I posted this in the prior thread, but since it’s important I will report here:
Regarding Les Miles, I spoke with a donor/source who actually spoke to him on the phone. Said Miles would have taken the job in a heartbeat and added:
“The main donors and the influential coaches and the admin‘s here at OSU all had themselves convinced that he wasn’t a good fit. I tried to convince people myself and they just didn’t want to hear it. I talked to him On and off for a couple of weeks, one time on the phone for an hour and a half, he asked all about the stadium the facilities the town etc.… And it stopped when he was informed that there was absolutely no interest. I talked to him at length on the phone about OSU and the opportunity here. He would of taken it in a heart beat. Swear on my child’s life.”
I wasn’t in love with the idea just because I didn’t know if he’d be able to replicate what he’s done in the past here. I think most were unsure. I wasn’t against and would’ve welcomed it tho.
WHY IS ANYONE THINKING WE LOSE THIS? WE ARE THE DAM BEAVERS THERES NO WAY WE LOSE TO A COMMUNITY COLLEGE THEIR PLAYERS SHOULD BE AWFUL COMPARED TO OURS WE SHOULD WIN 51-0!!!
We’re not losing. The far more likely scenario is an uninspired, too-close win. I don’t know what the spread is on this one, but if I bet, I’d take CP to cover
Weber St kinda out-classed them as an upper-echelon Big Sky team, but Cal Poly isn’t the worst FCS team we’ve ever faced (or lost to at home).
They run a true triple-option with a WR/RB playing QB as opposed to an actual QB that can also run, but I wouldn’t put it past us to make him look like a heisman candidate.
As the game wore on Weber St dominated the line of scrimmage and was churning out 15+ yard runs up the gut at will and ran away with it for something like 300 yards on the ground.
This should be a lot like the Southern Utah game last year, although Cal Poly does have marginally better talent. The offensive line should dominate and Jefferson/Pierce should make it a no-contest and take the pressure off Luton to do anything but hit wide-open receivers on routine looks, although we know he struggles with just that.
If they find some way to lose I think you’ve sadly gotta put JS and co on notice as potentially being a total bust as a Pac-12 coaching staff. I didn’t expect to see a big jump in Year 2 just because we are still so talent deficient on the D side. But what I can’t stomach is further regression from Year 1. They did a decent job of stabilizing the program and weathering the storm last year, but this year some warts are showing, enough so it could derail any chance of building the program before they can even get started.
Glass half full- Beavs 54-10 Gebbia starts and permanently takes over as the starter, season begins for real
Glass half empty- Beavs scrape by with Luton playing 4 uninspired quarters to do it, Gebbia begins transfer paperwork
Glass empty- Beavs lose, Luton plays all 4 quarters, D can’t stop a wing T offense, JS is seeking MR out on the sidelines for guidance, Gebbia transfers out on Sunday morning
Probably the last one at the rate this ship is sinking…
Beavers should rn 70% of the time, use clock, clearly win a snoozer, with Jefferson and Pierce will be wishing the field was 200 yards long so they could pad their stats…
A terrible Beavers run D is very thin at LB, so C-P will get yardage in chunks and a Cal Poly player will be their league’s Player of the Week.
The bad part is Luton will go into league play as the starter and the program and most of the fans will think everything is hunky dory. I’m still angry that Gebbia didn’t take over in the 3rd last week and come into this game as the starter. The perfect transition point handed to Smith and and fucked it up.
While that obviously sucks, it will be interesting to see what Pierce does with more carries, and hopefully Tyler. I don’t understand Baylor getting reps instead of Pierce….
Jefferson didn’t look like himself last game, was hobbled. I wondered why they didn’t put in pierce more in the second half, could have been a game changer.
Perfect corner throw to Hodgins, perfect catch and gets both feet down.
Pierce looks good too. A little worried that the OLine is only winning the battle about half the time, though. How many years have we been talking about the line not being great?
Decent first drive, although we look a bit slow/passive up front. Pierce being Pierce is nice.
Luton located the ball well but I hate how he locks on and telegraphs with his body even when we aren’t being challenged and he’s just hanging out back there.
I’m starting to think the same thing. Maybe no one else can catch his rifle shot throws. It looks like luton is trying to kill anyone he throws the ball at.
I thought the same thing. His numbers are good but agree with those saying he locks in on his primary target. Would like to see Gebbia get the 2nd half to see what we have in him.
Score is decent, but not a fan of the play calling. I think this is a great chance to work on the run blocking mentality of the O-Line, lots of passing with the line standing up and moving backwards.
Yikes. Cal Poly D quit and gave us easy mode there.
Luton still with the flat all-arm under-thrown ball. Big shitty miss on a routine screen the play before. He’s so frustrating even when he plays well and puts up good numbers.
With this game Luton enters the top 10 in career passing yards and TD passes. Where do such high expectations for a Beaver QB come from when this team has so many other glaring flaws?
Glad they are finally getting some deep throws. Almost none against OK state or Hawaii. Was thinking with all the talk of speed of Irish and Fleming’s, you need to bring Hodgins across the middle of post to get the safety to shadow and send Irish or Fleming’s over the top.
I know what you mean. I got a down vote for pointing out Luton is now in the OSU top 10 for career touchdowns and yardage. Some people would rather be right than actually see some success on the field.
Really like the business-like behavior of Baylor. Gets up and gives ball straight to ref after ripping off some yardage. Same way with the TD.
Defense playing much better, and disciplined — would like to see more forced punts, but overall can’t complain.
Looking forward to watching Gebbia, let’s go!!!
Kalani didn’t determine who started at QB for GA so I’d say it is unlikely that GA would still be here. But Sitake leaving destroyed the 2nd year recruiting class for GA which ends up being filled by most of the guys now playing on defense as upperclassmen…it set OSU back a few years for sure. He didn’t seem to flourish as a DC but apparently has some insight into the 25 yr old LDS college athlete mindset.
The difference is that the defense actually has to bat them down… they don’t bounce off the head of a standing lineman 20 ft in the air for an easy pick… first turnover of the year belongs to Gebbia
I’m curious why the quarterback isn’t getting laid out every option play. Seems like in the day they taught us that the QB pays to act like a RB…we just collapse and look at him, waiting for him to pitch the ball.
Someone should have contained on every play with the 3-4 it’s a LB on the strong side usually. They arnt pressing the QB. They’re trying to anticipate the pitch and losing at it. It’s more bad discipline then anything else.
The D is young so theoretically they can grow. Not sure they did.
They did a good job containing that qb, but that’s likely because cal poly is a glorified hs team.
At least the first game of conference play is now more interesting, and we have 2 weeks to improve and prepare. Confidence gained is the biggest takeaway…
“Confidence gained is the biggest takeaway”
And not just confidence of the players. Coaches now have seen game performance vs an opponent (yes, lower leverl) rather than on the practice field. Gamers vs Practice Hero’s.
Good win.
Convincing when I wasn’t expecting that.
Not much to take away from this in terms of player performance…cal poly so bad it’s hard to judge anyone. Oregon might beat up Stanford for us which will help.
Our front seven on D was better than I expected. Good assignment D, good reads, especially in the first half. They didn’t hurt us with the run game. The secondary – not as good a feeling.
But some confidence going into the Stanford game, who got waxed today, and also got torched by USC who is in OT with BYU
You already know he post his predictions every game. How about you start posting in that thread every week. It’s not hard, it’s not like anyone is stopping you.
He does this several times per year and never shows up when my predictions are spot on . Nor does he ever make any. It’ll be the same this time seen this dance.
Yes I was “so wrong” predicting a win.
You’re mad I didn’t predict a blowout? Have fun with that.
This is yet another lame and transparent attempt to discredit a blog you find threatening.
If being right is wrong, then I don’t ever want to be ‘right’. I predicted a small margin of victory today, but that’s because of the defense, not the offense. If our defense can play more assignment sound football like they did today, then the team will be better for it the rest of the year. We’ll see how the Ucks ‘handle’ Montana tonight and then Stanford next week before I make my prediction.
*Paying for my ex’s 4 year cal poly degree, so we didn’t have to take loans, then her filing for divorce when she graduated, may be an influencing factor.
Yep, everyone knows it’s against the spread lol… I am in the pool, are you? Lol… I like how you bring that up and your the one not even in it… There is a big difference between picking W/L and understanding the spread… Angry thought this was going to be a close game and it wasn’t even a competition… now it’s “I only spent 10 seconds picking”… last week it was “you all are in trouble, i’ve now seen the teams play”… give me a break… who can’t see through this BS
You take that CBS pool seriously? I spent 10 seconds on it and spent the same 10 seconds on it last week when I did well.
Telling you guys to watch out last week was obviously a joke/banter. I don’t know what to tell you if you’re this butthurt about cbs pool picks and banter. You problem.
He looked sharp aside from the one deflected pass. He didn’t have the same opportunities to put up numbers that Luton had in the first half. Haven’t seen the deep ball from him yet but otherwise he looks more than competent to take the reigns.
Deflected pass? He threw into the helmet of a standing lineman, no deflection at all… the jury is still out imo, I am not seeing the next coming of Aaron Rodgers yet
Hes better, Luton throws over and behind his receivers. Thank god he has hodgins to make up for his lack of accuracy. Gebbias mechanics are 100x better also. He did throw one into a lineman head, luton has done that on several occasions in the past also.
wait until his 6th year to pass judgement….if his passes are getting deflected by D lineman and he locks onto one receiver and is inconsistent between halves and/or games, and is poor on third downs, THEN weigh in…
He’s better? Show me the evidence… from what I’ve seen he’s got some twinkle toes.. hasn’t gone deep yet… throws picks into his own linemen… haven’t seen enough to have an opinion… yet here you all are saying he’s so much better… film ain’t shit, it’s about what you actually do on the field
Luton’s career consists of 15 games, not starts, 61% completion percentage, 3188 yards, and 22 TDs with 8 ints. Statistically one of the 10 best QBs ever at OSU. But Gebbia is better based on mop up time in 2 games.
Sorry you lost your sight, if you cant see from the little gebbias played so far, then I dont know what to tell you. Luton cant hit a reciever in stride, 55 pass competitions this season and hes done it once, one time. Luton mechanics suck it looks like a rolly fingers wind up and some sort of javelin throw combined. He has zero touch on the ball and I’m not sure the guy can throw a spiral (he might, but from the few replays I watched not one was a spiral). Gebbia is superior in all aspects from what I’m seeing, and leaving out the passing part the fact that he can run is a bonus (twinkle toes? Get the fuck out of here). Luton would be way better if he could run, he did one time and colorado state all but decapitated him, but then again if you run like a wounded giraffe that happens some times.
And I was all for the new and improved luton to come in and play as long as he is better. Only nothing is new and nothing is improved it’s the same old luton. Big deal he lead the team against the sister of the poor from cal poly. Hes not any better then last season, contrary to what the fake news media told us.
These guys are bored and trying to bait us into a Luton debate.
Gebbia is the better player, but he’s not going to get a chance to prove that this year barring injury. So until then these guys will look correct, even though they’re not.
I’ve yet to see the dude take a hit and make a throw (hence the twinkle toes reference)… happy feet makes for a good movie not a good QB but see what you want.. he needs to develop, glad he’s not starting… he can be good but needs some time
The problem is luton is no better then last year, we were sold a bill of goods that he was better, that is false. Why play him? I dont give a shit about feel good stories of redemption. Hes not helping the team improve, everytime he takes a snap its garbage time. Where as playing gebbia helps since he’ll be here 2 more years. Why not give him an extra year to improve?
Please give me a reason why playing luton now is better then developing gebbia going forward?
Wait so now it’s not that Gebbia is better than Luton, but it’s he should play more to improve? I would hate you as a coach… if It was my last last year as senior, I would want the person starting who gave me the best chance of winning… it’s obvious they aren’t going to a bowl game and it has nothing to do with the Quarterback… I am still trying to figure out what Gebbia has done better that would have made a difference in any outcome this year… he turned the ball over against Cal Poly… literally no pressure, the game was out of hand and he threw it into the line… Regardless of what you think it’s about winning games, and that’s exactly why Luton is starting
Jack opined that Kelly was going to have to clear out the prima donnas and get some players that were willing to work under him. There might have been some merit to that.
So if Chips on the market next year, should the Beavers pursue him? : )
Hey Scotty, I’m not sure if you wanted a bar, but you did ask about soapybeavs, and I have one extra bar if you want it. It’s pine tar. It’s manly…kind of medicinal. Odd but awesome…if so email me an address. The bars are going out Monday.
Big fan of Pierce but he made me think today after he walked out of bounds today one time without contact on a play when he could have got a couple more yards:
Baddest mofo to ever put on an OSU uniform, hardest running, hardest hitting, wasn’t scared of any contact ever, SOB:
Was just coming to Chuck’s defense and trying to put some perspective on what are fair expectations for an OSU QB. Besides, you need a couple non conformists to make
up for the loss of Jack. Have you forgotten how sideways those post game threads would get after he mixed his meds with booze?
I rarely watch yuck football but my daughter is at the game with her high school band…did you see the graphic 5 wr out with injuries? Maybe they’re trying to get some work for the back ups? But yeah weird up 30 and passing and going for it on 4th
Criscoballs, what a douche canoe, why not just kneel on the ball with 30 seconds left? I was really hoping one of those piss clad punks ripped a knee as karmic justice
Interesting comparison. Luton’s skillset would probably have more value in that era than it does today. DA had a big time arm but he struggled in college with touch and accuracy. He was a career 50% passer and averaged 1-2 ints per game. I was at the game at UW where they lost because Anderson couldn’t stop turning it over. I think he had 4 or 5 picks that day. DA also took sacks like Mannion. For every beautiful play he made there’d be another that would drive you crazy. Insert Luton in that era and I think he would have been fine.
Ha….I was there too! That game was a nightmare. Beavs would get in scoring position and find a way to turn the ball over. Traffic afterwards was a nightmare — my only game in Seattle.
The Devon Williams (USC transfer, 4*/5* WR recruit in 2018 class) visit to Oregon State today is a nice potential get for the Beavs.
Story goes that he was originally supposed to visit both OSU amd Oregon today, but he stayed long at OSU amd skipped the oregon leg of the trip.
The Nemec telling of the story sure makes it sound like Nemec is bugged he didn’t go to oregon yet, but that there’s plenty of time and it’s “early” in his recruitment.
But the part of the story Nemec isn’t telling is Williams would risk losing an extra year of eligibility if he doesn’t sign with a school before fall enrollment is over. Similar to last year when Gebbia/Gumbs/Roberts/Lindsey ended up here, OSU could also benefit from being one of the few schools that hasn’t already started fall term yet(oregon hasnt either) So in that sense, it is not early in his recruitment.
Anyway, worth keeping an eye on, because i dont think Williams will be on the market for more than a couple of weeks, and OSU actually has a decent shot at landing him.
I saw on Twitter that he also put FTD (fuck the duck) in his bio) on Twitter. Didn’t verify it but if that’s true, it’s looking pretty good for the Beavers.
Champ’s catch is up to 511k views on the Twitter and it made it onto ESPN plays of the day. He did great in his interview too. I’m happy for the kid. People on the Twitter are saying his mantra is “it’s the size of the fight in the dog”. Overall it’s great exposure for the whole team to people that wouldn’t normally tune in to OSU football.
PS
I’m with angry on benching Luton. We need to work on the future. Coach Smith can’t get out of his own way in regards to this.
As unpopular as it would seem to keep Luton as the starter over Gebbia; the coaches aren’t looking to add experience for Gebbia to match Luton’s time on the field with this team. This staff needs more than 2 wins( FCS Cal Poly and another PAC-12 team. Luton is better this year by a smidge. With that said, the offense needs to keep improving to attract recruits on the offensive side. Meanwhile we still need a lot of help on the defensive side of the ball. So until Luton throws multiple interceptions and stalls the offense multiple times a game, we won’t see Gebbia. The less situations we put choukair in will only help his confidence and stress level as well.
Luton is the right choice so long as they are competing and have the opportunity to win games in the 4th quarter.
He’s the wrong choice if his warts are preventing them from being competitive or if they are the difference in otherwise close games (poor mechanics, inaccuracy, inability to execute routine throws with consistency, locking onto receivers, slow processing etc).
He’s the wrong choice if the D is non-competitive and can’t keep them in games at all, even if he is otherwise playing well.
It’s marginally complex, but not a rocket-science kind of situation.
I think it would be interesting to see a true dual-threat quarterback within this system, but I don’t think it’s what Smith wants. Gebbia seems to have decent quickness, so he might be a nice compromise for next season. I don’t think Luton is coming out any time soon unless he completely implodes.
First
They won’t lose but it going to be closer then most think.
I posted this in the prior thread, but since it’s important I will report here:
Regarding Les Miles, I spoke with a donor/source who actually spoke to him on the phone. Said Miles would have taken the job in a heartbeat and added:
“The main donors and the influential coaches and the admin‘s here at OSU all had themselves convinced that he wasn’t a good fit. I tried to convince people myself and they just didn’t want to hear it. I talked to him On and off for a couple of weeks, one time on the phone for an hour and a half, he asked all about the stadium the facilities the town etc.… And it stopped when he was informed that there was absolutely no interest. I talked to him at length on the phone about OSU and the opportunity here. He would of taken it in a heart beat. Swear on my child’s life.”
I’ve always hated Les Miles as a person.
Why? Did he eat your lawn?
I wasn’t in love with the idea just because I didn’t know if he’d be able to replicate what he’s done in the past here. I think most were unsure. I wasn’t against and would’ve welcomed it tho.
I got the Beavs winning by 5 TDs
WHY IS ANYONE THINKING WE LOSE THIS? WE ARE THE DAM BEAVERS THERES NO WAY WE LOSE TO A COMMUNITY COLLEGE THEIR PLAYERS SHOULD BE AWFUL COMPARED TO OURS WE SHOULD WIN 51-0!!!
True
We’re not losing. The far more likely scenario is an uninspired, too-close win. I don’t know what the spread is on this one, but if I bet, I’d take CP to cover
Watched Cal Poly v Weber State last week.
Weber St kinda out-classed them as an upper-echelon Big Sky team, but Cal Poly isn’t the worst FCS team we’ve ever faced (or lost to at home).
They run a true triple-option with a WR/RB playing QB as opposed to an actual QB that can also run, but I wouldn’t put it past us to make him look like a heisman candidate.
As the game wore on Weber St dominated the line of scrimmage and was churning out 15+ yard runs up the gut at will and ran away with it for something like 300 yards on the ground.
This should be a lot like the Southern Utah game last year, although Cal Poly does have marginally better talent. The offensive line should dominate and Jefferson/Pierce should make it a no-contest and take the pressure off Luton to do anything but hit wide-open receivers on routine looks, although we know he struggles with just that.
If they find some way to lose I think you’ve sadly gotta put JS and co on notice as potentially being a total bust as a Pac-12 coaching staff. I didn’t expect to see a big jump in Year 2 just because we are still so talent deficient on the D side. But what I can’t stomach is further regression from Year 1. They did a decent job of stabilizing the program and weathering the storm last year, but this year some warts are showing, enough so it could derail any chance of building the program before they can even get started.
With Gaia’s immaculate blessing, 42-17 Beavs.
Glass half full- Beavs 54-10 Gebbia starts and permanently takes over as the starter, season begins for real
Glass half empty- Beavs scrape by with Luton playing 4 uninspired quarters to do it, Gebbia begins transfer paperwork
Glass empty- Beavs lose, Luton plays all 4 quarters, D can’t stop a wing T offense, JS is seeking MR out on the sidelines for guidance, Gebbia transfers out on Sunday morning
Probably the last one at the rate this ship is sinking…
Dreary afternoon in Ohio?
Just a sad form of PTSD after too many years of hoping for good things from Beavers football
Beavers should rn 70% of the time, use clock, clearly win a snoozer, with Jefferson and Pierce will be wishing the field was 200 yards long so they could pad their stats…
A terrible Beavers run D is very thin at LB, so C-P will get yardage in chunks and a Cal Poly player will be their league’s Player of the Week.
The bad part is Luton will go into league play as the starter and the program and most of the fans will think everything is hunky dory. I’m still angry that Gebbia didn’t take over in the 3rd last week and come into this game as the starter. The perfect transition point handed to Smith and and fucked it up.
Do we know officially if this game will be available to watch besides on the app?
It’s on the P-12 Network Oregon channel. I watch via Sling TV. I don’t know if there is an in through our Ukrainian friends.
I only see it on the app… I don’t have cable or satellite though… I would use reddit live TV streams if you don’t have the app
Stanford is getting their face kicked in by UCF
21-0 less than 7 minutes in to the game! Frost should haved stayed at UCF.
Air Force beats the Buffs in OT
Yikes Colorado.
Wait what, Jefferson is in a boot? :(
Das Boot.
Heard Jefferson is out.
While that obviously sucks, it will be interesting to see what Pierce does with more carries, and hopefully Tyler. I don’t understand Baylor getting reps instead of Pierce….
Jefferson didn’t look like himself last game, was hobbled. I wondered why they didn’t put in pierce more in the second half, could have been a game changer.
Nice Cal Poly does look physically overmatched. It’ll be interesting to watch our D.
Didn’t stop them from going right down the field!
Perfect corner throw to Hodgins, perfect catch and gets both feet down.
Pierce looks good too. A little worried that the OLine is only winning the battle about half the time, though. How many years have we been talking about the line not being great?
No Lindsey either although it doesn’t matter much as Luton doesn’t throw to him
2nd leading receiver.
Decent first drive, although we look a bit slow/passive up front. Pierce being Pierce is nice.
Luton located the ball well but I hate how he locks on and telegraphs with his body even when we aren’t being challenged and he’s just hanging out back there.
Yikes bystander D.
Any RS or commits going to bring some leadership to the D?
Morris would be a big addition if he ever plays…
True. Add Gumbs to that list; big loss.
You just knew that RFR was going to complete that long ball against the Beavers D….
Luton would have missed that….
Thinking that was Jaydon Grant supposed to be on that guy.
Christ…even I had my eyes on that guy coming out of the backfield from the start…wide open….
Do you have any eligibility left?
Ok might actually have to fire Tibesar after year 2.
They look passive and clueless. Very poorly coached. Get #33 Moore off the field (and he’s supposed to be our best).
Embarrassing.
#33 Jalen Moore is our only guy in the secondary
Hey, Moore is experienced, and that’s what counts! : )
Why wait until “after year 2?”
Moore is looking around like he can’t believe what’s going on. What’s with Pierce starting, is this make-up for the idiocy of the last game?
Irish drops a perfect pass. I was wondering why Luton was throwing to Hodgins so much, now I know.
Need Bradford back ASAP
I’m starting to think the same thing. Maybe no one else can catch his rifle shot throws. It looks like luton is trying to kill anyone he throws the ball at.
OK, so OSU has an SEC quality back who torched Ohio State for a couple of 80 yard TD runs, but we’re going to have Luton to Hodgins all day…
Hodgins is Keenan Allen 2.0
NFL > SEC
That throw and catch were what keep giving Luton playing time…not that Gebbia couldn’t make it, but that is why they forgive Luton’s weaknesses…
I think an NFL team would be smart to sign Pierce. He’s not very big, but there’s not much mileage on those legs and he can make impact plays.
Jefferson is out today? What happened?
Hobbled in second half last week, another reason to question why AP wasn’t given carries all through that half.
Foot problem.
Nike made special pairs of cleats for him.
I get no targeting but at least a late hit.
These announcers are good. Observant and funny.
Musgrave with the tackle on KO
Why did Irish slow down and essentially give up on that punt return?
I saw that too, no way he should have been tired. He’s got the Beaver fever…results in complacency, liw standards.
Isn’t he the fastest guy on the team?
Saw a penalty flag.
He knows who it’s on in real time? And a flag is reason to give up?
Another special teams penalty. Come on.
Oh shit luton checked down to Pierce it’s a miracle.
Baylor looked nifty there.
We have a nice stable of backs.
Baylor, nice move on the TD run! Wanna see some more of him, I don’t know what he can do, but that was a nifty dodge.
I’m bringing it back!
Luton putting like no touch on these throws. Good thing they’re not a real team.
Funny how good the cheerleaders look when the score goes your way.
Aydon was looking for rumbling stumbling touchdown on that fumble.
Luton needs to run there. One pump fake and he scores.
His arm isn’t good enough to not have the ability to run. He def needs to tuck it and go.
I thought the same thing. His numbers are good but agree with those saying he locks in on his primary target. Would like to see Gebbia get the 2nd half to see what we have in him.
“This guy had taken a lot of heat on Twitter [from angry beavs]. Just say it, guys!
Theres a reason he takes heat on twitter, its cuz he sucks.
And he promptly kicks it out of bounds.
It’s not twitter, but BIG JIM was clear that “offensive inconsistency” was the big takeaway from the HI game; highlighted Luton’s second half.
BIG JIM says the series that led to the FG was an effort by coaches to get Luton to throw to someone other than Hodgins.
Score is decent, but not a fan of the play calling. I think this is a great chance to work on the run blocking mentality of the O-Line, lots of passing with the line standing up and moving backwards.
And more than 50% of rushes to right, again.
We can’t run to the left… they get blown up every time, can’t blame blame them for running to right
All that experience, all that promo………for nuttin’
Togia learned to catch
CHAMP !!
Champ bails Luton out on that one
spot on.
not only underthrown, replay showed it coulda/shoulda been an int.
A TD catch, not a TD throw…
Luton still foesn’t Throw a decent spiral. Amazing.
Good opportunity to get Gebbia some time in the 2nd half.
You would hope so but I won’t hold my breath
Lol how embarrassing for that DB
Also Luton. Just fkn step into it with your giant 6’7 frame and throw a proper deep ball that doesn’t sail or flounder I’m begging you.
Tibs should be pissed if the Mustangs are allowed to get points in the last 1.5 minutes of the half.
Critical time as shown, again, last week.
They should give Gebbia the entire 2nd half now
Cal Poly is horrible.
But we need the confidence boost.
It’s like when a guy sleeps with a fat girl after a breakup.
Almost spit up a mouth full of water while reading that…
It’s funny, we should play guys like this ever season for the first game. Yet we are the ones who end up in that position…….we are the fat girls!
Yikes. Cal Poly D quit and gave us easy mode there.
Luton still with the flat all-arm under-thrown ball. Big shitty miss on a routine screen the play before. He’s so frustrating even when he plays well and puts up good numbers.
He is what he is and will be exposed.
Let him enjoy Cal Poly
He’s showcasing his FCS caliber skills…
A bad day for the Luton sucks crowd.
Not entirely. Still looking for a pass caught in stride.
Lol! You looking for Joe Montana to show up?
With this game Luton enters the top 10 in career passing yards and TD passes. Where do such high expectations for a Beaver QB come from when this team has so many other glaring flaws?
Actually my feeling about Luton isn’t a lot different than what you’ve expressed. Just not convinced the cost/benefit favors him over Gebbia.
Agree on the “so many other glaring flaws”.
Imagine if Luton was granted a 7th year of eligibility. He might crack the top 5 ;)
Champ is having himself a game! Time to get Gebbia out there.
If you weren’t listening to radio you missed Ron Callan’s short visit with Adley. Kid is the definition of pure class!
Is Oklahoma St. good or not? Tulsa ahead 21-20 with 10 minutes left in the third.
T Boone reparations.
Their QB is having a bad game… Hubbard has almost ran for 200 yards and averaging 10 yds per carry
How are they not ranked… if they were notre dame or Florida they would be a top ten team
I don’t want to see a second-half let up like last year against Southern Utah. I’m in the mood for a complete FCS thrashing to make a statement.
Glad they are finally getting some deep throws. Almost none against OK state or Hawaii. Was thinking with all the talk of speed of Irish and Fleming’s, you need to bring Hodgins across the middle of post to get the safety to shadow and send Irish or Fleming’s over the top.
We have a new oc!
Jesus, stanford get gang raped in florida.
That’s not good for OSU. Does Stanford have a bye before coming to Corvallis?
I think we do.
True, and no bye for Stanford before the game in Corvallis.
Bet Luton gets at least the first series, maybe more, to try and get TD #5….
My money is with you.
Is Gebbia going to play today?
Or do we need a 40 pt cushion first?
History says yes with the game out of reach with 4 minutes left.
Aka the Riley model
Why are there WSU commercials about this stupid bank.
Capitalism
the Mike Leach factor. a coach with a big personality profile
Their QB looked slow on that run for a first down….
Looked like Gebbia had his helmet on.
Can’t run left, eh?
It’s only to the left when were going the other way. Duh.
Baylor looked like he was running out of gas.
That’s what I was saying about Gebbia.
He has some wheels.
Wheels? Lmao
Compared to luton hes a fucking rocket ship.
Luton would have overthrown to the guy in the corner…
I dont think he would have had the time to wind up and fire it to a guy 5 yards from him.
Reaching
In that Aaron Rodgers kind of way
we haven’t seen a QB score like that since Matt Moore was at the helm
Someone thumbed down reality and the success of a beav.
I know what you mean. I got a down vote for pointing out Luton is now in the OSU top 10 for career touchdowns and yardage. Some people would rather be right than actually see some success on the field.
Blowing a team out! Wow!
Gebbia with a nice decision.
Really like the business-like behavior of Baylor. Gets up and gives ball straight to ref after ripping off some yardage. Same way with the TD.
Defense playing much better, and disciplined — would like to see more forced punts, but overall can’t complain.
Looking forward to watching Gebbia, let’s go!!!
OSU getting coverage sacks against a FCS triple option team…improvement!
Decapitated Irish
Well, Irish going to be on concussion protocol…that need to sit him after that.
Nice. Musgrave.
Dude could be gronk light edition
Gebbia looking sharp. If Luton doesn’t produce early against Stanford, Gebbia deserves to go in.
And on cue he throws a ball off his lineman’s head
the coaches will be blinded by Luton’s glorious first half against Cal Poly…
Gebbia to Musgrave on third down to move the chains…fuck me…
Gebbia to the back of his O lines head. Ouch!
Luton would have killed him
Bear shot slug
Kalani didn’t determine who started at QB for GA so I’d say it is unlikely that GA would still be here. But Sitake leaving destroyed the 2nd year recruiting class for GA which ends up being filled by most of the guys now playing on defense as upperclassmen…it set OSU back a few years for sure. He didn’t seem to flourish as a DC but apparently has some insight into the 25 yr old LDS college athlete mindset.
No. He impregnated a cheerleader.
That’s actually pretty funny and probably true
OK, Rev, its not Christian to gloat! lol
Bad look for Gebbia throwing it off an oline’s helmet lol. Luton would have try pretty hard to pull that off, although wouldn’t put it past him.
His get batted down despite being 6”7
With regularity….
Gebbia in his few has done the same to be fair.
Not much to take away from the time Gebbia was able to play. Nice to see the threat of a mobil qb in the red zone. Was playing with backup receivers.
that TD run IS the takeaway from Gebbia’s stint
The difference is that the defense actually has to bat them down… they don’t bounce off the head of a standing lineman 20 ft in the air for an easy pick… first turnover of the year belongs to Gebbia
Still trying to figure out what to think of this defense.
Arnt these all the twos? I’m not paying attention.
Avery Roberts and Hamilcar Rashed still in at least. Haven’t seen Colletto at all yet.
They’re pretty bad.
What’s there to figure out? They’re bad. Really bad.
Slightly less historically bad than last year. Slightly.
Who is strangling a cow near Reser?!?
I’m curious why the quarterback isn’t getting laid out every option play. Seems like in the day they taught us that the QB pays to act like a RB…we just collapse and look at him, waiting for him to pitch the ball.
GWH
PS: we can’t pull off a three-man front.
Someone should have contained on every play with the 3-4 it’s a LB on the strong side usually. They arnt pressing the QB. They’re trying to anticipate the pitch and losing at it. It’s more bad discipline then anything else.
Were not pieces of shit and the qb to off himself 20 years down the line over a game?
Huh? You force him to make a decision by TACKLING HIM, not looking at him. Not sure what you mean.
Anyone know whether Lavaka or Hayes played?
Lavaka was in on Gebbia’s TD run
Hayes for sure, Lavaka…..I think so.
Defense looking better last game and a half
The D is young so theoretically they can grow. Not sure they did.
They did a good job containing that qb, but that’s likely because cal poly is a glorified hs team.
At least the first game of conference play is now more interesting, and we have 2 weeks to improve and prepare. Confidence gained is the biggest takeaway…
“Confidence gained is the biggest takeaway”
And not just confidence of the players. Coaches now have seen game performance vs an opponent (yes, lower leverl) rather than on the practice field. Gamers vs Practice Hero’s.
Champ, Musgrave, several others
This is exactly why opening vs bad teams is important.
Another big takeaway is to create a proper schedule.
like the way UW, WSU do it. The evidence is all around us but no in Corvallis seems to get it
Good win.
Convincing when I wasn’t expecting that.
Not much to take away from this in terms of player performance…cal poly so bad it’s hard to judge anyone. Oregon might beat up Stanford for us which will help.
Our front seven on D was better than I expected. Good assignment D, good reads, especially in the first half. They didn’t hurt us with the run game. The secondary – not as good a feeling.
But some confidence going into the Stanford game, who got waxed today, and also got torched by USC who is in OT with BYU
So the Pac has another down year…UW, Utah, and UO will be the faves.
At until those players start going to USC and UCLA to take advantage of the new Ca state law…
Cal beat UW so they’re going to be up there
I have a shred of hope for the Stanford, UCLA, and Arizona games this season
I am in the same boat with hope for those 3 games.
USC lost to Kalani Satake’s fighting Mormons holy crap
It’s not like USC is great. They squeaked by Fresno at home and blewout Tree…who was overrated, going down something like 38-7 at the half at UCF.
Did building the dam get their 5th comment yet?
ASU a nice win.
Herm surprisingly decent
ASU beat Michigan State.
Angry, thank you for that game preview and all your insight from your time living in CA. Spot on.
Thanks for no prediction and showing up like a coward after the fact.
Lol, no shit.
Thanks for upvoting your own comment, too.
Wasn’t my vote. Nobody comes here for my predictions.
If you want to start announcing predictions before each game to see who’s closer I’m down.
Have ya jumped in on the poll set up by Nicebeaver?
Of course he didnt, hes a giant pussy.
I’m pretty sure we had this exact conversation the last time you made your same “point”. And yet here you are with no predictions.
You all ready called it, hes a coward and a troll. Hes here because hes a contrarian, he’ll never admit when hes wrong or when you’re right.
You already know he post his predictions every game. How about you start posting in that thread every week. It’s not hard, it’s not like anyone is stopping you.
He does this several times per year and never shows up when my predictions are spot on . Nor does he ever make any. It’ll be the same this time seen this dance.
You’re totally right angry (that feel better?) I’m here only cuz you were wrong. But by wrong, you were soooooo wrong.
Yes I was “so wrong” predicting a win.
You’re mad I didn’t predict a blowout? Have fun with that.
This is yet another lame and transparent attempt to discredit a blog you find threatening.
Then you have 2 weeks to come up with a prediction. It shouldn’t be that hard.
Lol this blog is threatening? Lol!! You’re right angry, you did predict a win!! Spot on!! Take your talent to Vegas!!
If being right is wrong, then I don’t ever want to be ‘right’. I predicted a small margin of victory today, but that’s because of the defense, not the offense. If our defense can play more assignment sound football like they did today, then the team will be better for it the rest of the year. We’ll see how the Ucks ‘handle’ Montana tonight and then Stanford next week before I make my prediction.
I predict Beavs beat Cal Poly.
*Paying for my ex’s 4 year cal poly degree, so we didn’t have to take loans, then her filing for divorce when she graduated, may be an influencing factor.
https://giphy.com/gifs/southpark-comedy-central-10×08-xTiTnwgQ8Wjs1sUB4k
“upvoting your own comment”
Classic!…………the kind of thing done by trolls on O-Live…….back in the day.
Just look at Angry’s predictions for any game this week… not trying to hate but angry@angry has a point
Are you talking about the CBS pick’em? Lol so that’s some sort of serious business now.
It’s not serious business but it does show the basic understanding of football games… give em a break? It’s not a stretch
Still lookin’ for a@a’s predictions on the CBS Pick ’em. Got a pseudonym ?
I bet you are… I could care less about angry@angry predictions… the point is Angry is not a football god none of us are
Predicting a win or loss is = betting the spread. Funny stuff. Are you on the pick’em? You do know its against the spread right?
I literally spent 10 seconds on those picks. I even forgot to pick anyone in the Stanford game b/c I did them so fast.
Yep, everyone knows it’s against the spread lol… I am in the pool, are you? Lol… I like how you bring that up and your the one not even in it… There is a big difference between picking W/L and understanding the spread… Angry thought this was going to be a close game and it wasn’t even a competition… now it’s “I only spent 10 seconds picking”… last week it was “you all are in trouble, i’ve now seen the teams play”… give me a break… who can’t see through this BS
You take that CBS pool seriously? I spent 10 seconds on it and spent the same 10 seconds on it last week when I did well.
Telling you guys to watch out last week was obviously a joke/banter. I don’t know what to tell you if you’re this butthurt about cbs pool picks and banter. You problem.
UW buttfucking Hawaii. 35-0 2nd quarter.
Nicebeaver. Crapzano is reporting USC transfer WR Devon Williams was at the game today. I believe he was the #1 WR in the 2018 class. Any info ?
I missed the second half. Did Gebbia come in the 3rd or the 4th quarter. I see a TD and an INT so I don’t know what to think about it…
Edit: read the comments. It was so-so. Not enough to take over starting duties.
He looked sharp aside from the one deflected pass. He didn’t have the same opportunities to put up numbers that Luton had in the first half. Haven’t seen the deep ball from him yet but otherwise he looks more than competent to take the reigns.
Deflected pass? He threw into the helmet of a standing lineman, no deflection at all… the jury is still out imo, I am not seeing the next coming of Aaron Rodgers yet
Hes better, Luton throws over and behind his receivers. Thank god he has hodgins to make up for his lack of accuracy. Gebbias mechanics are 100x better also. He did throw one into a lineman head, luton has done that on several occasions in the past also.
wait until his 6th year to pass judgement….if his passes are getting deflected by D lineman and he locks onto one receiver and is inconsistent between halves and/or games, and is poor on third downs, THEN weigh in…
6th year at osu or 6th year total?
I take your point, but some observers consider the 5th year to be early enough…
He’s better? Show me the evidence… from what I’ve seen he’s got some twinkle toes.. hasn’t gone deep yet… throws picks into his own linemen… haven’t seen enough to have an opinion… yet here you all are saying he’s so much better… film ain’t shit, it’s about what you actually do on the field
Luton’s career consists of 15 games, not starts, 61% completion percentage, 3188 yards, and 22 TDs with 8 ints. Statistically one of the 10 best QBs ever at OSU. But Gebbia is better based on mop up time in 2 games.
Quit pulling up stats… it’s all about game film from high school, that’s all that matters apparently… Mechanics > real world stats
Sorry you lost your sight, if you cant see from the little gebbias played so far, then I dont know what to tell you. Luton cant hit a reciever in stride, 55 pass competitions this season and hes done it once, one time. Luton mechanics suck it looks like a rolly fingers wind up and some sort of javelin throw combined. He has zero touch on the ball and I’m not sure the guy can throw a spiral (he might, but from the few replays I watched not one was a spiral). Gebbia is superior in all aspects from what I’m seeing, and leaving out the passing part the fact that he can run is a bonus (twinkle toes? Get the fuck out of here). Luton would be way better if he could run, he did one time and colorado state all but decapitated him, but then again if you run like a wounded giraffe that happens some times.
And I was all for the new and improved luton to come in and play as long as he is better. Only nothing is new and nothing is improved it’s the same old luton. Big deal he lead the team against the sister of the poor from cal poly. Hes not any better then last season, contrary to what the fake news media told us.
These guys are bored and trying to bait us into a Luton debate.
Gebbia is the better player, but he’s not going to get a chance to prove that this year barring injury. So until then these guys will look correct, even though they’re not.
I’ve yet to see the dude take a hit and make a throw (hence the twinkle toes reference)… happy feet makes for a good movie not a good QB but see what you want.. he needs to develop, glad he’s not starting… he can be good but needs some time
The problem is luton is no better then last year, we were sold a bill of goods that he was better, that is false. Why play him? I dont give a shit about feel good stories of redemption. Hes not helping the team improve, everytime he takes a snap its garbage time. Where as playing gebbia helps since he’ll be here 2 more years. Why not give him an extra year to improve?
Please give me a reason why playing luton now is better then developing gebbia going forward?
Wait so now it’s not that Gebbia is better than Luton, but it’s he should play more to improve? I would hate you as a coach… if It was my last last year as senior, I would want the person starting who gave me the best chance of winning… it’s obvious they aren’t going to a bowl game and it has nothing to do with the Quarterback… I am still trying to figure out what Gebbia has done better that would have made a difference in any outcome this year… he turned the ball over against Cal Poly… literally no pressure, the game was out of hand and he threw it into the line… Regardless of what you think it’s about winning games, and that’s exactly why Luton is starting
Chip Kelly is going to get fired.
That team looks so uninspired and like they don’t want to play for him at all.
He seems like an irritating putz. That only works if you’re winning.
Hes not an irritating putz. Hes an unlikable cunt.
Jack opined that Kelly was going to have to clear out the prima donnas and get some players that were willing to work under him. There might have been some merit to that.
So if Chips on the market next year, should the Beavers pursue him? : )
41-14 with about 10 minutes left…Chip is on the receiving end in college football, not something he’s really accustomed to.
Curious to see if he perseveres somewhere or just becomes a consultant.
At some point. Probably not this year. Doing a coaching change every 2 years is a disaster. Just look at Tennesse.
Clemson’s receivers are amazing
Looks like North Texas was at least semi-competitive with Cal? Lost 23-17, though don’t know if NT put points up late against back ups.
PAC not looking so great.
Champ got Randy Moss’s attention today. Pretty cool for him.
https://mobile.twitter.com/mwachamp/status/1173023317730582528
424K views…the most to see Beaver football this year. Nice exposure. Maybe he’ll make top 10 for some sport shows as well.
Now that’s awesome.
Angry? I thought you had all the teams figured out in the pick’em? You gonna get one right this week?
I figured I’d give you guys a chance to catch up.
Thank you sir, I appreciate it ;)
Slick willie lost again, does he get fired at end of season?
What does the fortune cookie say about losing your dream job?
Montana not getting boat raced so far in the first half
Angry may hate me, but I don’t hate him… donated to you bro, but that just means I can continue to talk shit
Nothing but wubs on AngryBeavs <3
Hey Scotty, I’m not sure if you wanted a bar, but you did ask about soapybeavs, and I have one extra bar if you want it. It’s pine tar. It’s manly…kind of medicinal. Odd but awesome…if so email me an address. The bars are going out Monday.
Thanks, angry! I am 100% sure it would be wasted on me, though, so please kick it to a fellow angrybeav :-)
I don’t really hate anyone. Except maybe Keith Pankey. But even that wasn’t his fault. Oh yeah, I hate Riley.
Keaton Kritick? He seemed way overrated, but Pankey worse.
Matt Moore 2006 14 games
61% comp for 3022 18 td 7 ints
Jake Luton 15 games played
61% comp for 3188 yrds 22 tds 8 ints
Moore had way better mechanics, I don’t know what your getting at ;)
Are they as good as Gebbias
Moore played on winning teams and played in bowl games. Luton plays on losing teams and plays bowl games on playstation.
Hard to compare those differs eras. The targeting penalties have really changed the game into pattycake compared to the bad mofo game it used to be.
Big fan of Pierce but he made me think today after he walked out of bounds today one time without contact on a play when he could have got a couple more yards:
Baddest mofo to ever put on an OSU uniform, hardest running, hardest hitting, wasn’t scared of any contact ever, SOB:
Ken Simonton
Matt Moore was so much better.
Stats don’t paint an entire picture.
why don’t you show win/loss records; maybe 3rd conversion rate would be relevant too
why don’t you show win/loss records; maybe 3rd down conversion rate would be relevant too
Chuck sure does have a mouth, and that’s the feistiest Reverend I’ve ever met.
And that’s the angriest beaver I have met… trust me, I’ve seen many beavers and none have been as angry as that one ;)
Was just coming to Chuck’s defense and trying to put some perspective on what are fair expectations for an OSU QB. Besides, you need a couple non conformists to make
up for the loss of Jack. Have you forgotten how sideways those post game threads would get after he mixed his meds with booze?
Don’t speak ill of the dead.
By the way RIP to Terrell Roberts a bad ass mofo who scored a TD in the Fiesta Bowl and then took a senseless bullet this week in Richmond CA.
Him and Jack are tossing a Nerf around in an alternate universe.
If Jack is tossing a nerf in Heaven, I need to make other travel arrangements.
now that is funny, especially coming from a reverend
Boise’s blue field is the stupidest gimmick in college football
True.
I heard birds commit suicide on it regularly (probably not true).
Ducks passing more than running, going for it on 4th down, when the game is out of reach already.
Beavs had Gebbia pass only 5 times, all of them short, in the last quarter and a half
I rarely watch yuck football but my daughter is at the game with her high school band…did you see the graphic 5 wr out with injuries? Maybe they’re trying to get some work for the back ups? But yeah weird up 30 and passing and going for it on 4th
And still unable to cover the spread.
Criscoballs, what a douche canoe, why not just kneel on the ball with 30 seconds left? I was really hoping one of those piss clad punks ripped a knee as karmic justice
if my math is right Beavs did better against a Big Sky opponent this week
Holy shit! Luton tore up a FCS school?? Luton > D.A
Interesting comparison. Luton’s skillset would probably have more value in that era than it does today. DA had a big time arm but he struggled in college with touch and accuracy. He was a career 50% passer and averaged 1-2 ints per game. I was at the game at UW where they lost because Anderson couldn’t stop turning it over. I think he had 4 or 5 picks that day. DA also took sacks like Mannion. For every beautiful play he made there’d be another that would drive you crazy. Insert Luton in that era and I think he would have been fine.
I was at that game too, in Seattle. I saw DA hit the opposing DB’s right on the numbers so many times during his career with the Beavs
Ha….I was there too! That game was a nightmare. Beavs would get in scoring position and find a way to turn the ball over. Traffic afterwards was a nightmare — my only game in Seattle.
https://gohuskies.com/news/2002/11/9/208030386.aspx
Luton has “touch” and “accuracy”?
The Devon Williams (USC transfer, 4*/5* WR recruit in 2018 class) visit to Oregon State today is a nice potential get for the Beavs.
Story goes that he was originally supposed to visit both OSU amd Oregon today, but he stayed long at OSU amd skipped the oregon leg of the trip.
The Nemec telling of the story sure makes it sound like Nemec is bugged he didn’t go to oregon yet, but that there’s plenty of time and it’s “early” in his recruitment.
But the part of the story Nemec isn’t telling is Williams would risk losing an extra year of eligibility if he doesn’t sign with a school before fall enrollment is over. Similar to last year when Gebbia/Gumbs/Roberts/Lindsey ended up here, OSU could also benefit from being one of the few schools that hasn’t already started fall term yet(oregon hasnt either) So in that sense, it is not early in his recruitment.
Anyway, worth keeping an eye on, because i dont think Williams will be on the market for more than a couple of weeks, and OSU actually has a decent shot at landing him.
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/09/11/reports-usc-wide-receiver-devon-williams-enters-transfer-portal/
I saw on Twitter that he also put FTD (fuck the duck) in his bio) on Twitter. Didn’t verify it but if that’s true, it’s looking pretty good for the Beavers.
And Nemec said he did not make it to the Oregon game
My concern would be what is Williams doing that is not allowing him to crack the WR rotation at USC?
Champ’s catch is up to 511k views on the Twitter and it made it onto ESPN plays of the day. He did great in his interview too. I’m happy for the kid. People on the Twitter are saying his mantra is “it’s the size of the fight in the dog”. Overall it’s great exposure for the whole team to people that wouldn’t normally tune in to OSU football.
PS
I’m with angry on benching Luton. We need to work on the future. Coach Smith can’t get out of his own way in regards to this.
As unpopular as it would seem to keep Luton as the starter over Gebbia; the coaches aren’t looking to add experience for Gebbia to match Luton’s time on the field with this team. This staff needs more than 2 wins( FCS Cal Poly and another PAC-12 team. Luton is better this year by a smidge. With that said, the offense needs to keep improving to attract recruits on the offensive side. Meanwhile we still need a lot of help on the defensive side of the ball. So until Luton throws multiple interceptions and stalls the offense multiple times a game, we won’t see Gebbia. The less situations we put choukair in will only help his confidence and stress level as well.
Luton is the right choice so long as they are competing and have the opportunity to win games in the 4th quarter.
He’s the wrong choice if his warts are preventing them from being competitive or if they are the difference in otherwise close games (poor mechanics, inaccuracy, inability to execute routine throws with consistency, locking onto receivers, slow processing etc).
He’s the wrong choice if the D is non-competitive and can’t keep them in games at all, even if he is otherwise playing well.
It’s marginally complex, but not a rocket-science kind of situation.
I think it would be interesting to see a true dual-threat quarterback within this system, but I don’t think it’s what Smith wants. Gebbia seems to have decent quickness, so he might be a nice compromise for next season. I don’t think Luton is coming out any time soon unless he completely implodes.