Have at it, gentlemen. Any topic goes. My question: what are you looking for with the rest of this season? For me it’s off the field with recruiting. Looking for defensive difference makers at both the prep and Juco levels. On the field, not much…maybe to see if Jefferson can somehow get more National exposure and Heisman talk (long shot/impossible, I know). Other than that, just continuing to play hard and fight even though they’re clearly undermanned (Smith is the General Custer of coaches).
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First. Bishes
1. Continue the productivity on offense
2. Improvement on defense
3. Games competitive into the 2nd half
4. A victory
5. No significant injuries
6. Evidence of a new culture taking hold
7. Excitement and reason for optimism
Well put.
I think 2 is too weak. We’ve regressed on D. And it’s not because of any of the excuses people want to keep rolling out. We’ve had one good almost half of D, against Nevada. The rest is just us holding on for dear life.
At some point, either the D will turn on. If it doesn’t, then it’s a coaching thing.
Period.
Apparently my “or” button is broken.
I’d change (2) to something like, halt the hemorrhaging on defense.
This is another way of saying Jack’s “At some point… the D will turn on.” I think it will also require a game where all three phases work as intended.
Remember the good old days when there was only one thing on the list?
1. Find an identity.
Nope.
Do you really need all the other items on the list… assuming this is a wish-list?
Btw, what is this list supposed to convey? Is it a wish list? Was that why it was well put?
Ahhh… just saw the pertinent question.
So… identity was the least of our worries. The problem was that we already knew our identity. And that identity had nothing to do with being a champion of anything at anytime ever… not even by fluke.
Use your words, or they’re as childish as your silence.
So far Mike Riley is BY FAR the best recruiter on staff. Let’s hope the other boys start step up SOON…
Mike Riley’s connection certainly helped get the door open for the Nebraska transfers, but ultimately Coach Smith did recruit Gebbia when he was at Washington: https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2017/tristan-gebbia-2292
Avery Roberts was coached and recruited by Bray: https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2017/avery-roberts-685
Tyjon Lindsey was being recruited by both Washington and Colorado:
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2017/tyjon-lindsey-2566#school-interests
Addison Gumbs was being recruited by Oregon State, Hawaii(LEGI SUIAUNOA DL coach and then promoted to DC following year), Nebraska(Trent Bray), Washington, and CAL(Greg Burns was the Safeties coach at the time for CAL):
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2017/addison-gumbs-10650
So really, it was a mix of coaches that probably talked to all 4 of these players at one point in time to come to their given schools. Some have indirect contact, others direct contact. Also, selling immediate impact and immediate playing time doesn’t hurt either. Whatever Coach Smith and Co. are selling, I’m buying based on the energy, improvements throughout each week. They’ve put together 3-3 1/2 Quarters of work before they imploded on themselves against WSU. If we can play a game all 4 Quarters at the end of the year, we’ll have a chance to upset someone in the back half of the schedule. The bye comes at the perfect time. Look forward to see what Cookus, Lindgren. and Smith can come up with with 2 weeks to prepare for trick plays and execution to said plays.Unfortunately, I don’t see us getting many turnovers this year for this team, but plenty to go against this team. sad, but true.
And I would add the part about being eligible next year because of enrolling by the October 8th deadline. I’m sure that went along with the playing time piece of not having to sit out a year.
Let’s just hope these guys mesh well in the locker room and with the current players. Something I wonder about is how does this affect recruiting. Are there any guys we lose because they see 4 star guys coming in and being ahead of them. I hope not because depth is an issue and we need multiple guys at many positions. Or does this attract other top talent wanting to play with these guys.
I would say if they want to decommit because of these players coming in, then so be it. We want guys who are willing to compete in practice and be a team player/contributor. I would say this actually helps them come in because of the new Redshirt rule. I guarantee you all new recruits will see the field at some point next season and not in garbage time. As JS and Co. have shown, we play anybody and everybody at all positions this season.
I wonder if the new red-shirt rule will help teams like ours with starters and be not so good for our depth as second stringers can leave possibly for a starting job in a lower division.
What’s stopping them from leaving and going to a lower division with the old rule? The new rule allows them to be able to play for 4 games and realize they are in the wrong league. If we’re getting players who are transferring to the FCS schools, then we need new coaches who aren’t recruiting FCS talent. If you’re talking about lower FBS schools, then you must be watching a different OSU team, cause this team needs help, and needs it now.
On another note, the staff is doing very good with rotating young guys in and out, at least on offense from what I’ve seen. If Jermar gets a long run, like the holding play against Timmy, they’ll pull Jermar for a play or two to let him catch his breath. Otherwise, they let starters play a series then switch them up. The depth at OL may be an issue since we don’t have any current OL commits. I’m not sure if we’re hitting them very hard this season for a reason or not(NiceBeaver could clarify this for us). If you look at who we recruited and have commitments from already, you’ll see more Defensive players, especially DL than offensive players. WR and TE depth are the two areas on offense we could use besides OL depth. Right now offense would win us games if we actually had an average defense, but we don’t.
Is denying one’s child the opportunity to learn evolution a form of child abuse?
I’m not talking about teaching them the alternate, supposedly Christian perversion of what the creator of ID must have thought was science, something actually based on evolution itself. People can believe in anything they want.
But why are we allowing anyone in a civilized society to deny knowledge and empowerment to children? A denial of knowledge is different than programming a belief. To what degree is ignorance this humiliation so bad that these children can’t tolerate the stupidity with which they were programmed?
*humiliating
Dude didn’t come to play school!
That’s nice.
Thanks for your input.
I see the Presidunce is at it again… well… the Smeagols who stroke his ego have written some pseudo-studious talking points and even hyperlinked print ads as supporting sources.
They must think their base is really really stupid.
Not the base, just you. And you fell for it!
Oh… so Dumbshit is just joking?
Whew!
I thought some of the dumbest tripe ever written, supported by easily controverted sources, might actually be an honest attempt to govern.
Silly me.
Nice try…
Try?
Those are your options.
Either the really stupid op-ed that has a lie or easily controverted and really stupid statement in literally all but two or three sentences and links to print ads as if they’re real reports of something substantial is a real attempt to govern, or it’s a joke not obvious to people who can think.
Seriously, though, literally all but two or three sentences. I fudge a little because one is a little hazy on the context, and not in a “Dumbshit just doesn’t make sense when he talks about anything having to do with just about anything,” way.
It clearly wasn’t written by him.
The Presidunce, he’s got his wars,
Nobody knows just what they’re for,
For the really simple version of the most conservative idea anyone can think of:
http://www.pnhp.org/facts/what-is-single-payer
Or, for the tldr crowd, there is a youtube explaining it with donuts. It actually cites sources that aren’t just ads taken out in the paper.
You may have seen USC Safety Bubba Bolden is leaving USC because he was banned from the football team for something like 28 months(or until some guys who run a frat house graduate) because he drank at a party and scared somebody.
No citation, no arrest, just suspended for being…..well……not a frat guy from USC.
So, he became eligible to transfer anywhere and be eligible to play next season, so long as he enrolls by the beginning of Fall term. Originally USC tried to limit him to just the ACC and Big10 conferences, for some reason. But that block was lifted. Unfortunately for us, our enrollment period is now closed.
It’s too bad the timing didn’t work out just a few days earlier, because he could have re-joined his former HS teammate Tyjon Lindsey at OSU. Bolden was ranked top 60 in his class in 2017, similar to Lindsey.
Sounds like he got into it with the wrong really rich spoiled brat.
Maybe I should watch what I’m saying. That cowardly really rich spoiled brat will likely be POTUS one day.
Remember to take your pills with a full glass of water
Are you gonna go off on red and blue pills again?
You must be a lizard person.
Two Silurians walked into a bar…
And his suspension began back in August, but the school didn’t let him know they planned to extend the suspension through 28 months until just the other day, but at that point it was too late for him to transfer to the vast majority of schools. So really, the school did limit where he could transfer to, by basically wasting a year of his eligibility by moving slowly. Have to wonder if the timing was purposeful.
I can’t imagine there are many schools where you could still enroll for Fall. How many schools go later than OSU? Has to be very few.
That’s alot of schools to keep track of.
I know Washington Huskies have until Oct 16th to add classes.
UCLA has through Oct 19th.
He also mentioned some schools have an 8 week “mini semester” which he could potentially join and still qualify for next season. I have no idea which schools provide that option though.
Interesting, odd that OSU has their last day so much earlier considering they’re all on quarter systems.
Pretty absurd that an 8 week mini-semester works but summer classes don’t count.
I don’t know when they started this, but OSU started school on a Thursday(September 20th). I don’t remember that being the case back when I was there, and they usually didn’t start until sometime during the last week of September. But that was a long time ago
UCLA started on the 24th so it seems like a college can make the last date whatever they want.
I also take umbrage with comparing 9 to one of the greatest military blunders in American history.
Now on that I can agree with you, Jack.
Both should have brought their Gatling guns……
I want them to…..
Keep their oars in the water
Keep rowing.
Embrace the culture of serving and giving.
Wait, wrong shitty football team. Hard to keep them straight. Both suck.
I know it is a sin to post about an article from Oregonlive but there is a new article on coaching salaries. The salaries are out of control if you ask me. No wonder are kids are coming out of school with up to $50k in debt. Ridiculous. But it might also show or correlate to where schools and conferences rank.
The Pac-12 average ranks them at #5 of 11 conferences (taking all coach salaries into equation).
Peterson highest in Pac-12 = Total pay: $4,377,500, Max bonus: $1,050,000 – School buyout as of 12/1/18: $26,354,166 (had to include this as it is unbelievable). Smith is #11 in Pac = Total pay: $1,900,008, Max bonus: $1,275,000, School buyout as of 12/1/18: $4,037,517
SEC is 2nd highest paying conference for coaches with Nick Saban on top, Alabama, at $8,307,000 and Big 10 is #1 conference with Urban Meyer on top, Ohio State, at $7,600,000. Buy out were not listed.
TV money and stadium sizes. Not surprising.
This whole notion that a school can prevent a SA from transferring to particular schools is outrageous. I understand why schools (and I mean ADs) want this ability, but does anyone know how the NCAA justifies this? Shouldn’t the SA’a education be the priority? If they want to go to a specific school to get a specific degree, then a coach’s grudge shouldn’t get in the way of that. Maybe that’s how exceptions are granted?
Agreed. An SA should be like a free agent when available for a transfer.
I think it should depend on the timing. SAs shouldn’t be allowed to transfer within the conference or to any upcoming competitor until after the season if they show up for fall ball. And if they participate in spring ball, they should probably be disallowed for the following season. But I agree they should be given more freedom with some hard dates and rules. It shouldn’t be left to a coach’s subjective mood.
I’d be fine with that rule as long as coaches aren’t allowed to quit to take another job until the end of the season that they began coaching, including bowl games. What’s good for the gander…
Maybe coaches should be required to publicly announce their intent to leave their current gig before they are allowed negotiate with another school? Seems only fair.
Or coaches should have to ask the team for permission to interview and the SAs can make a list of team the coaches can’t have contact with?
Maybe schools can grow some backbones and stop allowing coaches to run rough-shod over them and their SAs.
I think the NCAA should institute a payroll cap for athletic departments. Then we’d see some real whining.
“Shouldn’t the SA’a education be the priority?”
Transferring in college football is almost never about the student athlete’s education. We’re happy now because we are benefiting from these transfers but if lets say Jermar Jefferson left for USC after 4 games, we’d be up in arms.
Well, according to this article that transfer rule in gone as of October 15th.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/2018/06/13/new-ncaa-rule-prevents-schools-blocking-transfers/698465002/
Was there another Nebraska player who Frost banned from transferring to OSU or was that internet rumor? Will they be able to transfer where they want in a few more days with this rule change?
Looks like it. I think the deadline has passed for enrollment for this term but it could still happen easily enough.
couldnt bell enroll I’m winter, spring and summer and be eligible next year if he transferred to OSU if he hadn’t been blocked by frost.
Hey nicebeav any idea on what final positions they’re trying to fill this class with.
Adam from Blitz was on the Dam Podcast today. He said he thought they only had 7 spots left to fill and 5 of those would go towards O and D lines. I think he said 3 o line and 2 d line or vise versa.
Thx. That’s good to hear.
I don’t think we take 3 O-Linemen, unless a can’t miss 3rd prospect comes along. Seems high, considering we return several young guys and we also have 2 from the last 2 classes who haven’t started practicing with the team yet (Bowcutt and Levangood, although I don’t know if Bowcutt will be back from mission in time for camp next year)
I do think we take 3 more D-linemen. At least 1 JC DT and another JC DE. Then another freshman DE. Just my guess.
We’ll also take another TE and at least 2 defensive backs(1 transfer or JC)
From there, I would hope we start looking at getting a kicker on scholarship to immediately take over starting duties next season.
These projections always start out with “we only have 7 spots left” or whatever the number is each year, but eventually we end up signing several more. The main thing is I expect Smith to keep at least 2 scholarships open for transfer potential.
JUCO DE with a new offer today. Out in Illinois, which means Tibesar is likely meeting with him in person today.
https://twitter.com/ray_vohasek/status/1050435161089863680?s=19
One offer. https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Raymond-Vohasek-120399/RecruitInterests/
3 offers now. Louisiana Tech offered too.
Now it shows he’s interested in Iowa, but no offer: https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/ray-vohasek-232816
Not planning to take these beatings lying down! Have to fight and keep fighting even though the team is getting hit by Mike Tyson level haymakers at every exchange. Have to learn to block and slip those left hooks!
https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/1050247847931572224
So what’s their angle? Trying to influence the point spread? Or trying to make the game look safer than it is?
Just a year ago they were overly aggreaaive calling these helmet to helmet calls. Seems odd they would go the opposite direction with it
They did name names… or name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodie_Dixon
Ha!
#GlassesRef
pretty blown away that JS has gotten four 4-star transfers. Took the top 3 recruits from Nebraska’s class, holy crap. If you factored these guys into our 2017 class we’d be way up the rankings. Along with Isaiah Hodgins we now have five 4-star guys in a single class for probably the first time ever. We haven’t been this hot in recruiting since we won the fiesta bowl.
Devil’s advocate – you got to look if they are impact players. They didn’t do much at Nebraska once they got there. So are they all hype? What would make them any better here?
They’re better than the players currently on the roster?
They don’t hate the coaching staff (allegedly)?
They like the weather better?
They like playing in front of a more intimate sized crowd?
Sounds like they are playing some of the wire tap audio today in the FBI/Adidas trial.
This guy seems to have the most timely coverage.
https://twitter.com/PeteBrush?s=09
I’m going to be so pissed if our basketball teams are unspectacular middle of the pack (pac) types this season. We’ve been “waiting until next year” for way too long. Surprised the women are getting no respect and I think the men better sneak up on some people otherwise wtf are we doing with Tinkle?
I thought I was seeing the WBB team picked around #10 nationally?
Seems about right, they rode Marie Gulich pretty hard last year and we haven’t seen what her replacements can do, aside from Grymek, who was a big drop off. Hopefully the freshman are as good as we hope, but they’re still true freshman.
Should see a nice improvement in guard play with Pivec moving over so Slocum can run point, with Goodman and Simmons backing them up.
The other positions don’t change much other than 1 more year of maturity, but they were already solid to begin with. Should be a fun season.
I like Slocum’s confidence. Should be a good leader for this group.
For the MBB team……meh…..
We have some talent, but still no true PG ready to run the show…..so it will probably be similar to what we’re used to.
Team media session from media day yesterday, with Rueck, McWilliams and Slocum fielding questions. Around 9 minutes in, Slocum gets asked a question “with the game on the line, which of your 3 posts are you going to feed for the final shot?”
The thing that worries me, is she chooses to go with Grymek as our best post player. That’s all I need to know about the 2 new freshman and their readiness in year 1.
Of course, this scenario requires a post player to take the shot. In reality, our post players aren’t going to be shooting the ball much this year and will be in there more for defense and rebounding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAuOvdypU9U&feature=youtu.be
I have a feeling we will be seeing the best beaver womens basketball teams ever over the next three years.
We got to meet Katie a couple weeks ago at a volleyball game. Super nice girl; she was great with my 10 year old son, who knew exactly who she was when we saw her. He’s kind of a little Beaver Super Fan.
Excited for the WBB season to get under way!
Yeah, meh on the mbb for sure. Hope I’m wrong but just not much to feel hopeful about.
We switched from mbb tix to wbb this year, less expensive and better product
Scott Frost flat out says the reason he blocked Bell from going to Oregon State is because we’re on the quarter system and it’s unfair to Nebraska that Bell doesn’t have to sit 1 year if he goes to a quarter system team and enrolls for Fall 2018. Except he didnt block any other quarter system teams.
Making up his own rules on the fly. Not a good look for Nebraska.
https://twitter.com/AndrewWardKLKN/status/1050422263777058816?s=19
Idk. Arbitrary decisions worked for GA.
Now this:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24958550/nebraska-scott-frost-thinks-oregon-state-tampered
a) They probably did, every school likely does
b) I am glad if they did because it indicates they are in it to win
c) Frost is a crybaby
Hey, take c back you big poopyhead meanie! *sniffle*
Those poor Frosty bastards. What a little whiney bitch. At least we have the Schadenfreude from frost and chips records this season, it almost makes up for the years they ran rough-shot over rileys teams.
From what I understand, after Monday bell could announce his transfer again and be unrestricted in the schools he can go to. A new rule goes into effect on Monday that allows no limits to the schools to athletes can transfer to.
Temporary delay is all it is.
The timing is the important piece here. Frost didn’t want Bell transferring to a program where he could still enroll academically for Fall term and then play next year. By blocking the OSU transfer, he’s effectively telling Bell that he can leave, but he can’t play the rest of this year or next year. With Bell being a JC guy, Frost has created a scenario where Bell’s eligibility will be expired, unless he graduates and transfers somewhere, or finds another program where he can still fit into Fall 2018 enrollment.
This seems wrong. I know some coaches and schools worry about themselves and not the student athlete but come on, grow up. These coaches have all their life to coach. Some of these players have a few years or in this case one year to play the sport they love. They may never play again. This is getting out of hand the power these coaches have and how poorly treated some of these players are getting treated. I hope Bell goes wherever he wants and can play next year.
Changes to the transfer system that go into effect on Monday will invalidate instructions like those issued last week by Nebraska. The new rule, a step aimed to bring reform to transfer process, allows a student-athlete to notify his or her school of a desired transfer.
The school then is allowed two days to place the student-athlete into a database of transfers. Restrictions on permission-to-contact for transferring players will no longer exist.
Way I understand that, he’ll be able to go where he wants on Monday.
Not sure which article that’s copy/pasted from, but it leaves out some important details. The new rule will allow players to contact any team they want, in order to discuss transfer, only after a player tells his current coach about his intent to transfer(and after a 48 hour waiting period)
This doesn’t mean the conference still can’t adopt a rule to block players from transferring to specific schools.
So if the conference decides “we think players shouldn’t be able to transfer within the conference or to any team the coach decides the player can’t transfer to, then the player must follow our rule”
Basically, the NCAA is allowing communication, but still giving the conference the authority to make their own arbitrary rules.
Also, the penalty for tampering, or talking to a recruit before they’ve passed the 48 hour waiting period, will be much more severe going forward.
So if the Big10 says “we’ll leave the blocking list up to the discretion of the coaches”, then Frost will still get his way in these matters. It’s really just a rule designed to curb tampering, but every article I read tries to make it sounds like a player can go anywhere they please, which isn’t the case.
I would assume that on the 15th each conference is going to have a release about their official policy regarding this new rule. You’d think that they would all at least have no in conference transfers. Unless they all got together and decided to leave it up to the coaches, any conference that allows free transfers would seem to have a recruiting advantage over the ones that don’t.
Couldn’t another conference say “we ignore all other conferences rules and anyone can transfer to schools in our conference?”
I think the Big Ten could say that schools can block inter-conference transfers but not sure how a Big Ten rule could block intra-conference transfers unless the other conference decides to follow the Big Ten’s rule.
Frost was an assistant at UO under Chip Kelly from 2009-2012. When it comes to shady recruiting,something about glass houses comes to mind.
This is college football, everyone throws boulders and live in glass houses.
Maybe I missed it? Is Bell actually interested in OSU? Seems like it will be tough to get carries for awhile IF Pierce and Jefferson stay healthy, so I wouldn’t think OSU would be completely ideal. Still a bitch move by Frost. I don’t think Bell was even an old regime recruit?
Go full wildcat. No qb, three rbs.
No QB – so basically, the Anderpants plan
You’re right. Doubt a. 2×2 comes for 3rd on the depth chart carries.
If I read Nemec’s article correctly, Tyjon has to pay his own way fall term because he was blocked from transferring to OSU also.
Canzano wrote something that made sense today. I got the bends and a nosebleed from shock.
No thanks
Canzano is a deceiving coward and no longer relevant.
Who is this Canzano?
It’s an Italian turnover, usually savory and salty.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see the Beavs offer this Juco OT out of Illinois, like the DT from earlier today.
https://twitter.com/jaboyjosh/status/1044734508694671367?s=19
Orlando Robinson chooses Fresno St hoops over the Beavs
OT – S-I on Cristobsl’s emphasis on building from the lines…
I’ll actually be rooting for the Huskies this Saturday…
https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/10/11/oregon-washington-mario-cristobal-ducks-offensive-line
Men’s soccer beat Stanford for the first time in 7 years. Team is young and showing lots of poise. (que the soccer haters)
https://osubeavers.com/news/2018/10/11/mens-soccer-beavers-knock-off-no-10-stanford-1-0.aspx
I like the coach too. Local guy. Brother of Kevin boss, former giants tight end. Hopefully he sticks around for awhile.
Got the Beaver football blues? There is a baseball game this weekend at a11AM. I sure it is free.
I’m immune to the blues for football. Either we win the conference, or, well, there’s always next year.
Seriously: who in college football plays defense well? Consistently?
Utah unfortunately.
Just saw a PAC 12 ad, no beavers, maybe because a bye week…next year they better be showing Jefferson highlights…
Or else.
Utah is so fucking annoying. How did a cappy Mt West school “academicically” end up in the Pac-12?
They are annoying. The bullshit home cooking they used to get in the MW used to burn my ass. I don’t mind their coach and they usually play hood defense which I appreciate. It’s funny that they’re never worth a shit on offense.
*good defense
Saw an OSU fan on twitter claiming Andrea Aquino will redshirt this year due to some undisclosed medical reason.
Bummer
I think she’s going back to The Philippines to run the government for a year.
Today, the NCAA decided to waive the remaining 1 year sitting period for UCF transfer QB Noah Vedral who now plays for Scott Frost today at Nebraska. He also will keep this as his redshirt season if he only plays in 4 games the rest of the way.
So, no only does Frost get away with maybe possibly tampering by being in contact with Vedral before transferring to Nebraska, but he also gets the waiver via arbitrary ruling in the middle of October. (Vedral is from Nebraska, so they probably went with the family hardship waiver for a sick/ailing grandparent or some BS excuse)
Anyway, I don’t have a problem with it, I just hope Frost stands up for what’s right and refuses to play Vedral since it’s unfair to other teams.
And I hope the rest of you don’t roast @scott_frost on twitter for shits and giggles.. ;)
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1051114289577254917
Loss free Saturday…. enjoy.
Our defense is so bad thats not a guarantee.
Like most weekends, our D hasn’t made a single tackle
At least the PAC offensive player of the week won’t have played against the beavs..
I’m glad we still grt to cheer for Nebraska to lose this year.
Currently down 14-7 to Northwestern before halftime
What’s going on with Florida and Vandy?
Did anyone see the hit that almost started a fight… while an injured player was lying on the field with trainers around him?
Wtf, SEC?
Champs back on the field today, go Beavs!!!
No way to watch exhibition baseball game is ridiculous. Set up a stream. Another athletic department failure.
#TPB lose in overtime to go 0-6 for the first time in school history. Fan relationship with their coach turning a bit…frosty.
They might be worse than da Beavs.
Got a bad feeling about the UW/Quack game. Huskies have been scraping by on one-score wins against poor to mediocre competition. Look ripe for the upset. Don’t fail us now, pups
Mario is a terrible coach, though. Peterson should handle him.
Possibly the only actual test the ducks will face this year besides at WSU in 2 weeks.
Stanford has shown they aren’t great, but still good enough to eek out a win at Autzen. Is UW better than Stanford?
I’m not sure if UW is better than Stanford. They seem pretty even. I do think Washington is better than Oregon, and they have the coaching advantage. I picked Washington 31 to 24 on Twitter.
One Huskermax poster gets it:
“But if Riley was still coaching, and this team was 0-6 after a loss like today, the entire state of Nebraska would be aflame now, with a couple million Nebraska fans rioting.”
My bro was there LOL. Frost is an idiot for not kicking the FG. The bad snap was a thing of beauty.
The more I read about Frost, the bigger a hypocritical asshole he seems to be. I’m hoping his only win is against Bethune-Cookman, but Illinois is bad also, so he might go 2-10.
Crap. My Golden Rodents outplay Ohio State in the Shoe but lose.
That really shouldn’t be targeting. Herbert ran right into the guy.
When did Choker transfer to Washington?
Terrible playcalling in the redzone.
Yuck.
Petersen didn’t do well on those final two drives. Cost them the game by relying on a poor FG kicker (guess that’s where J. Smith learned it from?).
That was my thought, neither were aggressive and it cost them. Go for touchdowns in the college game.
Petersen played to not lose……and he lost. How can you not trust Browning to throw the ball once?
Maybe missing JS’s play calling…
Since baseball isn’t posting anything, I hear the Beavs won 4-0 and 8-2 today…
So..we’re still national champs?
Pending background checks by Danny M.
Better be watching the UCLA CAL game, Cal is really struggling. Not sure if it’s enough to give hope to the Beavs next week.
Unfortunately for us, Cal’s run game is better than their pass game, so they’re likely to lean heavily on it next week.
I didn’t know Adam Sandler coached Iowa State!
Water sucks. Gatorade is better
Just add a ton of salt and sugar and a little bit of artificial flavoring to your water, and they’re the same thing.
Oh damn, Nebraska 0-6 for first time in school history…so far even Frost can’t build the Big Red Nation Time Machine..
Suicide watch for the state of Nebraska. And they were worried Riley would ruin their sellout record.
I was so distracted by the other games today, I missed BYE rushing for 400 yards on our D
Bye’s RB is a shoe in for offensive player of the week.
“That Husky field goal looked pretty good to me.” Alex Serna
“Right down the middle.” Direct quote from Choukair per Beaversedge
Alexis’ brother?
I don’t have any confirmation, but just a “hunch” that the Beavs are going to bring in 2019 4* Olineman Jason Rodriguez for his 5th and final visit.
Would be an uphill battle to land him, as he’s a current USC verbal commit and comes from a family of USC fans, but….you never know.
Hopefully on our side is coaching stability and immediate playing time. Not sure how much longer Helton lasts at USC.
Anyway, worth keeping an eye on for now…
Half the battle is getting them on campus, right?
Especially if it’s their last visit. Show’s we’re at least swinging for the fences in some cases rather than settling
It’s always been about the numbers. The more we get on officials, the more we get committed. Thhe more we get committed and playing, the better the team looks, making it a more desirable official visit to see what’s going on.
But if you don’t even try, why bother? And then don’t make excuses on top of that.
There were some rumors that Chad Johnson(Ochocinco) was making the trip up this weekend, but those are false. He wont be coming up, but it’s possible his son could still make it, although at this point I’d put the chances of that happening at less than 50%
Looking for the signature win for this group vs Cal! Was at the game a couple years ago in Berkeley and the fans were really drunk and rude, haven’t forgotten about that…
Jefferson quietly the best RB in the country???
If he stays on pace he has a good chance of breaking LMJ’s Pac12 freshman rushing record.
Unfortunately for us, the run game is Cal’s strength on offense.
The fraudulent officiating to protect the conference teams in the CFP race is infuriating.
This whole targeting thing has reached ridiculous proportions.
Agree.
Brandon mcilwain, Cal’s starting QB is a turnover machine. 7 picks and 4 lost fumbles in 3 games! Doubt he’ll be the starter this week.
That’s the only key to the game. He plays, we got a very good shot at winning. Vegas hasn’t posted a line yet but it should be a pick em game. Line won’t go above +7.
That’s OK, he’ll break several Cal records against porous Beav defense.
…on his way to PAC-12 Player of the Week
http://www.vulcan.com/News/Articles/2018/Statement-on-Paul-G-Allen
RIP
Have we stolen any players from the corn people this week? This Monday has been boring.
Just off the wire from Lincoln: Husker nation is talking about how much Frost’s buyout will be.
Bummer, Beavs lose their football graphic designer to another job just as we’re getting close to early signimg period.
Hope they pay up for a quality replacement.
But we have Barnes, the 2nd highest paid AD in the Pac, so we can’t afford it
Bummer, Beavs lose their football graphic designer to another job just as we’re getting close to early signing period.
Hope they pay up for a quality replacement.
But we have Barnes, the 2nd highest paid AD in the Pac, so we can’t afford it
Who left?
If so, what’s next.
Put a Beaver on it.
On third base?
Aaron Rodgers is amazing.
MNF announcing crew…….not so much.
Sounds like Blount injury more serious than thought.
Seriously, don’t even try to play colleto. Have Pierce take the snaps. Wing t for the win!
Everybody watching thought it was serious. It was just coach Smith who said it wasn’t much.
Most people here were already counting him out for the Cal game I thought?
What’s up with Luton and the ankle?
I’d actually like to see Colletto get the start and get some meaningful experience. It’s all about building for next year at this point. Playing Luton is wasted opportunity
To my untrained eye, I thought Colletto looked solid. They appear to have changed his motion so he’s no longer shot putting the ball. Threw a nice deep ball at the end of the game.
Why not give him a shot to see what he can do? Might have to scale back the passing playbook a little but he can run more so there are options there.
“They appear to have changed his motion so he’s no longer shot putting the ball.” That’s interesting if true…it’s more evidence of this staff’s ability to correct/improve QB play in a reasonable timeframe.
Blount said he was 100% yesterday and is practicing
What does he know? : )
Glad to hear he’ll be back…Beavs have a chance for a victory…
Maybe Bill meant seriously not very serious?
When I saw this article was hoping for some Jefferson recognition here, 2nd team or a mention:
https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/10/15/midseason-all-america-team-roster-tua-tagovailoa
Didn’t happen, even with 1 less game rushing I think he’s right in the top 3 in the country in yds/tds.
ESPN has Jefferson on the first team freshman for mid year.
24/7 Sports has him on their Midseason True Freshman All-American Team:
https://247sports.com/college/texas/Article/Best-freshmen-in-college-football-123437975/
Its the Derek Anderson show in Buffalo. He’s starting Sunday.
Congratulations?
Local Buffalo media on his starting and overwhelming fan support or relief (poll results):
https://buffalonews.com/2018/10/17/buffalo-bills-indianapolis-colts-derek-anderson/
His competition on the roster is (mostly) in a league of his own when it comes to INTs:
https://buffalonews.com/2018/10/17/bills-nathan-peterman-still-just-one-snap-from-playing/
Not making fun of Anderson. I hope he has success and isn’t risking health for a bad team situation. Not sure what kind of O-line or skill player support he’ll have there?
I won’t link the website that shall remain nameless’s latest article that had a Q & A session with the CAL beat writer. It was informative and basically, if our defense can stop a running QB, pressure the QB, and can mimmick what UCLA did last week in the turnover category, then this might be our breakout game for defense to come alive. I’m not hopeful nor optimistic, but if the defense were to finally get a pass rush and start causing turnovers, this would be the best opponent to get that done against.
On another note, I would expect Jermar Jefferson to get about 150-200 yards rushing this game and AP to get about 60-120 yards rushing. I feel Oregon State has a better rushing game than UCLA does at this point, and their RB got 114 yards in the first half against CAL, 154 total rushing for the game. UCLA ran the ball 55 times, i suspect that Jermar will get about 1/3 to half that amount of carries. AP will need to carry about 15-25 times to get his 60-100 yards. Passing game should get about 250-300 yards, but look more for the short to intermediate passes more than the deep balls being thrown. My prediciton for the game midweek – Beavs 45 – CAL 24
48-31 Cal. We were optimistic about the Arizona game and the offense got shut down. I think it’ll be a blowout by the beginning of the third quarter, and OSU will score half their points in garbage time.
I think Timber has it right. This feels like a Lucy Van Pelt scenario. Cal may be bad, but we are awful. And don’t forget – they surely know that this is their best chance for another W this year. They won’t pull punches.
Beavs win the turn-over battle, Beavs win a close one.
Beavs 40 – Cubs 37
Who down voted a Beaver win?
A realist?
Being a part of the like-me generation is at odds with being a realist.
One thing’s for sure, Jack … no one is like you!
Who was asking to “like me”? I guess reading comprehension is not important to the old guard eh Jax? Did you leave your readers at the Good Ol’ IHOP again Gramps? Or are your eyes too misty from crying about Trump all night? No need for a three paragraph response either.
It’s not about me, junior.
A coward will do what a coward does.
The obvious exception is the person who “dis/likes” anything and then announces it is exempt from such scrutiny. They’re real.
And… that was hard.
Jax if you are going to sit here and just talk shit about everything you better step up your game.
Step up my game?
With what content are you suggesting I do that? I’m having to lower the game itself just to speak about you like-generation types.
Probably just a duck fan
My guess is that UCLA has Dbacks and safeties that can catch an INT when it hits them square in the hands. My prediction is that will be the difference yet again, at least four should-have-been interceptions that then go on to be scores by the opponent.
Bears by two touchdowns.
Well Drew Eubanks proved many of us including me wrong. He’s on the opening night roster for the Spurs.
Hasn’t played but maybe pop sees something in him. Might as well ride the pine and learn while getting paid
Maybe Pop has to put people on the roster that otherwise would have been relegated to D because he’s got so many injuries.
There’s no question Drew has an NBA body, athleticism and upside. It’s just going to take a couple years of coaching to get the bad habits out and work on that upside.
Oh… and Drew should keep his girl away from that pointy guard guy.
Eggers picks the Beavs 38-31, citing the bye and two weeks of prep as an advantage even though Cal is better defensively:
https://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/409093-308356-kerry-says-beavers-find-a-team-they-can-beat-in-cal
I think HC Smith can and will take advantage of the bye week in terms of offensive game planning for a Cal D that’s played pretty good pass D, but less confident the OSU D coordinator can too.
With extra prep time and rest for dinged up players, “The Return” of Benny Beaver, homefield with what should be a decent crowd with a 1 pm start and good weather (sunny day, predicted to be 74), I like Jefferson and Pierce plus Blount on the field together, able to move the chains, use the clock and score…
Beavs in a close one…but not a Beaver FG, Cal just rallying too late and running out of time.
Keys to the game
Run early and often. Grind down cal in the first half. Need to get a big lead and hang on.
Knock out cal early and they won’t put up much of a fight in the second half.
If Luton is able to play, and Blount is ineffective early, put in Luton for a series or two. Js shouldn’t hesitate to try to kick start the offense.
Luton sucks
I thought Luton sucks too but In the Nevada game Blount sucked more. When Luton is healthy he might be able to move the ball. Hurts not to have our best receiver healthy though.
Blount has always sucked more.
I’ll wait on tape which says otherwise, but the numbers aren’t lying.
What numbers Jax? Compare the stats
You’re right.
There is no sucking “more” in the numbers. They’re essentially equal with Blount better at rushing and Luton better at ball security.
Sounds like exactly what Cal needs to do to the Beavs!!
This is the worst offense we’ve played since Southern Utah, but I haven’t seen any signs that the defense is getting “closer.”
Cal 35-21 Beavs
…and those Beauner guys invade the site for a week, just for old times’ sake.
Maybe Beauner would have had a stiffer defense?. And it would need to last just under 4 hours. Perfect!
Beauner can kiss my lily-white ass… or sunset reddish ass, if that happens. His Friday night massacre on the eve of the CW last year was so deflating… and fucking unprofessional.
https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/1052984710836576256
JC with some decent work on this Pac-12 thing. Pac-12 integrity is in big trouble.
JC sucked you back in to his slimy trap
Yeah I looked through some of that this morning. Sounds like Larry Scott got kinda pissy about it when JC wanted to read the official conference replay policy. He was also told that the rest of the game reviews would not be made public.
Julius Caesar died 2000 years ago.
Yet his name lives on via Romaine lettuce.
Sounds a little cheesy to me.
Still feeling pretty good about my prediction that OSU will host Jason Rodriguez this weekend. Everybody is being pretty tight lipped about it, but lets just say I’m about 95% certain it happens this weekend. His previous 2 visits werent made public until the Friday before his trips to Colorado and UCLA and Greg Biggens seems to be the gate keeper of that information.
Anyway, wouldnt be surprised if Biggens announced it tomorrow.
It’s pretty obvious Mike Singer at Sedge read this prediction and decided he needed to pull the trigger on announcing the story. He posted a story confirming Rodriguez is coming. Hopefully Mike didn’t f this up for OSU by announcing it too early.
First!!
S-I on year one for Chip Kelly and Scott Frost, and suggests both have recruiting struggles:
https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/10/18/chip-kelly-ucla-scott-frost-nebraska-season-starts
“Frost’s main challenge at Nebraska is recruiting. First, high schoolers today are too young to remember Nebraska’s glory years when Frost was running the offense. ”
“But the early returns on Kelly’s recruiting efforts are poor. Really, really poor. UCLA currently ranks 85th in 247Sports’ class of 2019 team rankings, with just three Power 5 schools ranking lower – Utah, Kansas State, and Kansas.”
Of course recruiting rankings matter very little this time of year, but S-I suggests Frost may keep his job longer than Kelly keeps his….
Kelly’s a mad scientist. If you care one whit about recruiting rankings with him as your coach, you’re a moron. He’s all about speed, conditioning and endurance. He just needs to flush the prima donnas who got them their high recruiting rankings in the last four years. They don’t want to toe the line? They can take their lazy asses elsewhere.
Frost is stuck with a bunch of jewels stuck to the bottom of rocks. He’s got a built-in excuse for a couple years.
S-I is not the arbiter of anything more than the 60th percentile of anything.
Yeah anyone that would choose Frost over CK needs to lay off the bath salts.
Let’s test this out. I’m also predicting Logan Snead, son of LA Rams GM Les Snead, will be visiting Oregon State this weekend as well.
Your move, Singer….
A little defensive info
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF3pVfcoAJk
Was just reading a couple of pre-season NCAA MBB polls. Nevada seems to be a consensus top 10 team, ranked as high as #4 in one poll I read.
Weren’t we considering hiring Musselman before we hired Tinkle? Or did he even interview?
I feel like his name surfaced back then.
By the way, looks like he’s done it with the help of some former Craig Robinson recruits, Cam Oliver(now trying to make an NBA team) and Hallice Cooke(who had a misdaignosed heart ailment while at OSU, and is now playing again)
I like his passion as a coach. The twins he got are studs. Those guys were dynamic and clutch in the tourney last year. I’m hoping Tres and Stevie T. can be those guys this year. Two huge contributors when there are 5 guys on the floor can get a team going.
You are right about the Beavs considering Messuleman per Eggers article
https://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/220293-81096-former-nba-coaches-could-join-osu-search-mix
Musselman was the candidate I wanted OSU to hire and I was adamant about it here. But they don’t pay me to fuck up those decisions.
Musselman was clearly a rising star. And then he was clearly the rising star we missed on because we thought we were hiring Greg McDermott instead.
I was so excited to see Oliver playing with Payton and the juniors. And we probably would have had a couple PGs incoming in Watson, Blackwell and an increased shot at Ford. I would have easily taken another year of CR just to see it.
Musselman would have increased the coaching and recruiting upsides to levels we haven’t seen in a long time. And his system is current with the state of the game. I’m getting tired of boiling down the basics then altering them in some way in order to implement some variation of what used to work.
Great Read:
The Secret Betrayal That Sealed Nike’s Special Influence Over the University of Oregon
https://psmag.com/education/the-secret-betrayal-that-sealed-nikes-special-influence-over-the-university-of-oregon
Shit, should have read above….!
New book coming out Oct 23rd.
https://psmag.com/education/the-secret-betrayal-that-sealed-nikes-special-influence-over-the-university-of-oregon
I always thought it was Oregon using Knight… appears it was more Knight using Oregon.
in case anyone was wondering, this is what journalism looks like.
The gun to the head line really got me. And everybody aware of Knight’s financial control over the Frohnmayer family were too scared to talk about it, so Knight just kept doing what he does.
Dancing with the devil
The UOMatters site has a link to an interview with the author. Sounds like this book will dig pretty deep into the public records and make some pretty strong accusations. Nothing will happen at UofO, and Hunt will likely be disappeared like the Turkish reporter in Saudi Arabia.
https://eugeneweekly.com/2018/10/18/parsing-the-uo-puppet-show/
That was a Saudi reporter who was an expat because he told the truth, not the ball-fondling lick-fest that Bitch Boy exhibits even now. He disappeared in the Saudi embassy in Turkey… apparently in pieces… a very Saudi way to go.
Can the rest of the article be believed when this line shows up in the opening paragraphs?
an increasing number of Oregon high school graduates who could no longer afford tuition at their state’s flagship university
This is like ASU calling a trident a fork. Do they not know that flagship is only designated to land grant universities who head a system? And do they also not know that a state can have more than one flagship university due to multiple systems?
Nikegon is not a leader of any research based system in Oregon. It’s not the oldest school. It’s not the largest school. Other than having to beg the state for money because they have no real mandate, they really don’t even belong in any system in the state… other than their system of one.
They’re just not a flagship of any system, and trying to make it so by continuously repeating the lie without merit makes them look silly and stupid.
It is odd that Oregon’s land grant system is only now becoming a system.
Measure 5… the gift that keeps on taking.
Off topic to force a new thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QLCoUi9XAQ
Stand up, hook up, shuffle to the door, jump right out and count to four…
nice
1 min
30 sec
outboard personal stand up
inboard personal stand up
hook up
check equipment
check static lines
sound off for equipment
ok ok ok
all ok jump master
ready
go go go
one thousand
two thousand
three thousand
four thousand
check campy
check raisers
slip away
“But if that chute don’t open wide, who’s gonna tell your brand new bride?”
Let’s erase your sense of individuality and teach you how to kill by dehumanizing others, funded by taxpayers.
Let’s flap our lips about shit we know nothing about.
I haven’t seen this posted yet, but I think it’s a good read.
https://247sports.com/college/oregon-state/LongFormArticle/Oregon-State-Football-recruiting-what-went-wrong-how-improve-123479582/#123479582_5
Not really.
It’s a contrived excuse-making pile of crap that throws our current payers under the bus.
Other than that, it’s interesting.
I’m trying to map the ostensible train of thought in this piece, and it just doesn’t follow. It’s really messy.
Bottom line: We had increasingly poor recruiting with mediocre coaching followed by slightly better recruiting with really poor coaching followed by a mix of good and poor coaching with recruiting that is yet to be determined.
As bad as the D was last year, it’s that much worse this year. We can try to slough it off by pretending that Crawford, Morris and Hungalu were all-world. Or we can look at the coach who is instructing the current personnel.
There are several defenses out there with lesser personnel than what we have. They simply play better football than we do. So it is not the talent gap garbage that everyone wants to decry. Veteran leadership would help. But either the system is so flawed that it puts that D on the field, or the players just haven’t bought in yet. Both of those are coaching, not talent, issues. The O side has bought in, and they’re able to make the talent shine because of it. The dull tint on the D talent doesn’t mean it’s not there. It means they’re not playing as a cohesive unit.
I believe Bikey would use the time between his inability to have the team playing as a team and when they finally bought in as, “finding their identity.”
PHIL STEELE REPORT (#85 California @ #98 Oregon State, 10/6/2018)
The home team in this series has won 3 straight by 16 ppg. Last year the Beavers went into Berkeley and fell 37-23 (+7.5) as Bears’ RB Patrick Laird rushed for a career best 214 yds (Cal 38-14 FD & 475-299 yd edges). Last time here Cal trailed 10-0 1Q, 17-3 2Q, 27-10 3Q & 41-24 w/10:35 left. Cal scored the last 17 pts in regulation inculding a 55 yd/11 play drive tying 29 yd FG with :05. In OT Cal settled for a 39 yd FG while 3 plays later Oregon St got a game winning 16 yd TD run and got the home upset 47-44 (+13.5). Oregon St is just 4-18 SU the last 5 years at home vs the Pac-12 but is fresh off a bye. Oregon St has dropped 6 consecutive Pac-12 home games by 16 ppg but Cal has dropped 14 straight conference away games overall including just a 3-11 ATS mark in that span. Cal has struggled at the all-important QB position and McIlwain is the big play guy but he makes as many big plays for the opponent as he does for his team. Cal is 0-3 in Pac-12 play despite being +38 yards and they lose by 18 ppg because they are -11 in TO’s. Oregon St is not a good team as their D allows 106 ypg above their season average and 6.7 ypc rushing and 63% completions. They are scrappy as they only trailed Arizona State by 14 in the 1Q, led Washington State 30-28 in the 3Q and put up 31 points on Ohio State. I like the home dog off a bye here.
CALIFORNIA 31 OREGON STATE 30
Position by Position Edges:
WHEN CALIFORNIA HAS THE BALL:
California QB/WR’s vs Oregon State DB’s: CAL +1.13
California RB’s vs Oregon State LB’s: CAL +0.82
California OL vs Oregon State DL: CAL +1.36
WHEN OREGON STATE HAS THE BALL:
California DB’s vs Oregon State QB/WR’s: ORST +0.27
California LB’s vs Oregon State RB’s: ORST +1.20
California DL vs Oregon State OL: CAL +1.15
MISCELLANEOUS:
Special Teams: CAL +3.51
Kicking Game: CAL +0.46
Coaching Staff: CAL +1.00
POSITIONAL EDGE: CAL +7.96
Projected Final Statistics (CAL – ORST)
Rushing Yards: 243 – 202
Passing Yards: 219 – 184
Yardage Total: 462 – 386
Total Points: 34 – 29
Experience Rankings: 14 – 73
Team Schedule Strength: 60 – 26
COMPUTER TOTALS:
Las Vegas Line: California by 7
Las Vegas Total: 58.5 Points
+/- Ratings: California by 15.3
Game Grade: California by 6.8
Computer Yards: California 462-386
Computer Points: California 34-29
Calculated Margin of Victory: California by 8.5
Parker reported KC still might sign Luke
It’s not going to happen. If Luke wants into pro ball, it won’t be with an mlb team first. He’s going to have to go some real shitty league overseas to get a chance. Then he might have a shot but still very doubtful.
So we have two byes in row? Luck o da Beavs.
Gameday in Pullman. Holy crap. They have what appears to be the whole town there. Good for the Cougs.