I’m sticking with 28-21 Beavs.
My thinking is Daniels’ mobility is key to this game, and Bray will put a spy on him. I liked seeing more 4-3, too. Just works better at this level. Put a spy on Daniels, sell out on the run, and then run the ball on offense. That’s the formula.
Some wildcards like crowd, weather, coaching are all in the Beav’s favor.
Go Beavs!
Wow Oregon getting dominated! Don’t think they’ll be a number 3 team after this.
31-28 Beavs! Win turnover battle and control the clock. Ultimately need good Nolan. Go Beavs!
Utah looking good!
Several examples of solid tackling by Utes in that half, can Bray develop the same?
The third TD was an example of what can be done by running right at Kavon Thib.
Man that was unreal. 10 sec left in the half, Utah forces the ducks to punt. Utah returns it to the house. 28-0 at the half!
If Utah wins this the Beavs control their own destiny for the P12
WSU has something to say about that.
Just noticed that, how would a 3 way tiebreaker get decided?
Posted in previous thread.
no 3-way tie scenario sends the Beavs to the Pac-12 title game.
Win out, Need Huskies to win crapple cup.
Yup, the only team that still has the Beavs number could screw them one more time before the season is over.
Ducks still have plenty to play for even if they lose tonight. A civil war win still gives them the north title. So there is that.
Wait we still need a WSU loss I think
Good thing Apple cup is at UW. They have a shot as that’s their bowl game.
That punt return TD is all on Christobol. Run the ball and go into half down 3 TD with a chance to come back. No chance now.
Whittingham could have used all three time-outs if he was so inclined, but yes the passing showed signs of Cristobal desperation.
Great coaching move by Whittingham to set up that punt return. Unreal.
Duck playoff hopes are gone!
Butt fumbles, gambling, fart-sniffing, and Beaver moon! It’s all ripe for a satanic win tonight!
Satans 66 – Beavs 6.
I’m not sure whether to be happy that the Ducks are getting destroyed or pissed that it’s those mother fuckers from Utah providing this beat down.
I wish both could lose.
The right side of the ducks D-line is just getting owned. Utes way more physical than ducks in all phases.
And sacked lol
Mario the fraud.
ASU has a great run game. Good backs and Daniels can scoot. Gotta contain him to be in this game…and for the good Chance to show up. Sadly, think ASU wins this one despite their bad record in the NW late in the season. Unfortunately, I’m a house divided tonight as the wife graduated from ASU and I need the bragging rights but Devils 35 Beavs 24.
I saw most of those big run games and stats came vs bad opponents.
Their record in general is a result of weak SOS. Their best win is UCLA. Losses to both ranked opponents (BYU and Utah.)
To their credit, they’ve taken care of inferior opponents (unlike the Beavs.)
I’d say the Beavs defense has been pretty bad a good portion of the year. Hope Bray can slow em down but even when we had good defenses the mobile qb has always been a problem for us. Would love to be wrong though!
Hah, calked it last week regarding McKinley’s injury….karma bitch, karma for your dirty play on Gebbia last season on the goal line. He’s out for the remainder of this game and hopefully rest of the year. Karma is a bitch and right now McKinley is the bitch.
Called it last week….
Here’s a towel to clean-up after yourself!
Utah did it for me as they cleaned up that piece of crap McKinley.
Hope that guys career is over. The guy is as dirty as they come. Fuk that guy.
The tackling ability difference between Utah and quack is astounding.
Along with “good” Nolan we need a dose of the Utah style tackling tonight.
Diva Williams showing his character tonight for Nike while his QB implodes
I saw that too. Another receiver also seemed miffed. Brown seems hobbled; got a few hard knocks early.
Windchill 33 degrees at kickoff with temps dropping. Advantage, BEAVS.
Don’t screw it up, Smith.
Game stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtyoXHDunb8
Crowd looks amped!
Oh yeah, baby. That’s “my stuff the box and make Daniels win through the air” plan.
Well that’s a start :)
So excited to see a DB actually hold onto a pick!
Huge hit on Daniel’s. Wow
Stupid script with no runs on the first drive
3 passes to start the game. Unreal.
Someone hire Lindgren, please.
To be fair, we would have had a first down if Nolan could hit his receivers
If Nolan could hit his receivers, we wouldn’t be yelling for the Beavs to run.
When Beavergopher and I saw the start with three passes I said: “Angry’s head is exploding on the site right now.”
Hopefully the Utah score holds…while there are no transitive properties, OSU DID drop 42 on Utah in a victory…
S A C K
Sack and INT on the first two drives? Is this what defense looks like?
Exact D game plan I wanted. Nice.
Defensive playcalling quality has been the exact opposite of the offensive quality.
Run the ball!
Run the ball! First offensive series was offensive. 3 passes no run?? What are we doing.
D looks great. Love the new look Bray D
Now the offense is doing what I wanted. Nice.
Don’t blow it, Smith!
First and 10 and you run Colletto?
Awful.
Fire Lindgren.
That was some serious overcompensation.
“Oh crap, they’re gonna crucify me for passing 3 straight…uh…get Colletto in there!”
Haha.
The only justification there is you’re setting up a possible pass later in the game on a 1st or 2nd.
Beautiful kick.
52?
2 EZ!
Beavs on track for 6.
Why not go for it on 4th there?
You’re trying to give everyone here a heart attack nice and early :)
Get the heart some reps now before alcohol gets in the way. ;)
Analytics
Everett Hays leg is unreal. He’ll probably end up in the NFL. Just looks effortless when he kicks it.
Roberts looks like an old man in coverage
He’s now in medical tent, per radio. Unknown reason.
Late news, ankle tweek….may return
He looks terrible out there. Same with Speights. We need some linebackers than can cover. This is ridiculous.
Beaver moon strikes again!
Anybody else see the blatant hold on 3rd down?
Beavs been called on weaker shit!
Yeah the hold prevented the sack. Couldn’t believe that they missed that one, it was obvious.
Then of course the refs “correct” the situation by handing the Beavs the first holding call in the game on their longest play.
I see fisher Morris in there more. Are we playing 3 lbs?
More 4-3 allows for more flexibility in personnel
Yeah I am seeing a 4-3 when we are lining up on Defense.
Then we get called for a BS hold
Bullshit holding call
Two downs to run the ball!
Horrible spot.
…and a no call targeting!
I know Colletto got it, but why didn’t Smith challenge that spot? Could have been a huge error. Very clearly made the 1st.
Analytics
Yup, guaranteed conversion with Colletto on 4th and change.
Harrison’s feet are even more impressive than Jayden de Laura’s hands
This is gold Jerry, gold!
Gotta love Harrison in space!
Wow, these telecasters just chewing into Champ…stopping just short of calling him a midget.
Is he the Noelle Mannon of the FB team?
My boy, Harrison.
What a move. Do that more. Get the ball to these receivers in space.
Like the quick throws. Nolan making the read and executing.
Harrison with the Madden juke!
Need more Harrison and Gould on the field. Let them make plays in space
Oh god…so stupid. Smith strikes.
Don’t worry, we have analytics
BeeG and I knew sitting in the stadium that this wouldn;t go over well here.
Scratch ticket KO, you can’t make this stuff up!
He learned how to coach from Madden ’95.
Beautiful read on the screen there
Smith the gambler needs help. Kick off… what the hell was that!
Smith gets away with it. I wonder if that justifies the call in his mind.
He forgot he fired Timmy and panicked when he saw the defense getting ready to go on the field
Simple. I love it.
He was shaking his head though like he didn’t like the kick. Maybe ST made that call?
I dont think he wanted that to happen.. he looked visibly upset after the kick.. almost like he didnt know it was coming
Anybody else notice that Terence and porter are going to fight on ESPN+ Pay Per View?
I’m pretty ok with hyper aggressive calls when defense can’t stop anything. A game like this is a totally different animal. Defense is playing real well- give them the chance to perform.
Lindgren looking sane again
2 didn’t establish himself back inbounds before recovering!
That was actually a good call that needs no review. What a waste of time.
Yeah PAC-12 refs actually got it right the first time on a difficult call.
Dare I say…Beaver moon?
Illegal touching dude standing out of bounds.
When was the last time OSU defense looked this competent? 2012?
Way behind but did Baylor and Roberts do the senior night thing? They heading off?
Both did
Fucking horseclollar no call bs
Bradford’s hands have been money this year
Simple, I love it.
Bread and butter is working, we’re leaning on it, and we’re throwing in junk plays to keep them on their toes. I like it.
You get the sense the Beavs could do this all day, but ol’ JS gonna get trigger happy and start gambling….
What’s great about this offense is the time it’s taking off the clock. I hope
Smith realizes that is a great way to help the defense.
Absolutely critical to keep ASU from scoring in the last 2 min of the first half. Kick it OUT of the endzone, please!
My write-up is spot on for this one.
…And the AB haters warm up their thumbs………..
You are soooo goood!
Fisher seems to be around the ball a lot in the limited minutes he’s gotten. Perhaps he gets more run time now with Bray?
Yeah haven’t seen him before, but he is constantly around the ball.
He got some good play time in a game or 2 earlier in the season and played really well. Guess he didn’t fit in Timmy’s scheme.
He was just blocked by Roberts and Speights playing every single snap
He played some in goal line in the Washington game. Glad he has stuck around.
He did tweet Dam Right after Tibesar was fired. Sounds like he knew something.
ASU with more penalties in the first half means the refs will call a bunch of crap calls in us in the second half to even things out.
Good energy in the stadium, even if only half full
Bray doing a bang-up job!
They just look so much more aggressive with their blitz packages. It’s night and day.
Worst coaching mistake of the year: Not firing Tibesar earlier.
Imagine winning this game (remains to be seen, but looking good so far) then winning the civil war only to send the cougs to the championship game. I might puke.
To be fair, not sure smith knew Tibs was the issue early on in the season when you are looking at personnel. Defense was decent against Purdue, Washington, and usc. Then it fell apart against wazzu, Utah, cal, and Colorado. Not sure you can fire the guy after one or two bad games. I would have been fine moving on after last season but knew smith wouldn’t.
WSU, Cal, and Colorado all wins with a defense in the 33rd percentile.
Man these uniforms made me smile. What a time that was.
The Ute uni’s looked good tonight too; Beavs look best……even saw the “Ericson Lid”on JS and staff..classic!!
GWH where is that bull from again? Massive beams. Beautiful.
On that targeting review, Looked like #0 tried to kick Bradford in the head?
ASU getting mouthy and pushy after the whistle after the Nolan TD, frustration showing, that could catch up to them. Hope they implode in second half.
Also, when Baylor is running like that, keep riding him…dude is feeling it.
I always felt that Tibs was holding this team back. I never dreamed it was by this much. Maybe it is a mix between Tibs being so bad at his job and Bray being good at his job.
I’m sure Bray is consulting with Bray senior, definitely way better on containing ASU’s speedy players. Night and day difference from Tibesar.
Damn, the Beavs are actually playing defense! Must be the retro logos.
Retro defense. Maybe they should wear white jerseys next week w/black these pants and helmets….
I still don’t understand the Beavs chances at the Pac 12 North. Several announcer comments and/or graphics have said Beavs control their destiny but then one has also mentioned we’d also need WSU to lose to UW next week (which was also mentioned by several posters here on AB).
Easy to understand; many talking heads don’t think, only read what some clown writes for them. Happens in several areas, not just sports.
The weird one is WSU needs OSU to win.
They’re misinformed.
WSU can no longer win the north. It’s either OSU or Oregon.
Just caught up. Great 1st half. Crowd is poppin and team is feeling it. Baylor looks like a dude in a mission. Hayes has a massive leg and is making the ASU kicker look terrible. Absolutely love what Bray is doing with the defense. Great zone blitz scheme with lots of confusion. Scheme puts the corners on an island but Daniels is only averaging 4 seconds before he has to avoid or throw.
Uniforms are the tits
The tits!
An undefeated home slate would be nice progress. Keep up the intensity!
If we could have any mentality for the rest of my life defend the home turf would be it. Losing at reset hurts more.
Undefeated home state slate sounds good.
Beating the ducks for the next 200 years would be great.
Starting to miss tackles again.
Do you think Mike Riley will come back when Smith goes to Huskies?
Even they can’t afford a 3 million buyout after canning lake.
Daniels has a crazy body. Like he plays college ball so he must be pretty strong but he looks like he’s never done leg day. So weird.
What a grinding drive. If we just rush right back they will never catch up
3 million? Let me check my trousers.
Yeah that’s smith’s buyout this year. 2 for 2022 ans 2023 then 1 for 2024. Assuming no renegotiations.
Why did we throw on third and three? Over thinking it. Keep it simple.
It was an inch from working for a big gain though.
So did chance over throw it?
He sailed the pass a little which made Lindsey have to jump for it and his toes landed out of bounds.
Oh yes for sure. If he would have hit in stride it would have gone for an extra 15
Well, if that was the case he’d have more that 70 something yards for the entire game.
Something about this scheme definitely works for Austin. He’s playing very loose and well.
At the game. Drunk. Not really watching the game much. Winning. Better defense then normal. Stout beer. Gonna feel it in the morning.
Be strong, yell more!
Section 12. Let’s go brother
WTF penalty was that
Lindgren is falling into his demons again. Hopefully the d can get some stops.
Looks like we hope the clock runs out. We stopped being aggresive on offense
Damnit Franke. Side note, Frank is Swole AF
That one will be fun in the film room.
Who is Franke and what the hell was he thinking
RUN THE FOOTBALL!!!!!!
I’d like to go to bed……………….
Good night
I would say through 7 quarters Bray is certainly passing his audition.
Well fuck
Nolan sure has some games were everything kinda breaks down for him.
What is Lindgren doing?
The one time Smith does the right thing and punts…
Nolan sucks. All the more reason to RUN THE FUCKING BALL.
Welp, gotta figure out how to get it going again on offense.
How about we just….don’t throw the rest of the game
Nolan isn’t good enough for what Lindgren is trying to do. I don’t get wtf is up with the play calling!
Every single conference loss Chance has missed on so many big plays. He’s the glaring weakness on offense. They’re containing the running game a lot better in the second half but I’d prefer they just run every down instead of letting Chance throw it cause he’s a mess. This offense would be nuts with a QB with accuracy. That’s the missing piece
Obviously we should throw on all three downs on this next drive. Nolan might get it close.
In all seriousness if we throw, let’s try a screen pass.
So glad I got to catch the second half… WTF??
I gotta correct mysefl from a post above as I was not correct. WSU CAN still win the north. But they need ASU to win tonight, win the crapple cup and the Beavs to win the civil war.
17-10. Nervous here
No. That isn’t correct either.
That would put WSU and Oregon tied. Oregon wins that tiebreaker. I see no scenario that WSU wins the north no matter what happens tonight. That ended with Cal winning the big game.
I’ll write up the scenarios after the game.
And as I type, the hammer takes it to the house on 4th and 2.
Nope. My original statement was correct.
I’ll write the scenarios after the game
Does Luton have any eligibility left? Lol… He was so underrated. Especially, after watching this seasons atrocious QB play.
Kipper is getting dominated
Oh god JS gonna roll the dice?
Hahaha! Nice!
Probably the highest probability available if you put colletto on the field. He hit that hole like…well guy is crazy legs jack hammer milf hunter Colletto for a reason.
Running good, colletto the milf hunter is the best.
Run the Wildjack the rest of the game. Every snap. Nolan takes a nap.
Haha. That was awesome. Safe to go to bed yet?
I was concerned that you missed that Jackhammer TD! Good thing you stayed up
Jackhammer…I’m horse
COLLLLLLETTO!!!!!!
Crazy legs strikes again!
Holy shit!
Angry you know it’s not safe until the final buzzer
CoT
That was the right time to go for it. Bray is dealing
Very happy with Bray so far. Even when he rushes 4 it’s setup for a blitz.
That was pretty solid long speed for a big guy! Haha Colletto needs to never come off the field. Not joking anymore.
We should run way more Colletto at FB to attack stacked boxes.
Colleto should get to blitz the QB. Looks faster than some of the other LBs…
Next year he’s gonna end up with a state line like 1 int, 2 sacks, 6 tackles, 2 Rush TD, 1 Recieving TD and 1 passing TD. 7 total yards.
Colletto – most popular engineer in OSU history?
Unfortunately no chance based on athletics. Kelley is an absolute legend.
Ruth is legend
That should seal it.
Fucking loving the blitz scheme. It’s confusing AF.
S A C K
Defensive plays like that next week please…
Colletto passed 47 times in 2018?
Anyway, he has 9 TDs now this year.
One of our worst QBs of the modern era. I thought it was a joke when he changed to MLB. He’s a legend
Why don’t I remember him passing 47 times? He actually played QB or were they all trick plays?
No he played 2 games in 2018 after Luton broke his back and Blount was out with an ankle or something. He was not good.
Go beavs!!!
The Jack Hammer thing kind of skeeves me out.
Embrace the Innuendo
The MILF Jack Hammer?
I used to live below a guy who…well…never mind.
Pour one out for the homie
The Milf Hammer.
Haha
Best defensive performance of the year, hands down. Solid game plan, executed pretty well. We look well coached.
Idaho was good but yeah, it was the fucking vandals lol
Need 4 more minutes of the same. Missed FG gives ASU life.
Oh yeah, in memory of Jack……it’s not a fork!
Even ASU gets it wrong and says “Fear the Fork”….”Tremble at the Trident?”
Hayes is erratic. Bummer. He looked like he could be really good.
He has time. Serna was the worst kicker we ever had until he wasn’t.
Serna is still the worst kicker ever.
That was a clear “Fucking kicker…” expression from JS right there.
How many missed FG’s is that in the last few games?? Ugly
Missed like 4 out of last 6 I believe.. 2 of those were 50+ though
Everett “Jekyll and Hyde” Hayes.
Big leg but he’s not reliable with the easy ones. Maybe we could try the two kicker thing? Find someone who only kicks inside 35 yards but is trustable?
Kyrei has been all over the field tonight!
Hayes will be fine guys. He could be a Grozny finalist next year.
I agree. Besides, the dude hit a 60 yarder. Already a legend in my book.
You know your defense is doing something right when the other team keeps getting false starts.
By my count 7 this game. That’s sophomore kipper status
Love how we’re not playing prevent right now. Stick with the aggressive defense that got you to this point.
Bray making Tibs look incompetent.
Fucking truth.
Daniels looks like his IQ is about 67
69
Gigity
66…6
Niicee
Room temperature at most.
Rush the ball bitches
Bray calling from the field is cool. I like it, adds a hands on intensity.
Perhaps a hand-jive’s intensity??
Bray deserves a lot of credit. This defense looked completely different. Gave up 10 pts. but 7 were because the punter dropped the ball. I like that he played different players and he blitzed and put pressure on the qb. The defense played with emotion and that is a reflection on coaching. I think he deserves a shot at the DC position.
In the post game presser, Fisher didn’t hesitate to say that Bray is the reason for the D’s play.
2nd undefeated home season since 1968…other was in 2000.
24-10 final.
That’ll do Beavs. Great W.
The north title is still in play.
Good chance. Bray impressive. We beat ducks. Go huskies
So pleased that the old ass Parker side gets sent off with an undefeated season and a mostly clean win. Baylor with the most workman 150 yards ever. 7-4, we are better than my expectation for the season!
Corrected record. Sorry I’m high AF and drunk enough.
7-4.. at least 2 games left.. so could win 9 games
With a possibility of 10!
Loved Baylor’s yardage total.
I predicted 8-4, winning the PAC North. Hope it holds. Where is Apple Cup?
UW at home
Apple Cup is scheduled for Friday, Beavs will know the result when they meet quacks on Saturday, mid-day.
Well glad my 66-6 loss prediction didn’t come true!!!
Also how have we beaten some of the toughest PAC-12 teams and lost to some of the worst? Gives me hope against the Ducks.
That’s Beav football in a nutshell!
I have been critical of the coaches at times this year but that was a very well coached game all phases. Congrats Beavs!
Ooooooo
Ssssssss
Uuuuuuu
Oregon state! Fight! Fight! Fight!
Every time Nolan drops back I wonder WTF is going to happen…
And I’m praying that it is something good…..
What a weird season. 3 loss Utah clinches and if we take care of business then our hopes lay with the results of an apple cup with no head coaches. Dafuck
So much coaching instability this year….
A good day in Oregon for wins and losses.
Beavs have a shot at the North and a good bowl while the PR machine in Beaverton is working hard to make sure the duks are just number 4 after their loss.
Here are the multiple team tie breakers…………
Multiple-Team Ties:
The following procedures will only be used to eliminate all but two teams, at which point the two-team tie-breaking procedure will be applied.
1. Head-to-head (Best record in games among the tied teams).
2. Record in games played within the division.
3. Record against the next highest placed team in the division (based on record in all games played within the conference), proceeding through the division.
4. Record in common conference games.
5. Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics Following the last weekend of regular-season games.
If Oregon wins the civil war, they win the north. The Crapple Cup does not matter
If Oregon State wins the civil war, then…………..
If UW wins the Crapple Cup, OSU wins the North. IF WSU wins the Crapple Cup, Oregon wins the North.
Yep need wsu to lose. Than it’s just win the game Saturday. Perfect scenario that the apple cup is Friday. We will know what can happen exactly before kickoff
Our division title hopes start in the paws of the puppies on Friday. Why do I not feel great about that…
No matter what, Beavs play for pride and to spoil those losers post season.
UW has owned the Cougs.
Since 2000 UW has a 15-5 record against WSU and won 7 straight.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Cup
Scenario above has a false. If WSU and OSU win its WSU to win North. If WSU wins $ OSU loses its UofO gets North. If UW wins its a civil war for the North. Really quite simple. And no matter what crappples give, OSU plays to remove UofO from the picture.
LOL. Wrong. READ the verbiage at the top of the multiple team tiebreakers.
I still think you’re wrong about this. Canzano said it. Parker said it on the radio broadcast. The fact that you can still gamble on WSU to win the Pac-12 should tell you that you’re wrong.
LOL. It was written on Twitter so it must be TRUE!
I’m going by the verbiage written on the tiebreaker procedures ON THE PAC-12 website.
Multiple-Team Ties:
The following procedures will only be used to eliminate all but two teams, at which point the two-team tie-breaking procedure will be applied.
1. Head-to-head (Best record in games among the tied teams).
2. Record in games played within the division.
3. Record against the next highest placed team in the division (based on record in all games played within the conference), proceeding through the division.
4. Record in common conference games.
5. Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics Following the last weekend of regular-season games.
The first two multiple tiebreaker procedures do not eliminate TWO teams.
How do you READ that differently???
I apologize….
“ALL BUT TWO TEAMS”
2 DOES NOT DO THAT.
It eliminates ALL but one team. The verbiage states this…..
Multiple-Team Ties:
The following procedures WILL ONLY BE USED TO ELIMINATE ALL BUT TWO TEAMS, AT WHICH POINT THE TWO TEAM TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURE WILL BE APPLIED.
So you’re saying the Pac-12 website is wrong and Twitter is correct?
More than the fact that I’ve seen everyone else but you agree with me, like I said, you can still gamble on WSU to win the conference. In the scenario you outlined above there is no way for WSU to win the conference. That’s what you said. Sportsbooks aren’t leaving a team up there that doesn’t have a shot to win. I also think that was a 2020 specific stipulation, considering it was a shorter season. Look at that date on the article. Blame the Pac-12 for not being clear about this either way.
If that is the case then the Pac-12 website is incorrect. That article was posted on July 31, 2020.
Unless the Pac-12 clarifies this?
You, sportsbooks, Parker and Twitter are not correct.
But it’s all pointless to argue about anyways like I said earlier today. There’s only one way the Beavs can win and that’s all I care about.
That’s the only thing we agree on. And we will know Friday night if the north division title is still in play
I also agree that you are right that the wording does indicate that it would eliminate teams until there are two left. I think at least where I don’t understand is the fact that WSU would stand alone in that 2nd tiebreaker at 4-1 in North games. So why doesn’t that mean they win? Because the way you are describing it means that we use that 2nd tiebreaker determine WSU is one of the “two teams” and then we go Oregon and OSU more advanced tiebreakers to find out who that second team is? That doesn’t make sense to me. I would be upset as a WSU fan if that scenario happened the way you laid it out. Why should they be forced to go back into the two team tiebreaker scenario when we had the best record of the 3 teams in the multi team tiebreaker? I just think it’s all screwy and the wording could possibly be a little more clear. Because the key phrase “used to eliminate teams until just two teams remain” doesn’t mean, at least to me, that you HAVE to go down to two teams. That’s just what they do so that they can go down to 2 teams. If you ask me, Oregon and Oregon State are “eliminated” because they both would have a worse North record. To me, if WSU stands alone at 4-1, it makes the most logical sense they should be the winner, not be forced out because of some weird “elimination” process where Oregon State gets knocked out and then Oregon goes to Vegas because of the H2H win over WSU. I’m sure it’ll be more clear throughout the week as the media covers this. I still think I’m right, or at least my logic is right. But again, Beavs have 1 path.
Crapple Cup will be a 5pm kickoff on FS1.
on Friday. So we will know by kickoff. My bad
https://twitter.com/beaverfootball/status/1462316205516025859?s=21
Strange list – not sure if these players are planning to leave or if they’re just graduating from OSU and could come back for a grad degree?
Offhand I see Baylor, Grant, Kipper, Roberts as guys that still have eligibility.
Before Saturday night’s game, OSU plans to honor the departing seniors on its roster. Those honored also includes several players who have college eligibility remaining, but have graduated and are thinking about making a run at the NFL. Coach Jonathan Smith said they’re welcome back next season if they decide to return. Those honored tonight are QB Sam Noyer, CB Elijah Jones, DT Keonte Schad, OL Noah Seumalo, OL Korbin Sorensen, WR Trevon Bradford, C Nathan Eldridge, OL Brandon Kipper, OL Nous Keobounnam, RB B.J. Baylor, OLB Andrzej Hughes-Murray, DB Jaydon Grant, ILB Avery Roberts.
Random thought: undefeated at home has to be solid for those recruiting weekends.
Why did the Beavs ever ditch their 2000 look. The helmets weren’t great,but the unis were tight.
Also – is Smith recruiting a Coletto replacement? Can’t imagine that part of the offense will go away when he graduates.
Unfortunately, you don’t replace a guy like Colletto… he is truly a special talent.
Funny shot from the tv screen. Some fan on the field holding up a crappy cardboard sign fit for Colletto.
“I’m only here for the MILFS”
https://twitter.com/DCTitch11/status/1462334576424996865?t=00k9b11NmiIXEj8JdMlKTg&s=19
The Pac12 results for OSU are so much the polar opposite of what most people would have predicted going into the season.
Who would think OSU would get their Ws against:USC/UW/Utah/Stanford/ASU
With losses to: WSU/Cal/Colorado?
The biggest factor seems to he home field but we did manage to put in a good game at USC, so why not next week too?
The x-factor in those three losses feels more like Tibs shitting the bed and JS being a little too heavy with his 4th down trigger finger than it does Home vs. Away. You could add the offensive game-plan seemingly playing away from the teams strengths as well. There’s an argument to be made that the Purdue game could be chalked up to having the wrong QB1.
It’s been a fun and emotional season and I’m grateful for it as a fan, but not without it’s mistakes and blunders.
Remember when Cory Hall had them jumping on the O pre-game at Autzen? Feels good that it seems like that was so long ago now (it wasn’t).
The ducks were never elite. That was all a mirage with preseason ranking and luck getting Ohio state before they figured out their own issues. They’re faster than the beavs and have home field advantage. Beavs are better in every other area. Should be a good close game if both teams play well.
They got a LOT of perception “value” out of that Ohio State win. Lost to Stanford, looked pedestrian against a few other, non-ranked teams. They never looked genuinely elite, which I would think includes executing well in all three phases every week, balanced offense w/big play capability, taking care of the ball on O, getting TOs on D. Most wins in control, win on the road.
I think to beat Oregon you just have to establish early you’re going to be more physical than they are. They are prima donnas who want to play the soft game.
I think you need to make them a passing team. Don’t allow 5 yards on 1st down and they start to stray from the run game. Even moreso if you can force negative yardage on 1st down. And once they start passing, they’re very vulnerable to getting picked or just flat out missing open receivers because Brown isn’t very accurate
BIG JIM agreed with you, ObjCritic, on the post game radio. Said much the same re: “never looked genuinely elite”
Big reasons is they don’t have an elite QB. He’s more a game manager.
Anyone ever use a Starbucks to stream a game? I’m going to be driving home from the in laws when the civil war kicks off. I’m going to have to leave earlier then find somewhere to stop 3hrs and stream.
No BWW or other sports place with giant screens on the way?
I doubt it. I’ll be somewhere in Iowa or Nebraska at kickoff.
Also, someone posted a really nice YT link to the game last night. Will that be available Saturday? Need to find a good reliable stream.
I can stream it on discord if people need one
Thanks. I’d need that. But I won’t have access to my email addy. Any chance you could post a Discord link in this thread? Also, if that person above who posted a YT link could do that again, would really appreciate it. Have to see this game somehow…!
https://v2.sportsurge.net/… it a site that collects streams, good for all sports. As always most of the streams are full of ads and pop ups. As long as you are competent and know how to navigate around them, this is the only way to go. Sometimes the streams work better than the network apps lol
JS commented at last week’s presser that he wasn’t on board with the bad 4th down call/play. This week he looked similarly ticked about the short kick-off in the second half.
I wonder if he is really trying to be more of a CEO than we realize and his assistants have quite a bit of autonomy to be creative and take chances during the games.
I’m encouraged that he has the same reaction I do on some of these plays at least. I also wonder if Nolan has the liberty to switch to of a running olay into a pass play given what he sees from the defense. We can’t really know this, but it also may explain some of the mystifying pass instead of run series, to give Lindgren the benefit of the doubt.
Great win by the Beavs, now just beat the Ducks. Brown looked like he got pummelled by Utah early in that game and his top 3 recievers are not available for next week. Sell out to stop the run and force Brown to win with his arm. Repeat the same game-plan as ASU but commit to running all over the Ducks.
Colletto went Legend status with that run, and I expect there is a play out of the wildcat for him to get a TD pass on his resume as well.
Stop making excuses for him. If he doesn’t want bad 4th down calls or bad kickoffs then they won’t happen. Do you see Saban’s coaches doing things like that? At the end of the day it’s a Smith problem. Buck stops there. I think these are his decisions, though. Very odd if a coach defers huge game-changing decisions like that to assistants.
Not so much seeking excuses but rather an explanation for JS demeanor. I am with you on all of the gambling and I’ve wondered if he shifts to more by the book risk taking as the team improves, but this year has proven he may be the issue on the gambling.
Probably the smart football minds on his staff all tend towards over-thinking, including Tibs. Bray may be the only guy that has a lot of knowledge/game iq and is able to keep form outsmarting himself, which is why the team is responding.
A really smart guy sometimes needs to continue showing how smart he is and the basic/simple strategy becomes boring.
What a horrible 4th down call with Colleto TD. Absolutely horrible. Angry is the 1% Olive write about.
Glad I went to bed at halftime.
Underrated in this final is Loecher’s punting line: 3 punts, average of 51 yards, all inside the 20 (with that one awesome one downed at the 1 yard line.)
Dude should be All-Conference.
Hayes may be the Hekker of kickers. He has the leg to go on and be a really good NFL kicker if he can learn to hit the easy ones. Weird that he has no problem with XP’s, but has missed some short FG’s.
True but he also had the fumble that almost cost us the game.
I thought I read it was a bad snap?
Snap was good
No he 100% dropped it
It’s in the PAC-12’s best interest to have the refs screw the Cougs to the moon in the Apple Cup. A primetime Civil War with the North on the line would be amazing.
And why risk having the Cougs make the Rose Bowl and hearing the refs repeatedly talk about the Rolovich COVID scenario?
*Announcers
presser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeDV3aI-F5E
My favorite part about last night? Hearing Rod Gilmore bitching about teams from AZ and CA having to com ‘north’ to play in November!
Gilmore likes to hear himself talk. Do you remember the 9-yard come-back route to I think, Bradford and Gilmore was babbling about the great ASU defense on the play? It was a fucking nine-yard completion, who cares if the defender was right on him and pushed him back. The Beavs easily got the first down on the next play because of the completion!
Haha, my friends and I were laughing about that during the game. 9 yard completion on 1st down and he compmiments the covereage on the play. He was “bad take” guy over and over last night
Beav’s overcome my presence in Reser and have great win. The fumbled punt being the only oh…f you have to be kidding me moment.
Stadium atmosphere was great even with a small crowd.
FTD and let’s win the Civil War!
May the curse be broken….
What about WannaBeav? Did the fumbled punt change his approach to 4th downs?
Who to cheer for next week
Cal, UW, Arizona,
All for bowl game purposes.
Beavs seem destined for the sun bowl if the standings hold. Not sure Vegas or holiday bowl would choose beavs over UCLA or ASU.
Sun Bowl would be underwhelming.
Is Alamo bowl out?
I actually don’t know about that. The Beavs could be an attractive draw given how long it’s been since we’ve gone to a bowl.
Plus we have the best offense in the PAC 12. The bowls want high scoring games. We do some exciting things like going for it on 4th down all the time, that should make us even more attractive. Plus they can talk about Colletto so even the sideline reporters will be excited lol
ASU 4/11 on third downs, held to an even 100 yards rushing.
Looked like ASU biggest plays came when ISU linebackers were covering receivers/rb receivers.
Schad appeared to have his most disruptive game of the season? Or has he had better ones? I’ve not seen them all.
Per daschel..
‘When Tibesar was fired two weeks ago, Oregon State ranked 127th among 130 FBS schools nationally in third down defense. The Beavers have turned that statistic on its head the past two weeks under Bray. Stanford and Arizona State were both 4 of 11 on third down. That conversion rate of 36.3% would rank 39th nationally if it were the case over an entire season.
Better yet is third and long, which plagued the Tibesar Beavers. Stanford and Arizona State were a combined 1 of 6 on third and long against the OSU defense.’
So far Bray has made a huge difference
I don’t get it. Was Tibesar overthinking things? I’ve heard “simplifying” mentioned a couple of times. The Linebackers suddenly look quicker to the ball. The DB’s are in better spots more than not. Real pressure is being created on pass rushes and the D-line is not getting pushed back three yards on the inside runs. It’s obvious Kyrie Fisher didn’t think much of Tibs, but I’m sure he was looking for more playing time (after last night he deserves it). Others players are being tactful. I wonder how divisive Tibs was and if JS waited a season too long before making a change? This could have been a special season with more consistent defense.
There is the “smart/anlytical” and the “emotional”.
I’m thinking now that Tibs fell in the first camp; focused on technique and overall, almost philosophical, principles.
OTOH Bray emphasizes effort and “fight”. At the same time he recognizes you have to get pressure on the QB!
More pressing receivers with zone blitzes. Less delayed blitzes. Basically the philosophy is being manifest in the play calling. The best way to stop an offense is pressure them and take it to them. The defensive call of rushing 3 and zone coverage is rarely called, now. This was a Tibs go to. This can work but mostly against air raid offenses that are looking for vacancies in the zone. It also requires a good secondary and good coverage linebackers. In short Tibs could not figure out scheme and play call to our strengths.
ASU has had their offense shut down about 3-4 times this season. Oregon will be an even better test of Bray as I believe they have been shut down once.
Liked what the defense did vs ASU, it was disruptive and fun to watch. Seemed like they gave up more than one 3rd and long…no just another third that went for long, 24 yards…Sparkys didn’t do themselves many favors with all the offensive penalties, thou, often putting themselves way behind the sticks on 3rd. Can’t really get too excited about 4/11 against Stanford thou, they’re converting 3rd downs at 34% for the season and they played second, third and fourth string qbs. Need a bigger sample size; if Beavs keep $ucks to less than their season avg then maybe they’ve got what they need heading into bowl season.
Smith needs to copy Utahs game plan. It’s a similar one he has had success with. Limit Nolan’s passing. Run the ball. Utah didn’t go away from it yesterday. Can smith fight the urge and do it for two halves next week?
I would certainly dissect every inch of that Utah-Oregon game to game plan against the ducks. On another note, I would hate to have to play THAT particular Utah team in the PAC 12 championship game; I think Alabama would have had a difficult time winning that one! Maybe it would be different on a neutral field, hopefully we will find out.
They also showed how to easily neutralize Kayvon T with extra TEs blocming or just simple directing the play towards the opposite side of the field. Gotta resist the urge to hold him when blocking though
Agree, and add that, as the third Utah TD demonstrated, running at KT can also work. Requires those extra blockers, and the Beavs have ’em in the TE group.
Thought KT was a disappointment to quack fans last night.
A last thought on him, as pointed out here a few days back, he can look worn out late in the game.
Game Ball to:
#24 from Arizona State; excellent shove of Colletto into end zone. XD
EARLY VEGAS ODDS….limited sites:
WSU 3pt dogs to…well the dogs
OSU 13pt dogs to…the hype operation in Eugene
Repeat 13 pt dogs…will that go on a bulletin board?
13? I guess they figure ducks at home will be playing pissed off. Which they will be for sure. Run the ball beavs please.
NiceBeav – you hear anything about the recruit reactions who were visiting yesterday? Sounds like a pretty amped crowd was present, and I’m hoping some of them came away with a favorable impression.
Some have posted about having a good time but that’s all I’ve seen. Official visitors are still on campus and traveling home today, so probably wont hear anything on that front. Wouldnt surprise me if we land the Juco CB Cooper in the near future.
Oliver may take a little longer. Knaak still has another 2 visits to take.
Nice to wake-up Sunday a winner.
A little of a minor point with possibilities ahead, but last night’s win guaranteed the first winning season since 2013 also. Finishing 6-6 with the dreaded bowl loss still gives a team a losing season. That has now been avoided. Good on The Beavs!
Does anyone know where to find a highlight reel of Mike Parkers call for the Colletto td run?
Varsity app
Go to on demand menu
Thanks
As usual totally nailed pregame prediction. Games become sort of routine once you know the outcome.
You are a wonder.
I was out last night so only caught bits and pieces of the ASU game. I predicted a loss of 38-21 for the beavers and glad that I was wrong. I’ll watch my recording of the game later today. I have no idea about the Civil War game though.
This season has been so unpredictably strange so it’s hard to know what to expect. I wouldn’t have given the beavs much of a shot two weeks ago, but it now appears the beavers at least have a shot…it really depends on which two teams show up. Will Oregon be disappointed about not being in the CFP and suffer a letdown? Will OSU finally put together a complete game like they did vs Utah, usc, Stanford, etc.? I think the game will be close and it will depend on which team owns the LOS. if OSU gets the running game going, they could wear down the ducks D line. If not, I don’t think Nolan and the beavers can beat the ducks by passing. BTW, looks like karma bit McKinley in the ass last night and ir sounds like he’s out for the Civil war game and that’s very appropriate given his dirty play on Gebbia on the goal line. I hoped karma would bite him and I posted that comment on AB not too long ago…thank you karma. Go beavs!
Weird question, but since you bring up McKinley. I’m wondering if college athletes are exempt from any civil lawsuits for their actions during the course of a competition? McKinley’s action was clearly not a “football play” and what if it has ended Gebbia’s career?
Good question but I don’t know the answer. Civil cases have different legal standards than in a criminal case so it would definitely be interesting.
This could be good news for OSU. TJ Hall decommits from UW this morning.
https://twitter.com/TjHalljr1/status/1462505582796017666?t=nC9L8QkI-Bko4b2Wa2g1iA&s=19
Will Hall’s leaving have any impact on the Apple Cup? Beavs need a complete game from UW.
No inpact, he’s just a 2022 recruit, not a current player
Were we on the list for him?
What was the loss that was most galling for you? For me, WSU. Bad fourth down call by smith, lack of Baylor and/or Fenwick at end when they had been unstoppable. Such a winnable game and another streak would have ended. Also, obviously key for positioning in North.
Worst loss for me is Colorado, they are terrible. Tibs made them look world beaters
Yeah Colorado was terrible. Just thinking about the losses in conference is sickening. All three were winnable. Blech.
For masochists, Beav’s MBB is now on (P12 Network). Calloo out with knee tendinitis. Akano starting in his place. Davis and Andela starting. Hunt a minor injury, but available.
Vegas:
A couple hours makes a difference with the books, WSU now favored by 2
Beavs, no longer 13 pt dogs, now 7.
Still limited books reporting but I’ll guess the lines don’t move much more.
Anyone get in on the 13 points?
TJ Hall, who previously decommitted from AZ to UW has again decommitted from UW. What’s the update on him?
Ignore this^
JackHammer talking about MILFs again. Dude is addicted.
Jack Colletto on what he saw when he took the snap on his 47-yard touchdown
“I saw a bright sunset, daylight. There were angels. It was a wide-open hole, and I said, alright, let’s go.”
https://twitter.com/carterbahns/status/1462336787259424768?t=w2uzooB8EBecXg0lcdcOgg&s=19
He’s a breath of fresh air compared to the typical sports cliches.
“We all need more Colletto in our lives”……per a commenter there.
Comment of the thread….
Next: Beavers use Jack in wildcat from inside their own 10 for a 96 yard TD run….
Was he referring to a MILF when he said it was a wide open hole, let’s go? Asking for a friend.
Broken record, Princeton is 6-12 from three land, but it’s 22-22 with about 8 minutes left in the half. Big Tinks is losing it, more animated, sweat pouring out on the sideline.
What’s the record for worst season after an Elite 8 run?
I don’t know, but I hope this team doesn’t set it. Princeton dismantling the Beav defense to start the second half up 49-42 with about 16 minutes left.
Beavs down 10 with about 6 minutes left. Hunt put back in the game, doesn’t draw iron on a three, and forces a wild lay-up. So much for “athleticism” also, Princeton has 12 offensive rebounds.
Its like a bunch of athletes who have never touched a basketball before, but every game
Well, they are storming back with the 1-3-1. Only down two with 2:40 left. Never mind, just gave up an open three, Davis misses a short pull-up. Down six with under two, game most likely over.
Beavs lose 81-80. Princeton had 13 offensive rebounds to 5 for the Beavs. Nice comeback, but too little too late once again. Weird game, Beavs shot 56% from the field and lost. Princeton made six more threes and nine more free throws.
Beavers have the talent to be 5-0 right now and should be but Wayne’s strategy on offense is extremely outdated for today’s basketball. If you’re gonna play more for paint points and give up threes, you have to crush teams in free throw attempts but the Beavers don’t have a guy who can get to the line 7-8 times a night at minimum. Losing the three point and free throw battles creates a very low opportunity at wins. They should realistically be attempting double the threes. They have talented shooters but Wayne insists on playing a style that just isn’t conducive to winning anymore. They went 7 of 15 from 3. They should have hunted threes a lot more. Wayne wasting a talented team.
Beavs MBB lose 81-80. Team gets itself in position amd then seems like it is content in allowing shots with a reasonable chance of falling for the opponent. When down 2 I wanted a Lucas three that would have a chance to fall and give a chance at a rebound. The Davis shot came from pretty close range but he was taking on 2 players. Could tell he wanted to take it. Thought we could get a better look than that. Tinkle still not putting this team together right. They give bad teams too many good looks at 3s, which is a recipe for inferior teams to beat them.
Any word on Avery Roberts injury?
Anyone else injured last night?
Possibly Fenwick, I believe he was on crutches.
Gotta wonder if some of the long term injured will be able to return this week……certainly slim odds.
Read quacks lost two WR for rest of season, Redd and Johnson.
Mycah Pittman picked a bad time to quit the program.
Beavs back into the “Others receiving votes category.” A win next week should put us into the Top 25 to end the season, right?
Ya considering it would be against a top 15 team.
While I am disappointed with the Men’s basketball program currently. I did notice that the 4 teams they have lost to are a combined 14-3. Something to chew on. Who knows if that will continue but I suppose we will see.
Except for I mentioned it in the previous thread.
Just for fun:
If Beavs actually get to the Rose Bowl,
1) Who is the most likely opponent from the Big Ten? OSU, Michigan, WIsconson, MSU, Minnesota, Iowa all are close to winning their division with 1 game, I don’t know their tie-breakers etc.
2) Who do you prefer they play? I’d like to play Michigan or Iowa as both are somewhat 1 dimensional offensively and Beavs could have a real shot at winning against any but OSU likely.
3) Is Rose Bowl assured at a minimum the #2 team from both conferences after the palyoff seeding?
Soccer school continues. Beavs beat St.John’s 2-0.
#GoBeavs
Mens Soccer wins 2 0
CW Game time 12:30 PST on ESPN.
Wish it was a different broadcaster…
Amen to that
Didn’t realize UO had been putting up such rushing totals:
“The Ducks had rushed for 300 yards in each of their past two games, but managed just 63 against Utah. Safeties Cole Bishop and Vonte Davis led the way with seven tackles apiece as Utah stuffed the box to stymie the run.”
Yup. Key to beating them is making a Brown throw.