Run the ball and then run some more! I guess the Beavs are 2nd in the nation in line yards. They should be running it as much as a triple option team. Nolan should throw about 15 times after they have established the run. If landman is out it should be a blowout.
For shit’s sake, it looks like Arizona is going to beat “Cal Light”. Up 10-3 with a minute and a half left with the ball. Timing is everything in life! Luck O’ The Beavs.
Wow, missing some players or not, Cal losing to UA 10-3 after nearly hanging 40 on the Beavs last week isn’t a good look for the Beavs. Zona only gives up 30 total rushing yards to the Beavs like 280. Good work Tibs!
Dude their starting QB and backup were out along with 22 other players. There isn’t many teams that can overcome that. Its like playing your scout team.
Not saying they should’ve won but they played one of the worst teams in the country and a team that hasn’t won in the Pac for almost 2 years. Getting more than 30 yds rushing even missing some players is more than doable. Not like they played Bama.
Should be able to run their base offense and defense right at them and win by 2 scores while in control of the game for the duration. If it turns into a defensive struggle where they somehow abandon the run or a shootout and they’re getting torched and exposed (again) in the secondary they earn 100 more #FireTibs points.
Shenault back. Can we contain him? Can we get pressure on the QB? Can we be better than 50% on 3rd down? Will our coaches see success in the run game then decide that it’s working too well and start throwing deep routes only? How many fake punts or 4th downs will we go for? So many questions!
I will never understand why we insist on dropping 8 and only rushing 3 on 3rd and long. We get absolutely no pressure and then they find the soft spots in the zone. And because we are below average on defense, those soft spots always open up. I don’t understand the thinking of continuing to play that way. It’s not like we’re shutting down the pass or anything.
Jim Wilson was criticizing the missed tackling on the first play; Austin and some other guy. And then the dumb ass long pass on our first play of offense, that wasn’t within 10 yards of the receiver notwithstanding the idiocy of calling a long pass; followed by too many men the huddle. What a shit show.
Wow. Good thing we don’t like to run the ball. Looks like we’re trying to outsmart ourselves again. Is there something in their contracts where they get a bonus for having less than 6 wins?
Sounds like it’s going to be a long afternoon, even if Beavers win. Wrong play calling, executing poorly this late in the season against a team this bad?
Announcers said at start the Beavs had bad practices before Cal and it carried over to game. But supposedly a good this week. We’re they talking about the kick off squad?
Smith will start his press conference talking about the slow start, the penalties, the missed assignments. Then he will talk about how they really need to look at those things and make some adjustments next week. I can’t wait.
Just pass every down, who gives a shit at this point. We get zero help from the defense. We might as well make this a complete cluster fuck instead of half of one.
Also comforting to see how hapless Colorado is after a missed fg. Just run the ball and stop fooling around with Nolan passing for a while. Baylor outside, Baylor inside, Gould fly sweep please.
They need to figure out a bribe or something for players to get sacks. Its like they’re just going through yhe motions. I was watching a UCLA game and they come hard on the blitzes.
I wish we would quickly run a play on these close calls. Seems like we prefer to wait and give them plenty of time to decide to review further. And then follow that with a pass into double coverage.
I’ll go in the booth and call only run plays and and we’ll win by 20. Nolan sucks and never looks at his crackdown. Wide open Lowe. Put in Noyer and run the ball.
Bring in Noyer for the 2nd half. He’s not as bad as he was in the Purdue game and he is probably motivated for this game. He looked good with Colorado last year. Just run the ball with a few occasional PA passes.
Beavs are averaging 5.4 yards per rush. Why do the coaches move away from team strengths. That is what I loved about David Shaws good Stanford teams. He would run the same play over and over until it got stopped. We are trying to be too cute by half. Run the dang ball!!!!!!
Might be the worst half of football I’ve seen in a long time. Just plain bad everything. Top to bottom. So lucky to be down 3, but lucky as can be that Colorado is so bad this season.
Is there something special about the CU defense, that Lindgren can’t call a fly sweep? This game has been a WTF from the Beav’s first series on offense.
Interestingly, all of our Pac 12 wins have been with 19 or less pass attempts. Losses have all been over 20 attempts. We currently are at 15. Baylor and Lowe both over 5 yd averages. Well so are colletto and Nolan for that matter. This is the 91st run defense in the country. Have no idea why we are making this so hard. Not sure how we got to 5 wins playing like we have recently. The team from the last 2 weeks might only win vs Idaho.
Anybody getting worried Baylor might enter the portal and go run for a better coached team and a shot at a real bowl game?
Seeing his OC go away from the team’s strength @ WSU when it counted, and against one of the worst rush defenses in the conference, may make him consider other opportunities.
At some point the analytics will prove to Smith these are terrible 4th down play calls. We have plenty of stats from our own team this year to prove it
Well, if they score on this short field, game over. Would have never gone for that at this point in the game. This is just awful. Beavers might not win another game all season.
Dont mind the going for it on fourth but hate the call. Nolan is bad Nolan today and completely unreliable. Not that it was his fault on that 1. Lindgren calling a stinker.
The more significant question is why the lack of runs called.
Doesn’t matter, answer will be “did what we thought would give us the best chance to win”…….no follow up question will be takenl.
I just remembered bowl eligibility is on the line….is that why this staff is puckering these last two games?
tisebar should be fired this week, Bray to serve as Acting. there’s a stadium renovation on the way, and you’re not going to sell those premimum lodge seass with these kind of shit shows. The AD needs to be willing to push Smith, hold people accountable and demonstrate there are expectations for improvement.
Hell, Smith ought to be intervening on Tisebar’s poor gameplanning (LBs on WRs again?) and Lindgren throwing too much. Don’t just sit there and be passive. Take action.
This is a pathetic showing, and I’m just looking at the boxscore and comments here.
Bottom line the D coordinator is really bad. Smith I think is Riley and would never fire him. So bad. He cannot adjust at all. Obviously the whole league figured it out yet same stuff every game.
Why don’t they blitz a young qb? I’m really tired of Nolan seeing blitzes and lots of pressure but Beavs rarely get to the qb anymore.
I won’t say game over, but I am beginning to wonder what is going on with JS and his staff. It looked loike the D just quit on the coach after that 4th down fail.
I need to dig up the 2018 Nevada game. I know in the comments I said Smith cost us the game with awful clutch decisions…think it was a 4th call or messing something up with the FG. Remember making a big deal of it because of how extraordinarily bad it was.
Something about using a timeout during that stretch too. Like we could have called a time out to get a couple extra plays in… I think I remember that correctly.
It’s almost like he is taking the risk just to take it. I had no problem in the first half down near the goal line but on your side of the field down 3. Just why?
Why not? He’s got like 3 more years either way until our pussy fanbase even dares to start coalescing around the idea of whether he’s the right man for the job or not.
It use to be the talent that held this team back. Now it’s the staff decisions/lack of adjustments from game to game. I’d rather watch a well executing team that loses than a team that just does dumb stuff. They should be way better at this point in the season.
completely agree krol; that’s what I meant up top about this reminding me of the late Riley era. we had talent; team was not well coached. That’s the difference with Anderson–he didn’t have any talent
It’s like the coaches don’t want to admit the identity of the team….get as many plays as possible to your players in space — this team has like 10 fast as hell scat backs.
Alumni need to pay for a Texas Holdem or Rooulette table he can run over and get it out of his system between plays….he absolutely can’t resist. Beavs have left about 5 wins on the table because of him.
A bit strange to watch a team where the players have a better understanding of their own team identity than the coaches.
You watch Lowe, Gould, Bradford, Harrison and Baylor during this game and they just keep grinding despite JS.
I don’t want to hear any of the vomit from smiths mouth during the press conference. He put his tenure there back to square one with these last two losses. Is it worse to suck and lose or to beat Utah and usc then lose to weak teams? Embarrassing.
Just to back up my comment (which I made well before the TD). You go for two for a host of reasons:
1. You were gifted a 2nd life with the 60yd FG…
2. Defense is awful and even more winded than usual (altitude!).
3. On the road.
4. Both teams have to go for 2 next time anyway, so front run that…
5. Crowd was into it…12th man. Refs were going to start wanting to go home…
There are more reasons, but those are obvious.
Run Colletto and take your chances. That was your best play to win that particular game. If the coach is going off a play-sheet and has no feel for that, then he has to go. Will cost you too many games. Smith built up recruiting and got us close, and now someone good but mature has to take over.
You would have roasted the shit out of him had he gone for 2. Plus they get a chance as well. Say your second offense on field I would agree. Players look bad, defense absolute 100% players coaches scheme look horrible
I agree with most of what you have to say but you seem very reactionary. Smith is making strides and developing culture. His gambles although not always wise will pay off with more talented teams in the future. My biggest problem with this game is passing the ball too much. Nolan isn’t great but we all know that why doesn’t Lindgren?
We pass it too much but a hard disagree on games on our own 40 starting to pay off and that ever being a wise strategy for OSU. Noone is going to convert a higher percentage of those than Colletto, yet Smith and Lindgren are reluctant to even use him on 4th and 2 when in oppostions side of the field. They use him about 85% of the time when is 4th and 1 or less than a yard and a half. He runs for 3-5 yards on 70% of his runs yet they only trust it for 1.5 yards at most for some reason.
I could have lived with Colleto on 4th and 2 from the 41, even if I don’t think it was needed or smart. But running him is twice the odds of success on 4th and 2 of any other play I have seen all season. What we called was 35% odds at best and I think his odds there would have been 65% atleast. Had we used him on the 2 point conversion I think odds were about 55-58% he makes it from 3 out in that situation. Only reason to extend to 2nd OT is if you think you have a strong chance to make a 3rd OT where he would have been our advantage. Odds of getting to 3rd OT though weren’t as good as Colleto winning it in the 1st. You give it to him and give him the chance to be hero. More likely than not he’ll find a way into the endzone.
I’m not impressed with Oregon, Stanford, or ASU, so there’s still a good chance to make a bowl. Stanford probably the best shot. Even if they make one, the entire picture is clouded for me because of Smith. Can’t stand handicap coaches. One positive about GA was he wasn’t awful in this area.
The one time I thought Smith would gamble and he doesn’t. I would have probably bitched if he went for two and didn’t convert, but the way this game went, it may have been the best chance to escape. My 14-year-old son was screaming go for two and end this thing!
Beat USC, WA and Utah and lose to WSU, Cal and Colorado? Go figure….next up losses to Stanford, ASU and the Sucks! Smith costs his team another win as the game should have never gone to OT. I’m tired of Smith’s and his staff’s stupidity. I’m pulling my annual $10.00 donation to the beaver football program as not enough bang for the buck!
Disagree. Defense held them to 13 in 1st half, despite the offense showing no signs of life.
Then the offense gifted Colorado a short field early in the 2nd half with that idiotic 4th down play in our own territory.
Defense wasnt great by any means, but they did a good enough job to win this and the offensive coaches did not.
CU almost had 400 yards of offense. The P-12 announcers were babbling about the Beavs improved run defense, the stats are showing 155 yards rushing for Broussard.
Also how the hell did the D give up 3rd and 15 on Colorado’s TD to take the lead with 2 1/2 mins to go? Our next two recruiting classes and our transfers should be 50% D Line.
Since this team isn’t a road team, do we even want to go to a bowl game we will most likely lose because this team is inept with playing on the road minus USC.
Smith’s too much of a liability. I doubt we win another game this season with him at the helm. We will play down to Stanford next week.
Never said this before tonight but Smith needs to fire Tibs ASAP, and if he doesn’t do it tomorrow, Barnes needs to fire Smith and make Michalczik the interim.
On that 3rd and 15, I would have played picket fence zone defending the goal line and blitzed the fastest linebacker from the outside. It was too easy for the QB to read the man to man.
I’m done with Tibesar as D Coordinator. Bend don’t break isn’t a scheme that wins championships. We need to go back to a 4-3 and get away from the keep everything in front of you DB play. That defense is fine if you have breaking speed to make a play, this team doesn’t have recovery breaking speed to make the play. Also, Jones got burned on a double move early in the game. So that’s lack of experience and Colorado knowing that and taking advantage.
Hasn’t the lack of speed at linebacker become more and more of a liability with teams that spread the field? I guess in 2019 Hamilcar was the speed that offset the other linebackers. Is McCartan fast? I know he’s probably out for the season. They need to recruit for it ASAP.
LB speed coverage wise has been a problem for about 9+ years. With that said, DB is the issue. Corner blitzes used to be used in Oregon State defenses under Banker. Not saying Banker would be better, but Banker did have us as LB U for quite a few years at one point.
Usman please beat Covington to at least salvage the night for me. Sucks win and Smith loses the game for the beavers to I’ll settle for a KO of CC. Put him to sleep for good…..
Post game thoughts:
Coaching staff should be reprimanded and publicly challenged for this debacle of the last 2 weeks. I think the entire program thought they were just going to show up and get 2 wins.
This must be quite a shock for them all now. They may still luck out if Stanford starting qb is out, but more likely the young guy is mobile and will be setting Stanford records for pass completions and rushing yards etc.
Tibs can get off the bus and drive about 40 hours east and never come back, take Lindgren with him.
Baylor isn’t getting as many chances as earlier and it is showing in the results for the team and him. He doesn’t look like he is enjoying it right now. He had a nice 1st down run, came out and didn’t get back on the field for a possession in the 2nd half. Not a good look for the offense. Lowe is doing great but not it can’t be at the expense of Baylor’s touches.
Beason should not be back on the field.
Where is Gould? WHere is Lindsay? QUick outs to Harrison are gold, but only once a game ?
Defensive backs are atrocious and Grant should be off the field, horrible tackler and embarrassingly soft against the run.
Spieghts played like he was hoping not to get hurt rather than a physical beast like last year.
Dline gets zero push on pass plays, blitzers don’r come close to qb ever and whiff once he scrambles.
Lindgren only ran 1 fly sweep but to a tight end on a reverse. Horrendous play calling on anyu creativity in the run game.
It looked like Colorado had some tells, or reads on where Baylor was going, or their coaches need to play the lottery tonight because they were guessing correct each time.
JS cannot continue to give bad teams short field opportunities. Should have gone for 2 of course as well.
Nolan isn’t a D1 qb, he is missing guys wide open, and refuses to hit the check-down. Frustrating qb play makes everything much more difficult. Nolan cannot be the starter next year. I sort of hope he isn’t the starter for the rest of this year…
I can’t honestly think of a negative play from Gould this season and at least 7 or 8 negative plays/drops from Beason. Obviously the coach has an issue with him. Would not be surprised if Gould hit the transfer portal. He was a spark in the game tonight. AGAIN. Would love to hear a question from Daschel on why doesn’t get snaps.
Not to read too much into it, but doesn’t it seem like Beason has bad body language this season? Almost like he expected to be a star and he’s actually regressed.
I think I’m the one you were referring to, and I completely agree. My comment was just that Champ and Gould are a similar style of player, so it’s more a direct substitution. And my comment also included KR where Champ is worthless (and Gould could give a spark).
Beason has been easily our worst WR this year, and maddeningly he still is getting tons of snaps – 2nd on the team behind Bradford. Champ is just very limited in size and athleticism, BUT he’s reliable, has good hands, and might have better chemistry with Luton then anyone else on the team. He’s made some plays the last two weeks. That being said, if we’re going to play a 5’5″ dude, WHY are we lining him up outside?? Makes no sense.
Bradford, Gould, Harrison, Lindsay, Champ would be my top 5 in that order. Think I’d like Champ best as a 3rd down specialist.
Whatever passing game plan Lindgren comes up with is fucked. No one is getting any significant separation, besides Gould or Fleming on a drag route. It’s too predictable.
Just do what Wazzu did under Leach and make the mesh wheel combo the base play. We have the speed guys (Gould and Flemings) to run the mesh, Musgrave to run the go, and Harrison or Lindsay to run the post.
It’s all in Beason’s head right now. He was a great player for us last year, but he needs his snaps reduced significantly until he can reliably catch the ball.
Yeah, even on that first long pass play, which I’m sure was designed to fool Colorado, there was no separation. P-12 teams have been very disciplined in the secondary against the wide receivers. I don’t know why one wouldn’t start out the game with a couple of Baylor stretch plays and go from there. College games are long, there’s plenty of time to call a long pass play. I also noticed on some third and longs, Nolan stared down just one receiver and that receiver did not get separation, either that’s on Nolan or not great play calling.
Regarding the defense. Is this the second straight game with zero sacks and zero turnovers? I’m not sure about the sacks, but it seems like it. Sad commentary.
It’s not even worth my time typing up a game analysis and point out all the brain dead mistakes. Why should I care so much when clearly this team and coaching staff doesn’t care about winning right now.
Smith is now 0-4 with a chance to clinch bowl eligibility. The way things are going, he could be 0-7 in that department in 3 weeks.
My question is, what happens if this team actually does finish 5-7? The question is what will the university do? Not what do we as fans want, but what will they do? It almost feels like you can’t fire Smith, right? It’s possible that a move like that would make the wrong people upset (boosters, alumni, former players) whereas moves away from Riley and GA were almost unanimously accepted by most people.
I’ve seen this sentiment echoed on Twitter tonight, but it’s hard to imagine I will give this program any more of my money for the time being. Not when Tibesar is on the payroll. It doesn’t matter how this season ends, he needs to be fired. No questions asked. If Smith doesn’t have the stones to do it, Barnes should.
If this same defensive effort is displayed the next three weeks and he keeps a job, I will not attend a game until he is fired or shows he wants to be a competent D1 assistant coach. I will contact Scott Barnes or whoever I need to to tell them this as well. I’ve been to many games with teams a lot less talented than this, but I am drawing the line here.
I hope to see this program have a spine and do the right thing and fire Tibs.
Our only chance at a bowl is winning next week, in case that wasn’t obvious. But at this point, I’m fine with losing out if it means something gets changed in leadership.
I feel like Smith has done a good job rebuilding, getting better players, and starting to develop expectations of Bowl games which is impressive considering where Andersen left it. I give him more latitude.
I also think we caught a tough break with Gebbia getting hurt. He would make a lot of those throws that Nolan misses which would make the running game even more lethal.
But the defense needs to change. If we can’t get pressure on the QB with D Line then we need to blitz more. Roberts and Speights aren’t good in coverage anyway so send them after the QB. Both Cal and Colorado were struggling to get to 20 points most games. They have looked all world against us. Scheme needs to change or Tibs needs to go.
Didn’t Colorado fire their o-line coach a couple of weeks ago? Look at the improvement. If I remember correctly Sitake at BYU fired his d-coordinator midseason a few years back and it pretty much saved his job. When the results are not really improving with this big of a sample size something needs to happen. Remember pussy Riley wouldn’t get rid of Banker at OSU but when things got real for him at Nebraska he finally pulled the trigger (over the phone).
They won’t change the defense near end of the season. You make those big schematic changes after the season is over. Tibesar should change his defensive scheme for next year and if he says no, then he needs to go. I don’t blame position coaches because the players aren’t playing a pin your ears back defense. That’s not a Tibs defensive scheme.
Yeah, but you could fire Timmy tomorrow, make Bray the DC, and send a signal that an inability to learn, adapt, and improve are unacceptable. Bray wouldn’t change the scheme, but he could at least NOT put LBs on WRs so often, blitz, and make some line up changes. Time for Grant to sit; he’s getting by on that “best player who started out as a walk on” false narrative. Bray becomes DC tomorrow night, lets team know that players who want to start have to tackle.
Maybe OSU loses some dead money on Timid Timmy, but if the HC and AD don’t show they are serious about winning, then that Reser expansion is going to be pretty empty for this poor product. You can’t sell those expensive seats with this kind of product.
With OSU up by 4, and CU facing 3rd and 15, it was Timmy Time, and CU gets a 16 yard TD.
There is no good reason or probability that keeping Timmy is the best answer for the remainder of this season, or for next year and beyond. None.
UTSA has a solid staff. If Smith wants to keep playing Russian roulette on his own 40 then he needs to realize there are options for OSU. We either win next week or Smith likely will be 0-7 with a chance to clinch a bowl spot. UTSA up 30-9 at half. Will be watching their defense in 2nd half to see if the defensive scheme is much more to my liking. Their team looks to be a legit Top 20 team at this point and have to admire how they play up to get in the national polls and rankings. Hiring away their D coordinator is something OSU should be capable of.
The state of Texas is rich with HS talent, especially on the defensive side of the ball.
I really hope someone poaches Smith this off-season and we retain Michalczik to be head coach. He is the run game coordinator and OL coach, which has been our most successful part of the team. Why wouldn’t we give him a shot? We don’t need a flashy hire to be a consistent 8-win team.
So there could be some bitter irony here. A shitty ’18 Beaver team was Colorado’s easiest chance for bowl eligibility, but Legend Luton led that second-half comeback, and the Buffs never recovered or won another game to finish 5-7. Let’s hope the Beavs take care of business against Stanford.
I really enjoyed the USC and Utah games after the past several years. I was 5 years old the last time Beavers won at USC. I also really enjoyed all the positive comments on this site, like we actually had a good team. Don’t know if they make it to a bowl this year as everyone has figured out our “identity” and made us lose it. Kind of think the OC and DC are sinking the ship and if JS pulls a Riley and supports his guys to the end, he goes down with them. Sometimes it seems that the OC/DC are watching a different game.
OC was certainly planning a different game. Starting the game with 3 passes is inexcusable with this team and the running attack, not just Baylor either.
I think the staff is plagued by 3 elements stemming from the first year of JS:
1) Loser mentality regarding strategy- assuming Colorado would sell out to stop the run, so never try to establish the run
2) Gambler mentality at the wrong time- JS is trying to be aggressive like Chris Peterson but he gambles at the worst times and with very bad consequences when it goes awry
3)Defensive scheme designed to bend not break seemed to originally be installed due to the lack of talent, perhaps there is still a lack of talent, but then the coaches are culpable for not being able to recruit the right type of player for the schemes
I think what disappoints me the most as this year continues is the resistance to embracing this team’s obvious strengths. Why is the staff blinded that this team has all of the tools offensively to be a ball control, smash mouth Stanford-like version of OSU football. Yet they continue to force Nolan into passing downfield or pocket passer out of the gate. Nolan has shown his best skills to be a designed runner, passing rolling out but not a drop back pocket passer. His rating is high but he doesn’t pass the eyeball test watching him game after game, unfortunately.
The team has regressed badly, JS and staff have regressed even worse because they can’t gameplan for the 2 worst conference teams on the schedule properly. Unbelievable.
This is one of those night when I wish I had never become a Beaver fan. It is maddening to be a Beaver fan.
Gould’s usage is mystifying. Whenever he’s on the field he’s making a huge or clutch play. Unfortunately he plays like 2 snaps a game. How is he not a full time starter?
Beason has been the worst WR on the team hands-down and yet he’s still seeing the 2nd most snaps behind Bradford. Doesn’t make any sense.
Champ is small and athletically limited but great hands, high football IQ, and seems to have the best chemistry with Nolan of anyone on the team. Seems like we’re playing him in weird formations (why is a 5’5″ dude ever lining up outside??) but he should probably have a role – at least on 3rd down. Need him off KR though. Total dud there.
Harrison and Lindsay are both up and down with big plays and then drops. Bradford is our clear #1 (except for possibly Gould?), so hope he’s OK.
We had to attend a wedding, dinner reception the whole deal this afternoon/evening. Seriously who in the hell gets married during football season?
I set the DVR expecting to cruise though a relaxing route, per my 41-14 prediction this morning. I just finished watching what, I believe, had to be one of the worst Beaver performances since the 80’s. I saw the same things you guys did. Reviewed the comments above, so I won’t beat a dead horse. Just don’t get it. Night…Night
PS: I hear we have a good soccer team. Is it the men’s or women’s?
Don’t think this team has 1 more win in them. 2 of the teams we still have on the schedule ran for 300 yards tonight against much better defenses than ours is right now. Sadly, we threw the ball 38 times with a 52% completion rate against the 91st ranked run defense. Something tells me that despite Utah running for 300 yds and 6 touchdowns this offensive scheme will be to throw the ball yet again. They just can’t get out of their own way. The goal should be to win the game so if that means running the ball 100% of the time, then run the damn ball 100% of the time. It’s almost like the game plan offensively is to have a 50/50 split and not to actually exploit weaknesses of the opponent or play to our strengths.
4th down call early in the game and on the wrong side of the field yet again comes to bite the Beavs in the ass. Stupid decision. Personally, I wasn’t totally against the PAT to tie in OT but I’m more surprised as that seemed like the 1 time where it made complete sense to go for it and he doesn’t. Baffling.
Nice to see people finally getting off the Tibs train as it’s been a little lonely the last 3 years I’ve been saying he needs to go. Lol. Not sure anything else needs to be said there. Bad scheme. Bad preparation. Bad adjustments (if making any). Feels like the defensive players are already thinking about Christmas break and have mailed it in. I knew we were in for another stellar performance from the 1st play where the TE juked and sidestepped 3 Beavs on his way to the 20 yd gain. Watching that play I was hearing the Chris Berman “whooop” “whooop” (not sure how to spell that sound he made) as our guys kept flying past the lumbering TE.
I’m also disappointed in the complacency of a lot of the fan base. So many “golly gee what a hard fought game” or “you’re not a real fan if you criticize the team” or “well at least we’re not getting blown out anymore”. I just don’t understand it. Why don’t you want, nay, demand, better from your coaching staff? You spend money on tickets or merchandise. Most of us have spent lots of money on tuition. Or maybe you donate your time or other resources. Regardless, you have skin in the game and the complacency is why we had 28 years of losing records and on the verge of 9 years with no bowl games.
My response to the “at least were not getting blown out anymore” comment is that very soon they will be if they’re complacent with losing games like this. These are games where players lose faith in their coaches.
You don’t have to look further back than 2017 to see OSU completely imploding. Tibs is just as bad as Clune was then.
Thank you Usman for kicking Colby Covington’s a$$. It took some of the sting out of the beavs loss at Colorado to an interior opponent. Right now I think the beavers are staring at potential 5 game losing string and another losing season…This year has just regressed back to its old losing ways. If they can turn it around the last two of three, great but I don’t see that happening. Between the horrible defense and the pathetic play calling and coaching, that’s tough for any team to overcome. If Smith isn’t careful, he’s going to gamble away his HC job as a beaver. I’ve been a strong supporter of his from the get-go but at some point you have to take a long hard look in the mirror and ask yourself, “what the Fuck was that?” I’ve reached that point as a fan and supporter of Smith but have concluded that he might not be as smart of a coach as I originally thought. His bad coaching decisions have cost the beavers at least two games this season, WSU and CO. The beavers can’t continue to give games away and expect to win..At a minimum, Smith needs to cut bait on Tibesar and the rest of the defensive coordinators and rebuild yet again. On offense, beavers need much better QB play and that starts with better evaluation of QB position. This team continues to disappoint this year and the coaches too. We must be the worst 5-4 team in the country especially on defense. Stanford and ASU certain look beatable and are at Resers but unless Smith and his staff get things turned around, I wouldn’t expect wins. I hope I’m wrong but my eyeballs tell me otherwise. Well, at least the WBB team showed some promise earlier against western Washington.
Disappointing lose but not surprised. The talent especially on d and qb is not there. Nolan is ok but not great. He’s not progressing like I’d expect. Tibs takes a lot of heat but I’m not convinced there’s a lot of d coordinators that could do better with the lack of talent especially in the trenches. To complicate matters, JS has consistently made critical mistakes that have hurt his teams chances. Against Purdue, WSU, Colorado his poor decisions may have cost us. And I 100% think we should have gone for 2 in first OT. Colorado had to be relieved to see our extra point team. CU had burned their TO and I immediately thought that JS would have said to Lingren, “after we score, we’re going for 2. Have your best play ready to go.” Without a TO available, CU would have been screwed
People seem to be making excuses that we’re not that good, etc…well the entire league is not that good, and we should be 8-1. Think about that. With boring “conservative” coaching, we’d very likely be 8-1. Sure, we can’t know definitely that punts and properly management of 4ths would have resulted in wins, but looking at the games in retrospect, very likely. I don’t buy we don’t have the talent. We don’t have the coaching talent. The one thing Smith has done very well is bring in legit 3-star talent, so I disagree we don’t have the talent. The HC is losing the games with reckless calls. I saw this first at Nevada in 2018 and commented on it that game as something to watch because the management was so extraordinarily stupid. Sure enough that pattern continued, and I’d say last night it got even worse, because Smith now doesn’t go for two when it IS the correct move. It’s almost like he realized his stupid decision earlier in the game and was trying to self-correct there. That’s a HC way too much in his own head. Need a HC with “feel”…hard to explain what that is, but you know it when you see it, and Smith doesn’t have it.
First! Go beavs!
Run the ball and then run some more! I guess the Beavs are 2nd in the nation in line yards. They should be running it as much as a triple option team. Nolan should throw about 15 times after they have established the run. If landman is out it should be a blowout.
42-21 Beavs!
For shit’s sake, it looks like Arizona is going to beat “Cal Light”. Up 10-3 with a minute and a half left with the ball. Timing is everything in life! Luck O’ The Beavs.
Unleash the Baylor Beast!
Hopefully they don’t put that astroglide on the field that only affects Baylor like last weekend.
Follow up to NB’s monkey story. This is gold:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Horns247/status/1457109437160755203
If we win and Purdue wins…does that make us look better?
Not with Cal losing to UA even missing some players.
24 isn’t some including starting and backup QB.
Not sure it’ll make the Beavs look that much better but it’ll make this old blind squirrel look like 6/6 in the pick’em!
Wow, missing some players or not, Cal losing to UA 10-3 after nearly hanging 40 on the Beavs last week isn’t a good look for the Beavs. Zona only gives up 30 total rushing yards to the Beavs like 280. Good work Tibs!
There’s one way Tibesar can turn things around…HAND JIVE! – Mark Banker
Too busy sniffing their own farts after beating mighty beavs.
Wilner blames it on the state and the city of Berkely; sounds like he has a bassis.
Dude their starting QB and backup were out along with 22 other players. There isn’t many teams that can overcome that. Its like playing your scout team.
Hey, that sounds alot like the current Beavs team, with Nolan coming into the season as QB3 and a ton of players out with season ending injuries.
Nolan had starting experience and was neck and neck with Noyer apparently. Not too many players are out with injuries. Sure as shit not 24.
Nolan was still #3
But true, we’re only down about 12 players instead of 22
Not saying they should’ve won but they played one of the worst teams in the country and a team that hasn’t won in the Pac for almost 2 years. Getting more than 30 yds rushing even missing some players is more than doable. Not like they played Bama.
Should be able to run their base offense and defense right at them and win by 2 scores while in control of the game for the duration. If it turns into a defensive struggle where they somehow abandon the run or a shootout and they’re getting torched and exposed (again) in the secondary they earn 100 more #FireTibs points.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJFNRaNIeZM
Shenault back. Can we contain him? Can we get pressure on the QB? Can we be better than 50% on 3rd down? Will our coaches see success in the run game then decide that it’s working too well and start throwing deep routes only? How many fake punts or 4th downs will we go for? So many questions!
CU gets 20 yards first play. Holy crap.
We lost.
This again? Lol
For real!
Tibet’s new plan: They can’t dominate 3rd down if we don’t let them get to third down.
Easier on the fans really
Our defense making the TE look like Mike Alstot out there.
Man, the defense can’t stop crap.
Oh great, another third down…what do you know, we got a stop. Lol
Woohoo! Stopped a 3rd down! Drink!
If that’s the game you’ll be sober after 50 quarters.
Trying to lose weight!
3rd down stop!
Progress!
Let’s go Usman. Kick the crap out of CC!
Anyone have a stream link? Fubo free trial hack has been cut off now that P12 is only on some extra add-on package thing.
Check my post above
Just got home from lady beavs as WW. 30 point win but WW not a bad team…jalena metrovic is going toake big contributions this year.
Timmy’s Tots making the country’s worst offense look like world-beaters
Guys I promise. Colorado is bad. Real bad.
But we’re not good. So….
We’re badder.. Lol
I will never understand why we insist on dropping 8 and only rushing 3 on 3rd and long. We get absolutely no pressure and then they find the soft spots in the zone. And because we are below average on defense, those soft spots always open up. I don’t understand the thinking of continuing to play that way. It’s not like we’re shutting down the pass or anything.
It’s an NFL move but their 3 rushers are a lot better
I agree but there was pressure there but the guys was still open with 8 in coverage.
Unbelievable….too many players on the field and look like crap again.
And 2 passes to start and Nolan wasn’t even close on the deep ball. Stupid.
Jim Wilson was criticizing the missed tackling on the first play; Austin and some other guy. And then the dumb ass long pass on our first play of offense, that wasn’t within 10 yards of the receiver notwithstanding the idiocy of calling a long pass; followed by too many men the huddle. What a shit show.
Is Riley coaching us again. Deep ball throw first play. Followed by penalty.
Offenses new plan: They can’t stop the run if we don’t run.
Keeps the averages nice
Sweatybeaver gunning for the COTT early.
Wow. Good thing we don’t like to run the ball. Looks like we’re trying to outsmart ourselves again. Is there something in their contracts where they get a bonus for having less than 6 wins?
Mob NIL deal? Fix is in?
We might end up winning this game but it seems this coaching staff has a hard time getting the team ready for the start of the game.
This Jekyll and Hyde thing is bizarre.
Seriously. Unbelievable. Run the f$!&&@!g ball!
Jfc. Run the ball.
Sounds like it’s going to be a long afternoon, even if Beavers win. Wrong play calling, executing poorly this late in the season against a team this bad?
At this rate it doesn’t look like anyone will poach Lindgren’s dumbass.
Playing chess when others are playing checkers.
He can lose tick tack toe
Announcers said at start the Beavs had bad practices before Cal and it carried over to game. But supposedly a good this week. We’re they talking about the kick off squad?
If they don’t come put running the ball next possession Tibs might not be the only one that needs to be fired. Is Langsdorf in the box with lindgren?
Shocker…another third down conversion…..
Damn, loses to Cal and da Buffs. We don’t deserve a bowl.
I still think the vibe of the season changed on that fake punt vs WSU.
Was trying to warn you guys, their QB Lewis throws a nice ball. Add in his mobility and he’s exactly the type of QB OSU has no clue how to defend.
Hey, I listened, and expected him to victimize the Beavers.
That was sneaky
I liked that play.
I blame Lindgren for giving them momentum with shit playcalling.
Who wanted Jones in?
He got tricked a little bit on that one
did y’all see number 3 just standing there on a supposed blitz?
Yeah grants blitz was enemic
Ya he talks all this game and then puts out a shit performance. Talk about smelling your own farts.
Fire them all.
Well Fuck me to tears….just when you think we can’t get much worse, we prove that we can get worser!
A QB that can throw a deep ball. That’s cool.
There’s a lot of fart sniffin’ and not much football playin’ goin’ on.
It isnt unprecedented to fire a coordinator at halftime.
Maybe give Bray a test drive for a couple games?
Our defensive line is so weak. Why do we not blitz? Do we have a sack this year?
We did if you can call what Grant did a blitz.
watch Champ run it out and fumble now
I’ll just watch Baylor get 9 yards a run.
We can tin the ball? Who freaking knew except our own coaching staff.
We can run……
1st and ten; run gets 9 yards. next play. first down. coaching staffs outsmart themselves with astonishing regularity, especially in Corvallis
Nolan is much more accurate on the roll out.
Some QBs are just better with death chasing them while they clench their butthole. Russel Wilson factor.
Got a third and long! Drink!
Smith will start his press conference talking about the slow start, the penalties, the missed assignments. Then he will talk about how they really need to look at those things and make some adjustments next week. I can’t wait.
Just gotta clean some stuff up
Just pass every down, who gives a shit at this point. We get zero help from the defense. We might as well make this a complete cluster fuck instead of half of one.
no touch on the long ball; just like Luton
Ru fucking kidding me.. Hit the fucking receiver .
Nolan is shit then great.
Then shit again. Then great
Most inconsistent QB ever.
Q runs like Alfred Hitchcock.
Watching this team play I wonder how the hell they have won 5 games.
Nice run bayloooorrr
Why Lowe at RB on that play? Use Baylor and let him run some fools over.
Well gameplan wise they usually pass when he’s in. But the gameplan was stupid so
Take the points.
They took points alright.
Should’ve hurried to the line and sneaked it on 4th.
You gotta go here. I don’t like going for it around midfield but this is a good decision. Now execute.
Also with how D is playing you need TDs
Jack gives zero fucks
That’s not what milfs say.
So that’s where the jackhammer nickname came from
Crazy legs Colletto!
Haha there’s the Crazy Legs!
We should have thrown a post on that 4th down play…lol
The Colleto Package always delivers
Nice move by Jackhammer at about the 5, probably his longest run this season.
I love that he didn’t even go down in the end zone. Guy had gone from a dorky expendable QB to a monster
I could be a great OC with the Beavs. Run run run run run!
D gave up 144 yards in first quarter to freaking Colorado. That’s a fireable offense.
And dogs just turn an interception into 7 pts. Ducks down early…
Hmmm…. I’m not a highly paid defensive coordinator… but, maybe we shouldn’t have linebackers covering WRs all the time.
Who and the crap coaches the secondary? Anyone? These guys suck so bad it makes me want to root for the ducks.
Stopped a third down! Drink!
a third down stop?!
It shows how bad our defense is when you are happy to just give up a fg attempt
Also comforting to see how hapless Colorado is after a missed fg. Just run the ball and stop fooling around with Nolan passing for a while. Baylor outside, Baylor inside, Gould fly sweep please.
Colorado’s FG kicker might be osu’s best defender.
They actually blitzed to apply pressure on third down. A Christmas miracle.
They need to figure out a bribe or something for players to get sacks. Its like they’re just going through yhe motions. I was watching a UCLA game and they come hard on the blitzes.
RUN THE FOOTBALL!
caught a break forcing two field goals, and missing one. gotta get the lead now.
Defensive holding! Yay!
Holding. Boooo
Okay this is out shot to take over the game. Do it.
Quit fucking passing until the run is stopped.
who is Brewer playing in place of?
kipper?
Musgrave caught it! Yay!
Ma boy!
What do you know….a completed pass.
Well, if you were running instead of passing….
Musgrave on an end around. No
Yeah and he looked gassed after catching the ball on the play before. Dumb dumb dumb.
Ughhhh
Handoff to Musgrave? Guess we havent given up on overthinking things. What a joke
I’m so sick of Nolan and passing the ball. Lindgren is fucking this game up. All they need to do is run the ball up the middle everytime.
We’ll just dump the game on Tibs wide shoulders.
I’m just going to come out and say it. Our coaching staff is fucked up!!!!
Well that was our shot to flip the game.
No clue why we’re throwing so much…oh yeah, because Smith was a QB…
I wasn’t aware Smith is calling plays.
such awful play calling for OSU.
2nd chance to get the lead before half.
Run the fucking ball. That is all.
Come out and run it 3 straight times for fucks sake. Oh forgot Lindgren is going to outsmart them.
Looks like Jimmy Lake has nearly lost his team, no discipline against the Ducks and Lake is losing his mind on the sidelines…
Penalties!!!!!
it’s harder to hold on running plays
Nolan is dog shit if we’re not running it.
Defense hasnt been great, but they’ve at least bailed out the offense for their shitty play today.
Saluni looks good though
third down Lowe!
What do you know even when we need 18 and run it they get it.
Why is this reviewed? He was like 2 yards past lol
Haha, UW gets a safety on Oregon after a great punt that was downed at the 6″ line
That’s going to be overturned.
Wow. His forward progress looked out.
They just had another punt down at the 1.
I wish we would quickly run a play on these close calls. Seems like we prefer to wait and give them plenty of time to decide to review further. And then follow that with a pass into double coverage.
That review was ridiculous. I haven’t seen them review something like that in awhile.
Wtf are we doing.
Stop fucking passing….
Quit fucking passing the ball for fucks sake!
Incomplete pass, penalty, run for ten yards,….Incomplete pass, penalty, run for eighteen….
Did we forget we have Baylor on the team?
Stop fucking passing and run the ball.
Jesus the dump off was open for 6 seconds
Alright, I’m done with Nolan. Bring in Noyer and give him a shot.
Just put in Vidlak. Start the ab battle now
That felt like another patented Nolan fumble before halftime. Somehow he hung onto it. Progress!
We’re on the same page! Nolan is hot garbage and this team can’t be consistent with him and has a low ceiling.
I’ll go in the booth and call only run plays and and we’ll win by 20. Nolan sucks and never looks at his crackdown. Wide open Lowe. Put in Noyer and run the ball.
I’m just going to come out and say it. Our coaching staff is really fucked up!!!!
Why are the Beavers so stupid?
Cause they hate us.
Beavs just might end up tied for 5th in the north when all is said and done. What a come down.
I’m starting to think we suck at football cause we beat ourselves on purpose
Blitz this cocksucker!
How long tell baseball?
We’re a men’s soccer school.
3rd and 26. Oh no
Wright with head turned being pushed down and he gets the penalty.
you have to go back to the late Riley era for as frustrating a half of football as this one.
Pretty sure Anderson was worse lol
3rd and 26!!!!!!! We did it!!!
Smith actually smart on that one.
Beavs aren’t winning this game on Nolan’s arm.
The question is why are they trying to?
Freaking finally. Screen to Lowe. Then Beason drops an easy one, come on man
He needs to pull those bumpers out of his gloves
Beason, with a drop? go figure
Beason with his 12th drop of the year
Champ almost just died for that 1st.
Bring in Noyer for the 2nd half. He’s not as bad as he was in the Purdue game and he is probably motivated for this game. He looked good with Colorado last year. Just run the ball with a few occasional PA passes.
Agreed as Nolan just isn’t getting it done although lindgren is screwing up the play calling. The beavers must be the worst 5-3 team in the nation.
Golden Toe Hayes. Noice!
it’s official. Hayes is a good kicker. maybe Serna level.
We’re pretty lucky to be down 3.
Fucking awful!!! Why do we watch this shit!???!?!
Beavs are averaging 5.4 yards per rush. Why do the coaches move away from team strengths. That is what I loved about David Shaws good Stanford teams. He would run the same play over and over until it got stopped. We are trying to be too cute by half. Run the dang ball!!!!!!
Smith wasn’t a RB…
I’m just going to say it, our coaching staff is really bad!!!
Might be the worst half of football I’ve seen in a long time. Just plain bad everything. Top to bottom. So lucky to be down 3, but lucky as can be that Colorado is so bad this season.
Can you fire a d coordinator at half?
Is there something special about the CU defense, that Lindgren can’t call a fly sweep? This game has been a WTF from the Beav’s first series on offense.
He called one with musgrave! What you talking about lol
I call that a “what the fuck” tight-end double reverse!
Damn – what the F is happening to these guys?
Interestingly, all of our Pac 12 wins have been with 19 or less pass attempts. Losses have all been over 20 attempts. We currently are at 15. Baylor and Lowe both over 5 yd averages. Well so are colletto and Nolan for that matter. This is the 91st run defense in the country. Have no idea why we are making this so hard. Not sure how we got to 5 wins playing like we have recently. The team from the last 2 weeks might only win vs Idaho.
That is interesting. I stole it on Twitter.
Has Fenwick been given a carry? I’m sure he’s pleased about zero snaps.
Nope, Musgrave has taken his run snaps. Lol
You tend to pass more when youre playing catchup. Could be a symptom of losing
Anybody getting worried Baylor might enter the portal and go run for a better coached team and a shot at a real bowl game?
Seeing his OC go away from the team’s strength @ WSU when it counted, and against one of the worst rush defenses in the conference, may make him consider other opportunities.
No not at all. 7th best rushing team in the nation.
First game I’ve seen with RGIII on the comentary. He’s pretty good. Too bad the Beavs will never get a game on ABC
I’ll take a 3 and out with runs on first and second.
Drink! Defense played a series
Best defensive stand in two weeks.
Baylor is great. Gets hit 3 yards deep and somehow gains 3
Nolan with a check down after 4 seconds. Yay!!
Balls I got fooled. I thought Lowe was going
No!!!!!!
Ugghhhhhh
That’s a terrible gamble there. Awful. Coaches and team deserve to lose this.
These 4th down calls are flat out ridiculous.
At some point the analytics will prove to Smith these are terrible 4th down play calls. We have plenty of stats from our own team this year to prove it
Fucking stupid gabmling again. Even ifnit had worked it was idiotic
Yep. Smith should be fired. He’s good but gets in his own way too much. Puts a cap on him, so he has to go.
Well, if they score on this short field, game over. Would have never gone for that at this point in the game. This is just awful. Beavers might not win another game all season.
I have no idea WTF Smith was thinking. Complete garbage. Utterly awful decision making.
This^^^
Why do Rodents suck at football?
I can’t take two of these in one day…
Dont mind the going for it on fourth but hate the call. Nolan is bad Nolan today and completely unreliable. Not that it was his fault on that 1. Lindgren calling a stinker.
Too much time left to be going for it.
No kidding
I’m just going to say it. This coaching staff is getting worse as the season goes on.
I think I’ll watch UFC 268 instead of this bs.
And of course a fucking pass and not a run. Canzano these guys deserve a raise. Just what is he smoking?
I’m rooting for Colorado now.
Now the D is getting gashed!
Now the D will give up as they did vs WSU after the degenerate fake punt gamble.
Roberts just baarely fast enough to catch the receiver
Thx to Smith, lindgren and the rest of this staff, the beavers are dead in the water.
Daschle better hold Smiths feet to the fire at the presser. That was an egregious call to mow at that pony in the game. I can’t do this anymore.
The more significant question is why the lack of runs called.
Doesn’t matter, answer will be “did what we thought would give us the best chance to win”…….no follow up question will be takenl.
I just remembered bowl eligibility is on the line….is that why this staff is puckering these last two games?
tisebar should be fired this week, Bray to serve as Acting. there’s a stadium renovation on the way, and you’re not going to sell those premimum lodge seass with these kind of shit shows. The AD needs to be willing to push Smith, hold people accountable and demonstrate there are expectations for improvement.
Hell, Smith ought to be intervening on Tisebar’s poor gameplanning (LBs on WRs again?) and Lindgren throwing too much. Don’t just sit there and be passive. Take action.
This is a pathetic showing, and I’m just looking at the boxscore and comments here.
So easy to predict the D giving up…could be a blowout after that 4th call.
Bottom line the D coordinator is really bad. Smith I think is Riley and would never fire him. So bad. He cannot adjust at all. Obviously the whole league figured it out yet same stuff every game.
Second Nolan is not good. I was very fooled.
Hahahaha! This team is fucking laughable. They do not deserve a bowl game and I hope they don’t get one so some changes can be made.
Puts them in a major hole vs punting away. Dumb!
And that’s the ballgame folks. Hope your happy Jonathon. Your fourth down gambles cost is yet another potential win. Man I am mad.
Smith and Lindgren are trying to cool down Tibesar’s hot seat this week by taking the heat for themselves.
I nominate NB for COTT with his “taking the heat” take
Why don’t they blitz a young qb? I’m really tired of Nolan seeing blitzes and lots of pressure but Beavs rarely get to the qb anymore.
I won’t say game over, but I am beginning to wonder what is going on with JS and his staff. It looked loike the D just quit on the coach after that 4th down fail.
I need to dig up the 2018 Nevada game. I know in the comments I said Smith cost us the game with awful clutch decisions…think it was a 4th call or messing something up with the FG. Remember making a big deal of it because of how extraordinarily bad it was.
I think he quit trying to move the ball down the field because he had confidence in Choukair’s ability to win it on long field goals
Something about using a timeout during that stretch too. Like we could have called a time out to get a couple extra plays in… I think I remember that correctly.
Yes that sounds exactly right, too.
Seriously, did the mob make an offer they can’t refuse?
The athletic department put the $50m mystery donor’s money on Colorado to cover so we can finish financing Reser.
We were down a field goal and not even over midfield in middle of the third quarter for fucks sake.
Wow that is a terrible throw by Chance.
WTF the announcers are calling out the receiver on that??
Hit him in the hands but a bad pass. Freshman that shouldn’t have been in on that situation.
It hit him in both hands and should have been a catch.
We should fire Tibs.
Out of a cannon.
Into the sun.
This team ain’t gonna beat Stanford playing like this much less ASU and Oregon. Lol. What a collapse.
Down by 10, more of an excuse to throw?
God damn! Lowe playing madden on that run!
Hey look what happens when you run the ball.
Even if they come back and win this game I will not be happy. These coaches disappoint…. Not getting our monies worth.
Even if we win, that Smith call will ruin the night. Just knowing he’s that bad at risk and has this cap…ugh.
It’s almost like he is taking the risk just to take it. I had no problem in the first half down near the goal line but on your side of the field down 3. Just why?
He thinks he’s playing John Madden Football.
If the beavs pull this out, and I don’t think they will, it would still feel like a loss.
Angry you just aged yourself 30 years calling it John Madden football lol. Stop playing that play box Smith!!
Haha. Who didn’t hate punting in Madden???!
Why not? He’s got like 3 more years either way until our pussy fanbase even dares to start coalescing around the idea of whether he’s the right man for the job or not.
Oh yeah, on Twitter people are getting on me saying he’s young and just got the job…lol. He’s in year 4! An eternity in the modern game.
It use to be the talent that held this team back. Now it’s the staff decisions/lack of adjustments from game to game. I’d rather watch a well executing team that loses than a team that just does dumb stuff. They should be way better at this point in the season.
completely agree krol; that’s what I meant up top about this reminding me of the late Riley era. we had talent; team was not well coached. That’s the difference with Anderson–he didn’t have any talent
Really miss Julian
DLine is just getting destroyed
Our defense makes the opposing team’s running backs look like NFL talent. Announcer says offensive line “ just washes the defensive line.”
Drink!
Why are we Passing!!!!!!!!!
It’s higher risk and looks cool
We’re addicts
4th quarter only 14 min left. Better throw the ball. WTF
Are Gould and Irish dead? Why are Musgrave and bolden running sweeps
Don’t do it.
Nooooooo
Here you go for it.
Easy with Jack
Oh now he uses touch
Both teams look eerily similar. Decent running game hamstrung by horrendous passing after run gets momentum. Both coaches look awful!
Yikes, that looked like a separated shoulder.
110% coach
Really confused by the WR snaps this game. Zero Gould, Irish, Tongue and tons of Bolden
Yeah is Gould in the doghouse? Why is Bolden getting the fly sweep?
You knew as soon as Nolan looked at his cheat sheet we were passing
Also, funny how the coaches are playing straight up strengths now that time is running out.
Fuck!
Yeah eat shit!!!
Man Harrison can really shift. Like tackling smoke sometimes.
Ma boy, Harrison!
Let’s go Colorado!
That Harrison play, fly sweep, screen, bootleg, and Baylor are there all day! But, let’s keep passing downfield into low percentage….
I prefer the deep pass to Musgrave. It would be one thing if Nolan could hit a deep pass if they are WIDE open.
It’s like the coaches don’t want to admit the identity of the team….get as many plays as possible to your players in space — this team has like 10 fast as hell scat backs.
….and run the damn ball first and foremost.
Mixed in a couple of blitzes. Nice D.
Milk the clock and sneak out with a win. Doesn’t absolve Smith, though. It’s a win in spite of him.
Yep, if the beavs lose, it’ll be their third game lost due to poor coaching.
Watch the beavers start throwing the ball again..lol
Gould with the punt return atleast
Play God’s football, run out the clock, and bounce out of town.
Alumni need to pay for a Texas Holdem or Rooulette table he can run over and get it out of his system between plays….he absolutely can’t resist. Beavs have left about 5 wins on the table because of him.
Ughhhhhh. I just want to hang the heat duct in my office. Make it easy for once you bastards
The D asked to win the game, huh? Time for 12mg.
Ah 3rd and 15. Our truest nemisis
Let’s go Colorado again!
Time for an INT.
A bit strange to watch a team where the players have a better understanding of their own team identity than the coaches.
You watch Lowe, Gould, Bradford, Harrison and Baylor during this game and they just keep grinding despite JS.
did you see BRoussard just run through our #3?
Grant gets caught on his heels alot
Yeah, we all saw it. Our awful defense is now low on oxygen.
that penalty may have been the lifeline
Surprised they actually.made the call
The penalty helped Colorado bleed the clock, haha
This is going about how you’d expect for Beaver team trying to get to bowl eligibility
Colorado beating Beavs at their own game.
missed on the blitz, again. 3rd down magic
Game over. No way beavs win or now.
Win it now……
Stick Gould on the kickoff return. No Champ please
Just have Gould, Lowe and Irish lateral it around
Oladapo nice tackle, negated on next play by TD pass.
Prepare for 4 deep passes by Nolan to try to win it…ugh
announcer said it all: Colo scored on “3rd and forever”
I hate that I have zero confidence in our offense to do what they need to do.
Anyone really believe in a successful 2 min drill? With these coaches?
Haha…no.
Wright giving wayyyy too much room there. Big chance for him to INT or at least make Colorado pass to the corner of the end zone.
Horrible defense by Wright
Champ does good!
Sometimes I think champ is our only smart player
I’m prepared ofr the sack fumble
Our OL is getting blown up on this drive
Balls
Well, maybe we don’t need a bowl game
Of fucking course
Fire Smith
So Smith does get his 10th loss that’s directly on him.
How? Other than it’s always the coaches fault. So much poor performance. Staying with Nolan?
Bad risk management and personnel
Well, we have to be the worst 5-4 team in the nation. Thx to stupid coaching decisions.
I’d say we’re the best. Should be 8-1
Good. This team needs to loose the rest and think about their stupidity.
I think I’m going to be sick.
Why do we do this to ourselves? I should have gone to a movie.
Beavs gave Baylor the ball one time on that drive. Is he hurt or is it criminally bad coaching?
Fuck this coaching staff. Seriously, I’m having a hard time finding a reason to give a shit with this program.
I’ll go on record….beavs go 5-7 to finish a once promising season.
I HATE BEING A BEAVER FAN!
I don’t want to hear any of the vomit from smiths mouth during the press conference. He put his tenure there back to square one with these last two losses. Is it worse to suck and lose or to beat Utah and usc then lose to weak teams? Embarrassing.
Thank God we don’t have Arizona on the schedule! We’d make them look good too!
Players don’t deserve this piss poor coaching!
Should be 8-1. Cal flat out beat us. Smith cost the Beavs the other 3.
Post-game presser: “We have some things to clean up.”
How fucking embarrassing.
I want to drive to PDX and start kicking coaches in the balls as they get off the plane.
On second thought, the coaches should walk home.
PDX?
The airport.
THAT, WAS INSANE
What….a 60 yd fg!
Holy hell
Agree with the commenter…brilliant calls by Smith there.
Coach Smith just got them into OT
OSU record distance for a FG
Ha Hayes talking to Serna on the sideline right there. That’s pretty cool.
who was it, up above, that said Hayes may be the best kicker of the modern era? Or more to the point, the person who thumbed it down?
Puke and rally!
Holy fucking shit hayes
Cheerleader in concussion protocol next week.
All Beaver fans in concussion protocol next week!
I wonder if Hayes could play defense.
Overtime is not good for Beavs. The defense is so tired.
CU has out ran us tonight. Our defense is folded.
If Beavs score a TD go for two?
Yes.
concur
Run Colletto.
concur again
worst possible combination: a PASS play to BEASON
Wow deep throw on play 1 in ot. Lol
Friendly fire, luck o’ da Beavs.
Absolutely no for two of you score!
Go for two.
No or go?
We need the 6 first
Go
Collett twice if needed
again: Nolan is twice as good rolling out
Colletto time. 2 in a row
Musgrave took a pretty nasty helmet to helmet hit on that last catch. Gonna have a sore neck tomorrow
Targeting against musgrave?
good ball placement by the holder on that one
Go figure…..smith goes for the tie. What a dumbshit!
so true.
mea culpa. I rage quit after the missed field goal.
I have idea how the game got to a second overtime.
Beavs are making it look very difficult to get bowl eligible…
Can tibs just get on stop? Please?
I think offensive struggles are to blame in this one. Although defense wasn’t good.
Stopped watching but caught up. Nice work Hayes
Did Baylor fumble that ball out of the endzone on the earlier play? Maybe I’m high, but it looked like the tip went in.
Out of bounds before the pylon
TWSS
Unbelievable!
Wow.
Smith has risk completely backward. You go for that 2pt win earlier.
Yep, he’s fucking stupid.
Agree. Colletto has been getting monster yards when he runs it. But they don’t like the easy plays.
What does smith say after this one? We ain’t done yet making dumb plays…we can still lose the next 3. Let’s do it boys!!!
Should have gone for two…..
Sports are dumb
COTT
Someone on here said we’ll have no trouble stopping the CU offense cause they’re awful. Someone on here doesn’t know shit.
That was me after being at the duck game and watching them. They are awful. We are worse.
Strange thats yet another freezing cold take but respect for owning the comment. We all suffered enough today.
Someone on here said Nolan would sail his throws in thin air too.
5-7 beavs lose out….
You are a coward!!!
Brutal loss.
The way your D is playing you gotta go for two. If you lose running Colletto so be it.
I’ve been a rah rah Beaver fan my entire life, but I just can’t mentally or emotionally do it anymore guys.
Legitimately worried about not making it to 6 wins this year with this defense of ours and the bipolar play calling.
Wish I was wrong, but this team had beat the optimism out of me.
Agree, both our asses will be right back here next week. Will play Ford right to a close loss but it’s at home.
Just to back up my comment (which I made well before the TD). You go for two for a host of reasons:
1. You were gifted a 2nd life with the 60yd FG…
2. Defense is awful and even more winded than usual (altitude!).
3. On the road.
4. Both teams have to go for 2 next time anyway, so front run that…
5. Crowd was into it…12th man. Refs were going to start wanting to go home…
There are more reasons, but those are obvious.
Run Colletto and take your chances. That was your best play to win that particular game. If the coach is going off a play-sheet and has no feel for that, then he has to go. Will cost you too many games. Smith built up recruiting and got us close, and now someone good but mature has to take over.
Ditto + then you control the outcome. Run Colletto and if he doesn’t score so be it.
Exactly…could live with that. It was the best shot so you take it and live with it.
I would rather lose like that then the way we ended up 10/10 times.
You would have roasted the shit out of him had he gone for 2. Plus they get a chance as well. Say your second offense on field I would agree. Players look bad, defense absolute 100% players coaches scheme look horrible
I wrote well before the TD they should go for 2 and run Colletto…
Yes we talked about it before they even got the ball in OT. You have to end the game there. Have you not seen the defense?
Also fire Tibs
I posted the same. Screw Smith as I’m done with his bullshit calls.
Done with you chicken little! You sound like d*ck fan!
I agree with most of what you have to say but you seem very reactionary. Smith is making strides and developing culture. His gambles although not always wise will pay off with more talented teams in the future. My biggest problem with this game is passing the ball too much. Nolan isn’t great but we all know that why doesn’t Lindgren?
Agreed…. Beavers2021 is roasted and probably a d*ck fan. He scared.
We pass it too much but a hard disagree on games on our own 40 starting to pay off and that ever being a wise strategy for OSU. Noone is going to convert a higher percentage of those than Colletto, yet Smith and Lindgren are reluctant to even use him on 4th and 2 when in oppostions side of the field. They use him about 85% of the time when is 4th and 1 or less than a yard and a half. He runs for 3-5 yards on 70% of his runs yet they only trust it for 1.5 yards at most for some reason.
I could have lived with Colleto on 4th and 2 from the 41, even if I don’t think it was needed or smart. But running him is twice the odds of success on 4th and 2 of any other play I have seen all season. What we called was 35% odds at best and I think his odds there would have been 65% atleast. Had we used him on the 2 point conversion I think odds were about 55-58% he makes it from 3 out in that situation. Only reason to extend to 2nd OT is if you think you have a strong chance to make a 3rd OT where he would have been our advantage. Odds of getting to 3rd OT though weren’t as good as Colleto winning it in the 1st. You give it to him and give him the chance to be hero. More likely than not he’ll find a way into the endzone.
What a complete collapse. Hope none of you planned to go to a bowl game because it just got kick through the uprights in overtime.
So this is why the Beavs are always on the Pac-12 network.
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At least on road games
Guess we need a new # cause we definitely done now.
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“We actually get paid to do this” one of the announcers said,
Sadly, I wouldn’t take a dime to watch this horseshit!!!!
Goodnight!
I’m not impressed with Oregon, Stanford, or ASU, so there’s still a good chance to make a bowl. Stanford probably the best shot. Even if they make one, the entire picture is clouded for me because of Smith. Can’t stand handicap coaches. One positive about GA was he wasn’t awful in this area.
Agreed. I’m tired of Smith’s stupid gambling when it is unnecessary.
Do we honestly think that they will be competitive with whoever they go up against if they do get to a bowl game?
The one time I thought Smith would gamble and he doesn’t. I would have probably bitched if he went for two and didn’t convert, but the way this game went, it may have been the best chance to escape. My 14-year-old son was screaming go for two and end this thing!
Well, Washington has a long shot at least. Very long shot with Morris.
Write in the COTT this week if you want. Too depressing to draft that up!
Beat USC, WA and Utah and lose to WSU, Cal and Colorado? Go figure….next up losses to Stanford, ASU and the Sucks! Smith costs his team another win as the game should have never gone to OT. I’m tired of Smith’s and his staff’s stupidity. I’m pulling my annual $10.00 donation to the beaver football program as not enough bang for the buck!
Shut up!!!
Honestly, the most Smith thing here would be to win out against all odds.
And why the fuck isn’t Gould getting 30 plus snaps a game? Everything he does with the ball is a positive.
Washington’s coach is even stupider. He punts to the Ducks 4th and 10 with 1:59 left and 2 TOs lololol.
Scratch that, safety. Wow. They look just like da Beavs.
Defense fucked this one away. To win, you must score more points than the other team. The last 2 games were lost on defense!
Disagree. Defense held them to 13 in 1st half, despite the offense showing no signs of life.
Then the offense gifted Colorado a short field early in the 2nd half with that idiotic 4th down play in our own territory.
Defense wasnt great by any means, but they did a good enough job to win this and the offensive coaches did not.
CU almost had 400 yards of offense. The P-12 announcers were babbling about the Beavs improved run defense, the stats are showing 155 yards rushing for Broussard.
Offense giving the defense short fields a problem at Cal too.
Also how the hell did the D give up 3rd and 15 on Colorado’s TD to take the lead with 2 1/2 mins to go? Our next two recruiting classes and our transfers should be 50% D Line.
Since this team isn’t a road team, do we even want to go to a bowl game we will most likely lose because this team is inept with playing on the road minus USC.
Smith’s too much of a liability. I doubt we win another game this season with him at the helm. We will play down to Stanford next week.
Never said this before tonight but Smith needs to fire Tibs ASAP, and if he doesn’t do it tomorrow, Barnes needs to fire Smith and make Michalczik the interim.
Also, Smith is 0-4 in games where a win would result in a bowl berth.
Do the Beavs ever play zone? It seems like man to man makes it easier for these young QB’s who continue to have success against Tibs suspect defense.
We tried zone against Wazzu, and got burned.
We don’t have that 3rd down veteran outside linebacker that is great in coverage.
On that 3rd and 15, I would have played picket fence zone defending the goal line and blitzed the fastest linebacker from the outside. It was too easy for the QB to read the man to man.
We like to make things hard on ourselves
I like to make things hard on myself too so long as I have a copilot.
I’m done with Tibesar as D Coordinator. Bend don’t break isn’t a scheme that wins championships. We need to go back to a 4-3 and get away from the keep everything in front of you DB play. That defense is fine if you have breaking speed to make a play, this team doesn’t have recovery breaking speed to make the play. Also, Jones got burned on a double move early in the game. So that’s lack of experience and Colorado knowing that and taking advantage.
Hasn’t the lack of speed at linebacker become more and more of a liability with teams that spread the field? I guess in 2019 Hamilcar was the speed that offset the other linebackers. Is McCartan fast? I know he’s probably out for the season. They need to recruit for it ASAP.
LB speed coverage wise has been a problem for about 9+ years. With that said, DB is the issue. Corner blitzes used to be used in Oregon State defenses under Banker. Not saying Banker would be better, but Banker did have us as LB U for quite a few years at one point.
Usman please beat Covington to at least salvage the night for me. Sucks win and Smith loses the game for the beavers to I’ll settle for a KO of CC. Put him to sleep for good…..
Put yourself to sleep now!
Post game thoughts:
Coaching staff should be reprimanded and publicly challenged for this debacle of the last 2 weeks. I think the entire program thought they were just going to show up and get 2 wins.
This must be quite a shock for them all now. They may still luck out if Stanford starting qb is out, but more likely the young guy is mobile and will be setting Stanford records for pass completions and rushing yards etc.
Tibs can get off the bus and drive about 40 hours east and never come back, take Lindgren with him.
Baylor isn’t getting as many chances as earlier and it is showing in the results for the team and him. He doesn’t look like he is enjoying it right now. He had a nice 1st down run, came out and didn’t get back on the field for a possession in the 2nd half. Not a good look for the offense. Lowe is doing great but not it can’t be at the expense of Baylor’s touches.
Beason should not be back on the field.
Where is Gould? WHere is Lindsay? QUick outs to Harrison are gold, but only once a game ?
Defensive backs are atrocious and Grant should be off the field, horrible tackler and embarrassingly soft against the run.
Spieghts played like he was hoping not to get hurt rather than a physical beast like last year.
Dline gets zero push on pass plays, blitzers don’r come close to qb ever and whiff once he scrambles.
Lindgren only ran 1 fly sweep but to a tight end on a reverse. Horrendous play calling on anyu creativity in the run game.
It looked like Colorado had some tells, or reads on where Baylor was going, or their coaches need to play the lottery tonight because they were guessing correct each time.
JS cannot continue to give bad teams short field opportunities. Should have gone for 2 of course as well.
Nolan isn’t a D1 qb, he is missing guys wide open, and refuses to hit the check-down. Frustrating qb play makes everything much more difficult. Nolan cannot be the starter next year. I sort of hope he isn’t the starter for the rest of this year…
Someone said that Gould should be taking all of Flemings’ snaps. I disagree. He should be taking all of Beason’s snaps.
At least Champ doesn’t drop or fumble the ball often.
I can’t honestly think of a negative play from Gould this season and at least 7 or 8 negative plays/drops from Beason. Obviously the coach has an issue with him. Would not be surprised if Gould hit the transfer portal. He was a spark in the game tonight. AGAIN. Would love to hear a question from Daschel on why doesn’t get snaps.
Not to read too much into it, but doesn’t it seem like Beason has bad body language this season? Almost like he expected to be a star and he’s actually regressed.
I think I’m the one you were referring to, and I completely agree. My comment was just that Champ and Gould are a similar style of player, so it’s more a direct substitution. And my comment also included KR where Champ is worthless (and Gould could give a spark).
Beason has been easily our worst WR this year, and maddeningly he still is getting tons of snaps – 2nd on the team behind Bradford. Champ is just very limited in size and athleticism, BUT he’s reliable, has good hands, and might have better chemistry with Luton then anyone else on the team. He’s made some plays the last two weeks. That being said, if we’re going to play a 5’5″ dude, WHY are we lining him up outside?? Makes no sense.
Bradford, Gould, Harrison, Lindsay, Champ would be my top 5 in that order. Think I’d like Champ best as a 3rd down specialist.
Whatever passing game plan Lindgren comes up with is fucked. No one is getting any significant separation, besides Gould or Fleming on a drag route. It’s too predictable.
Just do what Wazzu did under Leach and make the mesh wheel combo the base play. We have the speed guys (Gould and Flemings) to run the mesh, Musgrave to run the go, and Harrison or Lindsay to run the post.
It’s all in Beason’s head right now. He was a great player for us last year, but he needs his snaps reduced significantly until he can reliably catch the ball.
Yeah, even on that first long pass play, which I’m sure was designed to fool Colorado, there was no separation. P-12 teams have been very disciplined in the secondary against the wide receivers. I don’t know why one wouldn’t start out the game with a couple of Baylor stretch plays and go from there. College games are long, there’s plenty of time to call a long pass play. I also noticed on some third and longs, Nolan stared down just one receiver and that receiver did not get separation, either that’s on Nolan or not great play calling.
It’s a good that OSU is a soccer school..
You are a d-bag….go tea bag uncle Phil and nurse yourself to sleep.
Really? That’s the best you can do?
Regarding the defense. Is this the second straight game with zero sacks and zero turnovers? I’m not sure about the sacks, but it seems like it. Sad commentary.
Yup and only one actual legit Ab hurry that was close to a sack one time
It’s not even worth my time typing up a game analysis and point out all the brain dead mistakes. Why should I care so much when clearly this team and coaching staff doesn’t care about winning right now.
Smith is now 0-4 with a chance to clinch bowl eligibility. The way things are going, he could be 0-7 in that department in 3 weeks.
My question is, what happens if this team actually does finish 5-7? The question is what will the university do? Not what do we as fans want, but what will they do? It almost feels like you can’t fire Smith, right? It’s possible that a move like that would make the wrong people upset (boosters, alumni, former players) whereas moves away from Riley and GA were almost unanimously accepted by most people.
I’ve seen this sentiment echoed on Twitter tonight, but it’s hard to imagine I will give this program any more of my money for the time being. Not when Tibesar is on the payroll. It doesn’t matter how this season ends, he needs to be fired. No questions asked. If Smith doesn’t have the stones to do it, Barnes should.
If this same defensive effort is displayed the next three weeks and he keeps a job, I will not attend a game until he is fired or shows he wants to be a competent D1 assistant coach. I will contact Scott Barnes or whoever I need to to tell them this as well. I’ve been to many games with teams a lot less talented than this, but I am drawing the line here.
I hope to see this program have a spine and do the right thing and fire Tibs.
Our only chance at a bowl is winning next week, in case that wasn’t obvious. But at this point, I’m fine with losing out if it means something gets changed in leadership.
I feel like Smith has done a good job rebuilding, getting better players, and starting to develop expectations of Bowl games which is impressive considering where Andersen left it. I give him more latitude.
I also think we caught a tough break with Gebbia getting hurt. He would make a lot of those throws that Nolan misses which would make the running game even more lethal.
But the defense needs to change. If we can’t get pressure on the QB with D Line then we need to blitz more. Roberts and Speights aren’t good in coverage anyway so send them after the QB. Both Cal and Colorado were struggling to get to 20 points most games. They have looked all world against us. Scheme needs to change or Tibs needs to go.
I would love to get Nebraska’s Chinander as our next D Coordinator, or someone with similar defense.
Didn’t Colorado fire their o-line coach a couple of weeks ago? Look at the improvement. If I remember correctly Sitake at BYU fired his d-coordinator midseason a few years back and it pretty much saved his job. When the results are not really improving with this big of a sample size something needs to happen. Remember pussy Riley wouldn’t get rid of Banker at OSU but when things got real for him at Nebraska he finally pulled the trigger (over the phone).
The end of the season is fine, but Smith needs a sense of urgency.
They won’t change the defense near end of the season. You make those big schematic changes after the season is over. Tibesar should change his defensive scheme for next year and if he says no, then he needs to go. I don’t blame position coaches because the players aren’t playing a pin your ears back defense. That’s not a Tibs defensive scheme.
Yeah, but you could fire Timmy tomorrow, make Bray the DC, and send a signal that an inability to learn, adapt, and improve are unacceptable. Bray wouldn’t change the scheme, but he could at least NOT put LBs on WRs so often, blitz, and make some line up changes. Time for Grant to sit; he’s getting by on that “best player who started out as a walk on” false narrative. Bray becomes DC tomorrow night, lets team know that players who want to start have to tackle.
Maybe OSU loses some dead money on Timid Timmy, but if the HC and AD don’t show they are serious about winning, then that Reser expansion is going to be pretty empty for this poor product. You can’t sell those expensive seats with this kind of product.
With OSU up by 4, and CU facing 3rd and 15, it was Timmy Time, and CU gets a 16 yard TD.
There is no good reason or probability that keeping Timmy is the best answer for the remainder of this season, or for next year and beyond. None.
Timmy time lol!! Ahh fuck it’s so sad and predictable
If the mods want to put up a post game thread, go for it. Else we’ll stick with this until Monday. I’m not going to be around until then.
UTSA has a solid staff. If Smith wants to keep playing Russian roulette on his own 40 then he needs to realize there are options for OSU. We either win next week or Smith likely will be 0-7 with a chance to clinch a bowl spot. UTSA up 30-9 at half. Will be watching their defense in 2nd half to see if the defensive scheme is much more to my liking. Their team looks to be a legit Top 20 team at this point and have to admire how they play up to get in the national polls and rankings. Hiring away their D coordinator is something OSU should be capable of.
The state of Texas is rich with HS talent, especially on the defensive side of the ball.
I really hope someone poaches Smith this off-season and we retain Michalczik to be head coach. He is the run game coordinator and OL coach, which has been our most successful part of the team. Why wouldn’t we give him a shot? We don’t need a flashy hire to be a consistent 8-win team.
So there could be some bitter irony here. A shitty ’18 Beaver team was Colorado’s easiest chance for bowl eligibility, but Legend Luton led that second-half comeback, and the Buffs never recovered or won another game to finish 5-7. Let’s hope the Beavs take care of business against Stanford.
I really enjoyed the USC and Utah games after the past several years. I was 5 years old the last time Beavers won at USC. I also really enjoyed all the positive comments on this site, like we actually had a good team. Don’t know if they make it to a bowl this year as everyone has figured out our “identity” and made us lose it. Kind of think the OC and DC are sinking the ship and if JS pulls a Riley and supports his guys to the end, he goes down with them. Sometimes it seems that the OC/DC are watching a different game.
OC was certainly planning a different game. Starting the game with 3 passes is inexcusable with this team and the running attack, not just Baylor either.
I think the staff is plagued by 3 elements stemming from the first year of JS:
1) Loser mentality regarding strategy- assuming Colorado would sell out to stop the run, so never try to establish the run
2) Gambler mentality at the wrong time- JS is trying to be aggressive like Chris Peterson but he gambles at the worst times and with very bad consequences when it goes awry
3)Defensive scheme designed to bend not break seemed to originally be installed due to the lack of talent, perhaps there is still a lack of talent, but then the coaches are culpable for not being able to recruit the right type of player for the schemes
I think what disappoints me the most as this year continues is the resistance to embracing this team’s obvious strengths. Why is the staff blinded that this team has all of the tools offensively to be a ball control, smash mouth Stanford-like version of OSU football. Yet they continue to force Nolan into passing downfield or pocket passer out of the gate. Nolan has shown his best skills to be a designed runner, passing rolling out but not a drop back pocket passer. His rating is high but he doesn’t pass the eyeball test watching him game after game, unfortunately.
The team has regressed badly, JS and staff have regressed even worse because they can’t gameplan for the 2 worst conference teams on the schedule properly. Unbelievable.
This is one of those night when I wish I had never become a Beaver fan. It is maddening to be a Beaver fan.
It’s maddening to be a fan of any team. What matters is if you stay with them when you’re maddest.
I’m gonna turn into the hulk soon. I’ve seen 11 winning seasons in 26 years of watching. I’ve seen about 149 wins and 153 losses. Endurance is ending.
I don’t even want to know the record of you old farts that have been fans since the early 70’s instead of just 1994.
Gould’s usage is mystifying. Whenever he’s on the field he’s making a huge or clutch play. Unfortunately he plays like 2 snaps a game. How is he not a full time starter?
Beason has been the worst WR on the team hands-down and yet he’s still seeing the 2nd most snaps behind Bradford. Doesn’t make any sense.
Champ is small and athletically limited but great hands, high football IQ, and seems to have the best chemistry with Nolan of anyone on the team. Seems like we’re playing him in weird formations (why is a 5’5″ dude ever lining up outside??) but he should probably have a role – at least on 3rd down. Need him off KR though. Total dud there.
Harrison and Lindsay are both up and down with big plays and then drops. Bradford is our clear #1 (except for possibly Gould?), so hope he’s OK.
We had to attend a wedding, dinner reception the whole deal this afternoon/evening. Seriously who in the hell gets married during football season?
I set the DVR expecting to cruise though a relaxing route, per my 41-14 prediction this morning. I just finished watching what, I believe, had to be one of the worst Beaver performances since the 80’s. I saw the same things you guys did. Reviewed the comments above, so I won’t beat a dead horse. Just don’t get it. Night…Night
PS: I hear we have a good soccer team. Is it the men’s or women’s?
Men’s are ranked #2 and the women’s team is actually pretty good this season to.
Don’t think this team has 1 more win in them. 2 of the teams we still have on the schedule ran for 300 yards tonight against much better defenses than ours is right now. Sadly, we threw the ball 38 times with a 52% completion rate against the 91st ranked run defense. Something tells me that despite Utah running for 300 yds and 6 touchdowns this offensive scheme will be to throw the ball yet again. They just can’t get out of their own way. The goal should be to win the game so if that means running the ball 100% of the time, then run the damn ball 100% of the time. It’s almost like the game plan offensively is to have a 50/50 split and not to actually exploit weaknesses of the opponent or play to our strengths.
4th down call early in the game and on the wrong side of the field yet again comes to bite the Beavs in the ass. Stupid decision. Personally, I wasn’t totally against the PAT to tie in OT but I’m more surprised as that seemed like the 1 time where it made complete sense to go for it and he doesn’t. Baffling.
Nice to see people finally getting off the Tibs train as it’s been a little lonely the last 3 years I’ve been saying he needs to go. Lol. Not sure anything else needs to be said there. Bad scheme. Bad preparation. Bad adjustments (if making any). Feels like the defensive players are already thinking about Christmas break and have mailed it in. I knew we were in for another stellar performance from the 1st play where the TE juked and sidestepped 3 Beavs on his way to the 20 yd gain. Watching that play I was hearing the Chris Berman “whooop” “whooop” (not sure how to spell that sound he made) as our guys kept flying past the lumbering TE.
I’m also disappointed in the complacency of a lot of the fan base. So many “golly gee what a hard fought game” or “you’re not a real fan if you criticize the team” or “well at least we’re not getting blown out anymore”. I just don’t understand it. Why don’t you want, nay, demand, better from your coaching staff? You spend money on tickets or merchandise. Most of us have spent lots of money on tuition. Or maybe you donate your time or other resources. Regardless, you have skin in the game and the complacency is why we had 28 years of losing records and on the verge of 9 years with no bowl games.
My response to the “at least were not getting blown out anymore” comment is that very soon they will be if they’re complacent with losing games like this. These are games where players lose faith in their coaches.
You don’t have to look further back than 2017 to see OSU completely imploding. Tibs is just as bad as Clune was then.
Thank you Usman for kicking Colby Covington’s a$$. It took some of the sting out of the beavs loss at Colorado to an interior opponent. Right now I think the beavers are staring at potential 5 game losing string and another losing season…This year has just regressed back to its old losing ways. If they can turn it around the last two of three, great but I don’t see that happening. Between the horrible defense and the pathetic play calling and coaching, that’s tough for any team to overcome. If Smith isn’t careful, he’s going to gamble away his HC job as a beaver. I’ve been a strong supporter of his from the get-go but at some point you have to take a long hard look in the mirror and ask yourself, “what the Fuck was that?” I’ve reached that point as a fan and supporter of Smith but have concluded that he might not be as smart of a coach as I originally thought. His bad coaching decisions have cost the beavers at least two games this season, WSU and CO. The beavers can’t continue to give games away and expect to win..At a minimum, Smith needs to cut bait on Tibesar and the rest of the defensive coordinators and rebuild yet again. On offense, beavers need much better QB play and that starts with better evaluation of QB position. This team continues to disappoint this year and the coaches too. We must be the worst 5-4 team in the country especially on defense. Stanford and ASU certain look beatable and are at Resers but unless Smith and his staff get things turned around, I wouldn’t expect wins. I hope I’m wrong but my eyeballs tell me otherwise. Well, at least the WBB team showed some promise earlier against western Washington.
Disappointing lose but not surprised. The talent especially on d and qb is not there. Nolan is ok but not great. He’s not progressing like I’d expect. Tibs takes a lot of heat but I’m not convinced there’s a lot of d coordinators that could do better with the lack of talent especially in the trenches. To complicate matters, JS has consistently made critical mistakes that have hurt his teams chances. Against Purdue, WSU, Colorado his poor decisions may have cost us. And I 100% think we should have gone for 2 in first OT. Colorado had to be relieved to see our extra point team. CU had burned their TO and I immediately thought that JS would have said to Lingren, “after we score, we’re going for 2. Have your best play ready to go.” Without a TO available, CU would have been screwed
People seem to be making excuses that we’re not that good, etc…well the entire league is not that good, and we should be 8-1. Think about that. With boring “conservative” coaching, we’d very likely be 8-1. Sure, we can’t know definitely that punts and properly management of 4ths would have resulted in wins, but looking at the games in retrospect, very likely. I don’t buy we don’t have the talent. We don’t have the coaching talent. The one thing Smith has done very well is bring in legit 3-star talent, so I disagree we don’t have the talent. The HC is losing the games with reckless calls. I saw this first at Nevada in 2018 and commented on it that game as something to watch because the management was so extraordinarily stupid. Sure enough that pattern continued, and I’d say last night it got even worse, because Smith now doesn’t go for two when it IS the correct move. It’s almost like he realized his stupid decision earlier in the game and was trying to self-correct there. That’s a HC way too much in his own head. Need a HC with “feel”…hard to explain what that is, but you know it when you see it, and Smith doesn’t have it.