s unlikable and seems incompetent.

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        The bad thing is that the problem employees were people that Andersen brought – Guinta and Yray are the worst of the worst but they are gone – ….Lassiter and Nyborg need to go but they are Barnes’ good ol boys so who knows. Jihad Ali (yes that’s his real name) is Barnes’ whipping boy and puts him up to all kinds of stuff. Some employees have no real reason for being in the positions they are in except they are damn lucky.
        Mark Massari’s loss was a big hit. The fact is, he would have made a great AD. Ray botched that one up big time. Things started changing when he left.

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          Curious what makes Yray and Guinta the worst?
          Neither really has the authority required to be too problematic, right?
          Always pictured them as yes men for GA

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          I thought Barnes was hired to give Andersen somebody he liked: tail, wag dog. Men’s football and basketball are a school’s biggest revenue generating sports, so I think there’s a tendency to be deferential to those coaches. Ed Ray really thought he lucked into a great thing w/Andersen, thought Andersen would get OSU to a Rose bowl, and likely wanted an AD with whom Andersen was comfortable.

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          No idea if Massari is good or bad but he is still in town so maybe he’s waiting Barnes out

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        I’m skeptical of this insider knowledge. It could all be true I suppose, but this could also be a standard case of the old rank and file in the AD not being open to change / different way of doing things. In any organization, when new management is brought in there are always people who think they know better and have a hard time getting on board with the new way. Could be that Barnes needs to do a better job at finding who these people are and getting rid of them.

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      So you’re saying GA helped hire the wrong [expletive] guy!?

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        And didn’t I read that the wrong [expletive] guy consulted Andersen on the next hire?

        Barnes:”Gee, Gary hired the wrong fucking guys, think I’ll ask for his input on the next head coach.”

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    People were saying Massari was a dink. Who do you believe?

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    I don’t know much about this inner-working stuff. Do Casey and Rueck put up with crap or are they outside of these things?

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      What crap are they putting up with?

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        I guess the dysfunction in the athletic department according to some of the posts above?

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          Good question, mckalk.

          I’ve always assumed that any troublemakers in the AD office would be hesitant to mess with either of those two because of the performance of their teams and the strong vision they have for their programs. Add to that the way they have connected directly to fans.

          Casey, particularly, has done a lot in the fund raising area, and projects a “no BS” image. Seriously, who would want to mess with him?

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    Is it me or was Dave Aranda, Sitake, and Brent Brennan the only Andersen Asst Coach that came out ahead of not coaching very long under Andersen since he left Wisconsin and quit on OSU? I bet Arranda feels the most relieved by not coming along, although, we may of had a way better defense if he had come along.

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    We have had 7 weeks to get our shit together an be ready to hire a competent / qualified coach as soon as the season is over. It’s now Monday 11/27 and we are sitting on our thumb while other schools are on the move and getting things done. UCLA fired Mora and had Chip hired within 3 days. This whole process smells on complete incompetency.

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    The only logical reason to wait is that they know someone playing this weekend will take the job and that could only be Harsin IMO since Tedford is out.

    So I am gonna assume its Harsin for my own sanity, welcome to Corvallis

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      Or Barnes read my suggestion and its Venables!

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      Or it could be the db coach at USC for all we know…. I realize there was a lot of tongue and cheek in your comment but I have come to terms that we have to wait for Barnes to mess this up on his own time table….until then I will just stress a little and drink a little more….

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      I’d be happy with Harsin. Not sure about his recruiting, but he can coach and set a tone.

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      Norvell is playing this weekend, so there’s still hope there. I’ve read he may have some background baggage though. I hope the search committee has contacted Charlie Strong. He may have a better job at USF in his opinion but I think he could do wonders at OSU (7-5). Or like you said, it could be Harsin. A safe hire on paper but he hasn’t maintained what he inherited at Boise.

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        Harsin has won the MWC 3 out of 4 years. I think he’s maintained things pretty well. If you thought he was going to keep going to BCS bowls every year, you have unrealistic expectations.

        He also has more wins over Pac-12 teams than GA did.

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          I guess that depends on how we define maintained. Petersen lost 1 game or less in 5 of his 8 years their. Harsin’s lost 3 games or more in 3 of his 4 seasons.

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            Also just for arguments same….BSU played WSU….. lost although away game and close in OT but their other meaniful out of conference game this year was a blow out at home against Virginia…. worst loss in a long time on the blue turf…. I think he holds some similarities to Baldwin when he was at EWU in that he can grab guys that aren’t quite PAC 12 guys at least a few and run a train on the mtn west although FSU beat them last week we will see how this weekend goes at BSU. Also against our chances go down due to the fact that he is a native of Boise played there plus they are decently well off as far as finances because the Mtn West lets them have a different TV contract than the rest of their conference. All that said he for sure is an upgrade from Anderpants….one last thing rumor here in Idaho was that the Ucks were looking at him last year before going with slick Willie…

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          “…He also has more wins over Pac-12 teams than GA did….”

          OUCH

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      I don’t know that I’d trust any reports of someone turning down the job, ie. Tedford or accepting the job until it’s reported by OSU. I’d giv Jim Tressell a shout out to see if he’s interested…national champ at tOSU and I think Youngstown State.

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      Could only be Harsin? Did you forget about assistants too? Eggers tweet earlier stated coach. It didn’t say head coach. So it could be anyone coaching on any staff this weekend.

      Harsin, Bloomgren (if he hasn’t already interviewed or this is a 2nd interview), Lance Anderson, Norvell, Kiffin or Schiano. I can’t see OSU even touching Kiffin or Schiano. Norvell is rumored to be being courted by Arkansas. IMO, that leaves Harsin, Bloomgren and Lance Anderson. I’d be perfectly happy with Harsin or Bloomgren.

      Edit:

      On 2nd thought, I can’t see Harsin leaving his Alma Mater for this dumpster fire. I know Oregon was kicking the tires on him after their very public break up with Helfrich. Idk what level of interest their was from either side. Harsin could very well just be using this as a ruse to get more money out of Boise CC.

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    TEDFORD , FOR ME, WAS THE ONLY CHIOCE. BUT, NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. COULD DEAL WITH THE ATHLETIC BUDGETS, FACILITIES, AND AN OFFENSIVE MIND–WHICH WINS IN THE PAC-12. DEFENSE NEEDS TO BE FAST AND DECENT, BUT O WINS IN THE PAC-12 NOW..TOO BAD..

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      I like tedford too…he could bring mcmaryion back with him…Jim tressell former Ohio State coach that is currently at Youngstown State (I think).

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    Are you guys excited if it’s not Baldwin and these other names have legs?

    I think I like Harsin more. Not sure. Tressell would be great, but I just don’t see him wanting to deal with this. Doesn’t seem like a west coast guy. Tedford would be fine to get us good QBs and to 7 wins, but he’d then have to be replaced. He’s basically Riley from 2006-2009.

    It’s starting to look like it really isn’t Baldwin. Pretty surprising given the sources that reported that. I wonder if something went wrong with the deal at the last minute.

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      Probably doing a very thorough background and character check

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        Huh? No one tipped me off to anything. Uhh I mean of course, it’s standard!

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      Tressel is the president of YSU. Probably not coming back to coach football.

      Harsin would be a good hire. Much more proven than Baldwin.

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      I agree that it doesn’t look like Baldwin is the guy. It almost feels like that was floated out there so the actual hire sounds more impressive. I think Harsins résumé is better, with his FBS HC experience, but not sure he can clean up this mess.

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      Friday night announcement happened.

      If there was any development toward him, it’s shot now.

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      concur. the longer this takes the less likely it’s Baldwin. If they hire him, I’m fine with it. I’m still holding out hope that in the end there’s some Dennis Erickson like earthquake that says, “wow, look who Oregon State hired.” At this point in OSU’s trajectory the only realistic prospects are up and coming assistants (in the Prothro, Riley I model, yielding Baldwin, Smith) or guys needing to rehab their careers: Erickson and Riley II mode, yielding Les Miles, Rick Neuheisel, Bilema, Graham. What we know has NOT worked, is taking a sitting coach from another program who in effect volunteers to come here because of some mysterious reason.

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      For better or for worse, it’s all just rumors until the hire is actually announced by the college these days.

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      Think Bloomgren or Anderson. Tedford can certainly say he’s not interested. However they do play Boise again this weekend. Tedford and/or Harsin could be trying to leverage more $ out of their current schools.

      How do you think Central Florida recruits and players feel after Scott Frost said he’d be heartbroken if Nebraska didn’t want him? That’s not a distraction????

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      Well, Don James wasn’t a West Coast guy either and he did pretty well….

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    Still want Baldwin. Best fit for OSU and I think his personality is a huge upgrade from Andersen. Could deal with Harsin but just think he is a more expensive Baldwin that gets you the same amount of wins and wouldn’t be as unique of a fit for OSU. Harsin isn’t as likeable from a 1st impression to me. Would rather spend the pricw difference between Baldwin and Harsin on good coordinators. Harsin finished real low in who fans have wantwd through this 7 week process so not sure why Oregon State and Barnes would wany to risk alienating the highest percenrahe of Beaver fans who have been voicing and supporting Baldwin as HC. Do think we will know more in a couple of days.

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    Fwiw, that jet that flew into CVO from Scottsdale this afternoon started flying to some interesting places. It also left CVO for Livermore later..
    https://flightaware.com/live/flight/EJA404

    The original jet that was ordered set a flight plan last night from Oklahoma City to San Diego then Scottsdale.

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      So if we want to play guesses, I’m going with interviews for Yurcich, Miles, Orlando, Graham, Baldwin and/or Norton.

      And what Barnes said originally was that he would wait until the season is over, hit the ground running and complete the hire efficiently from there.

      That would be what this looks like.

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        I forgot one for Dallas.

        Gary Patterson wants to go back to the west coast.

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        At this point I don’t care who the next coach is…as long as s/he doesn’t wear a visor.

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        I would have a lot more confidence in the process if they are meeting with the names above. When all we’ve been given is Beau, Smith and Hall It looks like an incompetent AD. Even if it is Beau, I want to know that he earned it.

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        Do we know for a fact Barnes was even on said jet?

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          The timing and activity are simply coincidental. I just never liked coincidences.

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      Makes the Baldwin announcement look more like a prank.

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      Actually that’s my coke dealer, the man gets around.

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    I could see Telly Lockette ending up with Willie Taggart at oregon, once they allow teams to hire an extra coach

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    If your final choice is between Harsin and Baldwin, you take Harsin and you take him without hesitation. More tested at the Power 5 level, and he’s kept Boise State competitive.

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      And then Baldwin would go to Boise and become the first G5 National Champion.
      Luck o the beavs….

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        Probably true.

        Honestly, if I was Harsin I’d pass on the OSU job, a better offer will come down the line and Boise State is a pretty good gig. But that’s just me.

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    Where is the Harsin rumor coming from? An Eggers tweet earlier said OSU could take up to 10 more days to hire a coach. Also saw some beat writer outside of Oregon say Troy Calhoun would be our next coach.

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      That beat writer has zero knowledge and was his best guess. He lost any credibility when he wrote that Jimbo Fisher would leave FSU for Texas A&M and that Nebby would hire Navy’s coach.

      I wouldn’t mind Calhoun though. He’s done alright at AFA and seems like a more experienced candidate than some of the other names I’ve heard being thrown out.

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        And, for those who like me know nothing about him,,, his mother lives in Roseberg.

        http://www.nrtoday.com/sports/air-force-football-coach-troy-calhoun-visits-roseburg-the-town/article_9adbdafb-aba1-51a2-910b-c8491c5e6961.html

        The 50-year-old Air Force Academy head football coach, accompanied by his daughter, Amelia, is relishing time with family and friends. Calhoun grew up in Roseburg and graduated from Roseburg High School in 1985.

        His mother, Joan Leslie, still resides in Roseburg.

        “I believe this is the first time in seven years we’ve been back here,” Calhoun said Sunday night. “Just splendid. We’ll see how much we can pack in when it comes to fishing and golf, and seeing friends. It’s unbelievable here (weather-wise), especially in the month of July.”

        Calhoun — who was a quarterback at RHS and Air Force — is entering his 11th season with the Falcons. He’s compiled a 77-53 record at Air Force, including nine bowl game appearances.

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          My hometown! I actually went to his high school games when I was a kid

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    Let’s face it – no coach in their right mind would come here…

    Baldwin said no because he wants the Wazzu job and Barnes is crapping his big boy pants because he can’t find anyone to take the job…

    Barnes is running around trying to find someone that is willing to take the job (work for him and Ed) and they are saying no because they know there are going to better offers out there…

    Right now, J Smith is our best hope…

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      No. Just no!

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      Is it official that Baldwin said no?

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        Yes, it would have been announced yesterday or today had he accepted…

        Wazzu came calling (the acting AD is an EWU alum) and Baldwin said no thanks to Scotty and Ole Ed…

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          This makes sense because Leach has been linked to several of the open coaching positions-Arkansas in particular. I’m sure several of the others may look enticing, too.

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          I think Alex Grinch would get the offer if Leach were to leave.

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      Yeah… because no coach in the history of coaching has ever had an ego big enough to think he could fix a mess. And none has ever done so.

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        See Gary Andersen…

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          GA ‘likes to build things,’ we just didn’t realize he was going to burn VFC to the ground so OSU football could be built.

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      This does seem like what is going on…

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        So was that flight down to the Bay Area last night real and was it for trying to salvage Baldwin?

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      Personally, I hope Smith turns it down if offered. He’s been set up to fail.

      That said, it seems to be heading in that direction which is why I have re-examined the Erickson for 2-3 years idea. It would allow Smith to get more experience and Erickson could take the brunt of the rebuild punishment.

      I wonder if any coaches see that Ohio State job as an opener and think, ‘so taking over a 1-11 team and likely to lose by 50 in my first game, I’ll lose the fans before I have a chance to succeed’ making an already difficult to succeed job, nearly impossible.

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        The bar has been set at 69-10.

        Do better than that, and the new guy is good.

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          And then we can march into the future with our new slogan:

          Remember the 69!

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          That will only be avoided if Meyer wants to get his 4th QB snaps and put him in midway through the 3rd up 60-3.

          Ohio State will score as many points as they feel like scoring in that game.

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        Besides looking for another coach, Barnes should be trying to get out of that Ohio State game, too. To come off the worst Civil War loss in the game’s history and then open up the ’18 season in Columbus right out of the chute – this program just can’t take any more embarrassment, especially on a national scale. I don’t think the team will need this exercise in ‘character development’ at this point in time.

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          I’d rather get paid alot while getting blown out by Ohio State vs getting paid less while getting blown out by Colorado State, fwiw.

          At least we could use the money

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      Or maybe it was a complete rumor that Baldwin accepted that no one should’ve taken seriously.

      The coach will be announced formally when it’s time. No use panicking about something you can’t control until then.

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    I like how Egger’s says he won’t tweet rumors and then another tweet talks about how Barnes is not making a hiring decision until one potential candidate finishes coaching. Just because you won’t name names doesn’t mean it’s not a rumor.

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    OT: On a happier note, VB team makes the NCAA tournament.

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    FWIW: Troy Calhoun’s salary is $850K

    My kinda guy!!! 🙂

    The new deal increases the football coach’s annual salary by $25,000 over his previous deal to $850,000 each year.

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      Calhoun has mediocrity written all over him. We might as well bring Riley back. I bet he would come cheaper now that he has that sweet Nebraska buyout money.

      Nebraska Buyout…there’s one for poker night.

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    I’m actually leaning toward Pat Casey’s brother….lol.

    If nobody wants this job, then put a Quaker on it.

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      Nobody puts out an OSU dumpster fire better than a George Fox coach. Those calm, collected Quakers know what they’re doing!

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      Pat Casey is actually a strong Roman Catholic. He attends Mass/Church in Omaha every time they make it to the College World Series.

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        Interesting, we made the jokes because GF is a Quaker founded school.

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          No I get that, but had to inform when I could. Makes you think a little differently about the story Moron(Moran) ran during the wake of the college World Series. When I went to the first OSU vs LSU game, the LSU fans afterwards were cussing at me and calling me names in regards to that article as if one person defines the university and its fans.

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    Considering Tennessee and Oregon State, is there any rule saying a team has to have a Head Coach?

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    Tenn. turned down by the Duke coach. They will probably end up with Tee Martin.

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      Don’t forget Jason Witten too!

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      Tennessee will be lucky to end up with Fink at this rate.

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        Yup, apparently that school is run by one family of donors. And they are the ones that gave the green light for Schiano. Dont remember there names from the articles i read yesterday, but some of their local media has distain for them. It’s almost a uncle Phil scenario, except they don’t have a sports back ground and seem to fuck shit up more often than not.

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          Jimmy and Bill Haslam

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            That’s it. On one hand it would be nice to have one super rich guy giving money to the school just because. On the other hand it ends up with some narcissist holding donations over the head of the school and dictating things they have no business dictating.

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            Why do you think hole had to settle for fortune cookie?

            No successful coach wants a team owner breathing down his neck trying to make team decisions. Hence the reason CK isn’t back at hole right now.

            Also on cue, was perusing the idiot fest that is the O-live comment section and like clockwork hole fan suddenly doesn’t think Chip Is a good coach any more and they couldn’t be happier to have their seventh choice as their coach.

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    Why did Gary Andersen really quit? Let’s avoid the scandal theory for a minute. What did he notice within the athletic department and OSU administration that made him abandon ship mid season? How does a “no quit” attitude, strong minded coach quit suddenly? Who honestly walks away from $12 million? What if he finally saw what many Beaver fans have been questioning for years? A lack of total commitment to winning football games.

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      Something was building up very early in the season and he must have realized there was no fix for it. Otherwise, I though it was odd that he quit after losing games they were going to lose anyway.

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      If Danny Moron had done his normal background check, this all could have been avoided.

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        It takes time to run background checks on every athlete and coach in the state. Moron hadn’t worked his way up to GA yet.

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      I think GA was highly confident this team was good, to the point he cracked a joke like why the hell he’d be an underdog vs Colorado state. He couldn’t comprehend why it wasn’t working “it’s worked everywhere else I’ve been” and it drove him off the deep end.

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      Because he realized he couldn’t get it don and probably has a bi-polar disorder?

      He’s left everywhere he’s been before honoring his contracts hasn’t he? I read that after year one at Wisconsin he interviewed for the Cleveland Browns job. He didn’t take that obviously, just turned the Beavers into the Browns…

      I actually don’t think the guy can help himself with his drastic decision changes. .

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        I’m not seeing anything that suggests bipolar disorder.

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        I think a mild form of some disorder causes him to be impulsive. Frankly most of these coaches are probably on the edge. He just crossed over.

        The big question is does OSU make these coaches bat shit crazy, or does it draw bat shit crazy coaches? Look at Riley, he is completely delusional at this point. And if you believe columnists, Erickson wants to shuffle out on his walker to lead the team. WTF?

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          I think OSU is like the child molested girl who is so mentally defeated and broken that anyone can get with her by just showing the faintest attention. No offense to child molested girls.

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    Some good news Beaver fans, Jack Anderson and gymnast Taylor Ricci sweep the PAC-12 leadership awards. Initiated in 2001 and only the second time one school has swept the award.

    http://www.osubeavers.com/news/2017/11/27/baseball-anderson-ricci-named-to-pac-12-leadership-awards.aspx

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    The 3 coaches I see that it could be that are coaching this weekend are: Harsin, Lame kiffin, and Mike Norvell.

    According to this article: https://247sports.com/college/memphis/Bolt/University-of-Memphis-and-Mike-Norvell-working-on-contract-extension-111078851

    Norvell was rumored for the SEC openings, but his name hasn’t come up yet for them as a candidate, nor has he signed a contract extension with pay increase from 1.86 million to 2021(a 5.58 million $ buyout?) plus his assistants staff get over $2 million combined. This would move him to similar pay and in a power 5 conference and is a really good coach. Sounds plausible after reading this article too: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.commercialappeal.com/amp/315615001

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    I’ve discovered the reason Ed Ray has left the athletic department dangling in the wind; he’s devoted all his time determining whether the university should change the name of certain buildings on campus. Spoiler alert—he recommends to keep Gill Coliseum.

    http://leadership.oregonstate.edu/president/president-ray-announces-building-names-decisions

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      Ray is a fucking twit. What a bunch of nonsense.

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        Why?

        I myself thought Benton did a 180 on slavery. So I’d like to know what research was cited that suggested Ray write that he never did redeem himself. Still, I think he’s right to honor the county and not have that honor muddled.

        The point about the Benton Annex is also correct. It’s an opportunity to name it, period.

        Sorry, but Avery was scum, even for the times in which he lived.

        I now want to know when we can rename Snell a pile of rubble.

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          I could back Ray on Benton if he made an economic argument against him. Benton was like a dull stick at a gunfight when it came to monetary policy.

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            Dr. Rays explanation of the Benton thing emphasizes that Benton supported kicking Native Americans off of the land they occupied as settlers moved west.

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            It was a shitty thing to do in that regard. But that was more a product of the time. It’s not like he did to them what Columbus did to the Arawak. You might as well not name anything after any POTUS ever for all the broken treaties littering our history.

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    Heard we’ve been talking to one sitting major conference head coach, and thought that might be Matt Campbell at Iowa state. But he signed a new 6 year $22.5 mil contract yesterday.

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    Uck fan told me that willie taggarts dream job is Florida State. Says if Jimbo fisher goes to Tex a&m then Willie will go begging for the FSU job

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    Cautionary tale of firing a winning coach. Mason deserved it, but interesting points.
    https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/11/27/16704020/kevin-sumlin-todd-graham-texas-am-arizona-state-coaches-fired

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      Good article, especially the last paragraph.

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      I almost didn’t read it because of the site itself, but it’s a decent premise.

      But I think he cherry picks. There are as many middling programs that right themselves as there are who fail. And it’s as BG said, there were valid reasons for many of these people to be fired. So he seems to be directing his bias to suggest fan discontent is the only factor in the dismissals he cherry picks.

      He fails to understand that college football has become a high dollar business. And this is how those businesses work. The perception of them trends this way and that, and that dictates how successfully they can raise revenues enough to pay increasing wage demands from coaches who sell their wares. If these schools don’t break through to the highest level at least once in a blue moon, quibbling between being mediocre or average to worse just doesn’t do them any good.

      I do agree with the last part in that going out to find someone with “energy” is the wrong thing to do. If a program needs an outside influence to help them make changes within said program, that program is dysfunctional. What needs to be done is to find a steady stream of coaches who, win or lose, agree with and properly implement a unified identity as directed by the school.

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        So I would rewrite the article to concentrate on how many programs found success by implementing sound infrastructures, while others didn’t. I would actually think his premise for firing good to great coaches is an outlier that does, in fact, backfire. I would also use Dick Tomey, not Glen Mason.

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          And this from Chip Kelly; the three things FB is about.

          “I believe football is about three things: it’s about relationships, friendships and championships,” Kelly said. “You have good relationships by being honest and open in your communication, you have to be confident in what you can do, because education is about the transportation of knowledge. Through that relationship, trust is built, and high-trusting teams are the teams that win. When your team trusts each other and they go out there and lay it on the line for each other because they know everybody to the right and to the left of them gets what it’s all about, and I have great faith in that personally.”

          And…….how does “we call him Will around here” fit in to all this talk about honesty?

          Seriously though, that part about trust in the final sentence is on the mark.

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            Football is about blocking and tackling.

            But I get his point. You can’t win as a team unless you first play like a team.

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        “…a unified identity as directed by the school”

        Yes. So the bottom line question is, what is the identity of the Beavs FB team? Who is setting it?

        It’s a bit more complex than statements about opponents needing to bring their “A game”.

        EDIT: BTW, isn’t the identity of Baseball and WBB easier to, well, identify? Coincidence that they are winners?

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          I would argue that those programs recognize the identity of the school and adopt it. What Ray says about sports should be listened to, embarrassing or not. That’s the identity we want.

          The AD is the one who needs t implement it on a daily basis. And s/he will hire coaches like those you mention in order to implement it within each respective sport on a daily basis.

          I thought the earlier discussion about just hiring people from GF seems to do the job. I think this idea speaks directly to that.

          I find it interesting that college football coaches will seek out advice from their peers in the Xs and Os, but ADs don’t seem to do the same. Maybe they do? If I were an AD, I would visit places like George Fox and Linfield or fly to places like NDSU or Mount Union to see what these schools do to implement consistent quality almost seamlessly over generations.

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    Players saying they didn’t take prep seriously enough…didn’t do things right in practice..thought they could just walk into Autzen and perform…didn’t provide leadership…same thing they’ve been saying all season:

    http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/379561-266570-battered-beavers-look-forward-to-2018

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    To the pit of misery!

    DILLY! DILLY!

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    Is George Fox anywhere near Salem?

    I’m asking because I see that charter is returning to Oregon on Wednesday but instead of landing in Corvallis it’s destination is Salem.

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      Not really. Salem is home to Willamette University though

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        Perhaps Newberg doesn’t have an airport? 🙂

        Perhaps Barnes is going for a job interview (for him) at WU? Oh wait, OSU is on the hook for $850K/year and there’s no way WU can match that.

        Perhaps the Corvallis air port was scheduled to have so much activity that the plane couldn’t land there?

        It’s looking like I need to make another pot of coffee and if that doesn’t do it perhaps something stronger.

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          Apparently Willamette went 0-9 this year so who knows, maybe Barnes is interviewing their coach.

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          LOL, I thought I made it clear above that Newberg DOES have an air(park).
          Sportsman Airpark, Newberg, 2S6
          Runway Dimensions: 2755 x 50 ft. / 840 x 15 m
          Surface: asphalt, in poor condition
          RY 17/35 ALLIGATOR CRACKS, DIPS, PATCH WORK IN POOR CONDITION AND EDGE CRACKS.

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      Maybe reporters are starting to hang out at CVO, and Barnes thinks he can sneak in the side door.

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        I didn’t think of that one, which is the more obvious than the ones I listed.

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      Hillsboro would be closer for an airport, but it would require back roads instead of I-5 to Tualatin to Newberg if they’re indeed interviewing GFU coach. Maybe it’s Western Oregon’s coach or Linfield’s coach in McMinneville?

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        You can get to Newberg from Salem by taking the Brooks exit and winding up to St. Paul or driving west from Wilsonville along the river.

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          Or by taking McKay Rd west from Donald to reach Hwy 219.
          BTW the Brooks exit/Hwy 219 route is usually 10 minutes quicker than using the Donald exit, the Wilsonville exit route is slowest of the three and terminates at the soon to be recognized fiasco which is the Newberg/Dundee Bypass.

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        WOU was 3-8…a power in the D-II GNAC!

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      Or maybe Barnes is not on that plane. I know, crazy, right?

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    OMG, just heard we’re interviewing Brady Hoke this morning. And no, this isn’t a joke.