24.Nov.2012 Civil War Oregon @ Oregon State

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Game thread.

Go Beavs

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  • orangejulius says:
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    Orange jerseys, white pants…ugh. Did they lose the black pants in the laundry?

  • FatDog says:
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    I have a good feeling about today. Here’s how it goes:
    The beavs jump out to an early 7 point lead because the dux have not used all of their uniforms this season and they are distracted by having to change into 10 new ones during time-outs. Then, the helmets start stacking up. Which goes with which? Does the chrome one go with the human highlighter outfit? Does the stealth black go with the chartreuse pants and gray top? What about the one that changes colors? Where is that “dress the dux football player” app? Then, with seconds to go and a chance to tie and send the game into overtime, the dux put on their last uniform. It is, oh my god, orange! The only color the dux have not yet used. With both teams in orange, Mariotta throws an interception to Poyer and he runs 99 yards for a beaver touchdown. The beavs win 14 to 0. Chip Kelly, distraught, runs on to the field and in a fit of anger rips off his jersey and reveals he does indeed need a man bra. Very much so.

  • ncaa_violation says:
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    Go beavs
    not raining too hard yet but its starting. Nice relaxed atmosphere on reser right now. Calm before the storm?

  • Mud&Sticks says:
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    GO BEAVS!!!

    And FTd!!!

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Chip is incredulous that the refs would DARE to call a hold when his player obviously holds.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Beavs looking slow.

  • angry says:
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    Yikes, this is going to be a long day.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Containment FTW. Good work linebackers, you idiots.

  • mckalk says:
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    Good god, it looks like too much speed already.

  • angry says:
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    Crowd sounds flat, team looks flat. Nice work, Riley.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    The refs just pointed out that the UO system is basically built so that a retarded QB can run it; 1 read, then if it isn’t there, take off.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    KO return for the ducks out to the 40, we get to the 15 ugh

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    That was one of the worst returns I’ve ever seen. Brought the ball out to about the 12.

    Looks like that “hold them below 20″ gameplan isn’t going to work. Time for the shootout.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Enger not in, not a good deal

  • mckalk says:
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    I really don’t know why you kick off to them if you win the toss? I do think that P-12 coaches need to keep up the holding bitching for the weeks and years to come.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Two throws to start the game. Classic Riley.

    I fully expect a “We needed to be more balanced, establish the run more” in about 2 hours.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    5 straight passes including the penalty-play that was also a pass. Just wow, Riley.

  • angry says:
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    Does anyone have another link? This one keeps crapping out.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    especially with 2nd and 5.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    We’ve had NO stops when they’ve run so far. They run 62% of the time, just stack the goddamn box! Jesus.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    4th and 2, and Barner runs for about 30 yards. Amazing. Nice D guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • orangejulius says:
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    WTH, 4th down run for 30?

  • mckalk says:
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    Absolutely no penetration

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    That’s what stanford got last week, TFL

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Our secondary is the best in the Pac12. Put 8 guys in the box(1 safety) and make them beat us 1v1 on the outside.

    Or keep trying to play “Normal” football and watch Barner/Mariota run for a million. Whatever.

  • orangejulius says:
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    Riley game plan apparently is don’t run, and don’t stop the run. Not a winning formula.

  • FatDog says:
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    He missed.
    That helps.

  • orangejulius says:
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    Still hate this announcing crew…with all that revenue why can’t the pac-12 afford better?

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Now there’s chopped salad

  • WFO says:
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    Flailbackers.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    wow, I was just going to say chip would go for it

  • orangejulius says:
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    Riley shows he DOES have balls. Congrats coach.

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    The whole field and Riley calls up the middle twice in a row. Same old shit.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Storm screwed up the 3rd down, according to the announcers. Not surprising. Can’t wait to see how the RB competition plays out in the spring and fall with Brown, Ward, Storm, and Agnew.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Ball on target and goes huge

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    I like the plays Riley is running where Wheaton makes double-moves and jukes. UO’s secondary gambles and jumps routes too much, and this can take advantage of it.

    Also good work by the OLine so far giving Mannion time.

  • orangejulius says:
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    Look, the run works. Who would have thought of that?

  • mckalk says:
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    They new that run play was coming.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    can’t believe nobody was open

  • orangejulius says:
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    “Please don’t block the DE on this pass play”

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Protection fail, now we punt after a promising drive dies. Classic job by our offensive line, killing the drive. Happens 1-2 times per game.

  • HopefulBeav says:
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    Ugh Kelly sucks. So glad he’s the only senior on the offensive line. I don’t know how Mannion didn’t die last year with Kelly and Remmers playing the tackle spots.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Total yds so far 147 to 34

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    Nothing new, same Riley game plan. If we don’t sustain a good drive and score our defense is going to get worn out and that will be it. By golly, gee wiz, shucks, darn.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Mariota can’t throw so maybe we should make him throw?

  • orangejulius says:
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    Nice penetration, but where is the tackling? Are you kidding me.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    UO runs it all over us, so what do they do this drive? 3 passes. The spirit of Mike Riley compels you!

  • mckalk says:
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    It’s been three years since a Beaver has really stepped it up in the Civil War. Kostol should have buried that punt inside the 10. I’m starting to buy into Angry’s psychology theories.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    SPECTACULAR CATCH BY COOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    nice pass, better catch

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    red zone offense, yuck

  • orangejulius says:
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    Play action works, and you get those one on ones…but only if you run the ball

  • orangejulius says:
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    And look…punch them in the mouth, run the ball, and more good things happen.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    TOUCHDOWN BEAVERS!!!!

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    OK, OK, nice score.

  • HopefulBeav says:
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    I know he doesn’t always read his blockers perfectly (I miss Quizz), but I love the aggressive running Woods has shown so far.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    what happened to Romaine kicking it out of the endzone?

  • HopefulBeav says:
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    Crowd looks awesome as well. Love that the announcer says it looks about 98% OSU fans.

    • orangejulius says:
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      Driving thru town there was a lot of piss and green though, very tempting to slip off the brake onto the accelerator

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Can we at least cheat our safeties up? They aren’t throwing over the top of Poyer and Reynolds, and Barner is still just killing us. KILLING US.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Barner with 105 yds in the 1st Q. But we’re ahead on the scoreboard. Might be a strange day in Corvallis.

  • orangejulius says:
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    GD, can someone please light Marriotta up with a devastating tackle

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    you can’t play that soft Martin

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Dammit Martin! You Bosh.

  • Mud&Sticks says:
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    Apparently they like running to their right.

  • FatDog says:
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    I enjoyed our lead while we had it.
    Probably last time.

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    Miss tackles, miss tackles and more miss tackles. Defense looks like shit.

    • orangejulius says:
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      Well they play well up until 4th down…

      Good stop, good stop, good stop, whoops

  • orangejulius says:
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    Ward>Marable

  • mckalk says:
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    Crichton had Mariota, it’s going to be one of those plays.

  • orangejulius says:
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    Ugh, don’t see #2 drop often

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Wheaton COMPLETLEY blew that pass. amazing. I’m so pissed right now.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    FUCK YOU YORK YOU”RE GARBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • orangejulius says:
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    Damn same run play they scored td on…hello Mr. Banker

  • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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    Missed sack on 4th down

    Dropped 3rd down conversion

    Two gimmes in two possessions. That’s how you lose football games

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    Another play calling failure.

    • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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      No its not you dumbfuck. Rileys doing fine he drew up a beautiful play on 3rd down that Wheaton dropped. We’re losing the game because players can’t play.

  • orangejulius says:
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    Blocking and tackling win football games.

    So far Blocking, meh
    Tackling, terrrrrrrible

  • mckalk says:
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    When is a Beaver going to step up in a Civil War?

  • orangejulius says:
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    Geezus

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    That’s the ballgame, not getting it done. Too many mistakes.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    No damn tackling either. Just wow. I hate this game already.

  • Mud&Sticks says:
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    Better athletes wearing slime green and yellow.

    Riley can’t recruit worth a fuck

  • HopefulBeav says:
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    So many missed tackles. The schemes don’t seem to be the problem. We have guys in position to make the play but they’re missing. So frustrating.

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    How man more miss tackles…….??????????????????????
    Sure looks like another embarrassing year for OSU.

  • progressivebeav says:
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    Fuck Mike Riley

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    282 yards offense for the ducks and we aren’t halfway thru the 2Q

  • Mud&Sticks says:
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    Wonder if this was another year where Riley didn’t bother with having any tackling practices?

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    It’s one thing to lose a good game, like Canfield’s last year. It’s another to miss tackles, blow sacks, and blow wide-open catches for first downs. If this continues, I won’t finish this game. Better things to do than watch one team not show up.

  • jailbreakBeav says:
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    we need an answer. if so I like our chances.

  • angry says:
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    Apparently ostriches don’t lay the biggest eggs after all. Congrats, Riley.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Ward has been one of the few bright-spots so far. Great returns on bad kicks.

    • orangejulius says:
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      Proof that the coaches aren’t totally clueless, they replaced Marable with Ward. Now if only they would follow the rest of our advice

  • mckalk says:
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    I’m not that upset at Riley/Banker. It’s player execution so far in this game. OSU stars are whiffing, what can you do?

  • Mud&Sticks says:
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    Piss poor throw

    Yet another indication of a weak/sore arm?

    • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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      Another indication that Mannion frequently decides who he’ll throw to before the snap and then throws it to him anyways even into double coverage.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Mannion throws the pick. Great work.

    His last 3 games, he now has something like 6 TDs and 12 INTs. It’s absolutely horrible. Add another one now.

  • orangejulius says:
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    Here’s where you earn your money get a stop NOW!

  • orangejulius says:
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    FINALLY, OSU wrecks a duck player, finally.

  • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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    Mannion doing what he does best. Who knew the ducks DBs had bettter hands than our WRs?? I guess we should’ve just assumed. Classic beavs

  • angry says:
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    Mannion / DA strikes.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Barner will be back, just got the wind knocked out of him

    • orangejulius says:
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      Mediots say they are looking at his ribs, hopefully more than just wind knocked out of him

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    12 years and and another toilet bowl. What a joke. Riley keeps his job, gets another extension, and the fans get total shit.

  • orangejulius says:
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    Every duck should look like Barner coming off the field, get physical Beavs!

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Wide open receiver in the middle of the field. I’m about done with this game.

  • beavis24 says:
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    Why is it that other teams make it look so easy, and we seem to make it look so hard??

    • mckalk says:
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      It’s “Luck O’ The Beavs”….why does Jackson catch that high snap instead of letting it go over his head…..”Luck O’ The Beav”!

  • orangejulius says:
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    third time with that play and Beavs finally stop it

  • mckalk says:
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    I haven’t heard Poyer’s name mentioned yet.

    • OneEyedKing says:
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      Just “Receiver came over the middle and Poyer, the nickel back, had to cover him, leaving the TE open.”

      Running a zone when we have the best pair of CBs in the Pac12. Brilliant as always.

  • mckalk says:
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    In a positive way

  • angry says:
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    Beavs only change to get back in this game is to score A TD before half, then score A TD on the opening second half drive. Anything short of that and I fear the floodgates will open.

  • Mud&Sticks says:
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    Riley, Langsdork and Banker:::::::: WHAT A TEAM!!!

    • mckalk says:
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      I still say it’s the players that have f-ed it so far. They have been in position to make some positive outcomes and have choked.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Great blocking and great run. Let’s see if Riley forgets and immediately throws 5 times now.

  • Mud&Sticks says:
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    That’s it Riley run Woods until he tires out.

    Way to fucking go! NOT!!!

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Ward just LEVELED that guy. Can we put him in at safety?

  • orangejulius says:
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    Ward not ‘fast’ but damn he runs hard

  • Mud&Sticks says:
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    Holy shit they’ve got Ward in there. Woods must be hurt?

  • orangejulius says:
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    guess Barner had more than ‘wind knocked out of him’

  • mckalk says:
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    Never a sense of urgency, do they even have a no huddle?

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Can we line Storm up any further back before we run a dive up the middle? Jesus.

  • orangejulius says:
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    If you can’t get 6 inches, you don’t deserve the ‘W’

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    they needed to snap the ball quick, before the safety comes up

  • Mud&Sticks says:
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    What happened to the QB sneak?

    • OneEyedKing says:
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      Never ever, can’t let the Golden Boy get touched!

      Even though he’s 6’5″ and a sneak is an easy first. Now it’s 4th and several, instead of first down.

      Keep running straight into a 9 man box though, Riley. Sick fucking work.

    • orangejulius says:
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      Mannion is 6-4, Riley afraid he can’t fall 6 inches forward

  • Mud&Sticks says:
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    Let me guess. A pass for 3 yards when they need 4?

  • angry says:
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    Any reason Riley didn’t challenge that spot? Oh yeah, another year on his contract for each timeout he takes into the half.

  • dickassman says:
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    lmao 69

  • FatDog says:
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    Fucking sloppy.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    crushing 5 yard penalties

  • orangejulius says:
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    Yes, a false start, perfect timing. Come on, you’re the home team

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    And offside again. FUCK ANDREWS!!!!!!!!!!! Fucking graduate already you fucking scrub.

  • orangejulius says:
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    30 seconds left can we hurry up a bit

  • orangejulius says:
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    Are we out of time outs?

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    Shit, if Riley had just called QB sneak with inches we might have had it. He did same thing against UW. Just pure piss poor play calling. What an idiot.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    NO TIME OUT???

  • mckalk says:
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    Some of the upperclassmen babbled all week about how much a win would mean, but obviously they are overwhelmed by the moment.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    PISS POUR CLOCK MANAGEMENT

  • ObjCritic says:
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    I shouldn’t watch. Each time I check in, seems like bad things happen.

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    We are not going to beat the ducks with field goals. But that’s all Riley can produce.

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      Yeah we should just go for a touchdown there and end up with no points at all. Man I sure wish you were on the sidelines today.

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        Beavs could have gone for TD if they hadn’t wasted so much time, ie poor clock management, again

  • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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    All doom and gloom aside, if we can get points after the half we got ourselves a game. If Barner can’t return then were in business. DAT may be explosive but he doesn’t have half the vision Barner does.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Well, the D gets rest. Better come back to wrap up and hit hard.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Definitely should have called the TO with 30 seconds remaining, instead of letting the clock tick down and saving it in-case we needed to set up our FG. Judgment call, but a bad one.

    20-10 at the half. Basically everyone has had bright spots and blown plays, same with UO, but they’ve gotten the big plays and we haven’t. Also 1 TO to 0.

  • mckalk says:
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    It’s funny, but I thought to myself that they would piss away time and settle for a FG.

    Also, will Chip be able to get the same quality of Meth when he’s with the Chargers?

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    It was like Riley was so afraid that the ducks were going to get the ball back he didn’t want to manage the clock to put us in position to score.

    • angry says:
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      That’s exactly what I saw. But you never know…since he is so bad at clock management, he might have just thought that’s how to play out the half. Not one shot at the end zone. Really bad coaching.

      • mckalk says:
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        It’s something with “Luck O’ the Beavs” because Ericksen was a shitty clock manager also. So Riley went into half with a TO in his pocket, right?

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    Beavs are going to play “catch-up” football the rest of the game because Riley always waits until last few minutes of game to get aggressive and try to pull game out. Same old shit.

  • Mud&Sticks says:
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    It looks like the fucking Pac-12 just shut down the Just In stream and maybe the first row stream too.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    BTW, really dumb idea to defer when we won the coin flip. UO feeds off scoring first, and they’ve done it 7 out of 10 weeks. And then did today.

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      on’t particularly have a problem with it, god guys get ball to start 2nd half, build momentum

  • jailbreakBeav says:
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    Ten points a half ain’t going to cut it. I say 28 points gets us the game. Can we find the O?

    • jailbreakBeav says:
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      28 more points excuse me.

    • Mud&Sticks says:
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      Imo it’s going to require better play calling and the chances of that happening are somewhere between slim and none. But then I then to be overly optimistic.

    • OneEyedKing says:
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      A big drop by Wheaton and INT by Mannion killed two drives, so we could have 20 this half if we’d have played well.

  • WFO says:
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    This game is 100% on the defense not tackling in space. The offensive play calling has been decent and I almost shit my pants at that fake punt.

    If the defense keeps flailing instead of wrapping up there’s no chance.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Wow, OSU 1/6 on third downs…

    UO not great on 3rd….

    Penalties advantage OSU…

    Sacks even….

    TO advantage UO…

    The big difference is Barner so far. Somebody should have suggested keying on him stopping him.
    UO only about 100 yards away from their CW rushing average, with a half to go.

    Will Mark “The Adjuster’ Banker come through at half time?!? Guesses anyone? Kelly must LOVE playing against Banker.

    Riley CANNOT win pressure games, and his players are reflecting his inability to respond to pressure.

    • Fightingbeaver says:
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      I agree. Riley can’t prepare for a game like this. I have to give credit to WSU and Stanford for their coaches preparing the team to play and win their games. Hip, hip…..hurrrrrrrey……

    • OneEyedKing says:
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      Like Wisconsin, UCLA, or Arizona this year? Arizona especially, being down to a ranked opponent in the last few minutes.

      I’m not saying its likely, but it isn’t rare, either.

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    Defense has to step up and make TACKLES! If Oregon gets another touchdown or two, its all over. Here Beavs are home team wearing white fucking pants. Oregon has more black on their uniforms than we do. We have to score 7 not 3 and each possession has to count.

  • mckalk says:
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    I think some Beav players missed big opportunities to be stars and Riley “head-scratched” again with time management at the end, but it doesn’t feel hopeless like the last couple of years. If they score out of halftime I will be impressed, but unless the defense can get two turnovers, I think a “W” will be out of reach.

    • steveEbeaver says:
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      If Barner doesn’t play the second half then Moriarty will need to throw the ball and our lock-down corners need to come up with some big plays to turn the game around. Without regaining the turnover battle I don’t see us coming back.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    I’m sure BDC doesn’t want to get too much into coaching details in evaluating Riley on an annual basis, but how cannot he not look at Riley’s empirically poor clock management and say “You have to improve here Mike. This isn’t acceptable?”

    • mckalk says:
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      BDC should reduce Riley’s contract by one year for every game where he doesn’t use his timeouts in the first half.

  • orangejulius says:
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    duck leading receiver is Lyerla with 26 yards, can we please put the dbs in one on one and commit to stopping the run

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Nice start, trip yourself

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    this steam sux!

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    That pass was not even close to a receiver. Garbage throw, Mannion.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    It’s Harrington time

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    This announcer is dumb, that was a HUGE pass interference; the CB was all over him the entire play.

    Just shut up moron.

  • orangejulius says:
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    Did Wheaton steal Mannion’s girlfriend or something?

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    WIDE OPEN AGAIN!!!!!!!

    Wheaton is torching them, as long as he can catch the damn ball lol.

  • Mud&Sticks says:
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    late throw

  • beavis24 says:
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    Wheaton needed to get in. A TD is not a foregone conclusion….

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Good clock management and we take the lead here.

  • orangejulius says:
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    Good swing in momentum, let’s see if Banker made adjustments and/or they did any tackling drills at halftime

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    This is where we need a turnover……put momentum on our side and then score again. I want an interception……..now!

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Need to put Barner to the turf if he comes back in

  • angry says:
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    This is where, historically, teams feel their in the game and have room for error. Beavs need to clamp down here more than ever, though. This is a key drive for the D coming up.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    There’s a second half adjustment…. don’t let DAT handle the KO

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    What the hell was that kick, some kind of trick? Like a really bad onside?

  • ObjCritic says:
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    What’s with Mannion’s arm?

    Remember the CW where Maevao(sp?) threw two pick-6’s on deep outs, then we find out later he had a bum shoulder? Wonder if Mannion does too?

    I couldn’t believe they called deep outs like htat knowing his shoulder was compromised.

    Getting that Riley feeling, you know, where you HOPE you get breaks to fall your way because you don’t think the coaches/team are going to get it done?

    And a kick to the 33…

  • angry says:
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    What the hell was that kick???

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      squibb, better to have them fall on it at the 30 than run back from the 5 to the 40

  • Mud&Sticks says:
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    That looked like an onside KO. Except it didn’t work. WTF???

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    Barner with 141 rushing yards……only had 69 against Stanford. Banker is reading a comic book on the sideline.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Alexander comes off the field. Not good.

  • angry says:
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    Oh no, does that mean Robinson is coming in…?

  • Mud&Sticks says:
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    Ahhh god damn it

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Horrible penalty on UO, just wow. I thought for SURE it was on us.

  • mckalk says:
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    Beav defenders never seem to employ any kind of stripping technique.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    You can not let Huff beat you

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Amazing catch. They missed that play a bunch of times against Stanford, but he makes the circus catch vs us. Damn.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    HAVE TO CHALLENGE HERE!

    That looked like a fumble.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Like the deep throw to get the first back right away.

  • angry says:
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    That is a fumble

  • orangejulius says:
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    Hate these shitty announcers, may have to look for them when they leave Reser and offer a battery to their domes

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Nope, either not a fumble or no evidence, damn.

    Also, Thomas cut and juked someone out of their shorts on that run. More fail-tackling in space.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Just not a good angle for us

  • ObjCritic says:
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    That was dumb Dr.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Getting touchy now. Thomas doesn’t like getting hit, and his line is losing their shit.

  • orangejulius says:
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    i like the Beavs showing some ‘tude, at least they act like they care, unlike last couple of years

  • angry says:
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    If they had a camera angle on the other side they’d see it was clearly a fumble. Why is there no angle on that side?

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    Ducks on the move, notice how many miss tackles on last play?

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    And another hold. That tackle was just LOCKED IN!

  • orangejulius says:
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    Holding! And a flag? Amazing

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Wow, the officials have finally had their eyes opened to holding!

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    need to stop them on 4th

  • Mud&Sticks says:
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    Get a frigging turn over!!!

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    All game our LBs and safeties have dove into the gap, and UO has turned outside and burned us. All game. Just amazing.

    Die in a hole banker. All our good plays have been individual efforts, and his horrible defense gives up points.

  • orangejulius says:
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    bounce goes to ducks, again

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    luck of the beavs, two fumble and both duck recoveries

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Jesus christ. Tackle.

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    Everyone having fun yet?

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Thomas is back there all day and nobody could get any fucking penetration. Can we get some goddamn linebackers? They are absolutely hideous most of the fucking time.

    We used to have amazing LBs, now we haven’t in a long, long time, and it shows in how bad our defense plays.

  • FatDog says:
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    The only good thing is that drive took forever in UO time. We have to answer now.

  • Mud&Sticks says:
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    Time for the coaching staff and the offense to nut up.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Poyer with a bad angle

  • orangejulius says:
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    Beavs need to apply some hits on dt’s ribs ala barner, that punk needs to feel some pain

  • angry says:
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    D really failed there.
    Refs didn’t help on the fumble.
    That was a huge drive…game defining drive. Prediction is the Beavs don’t answer that score, punt, and Ducks start running away.

  • beavis24 says:
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    Game over. Defense incapable of making the key plays often enough. Too bad.

    • mckalk says:
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      A defense has to get consistent penetration to stop the Ducks, only Stanford has that type of quality and DISCIPLINE. Penetration is why Chip’s offense won’t work down to down in the NFL, but it works 95% of the time in college.

  • orangejulius says:
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    Um, that blows

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    OH MY GOD!!!

    Special teams is fucking us again. Cannot believe that fucking moron choking up the ball. Just amazing. Nice fucking hands you scrub.

  • FatDog says:
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    Goddammit!!!!!

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Here’s where Chip steps on their throats and breaks their heart/will.

  • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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    …Annnnd that’s your ballgame

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    I can’t believe how many miss tackles by our defense. This is just basic defensive shit……it shows how prepared team was to play this game. Poor coaching as usual. Riley said in a interview yesterday that watching the Stanford vs. Oregon game would not do any good. You can’t learn from what Stanford did to stop the Ducks. A good example of a stupid statement and an idiot coach.

    • steveEbeaver says:
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      Could be a coach not letting on what his game plan is.

    • OneEyedKing says:
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      Linebackers are supposed to be your primary tacklers, especially in a 4-3. And yet our safeties have lead in tackles for years now. That’s a systemic flaw with both our coaching and recruiting.

      Fuck our LBs.

    • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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      He said theres nothing to learn there because there isn’t. Stanford did everything that all the other teams did, the only thing they did differently was not miss tackles. There’s no secret “blueprint” to beat the ducks, you just have to tackle well. A good example of a stupid comment by a stupid poster.

  • beavis24 says:
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    Isn’t it uncanny how the Beavs continue to make the same mistakes week after week?

  • ObjCritic says:
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    WOW! An ineligible receiver downfield called! Against UO!

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Why don’t you run blitz there?

  • orangejulius says:
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    And there is another 4th down stop, er, uh

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Fourth and 6, they run it up the middle for a 30+ yard TD. GG guys, I’m done. Fuck this defense, fuck Banker, and fuck our LBs. Absolute garbage.

    • OneEyedKing says:
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      RIley runs a fucking base 4-3 every goddamn year against UO, and every fucking year they shred it, and yet he just keeps doing it over and over. Fucking idiot. There goes another Civil War, and with it a good bowl.

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      Other coaches could do more with Welch and Doctor.

  • angry says:
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    Chip 4-0 vs Riley….and counting. 5 straight CW loses.

    Where are the Riley apologists??

    • Gdub says:
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      well, 17 points was enough for Stanford. Has Banker EVER come up with a good defensive game plan to stop oregon? I’ll take dumbshit defensive coordinators for $500 Alex. And get rid of Bruce read. Other than Kostol our special teams have been real special this year. And when I say special I mean Corky from “Life Goes On” could coach as well as Bruce Read.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Here comes a 4-5 minute drive culminating in a missed field goal.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Scott was tackled on that play but I guess the refs have used their quota of holds against the ducks

  • FatDog says:
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    That’s it for me boys.
    I am going to turn off the TV and find something to do that is better for my health.
    Watching this is going to lead to a stroke or something.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Era of mediocrity continues

  • Tim says:
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    So much for your beanpole theory! Haha. Have fun filling bean dip stadium for your dumb game next week… Ha

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Another throw behind!

  • bowdowntooregon says:
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    what up beavers?

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Riley looks out of answers, defeated.

    Watch Lyerla come in to run late after Thomas does more damage….

  • mckalk says:
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    I’m still trying to figure out how the Beavs had a chance to beat Stanford?

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    I think Riley was pissed that he hitched his wagon to Mannion. Looks like a big mistake now.

  • angry says:
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    I think the jury is still out on this Mannion. People act like it’s clear he’s better than Vaz. I don’t see a clear difference. I see a guy who is taller and looks the part, but makes a lot of bad throws. Even on big plays the ball is rarely on time.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Defense comes up big now that the game is over. Luck of the beav fan.

  • dickassman says:
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    LMFAO yeah

  • orangejulius says:
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    Really?

    Marcus, I know you’re a senior and want to make something happen, but….

  • ObjCritic says:
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    AND a 52 yard gain by UO on the punt…

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Why is Wheaton fielding punts when Poyer has been back there all year?

  • orangejulius says:
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    Barner looks weak, keep hitting him Beavs

  • progressivebeav says:
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    What a fucking stupid game. Let me know when Decarolis is fired.

  • beavis24 says:
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    Man, this is really bad quality football by the Beavs….and in our 11th game of the season. Very sad….

  • ObjCritic says:
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    I wish somebody would look Riley in the eye and ask:

    “Do you think you can ever beat a healthy Chip Kelly-coached Duck team?”

  • orangejulius says:
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    Defense playing physical, too little too late

  • ObjCritic says:
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    So, because we have no confidence, lets have NO punt returner….

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Who’s the special teams coach?

  • mckalk says:
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    Defense is doing pointless celebrating and pumping, it’s like the pressure is off because they know their not going to win.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    This hasn’t been fun.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    4 turnovers and you just threw the game away. At least bring in Harrington.

  • orangejulius says:
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    Three, uh make that four, self inflicted turnovers, bad clock management, and well there you have it

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Awful pass. Slow, high, weak.

    Good day.

  • mckalk says:
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    Sad thing is that it doesn’t take a perfect game to beat the Ducks, but it takes a damn good game which the Beavs were unable to achieve due to very poor execution.

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    Beaver game falling apart by the minute. Players are getting frustrated and will most likely make mistakes. Riley has lost total control of the game as usual. Barney Fife goes home after the game and walks his dog after a hug from BDC. How many more years of this idiot do we have to put up with?

    • orangejulius says:
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      And like Fife, he’ll still have a bullet, er, timeout, in his pocket.

    • steveEbeaver says:
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      At least twenty unless I win $300 million in the lottery. Unfortunately for Beaver fans I don’t play the lottery.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    And our DBs are playing so soft

    • mckalk says:
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      What the hell is up with that? Duck receiving corp is nothing to be scared of, but I think the secondary is completely focused on the run (even thought they’re not stopping that either). Poyer has been a huge non-factor.

  • beavis24 says:
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    Boy, I hope we don’t have any recruits in Corvallis watching this game. What a complete turnoff for anyone who might be interested in the program.

  • jailbreakBeav says:
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    See everybody back here for the Sun bowl! Ugh…

  • OrangeFlush says:
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    Im done. And to go one further I am rescinding my “Beaver Fan” status until Mike Riley quits, is fired or dies. Im done. I simply cant support him and his program of medicrity any longer. good day.

  • orangejulius says:
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    Oh good, I can relive this Civil War on Pac12 network tomorrow

    Time to head to the liquor store

  • WFO says:
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    Bruce Read you’re fired.

  • mckalk says:
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    Just curious, I haven’t heard much from Dylan Wynn lately, did the weight he gained make him a step slow this year?

  • HopefulBeav says:
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    I try to keep reminding myself this is just a game, it has no impact on my personal life… but man this fucking sucks.

  • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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    Missed tackles, drops, bad decisions by the QB, muffed kicks. I’m no Riley apologist but this game is on the players, often times they were in positions to make plays and they didn’t. I’m sure if you really wanted to you could somehow find a way to convince yourself that it’s Rileys fault we lost this game but today the players stepped onto the field an shit their pants. And don’t gimme this “preparation” crap, if they tackle each other in practice, then they’re prepared to tackle in games, if the receivers catch the ball in practice, then they’re prepared to catch the ball.

    • Fightingbeaver says:
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      Bottom line is all the stuff you are talking about are supposed to be attained in training and practice. this is basic shit. Riley and his staff are responsible for this and preparing the individual player for each game, including how to catch a ball, executing plays and knowing how to tackle. Riley makes the bucks and he is responsible. To put blame on players in a typical Mike Riley norm. Don’t go there.

      • orangejulius says:
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        Except how many times have you seen Wheaton screw the pooch, and in this game? I tend to agree the players are over matched, if not physically, then mentally, and while coaching can help that ultimately is on them.

    • HopefulBeav says:
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      100% agree. It got out of hand at the end but I thought throughout the first 3 quarters our players were in positions to make plays and just failed again and again. I’m in shock at how bad our players executed their jobs today.

      On that same note, what the hell happened to Wheaton today? I’m not a fan of picking on individual players but I think you could make a very easy case that Wheaton did immeasurable damage to OSU’s chances of pulling off the upset.

    • mckalk says:
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      Players shit their pants (including the seniors) changed and shit their pants again.

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    Agree, 12 years of mediocrity and frustration. How much does it take to make Beaver Nation down right mad and tired of Riley’s shit. Riley has taken OSU football to its lowest level in 20 years. My fire riley T shirts have just gone up in value again.

    • SadBeaver says:
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      You really are a moron. 20 years? At least get your facts straight. Do you know what the average win rate was say 15 years ago when MR took over? Oh thats right you don’t care… forgot your still trolling.

  • orangejulius says:
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    Looks like Beavs really emphasized those diving whiff/arm tackles during the last week.

  • WFO says:
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    Why is a 170# guy running over/through linebackers and safeties?

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Not even enough of the crap to play for pride, it’s also left the stadium.

  • orangejulius says:
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    Maybe the game plan is to see if yucks get worn out from scoring so much.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    This loss is a team effort. Coaches did a poor job preparing the team but the players shit the bed. Fumbles on kickoffs and punts is inexcusable. Pathetic effort in the 2nd half. Team just mailed it in.

  • VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
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    Boy, I’ve never been on this site before and won’t return. You are the most negative,
    critical people I have ever seen/read. Gosh, we’ve just had a great season and yes, this has been a bad game, but try to look on the positive.

    Mike Riley is an awesome coach and does amazing things with the talent he gets. He coaches his players up. It’s hard to recruit with U of Oregons reputation and program. Get off your negative bandwagon and support this team!

    • dickassman says:
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      FUCK YOU.

    • orangejulius says:
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      Nothing personal, but, kindly go fuck yourself. :^)

    • angry says:
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      lol
      small town mentality.
      “support the team at all costs, it’s all we have in corvallis!”

    • Fightingbeaver says:
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      What’s so great about it. 12 years and not one BCS bowl? Our standards for Beaver football are much higher than yours. Get a life.

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        I do have a life. Love football and love OSU. My husband graduated from there and we bleed orange. I just hate negativity but apparently you guys need to vent. I don’t like losing either, especially the way we are losing today, and especially to Oregon, but it is what it is. I respect Riley and hate seeing him blasted.

    • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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      “You are the most negative, critical people I have ever seen/read.”

      Notice the title of this site is “Angry Beavs: A Critical View of Oregon State Athletics”. What did you expect?

      • orangejulius says:
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        “Golly gee, I expected fluff and feel good strokes like I get in the GT”

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Tree had better beat UCLA today

  • WFO says:
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    I can’t decide if USC or OSU is the worse tacking team.

    Soooooo bad.

  • FedUpBeav says:
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    I’m ready to move on to a coach who can actually win any game with higher stakes in over a decade of trying. Riley hasn’t yet and will continue to come up short. I’ll take Sonny Dykes right now! Even think Utah St’s coach would be much more capable of a big win than Riley. How many years do we have to keep doing this Groundhog’s Day?

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    WTF, another middle screen??? Andwhy no Harrington???

  • mckalk says:
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    See that’s what makes Kelly a f-ing genius, just that little adjustment of “ground ball” kick offs, Ward broke off some nice returns in the 1st half, so Chipster says “enough of that bullshit” and makes a change and greatly effects the game.

    • VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
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      He’s got a great mind but still can’t stand the guy.

      • mckalk says:
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        Oh, I hate his ass and can’t wait for the day he is gone to the NFL.

      • mckalk says:
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        In the college game, the goddamn clock is your friend because it stops after every first down. There’s no need to throw 30 yard outs.

      • mckalk says:
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        In hindsight, I’m sort of glad this game was on the P-12 Network.

      • Gdub says:
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        he’s a fuck stain and a cheat. Cannot stand ANYTHING about u of o. They stand for everything that is wrong with college football.

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      That just means he’s not an idiot, aka Mike Riley.

    • OrangeFlush says:
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      I dont know if Chip is a genius or not but what he is is NOT afraid. He is decisive. He takes risks, hes gambles and his players love it. He sees a problem and he acts. He doesn just kick the turf, say aww shucks and think about it for a half a game.

      Riley is paralized by fear and only knows ONE way to do anything. Hes a victim of his his own mediocre success. Hes thinks he can tweak his system just a little and make is significantly better and hes wrong.

  • idiots says:
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    If Beavs do score, I’ll bet too stupid to even kick onsides

  • beavis24 says:
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    OSU: worst screen team in Division I football, bar none…

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    Another intercept. I can’t watch anymore. shutting stupid game down. You guys have a great Christmas. Who gives a shit about pouncing on poor Nicholls St. I feel sorry for our players.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Over 400 yds rushing by the ducks, averaged over 7 yds per run today

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    Looking forward in watching USC and ND game tonight. I hope USC can overtake ND. I think the little green lepro…..whatever are overrated. I predict Stanford beats UCLA also.

    • mckalk says:
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      Shit, I’m rooting for ND unfortunately because I can’t have any chance of Oregon getting to their “natty” again.

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      If USC wins Oregon will go to the title game.
      Not that I disagree with that, they’re the best or second best team. It would still suck to watch them in that game again, and eventually they’re going to win one.

      • mckalk says:
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        Yup, that’s why I’m rooting for ND for the 1st time ever in my lifetime. The “Duck Denial” theory.

      • orangejulius says:
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        Maybe THEN Kelly moves on

      • Gdub says:
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        they won’t if Kelly leaves after this year to the NFL. Which I predict he will be the next coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. And eventually it would be nice if the NCAA got off their asses and put them back about 10 years.

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          What is taking so goddamn long for the verdict on sanctions?

          • Gdub says:
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            wish I had the answer. My hope is they continue to dig because the more they try to cover it up the worse its going to be

      • tim318 says:
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        Ducks have jump over Florida to get into the BCS championship if ND loses. It could line up as another all SEC championship.

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          They might jump Florida.
          Florida has been crap all year. They have no business being top 5.

  • mckalk says:
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    They can’t stop the run when they know it’s coming.

  • Gdub says:
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    absolutely unacceptable to lose 5 straight to your rival. 4 of them have not even been close. This fucking sucks. Now I have to hear it from the rest of my family for another year. I swear to god the first dick fan that gets in my face and starts crowing about how awesome they are and the beavers suck is going to get cockpunched. Anyone want to start a bail fund for me?

    • WFO says:
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      email me your address I’m in for $10.

      • Fightingbeaver says:
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        I might have to join you in your cell. Oh wait, with the overcrowding they will most likely let us go.

        • StarcraftSquall says:
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          Angry Beavs Cell Party? Come as you are? They don’t have enough space and jail is already overcrowded… :-)

  • angry says:
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    Still has Mannion in there. Doesn’t even give Harrington experience. What an idiot.

  • orangejulius says:
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    Stop being so negative, bitches. We’re only down 5 touchdowns and there are still 3 whole minutes on the clock.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    To be honest, this is how I expected the season to go and for most of the year they have exceeded my expectations but this game was just a disaster. Mannion with another horrible throw. Why is he still in there?

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    A high throw and it leaves Cooks exposed over the middle. If I was a receiver I’d demand a new QB

  • mckalk says:
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    Mannion’s dad’s team got slaughtered in the 2nd half last night in the high school playoffs. Bad weekend for the Mannion family!

    • orangejulius says:
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      Sherwood is good, deep and experienced, not surprising despite an otherwise good year for Silverton

  • orangejulius says:
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    Can we please not get any of these kids killed in the last minute

    • orangejulius says:
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      Really, a minus one? LOL, idiot, I guess you want the shitty throws to continue. Knucklehead. #smh

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    What do you think Riley would say if he saw Kelly laughing it up on the sidelines?

  • idiots says:
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    I would’ve traded all 8 wins for 1 win today.

    • steveEbeaver says:
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      Riley would probably trade 3 of them, afterall he needs to get to 6 for his contract extension

  • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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    Don’t call it a comeback!

  • mckalk says:
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    Looks like Chip missed the “rogaine window”.

  • mckalk says:
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    Allioti full out blitzing with 20 seconds left???

  • mckalk says:
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    Was the final turnover margin 6 to 0?

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Wow the TV analyst just said “I thought that the Beavers would do better against the run. With their corners I thought they would load the box” HaHa, he’s never seen a Mark Banker coached defense, load the box against a running team are you KIDDING me?

  • Gdub says:
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    One last thing before I attempt to get my drink on and flush this abortion from my memory just as I have had to do the last 5 years. Dear Riley, you suck! Now go walk your dog and eat a bag of dicks. Go Stanford

  • FedUpBeav says:
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    So Vaz for Nicholls St. then?

    • steveEbeaver says:
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      Assuming he’s healthy. How can you play a guy that’s thrown a zillion ints in his last few games?

    • mckalk says:
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      There’s some serious assessment that needs to go on with the QB position, right? Mannion is a turnover machine, can Vaz win more games? I don’t know, but both these guys are back. I think it’s time the Beavs moved into the decade and find dual threat QB. There’s got to be a Russell Wilson clone somewhere!

      • Timber2002 says:
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        Mannion is like Derek Anderson except he throws about half as many TDs.

        • mckalk says:
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          And they would at least use Anderson on the QB sneak. I’m getting tired of the immobile pocket passers, I want something different. I really think they were on the right track with Ryan Katz type skills, but just needed a little better player than him for the P-12 level.

        • mckalk says:
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          I’m suspicious that we are going to be hearing something about Mannion’s shoulder. His arm strength is not there, maybe a knee injury effects that? Anderson threw lasers his senior year. I liked QB’s with attitude like Moore and Moevao, they need to find that again.

    • orangejulius says:
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      Harrington, baby!

  • Dwill03 says:
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    I’m not the biggest Riley fan out there, but for those who rush here to trash him: he was coaching a good aggressive game and the players shit the bed. If you want to blame him for Kell and Wheatons consecutive bone headed fumbles that blew the game open then your a fool. The ducks capitalized on bad turnovers. Not much you can do to overcome that. Stay healthy through Nichols date and win you bowl game.

    Go beavs

    • Timber2002 says:
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      Defense had NO IDEA how to defend the spread option. NO IDEA. Same fucking plays they seen for the last 5 years but still NO IDEA. Ducks could have walked in for TDs.

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      I agree but some of the things he does just infuriates me. Tops in this one is the clock management at the end of the 1st half and the fact that he didn’t pull Mannion in the 4th Q. Is he afraid of Mannion’s fragile phyche?

    • mckalk says:
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      It’s a long thread, but most of us agree that a lot of this had to do with players shitting themselves on the big stage including some seniors.

    • Fightingbeaver says:
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      I blame Riley for 12+ years of mediocre football. I blame Riley for not being able to train or prepare his team to play and win games they should win with the talent they have. Period.

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        Erm.. look previously behind those 12 years… you won’t like what you see. The last 12 years have been above average if you look at it. However, still agree Riley needs to go to move forward.

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          fair enough. But I ask you just who in the hell could we get to replace him? I sure as shit wouldn’t want to move to Corvallis. Hell, I already want to get the fuck out of this place

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      6 turnovers, all based on players over reaching, even the stud like Wheaton

  • Timber2002 says:
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    Banker got his doors blown off for the 5th year in a row. Fire the son of a bitch.

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      If Riley had cajones he would realize that even symbolically it would be a show of strength to cut Banker loose and prove to the faithful that OSU football has matured to the point where losing the civil war five years in a row is not acceptable whether you go to a minor bowl game or not. It’s not going to happen though.

    • SadBeaver says:
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      Defense actually played well considering all the turnovers. As much as I want to blame the coaches… this one is mostly on the players. I do blame Riley for not pulling Sean….and the special teams coach should be fired, but overall this was 85% on the players. Particularly disturbing was the drops by Marcus.

      • Fightingbeaver says:
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        In the second half the players made mistakes, stupid mistakes because they were frustrated on how the game was going. Their leadership (head coach) had lost all control of the game by the 3rd quarter. By this time players were mentally not in the game.

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        no, they gave up over 400 yards rushing. worst defensive performance of the year

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      Poor player execution and sloppy play (6 turnovers, most incredibly stupid) doomed us. This was looking to be at least an entertaining game at half. Then we got sloppy. Say what you want about the coaches, this loss is on the players.

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    Riley talking about identity now in postgame

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    Mannion’s last four games:

    Washington State 1 TD 3 INT
    Washington 1 TD 4 INT
    Cal 4 TD 1 INT
    Oregon 1 TD 4 INT

    Seeing a theme here? He’s not ready. Vaz has 8 TDs and 1 INT(plus a few fumbles). This isn’t even a contest anymore.

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      like everybody said before the game…this was about running the ball and stopping the run. Well Oregon ran the living shit out of the ball and we looked like we never saw a zone read before in our life. Does Mark Banker know what the option is? Does he know they are trying to get to the edge?

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      And he clearly wasn’t ready last year. No way should he have been our guy a year ago…but everyone here was busy licking his balls.

  • SadBeaver says:
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    Mannion is just not our franchise QB. Really hoping someone steps up next year, preferably someone that can scramble. Mannion just makes too many poor decisions and his throws are just not up to par.

    • Grape says:
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      Richie Harrington

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      The big problem is traditionally, Riley sticks with his experienced QB’s. To have Harrington play next year we need a new head coach and preferably a new AD also.

      Going with Harrington next year would be a good move and also recruit for better quality QB, now not a priority in Riley’s book.

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        Mannion is the long term guy. But the team wouldve been better off with giving Harrington a go today. Mannion needs an off-season to retool

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        I don’t agree at all, Riley showed with Mannion last year that he will go with the best player. Do you even follow Beaver football at all?

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          Something hasn’t clicked with Mannion. When he’s on he can be really good but so far he’s only been on once in every 5 games.

  • idiots says:
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    who wants to keep Bruce Reed over Trent Bray???

  • bendbeaver says:
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    The turnovers and the subsequent loss is on the team, not the coaches. Shut the fuck up about this being the coaches fault. The players dropped the balls, not Riley.

    • Timber2002 says:
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      this game wasn’t lost by turnovers. It was lost by our inability to defend the run. If we had defended the run we wouldn’t have had all the turnovers

    • Gdub says:
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      Kenjon Barner had 150+ yards rushing in the first half. Banker has had 5 years to come up with something to stop the spread. That’s on the players???? Uh huh. Stanford showed the blue print on how to stop them. Riley and Banker shit the bed and the players followed suit.

      • bendbeaver says:
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        Did the coaches overpursue and miss tackles?

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          no but our players do that every year against the spread. THAT is on the coaching staff. You need to put your players in a position to be successful. Whatever the fuck Banker has done the last 5 years DOESN’T WORK!!!! Isn’t the definition of madness doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

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            Nope. That’s not remotely the definition of madness. It is the colloquially quoted definition of insanity as first presented by Rita Mae Brown in an early 80’s novel. It’s a stupid definition. It’s not worth my time to type these words.

            Whatever… you don’t care, nor will you ever care.

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            But I do agree about the DC not being able to figure out how to defend the spread. Shoulds and ifs suck as a defensive scheme.

    • Fightingbeaver says:
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      Bullshit. Defenders miss tackles throughout the whole game. Riley dropped the ball by not having his players prepared to play this game. Blaming the players is just juvenile thinking. Riley gets the money not the players. Riley and his flunky staff are the one’s responsible for the loss to the ucks. We don’t have to “shut the fuck up”.

    • Mud&Sticks says:
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      @ bendbeaver I agree it’s on the players and their talent and skill level. They aren’t as as talented as the ‘uck players.

      So because of piss poor recruiting and piss poor training the team got their asses kicked.

      Oh, wait maybe it isn’t on the players after all.

      IT’S TIME TO FIRE BDC!!!!!!!

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    My wife, a Beaver fan and sometimes football fan, says “I think it’s time Riley should go”. I’m a smart guy so if my wife says it well….

  • Gdub says:
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    just about anywhere else in the college football world, 5 straight ass rapings delivered by your rival is more than enough to get your ass canned. In Corvallis? Not so much

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    on the bright side, Florida won, Stanford is winning and Notre Dame has a nice opening drive going.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    It would be pretty impressive for Riley to be fired after people hyped him for Coach of the Year. No chance BDC has the balls.

    The team would be a lot better off if RIley hired a pair of hungry young coordinators:Banker is too set in his losing ways to change and adapt, and Langsdorf can’t handle the OC job at all. Then maybe the team would try to innovate, adapt, or at least make half-time adjustments. Bray was a good start, but he’s too far down the totem pole.

    Riley’s staff definitely fucked the game up by their complete inability, for the 5th year now, to stop the Spread Read. I liked the individual play calls, but the ratio was still way off; too many passes, ignoring the run for stretches at a time. But also the players, especially the linebackers, missed too many tackles and failed to make plays, while Mannion missed open receivers and threw too many picks.

    Plenty of blame to go around, as usual.

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    Mannion is terrible. Wheaton had the worst game of his life. Two special teams turnovers. Our players wilted I. The big stage. Wilted. No shows. Not schemes, not play calls. The boys played without confidence, without swagger. Failure to execute.

  • Timber2002 says:
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    I would like to see Banker replaced by Cal’s D-coord Clancy Pendergast. I like how he’s defended the ducks since 2010.

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    Nothing will ever happen to Mike Riley as long as Fuddy Duddy BDC is AD. DeCareLess and Riley are like Barney Fife and Andy. BDC will protect MR at all times. We are stuck with both…….our loss.

    • numbers says:
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      I fully agree. Once DeCareless steps down, maybe the hire right the AD has enough balls to light a fire under Rileys ass. Surround him with a couple mentally tough coordinators, and we’ll be back in biz.

  • Mud&Sticks says:
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    Which team had the most talent: UW or WSU?

    Which team wanted to win the most?

    Imo the reason the Cougs didn’t Coug it was because of who their head coach is and what he brings to the team.

    For a lot of reasons Riley has to go if OSU wants to take it to the next level.

    • Fightingbeaver says:
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      WSU wanted to win the most in the Apple Cup just like Stanford wanted to win the most against Oregon. Yes, their coaches instilled in them the mental attitude to win. Mike Riley is incapable of doing the same. Gee wiz, gosh golly, darn nab it……………..

      • Gdub says:
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        sadly I agree. In previous years I would defend Riley but I no longer believe he is the coach that can get us to the rose bowl. And I mean the rose bowl on new years not just playing UCLA down there. Which we have done. On a regular basis. Penis. snicker

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    ND 10-7
    Tree 35-17

  • mckalk says:
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    This season has been weird. Based on today’s game I feel like there’s not a hell of a lot of difference between 3-9 and 9-3 when everyone in the middle of the P-12 is fairly equal. It boils down to a bounce here or an injury there for a W or L.

    I thought the Beavs would probably lose, but I was anticipating a closer, harder fought game. Today’s result feels like zero progress has been made in closing the gap. Depressing.

    • Gdub says:
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      sadly I agree with you. Despite the fact we were a better team this year than last it sure does seem the gap between us is getting further

  • Timber2002 says:
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    Beavs woulda been in the Fiesta bowl

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      That would have been super. I went to the Fiesta Bowl in 2000 and I never witnessed Beaver fans so happy or fired up. Now all we get is toilet bowls. Just tired of it.

  • locusimperium says:
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    It really would have been an exciting game sans unbelievable turnovers. Very frustrating, but that’s whats good about not living or dying by this stuff. Basketball anyone?

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    It looks like USC’s first starter quarterback is playing better than our experienced QB. Shows what good training and being prepared to play against a team like ND can do. I can tell the Trojans really want to win this game…………..good mental attitude again.

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      That’s what I don’t get. I guess it’s depth, but guys come off the bench and light it up all across the nation and the Beavs QB’s have to go through this stupid two year process to learn and mature in “Riley’s system”.

      Maybe it’s just the talent gap. I was watching Duck basketball last night and they had a freshmen come in and takeover the game whereas Beav freshmen are tentative and just playing limited roles. I hate it, but this talent difference seems to be the new reality in trying to compete with the Ducks.

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        To your comment fightingbeav, Max Wittek is a blue-chip recruit so you probably saw him performing better than Mannion did in his first start because he is better than Mannion.

        To your comment Mckalk, that freshman you saw for UO lighting it up was most likely Dominic Artis, also a Blue-Chip point recruit.

        The issue with both cases you guys have listed isn’t a matter of coaching and preparation, its a matter of talent. Wittek is more talented than any of our QBs (hence why he is at USC) and Artis is far more talented than any of our freshman players.

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    Today sucked but they had a free photo booth setup in the truex center that you could get your picture with Terry Bakers heisman trophy, they let you touch and pose with it. As a huge sports fan this will be a something I remember for a long time. Best OSU sponsored pregame experience ever , too bad the game sucked

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    ND has the ball on their own 20 with 1:35 left in the half leading 13-10. If Riley’s the coach they take a knee and go into halftime flat and a three point lead. Brian Kelley meanwhile has ND move the ball downfield to kick a long FG and get a little momentum and a 6 point lead.

  • Beavergopher says:
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    Sounds like I missed another great CW. When does baseball start?

  • Gdub says:
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    Tree wins. With Floriduh winning the dicks will be regulated to the Fiesta Bowl against the Big-12 champion. No “natty” for you. Again. I love it. As pissed as I am about today’s result I am ok with either the Alamo or Holiday bowl against a Big-12 opponent. But, the question now becomes how do you take that next step the following year Riley? If history repeats itself, you don’t. Why haven’t the bowl games and wins in the past resulted in recruiting better talent? That is the question I want answered.

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      You love that the ducks may end up in the Fiesta Bowl with a major payout and endless exposure on ESPN that will only help their national recruiting. The Fiesta Bowl will give them almost as much exposure as the Championship game and is in Arizona which makes it easier for their fans to get to. 4 BCS bowls in a row will not hurt their image. Until we beat them, their not going to the National Championship game is no solace to most of us.

      • Gdub says:
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        yes. since every other member of my family are dick fans it would be unbearable if they played for and won the national championship. Does it suck they will be in a BCS bowl game for the 4th year in a row? Fuck yes it does, but it pales in comparison to having to listen to them crow about a national championship.

        • Fightingbeaver says:
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          I think to the ucks the Beaver football program is a joke. They know as long as Riley is head coach they will win the Civil War every year. That sucks.

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            Riley has beat them before. Just not with CK as their coach. We can only hope CK leaves for the NFL after this season and the NCAA comes down hard on their football program.

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        Oh, it’s solace to me. In the end nobody gives two shits about anything but the BCS championship.

  • bowlgame2020 says:
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    This game is a bigger disappointment than most realize. Oregon was playing with their 3rd string safety, a defensive line with major injuries, a hurt running back and a first year quarterback. They put up the most rushing yards of the season 430. with a depleted offensive line. I don’t want to even think what might have happened if they were a full strength. 5 CW losses in a row and next years game in Eugene. Mark Banker absolutely must go! He has never come close to stopping Chip Kelly.s offense. I know that this will never happen since I heard Riley say that he and Banker had been together forever. This means that as long as Kelly is at Oregon, the BEAVS will not beat the ducks. We can only hope the NFL shows mercy on us.

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      Thanks for player info. I don’t think it will matter whether Chip leaves Oregon or not. Oregon, with a winning attitude will just hire a head coach as good as Kelley, so our chances of Civil War victory with Riley at the helm just goes out the window. For being such a “nice guy”, he stays for his ego and not the betterment of the football team……I see that a selfish.

      • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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        The football team is fine, just not what you want it to be. Outside this blog many see this season as a wild success. We’re likely going to win 9 games with the possibility of winning a 10th after a 3-9 season a year ago. Riley will stay because the majority of the fan base doesn’t need a BCS berth to call a season a success. They witnessed 28 consecutive losing seasons (or at least a good amount of them) and the fact of the matter is that this team is a good team, this program is a good program and the coach of it is a good coach. But to reach BCS bowls with the resources OSU has, they need a great coach. Sure Riley’s not a great coach but to say he’s making the program worse, or that he has the program at its lowest point in 20 years is just absurd.

        You know what the record of the 1992 OSU football team was? 1-9-1, a winning pct of a whopping .136, and a 10th place finish in the PAC-10.

        Look, we aren’t as good as the Ducks, but that sure as shit doesn’t mean were bad. We aren’t even average or “middle of the road”. We’re good. If that isn’t good enough for you, that’s fine, I want more too. But your comments about Riley are uneducated and stupid.

        • Jack says:
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          Outside this blog?

          I was at the game yesterday, and this blog is a happy fluffy sparkly Beav cheerleading squad compared to what I heard from the crowd at Reser. I thought the pollyannas would be apologists for this game, but I heard several complaints at the half about Riley and clock management. And a mostly empty stadium in the fourth quarter of Reser’s largest crowd ever told me they were talking with their feet.

          But you know, negative people like me stood in the rain until the clock hit zero… cheering for my team. I could have been a pollyanna and bugged for the shelter of my tailgate/bar/restaurant/home. But that doesn’t sound like something a fan does.

  • angry says:
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    The Beavs have a much better team this year, yet the result is almost identical to last year (49-21 vs 48-24). It was actually worse at 48-17 until the late garbage TD. Zero progress.

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      But the weak links are still the weak links, i.e. DT and LBs. It’s like staves in a barrel, it doesn’t matter how tall the tallest staves are the barrel won’t hold more water until the smaller staves are replaced. Then you turn the ball over 6 times to their 0 and I’m surprised the score wasn’t more lopsided.

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    BCS title game is a joke once again. ND as the #1 team? lol

    Another year I won’t be watching the game (Watched Oregon/Auburn and USC/Texas in the past decade). Passed on every other game.

    Playoff can’t come soon enough.

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      I hate ND, but their D is legit.

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      Doesn’t matter, Alabama is the best team in the country and they’ll win so to me the BCS worked this year. Sure, ND shouldn’t be there and Oregon probably should, but as long as the best team wins in the end, it’s a success in my book.

      • Jack says:
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        How do you know Bama is the best? Who have they played which tells you this? Who has anyone in the SEC played? They’ll now have a month to prepare for some ridiculous bowl game that I’ll have forgotten about once again… until the day after when I say, “Oh, apparently the BCSCG was played last night. Oh well.”

  • bendbeaver says:
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    The weak link is not having sustained scoring drives. This time it was turnovers.

  • StarcraftSquall says:
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    In the most important game of the season, the Beavers played their absolute worst game of the season. Inexcusable.

  • Beavergopher says:
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    Beavers…….,..did not “win the day.”

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    was pretty shocked to read that the father of Mike Riley’s grandchild is Jovan Stevenson.

  • beav4ever says:
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    As I have said all along the Beavs do not have a D1 qb and that killed them today. I know that Banker has no clue and that Riley will never get us over the hump but what happened to Wheaton, Poyer,Wynn and our tackling on def.
    I left the game today not impressed with the UO, they are a good team but not a national title contender. We gave them way to many opportunities(Mannion and Wheaton)
    We need a qb or we will never get over the hump.

  • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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    Money always wins

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    The toilet seat fans were the worst I have ever seen “and that’s saying A LOT” today. 40YO man cussing out an 8YO boy rooting for the Beavers (just one example). The whole day was just a horrible experience. We were surrounded by these douchbags and all we could do was sit on our hands and take it. They are so bad it has gotten to the point I wont go back to the civil war in 2 years.

    • Jack says:
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      The group behind me was just a stupid fucking group. The PA announcer would call each play, “pass to so-and-so for such-and-such yardage.” And this group of idiots would complain every time and laugh that he was saying, “Vaz to so-and-so….”

      Every. Single. Time.

      Yup… 3 hours of this only to be rewarded near the end when the PA called a TD for the Beavs when Barner walked into the end zone.

  • silverstream055 says:
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    Here is BDC’s utterly predictable post-debacle analysis:

    “”This isn’t the result we wanted to have in this particular game, but when you look at the whole season it’s a tremendous turnaround,” OSU athletic director Bob De Carolis said. “The coaches and the players are to be commended for that…..Last year, we weren’t having this conversation,” De Carolis said. “We’re headed in the right direction.”

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2012/11/goe_all_is_not_lost_for_the_be.html

    A fish rots from the head, and the head is BDC. Significant progress will not and cannot occur until BDC is gone. And there is no reason to think that will happen soon, I’m sorry to say….

    • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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      3-9 last year to 9-3 and potentially 10-3 this year is what some would call significant progress.

      • orangejulius says:
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        “potentially 10-3″ ? You’re not confident that the Beavs can beat a team like Nichols State? I would say that is the very definition of a lack of progress.

        • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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          We’re 8-3 now. I said 9-3 and potentially 10-3 because I assumed we will beat nicholls st for win no. 9 and potentially win our bowl game which would give us 10 wins. Check yourself before you wreck yourself.

          • orangejulius says:
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            speaking of wrecking yourself…”We’re likely going to win 9 games with the possibility of winning a 10th”

            likely? possibility? that doesn’t sound like confidence when your next opponent is nichols state. but feel free to delude yourself that hoping for wins is progress; every team needs its apologists.

          • Jack says:
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            The jive 70’s called. They want their dumb one-liner back please.

      • mckalk says:
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        It would be progress if the program was on a steady path of greater improvement, this year kind of gets the team back to 2008, right? There was no season defining win and actually a couple of losses said more about the season than the wins.

        Marked improvement in some aspect of the program would be a North title, a P-12 title or a BCS bowl game. The rest is just swimming around in the same pool with about 56 other programs that go to a minor bowl game every year.

  • Will Overhead says:
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    Can’t help but think this loss will galvanize Angry and keep the site alive for another year at least, so there is a silver lining of sorts…

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Well, Stanford and Oregon are better than OSU, and OSU is probably right there with UCLA, so this team played itself out and revealed its true nature. We all know Riley’s going to lose at least one game he shouldn’t (Sac St, UW), and lose at least one he “coulda” won. Next throw in the annual thrashing by Kelly, and OSU’s right where Riley is capable of taking them. The “8-win cap” is right on (+ Nicholls State).

    This year we saw the benefits of coaching upgrades in Bray and Perry (who isn’t likely to stick around for too long). Again, how about some upgrades at the coordinators? Banker can’t solve the read-option, and with UO, UA, ASU, UCLA, do we really expect another 6-0 start? Langsdorf is a dew claw – vestigial, useless, but the form is reminiscent of something previously functional; oh yeah, a legitimate coordinator who could critically, creatively, and productively compliment the head coach!

    One or two effective coordinators and this team is good for another win.

  • Timber2002 says:
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    Over the last 3 weeks the Beavs rush D dropped from #2 in the country to #31

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      Tackling has gotten worse as the year went on. Really showed up against the good running teams.

  • Beavergopher says:
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    We should start scheduling a SEC level patsy every year after our guaranteed loss to the quacks.
    If Sean can keep his interceptions below six next week, we should still have a chance to pull out a last second victory with a Lettuce Boy FG. Then every Beavs fan can dial back on their Prozac…………….until after the bowl game.

  • Timber2002 says:
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    Sean Mannion now has 34 picks and is on pace to break Erik Wilhelm’s career record of 61

  • beav4ever says:
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    Watched replay of game.
    *Mannion was scared, he needs to be a back up.
    *Coaches need to look in mirror, 5 straight to ucks and been embarrassed in most.
    *Wheaton, I don’t know what to say.
    *Off. line did a good job, Mannions interceptions are not lines fault.
    *Tackling was horrible, we didn’t wrap up.
    *Banker must be replaced ASAP
    *Langsdorf must be replaced ASAP

    • Fightingbeaver says:
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      Under Barney Fife, it will never happen. Loyalty over brains.

    • Timber2002 says:
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      Ryan Murphy is a liability in run support.

    • Jack says:
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      Mannion wasn’t scared. He wasn’t great, but he wasn’t bad. The first pick was obvious PI. They could have called unnecessary hugging on the Nikegon DB on that play if they wanted. The second pick was completely Colin Kelly’s fault. He did ok this year, but he really is a sieve. I’ll be happy to see him graduate. And apparently josh Andrews is also excited about this, because he can’t wait until after the snap to go over and say bye.

      Five straight sucks.

      Wtf Wheaton?

      The second INT was completely Kelly’s fault. The third was completely Mannion’s fault, and nobody really cared about the fourth since it was just a “throw it up and hope something happens” type of play that point in the game was calling for.

      Wait… tackling is allowed?

      Idk about Banker. I will say I was calling each of the Ducks plays before each snap like I was psychic in the first half. You see so much more when at the game. It was so easy to see where the Ducks were going with the ball on each play. I wonder… is Banker in the box or on the ground? If I can get “you’re just creepy scary with these calls” statements from all the fans around me, I think Banker can probably do the same with a better perspective.

      Langsdorf is useless. I see little cohesive play from all the units on offense. It was there at the beginning of the year when all those kids worked hard in the off-season to be on the same page to start fall camp. But it has been coached out of them. Maybe the defense is the same, but I’m willing to chalk that one up to them just wearing down after 10 weeks with no break.

      • Jack says:
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        Oh… and throw Bruce Read on my bonfire as well.

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        I’d suggested earlier in the season Banker move up into the press box with Cavanaugh and relay calls to Bray on the sidelines. Lets Banker see more, provides for increased responsibility for Bray.

        Stanford played well again, will be interesting to see if they can repeat it three weeks in a row:

        “Brett Hundley, UCLA’s redshirt freshman quarterback, was 20 of 38 for 261 yards and a TD with one interception while being sacked seven times, and Johnathan Franklin, the Bruins’ leading career rusher, was held to 65 yards on 21 carries. Stanford entered ranked second nationally in sacks and rushing defense.

        Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/gameflash/2012/11/24/49821/index.html#ixzz2DFnpzQiC

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          Move Spanker to the press box and lossen the the bolts on the railing. HTF could this happen again?

  • Jack says:
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    Oh… and Mariota is not much more than he was in high school. He has wheels, and he fits in the Ducks’ system. But he is not a good QB. The next time you hear a Duck fan talk about Darron Thomas leaving because Mariota is just so awesome, tell them Thomas must really suck. He didn’t make any throws I couldn’t make. In fact, he missed a lot I would have made.

    That Josh Huff catch was the beginning of the end.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      As long as he’s effective in the system, what’s the criticism? They recruited him for their system, not USC’s or OSU’s. He’s put up fantastic numbers and is a freshman.

      I respect the fact that Kelly can get early production out of people, it offers the program more opportunities for legitimate bowl games. Riley’s system, and recruiting, puts the program in position for good QB play every three-four years, but due to the uneven recruiting, there’s usually some other unit of the team that’s down when the QB play is finally up (e.g. Canfield is good, LBs are weak).

      • Jack says:
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        He has major accuracy issues and a weak arm. He has great feet though.

        Agreed with the unit consistency. They seem to concentrate on just two or so units per recruiting cycle, and it shows years down the road. Can we imagine what this year would have been if many sophs and frosh were not good enough to make the two deeps?

        That’s a sign that recruiting is getting better. But they can’t let up now.

        • Jack says:
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          Speaking of recruiting, I saw Brayden Kearsley and Chad Bach yesterday.

        • Joe Avezzano says:
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          Major accuracy issues? Nope. Weak arm? You mean like on that long completed pass with the one-hand catch where he actually almost overthrew the receiver?

          Sounds like sour grapes to Joe Avezzano.

          As a famous person used to routinely say, “Scoreboard, baby!”

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            Heh heh… yes… where he almost overthrew the receiver. A good D1 QB drops it in there. That was a great catch on a bad throw.

            Even his quick hitches aren’t that great. He has a very slow release for that pass, and he was throwing behind a receiver who steps back for that pass… if he wasn’t trying to break the necks of worms at the receivers’ feet.

            I suppose you could say that our DB’s were all-world yesterday, and that’s why he only threw for what seemed like two yards at a time. He makes plays with his feet, not his arm. Darron Thomas was a much better QB.

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              “Much” better? Not just better, but much better?

              You’re wrong. And I’ll bet Joe Avezzano’s opinion would be shared by most of the defensive players who have lined up against both qbs.

              Let Joe put it this way…for every truly bad decision Mariota has made he probably has an equal number of sixty yard runs he’s peeled off. Oh yeah he’s not very good at all. Positively average.

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                “for every truly bad decision Mariota has made he probably has an equal number of sixty yard runs he’s peeled off.”

                I think Joe just made Jack’s point.

                • Jack says:
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                  Joe has made some weird arguments lately. And they seem to center on his man crush for everything Duck QB. It’s not surprising given the nature of Joe that this is reality. It is surprising that he is breaking form after i left him alone. He has been consistent up to a week or so ago.

                  Compare him to the lovebeaver character who claims he’s a female from the Philippines. That guy can’t decide between pretend broken English, nearly perfect English, Duck troll English and gobbledegook. And he can’t hold character for three posts over a half hour.

                  Joe made a good run at it.

                  • Joe Avezzano says:
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                    Your attempt to passive-aggressively besmirch Joe Avezzano’s good name is pathetic. Joe feels sorry for you.

                    Regarding “man crush”, Joe is merely trying to inject some reality to balance the curious “Mariota is barely adequate” style comments we’ve seen from you. For someone who claims to know a little something about football, dismissing the skills of someone who will most likely be voted the best qb in the Pac-12 means it is not Joe Avezzano who is guilty of misplaced bias.

                    Joe thinks there should be coined a phrase similar to “Godwin’s Law” that explains the tendency of some folks who, when their position is exposed as being riddled with large holes, resort to accusing those pointing out the folly of those views as being trolls.

                    Joe expected better. Very undignified.

                    As it pertains to “left him alone”, please don’t hold back with your poison pen. Joe can handle it.

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                    Who said he’s barely adequate? He’s simply not a good QB in the “old, non-NCAA” sense. He’s a great fit at Nikegon. And he’s probably a better fit there than Thomas was by his senior year. But he doesn’t have the same passing skills Thomas had, and as QB’s get older in that system they tend to choose pass more than they do run. I would too if I wasn’t a RB. It’s a natural progression.

                    I hope he stays and starts the remainder of his career there. What scares me more than anything is the kid who’s redshirting this year, Jake Rodrigues. That kid can really spin the ball. Unfortunately, the Ducks’ current system is lucky to survive a whole year without an injury to the QB, so we may see Rodrigues before his senior year. That will suck. The only thing that gives me hope is that Mariota does make plays with his feet. So he can maybe avoid that one hit that could end a season.

                    And Joe couldn’t help it. Joe had to drop the Hitler bomb. Joe can’t keep that false analogy from ruling his argument. Perhaps Joe should stop being overly defensive and just read the words.

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                    Oh… and Joe is guilty of two fallacies by dropping the Hitler bomb. The false analogy sets up a straw man.

                    Nice work Joe… who happens to think his straw man is an undignified argument.

                    Joe is not wrong.

          • mckalk says:
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            I think Riley would take a QB with 30 TD passes and six interceptions for a season. Mannion is going to throw six picks in a game sometime next year.

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    I look at OSU’s roster and wonder if they really shouldn’t flip the pass:run emphasis to run:pass. They have no clear winner at QB, a young but promising offensive line, and what should be a productive stable of Woods/Ward and Brown.

    But this line doesn’t really run block as well as it needs to. It’s like they get let off the hook because they can’t run block consistently well, OSU leans on the pass, and the run blocking never really develops as well as it might.

    Hopefully the off-season provides for a wide-open QB competition and an emphasis on run blocking. And tackling.

    What kind of crowd do you guys think shows up next week? 25-30K? Hope Harrington gets some significant playing time.

    • Beavergopher says:
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      Three juniors, a senior, and a freshman is not a young line.
      No excuse for the poor run blocking. When is Cav held accountable?
      Next year will be the boom cycle for our O-line with four returning starters, three being seniors.
      Then a probable down, bust year because of the uneven recruiting. Will be young then.
      Better make hay next year.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    A long-term thought, is Riley the equivalent of Rich Brooks-Rose Bowl appearance? Good guy, improved program competitively, took it as far as he could, 3 almost-rose-bowl seasons? The difference is the lack of a coordinator who is an upgrade over Riley. The UO model is not just power ranger uniforms and nike money, its Kelly>Bellotti>Brooks, the identification of limitations and appropriate timing to make a change.

    Soon we’ll be able to read about the long walk Riley took with his wife and dog today, and how, in today’s what-have-you-done-for-me-lately-world OSU is lucky to have Riley, then next year we’ll be back to a mediocre start to the season and another lame bowl game. Which of course brings us to the main impetus for this site; progressive change in pursuit of higher goals.

    It’s that time of year to again recognize Riley’s limitations and build upon the improvements he’s made rather than use the 28-year losing streak as the bar.

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    Looking at his bio, it looks like Leipold’s willing to move around some. Use some of that pac-12 money and get the guy out here. Time for Riley/Langsdorf coaching/friendship relationship to become one of just friendship.

    http://uwwsports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=845&path=football

    • Jack says:
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      Leipold’s a pipe dream.

      We’re stuck with two yard drag routes on 3rd and 5 for the next nine years plus.

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        But with YAC, those are usually good for three yards.

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          Yes… in the first two years of Riley’s second tenure. The same route by the TE is quicker, deeper and just as sure. I have no idea why that drag route is ever called except for me to complain about it.

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    Hope this kid comes to osu to help address the DT depth

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zl8KgKGQSU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  • ncaa_violation says:
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    Anybody else see danthony Thomas kick one of our guys after Poyer slammed him? What kind of little bitch kicks a guy? Especiallykicking somebody on the ground. And today he tweets out “we run this state”. Hope somebody calls him out cause a kick is worse than a punch and a punch can get you suspended

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    Nothing to see…. here move along…some old story. JB

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    Been reading everything here and I gotta say both sides are right. Definitely a better year… marked improvement… even beyond many of our expectations. BUT. Definitely we are limited because of our staff’s lukewarm recruiting and our poor poor coordinators.

    I think we will have a good team next year. Not sure what the answer is about the QB situation. But, next year can be a break out of the box year if we replace some coordinators… starting with Langsdork. I like Riley a lot. But he is the reason they can’t break out of the box in that he will not replace his coordinator friends.

    Oregon and Standford losses I can almost stomach because they were against good teams. Although both were winnable and that part hurts. Washington loss is the thorn in my side… no excuse for that one and i really suspect Langdork was a major reason for it.

    I agree with ObjCritic that we really need to open up our run game next year with the O-line we have and the running back stable we have. A good O-coordinator could make some adjustments and man with the players we got for next year we can put some hurt on people.

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    Sorry to pop everyone’s positive thinking and wishful thinking but Riley is once again in the drivers seat with a possible 10 game winning season and it is my belief he will not change anything, nothing, nada. With BDC’s protective backing he will do the same as this year.

    I agree totally with your positive “should do’s” especially with Trent Bray, but it won’t happen. I believe we will have a better team next season but with the same old Barney Fife leadership and his loyal staff of assistants. Rileys’ total happiness is a winning season and a possible toilet bowl. With this he will be there forever.

    It’s not that I want Beaver football program to get into BCS bowl every year or beat ucks every year, but 12+ years of no BCS and future of no Civil War wins is quite depressing in itself. There are so many Beaver fans who just live with what we get don’t care if Beavers are a top competitive team, especially against the ucks. Beaver Nation is a divided nation for sure.

  • Beaver Byte says:
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    How good could our return game have been this year and in the Civil War if we got Reggie Dunn like we were supposed to? He had back-to-back 100 yard kickoff returns against the Buffs. Sure would have been fun to see that 2 or more times at Reser this year or making a big difference in games such as @Washington and @Stanford. I have to think that could have been enough to have OSU in the Rose Bowl this year.

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      Dunn couldn’t qualify and went to JC.

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        I know, but why couldn’t OSU get him when he picked up his grades instead of him going to Utah? Sounds like OSU practically gave up on him at that point while Utah was still fighting for what they saw as an exciting prospect with blazing speed.

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    OT stuff:

    Watching some of the current and Pac-12 coaches make me wonder: Can Pete Carrol succeed in the NFL when he can’t necessarily stock a roster with more talent than the opposition (i.e like he did at USC)? It seems the draft and free agency level the playing field for him, and his results trends towards mediocrity. Granted, there’s quite a bit of youth at Seattle, but I really don’t see him doing much more than he did at NE.

    Is Harbaugh on the other hand, the best coach out of the Pac in recent years? He has been effective at Stanford and SF. The turnaround at each job was impressive. Imagine what he could have done at OSU.

    Jazquizz Rodgers with a good game in the win today, 10 carries 49 yards (long of 20), 2 catches 30 yards (long of 32).

  • Quatre says:
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    Sold my tickets for $300 a piece and went to a funeral instead. Although it sounds like attending the game would have been just as somber and I wouldn’t have an extra $600 in my pocket.

  • Dave Kragthrope says:
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    my thoughts:

    Langsdorf is a boob. The ducks kept cheating up a safety on first and second down as we predictably tried to run between the tackles forcing long third downs. Why did Riley turn the play calling back to him?

    How the hell do the ducks get by with holding as much as they do? It is an institution at Oregon and part of their blocking “technique”. I figure Kelly just bets they will only get so many flags in any given game and no ref wants to be the guy throwing flag after flag. Kelly is a smart dude though if he weren’t in football he would be running a Ponzi scheme.

    Special teams. Catch the football- that looked like the 1980’s special team. Poyer is a great DB, but we have got to move him off of punt returns- this has just happened one too many times with him.

    I hate ducks and their fans.

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      Welcome back Dave. Who’s next, Craig Fertig?

    • WFO says:
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      Poyer?

      Poyer wasn’t responsible for any of the special ed teams gaffes that I saw during this game or any other this year.

      Ward looked awesome in the return game. Wheaton not so much.

      Ward has quickly become my favorite back/return man. Jovan Stevenson should have had more return tries this year also.

    • Gdub says:
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      Wheaton and Kell are the two that fumbled on the KO and punt returns, not Poyer. Wheaton must have had crisco on his hands yesterday.

      • Jack says:
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        Poyer was the muffed punt in the third quarter after a nice defensive stop. The defense proceeded to make another nice stop immediately, but time of possession had to be horrible for us in the second half.

        • Jack says:
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          Check that. Just saw the replay, and it was Wheaton as WFO kinda says and Gdub definitively says.

          This is my first run through the replay. Sorry I got that wrong.

          • Gdub says:
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            we posted at the same time. Ignore my smart ass comment since I can’t delete it

            • Jack says:
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              You put this stuff out there. It’s like a drunk person apologizing the next day.

              Why think what you think if you’re going to conditionally apologize here and there?

              It seems like more work than it’s worth. I’m lazy by nature. Why do I have to manufacture some blame game for everyone else not paying me millions of dollars to just sit at home and do nothing? I wasn’t born the son of a defense contractor. I got over that reality early in life.

              • Gdub says:
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                only apologized because you saw your error and posted at the same time I posted my natural smart ass reply. No worries. All good.

                • Jack says:
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                  Keep telling yourself that. Whatever gets you through your life.

                  • Gdub says:
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                    awww. and all this time I thought we were gonna be friends. Guess that’s what I get for thinking huh? Let me try this instead, a black guy walks into a store and buys something…………..

                  • Jack says:
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                    You just can’t win for losing.

                    Why not screw the faux PC rant and just be right instead?

        • Gdub says:
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          *buzzer*. I’m sorry but that is not the correct answer. Dink, tell Jack what he’s won! Absofuckinglutely NOTHING!!!!! Watched it with my own 2 eyes. It WAS Wheaton. ESPN play by play agrees with me.

          4th and 14 at ORE 8 Jackson Rice punt for 41 yards, returned by Markus Wheaton for 1 yard, fumbled, recovered by Oregn Keanon Lowe at the Oregn 48.

          Still don’t believe me?

          http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=323290204&period=3

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    This was the year. Few injuries, lots of new coaches on opposing teams, and a moderate schedule. Excellent receivers, a good 1-2 punch at running back, excellent corners and a very much improved defensive front. Just do not make unforced errors and it’s an 11 win season. I only saw one game live and was shocked at the constant multiple player substitution scheme on every play, offense and defense. It reminded me of elementary school sports where you are required to play everyone equally. Yes, you do need to build depth. However, the constant running in and out disrupts rhythm, slows the pace to the point of predictability and gives your own the offense and defense little time to read their keys. The coaches are so busy shuffling guys in and out that they often forget that there is a team on the other side of the ball. They seem more interested in the choreography rather than the play. Keep moving them in and out until sumpin works. This is the curse of a rigid mindset that cannot figure out how to deploy its best weapons in the right place on the same field at the same time. This is the curse of mediocre coaching.

    • BeaverBill says:
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      Agree, and if they do this to rest guys how tiring is it to have to sprint on and off the field the whole game.

  • Beaver Byte says:
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    Best Bowl for OSU: Holiday or Alamo?
    http://beaverbyte.com
    #WintheWhale or #BeatTexas

    • Gdub says:
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      Alamo if it means getting to play Texas. Otherwise I’d prefer Okla State in either Alamo or Holiday

  • Jack says:
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    Holy crap!

    I just saw a replay of the Huff catch that was pretty much the back-breaker in this game.

    It wasn’t a catch. The damn ball skidded across the turf in front of him before he scooped it up in all his glory.

    I thought they reviewed such stuff.

    While I’m at it, Lyerla can’t block. In fact, he holds one every single play in which he does try to block. You know he story. You can call holding on every play if you want to do so. But only the obvious fouls get called.

    His holds were worse than obvious. He’d have a fistful of the back of someone’s jersey held up in their ear… or when he had Reynolds in a three second jam going nowhere while the ball carrier ran off Reynold’s backside from ten yards out. I’m not saying the Beavs are any more deserving than any other team and should get these calls. The Ducks have been getting away with them for years.

    But why are they not called?

    ?

  • PilingOn says:
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    I do not understand why the starters (Mannion, Wheaton, and Cooks) were playing late in this game. I was holding my breath on every play. I did not listen (or read) all post game comments from Riley on this. How did he justify leaving Cooks out there to be injured in the fourth quarter when we were down 31 points?

  • bendbeaver says:
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    Do people honestly think that a ten win team and a likely top 20 post season ranking is going to be firing coaches?

    • Timber2002 says:
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      probably right. Riley didn’t even fire anybody after 3-9. Will probably have to hope Banker gets his own gig and takes off.

    • Jack says:
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      I think top 15 at year’s end would be excellent. And I don’t care about expectations or how we did last year. I just think a top 15 finish is an excellent year. It’s better if we go to a BCS game, but the perception of two other Pac teams already in BCS bowls and us in the top 15 is just as strong. So I would say the team had a very successful year if we reach 10 wins.

      That being said, special teams has been poor for a while now. Great athletes have made great plays, but the mistakes have outweighed the great plays by a bunch. Couple that with Read being paid on the high end for an assistant at OSU and his relative worth (none) as a recruiter. This is a guy who let the best punter in the country leave for another team who wanted him and failed to coach up the talent he had in place, that which he chose to go with instead.

      And what do we do with Langsdorf? It seems that this year more than any the offense regressed as the season wore on. It looked like the players had themselves ready to play, and they’ve been coached (and play-called) out of sync. If Langs isn’t making the head-scratching calls we see, then he at least has to shoulder some burden for quality control. I understand his value as a recruiter is higher than many on the team, but people like Brasfield and Brennan show us that may be overstated and easily replaced.

      Banker’s going nowhere. I won’t even waste time on him and his situation… unless BC comes calling? Never mind.

      Will we keep the two weak links? Will they use the excuse you stated, our successful season, as the fallacy for a flawed conclusion to keep the status quo? Knowing this team, I would say yes. I’m about 99% certain Langs stays unless someone somewhere wants him as a head coach. But I wouldn’t count out the possibility that Bray stays, Read goes and Locey takes over ST.

      If that were to happen, then OSU will have actually walked the talk of “evaluation” and “progress.” I think there’s little doubt Read should be evaluated out of his job.

  • 3GBeavs says:
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    Quote from Riley Sunday night:

    “Riley also commented he would not ask the Conference to review a play where Poyer appeared to have been stomped on, saying his tape cut off the incident, and he hadn’t seen a replay of it.”

    HOLY CRAP! I saw it at the game, saw it on the replay, and you can google search and find it.

    C’mon Riley. A copy can be provided for you! If you don’t want to submit for a review then give a reasonable explanation.

    Why can’t he stand up for his players? Just like Quizz during the Washington State game a couple years back. I sure miss players like Richard Seigler who would take care of their own.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    “old man football” at Georgia:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/stewart_mandel/11/25/alabama-georgia-notre-dame-bcs-overtime/index.html?sct=cf_t11_a0

    Kinda funny. I didn’t realize Georgia had so much talent on defense (potential high draft picks).

    While OSU obviously runs a pro set, again, I think with this roster (and next year) there needs to be greater emphasis on the run game. Hell, I’d like to see Woods/Ward both going over 100 this Saturday, with Harrington throwing about 20 passes.

    Read Texas-Tech could end up being a bowl opponent – that’s not a very compelling match up. Hopefully Beavs get Texas or Oklahoma State (another spread team!).

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    At least the OSU players want Nicholls State game. Hair-of-the-dog for another CW hangover. Maybe it will make them feel better about themselves and make bowl prep better.

    • Fightingbeaver says:
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      Poor Nicholls State, game re-scheduled so Riley could get an additional in the “win” column. Players and coaches of Nicholls State alike were hit by a major hurricane with their some of their families losing homes and all their possessions. I hope the money Nicholls St. gets for the game helps them out a bit.

      Whatever bowl game we get I hope our opponent is not to tough. With Riley at the helm, his record for winning in pressure games is lacking. I doubt if he cares one way or another. His bonus comes just by getting the bowl game.

      • bendbeaver says:
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        Do you know what Riley’s bowl record is?

        • SadBeaver says:
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          He either does and is trolling or doesn’t and is a moron(and trolling), I am not sure which is worse. His spelling indicates the latter, but I digress.

          • Fightingbeaver says:
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            Hay Riley lover…….only a troll knows trolls, and you are the biggest troll of all. By the way, you missed a space between moron and your parenthesis. I can see your grammar is that of a 6 year old. Get a life.

        • Fightingbeaver says:
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          Let’s see, are you talking about all the toilet bowls he has gotten the team to. Well in that case we must hold the record for the Pac for toilet bowls. I really don’t give a rats ass what his record is with toilet bowls. OH, what is his record with Beavers going to BCS bowls……………ZERO! Assbite.

        • rsteve503 says:
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          Dont mean to be a wet blanket, but what exaxtly is Riley’s bowl record the past three years?

      • ObjCritic says:
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        Great bowl record, and the bowls are non-pressure bowls, so don’t worry about that. Going to a Holiday or even Alamo bowl is nice, but there isn’t much tangible on the line. May be a slight movement in the #16 ranking one way or the other, but that’s about it.

        Probably the biggest pressure is putting on a good show and getting a win for recruiting purposes.

        • ncaa_viOlation says:
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          If we’re playing Ok State in the bowl, gotta think a win would help sway Luke Del Rio our way

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            Nice video on Luke and his dad with story of Peyton Manning’s influence on Luke. It sounds like he’s set on Ok State here, but knows the QB situation isn’t great there and he’d likely have stiff competition for the starting job.
            Does anybody know if he’s still considering Oregon State? Haven’t heard anything in quite a while.

            • Jack says:
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              I think he’s sold on oSu. I’d be surprised if he switched at a late date. I think he feels he can take the job despite the depth, which makes him more appealing but less likely as a Beav prospect.

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    JUCO DB Steven Nelson, the former Georgia verbal commit who has been rumored to be interested in OSU, just sent out this tweet:

    Steven Nelson ?@Nelson_Island

    #Beavernation

    Wonder if that’s his way of saying he’s made up his mind?

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