The FSU defense makes the Beavs look like a top 10 defense… Wish ol Willie would of stuck around at Oregon… Not that their current coach is anything to write home about but he’s for sure better than taggart
Lol… Again Angry, it’s a team sport and QB is not the most important position… Your obsessed with that position… He may not know how to manage games but he knows how to build a team… It’s all about lineman…Taggart isn’t a good game manager and he doesn’t know how to build a team on top of it… I think it’s pretty clear who’s superior
Angry, I don’t typically want to link an Oregonian article, but given your conversation with Canzano, here is the article about “Cristobal the CEO”. He really glosses over Cristobal’s past failures to make his flawed thesis.
Moore comes from the “psycho” mold that angry was talking about. Will be interesting to see his impact. They call him “Thumper” for a reason. His extra disruption with hard hitting tackles could help force some turnovers with the smaller Hawaii offensive players, if he can catch them
Ya I just feel like he isn’t very good in coverage that’s where I thought hicks onu might be better but that didn’t happen. I like more though he is a hard hitter but has he ever even had a pick in all the games he played? Hawaii isn’t his best matchup but we’re better with him that’s for sure.
Open Zen’s link with your phone. Click on the video. Top right will have a funky little square icon. Click on that. Pop up should come up to cast to your tv. Click yes.
This must be what it feels like to watch sports on the east coast. Anyone with the knowledge to record the game so we can watch a replay during normal hours?
No pressure so far. I watched Nevada get pressure on oregon with the supposed best o line. What is their problem? Is it scheme talent or both? I say both when I watch physically inferior teams able to pressure physically superior ones.
We have great drives with plenty of running to get the lead, and then we abandon that game plan and get pass happy and kill our own drive with dropped passes. If it ain’t broke, the Beavs will find a way to break it
The only reason I can think of as to why they rushed the timeout was to get different personnel on the field, but I agree it was a complete waste and gave them an extra down.
Bogus Offensive PI call.
Last couple minutes of the first half and first couple of the second so very important………Beavs not doing well, give HI momentum.
ADD: But, forcing the punt is a step in the right direction.
I really wanted to watch the offense this year and especially Jefferson but not sure if I can take watching this defense. To think I almost got sling just to have PAC-12 net-wortless.
If we lose this game it’s Smiths second worse coaching job after the Nevada game.
Any average coach would see you’re winning the line and keep running. Very elementary stuff.
Well, that’s it for me. I know how this story goes with the no-pride defence, and unless Gebbia gets a chance this will just get more stupid on offense.
I think it’s safe to say all of the defensive staff that Niner assembled was a swing and a miss.
I’m stunned that Hawaii can get guys open so easily with a run route. We have one wr that can get open. It doesn’t even feel like we can scheme a second wr open (and when we do they drop it).
Going with Crazy Legs would’ve been better than Luton. 3&10 was two down territory. Should’ve ran the ball twice. Well. Should’ve a lot of crazy nonsense
Agree. Lost all faith in him tonight. Several reasons:
1. Luton was not the best option to win the game. If the coach claims he wants to put the players in the best position to win, you can’t tell me that was Luton (at least not tonight, though I don’t think ever).
2. Kicking with Choker from 52.
3. Fake punt when that is so obvious, and you should either punt or go for it with an actual QB.
4. Abandoning the run mid game and falling in love with Luton for no reason.
5. There must be more. (Just thought of another: have Luton throw a hail mary instead of some trick play that never works. The guy’s strength is supposed to be his 60 yard bombs. Haven’t seen one ever).
The Beavers played like an inexperienced team coached by an inexperienced staff.
Seriously, the starting QB can’t throw a completion, wtf makes them think the punter can throw a completion????
Last week’s game made me glad I chose to go to Hawaii and spend time with friends instead of wasting my time watching the game.
This week’s game makes me glad I’m moving to China, and therefore won’t have neither the opportunity nor the temptation to follow this football program anymore.
Can we please start doing some SEC scheduling?
We don’t need compelling Big 12/ Big 10 matchup now.
We need New Mexico St, PSU and San Jose St. to start a season. Put up some wins, go to a bowl, then look at maybe inviting a Kansas St to do a home and home.
I would have pulled Luton early in the third quarter. With our ability to run, we just need a game manager to complete a few passes, not a gunslinger. That second half starting early in the third quarter with several missed passes in a row, drive killers. Luton doesn’t have the it factor. The look in his eyes is as one despairing of what to do, not of confidence. He has no touch on the short passes. I don’t take him as a winner. Would really like to see what Gebbia can do. BTW, what the hell was that fake punt? How can you set up your team for success with a call like that? Oh, you’ve got the same problem with your kicker as your quarterback. So disappointed in this team…So disappointed in myself for putting all this energy into fandome. Much better things I should be doing with my time..
From one coach to another, it’s all about utilizing your talent in the right places… Is there a place for pierce to be on the field at the same time as Jefferson, to swing the ball to him in short passes. I would bet Gebbia could make those passes, cause I’m not confident that Luton can throw a five yard pass easy for a back to catch, ie fourth and six and Hodge has to dive to his right for the ball pulling him away from the first down….
Well good luck. I think you will be a good coach some day. But right now, you are trying too hard, taking risks when you don’t have to.
I hope you’re right. Don’t see the D slowing them down unfortunately.
I did figure out how to open an internet browser on my tv. That with my wife’s Facebook account should allow me to watch the game.
Slick willie escapes on a missed xp. He’s such a disaster.
The FSU defense makes the Beavs look like a top 10 defense… Wish ol Willie would of stuck around at Oregon… Not that their current coach is anything to write home about but he’s for sure better than taggart
His career record is 36-53 as a head coach. And he’s had a “heisman” qb 2 of those years. No clue why you think he’s better.
That entire coaching tree is equally rotten.
Lol… Again Angry, it’s a team sport and QB is not the most important position… Your obsessed with that position… He may not know how to manage games but he knows how to build a team… It’s all about lineman…Taggart isn’t a good game manager and he doesn’t know how to build a team on top of it… I think it’s pretty clear who’s superior
QB is obviously the most important position. It’s not even close.
36-53 after 8 years of building programs. Yeah he is clearly superior. You seem to know nothing about football.
Your funny, show me a winning QB who had a terrible oline… Good luck… Just shows your narrow view of football
Just watch the BYU win for a prime example… Oline literally carried the RB to the endzone
Angry, I don’t typically want to link an Oregonian article, but given your conversation with Canzano, here is the article about “Cristobal the CEO”. He really glosses over Cristobal’s past failures to make his flawed thesis.
https://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/2019/09/canzano-what-the-oregon-ducks-need-most-of-all-is-mario-cristobal-to-grow-into-ceo-role.html
The spread keeps going up…
Sounds like Jalen Moore is going to play. That’s a positive development for the secondary
Moore comes from the “psycho” mold that angry was talking about. Will be interesting to see his impact. They call him “Thumper” for a reason. His extra disruption with hard hitting tackles could help force some turnovers with the smaller Hawaii offensive players, if he can catch them
Ya I just feel like he isn’t very good in coverage that’s where I thought hicks onu might be better but that didn’t happen. I like more though he is a hard hitter but has he ever even had a pick in all the games he played? Hawaii isn’t his best matchup but we’re better with him that’s for sure.
Was thinking more of the hard hits forcing fumbles for turnovers rather than INTs. I don’t think I’ve seen him pick a pass off either. Maybe once?
Not sure I’ve seen many forced fumbles from him either. Miss Chappelle. He was good at causing them.
52-48 beavs!
Anyone got a link to watch the game?
http://bit.ly/beavsvhawaii2019
Thanks Zen… Go Beavs!
Thanks Zen.
stream is up, in case anybody hasn’t started it yet
It’s free on fb just stream it there.
Might be a good opportunity to get some new readers angry. we should spam the comment thread with links to your site ;)
Streaming from my phone to my smart tv. So far so good.
How?
Open Zen’s link with your phone. Click on the video. Top right will have a funky little square icon. Click on that. Pop up should come up to cast to your tv. Click yes.
Omg the commentary
Yikes…these fb announcers
Are they Russians?
Ha!
My brother says he sounds like Hawaiian Eeyore.
It’s like a high school A/V club or public access tv for the local semi-pro team kind of production.
I didn’t see David Morris, is he injured again?
Not sure I can listen to announcers. I can’t believe defense didn’t give up points… I mean they gave up practically every pass so far.
This must be what it feels like to watch sports on the east coast. Anyone with the knowledge to record the game so we can watch a replay during normal hours?
I’m going to Facebook like that play.
Woooo what a hurdle
Crap. Eldridge. Nooooooo
That sucks. Looks like a knee again. Poor guy
Doc says ankle sprain, may even return to the game.
Beast mode!
Jefferson goes over the right side, as last week, Lindgren not going with his experienced left side.
“Tackled by the ki…ck..er”
…this guy has a real hard time saying kicker.
Beav defense giving those receivers like 5-10 free yards of cushion… Hawaii will take that all day.
Wright is terrible.
Last chance u material
Literally just watched him run by. Was he seriously trying to press?
Wright got toasted.
We’re running the Quizno’s defense
A 2 play drive by Hawaii and we’re tied at 7. Way to go D
Choker with a tackle! Put him on defense.
That’s the D we all know and love.
Is it illegal to block a receiver at the line in college? They just have a solo sprint down the field without ever being touched!
Beavs are going to have to burn clock in this game. Don’t see improvement on defense yet.
If that’s the kind of coverage #21 Wright is going to put on film, how in the world is he starting?
These guys sound like cartoon characters.
Zuckerberg testing out some new AI.
Morris not dressed tonight.
What’s the line on Jefferson vs Hawaii?
Edit: never mind the AI called Pierce Jefferson.
Good to see Pierce get that TD. What a great run.
We have over 100 yds rushing only 10 mins into the game
I can see it now. A Hannah Barbara style cartoon football game with two pugs running commentary on the game.
Beavs offense will need to score on every possession
That’s a good game plan
Ideally all we need to do is score more points than the other team.
Even better game plan.
At least wright can catch balls thrown right to him.
Oh no now Gumbs!
Yeah that’s bad. He looks pissed too. Hope it’s not his knee.
Looks like he’s pissed. Hopefully not a reinjury
A TURNOVER!
LIES!!!
Ran an ad during a play. Wtf
Zuck needs a new pair of loafers
lol…luton
Parker blames wind, blowing from sideline to sideline
Haha
wind causes batted ball ????????
Touch.
No sideline reporter? Injury updates?
RUN THE BALL
Another bat down
Luton another batted ball.
I guess a wind gust got it
You don’t get the ball batted when you run it.
Jefferson returns after having both ankles taped.
Great catch! Hope hodgins doesn’t leave after this season.
He gone
What if we have a decent season? Does he come back to play 1 more with his brother?
If aydon gets so winded why is he on the field goal team?
Mass
Luton with a good throw, and a better catch by Hodgins.
I hope it’s a blowout.
Blowout?
Have you seen our D, mon?
I haven’t seen our D yet. Did they make the trip?
Beavs dont know how to play with a lead. They’ll let up and allow Hawaii back into it quickly
Omg from no run defense to no pass defense
No pressure so far. I watched Nevada get pressure on oregon with the supposed best o line. What is their problem? Is it scheme talent or both? I say both when I watch physically inferior teams able to pressure physically superior ones.
Anyone having nightmares about WSU?
I like the crazy leg colletto packages.
One on these times he’s going to throw.
Togia has been and is unimpressive
Togiai wtf?
2 straight drops by Togiai come on man
Togia has been a disappointment.
I’m tired of hearing about Togiai and his big senior year. Play the younger guys and write him off.
Yes sir.
The freshman we just signed looks good.
Agreed, I think we need to focus on Teagan and Musgrave. Togiai can’t stay healthy, but when he is he’s a liability to play in the game.
Togiai = overhyped.
MUSGRAVE
We have great drives with plenty of running to get the lead, and then we abandon that game plan and get pass happy and kill our own drive with dropped passes. If it ain’t broke, the Beavs will find a way to break it
I agree to a certain extent but u can blame dropped passes on the oc.
Hawaii has more yards than us now
Hodgins reminds me a lot of keenan allen
I am not a huge Luton fan but he has greatly improved his play action fake this season.
They are trying to stop the run. Our last 6 or 8 runs have gone for like 6 total yards. It’s not so simple as just “run the ball!”
Then give it to pierce
Big pass play opened up the run!
How else are you guys watching the game besides FB? I’m not on FB and can’t find any other working stream online.
U shouldn’t need an account I’m told. Other options are to watch on a reddit stream or something like that unless u live in Hawaii then it’s on cable.
I hate our defense
You got get some pressure on the QB, that was a shitty goal line stand. I didn’t like the timeout usage either. It saved Hawaii a down.
The only reason I can think of as to why they rushed the timeout was to get different personnel on the field, but I agree it was a complete waste and gave them an extra down.
Sounds like Gumbs is injured too?
Anybody have any updates?
Radio says he’ll not return tonight, Parker recommends resting him next week then comes the bye.
But what’s wrong with him? He walked off fine, but appeared very pissed off…
Elu and Jordan Whittley combined for ZERO tackles in the first half.
Of course, Whittley says he’ll perform…….WHEN IT MATTERS…………….OK
He’s waiting to perform?
That’s a new one.
Translation “I’m not very good and don’t want to admit that “
Sounds like D1 is a little different from JC, Mr. Whitley. The D line is not getting much pressure on McDonald either.
The only drives Hawaii didn’t work down the field and score on was mistakes by their QB. No improvement from last week or last season.
Beavs need to keep running to win.
Offensive interference? Did i miss something or did they actually call that on Hodgins?
Weak call but there was a slight push.
You missed the talk HI HC had with the zebras at half time.
I’d like to go to bed.
This is going to be a rough half.
Don’t go to bed, you might miss Whittley deciding to play!
Lol
Bogus Offensive PI call.
Last couple minutes of the first half and first couple of the second so very important………Beavs not doing well, give HI momentum.
ADD: But, forcing the punt is a step in the right direction.
Is this still going on?
Pierce, pierce, Jefferson, jefferson
The Defense is so bad in this game on both sides. Whenever a team forces a punt it feels like someone broke serve in a Tennis match.
Pierce, pierce, Jefferson, jefferson
Then pass
Or sail one over the receivers head on 1st down
This play calling is terrible. They’re falling for the Luton lure instead of running it.
We get positive yardage on every run play. (Unless we hold…smh…)
We still should have run twice on 2nd and 15 rather than trust Luton.
Luton shouldn’t throw another pass this entire game
*except to avoid taking a sack
BIG JIM on the money when he says the only decent pass this half was the one on which the offensive PI was called.
Fkn Luton smh
Luton…ugh
Jefferson cuts look great but pierce is faster. Jefferson avoids contact when he can since limping off in 1st period.
Pierce with only 7 carries and averaging 11.3 per carry.
Jefferson with 21 carries and 7.4 average.
Both really good, but maybe balance it a little more towards the guy who is fresh and also not limping?
Get Luton the f…….k out of there. He’s totally stalled, no mobility whatsoever
This game could be over.
Way to victory was running and we decided to start passing with a dII QB
This game is over.
I think so unless Gebbia gets a shot.
I really wanted to watch the offense this year and especially Jefferson but not sure if I can take watching this defense. To think I almost got sling just to have PAC-12 net-wortless.
RUN THE LEFT B GAP!!!
Time to give Gebbia a chance.
Gotta give Gebbia a shot Luton has zero touch and has melted down.
Link.
Facebook
Fuck Tibesar.
Fuck Luton.
If we lose this game it’s Smiths second worse coaching job after the Nevada game.
Any average coach would see you’re winning the line and keep running. Very elementary stuff.
Well, that’s it for me. I know how this story goes with the no-pride defence, and unless Gebbia gets a chance this will just get more stupid on offense.
I think it’s safe to say all of the defensive staff that Niner assembled was a swing and a miss.
Move Luton to P
Maybe he can replace choker
That was actually offensive PI but not called. We really need a running threat at QB to have a chance in this game.
Gebbia is deceptively quick.
Luton is a better punter than passer.
Underrated comment.
I sure don’t blame Gebbia to leave this bull shit coaching staff and get the fuck off this disastrous train wreck.
Live how we pin them with a nice punt and immediately give it all back and more on the next play
Should have been a offensive PI on that play.
This is really starting to get old
Hawaii is going to score on a 97 yard drive to take the lead. Defense is tired and getting shredded. Tago went off.
It’s nearly midnight for our guys and it’s starting to show in their energy level
Let Pierce loose! They should seriously fly home without our defense
I would hope Luton gets benched after this game.
So much for our “fantastic” Oline we kept hearing about all week.
They were good until we began passing.
First time in my life I have absolutely no hope, beavers may break the 28 year bowl less streak
Luck o the Beavs, tip the pass and it still goes to the intended receiver.
Wow. Our guy punches our own guy. The wheels are officially off the bus.
lol we’re punching eachother on the sideline, nice.
Wow Hayes punches Roberts in the face.
This team is a train wreck
Who the hell is Caleb Hayes and what the fuck is wrong with him?
He is the newest ex-player from OSU
Some loco scrub from last chance u.
30 minutes later, and Pirce with his 11+ per carry average still only has 7 carries. That’s criminal
Luton…sigh
Is 11/25 the best we can do at QB?
No.
Wow. Luton is a terrible QB
But the coaches and reporters said he’s awesome. And he’s tall.
Now you get what I saw in the young man! #tallboypants
Gebbia better be in there after Hawaii scores.
Those are the best calls you can come up with on third and fourth down? This one is on Smith also.
Time to let Gibbia get some experience for next season. Luton should be the backup QB the rest of the season.
Luckily their kicker is worse than ours.
We have a chance to steal this game.
Run run run
UH, kicker giving Smith another perfect chance to insert Gebbia….
Luton’s experience and chemistry with receivers really paying off this half….
Choker transferred his curse to Hawaii? I hope?
Angry Luton looks like shit, I’ll give you that… But we shouldnt even be throwing the ball… Terrible play calling
Agree on both.
I’m stunned that Hawaii can get guys open so easily with a run route. We have one wr that can get open. It doesn’t even feel like we can scheme a second wr open (and when we do they drop it).
Wow
Most predictable fake ever?
Just go for it
Hawaii offense: the run and shoot
Beaver offense: the run and shoot ourselves in the foot
You make that up? Genius
Don’t forget to tip your server
We run a fake there?
Beavs deserve to lose tonight
Yes they do
But with 2:17 left and about to receive the kick. The Beavs could run the ball out of time for a cautious 34-31 win
Well if we score a TD to win it my prediction will be spot on.
I don’t see how luton leads a game winning drive but surprise me, “gunslinger “
Bet it ends in a turnover
A Luton pass batted down….
Need a KR to the house?!? Can’t see Luton doing it.
Who is the burner? Lindsey?
Can’t see Luton leading them on a game winning drive, not Luton returning the kick : )
It’s going to come down to a Choukair kick, isnt it?
I’ll pop the Xanax now.
You called it.
I’d rather go for it here
And that’s why
Your choices with the game on the line are luton pass or choker kick.
Do you now see why I wanted Gebbia?
Loss is on luton and the play calling. Smith too can’t have choker kicking a 52 yarder when he can’t make a 32 yarder
Yes, you’ve made your point multiple times. Thanks
and throwing a fucking fake punt from your own 30
Going with Crazy Legs would’ve been better than Luton. 3&10 was two down territory. Should’ve ran the ball twice. Well. Should’ve a lot of crazy nonsense
Choukair! Hey bud!!!
I’m not saying Tibesar is off the hook, but the offense and Smith messed the bed on this one. How do you let HAWAII shut you out in the second half?!
Giving up 31 to Hawaii is about what you’d expect this loss isn’t on the D
Agree it’s more on the O, but the D did benefit from 3 Hawaii missed FGs – easily could have been 40
Easily could have been 50. Hawaii dropped a lot of passes.
Whittley wakes up with a minute to go, sheesh!
Glad I stayed up
What in the world happened?
Second question, should I watch any more games this season?
Gebbia gets one non-con game to warm up, then two weeks to get ready for league play. Not bad.
Too bad it wasn’t following him leading a win in this game….the perfect transition.
Smith had a chance to make some statements to his team; bench togiai, bench luton, win with Gebbia, kick Hayes off the team…on to progress.
Smith is shitting the bed with those decisions.
Wow, I’m not sure I have any faith in Smith as a coach or the leader of the program after this cluster fuck.
Agree. Lost all faith in him tonight. Several reasons:
1. Luton was not the best option to win the game. If the coach claims he wants to put the players in the best position to win, you can’t tell me that was Luton (at least not tonight, though I don’t think ever).
2. Kicking with Choker from 52.
3. Fake punt when that is so obvious, and you should either punt or go for it with an actual QB.
4. Abandoning the run mid game and falling in love with Luton for no reason.
5. There must be more. (Just thought of another: have Luton throw a hail mary instead of some trick play that never works. The guy’s strength is supposed to be his 60 yard bombs. Haven’t seen one ever).
You can add, abandoning Pierce in the second half when he was probably the best player on the field in the first half. Zero touches?
Players fighting each other and fighting at the end of the game.
Yes I knew there were more. Thanks.
Ah, and yes, below, too regarding the fundamentals. We always suck at those.
Drive.
Killing.
Penalties.
Just the most comedic regression to hot garbage on so many fronts.
Luton, defense, coaching/game-management, and even some Chokeair.
Would love to argue and disagree but you nailed it.
The Beavers played like an inexperienced team coached by an inexperienced staff.
Seriously, the starting QB can’t throw a completion, wtf makes them think the punter can throw a completion????
Last week’s game made me glad I chose to go to Hawaii and spend time with friends instead of wasting my time watching the game.
This week’s game makes me glad I’m moving to China, and therefore won’t have neither the opportunity nor the temptation to follow this football program anymore.
Crap, beaver football is so offensive, it’s getting blocked by the Great Firewall
I hope Luton gets another year
FUCK!
Choug’d it.
New thread up. I’m tired so it might have typos and shit.
Headed to bed. Add points that I missed.
Can we please start doing some SEC scheduling?
We don’t need compelling Big 12/ Big 10 matchup now.
We need New Mexico St, PSU and San Jose St. to start a season. Put up some wins, go to a bowl, then look at maybe inviting a Kansas St to do a home and home.
Dear Coach Smith,
I would have pulled Luton early in the third quarter. With our ability to run, we just need a game manager to complete a few passes, not a gunslinger. That second half starting early in the third quarter with several missed passes in a row, drive killers. Luton doesn’t have the it factor. The look in his eyes is as one despairing of what to do, not of confidence. He has no touch on the short passes. I don’t take him as a winner. Would really like to see what Gebbia can do. BTW, what the hell was that fake punt? How can you set up your team for success with a call like that? Oh, you’ve got the same problem with your kicker as your quarterback. So disappointed in this team…So disappointed in myself for putting all this energy into fandome. Much better things I should be doing with my time..
From one coach to another, it’s all about utilizing your talent in the right places… Is there a place for pierce to be on the field at the same time as Jefferson, to swing the ball to him in short passes. I would bet Gebbia could make those passes, cause I’m not confident that Luton can throw a five yard pass easy for a back to catch, ie fourth and six and Hodge has to dive to his right for the ball pulling him away from the first down….
Well good luck. I think you will be a good coach some day. But right now, you are trying too hard, taking risks when you don’t have to.
Cr