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Riley Receives Biggest Round of Applause at Recruiting Event

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What are your thoughts on this?

My reactions:

  1. The old guard who believes they can’t do any better are alive and well.
  2. This is precisely why we’re the Beavs — we lionize a mediocre coach (and “mediocre” is being generous given how he tanked at NE).
  3. Gives Duck fans ammo because it’s so embarrassing how we go back to him over and over. Similar to 1 but with embarrassment.

Go Beavs.

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        • I can think of a few things that pathetic would be a better decriptor of:

          Another recruiting class ranked in the 60’s
          1-9 in the last 10 Civil War games
          Over 50 years since going to a Rose Bowl
          A still unfinished stadium
          Tons of empty seats on gameday
          3rd coaching staff in 4 years

          • Ugh!

            Fertig, Avezzano, Kragthorpe.

            Those are the only OSU coaches since WW2 who have worse records than Bikey in the CW. We’re 5-23-1 under those coaches in a series that is 64-47-10 in Nikegon’s favor.

            Pettibone and GA (I gift this last CW loss to GA) are the only others who even have losing records in the CW. He makes their .333 records look good.

            Bikey’s in good company.

  1. Non-story and another reach as usual. God damn you guys are obsessed with that man lol. Meanwhile Alfred Hollins stuffs the stat sheet for the Beavs tonight in a blowout win. Finally injecting some D-1 athleticism into the rotation

  2. By rehiring riley we have handed ducks fans the entire narrative. Their next round of felonies does not matter. Every comment is: you losers hired that loser and you losers lover him?

  3. This topic was celebrated on Joe Beaver show today. Parker wasn’t at the dinner so he had heard the rumor about the ovation, sought input from callerts and was rewarded with all of the expected worst case confirmation. It does confirm that many just adore the guy beyond all reason and its is out of balance and out of place for Riley to be praised above JS or even the NFL guys who were in the event.
    Somewhat nauseating to think of 750 octogenarians honoring a mediocre Riley with a standing ovation aided by 600 canes/walkers. (sarcasm) But this explains the loser state of affairs that has existed since 1968.

    OT- MBB is atrocious to watch when there is no PG on the floor.
    ST blows up any timing on set plays by dribbling once too often,
    Stacy should never be on the floor at D1 level again (cringe-worthy plays with expectation of doom),
    Tres makes so many poor passes it is disheartening,
    Eubanks will never be an instinctive big man,
    Big G is the most unproductive hard worker I’ve ever seen (he hedges for 2 steps too long and gets beat at the rim over and over),
    All of these guys are the upperclassmen and should be leading with precision play, but look like they did as freshmen, very little mental toughness or precision about their approach to the game.

    Hollins, Ethan, Reichle, and X Smith will make a good core for the future with the 2 big guys coming in but it may not come together with this crew this year. They will need a magical run through the Pac12 tourny and I don’t see such extended focus as even close to possible.

      • He’s not wrong. They all hold the ball for at least one count too long. We wouldn’t need a PG if we knew how to pass the ball to beat the D.

        There’s enough talent on this team to make a tourney run and do well. But their play is inconsistent in such a way that they don’t even know how to trade hot hands, let alone move as a single mind. It’s not much more than throwing the ball out and telling them to go play. It doesn’t help me like CR’s resulting product. But it does allow me to respect the work he did at OSU that much more.

        And I will always rail against football season ticket holders getting so much sway on hoops season tickets. You guys want to always know why those seats are empty. That’s why. These same boneheads who don’t care about loyalty in the football program gobble up these seats then don’t show for most games. Real fans should be able to buy those seats.

        • No leadership, the coaches kids look like they don’t want to step on each others feet and toe the team line to a fault. Somebody needs to step up and be the “guy” and demand others to follow their work ethic and desire to get the most out of each other.

    • Tres is at Impulse a lot of nights and I see him there after every game. I know for fact he parties too much to ever take D1 basketball serious enough.

  4. I don’t care whether people like or don’t like Riley but what concerns me is that this is essentially a lack of respect for Jonathan. JS needs to command the room and show that he is the HMFIC.

    • Don’t you think the “who’s in command” thing will have to play itself out over the year? I expect JS is well aware of the situation and will emerge as clearly the leader over the next few months. You can’t “command” people who choose not to be commanded and the thing that will change that is wins that are clearly a function of actions by JS and his key staff. Some people will always yearn for the “good old days” of Riley (even Pettibone!) no matter how things go. Like Billy Joel said, “The good old days weren’t always good…” but they choose not to see that.

          • But if he’s in the booth, the cameras won’t find him yucking it up with another assistant coach on the 20 as a long scoring play rolls past him.

            That moment was possibly the most surreal thing I’ve ever seen from any coach in any sport. Throwing chairs and punching opposing players don’t hold a candle to that silent moment when the camera came off the scoring player and zoomed back to the 20 to just look at that.

    • Yup… a slap in the face of immense unprofessional dimensions.

      We were told this would not be the case… over and over.

      We were probably telling this to some of the same schmucks giving Bikey an ovation. Yet they insisted it just wouldn’t be this way.

      The nice thing is that, by their very logic, since Bikey gets paid less than many of us, they don’t get to tell us, “I think he knows more than you do because he’s paid millions of dollars to do this.” That fallacy also gets blown out of the water.

      What he did at Nebby over his last six games was no better than what GA did here. He just kept the money after he gave up… yet again. His D gave up more yardage and points than Cory Hall’s six game head coaching career. And he lucked into a single win over that span, one of a handful of wins in his illustrious .500 career where he was losing at halftime.

      It’s a friggin’ waste of a coaching position in order to reward disloyalty.

    • This should have been #4, btw. These same people were (and are) the same people who think angry was completely wrong for calling this very thing out before it happened in public.

  5. That was disappointing to hear. I suspect its rooted in the low standard thinking of “he’s-better-than-the-28-year-losing-streak-that-preceeded-him!”

    Well so is a 27 year losing streak.

    Many at OSU haven’t gotten over that streak IMO. Its the reference point to which they set goals – essentially weakly defining what they don’t want instead of defining what they want.

    Maybe if Pat Casey ever becomes AD this will change.

      • I haven’t seen Riley in the Corvallis community once since he was rehired. Not at Winco, Dollar Store, Little Ceasars, Church or even Home Depot. That’s odd. I saw him a a MBB game sitting with JS and some recruits in December, but he left at halftime and that’s been it. Where is he hiding?

    • it won’t change until Beaver Nation is no longer populated by people who came of age as fans during the 28 year streak. Presuming Beaver Nation can survive that long. BTW, that list of recruiting class rankings shows Andersen did better with (short notice, etc.) than Smith; who probably had longer to work on things that is publicly acknowledged. Notice how OSU is the only place where “short notice” is an explanation: doesn’t apply at UCLA with Chip, for example.

  6. This pretty well supports Angry’s threory that the boosters wanted Smith from the beginning and the rest of the coaching search was a charade. Pat Reser is the football expert chosen to explain why Smith was the right choice to coach OSU?
    Feels like pro sports where the team owner goes over the head of the GM to make personnel moves.
    He won some games for us as a player(along with several other talented guys), so he must be ready to win games gor us as a coach.
    Another thing I dont get is how could the audience see this video but STILL give Riley more addoration than Smith? Did Riley have an even awesomer video?

    https://twitter.com/BeaverFootball/status/961794694182137856

    • Who the fuck wasn’t expecting that 41-9 win? Why does she just babble repetitive coachspeak at us? And why does Jim say the same thing twice, a lie, btw… according to all recruits who didn’t sign with OSU.

      SJax is the only redeeming part of that video, and that also appeared to be ad hoc.

        • Precisely.

          Every Beaver fan I knew thought we were going to win by more. I was sitting next to one of my best friends from HS, a Notre Dame alum, and he turned to me in the middle of the 2nd and said, “You were so right.”

          We knew what kind of team that was. We were cheated out of the Rose Bow due to the conference accepting that BCS ranking crap. UW and OSU were the two best teams in the country that year, and UW only gets that nod because we had to play them there.

  7. as if more evidence were needed to document that this is Riley’s team, check out Moran’s latest (ostensibly on Lindgren) that talks about how OSU is going to run pro-style.

    • That should be done anyway. If it’s a dink and dunk pass happy pro style, then your worries have merit.

      I said after the 2008 and 2009 CWs that OSU would try to go spread too late, ending up on the wrong side of a fad. We’re a program that can tough it out in close wins if given that identity from the start. We had that identity after five games into the 2006 season and for a couple bright mid-seasons and up until the UW debacle in 2012 after that.

      Why do we so readily buy disloyalty and mediocrity?

      • We should be innovating and creating new offenses instead of copying old ones. My 2 QB system, for example! Or Pettibonehead’s offense might be considered revolutionary at this point.

        • We missed a good opportunity when we didn’t hire Hawkins in 2003. His ground and pound with play-action is the perfect system for OSU. It was a terrible fit at CU. Coincidentally, I think Riley’s single back, pass happy system with speed on the edges is a great fit at places like CU or ASU.

          What will be weird is watching the spread run well at UCLA. They haven’t really been relevant since Donahue’s early to mid-era… and a couple years with Toledo using Donahue’s players. I don’t know how UCLA continues to put up with Guerrero at AD, except that he was forced to abandon his usual methods and just go get a proven coach on this go round.

    • Nice cherry picking on that quote…..

      “We want to be a pro-style offense that plays fast,” Lindgren said. “We’re going to be multiple in the formations and some of the personnel groups that we give you. But we want to play with some tempo. I probably had a little bit more experience with the no-huddle and tempo than at Washington. They were a little bit slower. I think we’re going to kind of combine it.”

      Pro style with tempo. Ever seen Riley’s two minute drill keystone cops offense?

      http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2018/02/brian_lindgren_wants_oregon_st.html#incart_2box

      • Riley’s 2-minute drill:

        Run the ball a couple times. Pass a shallow cross that YACs for a first down. Take a knee and three time-outs into the locker room.

  8. I don’t care what offense we run, as long as we pick a style and stick with it, recruit to it, build around it. So tired of all of the flip flopping from year to year between offenses. We’re pro-style now? Good, let stick with it for 4-5 years at least.
    It’s like we have no…….what’s the word I’m looking for???………IDENTITY!!

  9. Does anybody know where the nickname “Niner” came from?
    Did people call Smith that back when he played?
    I keep hearing it since he was hired but don’t remember anybody using it back in his playing days, but we didnt really have much of an internet back then to hear about these things.

    • Incorrect.

      He gets this year because of the run-off rule applying to his season at the Juco he went to. He won’t give a public reasoning for what went on there, going so far as refusing requests to speak about it.

          • Meh… anything without Cliff is garbage.

            Those of us who were around the East Bay in the early 80’s thought Mustaine was a dick for the way he crashed and burned whenever anything Metallica occurred. He was still a dick, but 20/20 hindsight says Lars was the bigger dick, and a money-grubber to boot.

            I can still remember my disappointment the first time I listened to Justice for All. I’ve probably listened to it twice since then… against my expressed wishes.

          • I look at Garage Days like AC/DC’s BiB. It was commercially viable, but it was the beginning of the end of the band’s artistry. Half the songs are throwaways… which is better than anything that came after it… which makes it romantic in that it was the last of their good output. I don’t personally own it, but I can listen to it without falling asleep, unlike Justice and Metallica.

          • One good thing abut GD is that Lars doesn’t have his grubby little kit droning on like Justice and Metallica… and anything else they did that I have had the good fortune to not hear yet. Lars’ best music is other people’s music.

            And don’t think it didn’t go unnoticed that F&J’s best effort came in the 90’s when bands like Anthrax, Metallica and Death Angel were starting to suck eggs. But they strayed from thrash and went prog… which could probably be said of the others if they appeared to have a clue.

          • I really miss the early to mid-80s era of thrash metal. It disappeared in a hurry, with a couple good late efforts involving some blues and jazz fusion. But the raw church-hate was gone by that time. It was just technical riffing at that point.

          • I had a Death Angel album, don’t remember which one but it had some good songs on it. We went through a Nuclear Assault stage for a while there too.

            The thrash metal was pretty good up til about 1990. Lights/Camera/Revolution, Seasons in the Abyss and Danzig II were all great albums. It was such a stark contrast to the buttrock that was dominating popular music.

            Helmet, AIC and Pantera did a nice job holding it down in the 90s though.

          • Danzig was a little too much into the church-hate and druid stuff for me. But Lucifuge was a great album with the blues fusion. It was such a departure from everything else he’s done.

          • I didn’t know there other Lucifuge fans out there. I love that album. Haven’t listened to it for quite awhile. Time to dig into the archive.

            Seems like every Danzig album was a departure from every other album of his. But II was the high point for sure

      • Garage days re-revisited is a great album, all five songs of it. I bought it on tape at river road Fred Meyer. Master of Puppets is the pinnacle.

  10. Well let’s move on to baseball. It starts in one week!!!

    Schedule Preview – 56 total games. It’s a tougher road to Omaha this year. Non conference is beefed up more than past years. Should help the team stay sharp. Nice to not end with a cupcake like last year.

    Non Conf –
    Cal State Fullerton – made it to the CWS last year
    at Missouri St – Made it to Supers. Lost to TCU in supers. Will be a key series.
    Gonzaga – 2017 RPI 50
    New Mexico – 2017 RPI 74
    Nebraska – 2017 RPI 54 – made ncaa
    Ohio St – 2017 RPI 154
    Hartford – 2017 RPI 184
    Portland – 2017 RPI 275
    Nevada – 2017 RPI 206
    San Diego – 2017 RPI 53

    PAC 12 – Probably about the same as last year. 4-5 teams into the tourney. Hopefully will see some improvement from last year.

    Shouldn’t have to worry about RPI with series against Fullerton and Missouri St.

    Looks like the rotation will need 5 starters throughout the year with the weekday games and some non conf sprinkled in throughout the conference season.

    • I don’t know the committee screwed us 2 years ago when we needed that last series to get in and they had already made the decision we were out. I think we swept UCLA and tied for 2nd with Arizona and we were left out while Arizona made it to the final. If those games aren’t going to count at the end, I’d rather play a cupcake. They didn’t penalize us last year when we finished with Abilene.

    • Will anyone be in Surprise next weekend? It’s always fun to know AB screen names in attendance and try to pick out fans in the stands that match the name. I thought I had JockItch spotted last year but it was just some old dude with psoriasis. I should never have shaken his hand.

  11. Beaver Baseball got hosed by Meggs and the committee 2 years ago, then hosed by ESPNSEC umps last year. Yet no word from Barnes about any complaints being filed on behalf of Casey and the program. I think this is one of the noteworthy issues I have with Barnes and administration, as well as the PAC12/refs bias etc.

  12. I think the question is, “Is Johnathan Smith” the real deal and the REAL head Coach? Or is he just a figure head so Riley can implement his program without getting the ire of the Fan Base?

    I so agree about the “we can’t do any better” crowd. How can we have a Top Level Baseball program in the Pacific North West but we can’t have a decent Football program? It does still take winning first to get to that level. I have just given up on all expectations. If Johnathan Smith is our New Football Head Coach, he has an uphill battle. I will give him as much latitude as I did with Andersen. What OSU cannot afford is another fiasco like that.

    GO BEAVS!

    • Thanks for bringing us back, beavergopher; perhaps since GA is gone we could stay focused on the Bikey (I guess Trump would say Bikely) problem — although actually I’d rather ignore them both..

    • A nerve wracking game for sure! TV commentator gave Beavs lots of love, even when their play on the floor didn’t deserve it.

      Short handed Cougs seemed unable to even try for O Rebs, that made a huge difference (along with Aleah’s streak of 3’s !!).
      Credit to the Cougs interim coach, suspended three of his starters and still had his gals ready to play.

      Marie goes over 1,000 pts, here is post game vid for angry, y’all can watch too:
      https://youtu.be/OUi5prsJyRA

  13. OT: Beav softball is 3-0 with 2 wins over ranked teams at the Kajikawa classic. They start as many as 5 freshman. If they can get consistent pitching, they could make some noise this year.

  14. Back to baseball again!!!

    Pitching Preview –

    In the rotation
    Heimlich – not expecting last year’s performance but will still have #1 stuff.
    Fehmel – Looks to build off of postseason performance. Could be 1a if he does.
    Abel – A top high school pitcher. High expectations for him.
    Britton – Showed he can start but can he break into the weekend rotation?
    Tweedt – just didn’t have a spot last year. Competing for the weekday spot.

    In the bullpen
    Mulholland – quite a start to his career. I think he’s set to be first out of the bullpen.
    Verberg – solid reliever.
    Eisert – very dependable out of the bullpen. I’d think he’d be the closer.
    Gambrell – can he get rid of the yips he had last year. Needs to step up.

    Unknowns –
    Donovan – Was injured all of last year. former top prospect. Did get some work in during the summer with the Knights.
    Burns – a top pitcher out of wisconsin.
    Attalah – supposed to have good stuff. potential to crack the bullpen rotation.
    Warren – was top player out of montana in 2016. redshirted last year
    Pearce – JC add. Who knows…
    Chamberlain – Saw him in a scrimmage. Looked like he could hold his own. Likely a lefty specialist.

    Guys who need to step up – Gambrell, Tweedt
    New guys to watch – Chamberlain, Donovan, Abel

    I think Drew has been ruled out for the year. I doubt we’ll ever see him pitch at osu again.

    Overall the staff is deep. Starters who have proven they can go deep into games. A bullpen who has proven they can come in anytime to close out games. The competition for the sunday and weekday spot will be fierce. With the way the schedule is set up, Casey will probably have to use all of the guys at some point in the year.

    • Sounds like plenty of options where the cream should rise to the too and give us some solid 3 game series pitching.
      Who are the power hitters this year? Who will take Harrison’s cleanup spot. Leaving players on base pretty common last year and I dont really see a solid slugger on this team. Adley would be ok in that role if he hit for a better percentage, but I cant imagine he saw that much improvement in 1 offseason.

    • Has Casey been given any reassurances that his pitchers will have the same strike zone as the opponents this year? This is the key to a championship run. If all things are actually equal, Beavs will win another National Championship.

    • I trust I’m not doing a Trump bit with “hardly anybody knows this,” when everybody does, but “Warren – was top player out of montana in 2016. redshirted last year” – his brother, Brac, pitches for the Ducks (injured a lot last year.)

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