24.Nov.2012 Civil War Oregon @ Oregon State
Game thread.
Go Beavs
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FatDog says:
I have a good feeling about today. Here’s how it goes:
The beavs jump out to an early 7 point lead because the dux have not used all of their uniforms this season and they are distracted by having to change into 10 new ones during time-outs. Then, the helmets start stacking up. Which goes with which? Does the chrome one go with the human highlighter outfit? Does the stealth black go with the chartreuse pants and gray top? What about the one that changes colors? Where is that “dress the dux football player” app? Then, with seconds to go and a chance to tie and send the game into overtime, the dux put on their last uniform. It is, oh my god, orange! The only color the dux have not yet used. With both teams in orange, Mariotta throws an interception to Poyer and he runs 99 yards for a beaver touchdown. The beavs win 14 to 0. Chip Kelly, distraught, runs on to the field and in a fit of anger rips off his jersey and reveals he does indeed need a man bra. Very much so. -
BeavJailbreak says:
Link
http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/155196/1/watch-5-oregon-vs-15-oregon-state.html
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OneEyedKing says:
Two throws to start the game. Classic Riley.
I fully expect a “We needed to be more balanced, establish the run more” in about 2 hours.
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5 straight passes including the penalty-play that was also a pass. Just wow, Riley.
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UO runs it all over us, so what do they do this drive? 3 passes. The spirit of Mike Riley compels you!
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mckalk says:
It’s been three years since a Beaver has really stepped it up in the Civil War. Kostol should have buried that punt inside the 10. I’m starting to buy into Angry’s psychology theories.
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HopefulBeav says:
Crowd looks awesome as well. Love that the announcer says it looks about 98% OSU fans.
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steveEbeaver says:
Barner with 105 yds in the 1st Q. But we’re ahead on the scoreboard. Might be a strange day in Corvallis.
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Barner runs for 300 yards, Ducks lose by 10? lol.
Mariotta might run for 200 as well.
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beavis24 says:
Why is it that other teams make it look so easy, and we seem to make it look so hard??
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Fightingbeaver says:
We are not going to beat the ducks with field goals. But that’s all Riley can produce.
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Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
Yeah we should just go for a touchdown there and end up with no points at all. Man I sure wish you were on the sidelines today.
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All doom and gloom aside, if we can get points after the half we got ourselves a game. If Barner can’t return then were in business. DAT may be explosive but he doesn’t have half the vision Barner does.
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Mud&Sticks says:
Obviously just a WAG but it looked like they were checking out his shoulder or rib area.
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Definitely should have called the TO with 30 seconds remaining, instead of letting the clock tick down and saving it in-case we needed to set up our FG. Judgment call, but a bad one.
20-10 at the half. Basically everyone has had bright spots and blown plays, same with UO, but they’ve gotten the big plays and we haven’t. Also 1 TO to 0.
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It was like Riley was so afraid that the ducks were going to get the ball back he didn’t want to manage the clock to put us in position to score.
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angry says:
That’s exactly what I saw. But you never know…since he is so bad at clock management, he might have just thought that’s how to play out the half. Not one shot at the end zone. Really bad coaching.
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It’s something with “Luck O’ the Beavs” because Ericksen was a shitty clock manager also. So Riley went into half with a TO in his pocket, right?
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It looks like the fucking Pac-12 just shut down the Just In stream and maybe the first row stream too.
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BTW, really dumb idea to defer when we won the coin flip. UO feeds off scoring first, and they’ve done it 7 out of 10 weeks. And then did today.
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Ten points a half ain’t going to cut it. I say 28 points gets us the game. Can we find the O?
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Wow, OSU 1/6 on third downs…
UO not great on 3rd….
Penalties advantage OSU…
Sacks even….
TO advantage UO…
The big difference is Barner so far. Somebody should have suggested keying on him stopping him.
UO only about 100 yards away from their CW rushing average, with a half to go.Will Mark “The Adjuster’ Banker come through at half time?!? Guesses anyone? Kelly must LOVE playing against Banker.
Riley CANNOT win pressure games, and his players are reflecting his inability to respond to pressure.
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I think some Beav players missed big opportunities to be stars and Riley “head-scratched” again with time management at the end, but it doesn’t feel hopeless like the last couple of years. If they score out of halftime I will be impressed, but unless the defense can get two turnovers, I think a “W” will be out of reach.
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I’m sure BDC doesn’t want to get too much into coaching details in evaluating Riley on an annual basis, but how cannot he not look at Riley’s empirically poor clock management and say “You have to improve here Mike. This isn’t acceptable?”
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BDC should reduce Riley’s contract by one year for every game where he doesn’t use his timeouts in the first half.
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orangejulius says:
duck leading receiver is Lyerla with 26 yards, can we please put the dbs in one on one and commit to stopping the run
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What’s with Mannion’s arm?
Remember the CW where Maevao(sp?) threw two pick-6′s on deep outs, then we find out later he had a bum shoulder? Wonder if Mannion does too?
I couldn’t believe they called deep outs like htat knowing his shoulder was compromised.
Getting that Riley feeling, you know, where you HOPE you get breaks to fall your way because you don’t think the coaches/team are going to get it done?
And a kick to the 33…
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OH MY GOD!!!
Special teams is fucking us again. Cannot believe that fucking moron choking up the ball. Just amazing. Nice fucking hands you scrub.
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I can’t believe how many miss tackles by our defense. This is just basic defensive shit……it shows how prepared team was to play this game. Poor coaching as usual. Riley said in a interview yesterday that watching the Stanford vs. Oregon game would not do any good. You can’t learn from what Stanford did to stop the Ducks. A good example of a stupid statement and an idiot coach.
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He said theres nothing to learn there because there isn’t. Stanford did everything that all the other teams did, the only thing they did differently was not miss tackles. There’s no secret “blueprint” to beat the ducks, you just have to tackle well. A good example of a stupid comment by a stupid poster.
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Fourth and 6, they run it up the middle for a 30+ yard TD. GG guys, I’m done. Fuck this defense, fuck Banker, and fuck our LBs. Absolute garbage.
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Gdub says:
well, 17 points was enough for Stanford. Has Banker EVER come up with a good defensive game plan to stop oregon? I’ll take dumbshit defensive coordinators for $500 Alex. And get rid of Bruce read. Other than Kostol our special teams have been real special this year. And when I say special I mean Corky from “Life Goes On” could coach as well as Bruce Read.
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Riley looks out of answers, defeated.
Watch Lyerla come in to run late after Thomas does more damage….
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I think Riley was pissed that he hitched his wagon to Mannion. Looks like a big mistake now.
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I wish somebody would look Riley in the eye and ask:
“Do you think you can ever beat a healthy Chip Kelly-coached Duck team?”
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Defense is doing pointless celebrating and pumping, it’s like the pressure is off because they know their not going to win.
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Sad thing is that it doesn’t take a perfect game to beat the Ducks, but it takes a damn good game which the Beavs were unable to achieve due to very poor execution.
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Beaver game falling apart by the minute. Players are getting frustrated and will most likely make mistakes. Riley has lost total control of the game as usual. Barney Fife goes home after the game and walks his dog after a hug from BDC. How many more years of this idiot do we have to put up with?
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Boy, I hope we don’t have any recruits in Corvallis watching this game. What a complete turnoff for anyone who might be interested in the program.
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Just curious, I haven’t heard much from Dylan Wynn lately, did the weight he gained make him a step slow this year?
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Missed tackles, drops, bad decisions by the QB, muffed kicks. I’m no Riley apologist but this game is on the players, often times they were in positions to make plays and they didn’t. I’m sure if you really wanted to you could somehow find a way to convince yourself that it’s Rileys fault we lost this game but today the players stepped onto the field an shit their pants. And don’t gimme this “preparation” crap, if they tackle each other in practice, then they’re prepared to tackle in games, if the receivers catch the ball in practice, then they’re prepared to catch the ball.
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Bottom line is all the stuff you are talking about are supposed to be attained in training and practice. this is basic shit. Riley and his staff are responsible for this and preparing the individual player for each game, including how to catch a ball, executing plays and knowing how to tackle. Riley makes the bucks and he is responsible. To put blame on players in a typical Mike Riley norm. Don’t go there.
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100% agree. It got out of hand at the end but I thought throughout the first 3 quarters our players were in positions to make plays and just failed again and again. I’m in shock at how bad our players executed their jobs today.
On that same note, what the hell happened to Wheaton today? I’m not a fan of picking on individual players but I think you could make a very easy case that Wheaton did immeasurable damage to OSU’s chances of pulling off the upset.
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Agree, 12 years of mediocrity and frustration. How much does it take to make Beaver Nation down right mad and tired of Riley’s shit. Riley has taken OSU football to its lowest level in 20 years. My fire riley T shirts have just gone up in value again.
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GoBeavs90 says:
This loss is a team effort. Coaches did a poor job preparing the team but the players shit the bed. Fumbles on kickoffs and punts is inexcusable. Pathetic effort in the 2nd half. Team just mailed it in.
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Why do you say they weren’t prepared? They’ve been shut down and made mistakes but that doesn’t mean they weren’t prepared.
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Boy, I’ve never been on this site before and won’t return. You are the most negative,
critical people I have ever seen/read. Gosh, we’ve just had a great season and yes, this has been a bad game, but try to look on the positive.Mike Riley is an awesome coach and does amazing things with the talent he gets. He coaches his players up. It’s hard to recruit with U of Oregons reputation and program. Get off your negative bandwagon and support this team!
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What’s so great about it. 12 years and not one BCS bowl? Our standards for Beaver football are much higher than yours. Get a life.
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I do have a life. Love football and love OSU. My husband graduated from there and we bleed orange. I just hate negativity but apparently you guys need to vent. I don’t like losing either, especially the way we are losing today, and especially to Oregon, but it is what it is. I respect Riley and hate seeing him blasted.
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“You are the most negative, critical people I have ever seen/read.”
Notice the title of this site is “Angry Beavs: A Critical View of Oregon State Athletics”. What did you expect?
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FedUpBeav says:
I’m ready to move on to a coach who can actually win any game with higher stakes in over a decade of trying. Riley hasn’t yet and will continue to come up short. I’ll take Sonny Dykes right now! Even think Utah St’s coach would be much more capable of a big win than Riley. How many years do we have to keep doing this Groundhog’s Day?
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See that’s what makes Kelly a f-ing genius, just that little adjustment of “ground ball” kick offs, Ward broke off some nice returns in the 1st half, so Chipster says “enough of that bullshit” and makes a change and greatly effects the game.
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OrangeFlush says:
I dont know if Chip is a genius or not but what he is is NOT afraid. He is decisive. He takes risks, hes gambles and his players love it. He sees a problem and he acts. He doesn just kick the turf, say aww shucks and think about it for a half a game.
Riley is paralized by fear and only knows ONE way to do anything. Hes a victim of his his own mediocre success. Hes thinks he can tweak his system just a little and make is significantly better and hes wrong.
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Another intercept. I can’t watch anymore. shutting stupid game down. You guys have a great Christmas. Who gives a shit about pouncing on poor Nicholls St. I feel sorry for our players.
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Me, too. Horrible last pac 12 game. I wish we weren’t playing Nichols but maybe we need the practice.
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Looking forward in watching USC and ND game tonight. I hope USC can overtake ND. I think the little green lepro…..whatever are overrated. I predict Stanford beats UCLA also.
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Shit, I’m rooting for ND unfortunately because I can’t have any chance of Oregon getting to their “natty” again.
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If USC wins Oregon will go to the title game.
Not that I disagree with that, they’re the best or second best team. It would still suck to watch them in that game again, and eventually they’re going to win one.-
they won’t if Kelly leaves after this year to the NFL. Which I predict he will be the next coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. And eventually it would be nice if the NCAA got off their asses and put them back about 10 years.
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tim318 says:
Ducks have jump over Florida to get into the BCS championship if ND loses. It could line up as another all SEC championship.
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absolutely unacceptable to lose 5 straight to your rival. 4 of them have not even been close. This fucking sucks. Now I have to hear it from the rest of my family for another year. I swear to god the first dick fan that gets in my face and starts crowing about how awesome they are and the beavers suck is going to get cockpunched. Anyone want to start a bail fund for me?
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I might have to join you in your cell. Oh wait, with the overcrowding they will most likely let us go.
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Mannion’s dad’s team got slaughtered in the 2nd half last night in the high school playoffs. Bad weekend for the Mannion family!
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What do you think Riley would say if he saw Kelly laughing it up on the sidelines?
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There’s some serious assessment that needs to go on with the QB position, right? Mannion is a turnover machine, can Vaz win more games? I don’t know, but both these guys are back. I think it’s time the Beavs moved into the decade and find dual threat QB. There’s got to be a Russell Wilson clone somewhere!
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Dwill03 says:
I’m not the biggest Riley fan out there, but for those who rush here to trash him: he was coaching a good aggressive game and the players shit the bed. If you want to blame him for Kell and Wheatons consecutive bone headed fumbles that blew the game open then your a fool. The ducks capitalized on bad turnovers. Not much you can do to overcome that. Stay healthy through Nichols date and win you bowl game.
Go beavs
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I blame Riley for 12+ years of mediocre football. I blame Riley for not being able to train or prepare his team to play and win games they should win with the talent they have. Period.
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Grape says:
Erm.. look previously behind those 12 years… you won’t like what you see. The last 12 years have been above average if you look at it. However, still agree Riley needs to go to move forward.
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If Riley had cajones he would realize that even symbolically it would be a show of strength to cut Banker loose and prove to the faithful that OSU football has matured to the point where losing the civil war five years in a row is not acceptable whether you go to a minor bowl game or not. It’s not going to happen though.
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SadBeaver says:
Defense actually played well considering all the turnovers. As much as I want to blame the coaches… this one is mostly on the players. I do blame Riley for not pulling Sean….and the special teams coach should be fired, but overall this was 85% on the players. Particularly disturbing was the drops by Marcus.
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Mannion’s last four games:
Washington State 1 TD 3 INT
Washington 1 TD 4 INT
Cal 4 TD 1 INT
Oregon 1 TD 4 INTSeeing a theme here? He’s not ready. Vaz has 8 TDs and 1 INT(plus a few fumbles). This isn’t even a contest anymore.
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Timber2002 says:
like everybody said before the game…this was about running the ball and stopping the run. Well Oregon ran the living shit out of the ball and we looked like we never saw a zone read before in our life. Does Mark Banker know what the option is? Does he know they are trying to get to the edge?
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Mannion is just not our franchise QB. Really hoping someone steps up next year, preferably someone that can scramble. Mannion just makes too many poor decisions and his throws are just not up to par.
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The big problem is traditionally, Riley sticks with his experienced QB’s. To have Harrington play next year we need a new head coach and preferably a new AD also.
Going with Harrington next year would be a good move and also recruit for better quality QB, now not a priority in Riley’s book.
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I don’t agree at all, Riley showed with Mannion last year that he will go with the best player. Do you even follow Beaver football at all?
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bendbeaver says:
The turnovers and the subsequent loss is on the team, not the coaches. Shut the fuck up about this being the coaches fault. The players dropped the balls, not Riley.
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Kenjon Barner had 150+ yards rushing in the first half. Banker has had 5 years to come up with something to stop the spread. That’s on the players???? Uh huh. Stanford showed the blue print on how to stop them. Riley and Banker shit the bed and the players followed suit.
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no but our players do that every year against the spread. THAT is on the coaching staff. You need to put your players in a position to be successful. Whatever the fuck Banker has done the last 5 years DOESN’T WORK!!!! Isn’t the definition of madness doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?
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Nope. That’s not remotely the definition of madness. It is the colloquially quoted definition of insanity as first presented by Rita Mae Brown in an early 80′s novel. It’s a stupid definition. It’s not worth my time to type these words.
Whatever… you don’t care, nor will you ever care.
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But I do agree about the DC not being able to figure out how to defend the spread. Shoulds and ifs suck as a defensive scheme.
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Bullshit. Defenders miss tackles throughout the whole game. Riley dropped the ball by not having his players prepared to play this game. Blaming the players is just juvenile thinking. Riley gets the money not the players. Riley and his flunky staff are the one’s responsible for the loss to the ucks. We don’t have to “shut the fuck up”.
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@ bendbeaver I agree it’s on the players and their talent and skill level. They aren’t as as talented as the ‘uck players.
So because of piss poor recruiting and piss poor training the team got their asses kicked.
Oh, wait maybe it isn’t on the players after all.
IT’S TIME TO FIRE BDC!!!!!!!
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It would be pretty impressive for Riley to be fired after people hyped him for Coach of the Year. No chance BDC has the balls.
The team would be a lot better off if RIley hired a pair of hungry young coordinators:Banker is too set in his losing ways to change and adapt, and Langsdorf can’t handle the OC job at all. Then maybe the team would try to innovate, adapt, or at least make half-time adjustments. Bray was a good start, but he’s too far down the totem pole.
Riley’s staff definitely fucked the game up by their complete inability, for the 5th year now, to stop the Spread Read. I liked the individual play calls, but the ratio was still way off; too many passes, ignoring the run for stretches at a time. But also the players, especially the linebackers, missed too many tackles and failed to make plays, while Mannion missed open receivers and threw too many picks.
Plenty of blame to go around, as usual.
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GreatWhiteHunter says:
Mannion is terrible. Wheaton had the worst game of his life. Two special teams turnovers. Our players wilted I. The big stage. Wilted. No shows. Not schemes, not play calls. The boys played without confidence, without swagger. Failure to execute.
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Nothing will ever happen to Mike Riley as long as Fuddy Duddy BDC is AD. DeCareLess and Riley are like Barney Fife and Andy. BDC will protect MR at all times. We are stuck with both…….our loss.
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Which team had the most talent: UW or WSU?
Which team wanted to win the most?
Imo the reason the Cougs didn’t Coug it was because of who their head coach is and what he brings to the team.
For a lot of reasons Riley has to go if OSU wants to take it to the next level.
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WSU wanted to win the most in the Apple Cup just like Stanford wanted to win the most against Oregon. Yes, their coaches instilled in them the mental attitude to win. Mike Riley is incapable of doing the same. Gee wiz, gosh golly, darn nab it……………..
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Fwiw
USC vs the Domers: http://www.justin.tv/cajunlive99#/w/4241869712/4
Furd vs UCLA: http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/155210/1/watch-8-stanford-vs-17-ucla.html
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This season has been weird. Based on today’s game I feel like there’s not a hell of a lot of difference between 3-9 and 9-3 when everyone in the middle of the P-12 is fairly equal. It boils down to a bounce here or an injury there for a W or L.
I thought the Beavs would probably lose, but I was anticipating a closer, harder fought game. Today’s result feels like zero progress has been made in closing the gap. Depressing.
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It looks like USC’s first starter quarterback is playing better than our experienced QB. Shows what good training and being prepared to play against a team like ND can do. I can tell the Trojans really want to win this game…………..good mental attitude again.
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That’s what I don’t get. I guess it’s depth, but guys come off the bench and light it up all across the nation and the Beavs QB’s have to go through this stupid two year process to learn and mature in “Riley’s system”.
Maybe it’s just the talent gap. I was watching Duck basketball last night and they had a freshmen come in and takeover the game whereas Beav freshmen are tentative and just playing limited roles. I hate it, but this talent difference seems to be the new reality in trying to compete with the Ducks.
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To your comment fightingbeav, Max Wittek is a blue-chip recruit so you probably saw him performing better than Mannion did in his first start because he is better than Mannion.
To your comment Mckalk, that freshman you saw for UO lighting it up was most likely Dominic Artis, also a Blue-Chip point recruit.
The issue with both cases you guys have listed isn’t a matter of coaching and preparation, its a matter of talent. Wittek is more talented than any of our QBs (hence why he is at USC) and Artis is far more talented than any of our freshman players.
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Ackrite says:
Today sucked but they had a free photo booth setup in the truex center that you could get your picture with Terry Bakers heisman trophy, they let you touch and pose with it. As a huge sports fan this will be a something I remember for a long time. Best OSU sponsored pregame experience ever , too bad the game sucked
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Tree wins. With Floriduh winning the dicks will be regulated to the Fiesta Bowl against the Big-12 champion. No “natty” for you. Again. I love it. As pissed as I am about today’s result I am ok with either the Alamo or Holiday bowl against a Big-12 opponent. But, the question now becomes how do you take that next step the following year Riley? If history repeats itself, you don’t. Why haven’t the bowl games and wins in the past resulted in recruiting better talent? That is the question I want answered.
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bowlgame2020 says:
You love that the ducks may end up in the Fiesta Bowl with a major payout and endless exposure on ESPN that will only help their national recruiting. The Fiesta Bowl will give them almost as much exposure as the Championship game and is in Arizona which makes it easier for their fans to get to. 4 BCS bowls in a row will not hurt their image. Until we beat them, their not going to the National Championship game is no solace to most of us.
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yes. since every other member of my family are dick fans it would be unbearable if they played for and won the national championship. Does it suck they will be in a BCS bowl game for the 4th year in a row? Fuck yes it does, but it pales in comparison to having to listen to them crow about a national championship.
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I think to the ucks the Beaver football program is a joke. They know as long as Riley is head coach they will win the Civil War every year. That sucks.
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This game is a bigger disappointment than most realize. Oregon was playing with their 3rd string safety, a defensive line with major injuries, a hurt running back and a first year quarterback. They put up the most rushing yards of the season 430. with a depleted offensive line. I don’t want to even think what might have happened if they were a full strength. 5 CW losses in a row and next years game in Eugene. Mark Banker absolutely must go! He has never come close to stopping Chip Kelly.s offense. I know that this will never happen since I heard Riley say that he and Banker had been together forever. This means that as long as Kelly is at Oregon, the BEAVS will not beat the ducks. We can only hope the NFL shows mercy on us.
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Thanks for player info. I don’t think it will matter whether Chip leaves Oregon or not. Oregon, with a winning attitude will just hire a head coach as good as Kelley, so our chances of Civil War victory with Riley at the helm just goes out the window. For being such a “nice guy”, he stays for his ego and not the betterment of the football team……I see that a selfish.
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The football team is fine, just not what you want it to be. Outside this blog many see this season as a wild success. We’re likely going to win 9 games with the possibility of winning a 10th after a 3-9 season a year ago. Riley will stay because the majority of the fan base doesn’t need a BCS berth to call a season a success. They witnessed 28 consecutive losing seasons (or at least a good amount of them) and the fact of the matter is that this team is a good team, this program is a good program and the coach of it is a good coach. But to reach BCS bowls with the resources OSU has, they need a great coach. Sure Riley’s not a great coach but to say he’s making the program worse, or that he has the program at its lowest point in 20 years is just absurd.
You know what the record of the 1992 OSU football team was? 1-9-1, a winning pct of a whopping .136, and a 10th place finish in the PAC-10.
Look, we aren’t as good as the Ducks, but that sure as shit doesn’t mean were bad. We aren’t even average or “middle of the road”. We’re good. If that isn’t good enough for you, that’s fine, I want more too. But your comments about Riley are uneducated and stupid.
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Outside this blog?
I was at the game yesterday, and this blog is a happy fluffy sparkly Beav cheerleading squad compared to what I heard from the crowd at Reser. I thought the pollyannas would be apologists for this game, but I heard several complaints at the half about Riley and clock management. And a mostly empty stadium in the fourth quarter of Reser’s largest crowd ever told me they were talking with their feet.
But you know, negative people like me stood in the rain until the clock hit zero… cheering for my team. I could have been a pollyanna and bugged for the shelter of my tailgate/bar/restaurant/home. But that doesn’t sound like something a fan does.
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The Beavs have a much better team this year, yet the result is almost identical to last year (49-21 vs 48-24). It was actually worse at 48-17 until the late garbage TD. Zero progress.
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But the weak links are still the weak links, i.e. DT and LBs. It’s like staves in a barrel, it doesn’t matter how tall the tallest staves are the barrel won’t hold more water until the smaller staves are replaced. Then you turn the ball over 6 times to their 0 and I’m surprised the score wasn’t more lopsided.
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BCS title game is a joke once again. ND as the #1 team? lol
Another year I won’t be watching the game (Watched Oregon/Auburn and USC/Texas in the past decade). Passed on every other game.
Playoff can’t come soon enough.
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Doesn’t matter, Alabama is the best team in the country and they’ll win so to me the BCS worked this year. Sure, ND shouldn’t be there and Oregon probably should, but as long as the best team wins in the end, it’s a success in my book.
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How do you know Bama is the best? Who have they played which tells you this? Who has anyone in the SEC played? They’ll now have a month to prepare for some ridiculous bowl game that I’ll have forgotten about once again… until the day after when I say, “Oh, apparently the BCSCG was played last night. Oh well.”
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was pretty shocked to read that the father of Mike Riley’s grandchild is Jovan Stevenson.
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mckalk says:
Yup, it’s there in Egger’s story (he’s a friend of Riley’s), but it’s been mentioned here or at least alluded to before.
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yes I make lots of jokes that the PC buttholes consider to be in poor taste. Either that or I am racist as hell. Pick one. Doesn’t matter to me
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beav4ever says:
As I have said all along the Beavs do not have a D1 qb and that killed them today. I know that Banker has no clue and that Riley will never get us over the hump but what happened to Wheaton, Poyer,Wynn and our tackling on def.
I left the game today not impressed with the UO, they are a good team but not a national title contender. We gave them way to many opportunities(Mannion and Wheaton)
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The toilet seat fans were the worst I have ever seen “and that’s saying A LOT” today. 40YO man cussing out an 8YO boy rooting for the Beavers (just one example). The whole day was just a horrible experience. We were surrounded by these douchbags and all we could do was sit on our hands and take it. They are so bad it has gotten to the point I wont go back to the civil war in 2 years.
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The group behind me was just a stupid fucking group. The PA announcer would call each play, “pass to so-and-so for such-and-such yardage.” And this group of idiots would complain every time and laugh that he was saying, “Vaz to so-and-so….”
Every. Single. Time.
Yup… 3 hours of this only to be rewarded near the end when the PA called a TD for the Beavs when Barner walked into the end zone.
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silverstream055 says:
Here is BDC’s utterly predictable post-debacle analysis:
“”This isn’t the result we wanted to have in this particular game, but when you look at the whole season it’s a tremendous turnaround,” OSU athletic director Bob De Carolis said. “The coaches and the players are to be commended for that…..Last year, we weren’t having this conversation,” De Carolis said. “We’re headed in the right direction.”
http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2012/11/goe_all_is_not_lost_for_the_be.html
A fish rots from the head, and the head is BDC. Significant progress will not and cannot occur until BDC is gone. And there is no reason to think that will happen soon, I’m sorry to say….
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3-9 last year to 9-3 and potentially 10-3 this year is what some would call significant progress.
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“potentially 10-3″ ? You’re not confident that the Beavs can beat a team like Nichols State? I would say that is the very definition of a lack of progress.
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We’re 8-3 now. I said 9-3 and potentially 10-3 because I assumed we will beat nicholls st for win no. 9 and potentially win our bowl game which would give us 10 wins. Check yourself before you wreck yourself.
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speaking of wrecking yourself…”We’re likely going to win 9 games with the possibility of winning a 10th”
likely? possibility? that doesn’t sound like confidence when your next opponent is nichols state. but feel free to delude yourself that hoping for wins is progress; every team needs its apologists.
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It would be progress if the program was on a steady path of greater improvement, this year kind of gets the team back to 2008, right? There was no season defining win and actually a couple of losses said more about the season than the wins.
Marked improvement in some aspect of the program would be a North title, a P-12 title or a BCS bowl game. The rest is just swimming around in the same pool with about 56 other programs that go to a minor bowl game every year.
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Well, Stanford and Oregon are better than OSU, and OSU is probably right there with UCLA, so this team played itself out and revealed its true nature. We all know Riley’s going to lose at least one game he shouldn’t (Sac St, UW), and lose at least one he “coulda” won. Next throw in the annual thrashing by Kelly, and OSU’s right where Riley is capable of taking them. The “8-win cap” is right on (+ Nicholls State).
This year we saw the benefits of coaching upgrades in Bray and Perry (who isn’t likely to stick around for too long). Again, how about some upgrades at the coordinators? Banker can’t solve the read-option, and with UO, UA, ASU, UCLA, do we really expect another 6-0 start? Langsdorf is a dew claw – vestigial, useless, but the form is reminiscent of something previously functional; oh yeah, a legitimate coordinator who could critically, creatively, and productively compliment the head coach!
One or two effective coordinators and this team is good for another win.
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I can give two craps about the 8 game thing. Any of you out there knows what Duck fan throws in our faces whenever this comes up. Riley has never had a season with less than four losses.
Make this the first year!
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Beavergopher says:
We should start scheduling a SEC level patsy every year after our guaranteed loss to the quacks.
If Sean can keep his interceptions below six next week, we should still have a chance to pull out a last second victory with a Lettuce Boy FG. Then every Beavs fan can dial back on their Prozac…………….until after the bowl game.-
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So we don’t end the year with a loss Jack. No reason to think MR ever beats Chippy.
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Since Chipster will be in Philly next year, I think a bye week before the CW would be nice.
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Sean Mannion now has 34 picks and is on pace to break Erik Wilhelm’s career record of 61
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Watched replay of game.
*Mannion was scared, he needs to be a back up.
*Coaches need to look in mirror, 5 straight to ucks and been embarrassed in most.
*Wheaton, I don’t know what to say.
*Off. line did a good job, Mannions interceptions are not lines fault.
*Tackling was horrible, we didn’t wrap up.
*Banker must be replaced ASAP
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Mannion wasn’t scared. He wasn’t great, but he wasn’t bad. The first pick was obvious PI. They could have called unnecessary hugging on the Nikegon DB on that play if they wanted. The second pick was completely Colin Kelly’s fault. He did ok this year, but he really is a sieve. I’ll be happy to see him graduate. And apparently josh Andrews is also excited about this, because he can’t wait until after the snap to go over and say bye.
Five straight sucks.
Wtf Wheaton?
The second INT was completely Kelly’s fault. The third was completely Mannion’s fault, and nobody really cared about the fourth since it was just a “throw it up and hope something happens” type of play that point in the game was calling for.
Wait… tackling is allowed?
Idk about Banker. I will say I was calling each of the Ducks plays before each snap like I was psychic in the first half. You see so much more when at the game. It was so easy to see where the Ducks were going with the ball on each play. I wonder… is Banker in the box or on the ground? If I can get “you’re just creepy scary with these calls” statements from all the fans around me, I think Banker can probably do the same with a better perspective.
Langsdorf is useless. I see little cohesive play from all the units on offense. It was there at the beginning of the year when all those kids worked hard in the off-season to be on the same page to start fall camp. But it has been coached out of them. Maybe the defense is the same, but I’m willing to chalk that one up to them just wearing down after 10 weeks with no break.
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I’d suggested earlier in the season Banker move up into the press box with Cavanaugh and relay calls to Bray on the sidelines. Lets Banker see more, provides for increased responsibility for Bray.
Stanford played well again, will be interesting to see if they can repeat it three weeks in a row:
“Brett Hundley, UCLA’s redshirt freshman quarterback, was 20 of 38 for 261 yards and a TD with one interception while being sacked seven times, and Johnathan Franklin, the Bruins’ leading career rusher, was held to 65 yards on 21 carries. Stanford entered ranked second nationally in sacks and rushing defense.
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/gameflash/2012/11/24/49821/index.html#ixzz2DFnpzQiC“
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Oh… and Mariota is not much more than he was in high school. He has wheels, and he fits in the Ducks’ system. But he is not a good QB. The next time you hear a Duck fan talk about Darron Thomas leaving because Mariota is just so awesome, tell them Thomas must really suck. He didn’t make any throws I couldn’t make. In fact, he missed a lot I would have made.
That Josh Huff catch was the beginning of the end.
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As long as he’s effective in the system, what’s the criticism? They recruited him for their system, not USC’s or OSU’s. He’s put up fantastic numbers and is a freshman.
I respect the fact that Kelly can get early production out of people, it offers the program more opportunities for legitimate bowl games. Riley’s system, and recruiting, puts the program in position for good QB play every three-four years, but due to the uneven recruiting, there’s usually some other unit of the team that’s down when the QB play is finally up (e.g. Canfield is good, LBs are weak).
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He has major accuracy issues and a weak arm. He has great feet though.
Agreed with the unit consistency. They seem to concentrate on just two or so units per recruiting cycle, and it shows years down the road. Can we imagine what this year would have been if many sophs and frosh were not good enough to make the two deeps?
That’s a sign that recruiting is getting better. But they can’t let up now.
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Joe Avezzano says:
Major accuracy issues? Nope. Weak arm? You mean like on that long completed pass with the one-hand catch where he actually almost overthrew the receiver?
Sounds like sour grapes to Joe Avezzano.
As a famous person used to routinely say, “Scoreboard, baby!”
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Heh heh… yes… where he almost overthrew the receiver. A good D1 QB drops it in there. That was a great catch on a bad throw.
Even his quick hitches aren’t that great. He has a very slow release for that pass, and he was throwing behind a receiver who steps back for that pass… if he wasn’t trying to break the necks of worms at the receivers’ feet.
I suppose you could say that our DB’s were all-world yesterday, and that’s why he only threw for what seemed like two yards at a time. He makes plays with his feet, not his arm. Darron Thomas was a much better QB.
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“Much” better? Not just better, but much better?
You’re wrong. And I’ll bet Joe Avezzano’s opinion would be shared by most of the defensive players who have lined up against both qbs.
Let Joe put it this way…for every truly bad decision Mariota has made he probably has an equal number of sixty yard runs he’s peeled off. Oh yeah he’s not very good at all. Positively average.
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“for every truly bad decision Mariota has made he probably has an equal number of sixty yard runs he’s peeled off.”
I think Joe just made Jack’s point.
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Joe has made some weird arguments lately. And they seem to center on his man crush for everything Duck QB. It’s not surprising given the nature of Joe that this is reality. It is surprising that he is breaking form after i left him alone. He has been consistent up to a week or so ago.
Compare him to the lovebeaver character who claims he’s a female from the Philippines. That guy can’t decide between pretend broken English, nearly perfect English, Duck troll English and gobbledegook. And he can’t hold character for three posts over a half hour.
Joe made a good run at it.
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Your attempt to passive-aggressively besmirch Joe Avezzano’s good name is pathetic. Joe feels sorry for you.
Regarding “man crush”, Joe is merely trying to inject some reality to balance the curious “Mariota is barely adequate” style comments we’ve seen from you. For someone who claims to know a little something about football, dismissing the skills of someone who will most likely be voted the best qb in the Pac-12 means it is not Joe Avezzano who is guilty of misplaced bias.
Joe thinks there should be coined a phrase similar to “Godwin’s Law” that explains the tendency of some folks who, when their position is exposed as being riddled with large holes, resort to accusing those pointing out the folly of those views as being trolls.
Joe expected better. Very undignified.
As it pertains to “left him alone”, please don’t hold back with your poison pen. Joe can handle it.
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Who said he’s barely adequate? He’s simply not a good QB in the “old, non-NCAA” sense. He’s a great fit at Nikegon. And he’s probably a better fit there than Thomas was by his senior year. But he doesn’t have the same passing skills Thomas had, and as QB’s get older in that system they tend to choose pass more than they do run. I would too if I wasn’t a RB. It’s a natural progression.
I hope he stays and starts the remainder of his career there. What scares me more than anything is the kid who’s redshirting this year, Jake Rodrigues. That kid can really spin the ball. Unfortunately, the Ducks’ current system is lucky to survive a whole year without an injury to the QB, so we may see Rodrigues before his senior year. That will suck. The only thing that gives me hope is that Mariota does make plays with his feet. So he can maybe avoid that one hit that could end a season.
And Joe couldn’t help it. Joe had to drop the Hitler bomb. Joe can’t keep that false analogy from ruling his argument. Perhaps Joe should stop being overly defensive and just read the words.
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Oh… and Joe is guilty of two fallacies by dropping the Hitler bomb. The false analogy sets up a straw man.
Nice work Joe… who happens to think his straw man is an undignified argument.
Joe is not wrong.
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I think Riley would take a QB with 30 TD passes and six interceptions for a season. Mannion is going to throw six picks in a game sometime next year.
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I look at OSU’s roster and wonder if they really shouldn’t flip the pass:run emphasis to run:pass. They have no clear winner at QB, a young but promising offensive line, and what should be a productive stable of Woods/Ward and Brown.
But this line doesn’t really run block as well as it needs to. It’s like they get let off the hook because they can’t run block consistently well, OSU leans on the pass, and the run blocking never really develops as well as it might.
Hopefully the off-season provides for a wide-open QB competition and an emphasis on run blocking. And tackling.
What kind of crowd do you guys think shows up next week? 25-30K? Hope Harrington gets some significant playing time.
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Three juniors, a senior, and a freshman is not a young line.
No excuse for the poor run blocking. When is Cav held accountable?
Next year will be the boom cycle for our O-line with four returning starters, three being seniors.
Then a probable down, bust year because of the uneven recruiting. Will be young then.
Better make hay next year.
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A long-term thought, is Riley the equivalent of Rich Brooks-Rose Bowl appearance? Good guy, improved program competitively, took it as far as he could, 3 almost-rose-bowl seasons? The difference is the lack of a coordinator who is an upgrade over Riley. The UO model is not just power ranger uniforms and nike money, its Kelly>Bellotti>Brooks, the identification of limitations and appropriate timing to make a change.
Soon we’ll be able to read about the long walk Riley took with his wife and dog today, and how, in today’s what-have-you-done-for-me-lately-world OSU is lucky to have Riley, then next year we’ll be back to a mediocre start to the season and another lame bowl game. Which of course brings us to the main impetus for this site; progressive change in pursuit of higher goals.
It’s that time of year to again recognize Riley’s limitations and build upon the improvements he’s made rather than use the 28-year losing streak as the bar.
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Looking at his bio, it looks like Leipold’s willing to move around some. Use some of that pac-12 money and get the guy out here. Time for Riley/Langsdorf coaching/friendship relationship to become one of just friendship.
http://uwwsports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=845&path=football
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Leipold’s a pipe dream.
We’re stuck with two yard drag routes on 3rd and 5 for the next nine years plus.
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Yes… in the first two years of Riley’s second tenure. The same route by the TE is quicker, deeper and just as sure. I have no idea why that drag route is ever called except for me to complain about it.
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ncaa_violation says:
Hope this kid comes to osu to help address the DT depth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zl8KgKGQSU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Anybody else see danthony Thomas kick one of our guys after Poyer slammed him? What kind of little bitch kicks a guy? Especiallykicking somebody on the ground. And today he tweets out “we run this state”. Hope somebody calls him out cause a kick is worse than a punch and a punch can get you suspended
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Video of the incident and player reaction. Was more of a half assed stomp than a kick.
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That was a confusing penalty. The Ducks behind me were screaming for Poyer’s head until I pointed to the big board replay and looked back at them and yelled, “THE BITCH KICKED SOMEONE ON THE GROUND!”
All I got was a weak “scoreboard.”
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BeaverBill says:
Been reading everything here and I gotta say both sides are right. Definitely a better year… marked improvement… even beyond many of our expectations. BUT. Definitely we are limited because of our staff’s lukewarm recruiting and our poor poor coordinators.
I think we will have a good team next year. Not sure what the answer is about the QB situation. But, next year can be a break out of the box year if we replace some coordinators… starting with Langsdork. I like Riley a lot. But he is the reason they can’t break out of the box in that he will not replace his coordinator friends.
Oregon and Standford losses I can almost stomach because they were against good teams. Although both were winnable and that part hurts. Washington loss is the thorn in my side… no excuse for that one and i really suspect Langdork was a major reason for it.
I agree with ObjCritic that we really need to open up our run game next year with the O-line we have and the running back stable we have. A good O-coordinator could make some adjustments and man with the players we got for next year we can put some hurt on people.
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Sorry to pop everyone’s positive thinking and wishful thinking but Riley is once again in the drivers seat with a possible 10 game winning season and it is my belief he will not change anything, nothing, nada. With BDC’s protective backing he will do the same as this year.
I agree totally with your positive “should do’s” especially with Trent Bray, but it won’t happen. I believe we will have a better team next season but with the same old Barney Fife leadership and his loyal staff of assistants. Rileys’ total happiness is a winning season and a possible toilet bowl. With this he will be there forever.
It’s not that I want Beaver football program to get into BCS bowl every year or beat ucks every year, but 12+ years of no BCS and future of no Civil War wins is quite depressing in itself. There are so many Beaver fans who just live with what we get don’t care if Beavers are a top competitive team, especially against the ucks. Beaver Nation is a divided nation for sure.
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Beaver Byte says:
How good could our return game have been this year and in the Civil War if we got Reggie Dunn like we were supposed to? He had back-to-back 100 yard kickoff returns against the Buffs. Sure would have been fun to see that 2 or more times at Reser this year or making a big difference in games such as @Washington and @Stanford. I have to think that could have been enough to have OSU in the Rose Bowl this year.
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OT stuff:
Watching some of the current and Pac-12 coaches make me wonder: Can Pete Carrol succeed in the NFL when he can’t necessarily stock a roster with more talent than the opposition (i.e like he did at USC)? It seems the draft and free agency level the playing field for him, and his results trends towards mediocrity. Granted, there’s quite a bit of youth at Seattle, but I really don’t see him doing much more than he did at NE.
Is Harbaugh on the other hand, the best coach out of the Pac in recent years? He has been effective at Stanford and SF. The turnaround at each job was impressive. Imagine what he could have done at OSU.
Jazquizz Rodgers with a good game in the win today, 10 carries 49 yards (long of 20), 2 catches 30 yards (long of 32).
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Dave Kragthrope says:
my thoughts:
Langsdorf is a boob. The ducks kept cheating up a safety on first and second down as we predictably tried to run between the tackles forcing long third downs. Why did Riley turn the play calling back to him?
How the hell do the ducks get by with holding as much as they do? It is an institution at Oregon and part of their blocking “technique”. I figure Kelly just bets they will only get so many flags in any given game and no ref wants to be the guy throwing flag after flag. Kelly is a smart dude though if he weren’t in football he would be running a Ponzi scheme.
Special teams. Catch the football- that looked like the 1980′s special team. Poyer is a great DB, but we have got to move him off of punt returns- this has just happened one too many times with him.
I hate ducks and their fans.
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WFO says:
Poyer?
Poyer wasn’t responsible for any of the special ed teams gaffes that I saw during this game or any other this year.
Ward looked awesome in the return game. Wheaton not so much.
Ward has quickly become my favorite back/return man. Jovan Stevenson should have had more return tries this year also.
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Wheaton and Kell are the two that fumbled on the KO and punt returns, not Poyer. Wheaton must have had crisco on his hands yesterday.
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Poyer was the muffed punt in the third quarter after a nice defensive stop. The defense proceeded to make another nice stop immediately, but time of possession had to be horrible for us in the second half.
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Check that. Just saw the replay, and it was Wheaton as WFO kinda says and Gdub definitively says.
This is my first run through the replay. Sorry I got that wrong.
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You put this stuff out there. It’s like a drunk person apologizing the next day.
Why think what you think if you’re going to conditionally apologize here and there?
It seems like more work than it’s worth. I’m lazy by nature. Why do I have to manufacture some blame game for everyone else not paying me millions of dollars to just sit at home and do nothing? I wasn’t born the son of a defense contractor. I got over that reality early in life.
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only apologized because you saw your error and posted at the same time I posted my natural smart ass reply. No worries. All good.
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*buzzer*. I’m sorry but that is not the correct answer. Dink, tell Jack what he’s won! Absofuckinglutely NOTHING!!!!! Watched it with my own 2 eyes. It WAS Wheaton. ESPN play by play agrees with me.
4th and 14 at ORE 8 Jackson Rice punt for 41 yards, returned by Markus Wheaton for 1 yard, fumbled, recovered by Oregn Keanon Lowe at the Oregn 48.
Still don’t believe me?
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=323290204&period=3
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Thanks dink… er… Gdub. You lose by seconds.
Should I rub it in by making a game show production out of it?
Or should I just let it go like an adult might do?
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Why don’t you tell us about your thoughts about white women having sex with black men… again.
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you really don’t want me to do that. Some may find it humorous. The PC run amok bastages won’t. And before I get labeled as a racist, let the record show I love a good white trash joke just as much
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I also give my gf shit about wishing I was black. She has some “black blood” in her family tree.
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This was the year. Few injuries, lots of new coaches on opposing teams, and a moderate schedule. Excellent receivers, a good 1-2 punch at running back, excellent corners and a very much improved defensive front. Just do not make unforced errors and it’s an 11 win season. I only saw one game live and was shocked at the constant multiple player substitution scheme on every play, offense and defense. It reminded me of elementary school sports where you are required to play everyone equally. Yes, you do need to build depth. However, the constant running in and out disrupts rhythm, slows the pace to the point of predictability and gives your own the offense and defense little time to read their keys. The coaches are so busy shuffling guys in and out that they often forget that there is a team on the other side of the ball. They seem more interested in the choreography rather than the play. Keep moving them in and out until sumpin works. This is the curse of a rigid mindset that cannot figure out how to deploy its best weapons in the right place on the same field at the same time. This is the curse of mediocre coaching.
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Best Bowl for OSU: Holiday or Alamo?
http://beaverbyte.com
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Holy crap!
I just saw a replay of the Huff catch that was pretty much the back-breaker in this game.
It wasn’t a catch. The damn ball skidded across the turf in front of him before he scooped it up in all his glory.
I thought they reviewed such stuff.
While I’m at it, Lyerla can’t block. In fact, he holds one every single play in which he does try to block. You know he story. You can call holding on every play if you want to do so. But only the obvious fouls get called.
His holds were worse than obvious. He’d have a fistful of the back of someone’s jersey held up in their ear… or when he had Reynolds in a three second jam going nowhere while the ball carrier ran off Reynold’s backside from ten yards out. I’m not saying the Beavs are any more deserving than any other team and should get these calls. The Ducks have been getting away with them for years.
But why are they not called?
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PilingOn says:
I do not understand why the starters (Mannion, Wheaton, and Cooks) were playing late in this game. I was holding my breath on every play. I did not listen (or read) all post game comments from Riley on this. How did he justify leaving Cooks out there to be injured in the fourth quarter when we were down 31 points?
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Do people honestly think that a ten win team and a likely top 20 post season ranking is going to be firing coaches?
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I think top 15 at year’s end would be excellent. And I don’t care about expectations or how we did last year. I just think a top 15 finish is an excellent year. It’s better if we go to a BCS game, but the perception of two other Pac teams already in BCS bowls and us in the top 15 is just as strong. So I would say the team had a very successful year if we reach 10 wins.
That being said, special teams has been poor for a while now. Great athletes have made great plays, but the mistakes have outweighed the great plays by a bunch. Couple that with Read being paid on the high end for an assistant at OSU and his relative worth (none) as a recruiter. This is a guy who let the best punter in the country leave for another team who wanted him and failed to coach up the talent he had in place, that which he chose to go with instead.
And what do we do with Langsdorf? It seems that this year more than any the offense regressed as the season wore on. It looked like the players had themselves ready to play, and they’ve been coached (and play-called) out of sync. If Langs isn’t making the head-scratching calls we see, then he at least has to shoulder some burden for quality control. I understand his value as a recruiter is higher than many on the team, but people like Brasfield and Brennan show us that may be overstated and easily replaced.
Banker’s going nowhere. I won’t even waste time on him and his situation… unless BC comes calling? Never mind.
Will we keep the two weak links? Will they use the excuse you stated, our successful season, as the fallacy for a flawed conclusion to keep the status quo? Knowing this team, I would say yes. I’m about 99% certain Langs stays unless someone somewhere wants him as a head coach. But I wouldn’t count out the possibility that Bray stays, Read goes and Locey takes over ST.
If that were to happen, then OSU will have actually walked the talk of “evaluation” and “progress.” I think there’s little doubt Read should be evaluated out of his job.
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3GBeavs says:
Quote from Riley Sunday night:
“Riley also commented he would not ask the Conference to review a play where Poyer appeared to have been stomped on, saying his tape cut off the incident, and he hadn’t seen a replay of it.”
HOLY CRAP! I saw it at the game, saw it on the replay, and you can google search and find it.
C’mon Riley. A copy can be provided for you! If you don’t want to submit for a review then give a reasonable explanation.
Why can’t he stand up for his players? Just like Quizz during the Washington State game a couple years back. I sure miss players like Richard Seigler who would take care of their own.
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ObjCritic says:
“old man football” at Georgia:
Kinda funny. I didn’t realize Georgia had so much talent on defense (potential high draft picks).
While OSU obviously runs a pro set, again, I think with this roster (and next year) there needs to be greater emphasis on the run game. Hell, I’d like to see Woods/Ward both going over 100 this Saturday, with Harrington throwing about 20 passes.
Read Texas-Tech could end up being a bowl opponent – that’s not a very compelling match up. Hopefully Beavs get Texas or Oklahoma State (another spread team!).
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At least the OSU players want Nicholls State game. Hair-of-the-dog for another CW hangover. Maybe it will make them feel better about themselves and make bowl prep better.
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Poor Nicholls State, game re-scheduled so Riley could get an additional in the “win” column. Players and coaches of Nicholls State alike were hit by a major hurricane with their some of their families losing homes and all their possessions. I hope the money Nicholls St. gets for the game helps them out a bit.
Whatever bowl game we get I hope our opponent is not to tough. With Riley at the helm, his record for winning in pressure games is lacking. I doubt if he cares one way or another. His bonus comes just by getting the bowl game.
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He either does and is trolling or doesn’t and is a moron(and trolling), I am not sure which is worse. His spelling indicates the latter, but I digress.
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Hay Riley lover…….only a troll knows trolls, and you are the biggest troll of all. By the way, you missed a space between moron and your parenthesis. I can see your grammar is that of a 6 year old. Get a life.
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Let’s see, are you talking about all the toilet bowls he has gotten the team to. Well in that case we must hold the record for the Pac for toilet bowls. I really don’t give a rats ass what his record is with toilet bowls. OH, what is his record with Beavers going to BCS bowls……………ZERO! Assbite.
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Great bowl record, and the bowls are non-pressure bowls, so don’t worry about that. Going to a Holiday or even Alamo bowl is nice, but there isn’t much tangible on the line. May be a slight movement in the #16 ranking one way or the other, but that’s about it.
Probably the biggest pressure is putting on a good show and getting a win for recruiting purposes.
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If we’re playing Ok State in the bowl, gotta think a win would help sway Luke Del Rio our way
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Nice video on Luke and his dad with story of Peyton Manning’s influence on Luke. It sounds like he’s set on Ok State here, but knows the QB situation isn’t great there and he’d likely have stiff competition for the starting job.
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I think he’s sold on oSu. I’d be surprised if he switched at a late date. I think he feels he can take the job despite the depth, which makes him more appealing but less likely as a Beav prospect.
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JUCO DB Steven Nelson, the former Georgia verbal commit who has been rumored to be interested in OSU, just sent out this tweet:
Steven Nelson ?@Nelson_Island
#Beavernation
Wonder if that’s his way of saying he’s made up his mind?
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KC says:
Siale Hautau of Snow College (Paea’s JUCO) commits to the Beavs.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/oregonstate/football/recruiting/player-Siale-Hautau-139592
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DuckMan says:
Wow! This site is amazing. I just spent and hour on here and it is fucking hilarious to watch you guys try to spin and rationalize how badly you just got worked by a far superior opponent. The Ducks just in a whole different class than OSU. Better luck next year. But given that Banker will be back and the game is at Autzen lets just call it 6 straight! Highlight of the night, watching the sea of Orange hit the exits in the middle of the 4th quarter. I am so glad to have found this site, fucking hilarious. The conference titles are nice, BCS bowl games are a blast, but kicking the shit out of OSU again and again is priceless! The only bad part is that this beatdown was not televised nationally!
PS: Jack appears to have no life!
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beaverbeliver says:
Angry, Please get this troll out of here.
(He may be dead on regarding Jack, however)
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Dood’s welcome.
I do want something more than smack though. I wonder what UOduck thinks of this past game. i haven’t looked at the stats, but I’m almost positive Nikegon held time of possession in the second half by a large margin. Their once “elite” defense can put up some good numbers with a situation like that.
Hell, our D could. I felt sorry for our D when the wheels came off.
And I’m still a little pissed about Huff’s catch being called a catch. I didn’t have any angle to say anything other than what I saw… a great catch. But that replay really pisses me off. How could they miss something which was so obvious? That was the play that broke our back.
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Heh…
Thanks. But I’m only as right as a human can be right… if that. I’m going to stick my head in any dark hole an argument provides just for the sake of making that argument whole. My goal is to see what dedication and knowledge everyone has. Some of you guys out there bring opinion as opinion and reality as reality. There is no argument against either. But there are some who resort to silliness when challenged, and I can out-silly anyone.
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Just go with it. Don’t get him riled or he’ll start blathering nonsense about straw men and some other Completion Backward Principle-oriented alternate universe crapola.
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Got it on vinyl somewhere. I like their earlier albums more.
I did pull out America’s Choice a while ago and played it with the headphones on.
Sweetness!
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But seriously… the oxymoron “duckman” must have you conflicted. perhaps you can consult your sociology degree for conflict resolution.
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Angry, you’ll need to set up a site for this team:
What will the “Angry Buckeye” logo look like on their helmets?
FatDog 
progressivebeav 
dickassman 
dickassman 
Tim 
Gman 
CVO Beav 
idiots 
StarcraftSquall 
RMD 
numbers 
locusimperium 
Will Overhead 
Krogercomplete 
Quatre 
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