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I’ve been working my way through the coach interviews the past week. Some notable tidbits after watching all the Fall camp videos.

1. Smith says Aidan Willard not in camp. I think I had him rated a 1 star and wasted scholie. Good to hear. Addition by attrition. (I’m now told he’s back…luck o’ da Beavs)

2. Michalczik claims the offensive line is much better. I’ll believe it when I see it, but it makes sense given another year, etc.

3. Running back and WR are both the obvious strengths. Two sleepers to watch are Calvin Tyler and Jesiah Irish. They’re lower on the depth chart but both are intriguing.

4. Tibesar says they’re doing drills to force turnovers, get more pressure on the QB, and stop the run. This is Captain Obvious stuff, but still it’s good to hear they know what to work on. Sounds like they’re not getting pressure or turnovers, though, based on Smith’s comments after the scrimmage (complained of lack of pressure/turnovers). This is the same old story, and if this hasn’t improved we won’t improve much.

5. August 13th Lindgren says the offensive line is not physical. Also says in the same video messing up the small details. Mentions poor technique and execution stalling drives. This also sounds like typical Beavs.

6. August 9th Blue Adams calls the secondary a “work in progress”. That doesn’t sound good.

7. Trent Bray says LBs bigger and stronger.

For those of you who made it to scrimmage, how did the team look? Strengths: WRs and RB. Weakness: CB, pass rush, turnovers?

Sound about right?

145 COMMENTS

  1. I don’t know if they should be working on stripping the ball, they need to focus on tackling and making stops. This crew failed defense 101 last year, let’s not bump them up to 201.

    • “This crew failed…”
      Agree, except there are enough new players that (along with the experience gained by returnees) the 2019 crew should look much better than previous; I’ll go with the notion that correct stripping technique includes an initial wrap up.

      EDIT/ADD: Eggers tweets, “Senior LB Shemar Smith on the @BeaverFootball defense: “We’re 10 times better than last year.
      We’re getting a push up front with the D-linemen. We have new pieces to the puzzle. We have angrier guys, hungrier guys ready to make plays in the backfield.”

  2. Just to be clear, the scrimmage on Aug 10 was not open to the public. Of course, today’s was open and promoted.

    As far as where the team stands, here is why i’m optimistic about the O:
    -Smith, after the 8/10 scrimmage, passes “are being completed, they are going to the right spot, they are on time.”
    -BIG JIM has said, both on Eggers podcast and the radio preview show, that the O-line is vastly improved.
    (nugget: he says Levengood may play C if Eldridge cannot go)
    -And, the RB/WR corps is proven.

    • Ron Callan has tweeted vid clips of a few players after the scrimmage. And how about this from Jordan Whittley; this guy is likely to provide a lot of bulletin board material, we’ll see if he can back it up:

      “It’s what people can expect. A lot of tackles for loss, lot of sacks, a lot of big plays when we need it and when it counts,” Whittley said. “If it’s third and goal, fourth and goal, the fourth quarter, you can look for me to make a play.”

      https://twitter.com/roncallan

  3. Someone put an EA sports video game simulation of the Beavers/Cowboys game on YouTube. I watched a little for shits and giggles. Cowboys won something like 38-31 with a late TD (I mostly watched the 4th). Luton went crazy stats-wise but couldn’t orchestrate the game tieing drive. Beaver win would be nice, but at least a competitive game would be good to see on national tv.

  4. Enjoyable scrimmage last night. Liked the look of our uniforms, especially the away white jerseys. All of the running backs looked good and played hard. Aydon and Whitley are sure big, but seemed in decent shape, and impressive. Gebbia’s touchdown scramble was awesome! Hodgins is the real deal, and Lindsey, Flemmings and Irish are really fast. Yes, the defense was impressive and really loud and supportive on the sidelines.

  5. Eggers up with his assessment of the open scrimmage, a few new insights:

    The 6-3 Colletto is listed at 224 pounds, “but he’s closer to 235,” Bray said. “He’s athletic and he’s physical (at linebacker). He hits people. He’s going to help us.”

    The secondary could be a trouble spot, especially if safeties Jalen Moore and/or David Morris are slowed by injuries…”We have to get that guy going,” new secondary coach Blue Adams said of the sophomore from Sherwood.
    “We’re making some strides,” Adams said … “The kids are competing. That’s one of the things that continues to show up. They want to get better. They want to be coached. I coach them hard and expect a lot out of them. It’s never good enough, but they continue to come back and ask for more.”

    Receiver Trevon Bradford, who had off-season foot surgery, did not participate in the scrimmage and hasn’t done much yet in camp. I asked him if he expected to be ready for the opener. “I do,” he said. “(Sitting out) has been just playing it safe. I have one more doctor’s appointment (on Thursday), and I’ll find out for sure.”

    So far, I like Blue; gotta see it on the field though.

    https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/12-sports/436108-345102-beavers-start-to-believe-in-their-rebuilt-defense

  6. Jordan Whittley isn’t the only one providing bulletin board material. This from the GT story on Hicks-Onu coming back from missing last season due to injury:
    When asked about the emotions he might feel as he takes the field against the Cowboys, Hicks-Onu said he’s only focused on one thing.

    “I’m going to be thinking about tearing them boys up to be honest,” he said with a smile. “All that last year stuff is in the past, now I’m looking forward. I can’t let the past define me. It’s all about the future and what I’m going to do.”

    How do y’all feel about the remarks here and those above by Whittley?

    A) Pretty mild
    B) too soon to say
    C) Foolish
    D) About time
    E) Boys will be boys
    F) You can get away with a lot if you SMILE

    EDIT/ADD: Here’s Eggers take on Whittley (from twitter):
    “He’s plenty big and has a quick burst for his weight, which is still too much for his body. Not sure he’ll be an every-down DL but if he can stay healthy, he’ll help. Best-case scenario, he’ll be a difference-maker.”

    I’ll also add something Whittley said in the clip tweeted by Ron Callan above. Whittley seems to think some situations “matter” and others don’t; he speaks of what he’ll do 3d and 4th down at the goal line, etc. He adds, “If it don’t count, it don’t matter it’s really just nothing to me…”

    • About time damit! I want some attitude on D and can handle a few roughing penalties during the course of season. Would rather have too aggressive than not aggressive enough.

    • Honestly tired of recycled cliches in sports. They’re not saying anything derogatory about their opponent, just talking up their game or trying to show “swag” as they put it these days.

      It’s all good until you get crushed. I say let it fly as long as they don’t act like jackasses on or off the field

      • Also, I feel bulletin board material is a myth. If you need someone to talk trash to get you to play well you suck and won’t last long. You should be ready to kick ass every game: no matter the opponent.

      • Like Ed Ray’s delusion that this is “our house” and we were somehow going to defend it with 2-star recruits who had SJSU offers.

  7. Enough is enough! So why does Oregon ducks get to recruit and pay kids/schools to reclassify and commit? Why are the ducks the only team still adding players this late? Sorry bud, gotta wait till next year like everyone else! It’s an obvious advantage bias they receive but NCAA won’t do anything because of the Nike money and branding. Still no school should be above the law so blatantly, why do they get special treatment? Time to take a stand!

  8. Questions for anybody who happened to catch the scrimmage:

    What was the format of the scrimmage? Was it the #1 offense vs #2 defense and vice versa, like they’ve done in the past? Or did they actually have the #1 Off matchup against the #1?

    Who made up the starting OL and DL?
    With Jeromy Reichner out, and reports that Sandberg and Rawls are nursing injuries, I’m pretty worried about our DEs.
    On OL, we have similar depth issues, especially if a guy like Lavaka has an ankle injury that lingers into the season.

    DBs are the other main area of concern it sounds like. Did Wright look the part? Anybody else?

    What’s up with the playing status of safeties Jalen Moore and David Morris?
    Keep reading coaches making comments about needing those guys to be healthy for the season, but what are the current issues?

    • From Olive practice report:

      “It’s not as if the defense owned the show. The offense had its moments, particularly at the outset. The No. 1 offense torched the No. 1 defense on the opening drive, going 99 yards on seven plays, capped with a 9-yard touchdown run by Jefferson.

      The highlight was a 56-yard strike by Luton to Isaiah Hodgins.”

      The rest appears to be 1s vs 2s.

      • Oh no!!! We suck again! Until the defense out shines the offense, this team will not be cohesive. I highly doubt the offense is that good at preventing turnovers. Maybe that’s changed, but I see at least on average, 1-2 INT by Luton and or Gebbia this season and about 0.5 fumbles given up each game. prove me wrong Beavs, prove me wrong.

    • To me it looked like half the time the ones were against the ones with twos against twos but their often was times they were mixed.
      OL left to right- Brandel-Lavaka-Keobounnam-Cordasco-Kipper
      Gray-Clarke-Eldridge-Levengood-Bush
      DL-Hodgins-Aydon Whitley
      Williams-Bennett-Rawls
      Wright physically looked the part and was mostly running with the twos and threes, got a few reps with the ones
      The defensive backfield most consistently looked like this, with a lot of rotating
      1s- Dunn Hicks Manning (Hayes or Austin)
      2s-(Hayes or Austin) Morris Arnold Wilson
      Morris was full go, ran with the ones and twos while Moore was held out but didn’t appear to be hurt
      Was impressed with how much more imposing the Defense looked, specifically the John McCarten and Addison Gumbs
      Luton appeared to be more consistent but Gebbia had some really nice throws
      Hodgins didn’t play much but when he did he looked really good, he absolutely burned Alex Austin on a chair route

      • Thanks for the info GoBeavs!

        Lineback seems like an especially deep position talent wise. Especially if Colletto is contributing. I almost forgot about Gumbs. He should be a difference maker, but now I wonder if they move into one of the voids at DE? Guy should be starting for Oklahoma this year, so he’s is a pretty big upgrade in talent. If Bray cant make the LB groups look good this year, he needs to be on the hot seat. He has all of the talent he could wish for.

        Corner and OL are still huge question marks. How come we cant get good CB talent anymore? Seems like we used to send at least 1 guy to the NFL every year.

    • I’m going to start calling him Fredo Yeskie. Theres a reason he was passed up for the coaching job after Casey had input in the process.

      • Strange a catcher would rather follow yeskie than play for a former catcher.

        Seems like OSU made yeskie not convinced it’s the other way around.

        But good luck to the kid, may he fail miserably in the desert.

  9. Ryan Allen cut by the Pats. Not sure if he gets picked up right away or not. Not exactly a big time distance guy but pretty accurate.

      • The speculation I was reading is that because of Allen’s years of service his cap hit was getting up there a bit so it is a bit of a money saving movie with the punter they drafted. But I imagine the NE offense won’t be as potent next year so maybe having a bigger leg will be somewhat needed.

    • Maybe he sees the same logjam at LB and didnt see himself playing much?
      Opens up a roster spot for them to pick up a DE off the scrap heap before the season starts, at least

      • Avery Roberts and Colletto taking reps away. The guy started 9 games though last year. Makes me wonder if he didn’t put the work in during the off season.

        • The roster needs more balance. Way too many sophomores currently. If they can somehow find a grad transfer senior to plug and play at DE, it would help a ton and also help open up some scholarship spots for the 2020 class.

          Big “if” though

    • And a day later, Tufaga is announcing he will join Hawaii.
      I’m sure there was no amount of tampering involved and all communication between Hawaii and Tufaga occurred only in the last less than 24 hours, after Tufaga appeared in the portal. Nothing suspicious here…

    • It’s fine. He was recruited as a safety(?) and seems a bit smaller than ideal as a lb considering the guys who have come in. I wonder if the coaches offered to move him back to safety given the question marks there. I thought he’d end up at USU.

      • Wilner seems to think the Cowboys will be overlooking the Beavs. Then he looks at Stanford’s schedule prior to the game with the Beavs and feels they’ll be kinda worn out whereas the Beavs will be coming off of a bye.

  10. OOB: you were concerned our guys were getting a little too overconfident. I’m not going to link the article because I came across it on Facebook and it’s in the Athletic which is a subscription based publication, but the prominent Duck DB quotes are:

    “We’re slept on like crazy. We’re have the best secondary in the nation”
    “If you were going to compare us to any other team, it would have to be the Seattle Seahawks Leigon of Boom”

    • Thanks for passing that along; I’ve considered paying for the Athletic but have not done so.

      I’m torn between liking the “chip on the shoulder” mentality and hoping the guys aren’t overconfident. The new attitude seems to come from a mix of returning players and new guys, I think that’s good. From what I’ve seen, there is a lot of desire to put last years pitiful D to rest; hope each player stays within the system and doesn’t try to do it all themselves.

      Whittley, in particular, is either a blow-hard or a budding team leader. One thing for sure, he will be quoted a lot as the season goes on, scribes love that he can be counted upon for a provocative remark or two.

      • I subscribed to the Athletic only because Gina Miizell and Austin Meek are writers there. I liked the idea of supporting ex-Oregonian reporters. I mostly forget to check it though.

        • I subscribe, the low cost and best beat writers in their respective markets makes it worthwhile, IF you follow teams other than the Beavs. In Oregon college news they only cover the team(s) in Eugene with any regularity so I can understand passing on a sub if you’re looking for Beavo news.

    • Pretty confident for a team that barely went 8-5 last year… They better hope Herbert stays upright, and Cristobal learned to coach.

  11. MBB: Eggers tweets about changes to Tinkle’s staff. Gottlieb moves from asst coach to director of player personnel/assistant to head coach. Marlon Stewart, 34, OSU direct of basketball operations last year, takes over Gottlieb’s coaching spot. Stewart has worked for Mike Montgomery and is described by Tinks as, “A bright, up-and-coming coach who is a tireless worker and will be a good recruiter.”

    Eggers also notes that Shengzhe Li, 7 footer from China has not been cleared due to a medical condition, believed to be a heart abnormality. Sound familiar?

  12. So with Tufaga leaving and Green-Richards leaving the team due to medical issues, we have 2 extra scholarship spots opened to replace players who wouldnt have contributed much this year. Haven’t heard any updates on Whetzel or Willard, but thats potentially 2 more.

    And if you think back to last year, we made our biggest talent acquisitions via transfers during the period between fall camp ending and our fall term registration closing in mid October(Roberts/Gebbia/Lindsey/Gumbs)
    I have to think coach Smith is welcoming these scholarship openings and will go back to the transfer well.
    Our quarter system is a competitive advantage because players dont have to sit as long as they would transferring to semester system school. Might as well milk it while we can.

    • Good points. There will be some players realizing they aren’t on the depth chart where they thought they would be and looking for an opportunity to play. Too bad about Green-Richards since CB was non existent last year.

  13. KENDALL ROGERS tweets: “Hearing @OregonBaseball will invest $2.5 million into some facilities changes, including:
    * New, faster turf
    * Moving the fences in at PK Park 20 feet from RCF to the LF line
    * New video board

    It’s a new era in Eugene.”

    Anyone scared? Y’all gotta know that old “slow turf” was a big part of the problem for the phiting phils.

    • Luton was named one of the four team captains tonight. Seems likely he is going to be named starter too then, i would think. Otherwise that might be awkward

        • Ya I’m still not sure how long Luton can stay healthy, the guy has been injured so much in his career. That being said, I do hear he’s in better shape and a little quicker this year with his foot work, which will help avoid getting drilled. Gebbia is the future, so it would be nice for him to start getting reps. Got to go with the hot hand.

  14. I came across a weekly college pick-em contest on CBS sports and decided to set up a Beavrecruiting pool.
    Figured since Jack used to do something like this but is no longer around, I’ll try doing something similar. It looks like the rules will allow me to pick a different set of games each week, so my hope is to make it Pac 12 specific, with 1 or 2 national match-ups included. The system doesn’t have week 1 games available to choose yet, so I’ll have to wait a bit to see how that all works.

    No money involved, just for fun.

    Follow the link below to register.

    Pool name = Beavrecruiting
    Password = fall2019

    https://picks.cbssports.com/college-football/pickem/pools/kbxw63b2giytomrx?invited-by=ivxhi4tzhiytgmbyhezq====&via-medium=copy

    • If you have signed up, check the “hide email” option in your player profile if you dont want others in the pool to see that info

  15. has anyone got the pac 12 though sling or any other services other than dish? i just got back surgery and wont be able to go anywhere to watch and don’t have the option for dish. any suggestions are greatly appreciated. i would really like to watch the games while im laid up at home.

    • I’ve got sling, my TV isn’t smart so I had to get a Roku stick. For the most part they’re good but occasionally there are issues, I ran into most of my trouble during baseball season. Overall if I had to do it again I would

      • I should have added that I pay extra to basically get all the channels I had with cable (orange &blue+ sports) and my bill is half of what I paid for regular cable. The only real issue I have is occasionally (like once or twice a day)it will kick me off. I called and asked why it was happening. Turns out my internet provider (spectrum) isn’t the greatest and during peak times I don’t have enough bandwidth available. I always just open it back up and it usually is good to go…

        • Yeah periodically I would have to power cycle my Kindle fire box to get everything to reset. Haven’t had that problem with the smart TV.

          • i will probably use my firestick if its available on there bc my tv seems to buffer more when i use it for prime video. not sure why but the tv seems to go slower.

          • I’m curious, if the internet is spotty where you are, how does the firestick improve performance over a regular PC?

            Seems if the internet signal is good enough for the firestick, you would have more and better option just using your PC connected to a tv via HDMI, like whiskey mentioned.

            Also, on the topic of firesticks, does anybody use one that has Kodi installed? Just curious if that even works anymore. I had it several years ago and it gave you access to several bootleg streams, but i found it cumbersome trying to keep up with the current kodi channels because the good ones always got shut down or moved around.

          • I had Kodi installed on my fire box also. Same as you, it got too spotty and was too much of a hassle to deal with. My brother in law tells me there’s a new platform, I’ll ask him what it is.

    • How long are you laid up? Asking as you could do this all for free.

      Okstate – on Fox so sign up for a free 7 day trial of YouTube TV
      Hawaii – on Facebook
      Cal Poly – sign up for free trial of sling
      Bye week
      Stanford – ok to move about by then?

      • Reddit also almost always has quality free bootleg streaming links. I used it last year for NBA games and it worked great. HD quality on phone or computer for free. I’d imaging the NCAA football community is pretty similar, although I haven’t used it yet.

    • I’ve used sling for the last couple of seasons and it’s been good. First on a Kindle fire box and now on a smart TV. I’ve been generally happy with it. I also pay the extra couple of bucks for the bigger sports package. Cancel the whole thing after the season.

  16. HDMI cable connecting your computer to your TV. Reddit CFB streams or any of the ones from our Ukrainian friends are free.

    Boom. Problem solved

      • The reddit streams are usually much less cluttered looking and usually only have a single popup, as opposed to those old “firstrowsports” streams that were just covered with deceptive popup ads

  17. thanks everyone. one issue is that i live off the grid so the internet can also be spotty. i should be able to get somewhere after about three weeks.

        • I used to have Verizon (at&t) now. They literally tried making me pay for my x mother in law’s past due account (wasn’t tied to me or my account in any way). They let me keep my service but froze the account (no discounted upgrade, no changing my plan or adding/subtracting lines and no more discount for working for one of their affiliates. Needless to say I cancelled my service with them

  18. “At Oklahoma State, we play fast, so of course we’re going to tempo and when you playing fast you also sub,” Brown said. “You can’t play fast with just one person, so we will touch the ball and we will spread the ball. It’s just something to look forward to.”

    “we’re going to tempo”…….but, can Aydon and Whittley?

    Note: Brown, quoted above, is the backup to Chuba Hubbard.

    https://www.tulsaworld.com/sports/college/osu/oklahoma-state-plays-fast-and-so-does-ld-brown/article_3751fe93-6456-5caf-b09e-d4a971de666e.html

  19. I suspect he’s only getting the nod bc he’s a senior and that gebbia didn’t clearly beat him out.

    I would think if Luton has a bad first half or game vs ok state, well see gebbia really quickly.

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