I thought this was a win in the pre-season, and I’m going to stick with that after a lot of thought about this game. I’m definitely more concerned after seeing the Beavs are mentally immature and still can’t compete for a full 60 minutes. But on the flipside, Smith didn’t make any stupid 4th down calls, and he had the opportunity to do so.
I think the Beavs depth, especially at RB where we can bring in legit 5 backs and wear down Fresno, is the ultimate difference. Nolan is better, as expected, so we should use the pass but maybe more to set up the run. If we don’t run at least equally and instead get pass happy, I think we lose. I’m going to assume the coaches are smart enough to know that, which is a pretty big assumption given Lindgren’s track record, but it is a new year, so I’ll give him the benefit until proven otherwise.
Final prediction: Beavs 31-24
1st? Go Beavs!
2nd!
With the price of silver going up I am golden
#Beaverjuice
Yeah this usc qb is excellent – might have to change that game to a loss.
USCs defense doesn’t look like a pushover either. Lot of game left.
Read that U$C sent $6M to UOklahoma to buy out the coaching staff. That’s on top of what they paid to buy out Helton ($14M?)? That’s a lot of money to NOT coach, then throw in the salaries they pay TO coach for USC.
HOPING, not expecting, OSU beats them on their way out of the PAC….
And I hire USC grads that are over $50k in debt. Things are out of wack man.
U$C that good or tree that bad?
3 times inside the 20 and 3 turnovers?
Looks like a mixture. Only the usc qb stands out in a positive way. Their d maybe looks a step faster, too.
Shoot your own dick off it’s hard to score
Maybe if the USC game at Corvallis in mid day, stick them in the sun and by the students on the east side….
*qb
Emit Smiths kid looks terrible. Was he highly rated?
Alabama scrapes by Texas, aTm falls to Appalachian State, Notre Dame loses to Marshall.
C’mon Beavers, this is your year to be relevant!
Speaking of USC, Clay Helton is coaching at Georgia Southern this year. They just went up on Nebraska 28-21 in Lincoln LOL.
Lol. Frost will be fired if they lose that one.
Think the “we were big in 1994 contingent” will finally lose patience and front a buyout?
Yes I think so it’s become an embarrassment.
GoBeavs by 17
I’m on the #GoBeavs by 10
31-21, your Oregon State Beavers
Mike Riley was pretty good at leaving programs in total ruin, huh?
So does that make frosty the red nosed husker?
Haha yep.
Nebraska just got an offsides penalty…..on a CORNERBACK!!
Of the thousands of football games I’ve watched,I’ve never seen that one before LOL. Frosty truly is an innovative coach.
Pretty sure I’ve seen that as a jets fan.
Man if $c brings that fucking band to corvallis and I have to listen to that got damn shit all night I may go apoplectic
Yes they are f’ing annoying
“I think the Beavs depth, especially at RB where we can bring in legit 5 backs and wear down Fresno, is the ultimate difference. ”
The Beaver D looks to be much better this year. I think Smith will cut back on the risky 4th down calls, feeling like he can trust his D more than under Timmy. We’ll see. Hopefully he shows more restraint and looks at the long game more than then in the moment.
I think Beavers win tonight. Its refreshing that they’re entertaining to watch on both sides of the ball, competitive, and again, just entertaining. I’m partial to the use of multiple RBs, the TE sets, the use of Colletto. If Musgrave can be consistent and they can settle down a WR rotation, it will be even more fun to watch.
I agree Beavs win tonight. That said, it won’t be because of the RBs. Difference is Nolan, Oline. Dline, and DBs. Win TO battle and control the ball. 36-24 Beavs
Looks like the condoms can be run on
RB Trey Lowe did not make the trip to Fresno (unspecified injury). Will ask after the game
Daschel tweet
Damn. He looked the best last week. Wonder if Jam gets some touches.
It will be interesting to see what Fresno State’s defensive game plan will be. Boise state, as did most teams against Oregon state last year, packed the box and went all in to stop the run and forced the pass. Can’t just run for the sake of running against a stacked box. But hopefully the passing game as seen last week opens up the run a little more.
ASU looking for a possible comeback!
Don’t beat yourselves, dominate the LOS on both sides.
Beavs win 38-28!
Hopefully Smith will coach with an inner rage since he was victim to a Fresno loss when he was QB.
More from daschel:
RB Isaiah Newell also didn’t make the trip (unspecified). Beavers are down two RBs tonight … so look for Damien Martinez, Deshaun Fenwick and Jam Griffin to get a lot of work.
There I I go I guess. Don’t want it to be from injuries but I’m curious to see how Jam looks.
Geeeeez
Shit. Well those guys are all good and still 3 deep.
#GoBeavs
This broadcast is terrible, and they just kicked off
Loucher!
Good 1st down run, 2 passes… vintage Lindgren.
I dont mind it on 2nd if there was a RB in the backfield. Going empty backfield has no run threat. Our best plays are play action.
Big field position flip there. Ball on their 47.
Anyone with an opinion of the FUBO free thing? Not sure I want to try it.
There’s a free stream on YouTube.
Thanks, buddy, got it now
Is it worse to be on CBS Sports or Pac12 network?
That’s what I did, free trial, cancel tomorrow
I had this as a loss and consider it the bellwether game of the year. A win here and something great is possible. Not guaranteed, but possible. A loss here and to me it’s win one lose one for much of the year.
Streameast.xyz
Go for it.
See that was a good one. Called it before.
Fresno playing with a lot of emotion, maybe too much, need to exploit them, works on the pass to Musgrave then
a short pass by nolan sure td
Ball security continues to be an issue
Well that’s going to be overturned. Beavs take an eternity to snap it.
Nm didn’t realize he recovered it.
How do you overturn a fumble play that was called dead?
Pac 12 crew?
And never was possessed by Fresno. These CBS announcers are bozos
Yeah this broadcast worse than pac 12 network and that’s saying something
Okay Martinez and Jam the first two backs then Fenwick. No reason to have him on the field with the running back room we have. He’s a liability. Might have to use him more this game tho.
Fenwick. Crying out loud man!
Colletto time!
Nice run through contact by Martinez. Keep that shit up
He’s the best back just needs to get more carries and into a flow.
Neutral on this call. Probably take the points on the road but Fresno hasn’t looked stout so I get it.
I called Colletto!
Milfs everywhere just changed their underwear!
Colleto, the milfinator
To MILF: “I’ll be back.”
If there are 4th down calls comment beforehand if you think it’s a yes or no.
So far I have no issues with those calls.
If course you don’t
What’s that supposed to mean? I posted before the results.
I like the amount of “time” that took…persistence. Let Haener sit, let their O stay cold.
I’d like to see Colletto/Martinez package, which seems likely given RBs not playing.
I’m so smart. Lol
They talk about Colletto’s versatility, they don’t mention he’s a mechanical engineer…
Or a milf hunter.
Terrible job there. Gave away any momentum. It should be us running the ball down their throat.
Their defense just got ground up and have to come right back out though…they may wear out before second half
Well, that was an awful defensive series
Need a long sustained drive here. Should mostly be runs unless the box is loaded then Nolan has to make them pay.
Huh….this defense has not looked fast or in position so far this game. That’s a big play they gave up. Hope they take that personally.
This is going to be a battle. Need to show the resilience they showed at USC last year.
Learn to win on the road.
Make them pay for loading the box, ugh
Colletto shouldn’t be returning kicks. Too valuable.
Griffen didn’t look fast at all on that run.
That play was beaten by formation and bottled up before he got the ball. His only play was to cut back and he slipped.
My confidence is now shaken. If we can’t get into a rhythm, we will lose this game. Need to make a stop on this drive by Fresno State.
Need some energy and enthusiasm by OSU. FSU with all of it right now.
A TO would fill the bill.
Turnover agreed
Georgia southern up on Nebraska with 30 seconds left. Post game firing squad.
They won’t let him on the bus
Home game. He can Uber
They may not let him in the locker room
I think they need to work in some Nolan runs to put FS off balance.
In the pre-game show Wilson pointed out that OSU had not won a NON-conference road game since Hawaii in 2014. They look a little ragged tonight. Some drops and Nolan isn’t as accurate as last week. This game is going to be a slog.
Beavs are bigger and deeper, they need to out physical and keep leaning on fresneck
Agree. If they clean a few things up they will be alright. Right now they’re beating themselves. Blown defensive assignment, penalties, missed blocks and drops. Need to get Nolan a little mire settled.
Open field hold on that fs pass and no flag lol
Big difference so far…….Dogs catch the passes, Beavs don’t
Smith stared down Tongue. We might not see him again… ever.
When you call for the ball and drop it, I agree with this.
Our WR seem to have bricks for hands. Drops last week too. Perhaps we should recruit WR who can catch footballs.
It’s bad. We land all the 4-star wrs who got a case of the yips.
Wr can’t catch and rb can’t protect the ball, otherwise we good
We need a Sammie Stoughton, Mike Hass, etc.
Oh just some 1 every 10 years guys.
Nebby misses a FG on the final play and loses to GA Southern lolol
Sweet justice. Sometimes slow to arrive, but…
Mmm, I love corn
It was beautiful how half of the fans in the stadium thought the kick went through the uprights and cheered until the officials waved it off.
From so excited to total dejection
To many dropped passes on offense and no pass rush on defense.
Yeah Haener is a really good QB. Gonna be a tough game
What is going on with our pass coverage?
Big break. Reset and start running.
Agree, wear them down, play action, quit shooting yourselves in the foot
This game is going to say a lot about Bray. He’s not “keep everything in front of you, bend don’t break.” When does he gamble? When does he go zone?
This is a good precursor to games like USC with tons of FA talent.
I’m not opposed to his approach, but the timing of his calls…
Austin!!!
That play by Austin goes back to what angry said about getting interceptions when theres an opportunity. Could’ve possibly had a puck 6 there.
Dude that ball was marked at least 2 yds short on that Fenwick run.
Keep leaning on them, let’s go
Bolden!!! Heard good things from camp!
And td!
At least Fresno’s D is even worse lol
Hey we run and we have the lead…
Bolden is fast.
Great blocking by Harrison and someone else on the play.
Better than Victor…
not that it seems we’re missing him but tyjon Lindsey?
Now, let’s see what Bray has accomplished during that 80 yd drive.
Damn nice play call! Bolden!
Well set up by previous couple plays.
I’d like to see more Colletto, Martinez, Gould and musgrave.
Musgrave been quiet so far for sure.
If you watch he’s been blocking or taken away by scheme. Makes everyone else better if he can do that.
Are you an attractive MILF?
Bray is blitzing more
Great play call by Lindgren!
we have no pass rush
The open field tackling improvements are so huge…
Back-up ILBs in?
Need a good, legitimate, hard hit on Haener, not a cheap shot, just a good timely hit/sack
Haener is really good and the FS offense is matched to him.
Beavs are going to score a bunch. Can the D get a few stops?
Fuckin stupid penalty.
Lots of colletto on defense tonight. And mascarenas
Perhaps they’re the better cover LBs
I mentioned above the backup ILBs r in.
Tedford QBs coached list was like a list of a bunch of polished turds aside from a couple.
Very good college QBs. Which is what you want…in college. Their pro careers are immaterial.
Yep.
Thats what I was saying.
Open field tackling has been unreal
3 minutes for Nolan to lead a drive, up 4, need to score even 3 before halftime.
Wilson opines “OSU’s defense is vastly improved.” It would be nice to get 3 if not 7 here.
3 minute drill. I feel like these have often burnt Smith where we dont use the full 3 minutes and then give up cheap points going into half time. Lets see if we’ve grown this offseason
chuck er deep
harrison needs to sit
Another drop, sheesh!
another damn drop.
These WRs are a joke!
Harrison with a fucking drop again
Harrison. For crying out loud!
Wtf is up with Harrison’s hands!
Major: masonry
last week I said Harrison needs to ride the pine. he’s a liability out there.
Jiminy Christmas!
Fucking catch it!
Harrison needs to stay on the sideline.
Why does our punter suck this week?
They’re getting good pressure
Had to kick it quick as there was about to be a block
Huh? didn’t he kick a 65 yarder?
Nolan needs to get in their ears. Fucking catch it! That simple!
And we used 50 seconds to give Fresno a short field and 2 minutes
Momentum killer
Plus they start with the ball in the 2nd half.
Coaching blunder, even if Harrison dropped a gimmie. Gotta bleed more of that clock
it’s not an exact replica but this game has a little of the feel of that awful game in Hawaii a couple years back
Holding on Chatfield ffs?
and now the penalties kick in
Only the second one tonight, both in redzone
Should we crowd fund a Jugs machine for this WR room? Harrison has big drops. TD last week and the 1st down tonight. Fack
Several drops already in this game. We’d be up probably another TD right now.
Who coaches wrs and rbs? Dropped balls have killed this team
Jerry Butterhands
Do they hand out butterfingers on the sidelines
Fucking Harrison…most of this is not necessary but for him dropping a pass in the hands.
Truth ^^^^^^^^
Need reliable playmaker, no one wants to step up
Have to reiterate, this broadcast is terrible, they don’t even know what down it is
So what WRs besides Bolden can play the second half?
Could.
Gould.
Jack colletto
D comes to the rescue with another hold to a 3. For once the Beavs actually do get a little lucky. outplayed but still ahead somehow.
Fresno with several blatant holds that were not called so fs getting plenty of luck too
Nice rush!
Chatfield is instantly our best pass rusher.
Pretty lucky to have a lead at halftime because they’ve been outplayed imo
Persevere. Winnable. This was obviously going to be a contest.
Need more Musgrave, Colletto, Martinez in second half.
And designed runs for Nolan!
I mean the drops are infuriating
Tedford, the wily old coach, has to feel good eventhough being stopped for FG twice. Gets the ball to start the 2nd half and has his guys confident. Bray needs to come up with a TO right away.
Zero sacks and only one TFL in the first half, need to change that.
Someone needs to light a fire under the offense skill players asses
The missing ingredient Smith should appreciate.
No CJ and no TJ.
We need a turnover. I feel Haener is getting pressured a bit more as the 2nd quarter was winding down. Need to keep that up and also need to make sure we qccount for the run game.
Hoping for a turnover is loser speak.
Yes, a TO is the way to change the momentum…..of course would need to be followed by an offensive drive, sans drops!
Don’t beat yourselves and dominate the LOS is the 2 things I said they needed to do to win the game. They’ve done neither and are up by only 1.
Haener is just one of those QBs that you hate to play against. He gets rid of the ball quick and knows where it needs to go. Honestly, I think the defense is doing a good enough job, our offense should be faring much better. Fresno doesn’t look as tough up front as Boise. We need to run more and get Musgrave involved. Our receivers are making me miss the days of Hodgins when he dropped nothing. I mean our two scores came on drives where we stuck with the run…
^^^^
This
Colletto on a wheel route? Other RB?
3-9 passing. 1-6 on 3rd down. Can’t continue those trends and win this game.
I would say we are 3-7 passing and 0-2 receiving
Fully enjoying the highlights of fuck face Notre Dame losing.
The coaching staff needs to take over and control TOP.
OSU has the OLine to win this.
I think Haener may give up a TO. OSU’s DB scheme and play is better than recent years past.
Fun contest!
“Elusibility” ?
Offense needs to step up. Should be in the 30’s right now.
That’s a win for the d…let’s get a td and fucking roll
gut check time comes early in this game. Right here. Beavs a TD. D has played well but they’ve been on the field a lot
Fresno has the better game plan and execution. Beavs are winging it and can’t execute. They should be running the ball.
Haener is putting on a clinic. Makes Nolan look like trash. The D can’t get any pressure on the guy. I will say that the play calling is much better for Fresno also. Just frustrating to have a team with no gas pedal and all coast downhill.
Nice to hold them to 3.
Harrison catches one for first down, don’t stop running though.
Of course a pass is called, incomplete
4th and 10……better punt
See what abandoning the run does……….
Fresno has this. Sorry, dudes.
3 minute possession doesn’t give the D much chance to breath/scheme.
Nah. You’re going to miss out. You act like the beavs are getting blown out. That’s silly
Wasted this drive by throwing a deep prayer on 1st down.
Dumb…we were moving the ball and controlling the clock.
Yep. Impatient and stupid yet again.
So many dropped balls. Why can’t our WRs catch?
New masonry major.
Why can’t we see more rushes and less passes???
Everything is there just need Nolan to rise to the occasion. Can Kipper or someone pick him up and get them focused for a comeback?
Another drop…
Run game isn’t quite there. Need some screens, quick WR outs mixed in with the run
Put any other QB in the game….I’m sick of the Nolan show.
The arms are down and the lights are flashing, but there is no train for miles…
WRs leaving this game on the field so far…
D effort is still good…
Chance is being killed by his receivers. So many drops to kill drives. He’s played well but numbers look like garbage cause they’re dropping balls left and right. Beavs beating themselves tonight
I agree. Support isn’t there.
Yikes.
Feels like a dagger there
I’ve never seen a Smith team not respond. Lets hope that it holds true here.
They’re like lets fake some cramps so we can formulate a big play.
Oh no! We suck again!
This game is over. Fresno hasn’t punted since their opening drive of the game.
anyone want to join that 7-5 action I called in the pre-season prediction thread?
If they lose this 7-5 may be best case.
Classic oregon state fans. Like I said no OSU team has given up since Smith has been here. Oh Nolaan to Gould!
Loser mentality within the fanbase is evident.
Too much beav history i guess
Cool story. The D hasn’t stopped anything since the first drive of the game.
Weird because they’re kicking field goals.
And the beavers have only beat themselves. And r within a field goal
Cool story, I mean aside from the fg thing, they also haven’t stopped the beavs, the beavs have stopped the beavs
more Gould. Gould is gold
What mr 7-5?
that was a play on Angry’s line last week about joining the 9-3 train.
Agreed
With wb, not 7-5
Everything has gone Fresno’s way, and not necessarily by their making, and they just went up by 9. Why yall in panic mode?
Every year they do this. Look at last years thread. You would think we lost 4 more games. I call the chix lils.
I mean, we have a rich history of being…not good.
Ok, can’t argue that
Colletto please.
Td beavs…We suck
Gould and running. Gee…
We decided since we were down two scores it was OK to finally start playing some offense.
Quick drive (2 min) = little rest for Beavs D………I’ll still take it!
There we go, someone lit a fire under the offense before that series
It was almost like Smith pulled them aside and said WTF guys? Get your heads out of your asses!
Defense needs to step up, short game killin us, pressure not getting to Hauner
They’re getting pressure
Defense needs a take away here.
Our D is finally getting to Haener more frequently. Need to get him one of these times.
Olodapo been all over the place
28 with a great game. Several heady and athletic plays.
Its hard to tell with some of his tackles if he’s cleaning up someone else’s mess or his at sometimes. But agree!
Bray for president?
Nolan stepped up and has to do so again on this drive
Wow Colorado is truly a dumpster fire
Olidapo with the sack! Offense needs to step up again and help the defense rest.
Settle down, run the ball, impose their will, play action, catch the ball…
We haven’t seen much trickeration. I wonder if we will see a little razzle dazzle on this drive.
They’re still aggressive and that means a toss up on a trickeration.
Re-freak-so is killing us.
Now that’s how you throw a ball out of bounds. Haener doesn’t mess around.
Oladapo with the hit angry!
He’s really good.
Stood out last week, too.
Olidapo!
Defense overall is playing well. It may be offense that loses this one.
The problem is our d is looking tired. Gotta score here and use the clock. I don’t have a ton of confidence that’s going to happen.
Luuuuke
Gould with a drop and a no call on pi
Come on Lindsey…
There has been a little home cooking by the refs in this game. That wa PI
are they MW refs? I haven’t heard. We’ve gotten a few calls, which is rare against MW teams on the road.
Stupid.
Smith strikes for the first time this year.
Another drive killer going deep on 1st down when our receivers have shown they cant catch. Frustrating when the drive was working up to that point amd we had plenty of time to drag it out
Agree nb they were actually doing exactly what they needed moving it and milking clock.
going for it on 4th there? I agree, this time.
Wide receivers have cost the beavs. 5 drops tonight and that many last week.
Receivers can’t catch for shit
And I’m done. Shit play, diarrhea QB, fuck Smith and his mediocrity.
Eeyore has entered the chat
I love it when Remmers is on the other team.
So many drops… it’s like watching my stocks in the Biden era
Better to pick better stocks, or an index fund
You’re supposed to buy the dip like all those maga fuckheads said in the Trump era.
one more stop?
Set up for the Beavs to drive the field and win. If we only had a receiver that could catch a football
that FG decision matches Smith’s no punt decision
Tedford should have gone. Handed us a chance.
gotta chance to win now
Weeeeeee!
Harrison redeems himself. too much time left on the clock?
Musgrave is a ball player, nice block to spring the TD
That’s awesome redemption by ma boy!
Thought he was going to fumble…
Angry you said this game was over
Who cares. You said 100 stupid things in this thread.
that was my 3rd post
Angry is a giant douche. He tells everyone they are idiots while advising to buy bitcoin buy gold. He manages to do this while he’s fondling sheep testicles.
So did I. I’m shocked because from what I’ve seen Fresno has outplayed them for most of the game. Need a turnover or a stop.
That 2 point conversion was huge. A FG doesn’t beat you.
Can they get that elusive win in Fresno finally?
Harrison is so good once he has the ball in his hands. Just needs to catch it first.
Catches at the right time
1:50 seems like an eternity.
Yes. And we’re da Beavs…
Bleed called it. Nice response by the team.
Too much time left
32 minutes vs 25 TOP favors Bulldogs, Beavs D gotta step up one more time. You can be gassed after the game!
That stadium is empty now
here’s where we need the turnover
wow
Ouch!
Lol. That “blitz”…
Yes that blitz just got stacked up
Well….the good news is the Beavs can get it to 4th down with timeouts. So they’ll have some time if Fresno does score here.
Taken them 20 seconds to get down there. Not good.
YouTube played an ad during that. Probably for the best.
Well th3 missed pat is nice but our kicker is done right? Also, laces out Dan.
That Dan Marino should die of gonorrhea and rot in hell.
Well shit. Gonna have just under a minute.
That missed PAT is huge. A FG sends it to OT.
They said on the pregame our kicker (Hayes?) was hurt this week
Who’s been kicking pats for the Beavs? Parker said Hayes was earlier I thought
I think the back up was handling kick off duties was all.
Fg =ot
45 second td drive for Fresno
I have no confidence in Hayes.
Hayes was warming up. Thought he was injured earlier.
two shots at the end zone and if not a TD get the FG to tie
Gonna get two cracks at the end zone here. Then attempt a FG if no dice
Ma boy musgrave!
I remember nuc telling me qt was better. lol.
Qt is a pro, so …
Best blocking TE in OSU history? Its not all about getting the glory of catches. Plenty of guys working hard in the trenches allowing others to succeed.
LFG!
PI
That was PI in the end zone!
Getting humped from behind
will Smith go for the win on the last play and not a FG?
PI WTF!
not the fade!
Kick it.
Jackhammer!
Harrison points to the flag lol
Kick the FG and go to OT
Have to go here. D is a gassed.
Wilson says go for it
If we go for win, means we’re gassed and don’t want OT.
I’d only be for that if the call is colletto
And it was….
We are gassed. Fresno went 75 yards in 45 seconds.
This is the right call
if Colletto scores here . . . .
the hammer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Omfg! The milf Hunter for the win!!!
Milf bukkaki for him tonight.
Weeeeee!
Balls.
Colletto is the greatest beav of all time.
agreed
Nuts of steel
Love how when he came in and we all ragged on him for his “crazy legs”. Little did we know he was packing a foot-long schlong and steel nuts making him have those crazy legs.
Greatest beav of all time.
In jackhammer we trust!
Retire #12 at the end of the season!
Terry baker comes to mind.
Unless Colletto takes the team to a final four.
Yes!
Holy shit
Fuck yeah!
This game took years off my life
Ok, NOW, game is over…fucking Eeyores
Lol. To much fun.
Holy shit
holy jumping up and down Martha!
Holy shit!
Some clutch passes by Nolan. I will eat some crow.
Same here. I thought it was over when Fresno went up 23-14.
I was wrong. Happy to be wrong and the Beavs 2-0. I’m sticking with that.
The Beavs suck. Probably gonna lost to Montana St
Ah, the reverse psychology angle
Ok Debbie.
Nolan 10 of 21. His receivers owe him dinner. Offense owes defense dinner with dessert.
This will give beavs confidence moving forward this year
The two things I like about that call:
1. It was to Colletto
2. It punished Tedford for icing our kicker. Teams will think twice now.
What I don’t like: this emboldens Smith’s inner degenerate gambler.
But at least they called the right play this time. If you’re going to be a degenerate, at least give yourself the best odds.
This wasn’t a gamble. We weren’t going to win in overtime. You got mad at him for blowing the Nevada game by being conservative and playing for the field goal. This time he went for the win when he had the chance.
It almost looked like Kefense convinced him to kick the FG, then after Tedford called the TO, Smith’s gambling itch started actin up again
Glad it paid off. Heck of a way to win
Kefense probably told him about the cat and mouse game of having Tedford use his 2 time outs. I would rather lose going for it than losing it in OT and gassing our players even more with winning this game.
He’s fully comped at spirit mountain
Jack Colletto has now reached Bill Brasky levels of legend. This dude is gonna leave not just a hole, but a black hole when he leaves
They’re grooming a new Colletto. Forget the guys name but a LB.
Kord Shaw? I think I saw that name tossed around once?
I think that’s who he is thinking of but it seems like an unconscious bias and another “white husky tough guy kind of role” maybe I’m wrong but as far as I know there is no straight to successor to take over at the moment.
Thats him. Played LB and RB in film I believe. Looked good
Gonna be fun learning a bit about what went on at the end, was JS lobbied by JackHammer the way smilin’ mike was by another RB a few years back?……..Ev Bernard?
Great to start the year with 2 wins over quality opponents. And we haven’t played well. Lots to clean up but we
have won 2 games that in the past we would have lost.
We’ve loss so many close games in the past were 1 or 2 plays changed the game and we couldn’t get over the hump. Definitely a character building moment. We still have flaws but learned how to overcome them tonight. Big win. The Hammer delivers to coup-de-gras.
Jack Colletto for President!
Oladopo 15 tackles – 12 solo
And Oladopo for Vice-President!
Secretary of Defense………
I saw this name come up frequently!
As others have said, it’s awesome to see us win a game like this. The clutch factor- Find a way when the game is on the line. Speaks well for team culture and our prospects for the season.
Goodnight beavos, enjoy the rest after that one. Magical season: intact.
Too amped to sleep yet. And it is 3 hours past my bed time. That was incredible!
Last year it was winning at the coliseum. This year finally winning in Fresno.
Feels good to finally get some of these long standing demons exorcised.
Cougs next?
Anybody anytime anywhere right???
Haener is a legit QB game manager. He may be the most experienced/complete QB we see all season. No turnovers by either team. Not clean penalty wise, but there weren’t a lot of dirty play like there used to be in 2001 and 2003. Tedford throw his clipboard though?
Still haven’t played anywhere close to a complete game yet.
Wannabeav…………still calling it 7-5?
no, OOBie, I’m going to have to bump them up to 8-4 at least, maybe 9-3. like I said five-six hours ago, this was a bellwether game. Not quite in the magical category yet with Angry (who thought the game was lost), but this is easily the best team since the Alamo Bowl squad, and maybe better than them.
Agree — “we can do this”
(for Alex)
Hammer, hammer, hammer
https://twitter.com/BeaverFootball/status/1568851455326715904?t=nP3oTHtLAN6xjp6zBHpokA&s=19
60min hammer, milfs beware
Beavs going to be ranked after this?
Good Lord, I hope it’s many years before the Beavs are on CBS Sports Network again. Those announcers were hideous. Fortunately, the excitement of the game won out, but those idiots tried to ruin it!
Some of the stuff they said was absolute nonsense. I’d rather have no announcers then them
what?
Turn off the sound!
Agreed. The guy kept forgetting to add the State to Oregon State. And the amount of Haener dick riding and Fresno State bias in general was nauseating. Haener is good and I respect Fresno State but fuckin a there are two teams playing.
Given that it’s the Mountain West’s main network, I’m sure there’s some “encouragement” to pump up the teams in the league, especially against Power Five competition. That being said, the announcers were struggling with basic things like getting the down correct, as you mentioned calling the Beavs, Oregon over and over and just weird comments like “Oregon State was wearing down the Fresno defense” when the opposite was true for a big portion of the game. I thought the P-12 was the nadir of announcing, but I was wrong about that!
We’re gonna learn a little more next weekend as Fresno plays USC at the coliseum.
Is Fresno legit and this a good win? How good is USC?
After two games, Beavers still hold the stat of when they have the lead at halftime and score 14 points or more, they win. Onto Montana State!
BYU gets past 9th ranked Baylor in OT.
Still calling it. BYU beats the ducks in Eugene. Next Saturday now
Agree BYU has a great defense and they are a very physical team. Ducks are going to roll over
I’ll just leave this here. Go Beavs!
https://imgur.com/a/BhBIN4I
-Defensive gameplan seemed to be to prevent the deep ball. Lots of deep safety looks and late developing blitzes. It mostly worked, but Haener did a good job finding the gaps over the middle.
-Nolan deep passes seemed to have regressed back to last year’s form.
-Martinez is the next great Beav RB. Fenwick looked more confident yesterday and hit the hole hard, he just doesn’t have the cutting ability to break big runs. Still could be a guy that consistently picks up 8-10 with the right blocking, but our big plays are going to have to come from Nolan and Lindgren’s gadget stuff.
No Lowe yesterday that I saw. Hurt or get passed up?
According to the pregame show he did not make the trip to Fresno. I didn’t hear a reason why.
Hurt.
Uhh what? Nolan threw deep very well this game- none of his guys could catch a ball.
Exactly, he threw the deeper passes well most of the game, and especially in the 4th quarter. That pass to Musgrave was beautiful.
I only watched about half the total game. I saw a few drops, but also saw some misses. Must have just been the wrong sample. PFF seemed to be impressed by him!
Mostly agree, though Nolan’s deep balls were often at least 50/50 balls in catchable placements. He performed the road and that’s what mattered most. Stats show the quantity of penalties were slightly in the Beavs favor, but the quality of the penalties seemed to favor FSU, especially late in the game with some non-calls. Fenwick seemed to accelerate back to the LOS a bit slow, at least late in the game. But he did have >100yds. Seems good at softening up defenders by plowing into them repeatedly.
PFF next day ratings:
-Nolan is the #2 passer in the PAC behind McKee, #17 nationally (ratings seemed to change last week, so he might get some kind of Beaver bump, I guess)
-Martinez is our top-rated RB. Give him the rock!
-Jack is the top FB in the country that doesn’t play for AF or Navy
-Musgrave is #2 TE in the PAC, but his blocking is rough
-Fuaga is the #2 T in the PAC, #9 nationally
-Austin is the #3 CB in the PAC
-Fisher is the #4 LB in the PAC
-Rawls is the #3 DT in the PAC
-Loecher is the #1 P in the PAC
Any update on Rawls injury? Looked fairly bad when it happened.
He was back in the game. Parker said he walked off under his own power without a limp. What about fisher?
Nice. Fisher’s didn’t look as serious. Hope he’s okay, too, but if not they should be fine vs MSU without him. Get him healthy for USC.
Mascarenas could stand to get more playing time. Might be best to give him more snaps next week.
Agree, Musgrave needs to get better at blocking. His footwork absolutely sucks, no drive at all.
Guessing this is only after week 1. Would love to see after it updates.
Nope, this is after week 2
Musgrave is half the blocker and twice the receiver as Quitoriano.
Anyone boarding my 9 win train yet?
since I had this as a loss in the pre-season assessment I have to bump up to 8-4. SC game is the new bellwether. Win that and 10 could be in reach.
I think I’m going to change USC to a loss after watching their QB yesterday. Not sure yet, but I think so. I’d probably change Stanford to a win to offset that.
Clearly didn’t watch the end of sc and furd but watching 1st qtr plus, they definitely were rolling. Much it seemed by capitalizing on tree mistakes. They were up big at the half and only scored 6 in the 2nd half. Let off the gas or slowed down? Don’t think we’ll have that answer for two weeks.
Beavs have a lot of things to clean up, but that was a gritty win last night. They need to continue working on ball security, that shit won’t fly vs $c who will definitely take advantage
Shut up! U can’t just move ur belltwaether game each week.
I’m on the undefeated train every season lol
Great win. This is the type of character building (and lucky) win that every magical season needs. Need to play a lot better though or the Beavs are headed to 7-5. Can’t beat USC or Utah playing like this. WSU, UW and Oregon would be tough.
Wow!!!!
Just watched the DVR of the game this morning. What a freaking game. Holy shit the last quarter was freaking awesome!
That being said, if Our receivers could catch the fucking ball we could’ve won this game without giving me a freaking heart attack.
You didn’t watch live? Time zones? I almost passed out just 1hr ahead. We really need to win games so we get better times.
I was at the Gopher game tailgating at 7 AM in the morning. Long but great day of football, so I decided to watch it when I wouldn’t fall asleep!
Yeah. That game deserved a prime time slot.
Is Angie MILF enough to be Colletto material? I gave her a warning anyway.
https://twitter.com/AngieMachado1/status/1568852098414186496
Grosss! Prime star football player/ aging lady that probably drinks pinot grigio while watching the games. Probably all dried up.
You’ve never been with a woman over 40? I’m sorry.
Haven’t followed what other teams have done, but if any in the back end of the top 25 slipped up the Beavs could sneak in.
#17 Pitt lost and #25 Houston did too. So good opportunity there.
Several other higher ranked teams also lost (florida, NotreDame, aTm come to mind) but I could see them all staying in, even with a couple being bad losses.
ESPN FPI only moved us up one. Nike moved up 12 spots after beating mighty EWU. Go figure.
I think we’ll be fairly high in the receiving votes group, but a close win late at night against a G5 team isn’t going to impress people east of Bend.
Wisky lost and more importantly Houston at 25 lost
Yucks got more votes than beavs last week even after their shellacing, and they are also media darlings who won yesterday.
I dought beavs ‘leapfrog the Disney creation
*doubt
So sad.
I too can’t follow live with these late starts, so glad to have dvr. Great finish, definitely feel like the beavs stole one here! Fresno had a lot of penalties late that really hurt their chances. I thought their qb outplayed ours which normally leads to a win. Is this a future conference opponent? Either fresNo joining pac12 or vice versa. Kinda hurts that they have a larger capacity stadium than reser.
The axe hasn’t fallen in Lincoln yet?
His buyout drops from $15 million to $7 million in Oct. 1st.
Doesn’t the university save 7 million or so by waiting until October 1st with Frost’s decreased buy-out? Maybe that’s just chump change for the Nebraska program?
Apparently it is lol
Frost had some incentive to force them to fire him early. Was going to happen either way, but makes me wonder if he secretly wanted to lose and get the larger buyout money
$7.5million conspiracy theory, I love it!
Can ya have a conspiracy if only one individual is involved?
Any word on musgrave injury?
Came here to ask the same. Would suck if he’s out
Foot on the neck, consistency,
Oladapo says all the right things here:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1568883350626238465
He had some timely huge hits on defense last night which kindof flew under the radar with all of the other heroics. He came up big when it counted
Not by angry and I.
Glad he said put the foot on the neck and keep it there. Let them give up and surrender! Taking the foot off and easing up shows mercy and in a game of football, you show mercy when they surrender.
This team is a different team on the road. Not exactly sure how to put the differences into words, but from the eyeball test, this team will have to find a way to not come out flat on Offense to start the game.
I still stand by my 10-2 prediction with losses to Utah and UW. My hope is, Fresno State doesn’t come out uninspired and flat against USC. I want Fresno State to give USC just as much muster and fits as they gave us. We play Montana State this week and they are not a push over by any means, but we should be able to find a rhythm running the ball and the passing game must improve this week. If there’s more dropped passes this weekend, then our WR group will have gone from strength to weakness in one year. Beavs will be able to hopefully “rest” players this week, but also can’t afford to have another grind out game where we come back, especially against an FCS team.
Went back and looked at the non conference schedule for 2000 season:
EWU 21-19
7-3 at halftime Beavs. Got outscored in the second half 16-14, but won the first half.
@New Mexico 28-20
down 20-14 at halftime. Shut lobos out in second half and scored 14 pts in 4th quarter.
BYE
SDSU 35-3
Went up 21-3 at halftime and cruised to a win.
USC 31-21
Tied 14 all at halftime. Beavs scored TD and FG in 4th quarter then USC scored then Beavs scored final TD.
Just hope we don’t let off the gas against Montana State like we seemed to have done against Boise State. Hard to get the diesel engine fired up again once you’ve allowed it to cool down. I see this offense coming out firing against Montana State because of their final drive against Fresno State.
Bye bye Frosty! More bad news bears for TPB.
https://sports.yahoo.com/nebraska-fires-scott-frost-after-embarrassing-home-loss-to-georgia-southern-172743935.html
Many have been fired by TPB’s, some with winning records and some without. The last one fired without a winning record rode a bike.
Maybe they’ll bring the ‘smiling one’ back.
‘Despite continued losing, Frost was given chance after chance. The Georgia Southern loss proved to be the final straw.’
As expected, no love in the coaches poll. We basically just inherited Fresno’s points.
Late night games on CBS Sports doesn’t help. Rankings don’t matter if the goal is the Rose Bowl anyways. Honestly, we don’t need to get beat by Georgia or B1G team in the CFP anyways.
Couldn’t care less about the coaches poll right now.
There are a few things yet to prove for this team (beyond ending dropped passes and crippling penalties):
1-handle success
2-don’t play down to the competition
3-learn to play from ahead…..foot on the neck
Go Beavs!
Good win. Credit to Smith. Good decisions throughout paid off. MSU is a trap game. Need to focus. Despite the win, I’m less optimistic for the season. The D may be a problem. Worried about ball security with RBs. WRs struggle to catch ball. Musgrave is a talent but also a liability. Drops balls and misses blocks. Hard to imagine this team beating USC
Fresno put up a bunch of yards but they are going to do that all year. They have a good QB with lots of weapons. USC vs FS should answer some questions.
Credit for emphasis placed on ball security; still saw too many instances for my comfort, but overall was better than last week.
Harrison’s TD run was impressive not just because he kept moving laterally, and didn’t give up, but the persistent downfield blocking. Very nice.
As Beaverpride says, its a little concerning that individuals so far have been as bad as they are good. That tends to catch up with teams. They can’t keep saying they’ll focus for 4 quarters “next time.”
That might have been the college game of the weekend, but its the only one I saw, so rely on others here? I actually went to bed after the TD on the reverse, so I can literally say “Don’t sleep on the Beavers!”
Coaching staff takes down another milestone, first win at Fresno State. Well done!
This was an exciting game because we’re passionate about our team. With that said, a game coming down to the wire where a team has the chance to tie or go for the win and this team went for the win. I hope this is the “foot on the neck and keep it there” mentality Olidapo spoke about with Ron Callan. Knowing what its like to have your foot on the neck of your opponent by going out and executing the last play of the game and winning with said play should be a learning experience for this team. Seems like this team is learning what it takes to win on the road. Last season was what it takes to win at home, now its how to win on the road and put them together.
That play was great on a lot of levels. Really nice playcall. Nolan sold the fake really well. Harrison had a really solid individual effort (including patience and good football IQ following blockers) and as mentioned it was blocked really really well. Great team TD.
Nebraska de-Frosting today. Hard to follow the great legacy of Mike Riley.
FOCUS
Might be worth discussing what y’all see when we talk FOCUS.
Team-wide focus seems to show when effort becomes lacking…..like, at times, vs BSU
Individual focus likely figures in to the dropped passes, maybe missed blocks as well.
We didn’t see a lack of effort at all last night, or am I mistaken?
Individual focus seems easier to address for the coaching staff, no?
The staff’s trust in Colletto – and the offensive line – is immense. And Colletto keeps earning it.
Only second game this season and already have seen his name w/ or near ball on offense and defense.
I’m probably going to be late all year with my hot takes,
That was a big win. I had said before if Fresno is within a score near the end of the game and Haener gets the ball back, he’ll be impossible to stop. I was right but Nolan was impossible to stop too. Colletto won the game but Nolan was the player of the game. No really bad throws and he had to deal with a number of drops on easy balls. This felt like his USC game last year. A coming out game of sorts, a win on the road where the Beavs hadn’t won.
For offense, the guys need to be carrying around footballs all day. Receivers too! Too many drops and Fenwick with a lucky bounce to recover his own fumble. Fenwick is showing a lot of burst and looks tough to take down, but clearly has a light grip. Martinez had one good run yesterday. WR are a frustrating bunch so far. Harrison and Bolden showed what the ceiling could be, fast and slippery guys who gain a lot of yards when they get a sliver of daylight. Musgraves is reaching his long awaited potential. Colletto will never be stopped.
OL was expected to do a little worse and did. But not as badly as it appeared. Gave up two sacks and two penalties. No sacks in the second half.
Defense was the extreme version of bend but don’t break. Fresno only punted twice. Making Fresno kick FGs is good but maybe not of 6 them? Oladapo flew around to make plays but having a DB lead the team in tackles isn’t good. Bray did try mix things up and get pressure but Haener was fast to recognize it and adjust. Haener looked like a pro QB in his adjustments. Never looked rattled and was in control of the offense.
No real complaints about special teams other than one punt Luke blasted through the endzone.
Coaching was ok, Bray did enough to give the offense the time to win, Lindgren called a pretty vanilla game vs last week. Smith went with his guts again to go for the win. A make up for going for it earlier and missing badly. S&C coach deserves a big shout out. Only Fresno players went down with cramps.
I don’t think the team will come out of the win and overlook Montana St. Yesterday was a bruiser. They aren’t ranked and don’t deserve to be. If they beat USC, they’ll be ranked. Coaches will need to emphasize MSU is not a tune up and its MSU that’s a ranked team. They need to go out there and dominate on the line of scrimmage all day. Look at the upsets of this weekend and make sure that doesn’t happen.
Punter did out punt his coverage late, sending a line drive directly to the return guy who promptly returned back to around the original line of scrimmage. Thought that was a huge play giving FS really good field position. Other than that, thought special teams played an average game — nothing too big, and nothing too small to hang their hats on.
Martinez had two good runs. One just ended up being longer than the other. He bounces off tackles really well.
Does Nolan’s ball (lack of tight spiral) contribute to the number of dropped balls? He throws a decent deep ball but only if he can step into the throw and use his whole body, doesn’t have a strong arm. Think he took a couple sack yesterday because of the pick versus BSU, and now holding the ball because his arm isn’t strong enough to launch it into the stands without stepping into it. Saw haener launch it into the stands several times to avoid sacks, don’t need a rocket launcher but I’m not convinced Nolan has a strong enough arm to make the necessary throws to win the 9+ games.
Nolan’s balls wobble…
Colleto’s are made of steel.
And Smith apparently uses a wheel barrow to cart his around…
This really is a testosterone-laden team.
Dropped balls are always on the WR if they are above the waist and hit the hands.
Not true Bill. Sometimes his balls need a little more zip and the receivers have to slow up and it allows the defender to mess up the timing of the catch. Tongues drop was terrible.
Amen
#32 in the AP poll. last seven: Marshall, Cinci, App State, K-State, NC, Miss. State, OSU.
I knew they’d fire Frost after that one. They tried to make it to Oct 1st, but that one was too embarrassing. The guy was way over his skies.
Any school that picks him up gets an ace recruiter for dirt cheap
Alabama would be my guess
He sounds like a moron when he speaks and acts like an arrogant prick. Other than that, he is a perfect HC.
Frost sounded like he was asleep in 90% of his pressers and basically said what fans and media wanted to hear without giving details of what they did right and did wrong. Also, Frost can’t develop talent. He tried to get talent and let talent carry the team. They need a coach who will develop players as their next HC.
So odd that Frost was really successful at UCF and now just can’t figure it out at all. It’s not like he was a really good coordinator. He was the head coach in charge of culture, work ethic, etc. I wonder if coming back “home” was too much pressure. Obviously a better conference but he’s had some horrible losses.
Nebraska sucks to live in
He took over a program at UCF that had a huge talent advantage over his conference rivals.
Riding Kelly’s coattails with his offense and by the time he went to Nebraska, the revolutionary aspect of Chips O was over.
Everyone was doing some of it.
For a college kid, ya probably, but as an adult with cost of living, it’s one of the more affordable places to live in the country. I’ve been living in Nebraska for 5 years now and the grass is green in the summer time for my kids to run around and play on, but the winters are longer and colder than Oregon. It’s all about trade offs. It’s not for everyone, but it works for me and my family.
I like driving through NE, especially the northwest part. Very pretty. Surprisingly high elevation, too. I have no idea about living there. Since I bike a lot the wind might become really annoying.
Lincoln is quite bike friendly(not like Portland, but the police don’t enforce tickets with bikes on the sidewalks). It’s not windy in Lincoln to where it whips in your face and pushes you unless there is an opening/clearing from trees and buildings/homes. Lincoln is similar to Beaverton without being crowded by Hillsboro, Tigard, Lake Oswego, Tualatin, and Aloha. There are multiple High Schools.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydCyAHCgHXU
postgame interviews, looks like it was held in a parking lot, kind of weird
How do you guys think last night’s win and decision run Colletto v. kicking for the tie compare to the Beavers’ Sun bowl win over Missouri where Riley went for 2 and the win? Wasn’t that Riley’s only ten-win team, 10-3, with its extra game a win over Hawaii?
Missouri was probably a better team than Fresno State, and this could potentially end up being the best season since that win.
I think it was just about the same logic model. You have a chance to win the game right there. Ev’s run in the Sun Bowl or Colletto last night. This is what people routinely fail to understand about Smith’s decision to go for it Pullman o so many years ago. He had a chance to win it right there. How do the critics of that decision think a program learns how to pull those off? By experimentation. You saw the fruits of Pullman in Fresno last night. Let the down votes rain on.
We could still win 6 games depending on so many conference games that are 50/50. It’s a great start but Washington looks better than last year, wazzu, usc etc. sure some teams are down but we find ways to lose when we shouldn’t. Still a long ways to go for a “beat season in a long time.”
But hasn’t that always been the logic, win the non-cons, then at least split (and preferably better) the pac games? That should give us min of 7 wins. It’s the SEC model, the yucks have employed it too. It’s the main reason to put patsies on the schedule and not travel to body bag games, or even what should be competitive games like Boise or Fresno.
Interview up on sedge is interesting. Smiths logic was “we came here to win the game”…flawed on so many levels. Not worth rehashing since people want to believe in it.
The proper decision was to tie the game, but as I wrote before the play happened I’d be ok if the call was a Colletto run. What makes me have concern is smiths thought process to get to that call, but a run with Colletto was the proper call once you decide to go, so at least he got that right.
Some other interesting bits…Colletto basically says he called the last play. When they asked him if he liked the idea of going for it he clams up and suddenly looks like a deer in headlights. Very interesting.
Not great logic, but there was probably more to it than that. OT is basically a shoot out between offenses. Given a short field, not sure you want to be dueling Haener. Chances of getting two yard with Jack are probably just as good or better.
Okay then, Angry. Because you seem SO sure that playing for OT was the correct call, do you truly think we win that game in overtime? Musgrave was shaken up and who knows if he could have returned. Parker and Wilson referenced on the radio broadcast that Hayes didn’t practice most of the week dealing with an injury, so not only does that make you nervous for the tying kick, but for a potential need for an OT field goal (he shanked one at Colorado last year in OT). You are just so desperate to convince yourself it was a bad decision or a “gamble.” How often have I seen you complain about Smith not making decisions based off the “feel of the game”? This was anything but an analytics decision. He had a perfect feel for this one. We had been outplayed, it was a miracle we were in that situation with 3 seconds to go, so he decided to give it to one of his best players and trusted him to go get 2 yards and win a game that in his mind, they didn’t have a good chance of winning in overtime.
After watching the Steelers vs Bengals, never trust a kicker lol
I don’t know if going to Fresno to win the game is flawed thinking, but it is certainly correct that Angry was in favor of going for the win before the call was made. As was Jim Wilson up in the booth, the smartest guy around OSU football, and yours truly. Actually, if you look at the thread, I suggested Smith was going to go for it when there were THREE plays yet to run.
Okay sure, but he still said right here in this post that the “proper decision” was going for OT.
No I was for the fg, but it’s near 50/50 so I said if they did go for it the only way I couldn’t be critical of that call was if they gave it to Colletto. And I wasn’t. Until I heard smith’s logic!
The best reason to go was Colletto is probably ~90% success rate on that play and Hayes is very erratic. And the d was looking tired (tho not gassed).
But anyway, it’s Smiths logic that’s concerning. Just watch Colletto when they ask about it.
People said musgrave can’t block. What is that based on? Had a great, heady block on both the Bolden run/td and the Harrison td.
I think someone criticized him for poor footwork and not driving on his block or blocks. I think the example is at about the 34 second mark of this highlight video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxWzKntv4h0
Kind of like that the announcer said “He’s in!” well before Colletto was in the end zone. You could he was going to have the path. Beavers line did a nice job.
So glad there wasn’t a holding call on that play…
so did 87 on the final Colletto run
That was a bad block by 87. He held up his hands so he did not get called for holding, but did not get his body on his man, who should not have even been close to the Jackhammer.
He made a great block on the Harrison TD. He isn’t a great blocker on the line especially compare to QT. He often loses positioning battles and struggles with footwork. That said he’s pretty good with releasing off blocks to get into coverage. Nice route runner with average hands. Good speed and size makes him a key target in passing game but I’d say QT will be a better NFL TE.
I don’t think that prediction about musgrave is going to age well.
If Musgrave doesn’t improve his blocking, he’s basically just Togiai. Good athlete, inconsistent hands, “unpolished” blocker.
Togiai has been a fringe practice squad/emergency backup for what, 4 years now?
He’s currently a top 20 NFL prospect at TE as a Junior who is rapidly improving in the passing game. By the time he’s a senior, he might be a 1st or 2nd round draft pick if he keeps this trajectory. That his dad played in the NFL and has ties is going to help him get noticed, too. He’s a much much better prospect than Togiai. Your prediction will not age well.
Im the guy that said he needs to work on his footwork. I saw the block he made on Harrison’s beautiful run. It was a great hustle play by him and he is always blocking downfield when needed. His issue is after intial contact on running plays. He needs work on drive and not letting his man to his outside. Footwork. Not saying anything negative about his talent beyond that. He can play but for the most part the next level wants TE’s that can also block. He will get there.
Our LB’s are still basically worthless in coverage. I guess this is a philosophical thing about what type of guy we want playing the position, but it really hamstrings us against QB’s like Haener that are good at finding what’s there over the middle. Also mobile QB’s and good TE’s. Any team that has those will shred us to pieces.
The short highlight video from this article is fun to watch. Shot from the field, t includes a shot of a pretty stunned and previously loud crowd quietly starting to file out…
https://www.fresnobee.com/sports/college/mountain-west/fresno-state/bulldogs-football/article265579101.html
Full game on YouTube if anyone is interested
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wfUbLrdk9uE&t=5945s&pp=2AG5LpACAQ%3D%3D
Also, drop by Lindsey on 3rd and 7 at around the 6:30 mark left in the fourth was tough but Chance had a receiver wide open for a TD as both defenders went to Lindsey when he made his break outside. Chance played really well but sometimes he misses wide open guys and locks onto receivers.
There were a couple of comments earlier about the next Colletto. On that note, I’m curious to hear your opinions on what makes him so unique/good? Is he super rare and gifted, or is it just the schemes? In other words, if you ran the exact same plays (short yardage wildbeaver, etc.) with Fenwick or Martinez would the results be pretty similar? Or does he bring something to the table that few other players possess? Hoping to hear from some of you that maybe know the ins and outs of football a little more than me–a fairly knowledgeable fan, but one who never played the game.
Ex QB with big brains and size.
Great vision as a ball carrier. He’s a threat to pass or run. The defense has to respect him when he’s in the game. He’s strong enough to run people over and fast enough to outrun people too. Granted we mostly use him as a runner but just the thought of him passing the D has to respect. It’s similar to playing against a triple option team like Paul Johnson when he was at Georgia Tech. All they did was run but the D couldn’t get caught sleeping on the pass and when they did they got burned.
He confident……hits on sideline reporter hotties!
I’ve thought about that question too because he makes it look so dang easy. I think his vision and patience are phenomenal, and he’s exceptional at seeing the play unfold in real time.
As a result, he’s really good at seeing the perfect hole and hitting it decisively at the perfect time. And when he does, he has the speed and size to make a play- but honestly he doesn’t usually need those traits.
I think all of these are correct. Big brain, Ex QB, vision…all correct. He has a really good mix of speed and power, too. Not elite at either, but VG at both, which is rare. Nall had that.
I think that the D knows he was a QB and that he occasionally throws and might throw keeps them just a step behind him, too. D coordinators should just completely sell out and not even cover the WRs…lol. I’d probably put a CB on the WR but do a run blitz from the CB position and try to collapse those edges. I think this would be the smart way to defend Colletto, but luckily they don’t do that.
I would bet there is some RPO available and he can audible to a pass (he’s got the brains to read alignments, and pick holes… I’m sure he can do this too). I also think he’s a mismatch against a CB once he gets a head of steam. Still, it’s pretty remarkable how successful he is at the short yardage thing. I’d scarce call it a gamble anymore.
Thoughts about players…
Colletto will win us games this year. Nolan will win us games this year. Musgrave is an okay blocking on the line, better downfield blocker great receiver. Fenwick quietly had a great game, but needs to secure the ball.
Treshaun Harrison dropped a ball or two, but is scary good with the ball and was clutch in the end! Jesiah Irish played great on special teams and made a great catch late in the 4th. Silas bolden is sneaky fast and good (also haven’t seen drops from him). Andrew chatfield is a very good rusher. Alex Austin is having a better season than Rejzohn Wright in my opinion. James Rawls has played terrific. Sione lolohea #90 played last night and In the snaps he played looked like he could be a difference maker (must be back from injury). Jam griffin looked scared and wobbly to start the game but at the end was in and blocked pretty well and had a good run. Our line was much better in the 2nd half no sacks 2nd, 2 sacks 1st half. (:
Really rough beginning to the season for the MWC. Boise is down, Fresno couldn’t break through, and defending champion Utah St got smacked by Weber State at home 35-7, eliciting boos from the home crowd.
Yeah no shit, strange loss! Is Weber State any good!?