24.Sep.2011 UCLA @ Oregon State (Game Thread)

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The comment areas have been filling up quickly, so this will likely get us to halftime, at which time I'll make a new post.

Sometimes I wake up on game day feeling optimistic…eh, maybe a little more today than mid-week, but not enough to change my pick.

Game note: It'll be nice to see Grant Enger start. This should have happened last season. If he has a good game, it'll be interesting to see if the media asks Riley why he didn't start last year (or this year over Ellis). When Andrews comes back, Enger's experience should relegate Ellis to the bench, which means it won't. Just an interesting side story to follow.

Go Beavs.

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  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    I hope this is worth the effort to dig through the archives and find the link to the stream. I’ll give it a quarter.

    • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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      I liked the intro video.

      But man I hate those mat-black uniforms. Give me the orange with white pants any day. These look so drab on TV.

      • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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        Oh geez…did that song really just day “Ryan Katz is the reason we believe?”

        ouch.

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    Boy the stadium sure looks empty…

  • Ajack says:
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    Hey All link to the stream? Go Beavs!

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    Best video intro ever at the stadium! Jon Smith, Ken Simonton, Sabby, and Steven Jackson in Beaver gear promoting Beaver nation. Very good.

  • angry angry says:
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    Lol, Reuben Robinson whiffs on the 3rd and 2. Dude was not even close.

  • progressivebeav says:
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    Looks like RR is starting over Doctor. lul

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    C’mon boys! Let’s get a drive going!

  • BeavGirl says:
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    so maybe mine eyes deceive me but it seems like they are playing with a teensy bit more fire? probably because of james rodgers return, and oh there’s no pressure (everyone expects them to lose blah blah). hmm feeling hopeful..yikes

  • BeavGirl says:
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    riley looking slouchy and round shouldered as usual

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    That play would have been the perfect time for some play action pass

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Mannion looking really good early on.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Wheaton and Rodgers are both gonna have some monster games

  • progressivebeav says:
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    A QB that reads the defense? wtf is this.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Wow. That is a HUGE fumble.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    James Rodgers got it back for the Beavers? Wow.

  • angry angry says:
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    Ward is garbage. Even before he fumbled he was just running into the backs of linemen. Jeez.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Play calling was not good inside the 5. Typical Langsdorf.

  • angry angry says:
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    Ward looks scared. He is going down before being tackled, running into the back of linemen with no vision, etc. What is the deal? Why is he starting?? Even on the runs where he had holes and tried to juke he ran right into defenders.

  • Lunchpail says:
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    Beavs caught a huge break.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Wow. That is some terrible coverage.

  • progressivebeav says:
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    Watkins, play the ball man. He was right there.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Pathetic coverage.

  • CraigBeav says:
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    These Fox announcers are terrible.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    One time I would like to see a Beavers DB play the ball.

    • WFO WFO says:
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      #3 was playing the ball but the reciever was taller and was in the right spot.

      3 passes for a td. Not good.

  • angry angry says:
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    Leave it to the Beavers to blow a double coverage. Watkins slow to get there–should have been an easy pick or at worst a batted pass. He was actually facing the ball and simply didn’t try to catch it. We’ve given Watkins a pass since he’s new…enough of that. Give Murphy a shot.

  • helmsley says:
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    I loathe the onfield, squeeze-into-the-spaces commercials, awards. They seem so classless.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Mannion tried to do way too much there and forced a really bad throw and it was intercepted. Long game.

  • CraigBeav says:
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    If I have to watch one more of these 3 minute long Foundation for a Better Life / Values.com commercials, I’m going to go steal a purse from an old woman and use the money inside to buy a bunch of pot which I’ll in turn sell to middle schoolers.

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    boy, where was Sean looking? Wow…

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    I need some liquor.

  • progressivebeav says:
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    Was Banker aware that UCLA runs the pistol? We look confused as hell.

  • In their head says:
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    Missing Castro? Should’ve been benched for sac state, not a game that matters.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Is the season over yet?

  • progressivebeav says:
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    We need more Randy The Logger!

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    The beavers are a really bad football team.

  • angry angry says:
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    I hear the chainsaw…

    *blushing*

  • beavis24 says:
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    maybe it has nothing to do with emotion, preparation, desire, heart, etc. Maybe it just comes down to lack of fucking talent……

    • Mckalk Mckalk says:
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      That’s what I kind of think.

    • angry angry says:
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      Definitely the case at RB.

      We don’t have a single legit Pac-12 RB. Ward is a joke…I honestly would rather see McCants, as bad as he is…

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Riley with the challenge!

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    Wow, Sean, wow.

  • beavis24 says:
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    now I’ve seen everything. Two weeks ago a -4 yard punt. Now this. Only the Beavers can do shit like this..

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    Put Katz in!

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    UCLA beating the dog shit out of Oregon State.

  • In their head says:
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    No challenge? FIRE MIKE RILEY

    • progressivebeav says:
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      There is no challenge in college ball. The officiating crew has a guy who can review any play. That’s why we called the timeout; to give him a chance to review.

      • In their head says:
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        There is one coaches challenge isn’t there?

        • progressivebeav says:
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          That may be true, Riley would probably still sit on it.

          • In their head says:
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            That is like the most fundamental time ever to call the challenge. There is no forward fumbles from a throwing motion. As horribly executed that play was, it was not a fumble. Intentional grounding if anything.

          • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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            he challenged a call previously….

  • progressivebeav says:
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    Our cheerleaders look good this season.

  • Beaverbill Beaverbill says:
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    I didn’t get to see the sac game so I don’t know how Agnew gained so many yards. But this o-line can’t rush block worth nothing.

  • beavis24 says:
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    OSU is the worst screen team in the nation. Period.

  • In their head says:
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    3-10. Pass to the flat? Can we just cancel the season now

    • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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      The flat would have been fine. The backfiled, though? Geez.

  • Beaverbill Beaverbill says:
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    At least Hekker looks good. Go figure.

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    this is so sad. Why the swing pass into the backfield. We’ve had sucess down field.

  • CorVegasBeav says:
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    So two New Mexico Bowls in the next 11 years of Riley and him sticking around til 2022 then?

  • beavis24 says:
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    what’s going to happen when Riley shows up for his post-game interview……and nobody else shows up?

  • angry angry says:
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    Beavs might go 0-12.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Jordan Poyer takes a punt to the house. Unreal.

  • BeavGirl says:
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    GOOD JOB POYER

    • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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      There was a straight up pancake, lights out block downfield..hope they show it again.

  • beavis24 says:
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    that just shows how bad UCLA is right there…..and they’re kicking our ass!

  • seaverbeaver says:
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    Angry, your pregame writeup looks scary accurate.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    The Beavers run more routes short of the first down on third than any team I’ve seen.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Not sure about the play calling on the final series but it’s always easy to comment from the popcorn gallery.

  • beavis24 says:
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    how back can Katz be when Mannion continues to throw into coverage and continues to throw 3 yard passes when he needs 10?

    Watching this offense makes me puke.

  • beavis24 says:
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    this is what Riley calls “good decision making?”

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    ProgressiveBeav: Thanks for the link to the video stream! Great Picture.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Wynn with a big stop on third down!

    • angry angry says:
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      The announcers credited Frahm, who wasn’t even near the play…lol

      Wynn needs to play. Henry should be the backup.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Alright!!!

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Blocked field goal by the Beavers. These two teams are just trying to see who can blow this

  • Beaverbill Beaverbill says:
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    Except for the last 3rd down osu rushing d looks non-existent. What happened, these guys looked good against the run before today.

  • Beaverbill Beaverbill says:
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    Mannion starting to look like Katz. Come on young one!!

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Go for it!

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Hate that call.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    I look forward to seeing what the JC punter from Australia can do.

    Why don’t the punters kick for out of bounds (in the corner)?

    • angry angry says:
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      BC he stinks, and would probably miss the ball ala Charlie Brown.

  • beavis24 says:
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    then Hekker kicks it in the end zone. How bad is this team….

  • angry angry says:
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    That is bad coaching…gotta go for that and at least try to give these crappy players some confidence. All for what, 20 yards net punt? If you have a great punter who can pin them inside the 5, okay…

  • CraigBeav says:
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    Riley has balls when he shouldn’t (Washington last season) and no balls when he should (5 minutes ago). I hate him.

  • angry angry says:
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    UCLA is almost as bad.

    This game somehow isn’t over….one more UCLA score should ice it, though.

  • angry angry says:
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    Nice to see Stevenson in there–anyone is better than Ward.

    People on other forums are down on Mannion. He’s made the two bad turnovers, but overall I like his play so far.

    • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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      I agree. people seem to forget it is his first start as a RS Freshman against a Pac-12 team. He’s gonna make some mistakes here and there but he’ll also make some really big plays.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    That throw was not a smart decision but it worked out.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Touchdown Beavers. Big play by Bishop. He might have stepped out though

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Go Beavs!!!

  • BeavGirl says:
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    whoooaa nice jump to the end bishop. that was like 5 yards haha

  • angry angry says:
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    Beavs definitely got a home field call there. First one EVER.

    • BeavGirl says:
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      umm yeah he stepped out but ohhh well i have no problem with that call!

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    WTF (sorry can’t control myself on this one) is up with going for 2 when you’re 7 or 8 yards out?

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Beavers take two steps forward and 2 steps back

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Dylan Wynn just makes huge play after huge play.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Sweater boy is saying who the hell is this guy?

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    May be Beavers ball

  • angry angry says:
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    Clearly stopped him.

    If not, it’s a bad spot and they should challenge.

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    I love Dylann Wynn.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Langsdorf has absolutely no feel for the game.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    If the Beavs win will UCLA make Riley an offer? I can only hope that that’s the case. 🙂

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    Ward has no push – cannot move the pile forward.

  • beavis24 says:
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    How bad is this offensive line?

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    UCLA can run that exact play all game and the Beavers will still be confused.

  • angry angry says:
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    I feel like I went through this with the Sac State game. Come back, choke, counter punch, game over.

  • CraigBeav says:
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    Going for two is going to come back to bite us now that it’s a two possession game. I want our coach to have balls, but again, he should have balls at the smart times.

    • CraigBeav says:
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      (Assuming they take one in for a td)

    • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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      Going for 2 was the right call. It just didn’t work out.

      • CraigBeav says:
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        Absolutely not, way too early to do that when the result of failing means that it becomes a two possession game if the opposing team scores. It’s only ok to do that if the time left is much less than it was

      • CraigBeav says:
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        Or you get the luckiest break ever.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    These two teams are so bad.

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      “…These two teams are just trying to see who can blow this…”

      Believer – you were right on with that call.

  • angry angry says:
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    Pass blocking’s been good.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Looked to me like one of the UCLA DLs threw a punch and got away with it.

  • CraigBeav says:
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    Game

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    That draw play was a horrible play call. God, Langsdorf is so terrible.

  • angry angry says:
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    Even that pass to Rodgers as a horrible play call–he would have been tackled a yard or two short.

    • mckalk mckalk says:
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      Did you notice that Rodgers wasn’t even looking for the pass because he was blanketed? His body language was WTF??? Almost like he was the decoy on the play, but Mannion threw to him anyway.

  • angry angry says:
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    The biggest positive of this game is that Langsdork is one game closer to being fired.

    Mannion looked good, too, and the pass protection was actually great. Special teams was great. D laid another egg.

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      “…Mannion looked good, too,…” Agree. Looks to me like the kid has an opportunity to be very good. BUT he needs a good/great OL in front of him. NOT A BUNCH OF WALKONS.

      • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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        Not on the wagon yet. There were opportunities to tuck and run. Mannion looks hilarious when he attempts anything more than a brisk walk. How can he be so slow?

        • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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          I’m thinking that since Mannion is so green he gets some slack as he’s getting accustomed to the speed of college football. I thought he showed a heck of a lot of poise considering how inexperienced he is. I like his accuracy and the way he’s going through his progressions, considering how new he is to the game. It’s a shame that he has to be thrown into the deep end of the pool at this stage of his career but imo he’s the best option the Beavs have at QB.

      • numbers says:
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        Mannion is just fine for a qb in his “first” start. Brain dead play calling will make anyone struggle

  • beavis24 says:
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    We don’t need a backup QB. We have two fine backup QB’s in Ryan Katz and Sean Mannion. What we really need is a starting QB….

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Hate to sound like a broken record but imo Langsdorf is Riley’s creation and nothing more than that. And Riley apparently isn’t capable of making the necessary changes.
    bwdik

  • Noah says:
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    You know they are going to run up the middle, and what do we do?

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    FIRE BOBBY D & RILEY!!!!!!

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    Well, at least rifle elk and deer season is only a couple weeks away…

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    This team is so bad. 0-12 is likely. IMO UCLA is the second worst team in conference and they just beat the worst.

  • CraigBeav says:
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    I hate Riley’s shit eating grin. We lost, and it’s not ok to look happy afterward. Fucking lazy non-caring aw-shucks dick head.

    • Beavocalypse says:
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      Haha. I expressed similar rage the other loss and was told that I had no right to question Riley and his character. What he’s doing is embarrassing for his team and the fans. And not making anyone accountable shows a complacent attitude and poor character. As long as Banker and Labeled are here I will continue to question Riley’s integrity

  • CorVegasBeav says:
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    When are we going to get honest with ourselves and demand a new head coach?

  • SadBeaver says:
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    Some of the worst play calling on critical situations I have seen in a long time. They shouldn’t wait till the end of the season.. Fire Langsdorf now. Although the defense looked almost as bad.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    I want this season over now.

    • angry angry says:
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      Just think, in a few weeks we’ll have to deal with this AND basketball.

  • angry angry says:
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    Should I create a Fire Langsdork petition?

  • Beaverbill Beaverbill says:
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    We should put a nationwide ad out that says play football for osu! Your chances to play right away are very good!!

  • Warren says:
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    It’s amazing to think that we had more yards than UCLA in this game too. Horrible play calling and turnovers really hurt us today.

    • WFO WFO says:
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      No surprise.

      Other than rushing yards the stats vs wisconsin were remarkably close.

      Except that the team that can excecute in the red zone had 35 points.

  • Beaverbill Beaverbill says:
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    I do think that for a freshman mannion did good. Our rush blocking and running backs suck. Wynn is a young stud. Good to see Rogers back. All that said, I hate football.

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    Was there not the possibility to go deep with Wheaton or even Rodgers on just one play? That was some of the most unimaginative play calling I have ever seen. Even using Terron Ward on the 4th down was idiotic if anyone had noticed his performance throughout the game i.e. having absolutely no field awareness and falling down at the slightest touch. Man, this is a sick feeling to have a season over by game three. I never thought the program would fall so hard so fast.

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    Subscribing, but not sure why.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Parker seems to be flubing his lines. Has he been eating napkins again?

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    You guys can give it to me…..but at this point it might be more interesting to go 0-12 just to see what happens. 2-10, 3-9, are kind of boring and I doubt create much change.

    • Mcfly says:
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      No I agree, I think 0-12 will cause a giant uproar

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      In fact, I think 0-12 is not actually out of the question based on who we play. I don’t see us even beating washington state, I think they look decent this year.

      • numbers says:
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        I disagree, I see us winning 2-4. And no progress made at play calling. I worry about our D against some better teams. Having big #98 back will be good. I loved watching him chasing that Wisconsin QB (even if it was only to wear himself out). Whats the deal with McCants. Still in trouble over the fumble-itis 3 years ago? 3-9 sucks. And 3-9 is the type of record to keep our geriatric fan base from being vocal for change.

        • Mcfly says:
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          And who are these 2-4 wins against from, honestly? The only possible wins would be (maybe) WSU and Utah.

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            Ok, I take it back. I thought maybe Arizona, Cal and one of the Washington schools or a prayer with one of the Utah schools. But watching the late game tonight, and Arizona has way too much fire power for the Beaver D. Sad

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    In the LSU loss season, even when the Beavs were 1-4 it felt different and you knew there were teams that the Beavs would beat on the schedule. I think WSU is the only possibility unless Arizona continues to implode. Can you imagine what Luck is going to do to this secondary?

    • beavis24 says:
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      I witnessed it first hand at the 38-0 embarrassing loss last year! And it won’t get any better this year.

  • numbers says:
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    And fire Bobby D. Why am I watching Fresno State at Idaho on HD after watching the first PAC-12 conference game in a pixilated Dam Cam version on my computer??? WTF that is on Bobby D

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    Just sat through Riley’s post game. He got 2 standing ovations. I am disgusted in the fan base of the school I chose to support.
    I will have feedback on the taste of that Aviation gin soon.

    • mckalk mckalk says:
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      Standing ovations for what????? Accomplishing something that Pettibone did in ’96 (0-3 start). Good lord, are we in some bizarro world where the head coach of a D-1 football program in not held accountable to anyone?

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        Beaver fans feel to me like brainwashed, scared to speak-out pussies

  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    Just back from Reser. In the stands, it felt more lopsided than the score indicates. Even though the Beavers had more total yards than UCLA, it felt like UCLA was the stronger team all game. Maybe that’s because UCLA was able to run the ball down our throats whenever they felt like it, and was also able to stifle our running game.

    No running attack + Inability to stop opponent’s running attack = Loss. Football 101.

    Except for the two careless turnovers, I thought Mannion played well. And he’s only going to get better. QB is not the problem (in fact, it’s probably going to be one of our strong points very soon….)

    The obvious problems are our anemic running attack and our porous run defense.

    Getting Agnew back should help our running attack (if Agnew can stay healthy). But we still need better run-blocking and better play-calling. Doubtful that our o-line is going to improve much in that area this season. As for the play-calling, Riley can change that whenever he wants, but will he?

    Getting Masaniai back should help our run defense (as we saw against Wisconsin). But I doubt that will suffice. We need more Dylan Wynns and fewer Ben Motters, more Michael Doctors and fewer Rueben Robinsons. And we need a defensive coordinator who can make adjustments to stop teams from gaining 5 to 7 yards on the same damn running plays all game.

    A bowl game is obviously not going to happen this year. But it’s worse than that. If we don’t improve our running attack and our run defense, 0-12 is now quite possible. Coach Riley — it’s your move.

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    My girl won club level seats to the game, so we went.

    Ward was terrible. Stevenson, who was the primary runner in the second half, actually moved the ball, but that may have been a result of good blocking, not good running.

    But our D’s refusal to adapt to a simple HB Dive was absolutely infuriating. For 4 quarters, that is all they did, and we did nothing to stop it. We continually had a corner and a LB on the weak side of the ball where there was no receiver at all, creating a huge imbalance that UCLA took advantage of. That’s just horrid coaching.

    Also, we had a safety in perfect position to pick that first TD pass, and he ran clear behind the WR and did nothing. Remember when we had playmakers back there? Maybe Poyer would be an insane safety.

    All-in-all, both coordinators need to go, and if Riley doesn’t see that, sad as it is to say, so does he.

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    And here are the Ducks on ESPN…

  • angry angry says:
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    Really want to see Skotte go somewhere else. He’s Reuben Robinson part 2.

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    Watching ASU and USC. Both look good but I have been real impressed with ASU this year. If they come with the same game to OSU it is going to be a blow-out. Somebody in the PAC-12 will put up 40 to 50 points on the Beavs before season’s end.

    To bad Rogers couldn’t have held out until next year…. maybe that will be the year we win one.

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      Somebody? I can think of at least 3 teams that will do it. Somebody will likely hang 60.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Even though both Arizona’s D-LIne and O-Line are awful and their linebackers are slow, they have a good offense and that offense will absolutely shred the Beavers nonexistent pass defense with ease. The Beavers will score some points but UA can score 40+ without much issue on the Beavers. These next two games I expect both teams to get over 500 yards total offense with ease.

    • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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      Yeah, just finished watching ASU whip USC and OU whip AU. I take back what I said earlier… someone, maybe several will but up over 60 points on the Beavs.

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    Arizona has a pathetic defense, but does anyone think that Langsdork with device a game plan that will take advantage of it in anyway?

    • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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      Nope. The Beavers will make some plays and score some points on Zona, but they will also miss on a lot of other points against Arizona thanks to atrocious play calling. I think Zona will beat the Beavers 42-24

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Anyone have the link to Riley’s post-game nonsense? I want to hear what BS, “We played hard, showed some progress, etc” he brings. Oh, by the way, we lost to terrible UCLA.

  • WFO WFO says:
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    I was blown away by a stat tonight:

    Since 1992 Kansas State is 50-5 in the month of september under Bill Snyder.

    Granted,they schedule lots of patsies and mostly at home…but the fact remains that a good coach properly evaluates the talent on hand and gets those players ready for the field BEFORE the season starts.

    • OSU4Life says:
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      Kansas State beat Miami!

    • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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      Wasn’t Bill Snyder a candidate for the Beavers head coaching position in the early-mid 90’s? I seem to remember hearing something about that.

      From 1997 through the 2003 season, Bill Snyder won 72 games and won 11 games in a season 6 of the 7 seasons. If he were to do now what he did then he would have had likely 6 BCS appearances. He should have had a trip to the BCS Title Game vs Tennessee or FSU in 1998 but he received some really bad luck against A&M in Big XII Championship.

      Just for Bill Snyder to win 11 games in a season 6 out of 7 years in the Big XII with Kansas State of all teams is pretty incredible. He didn’t have huge loads of talent but his teams were always fundamentally sound, had the right amount of focus, well coached and always prepared. Pretty much the opposite of what OSU has right now.

      K-State went into Miami and won a game on the road against a much more talented team coming off a confidence building win against Ohio State. His team came in prepared, focused and were obviously well coached. If Oregon State went on the road to play Miami, no matter what year it is, it would be without a doubt a double digit loss, if not a 20+ point loss. The Beavers have more talent than K-State but are nowhere near as prepared or well coached.

      That’s probably what makes what we are seeing even worse. Teams that have less talent than the Beavers are clearly far superior as a team to the Beavers. That is coaching. UCLA is a very poor coached team but the Beavers make it look differently.

  • OSU4Life says:
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    I like the petition idea. I also think fans must make their voices heard on other websites as well. I think many of the sports writers aren’t asking the tough questions, the media should be the voice of the fanbase. Not let the coaching staff or administration off easily. I bet Bob DeCarolis didn’t think 1-11 in 2011, or 0-12 by 2012 sounded like a good fundraising opportunities. It doesn’t have the same ring as 12,000 by 2012. Kiss that idea goodbye! OSU will be lucky to have 1,200 by 2012! I’m disgusted, and because I don’t want to see OSU in the cellar, it doesn’t make me a lesser fan! Real fans will NOT accept what is happening with OSU football period.

  • Mckalk Mckalk says:
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    I was checking out the Corvallis Gazette and Cliff had the nerve to use the phrase “instant gratification” in commenting on fan frustration. I kind of take that as an insult considering the thoughtful opinion I read here. I wonder if he reads this blog? I guess he can keep his head in the sand forever to maintain his lame insider access.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Riley and his staff have demonstrated an inability to learn how to: 1) win early in the season, 2) implement a defensive scheme that allows defensive backs to play the ball AND to adapt to, and effectively neutralize spread/option offenses; 3) make offensive adjustments within a timeframe that allows them to compete in, or win, games. There is a disturbing trend of all three of these factors worsening and becoming demonstrably more consistent; they are trends, not anomalies. The Civil War this year is going to be a huge embarassment for the players.I won’t be purchasing season tickets again or attending games at OSU until:

    Riley and staff take demonstrable efforts (e.g. retreats) in the off-season to learn from other coaching staffs strategies for early season success;

    Riley either tells Banker to change the way he teaches and implements his scheme, or he removes Banker; and

    Langsdorf’s play calling responsibilities are suspended.

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    From the oregonian: “OLB Rueben Robinson started in place of Michael Doctor because of his bulk and the fact he was once a MLB. “We knew they were going to pound it at us,’’ explained Riley”

    Wow, nice strategy coach -put a slower player in there who can’t shed blocks or tackle because he couldn’t win a job at MLB.

    If memory serves, Robinson now has 3 tackles this season. Doctor had 4 in this game alone.

    When I raised concerns about Robinson moving to the outside, people thought (hoped) he’d be buried on the depth chart there…but no, its another stubborn move by Riley, who can’t admit they mis-evaluated a player and simply put the guy on the damn scout team.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Interesting note: The Beavers have scored fewer points this season than the Ducks scored yesterday. OSU is second-to-last in the nation in pass defense – and the secondary was going to be a team strength.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Than the ducks scored saturday….not yesterday. All though, yesterday, the ducks scored as much as OSU did at wisconsin..

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