22.Jan.2013 A Message from Will Darkins

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Former LB turned FB at OSU. Spelling errors highlighted for irony:

You're a fucking idiot. Danny Langsdorff is one of the best cordinators in the Pac 12. He was the inovator of the fly sweep for Oregon State and approaches the game with a pro style system. He uses the tools he has in the most efficent manner.

One of the best? Really?

Innovator of the fly sweep? Really? Pretty sure that was lifted from a local high school (?) team.

Kind of frightening that this guy has a college degree. Could be the poster child for the commoditization of education if his comedic career takes the same path as football.

 

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  • ObjCritic says:
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    Yeah, I thought they borrowed the fly sweep from BSU actually, who’d run it effectively against OSU. They definitely didn’t innovate it.

    His remarks don’t address Riley taking play calling away from Langsdorf.

    Nice to see the loyalty anyway.

    • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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      Pretty sure Mark Speckman, formerly of Willamette University, is the guy who designed the fly sweep and gave it to Riley. It was during the offseason of 2006-07.
      The play was first run after the Beavs brought in James Rodgers, who was found by none other than Danny Langsdorf.

      Actually, it’s even mentioned in this Oregonian article. I guess you could say Langsdorf was at least involved in bringing the fly sweep to OSU, but he by no means invented it.
      http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindbeaversbeat/2010/08/oregon_state_day_4_curse_of_th.html

      How do you know for sure this is Will Darkens?

      • angry angry says:
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        99% sure it’s him. Email confirms it, and he’s posted on the site before with specifics/inside info.

    • hhh says:
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      Fly sweep came from Willamette. Langsdorf no doubt was an innovator though. You don’t take plays from division 3 and stick them in the PAc 12 with being an innovator. I would just argue its a lot easier with the greatest brother tandem in OSU history.

  • Quatre Quatre says:
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    Fly sweep came from Willamette University.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      Wasn’t BSU running it before OSU, and didn’t they use it against OSU before OSU incorporated it?

  • bone says:
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    Rarely will you find player talking bad about one of their coaches, also pretty rare that a player would be on a blog like this.

    I’m pretty sure that the fly sweep came from Willamette University in Salem.

  • BeavItOrNot says:
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    I guess it’s safe to assume he was not one of the 17 people who’ve signed your petition.

    I do believe Mr. Darkins is wrong that Langsdorf was the innovator of the fly sweep (if memory serves, it was a small school coach here in Oregon). I also believe Mr. Darkins is wrong about Langsdorf being one of the best coordinators in the Pac-12. By a wide margin.

    However, this does underscore the fact that players and folks in the program have a much better idea (generally) of the value of the coaching staff and individual coaches than do fans. I don’t think Langsdorf is very good, but if all former beavers stood up and told me I was wrong and that he was a great coach, my opinion would necessarily shift – they have a lot more information to base that opinion on than I do. It’s why I don’t want Riley or President Ray relying on online petitions (which I don’t think I have to worry about thankfully).

    Kinda like how Trent Bray has been elevated to, and will forever be known on angrybeavs.com as, Trent Bray the Magnificent, or the Magical Trent Bray. I am sure Bray is a good coach (by virtue of Riley taking a significant step to keep him on as a coach this year), but if you’d just landed here on earth and the only site you read was angrybeavs.com, you’d think this GA that worked with the linebackers was solely responsible for the Beavers’ relatively strong defense this year (and that it had nothing to do with returning depth, the divisive Rod Perry, the typically strong Mark Banker, etc.). You’d also think Jack is nuts (and of course you’d be right).

    • angry angry says:
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      You’d also know a lot about can openers.

      • Jack says:
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        Can openers are cool… except for some can openers.

        So I guess only some can openers are cool.

        Question: When you subtract “some” from “all” does that leave you with “some?”

      • hhh says:
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        if you accept when uncle’s of players bitch and moan about riley, why can’t you also accept when former players take the time to support riley/program?

        Just curious.

        • BeavItOrNot says:
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          My guess is that if Mr. Darkins had agreed with Angry’s analysis of Langsdorf, and sent an email (spelling errors and all) saying so, it would’ve been a smoking gun confirming for Angry everything he had posted. But, Mr. Darkins disagreed with Angry, rendering him an idiot, obviously. Same qualifications –> different opinion –> entirely different treatment. Not saying we aren’t all guilty of the same thing from time to time, but Mr. Darkins’ remarks are owed some credence based on his experience.

          By the way, plenty of people can’t spell well – they are often engineers, so don’t be too quick to judge (although it appears Mr. Darkins studied philosophy so anything goes).

          • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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            If mr Darkins remarks had any substance to them…..which they do not.

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      Beavit … you really need to give it up. You are pretty much talking nonsense.

      It is not a FACT that players have a much better idea of the value of coaches. Some might, but in any case their view is limited to the coaching staff they have. Some fans, with longtime experience in viewing coaching success or failure may actually have a better ability to evaluate coaching value.

      Some on here have given kudos to Trent Bray…..why are you offended by that? If you think otherwise, give hat opinion. That is what this blog is for.

      And leave off the personal remarks……As soon as someone resorts to that, one knows they either have nothing to say, or dont have the ability to say it.

      • BeavItOrNot says:
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        Are you going to lecture Angry and everyone else to leave off the personal remarks too, or this lecture just for me? By the way, I don’t think I leveled any personal remarks in my post above.

        I think what you are saying is nonsense and misrepresents what I said above (i.e. the Trent Bray thing illustrates how carried away folks can get sometimes when evaluating coaching successes from the outside – it sounds like Bray is a good coach but it is unlikely he is responsible for everything the readers of this site have credited him for).

        You think what I am saying is nonsense. I can live with that, mainly because, as mentioned above, I think what you are saying is nonsense.

        • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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          Actually, your “Jack is nuts” comment is just a derogatory one. If I owned this blog, I would warn folks like you and then kick them off if they kept doing that. Hey, I understand emotion, and I have gone derogatory on here before.

          On the Trent Bray thing, maybe you should quote statements on here that support your claim that Bray is likened to a coaching god, on here. I have read most of this for some time, and never got that impression. This blog has numerous contributors and if some like him, that isnt the whole blog.

          I gather that you disagree with any notion that Bray is a good coach. Why not comment at the time that others praise Bray, and give your opinion on it. Again, I get the impression you are one of those types who think their opinion is correct. A blog is a bad place for you.

          As to nonsense, it is nonsense to say what you said…..that its a FACT thet players all know the qualities and abilities of their coaches relative to all other coaches, better than a fan can. That is just nonsense. Not true, on the face of it. You made something that might be true in some cases, an absolute, and so not true.

          • BeavItOrNot says:
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            First, read what I actually said about Bray (I specifically said I thought he was a good coach) and then re-gather your “thoughts.” Second, I said it was a fact that “generally” players know best – that word “generally” qualified it so it was specifically not an absolute. Read more carefully, Clown.

          • BeavItOrNot says:
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            Now, what is it you said before? Something about waiting for a rebuttal or else I will assume I’m on the mark…?

          • BeavItOrNot says:
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            And the “Jack is nuts” thing was a joke and I meant no harm – and Jack does seem a little nuts.

          • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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            You continue to call names. Clown… Angry should kick you off.

            So the jack is nuts was a joke, and then you say he does seem nuts. LOL Name calling, man.

            Here is what you said:
            “… the fact that players and folks in the program have a much better idea (generally) of the value of the coaching staff and individual coaches than do fans.”

            You are making this FACT up. It is your OPINION that players and those in the program will GENERALLY know more than fans but its not a fact. And if you want to emphasize the word generally, you devalue your argument. That this explayer knows the value of langs better than knowledgable fans. We are not talking about normal fans here, in angry vs Darkins. Angry is very knowledgable.

            But…. if english is your second or third language, you know, as an immigrant, then please say so and I will cut you more slack. I am really suspecting you dont have much grasp of the language and are saying things you dont mean.

          • BeavItOrNot says:
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            You’re embarrassing and what’s worse, too dumb to realize it.

          • BeavItOrNot says:
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            And I take it you’ve dropped that whole I “object to any notion Bray’s a good coach” stuff after you actually read what I wrote (who’s the ESL student here?)?

          • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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            Man, you are so high and mighty for a poster who does such a poor job of expressing himself.. Here is what you said about this Blog representation of Bray:

            “Kinda like how Trent Bray has been elevated to, and will forever be known on angrybeavs.com as, Trent Bray the Magnificent, or the Magical Trent Bray.”

            Now why dont you just provide a quote that supports that? I have never got that impression on this blog. There are lots of opinions here. I think you are blowing out your ass.

          • BeavItOrNot says:
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            Avoiding my question… It’s cool, it was rhetorical.

          • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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            Hey, so you are a troll.. But not a very good one. You need better language skills.

          • Hellobeavers says:
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            Steve, you are going nowhere with your arguments. I’m assuming there are no studies to prove that a guy who played for four or five years at the highest level of college football under some of the best coaches in the country, which includes hours upon hours of film study, knows more about the game of football than a big fan who likely did not participate in the sport after high school. There are no studies because it’s a fucking ridiculous hypothesis.

            Darkins said Langsdorf was the innovator of the fly sweep at Oregon State. Innovator wasn’t the best choice of words but that was a highly effective play for two years and Darkins is telling us that Langsdorf played a big role in adapting that to Oregon St. Sure, he had James Rodgers to execute it, but didn’t Langsdorf find and recruit James?

            Finally, stop telling people to dig thru old posts and comments to find quotes to support what our memory tells us. Angry does the same thing with Rod Perry in claiming he only wondered if he could recruit well because he’s older. I’ve read comments that Riley should be fired if Bray gets away (but what isn’t a fireable offense for Riley around here?). I’ve read comments that he should be considered for defensive coordinator and that he is the reason the defense did well this year. I actually pulled comments by Angry regarding Perry at one point to prove my point. Perry was questioned based on his age, and claims were made that he cant possibly be worth a damn since his secondary in the NFL wasnt excellent – this led to the conclusion that Riley must run a program based on “nepotism”.

            The petition thing is ridiculous because this “community” operates on the notion that they’re right and Riley is wrong and if you disagree then you’re complacent and happy to be mediocre. The truth is none of you (except Darkins) have any fucking clue what goes on behind the scenes. You’re just certain that someone else can do it better. The Beavers lose a game or two every year that they should have won – but isn’t this true of 99% of teams?

            Finally, I think the most absurd bullshit I have read on this website is the suggestion that Pat Casey could replace BDC and BDC should be fired because he isn’t concerning himself with very low level donors. BDC is essentially the CEO of a pretty good sized business. I don’t know about your companies, but I can’t exactly pick up the phone and call my CEO. If you want to donate $20, don’t be an asshole and waste BDCs time with that – you can call BASF and talk to whoever answers phones. Anyway, I highly doubt Pat Casey is qualified to take on the business reposibilities that an AD has.

            BeavItOrNot – I’ve really enjoyed reading your comments. You’re the most level headed commenter I have seen on angrybeavs.com.

          • Krogercomplete says:
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            Dude, I turn my head for one second and look want I miss! Who says this is the slow season. And where the hell is Jack?

          • Krogercomplete says:
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            Dude, I turn my head for one second and look what I miss! Who says this is the slow season. And where the hell is Jack?

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            Whoops.

          • angry angry says:
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            Langsdorf didn’t :find James Rodgers. A HS coach called Langsdort and told him about JR. The exact quote from o-live.

            Riley said offensive coordinator Danny Langsdorf got a tip from an old friend from Skyline HS in Oakland, Calif. “The guy had coached James in an all-star game,” said Riley, and he told Danny, ‘this guy is good! You guys ought to take a look at him.’ So we did.”

            So Langsdort showed up somewhere, and you want to give him credit for that? Same with the fly sweep.

            Also, after reading that email, I can’t assume Darkins knows more than a fan.

            And don’t waste Bob D’s time with a $20 donation? Give me a break, high roller. That attitude is why OSU couldn’t get anywhere near 12,000 by 2012.

          • locusimperium says:
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            I think that’s how recruiting works a lot of the time, angry.

          • Krogercomplete says:
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            I don’t think they are just blindly cruising random prep games hoping to strike gold. If anyone can actually take credit or “finding” someone, seems Langs could get credit here. Maybe I am wrong about how recruiting works.

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    Darkins can have an opinion, and it is most assuredly more well informed than my own due to him having been in the program. He is also a kid compared to many of us so consider that when listening to him.
    He would increase his effectiveness substantially by using spell check, something I thought is actually hard to avoid nowadays.
    I would argue that if Langsdorf was one of the best in the Pac, why don’t other schools come knocking?

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      Rather that him having an opinion, I would be more impressed if he could use spell check before sending an e-mail.

  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    I suggest that players may have some kind of vested interest in standing behind a coach, even one who is incompetent.

    Note that Darkins has really nothing to say, in his defense of Langsdorf… The fly sweep innovation is bull. Using a pro style offense is actually old fashioned. And using the tools he has, in the most efficient manner is suspect since mr Darkins is not widely experienced in the college football coaching world. And, he soesnt address concerns given here, like his terrible play calling.

    So, all in all, this Darkins doesnt actually defend Langsdorf except to use the Beavit ploy of making a derogatory personal comment. His little statement is actually damning, because he cant find any real plusses for Langs. Even someone defending him cant find anything good to say.

    But also note, that little petition got noticed. When you get a nonsense rise out of someon, you know you hit a nerve. One suspects Langs is being criticized by others as well as us..

    • BeavItOrNot says:
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      As I understand it, a “vested interest” typically suggests one has a personal interest or stands to gain from a certain outcome. I am struggling to see what Mr. Darkins stands to gain from defending his offensive coordinator from three years ago when he used to play football. Can you explain?

      And isn’t calling someone “incompetent” a derogatory personal comment? I guess you will say, “not if it’s true…” But what if it’s not? And what if we could prove it was true that Angry is in fact a “fucking idiot” as Mr. Darkins suggests? Would it no longer be a derogatory personal comment?

      Lastly, yes, Mr. Darkins’ defense of Langsdorf was not very well mounted. Maybe he didn’t have that much time (he clearly did not have time for spell check). I still would not discount his response out of hand like you are.

      • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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        Sure, Beavit….. Darkins might be looking to Langs for a recommendation on some coaching job, etc etc. The tone of his reply, being all nonsense, shows emotion not rationality.. He is angry that someone ragged on Langs, but has nothing to defend Langs with, so he just basically spouts off. That in itself indicates a personal tie of some kind.

        competence is an evaluation of job performance. Which is what we do here. And truth has nothing to do with it, as this is just a blog, and is a long series of users opinions.. I would think you would know that. Maybe you are new to the internet.

        Some terms are just derogatory….like idiot…..which on the face of it, Angry is not. An idiot wouldnt even be able to compose proper statements or generate a petition.. Dickhead…..assclown…..etc I like the term “moron” but I at least know its just a derogatory term, just spouting off. If I were to call you a moron, I would know that you really are not one….. Hmmm…..or would I….

        Darkins defense of Langs was NO defense. He said nothing of consequence that indicates Langs is a good coach. In someone coming to anothers defense, that is quite damning….

        The fact that he started with a personal comment, like you tend to, shows, without actually needing to read further, that he probably has nothing to say. And sure enough, he didnt. I discount his response on its face value.

        And again, note that the petition you dont like, generated that — a langs defender looking foolish, but not able to challenge the premise of the petition..

        I get the impression you are one of those people who cant stand the opinions of others unless they agree with you. A blog is not a good place for you.

        • BeavItOrNot says:
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          The irony of everything you just said (i.e. calling me out for calling names and then calling me names; suggesting I am not tolerant of opposite opinions all while exposing just how intolerant you are; suggesting I am a moron while saying moronic things) is just unreal. You my friend are a caricature.

          • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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            I didnt call you a moron. Cant you read?

            I am waiting for a rebuttal of anything I said. If you have none, then I guess I am on the mark.

          • BeavItOrNot says:
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            You clearly intimated you thought I was a moron. Which is fine, I think it’s rather well-settled who the moron is here. Sometimes when I read what you write it makes me wish I couldn’t read.

          • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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            My posts are clearly labelled so no need for you to read any of them.

            I think I intimated that you are a moron, not ‘was a moron’. But glad you are ok with it.

  • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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    angry, it seems like poor form to repost something from Darkins depending on where it originated. If it’s from the fire Langdorf thread, maybe I could see it if you kept it anonymous and referred to him as a ‘former player’ or something. No one uses their full name when they post in here, so it appears there’s and expectation of anonymity. It’s worse if you’re posting an email he sent to you directly.

    I think highlighting misspellings is kind of a cheap shot, too.

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      Someone sends a message they dont want publicized, they state as much. If they sign their full hame, then that is who gets credit for the statement. You write to the owner of a blog, ragging on him, and you think the message wont get posted?? LOL.

      Give Angry credit. Someone challenged his petition, and Angry put that challenge on this blog. That the challenge was poortly spelled and had no substance is not Angry’s fault.

      So far, looks like the petition is dead on.

      • BeavItOrNot says:
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        And also largely unsigned. Hmmmmmm. Don’t think too hard about what that might mean, RSteve503.

        • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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          Unsigned? Is there a number that needs to be reached? You say the strangest things.

          I cant think about it being unsigned because it is signed. Do you ever make any sense?

          • BeavItOrNot says:
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            I said “largely” unsigned – can’t YOU read?

          • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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            LOL … the petition cannot be unsigned if it has ANY signatures. It cannot be LARGELY unsigned unless it has some number of signatures that HAS to be reached. So you make, again, no sense.

            The petition is what it is. Why do you even care that Angry got it up? Dont sign it if you dont want to. Again, you seem really intolerant.

            I dont think such a petition will have much or any impact. Like this blog, stuff like that is just an expression of opinion. I again suggest that you are not going to be happy here, looking at opinions other than your own.

          • BeavItOrNot says:
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            Thanks for your suggestion. Now go away.

          • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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            You are welcome. Why should I go away?

            Oh, right, you hate opinions other than your own.

    • angry angry says:
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      He’s posted here before using his real name, so he set the precedent. If he used a pseudonym I wouldn’t post his name, obviously.

      • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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        My take on internet etiquette is that the intention of emails are for the recipient(s) only, and on forums, people should try to follow the intention of the sender. Another completely unrelated forum I visit has the option to send personal messages to others. It’s frowned upon when people repost those personal messages on the public board for everyone else to see.

  • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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    To add, someone critical of how the fire langs peition was written is being snobby, but you highlighting spelling errors is for irony? What would Alanis Morissette say?

    • angry angry says:
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      Yes, because I clearly wrote the petition in two seconds and didn’t call anyone an idiot in it. So someone showing up and saying “hey this is poorly written, I can’t sign it” sounds like something a hipster snob would say. I never claimed it was well written, and really who cares how it’s written? If you dislike Langsdorf, sign it, because that’s the gist. Explain how there is any irony there?

      Darkins called me an idiot and then misspelled a handful of words. That is clear irony.

      • BeavItOrNot says:
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        Seriously? Because you criticized someone for critiquing your, apparently admittedly, poor writing and then critiqued Darkins’ poorly written response to your poorly written petition.

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          Guy: read above.

        • mckalk says:
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          Thank you for causing my head to explode. What was the topic again?

        • angry angry says:
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          Darkins wrote partially to call me an idiot. When you call someone an idiot, you can’t misspell words (since it’s something idiots do).

          I wrote a petition calling out a bad coach, never calling him an idiot or any other name. Since it’s unrealistic to expect a fan to be a good coach, the analogy you’re trying to make doesn’t fit.

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            I’m pretty sure you don’t know what irony means. But even I can acknowledge this is a dumb argument – you did however ask for someone to explain it to you.

          • angry angry says:
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            Yeah, I don’t know what irony means. You’re right. And awesome. And really smart. How big’s your dick?

          • BeavItOrNot says:
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            Ah thanks. I bet you’re dying to find out.

          • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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            I think its as big as his head….

          • BeavItOrNot says:
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            Thanks?

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            I didn’t know what irony meant. So I asked your mom. She said and I quote, “mmmmrgggbbbllllllmmmmmmmmmgbllllllllr”

  • whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    An honest reply to Mr Darkins comments. If Langsdorf “uses his tools in the most efficient manner “, his words not mine, why hasn’t……………1. These alleged tools delivered a berth in the Rose Bowl? And 2. An opportunity to move up in the college football coaching world? Meaning a better gig as an OC at a higher profile school, or any type of head coaching opportunity. Even if it was at a lower division. I have yet to hear of any school coming after Langsdorf for a better opportunity.

    • mckalk says:
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      I’ve been waiting with baited breath for over an hour for Gopher to respond to the phrase “used his tools”.

      • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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        …..it was too obvious a set up…..

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        Sorry to disappoint. I didn’t stay at a Holiday In Express last night.

  • FedUpBeav says:
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    No OC who passes it in multiple games in the 4th quarter 90% of the time is anywhere near “one of the best”. You will find those percentages are among the worst of 120 FBS teams in terms of balance in big games in the 4th, and a direct correlation of such lopsided passing to rushing greatly increasing our odds of losing. I might be able to give Danny consideration as being mediocre but not with such silly numbers that are so foolish and so tied to defeat in games with considerable implications for OSU’s program.

    • whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      calling Langdorf mediocre is insulting to mediocrity.

  • angry angry says:
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    BeavItOrNot you’re really into calling people morons and talking about intelligence. Why don’t we all just take IQ tests and whip out our dongs while we’re at it.

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      It finally dawned on me, so maybe I am dumb……Beavit is just a troll, on here just to rag folks. He isnt an OSU fan in any way, shape or form….

      • Hellobeavers says:
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        What the fuck is a troll anyway? You keep using that word and I read it in comment sections of various news articles all the time. I guess I assumed it was someone who tries to change the subject to divert attention away from the topic. If that is what it means, i think you use that word when it doesn’t really apply quite frequently. Beavitornot seems to be on topic in my opinion.

    • whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      Excuse me while I whip this out

    • WFO WFO says:
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      Got me a rock and roll band it’s a free for all…

  • BeavItOrNot says:
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    Ok. Wait, is this a trick?

  • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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    Not quite as good as the great Jack v. PBH battle royale of 2011 but entertaining nonetheless.

    What’s up with people calling for bans all of a sudden? Bball have you down?

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      I was thinking the same thing, but not bad for a couple of rookies. I had a little fun with old sausage fingers Beaverfever a few months ago, but Angry stepped in a cut if off. JB

      OT…but a reminder. The run out of the CBI resumes tomorrow night. Set your DVRs.

  • mb says:
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    Children. I am really old and never use spell check and could care less about powdered wigs and silk hose. But you can’t make the excuse that a poorly written petition intended for the eyes of the Grand Lord of Beaverland, was written in”two seconds” and therefore gets a free pass. If you screw up, then man up. The comments evaluating Langsdorf based on the perceived number of offers to leave OS are pure preteen female envy/jealousy. The errors of Langsdorf against Texas were really bad. Let’s talk turkey and not Chick Lit. By the way, I played a Pop Warner game against the exWillamette Coach. He was born with no hands but was a hellava linebacker. The flysweep predates him. So if the flysweep is langsdorf’s claim to fame, then I bet he will make the Insect Hall of Fame. The play aint that big a deal outside the 503.

    • angry angry says:
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      The petitions weren’t well written, and they were written in twenty (not two) seconds. I already did “man up”. Not sure what else you want.

      If any of you wrote that I’d sign in it a heartbeat because Langsdorf blows. I can’t imagine basing whether I sign it or not on writing instead of overall message, but that’s me.

      • mb says:
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        You absolutely did. And you do back off if you get a little exagerated. Good character. The question though is, how do we get Senor Langsdorf to move on to bigger and better things?

  • mckalk says:
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    If that really was Darkins I would suggest additional concussion protocols might be in order otherwise I’ve lost complete faith in the Oregon higher education system. Or maybe he was just drunk when he wrote it. Anyway, using one’s tools in an efficient manner is certainly a worthy goal for all of us and I thank Mr.Darkins for those words to live by!

  • Jack says:
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    I’d like to see this thread in Azbuka. I’d be willing to bet it would look pretty cool.

  • angry angry says:
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    What was Sprague’s big news?

    • ncaa_violation ncaa_violation says:
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      Sprague has been asked multiple times by his twitter followers all night but he said he cant reveal it yet. Still dont know if its even Beaver related. seems like if there really was team news it would have leaked by now.

  • Jack says:
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    Just a missed note from Sunday…

    The #’s 1 and 3 ranked HS hoops teams in the San Diego area played each other on Sunday. #3 Army-Navy beat #1 Cathedral Catholic 67-61.

    Our boy N’diaye had 22 pts, 25 reb, 10 blk and 3 ast. I don’t know what got into him, but he shot 7/8 from the floor and 8/9 from the line.

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