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Oregon State @ Nevada Pre-game Discussion

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Have at it, guys.

Obviously the big story is the Beavs getting their first road win in years. Huge game for the program in that sense. Have to get that albatross off the neck. Then we can build from there.

So far, I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Blount and Smith. We just look more like a proper football team, even if the talent is lacking. Feeling optimistic (especially with the 3 big time recruits we’ve landed in the past few weeks), but a loss to Nevada will crush some of that, so this is a big game in that sense, too.

For those of you who have scouted Nevada, let us know what you think of that team.

My gut says this will be a close game, but I like Smith’s approach on offense — play calling/efficiency might be the difference.

Beavs 27-24

145 COMMENTS

  1. Eggers has the Beavs winning on a last second FG by Choukair. Hate to see the game depend on his leg, but it could be that close.
    The Wolf Pack’s QB has thrown 3 ints in 2 games; I look for at least 1 more this week. If a pass rush materializes (Landry Payne returns?), the pass happy offense of Nevada could give up more than 1, even to the Beavs maligned secondary.
    https://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/405797-300251-kerry-says-look-for-beavers-to-notch-two-wins-in-row

    EDIT/ADD: Here’s Coach Burns, from Blitz

    Secondary coach Greg Burns is preparing his team to make plays on the ball.
    “Their quarterback is solid,” Burns said. “A senior who truly understands the system and trusts his receivers. They are going to put the ball in the air which will give us the opportunity to make plays on the ball.”

    • I think the real question can Nevada’s defense keep them from scoring? If not and especially if the run game keeps clicking like it has been it may be a high scoring game. Utimately the run game should keep the ball out of Nevada’s hands, and if they make some mistakes on offense (turnovers) it could get away from them.

      • Nevada runs a 3-3-5 base defense. Probably the same one that D coordinator Jeff Casteel used at Arizona under Rich Rod.

        If it were up to me (and it’s not) I would not use Luton against Nevada.

        • Short of an injury (to Blount, in practice), there is only one way Luton starts and that is if JS and the staff buy the notion that he has not yet been given extended game time with the first string in a “non garbage time” situation.

          If the evaluation in Fall camp was that Luton was clearly #1 then I might buy that thinking. But, it was always said that the two QB’s were very close. Now there’s game experience, at least for Blount.

          I’m with you, I’d not use Luton.

    • Just read Eggers article and they’re apparently some type of air raid. This would probably be a good time to develop some kind of pass rush or maybe dial up some blitz packages to put some pressure on their QB so he has to hurry. If he has all day back there it’s probably not going to turn out well.

  2. Vegas has the Beavers as 3.5 point underdogs, with implied odds of winning at 38% (ESPN projects 40% win probability). Seems a little low considering Nevada looked bad against a mediocre Vandy team, but we’re on the road without Artavis. Thoughts?

  3. We will need to be running the ball well. Time of possession and keeping our defense rested is key. Play Blount as it will give another running option in the game. To me this might be the most important game of this season. Turning point to build future upon.

  4. Vandy’s QB was 23/32 with over 250 yards passing and 2 TDs

    Top 4 rushers for Vandy had yards per carry averages of 8.5, 5.4, 3.3, and 4.7

    Nevada defense only had 1 sack

    Nevada leading rusher only rushed 6 times (probably because they got behind in the second half)

    To me, it seems like Nevada’s defense isn’t very good and the Beavs should be able to move the ball pretty easily. Nevada’s offense seems to be very pass heavy, which doesn’t bode well for the Beavs. As long as OSU can score TD’s and not get FG’s, this game could be a shootout.

    Here’s hoping the D can find a way to force a turnover or two and come up with critical stops to make Nevada kick FGs.

    OSU 41, Nevada 30

    • Good stats, thanks. I was listening to Dan and Nigel this morning and they were talking about the 3-3-5 defense Nevada runs. Obviously it didn’t go well for them against Vandy. Sounds like the issue is offensive lines are not use to this type of rush (d linemen are not filling the typical gaps) so I hope the Beavs can figure it out quickly.

      I also worry about getting a pass rush to disrupt their qb if they throw the ball so much.
      Hoping to see improvement of putting pressure on qb and find a way to get a couple of turnovers.

      • https://www.yahoo.com/news/1-2-3s-exotic-3-3-5-defense-202048804–spt.html

        Judging by what I do know about it, as stated above I would not want Luton the turnover machine
        back there and the D pressuring him into mistakes or getting free pot shots at him.

        Utilize the RB for blocking when needed, two tight end sets and some quick hitters. Can the receivers win 1-on-1 battles in single coverage? Too bad Togiai is still out.

        On defense I’m not sure what the Beavs can do. If there aren’t getting pressure on the QB he might have a field day. Offensively we will score some points. Win the turnover battle and use a ball control offense to keep their offense on the sidelines would be my game plan. But I don’t get paid to make those decisions.

        Go Beavs

      • Which still sucks for me because I have neither of those channels. Now if they broadcast on Disney channel or Cartoon Network I’m golden…..oh and Lifetime.

        • If you have cable, add the sports package with espnu for the weekend and then cancel it. I’ve had it for 24 hours and they don’t care at all

        • QVC and Hallmark… they’re like cockroaches on any plan.

          It’s going to be interesting when media access through cable and satellite becomes a minority. Only conferences who can pick up and broadcast their own product will be able to take advantage of any direct-to-market revenues. But you bring up a good point. Those conferences can also supplement online subs by selling pre-packaged events to some of these ubiquitous channels.

          But keeping those rights and creating that kind of infrastructure necessarily decreases per school revenue distributions. And it would take some planning and vision.

          I would imagine not many fans of any conference who did this would be very happy that they weren’t squeezing every penny of profit out of the here and now so they could build some pretty arena or stadium or whatever as soon as possible.

  5. Fortunately, there are a ton of bootleg livestream sites online that will show you ESPNU, if you don’t have a legitimate way to receive that channel with your cable package. Just be careful not to click into any of the popup ads that may show up. Just let them sit for 5 seconds and then close out of them and any popup window which may show up, and eventually the game will start showing up. For example, I found this one with a simple google search and it streams ESPNU throughout the day.

    Also, you can often find live sports streaming on youtube actually. Just go to youtube and search for ESPNU and filter for the most recent entries. You’d be surprised how many games you can watch for free this way, and youtube doesn’t have the annoying popups.
    Just get an HDMI and connect your PC/Laptop to your TV and you’ve got everything you need(except not usually in 1080p)

    Another option, go to reddit and search for “ESPNU Livestream” or “college football livestream” and there will be threads on gameday with tons of options for most games, especially the ones broadcast on the bigger networks, like ESPN

  6. Still confused why Luton is still in the mix to start? Anyone have this kid’s overall stats as a Beav? Can’t be pretty… He must be a real nice guy cause he’s a shitty football player on gamedays

    • I remember seeing a few articles in preseason that mentioned him as one of the leaders of the offense. Those kinds of guys usually get more chances at a job based on personality alone. It’s harder to be a vocal leader when you’re not actually playing. Then again, it’s also hard to be a vocal leader when you’re the one dragging your team down by playing poorly…

  7. I hate that Luton is still even talked about. He’s lanky, slow, and his accuracy is shit, especially his deep ball.

    I’m callin’ him the abortion because he kills the offense before it even starts.

    I’m going to hold on to faith that Smith sticks with the hot hand, but if he plays Luton he proves he’s just as incompetent as the zombie mentor Riley.

    • Luton only got in the game once it was out of hand. Smith is clearly favoring Blount as the starter.

      I suspect Luton gets reps because of the injury possibility. Beavs haven’t had a QB start the entire season for a while due to injury. There’s also the possibility the team took exception to Blount refusing to burn his redshirt last year and have made it clear to smith that they don’t respect Blount.

      • That’s an interesting possibility; I didn’t like Blount refusing to burn his RS either. However, I haven’t seen any indication in player interviews or in the press to convince me that the team isn’t at least equally supportive of either QB.

        The possibility of an injury certainly is reason to have a #2 ready. Maybe the Markus Greaves theory is valid?

      • Hating on Blount for using a RS year is just dumb as all get out. He had reasons. He discussed it with the coaches. It was promised to him.

        Any player who feels like it’s about them is only correct insofar as their respect for these decisions extends to them when they need to make them. And it’s not like he was on a ship last year. He was paying to go to school.

        People have lives, and they get to discuss them and plan them and execute them to the best of their abilities. It’s not about you.

  8. Anyone catch JS on radio with Brandon (I’m always ready for a drink) Sprague?

    Per Sprague’s twitter, he reads between the lines and concludes Bradford will play this week.

    Sprague also writes: “Smith said both guys will see action this weekend. I think Blount starts and even if Luton plays (he will) but if Blount does what he’s been doing, IMO, he should be the starter.”

    Gress at the GT has it a little different: Smith did say there is a potential that both Conor Blount and Jake Luton would see action.
    “I think we need to,” Smith said. “… We’re going to start a guy, get behind him and let him go. But I do feel confident if we need a spark from another, put him in.”

  9. At least it’s somewhat original, manly type of shit.

    Saw a blurb about fortune cookie’s fucking *backpack*.

    A.

    Fucking.

    Backpack.

    That’s some weak ass shit right there.

    An axe? Fuck yeah, I can get behind running out with an axe, especially a double bit. Probably not the first or only team with one but I can still get behind it.

  10. PHIL STEELE REPORT (#107 Oregon State @ #73 Nevada, 9/15/2018)

    These two teams are close experience wise but Nevada is in the 2nd year of Jay Norvell and has a much stronger (and larger) defense than a year ago. Oregon State has a young thin team. Norvell is 4-1 ATS at home vs FBS teams. OSU RB Jermar Jefferson rushed for 238 yds and 4 td’s, the 3rd highest rush total in school history and teams with Artavis Pierce for a solid 1-2 punch at RB. OSU scored on 7 of 8 1H possessions with Blount at QB and led 38-0 and coasted vs Southern Utah. The beavers have lost their last 20 road games SU (5-14-1 ATS in that span). Last week Nevada trailed Vanderbilt 17-10 at the half including a 7 yd TD drive after a Nevada fumble. Nevada opened the 2H with punt, int, stop on downs, fumbled PR, stop on downs, and an INT and lost by 31. Nevada is the stronger team and is at home but this will be a competitive game.

    NEVADA 40 OREGON STATE 36

    Position by Position Edges:

    WHEN OREGON STATE HAS THE BALL:
    Oregon State QB/WR’s vs Nevada DB’s: NEV +0.54
    Oregon State RB’s vs Nevada LB’s: ORST +0.41
    Oregon State OL vs Nevada DL: ORST +0.53

    WHEN NEVADA HAS THE BALL:
    Oregon State DB’s vs Nevada QB/WR’s: NEV +1.63
    Oregon State LB’s vs Nevada RB’s: ORST +0.33
    Oregon State DL vs Nevada OL: NEV +0.98

    MISCELLANEOUS:
    Special Teams: NEV +1.94
    Kicking Game: NEV +0.12
    Coaching Staff: NEV +0.50

    POSITIONAL EDGE: NEV +4.43

    Projected Final Statistics (ORST – NEV)
    Rushing Yards: 206 – 164
    Passing Yards: 202 – 348
    Yardage Total: 408 – 512
    Total Points: 32 – 40
    Experience Rankings: 73 – 64
    Team Schedule Strength: 35 – 90

    COMPUTER TOTALS:
    Las Vegas Line: Nevada by 3
    Las Vegas Total: 69 Points
    +/- Ratings: Nevada by 9.5
    Game Grade: Nevada by 7.8
    Computer Yards: Nevada 512-408
    Computer Points: Nevada 40-32

    Calculated Margin of Victory: Nevada by 9

    Reply

      • Yeah that’s pretty funny. They put up 400 yards and 31 points vs Ohio State but oh no here comes juggernaut Nevada. Glancing at their #s vs Vandy it looks like they went RB by committee and all of their backs had decent success vs Nevada. Initial guess is that Jefferson is gonna break off the handle in these guys.

    • Steele wrote this when?
      Unlike the kid from Nevada who says Jefferson is questionable for the game, Steele implies that AP is part of the group playing in Nevada when he says, “Jermar Jefferson … teams with Artavis Pierce for a solid 1-2 punch at RB.

    • Seems like a coin flip game. We can’t turn it over and must play a clean game to win.
      We know own the losing streak that seemed to have a permanent residence in Lawrence, KS.

  11. Southern Utah plays at Arizona at 8:00 Saturday night. We’ll know where we stand vs Arizona for next week. The S&P+ predictions have Arizona beating SUU by 10.

    • Good find, Jack. Posted it to the twitter feed and Jermar wins it with 65 votes. 2nd place remained at 15.

      Meaningless, but I’m sure Jefferson will appreciate the fans having his back and getting him this little feather in his cap.

  12. I always hated these “trap” games when a so-so team from a weaker conference came to Corvallis.

    An apathetic, small crowd coupled with over confident players and we got smacked. Nevada better be careful or it will happen to them.

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