17.May.2013 Oregon State @ Oregon (Baseball Civil War)

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Let the mayhem begin. Saturday and Sunday will be broadcast on TV. I have a crappy feeling the Ducks take 2 of 3 as I don't see the Beavs scoring many runs versus them…it will come down to OSU pitching outdueling those guys.

05/17/13 at Oregon * Eugene, Ore. 6:00 p.m. PT
05/18/13 at Oregon * Eugene, Ore. 2:00 p.m. PT
05/19/13 at Oregon * Eugene, Ore. 12:00 p.m. PT
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  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    I don't think there's a player I dislike more in college baseball right now than Jimmy Sherfy.  I hope they make that little bitch cry.

    • mckalk says:
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      I wouldn't mind seeing a stray slider hit him in the kneecap producing no long term damage, but immediate pain.  I hate the Ducks with every fiber of my being.  If the Ducks had a chess team, I would hate them just because it feels right.

    • HopefulBeav says:
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      I'm always down to hate a Duck. Any reason in particular for this guy though? I don't follow the Ducks personnel very much.

  • homefry homefry says:
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    here's a great preview….Go Beavs!

     

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/weekend-preview-civil-war-means-even-more-with-both-oregon-clubs-in-top-10/

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    Anybody have a guess of our chances of hosting a super regional?

    REALLY wanting a sweep this weekend. Just drive through patchouli-ville on my way to Florence and I’ve already had enough of duck fan.

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      I read an ESPN story yesterday that had the Beavs as the #4 projected national seed.  So hosting a super regional should be given if they can win this series and sweep WSU next week.

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      Despite the NCAA notoriously slighting us in the past. I think both teams get national seeds with a lose and a series win next weekend. I think the loser of a sweep this weekend and a lost series next weekend might not get a national seed.

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      Any streams other than the “non-compatiable” pac12 stream?

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    horrible start, looked out at the plate?

  • angry angry says:
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    Beavs down 1-0 already

  • angry angry says:
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    2-0 Ducks.

  • JD says:
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    I'm already tired of this bull shit, they have hit one ball well all inning and they have already scored 2 runs.

    • angry angry says:
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      They're fiesty and tough.

      Tommy Thorpe is going to need Tommy John surgery at some point–dude has a horrible delivery.

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Could this be one of those days?

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Bad at bat by Hayes.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    John Hunt ‏@JHuntweet1m

    Uh oh … RT @A_Jude: Per @rgsports' Bob Clark, Ducks are 15-0 when scoring in the first inning and 26-1 when scoring first.

  • angry angry says:
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    I feel like I could hit Thorpe. Really want a crack at this guy.

    Source: Batted .460 with 3hrs my senior year.

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    WTF is up with Boyd?

  • JD says:
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    Dink hit and it's 3-0. This is not the start I expected from Boyd.

  • angry angry says:
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    3-0 Ducks.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    WOW, somebody go knock on the Bus door and get the Beavs to come out.

  • JD says:
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    Nice play by Jake, maybe that can get them fired up.

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    JRod cuts down the runner at second, we're likely to see that a few more times in this series!  Boyd gets a K to end the 2nd with the ucks up 3-0.

  • JD says:
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    Wow Keyes is slow, he should beat that out.

  • angry angry says:
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    Is GoBeavs at this game? It's nice not reading his Captian Obvious posts.

    • mckalk says:
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      Ouch!

      • angry angry says:
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        Well, I hope he keeps doing it for those who aren't watching the game, but it's pretty brutal! Truth hurts.

    • JD says:
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      If he's not there, then I would be worried about him.

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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      Obviously.

      • mckalk says:
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        I could take over for him!  Conforto strikes out during a crucial at bat.  Ducks ahead 3-0.  Boyd needs to shut down the Ducks this inning.

        • angry angry says:
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          That's pretty good, especially the last line.

          Here's mine: "Beav's bats need to get going to have a shot in this one"

          • mckalk says:
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            That's good also….or the Beavs need to score some runs to get back in the game.

      • angry angry says:
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        BG, you subscribe to this line of thought?

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu5g86nhWK4

    • HopefulBeav says:
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      I like his updates. I very rarely have the time to sit and watch a whole game.

  • mckalk says:
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    Shitty at bat, shitty Duck announcers.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    the announcers between innings, "I drove here faster than that pitch!"

     

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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      They car pool with Cliff Harris.

  • Afghanbeav Afghanbeav says:
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    I'm going to suck start my shotgun, if these annoucers keep this up.

  • JD says:
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    Ugh, Conforto goes down looking in a place where the Beavs really needed a hit.

  • mckalk says:
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    Are they getting texts from pissed off Beaver listeners? The announcers got contrite there for a minute.

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Go to the pen. Boyd does not have it.

  • angry angry says:
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    I genuinely feel the Ducks are the better team. I know the stats and rankings don't bear it out, but they're more mentally tough, fiesty, and clutch. Those things don't show up in stats.

    • mckalk says:
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      I haven't followed them that closely other than reading stories in the paper, but they seem to win a lot of close games and more times than not come up with a game changing or deciding play.

      • angry angry says:
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        more times than not come up with a game changing or deciding play.

        That sums it up well.

        Even tonight, getting an early run and setting the tone for the series was key, and they did that.

        I am writing like the game is over…it's not, but Duck's have a pretty good staff I don't see the Beavs scoring much at all this series since their offense is station-to-station and small ball. I think power offense would do better vs the ducks.

        • JD says:
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          I'm not sure that I disagree with you but it is a little early to make a statement that the Ducks are better.  Let's see how the series plays out first.

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      That maybe very true, and it may not be their night tonight, but the Beavs will keep fighting.  I would be very surprised to see them give up.

  • JD says:
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    Boyd has gotten ahead of many hitters but hasn't been able to put them away. Need a strikeout here.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    kerry eggers ‏@kerryeggers1m

    @Beaver_Baseball @OregonBaseball Payne leads off 3rd with double. #Ducks have leadoff hit in each of first three innings

  • mckalk says:
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    If it' gets to 6-0, I would just have Boyd starting hitting random Ducks.

  • angry angry says:
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    Had my first cocktail in months, sorry GoBeavs not sure I mean to pick on you, though I'd probably do it sober, too.

    Hopefull–I know some people appreciate the updates, which is why I added disclaimer.

    • mckalk says:
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      Dammit Angry, now I'm going to delete my snarky posts.

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Angry, my theory is that Beaver teams now expect to lose to the quacks.

    • angry angry says:
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      I think it's accurate. Isn't that the little brother syndrome?

      It has something to do with wealth, too…rich guy vs guy from the other side of the tracks. Beavs have inferiority complex.

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        The other side of the tracks should make them want to beat their asses more.

         

        Shit, I WAS that kid, there was no way in hell I ever gave in, gave up or was willing to lose to the kids who thought they were better…NEVER.

         

        Fuck the ducks.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Kendall Rogers ‏@KendallRogersPG

    Huge comeback. RT @DiamondHeels: ACC REGULAR SEASON CHAMPS! FINAL: Carolina claims the Coastal Division crown with an 8-5 win over Virginia

     

    omen to comebacks???

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Is that ballpark as nice as it looks?

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    John Hunt ‏@JHuntweet

    PK Park. Where PK does not stand for Phil Knight, or Pat Kilkenny, but Poor Karaoke.

  • angry angry says:
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    Speaking of friendly home score keepers…

    And Peterson has a rag arm!

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    my feed stopped.

    • oneoldbeav says:
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      That's a shame.  You must have missed Gordon's circus catch for the second out, amazing!

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    caught them replaying it.  Good recovery, poor jump.  He has made a bunch of those, reminds me of lynn dykstra

    • oneoldbeav says:
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      You're right, but do sound a little like the Oregon announcers explaining why Boyd's throw to second to get the lead runner was on the wrong side of the bag.

      Gordon, he's a fighter.

  • JD says:
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    Beavs offense didn't show up tonight. Too bad

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Beavs have not hit the ball good all night, can't square it up against their pitcher.  He throws it in the zone but kept them off balance just enough to not get any good contact.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Here come their little bitch Sherfy. Fuck him up boys

  • JD says:
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    Time for Hayes to be a hero.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Bases loaded. Sherfy lives up to his bitch nickname, beans Barnes in the head.

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    Just noticed gametracker has the Oklahoma State insignia where our OSU should be, hate those smug ducks!

  • HopefulBeav says:
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    Ill do the honors for GB90:

    We need a hit right here REALLY bad!

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    I would have tied it up with a field goal and won in overtime.  JB

    • mckalk says:
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      In reality, you would have had Don Shanklin run the QB option three times and punted on 4th and 14 from your own 23 yard line.

  • Issaquahbeav says:
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    This game was like being dealt a 6 on your first hand of blackjack.  I'm hoping today's game is like being dealt a 5 with tomorrow's game being the face card.

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Any stream for this game?

     

  • Eric_Beaver says:
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    End of 2, tied 0 – 0. I'm streaming the radio station. 

    http://www.radio84.com/

     

  • angry angry says:
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    Any online video?

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Scoreless after 3 1/2 innings. Beavers hitters not named Andy Peterson continue to do nothing.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Healy with a 1 out double in the bottom of the 4th

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Scoreless after 4 innings

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Hayes singles and Barnes sacrifices him to second. Keyes up. Big at-bat here.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Day pinch-hits for Gordon and cannot deliver. Big missed opportunity.

  • AfghanBeav AfghanBeav says:
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    Anyone else see the duck sitting behind the plate, intentionally trying to distract our pitcher?  What a tool.

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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      Hard to see that on a radio feed LOL.

      • AfghanBeav AfghanBeav says:
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        (S)he is "flashing" his/her boobs, waving their arms, generally acting like an idiot.

    • Timber! says:
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      A lot of uck fans don't know much about baseball.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Scoreless through 5 innings. Moore has retired 15 of last 16 batters and has a one hit shutout on just 50 pitches in 5 innings.

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Yard!

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    1-0 Beavers after 5 1/2 innings on Conforto's solo homer.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    1-0 Beavers after 6 innings

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    "We want Moore, we want Moore!"

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Ryan Barnes solo homer with 1 down in the 7th. 2-0 Beavers

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Keyes with a 1 out single. Another insurance run here for Moore would be big.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    I've been expecting OSU to lose this series – didn't UO win a single, non-league game against OSU earlier this season?

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    How is it that Moore was not signed by the quacks?  

    • Timber! says:
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      was a very close call, has relatives in UO athletics history. "Fell in love with OSU coaches, program."

      • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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        Works for me. The "buy a baseball program" really pisses me off more than anything about the quacks.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    2-0 Beavers after 7 innings. Moore with a 2 hit shutout through 7

  • Timber! says:
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    Petey a double on fielders choice bloop single 😉

  • Timber! says:
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    3–0

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Andy Peterson RBI single makes it 3-0. Two on and two out for Danny Hayes, Christian Jones coming in for Oregon.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Two run single by Hayes. 5-0 Beavers.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    RBI triple by Ryan Barnes. 6-0 Beavers

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Wild pitch scores Barnes. 7-0 Beavers

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    7-0 Beavers after 7 1/2 innings

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Tell Casey to keep running the ball and not go back to the passing game. 

  • Timber! says:
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    Moore is smooth.

    • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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      That's so funny, I was just going to post the same thing. Kid is so relaxed looking.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    7-0 Beavers after 8 innings. Moore 3 outs away from a 2 hit shutout.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    RBI single by Andy Peterson makes it 8-0 Beavers in the 9th

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Moore with a 1-2-3 bottom of the ninth to complete the 2 hit shutout. Beavers win 9-0.

    • HopefulBeav says:
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      First update I've been able to check and it's a damn good one! Go Beavs.

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    It's a good that I wasn't coaching the Ducks.  I would have scored a touchdown, converted the extra point, recovered an onsides kick and won 10-9 with a last second field goal.  Baseball is too easy.  JB

  • Ionebeaver Ionebeaver says:
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    Nice 2011 interview with North Eugene standout Moore on why he chose OSU.  First pac12 pitcher with 11 wins this year and sets OSU freshman record for wins with a shut-out against his home-town ucks.  

    http://highschoolsports.oregonlive.com/news/article/-4857134135007236334/andrew-moore-commits-to-oregon-state-title-ix-controversy-and-more-oregon-high-school-sports-news-links/

      

    • helmsley says:
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      And he was only 17 at the time. Composed and self-assured and smart and talented – whew!

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        Sounds like Helmsley is ready to go all Cougar on young Andrew. Meoooooow.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    From OLive:

     

    "The loss was Oregon's first of the 2012-13 school year against a Northwest rival (Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) in football, men's basketball or baseball this season. The Ducks had won the first 18 games of the school year in those major men's sports."

    • mckalk says:
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      Damn, that is a sobering statistic.

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        Sobering my ass. Makes me want go on a bender!  Tired of losing to them. Today and Tuesday are important pycholoically for all our sports programs. And for my liver.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Tyler Smith leads off with a single and advances to second on a throwing error by the Ducks' third baseman

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    Conforto with an RBI single. 1-0 Beavers

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Maybe it's already been posted, but does anybody know of a video stream for today? (other than pac 12 network, which i don't have)

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    Any links to listen to the game without paying for the Beaver Nation Online crap?  Is it on a radio station.  

     

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    Beaver bats alive early today.  Keyes single to left, followed by Barnes bunt with fielding error by ducks.  2 on to start the 2nd inning. Rodriquez advances Keyes and Barnes to 2nd and 3rd but gets out.  2 on, 1down.

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    bases loaded, 1 out

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    Bases loaded walk for Tyler Smith. 2-0 Beavers

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    ducks walk Smith with bases loaded to score Beav's 2nd run.

    Bases still loaded with Peterson up. 

     

    Conforto GRAND SLAM!!!  6-0 Beavs!

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    Conforto with a grand slam with 2 down. 6-0 Beavers.

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    Davis gets on with base hit.  Bats are so active today, Beavs playing with fire.  Maybe they heard Angry doubting them after 1 inning on Friday.

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      It's win win because I'm either right and look like a genius or wrong and happy to look dumb.

      Beavs offense has surprised me the past two days, no doubt.

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    Oregon ucks…congratulations…you've just been Confortoed.

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    Hayes gets to 1st, moves Davis to 3rd.  2 down. Keyes up

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    Wetzler loads the bases.  wasn't helped by some poor fielding. 1 out

    It's a battle today

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     Single, error and walk have loaded the bases with 1 down for Oregon

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    Gordon diving catch at warning track to get the 3rd out!  Parker goes wild.

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      Max Gordon has been bailing out pitchers all season with his incredible defense in center.

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    6-0 Beavers after 2 innings

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    RBI single with two down by Tyler Smith makes it 7-0 Beavers

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    Damn. Should have done the yard work earlier. Would have been pretty exciting to hear Parker go nuts with Conforto's slam.

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    7-0 Beavers after 3 innings

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    Child or Starr on Tuesday?

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      Probably Child. He'll probably go just 2 innings. Likely will see Fry at some point on Tuesday.

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    announcer…"Dylan Davis, not known for his speed." (??)

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    7-1 Beavers now after another Keyes error and an RBI single. Wetzler needs to limit them to just 1 run this inning.

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      Wetzler does just that. 7-1 Beavers after 4 innings

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    "Those are key errors by Keyes."

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    Ducks get a run in the 5th on an RBI double but Wetzler gets a big double play to limit the damage to a run. 7-2 Beavers. Conforto with a 1 out walk in the 6th. Gotta keep on tacking runs.

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    Bases loaded and 2 outs for Ryan Barnes

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    7-2 Beavers after 6 innings

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    Tony Bryant coming in with 1 out in the 7th. 6 1/3 for Wetzler, 6 hits allowed, 6 strikeouts, 2 runs, 1 ER. Solid start.

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    7-2 Beavers after 7 innings

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    Peterson on 2nd with 1 out for Dylan Davis and Jimmie Sherfy is coming in for Oregon.

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    Dylan Davis with an RBI single. 8-2 Beavers.

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    Keyes RBI single. 9-2 Beavers

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    RBI double by Barnes and sac fly by Rodriguez makes it 11-2 Beavers

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    RBI double by Conforto, 12-2 Beavers

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    #beaverbarrage

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    Jace Fry coming in for the bottom of the 9th with the Beavers leading 12-2

  • Timber! says:
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    21 – 2 Beavs over last 2 days. Just want to enjoy that for now.

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      Damn touchscreen. Meant to thumb up…

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    Scott Schultz coming in with 2 down now

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    12-2 final.  Beavs win.  Awesome job boys.  Let's wrap up that Pac-12 title Friday night against Wazzu

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    Beavers win 12-2 to take a 2 game lead in the conference with 3 games remaining.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Adam Jude (@A_Jude) tweeted at 3:30 PM on Sun, May 19, 2013:
    George Horton on the Beavers: “We got whipped, no question. … It’s a tough thing to say, but they’re the best team in the conference.”
    (https://twitter.com/A_Jude/status/336247506176450560)

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    If I was coaching the Ducks I would have punted at 1-0.  It reminded me of some of the football games I endured, I mean coached.  JB

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    It was really nice to see a Beaver team bitch-whip a Duck team on two consecutive days.  Not to be a glutton, but I really want them to win the non-con game also, so lame Quackers cannot claim they won the series. Even though we all know who won when it counted most.

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    preach on brotha!

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    The bats are wakin up!    Makin a statement!     Keep it going, guys!     Roll into that post season poundin the ball….yooouuwseeer!

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      “yooouuwseeer”? wtf is that?

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        I'm his caretaker, rsteve is mentally challenged and sometimes lets an "outburst" come out every now and then. Don't judge him.

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          So I cant spell for shit….    Grape — is it time for my ethanol injection yet?     Yeeeehaaaw!

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    Greg Anderson and Angry’s own Richie Harrington rumored to be arrained on DUI charges.

    • angry angry says:
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      Maybe he was partying with Russel Wilson.

      It's a shame, Beavs are going to have to cut the best QB on the roster.

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        I don't think a DUI would be a cut, maybe a 3 game suspension?  No reps in the Eastern Washington game.

        • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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          Pull a Chippy and reinstate him for the Civil War. Our secret weapon.

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      I see Anderson's mug on 5/19. I don't see anything for Harrington unless it was tonight and hasn't been posted yet.

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      Who is Greg Anderson?

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    Great job Beavs smoking Duck.  Great job in basketball filling a huge point guard hole. The guy I was pulling for  (Jesse Holmes) signed to play fb and perhaps bb at the Air Force Academy after turning down preferred bb walkon status with the Ducks, Pepperdine and Boise.  Now how about Beaver women taking a look at his twin sister Nina, a better all around athlete and fiery competitor.

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    Mike Riley ‏@Coach_Riley 1m

    #BeaverNation which one is your favorite? Can't wait to roll these out! #GoBeavs pic.twitter.com/uwxt7DFN3H

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      Too hard to pick.  Maybe a wardrobe change at halftime?

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    OT… ESPN lay-offs

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      Layoffs to enhance their continued growth?  Nice.

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        Maybe they'll get rid of some of their stupid side shows like Around the Horn, or anything with Stephen A Smith or Skip Bayless.

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          In the pre-cable age, I thought an all sports network would be the most incredible imaginable. ESPN found a way to make sports boring.  Nice work!

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    Today’s non-con civil war gake has been rained out

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      Damn!!!!!

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        Just saw an email from the school saying the game will also not be made up.  Wonder if Uncle Phil it wouldn't be rescheduled if rained out and decided to get one of those crazy rain making lazers to fire off into the skies above Corvallis today?  Didn't want to see his team get their asses whooped again.

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          Uncle Phil plotting to keep the season series at 2-2!  Move the damn game to Reser and kick the Duck's asses on the turf!

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    OT… Everyone take part please.

    The selling of genetically altered seeds isn't really the issue. If you hate the environmental movement for litigating against logging with the Protected Species Act, then you should sign this petition 50 times just to avoid the most litigious group in what we all know to be an overly litigious nation… that being corporations.

    The seeds can reseed and travel to neighboring farms. They can also produce seeding plants which produce next year's seed for farmers. Monsanto has many many people who police these seeds in order to make them an annual purchase. In order to do that, they must file suit against farmers who use second generation seeds for a crop. That propietary extension has been thrown out in advanced countries like Brazil. (?)

    But worse than that is the litigation against farms who end up with reseeds due to nature. Imagine yourself a small businessman who breaks even in an already tough market. Now imagine yourself having to defend yourself because professional agitants hired by Big Ag find a few plants have reseeded on your plot. Their army of lawyers versus you. Can you still break even?

    Big Ag is one of the scourges on this nation. And I'm talking subsidies all the way to protective acts like this and the litigations with which they clog our courts. I'm not even going to start on the "drug war" and how Big Ag has begun Big Jail as an industry all to itself.

    These people need to stopped. Maybe they're just following the laissez faire principle of increased profits in the face of zero regulation. Or maybe they're killing America.

    I think the latter.

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      Do you have a link to the petition?

      Mansanto has the Supreme Court bending over for them.

      A easy first step for any of us who want to make a small difference, stop buying/using Roundup.  One of the worst but most common products you could use.  Contains the ingredient Glyphosate, which has recently been dubbed "the most biologically disruptive chemical in our environment." 

      Mansanto has genetically modified seeds to be resistant to Roundup (which they also produce), which encourages farmers to not only buy their seeds, but also spray mass quantities of roundup over their crops to fight weeds, since the crops won't be affected by the weed killer.

      Got weeds to kill?  Just put some white vinegar in a spray bottle and spray the leaves.  It works, and it's cheaper, plus won't poison the environment and your family.

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        Oh nooooo!!!!

        Homeopathic remedies don't work!!!! And they're not cheaper!!!!

        Or do they?

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        Ugh, I hate Roundup.  I got one of those weed puller thingy's made by Fiskar's.  Works just fine and beats digging with the screwdriver or giving my dog cancer.

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        Add a shot of dishsoap to your white vinegar. Helps it stick to the weeds.

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      Spot on.  I believe this is the petition you're referring to?

      http://www.change.org/petitions/oregon-house-of-representatives-pass-hb-2736

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        Anything works. This is just as egregious as the 2005 Federal energy bill which exempted too many corporations from following the law. Maybe even moreso since it's at the state level. I'm ready to color some poster board and stand in the rain for this one.

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      Timely…

      Speaking of GMO in Oregon…

      http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/gmo-wheat-discovery-threatens-industry/article_523df8de-c8fa-11e2-94e9-0019bb2963f4.html

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    forgot the link

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    More bread and circuses:

    "“If this Super Bowl can show the state of California and other communities the opportunity with a new stadium to bring in fresh business, it could be a catalyst that stadiums can be built for Oakland and San Diego, which are in need of new ones,” he said. “This may be the impetus to get one of those done.” 

    http://www.oregonlive.com/nfl/index.ssf/2013/05/super_bowl_awarded_to_san_fran.html#incart_river

     

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      I call bulshit. People in Oakland and SF are good with their stadiums. They know what to expect, and they're loyal.

      Maybe someone somewhere is just trying to leverage free money?

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        *cough*

        *cough*

        Sorry… I thought the idea of stadium rebuilds and new constructions were just a boondoggle for team owners.

        I apologize for being so naive.

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    OT I ran into Ben Motter at the gym last week.  He was none too proud of himself for his behavior.  He looked good though so hopefully he got the dumbass out of his system and gets his life turned around.  Knew him when he was in high school and I thought he was a good kid

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      Ask him how the heroin trade is going.

      • whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        how about you come down to the gym and ask him that to his face?

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          Why? Is he not yet able to be at peace with himself and his issues? Would the mere mention of his problems send him into a rage?

          I think I'll pass since he has an inch, 15 pounds and 20 years on me… and you seem to think he's not willing to own his actions.

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            kinda what I thought

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            You were the one suggesting he's not cool and probably unstable. Doesn't it make sense to not poke a rabid dog?

            If he were cool, then I would easily rib him for his mistakes. And he could do the same to me.

            I'm a man. I can take what I give and accept who I am and what I've done.

            You suggest Motter is not one. I'll accept your word.

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            no, I was saying you would be too chicken shit to come down and ask him that to his face.  Kinda what I thought

          • Jack says:
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            No. You infer that he's unstable and can't own his actions. I don't poke rabid dogs, let alone seek them out to poke them. Call that chicken if you like. I call it reasonable. If he were not as you infer and could handle himself as a man, then I would have no hesitation to ask him. I also would not ask this of an unstable 5'6", 120# junkie. So your conditions are relative. If he manages to save himself, he will freely offer up info on that life as a warning to others… and because he will then be honest with himself and others.

            Personally, I do like the route the judge and the justice system took in his case. Yes, there was some property theft and b&e. But he's a junkie, and junkies don't do this stuff if drugs are handled correctly. The "war on drugs" creates conditions in which people lost in the subculture feel forced to do irrational things in order to survive.

            I wish him luck breaking that habit. I've seen more people fail in trying than have succeeded. So I know his road is a hard one. I wish our government would get off its butt and trade methodone clinics for ibogaine clinics. But that's another story.

            I am quite interested in the heroin trade and how it kicked up again a few years ago. I think it surpassed prescription drugs a few years back as the number one killer in Oregon for overdoses. Nothing speaks to the abject failure of an increased police state against drugs like the free flow of heroin. And nothing fuels conspiracy theories about illicit agents within our government killing Americans on the street like an influx of a drug sourced from US occupied territories on the other side of the world. I can't tell a conspiracy wonk that there isn't another Ollie North (or two or three) out there. The numbers say there's at least one, if not many anti-American fucks like North out there.

            So when you feel he can handle it, ask him how the hell someone like him got caught up in heroin. I'd also like to know about the football team and other drugs, and he may be able to shed light on that as well. But his personal story is of interest because he was someone who I would never have thought would become the opposite of what he was as a high level athlete and a student.

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            I'd rather not hold judgment and ask him about his mistakes.  Nor especially bring it up in the tone you did.  He was a good kid when I knew him in HS.

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      you go to philomath high?

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    OT – http://helenair.com/sports/college/carroll-college/indiana-prep-coach-picked-to-lead-carroll-men-s-basketball/article_0e500b34-c22a-11e2-912f-001a4bcf887a.html

    Anybody know/remember Carson Cunningham or why he transferred from the Beavs to Purdue? Also, if Carroll College -(NAIA school – top-notch academics, the football team has won several national championships (and I am reluctant to add, home of the Petrinos)) attracts applications from over 200 basketball coaches, I can only assume there are a lot of basketball coaches out there. ISAH hope CR can find a good one.

     

    • Jack says:
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      Carroll gets so many apps because of the carousel just across the street.

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        That may be true for the students – they are neat and upright (maybe even Bobby Petrino whilst he was there) and I doubt that any of them consider going into the brewpub to attempt an underage drink. Interesting juxtaposition – a carousel and a brewpub. However, I thought you, of all people might know of Carson Cunningham and did he really break Gary Payton's freshman scoring record when he was with the Beavs?

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          Points or scoring with Beaver babes?

          A couple of cousins played football and B-ball at Carroll back in the day.

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            I watched Portland State demolish Carroll College last year that weekend we were supposed to play Nicholls St.

          • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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            I was at that game too.  Carroll didn't embarrass themselves in that game.  They actually hung with PSU for much of it, but had a few costly turnovers in the 2nd half.  PSU was supposed to win that game anyway, they're in a higher rated division.

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            The basketball points are a matter of record. Scoring with the babes – we'll probably never know.

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      Not sure exactly why he transferred.  Homesick maybe?  He's from Indiana so maybe he wanted to play closer to home?  All I know is Eddie Payne had a top notch recruiting class that year.  He was great at bringing in talent, but he was also great at having that same talent leave the program early.  That class also had Corey Benjamin, Ron Grady and JB Bickerstaff.  All had moved on by the end of the next year (Benjamin to NBA, Grady and Bickerstaff transferred)  That was a class that could have gone deep in the NCAA Tournament had they stuck together.

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        Bickerstaff was an ok player at the U of Minn. and is advancing up the food chain in the coaching ranks with the help of dad's connections.

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          I read that he interviewed recently for one of the vacant NBA head coaching positions.  He's done pretty well for himself after college (of course hard to go wrong with dad's connections)

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    Just found this link explaining the transfer a little better:

    http://oldgoldfreepress.com/hoopsrecruiting/recruits/cunning.shtml

     

    Player Summary

    Carson Cunningham wanted to come to Purdue last year but was unable due to the verbal commitment of fellow point prospect Mosi Barnes. Since Indiana University showed little interest, he went west to Oregon State University and joined a recruiting class that according to Beaver Coach Eddie Payne was the "Michigan Fab Five minus a power forward". Cunningham would go on to not only co-lead the Beavers in scoring but also lead the team in assists. In a conference full of the nations top point guards Cunningham was named to the PAC10 All-Freshman team. A stat destined to make him a favorite in the eyes of Purdue was his 1.1:1 assist-to-turnover ratio. Keady will stress a 2:1 ratio at Purdue, a mark only approached by center Brad Miller. Purdue's point play suffered most of the season with more turnovers than assists, but Alan Eldridge eventually ended up with a 1.1:1 ratio. Cunningham is a former Indiana All-Star and has played on the same AAU squad with all the Purdue freshmen. His transfer to Purdue will mark only the fourth transfer Coach Keady has accepted at Purdue.

    Current Player News

    11-3-97…Follow this link to a good story on Cunningham from the Indianapolis Star. 10-19-97…A redshirt and a transfer places #1 and #2 in the 3-point shooting contest at Mackey Magic on Friday. Cunningham finished with 11 threes, four short of redshirt freshman B.J. Carretta's winning score. Cunningham played on the Mackey Arena floor in front of a crowd for the second time in recent years. He was in attendance for the Spiece/Mackey AAU challenge in June of 1996, where he performed on the same squad as then Purdue recruits Mike Robinson, Mosi Barnes, Jaraan Cornell, Gary and Greg McQuay. In Mackey on Friday, Cunningham hit from the perimeter using either hand, and showed some of the crisp passing and slashing moves that brought him an All-PAC10 freshman team award last year at Oregon State. 9-11-97…Carson Cunningham has completed his transfer to Purdue University, and has enrolled in classes at the West Lafayette campus. Cunningham will join the team next year after sitting out for a year due to NCAA transfer rules. 4-25-97…Carson Cunningham has officially announced that he will transfer to Purdue after a standout freshman season at Oregon State University. "I'm looking forward to the challenge of playing at Purdue," Carson said. "I decided to get back to the area and play closer to my family. I wanted a chance to win a title." Carson called it a "hard call" to decide to leave Oregon State. "It's probably one of the bigger decisions I'll probably have to make in my life," added Cunningham. "I think everything will work out OK. It's not a reflection on Oregon State."

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    Thanks, BB – you answered it all during the time I was typing away to Jack. Wow – 2 bad they all transferred. Think what might have been. I don't pay much attention to Carroll athletics and I can only think this is a stepping stone for Mr. Cunningham. Still, I find the OSU connection of interest.

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      I don't know how good they would have been. If I remember correctly they were a 20 loss team even as the "West Coast Fab Five".  They really didn't have an inside presence in a tough P-10.  I remember watching them barely put away Portland St.  Like Gopher said Bickerstaff was ok at Minny and Grady was ok at Colorado St.  Cunningham had a lot of talent around him and better coaching at Purdue.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    PAC's Scott highest paid commissioner? That shouldn't last long (how would the SEC tolerate it?!?):

    http://college-football.si.com/2013/05/20/pac-12-larry-scott-highest-paid-commissioner/?sct=uk_t2_a5

     

    Speculations on the future of NCAA football:

     

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130522/ncaa-conference-relationship-mailbag/?sct=uk_t11_a1

    C'mon Mike! Win one legitimate, sccandal free Rose Bowl before I walk away from this mess. "Go out there and win one for the 'Critic!"

    That should be inspiring….

  • angry angry says:
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    A few weeks ago I was talking about a bad feeling in our social/economic markets.

    Well, Japanese stocks were down over 7% today, over 1000 points. Considering our own market melted up on light volume and for the same reasons as theirs, the crowded trade could become desolate quickly.

    (Go Beavs)

    • beaver strikeforce says:
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      Another blowout in the jgb market.  The alarm bells have got to be deafening in Tokyo.  Only $10 trillion at stake here.  

      This reminds me of watching the mortgage meltdown.  Except this is watching an entire country meltdown.

       

  • beaver strikeforce says:
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    http://www.katu.com/sports/Documents-shed-more-light-on-Oregons-NCAA-investigation-208569051.html

    "The notice of allegations does not include any mention of “lack of institutional control,” which could have led to harsher penalties. It does, however, say the Ducks could be penalized under the so-called repeat offender clause because they previously violated NCAA rules in 2004."

     

    Wouldnt repeat major infraction offender inherently mean lack of institutional control?

     

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      I think it means that they knew they were violating rules, and tried to cover it up or ignored it.    But that Lyles activity in Texas seemed to implicate James, so cant see how they get off light.    Is it the Nike connection?  

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    Anyone know what is happening with the site: D1Baseball.com??  A terrific source for info but now I only get a "403 Forbidden" message.  Hope it is only temporary.

  • Jack says:
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    OT… This is pretty amazing stuff.

  • Jack says:
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    So glad our rebranding makes our brand so recognizeable.

    Sheesh!

    What the author fails to note is that oSu baseball used the linked OS we were using with only a slightly different font. So Cowboy fans were buying those caps because they easily pass for "throwback" oSu caps. And if they were the block O caps, then you can go back even further to find oSu unis with that O on the cap and STATE across the chest. Those were some classic unis.

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      I understand confusing the different OS, OSU etc. logos, but how do you confuse a Beaver head logo with a cowboy?

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        Does the Cowboy have buck teeth?

  • progressivebeav says:
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    So there’s this…

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      Anybody surprised this is what their record looks like?

      2012-2013 SCHEDULE

      Overall
      24-32

      Conf.
      6-18

      Home
      19-15

      Away
      4-14

      Neutral
      1-3

      • progressivebeav says:
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        And they fired their coach. No fun.

  • Jack says:
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    So I know about the 2013 class signed in November. And I expect to lose a couple to the majors since none of them have done what Conforto and Davis did and just told scouts there was no way they were going to sign, so don't bother wasting a pick on them… so far.

    But I just picked this bit up as well. Casey is beyond nationwide continentwide hemispherewide now.

    I also like this official Pac 12 baseball blog write-up as much for what's missing as for the headline. Simply awesome! Sorry to the conspiracy wonks in advance.

    • Jack says:
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      More on Fox.

    • HopefulBeav says:
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      "New Zealand’s top baseball prospect Makauley Fox is heading to study and play baseball at Oregon State University after securing a full scholarship from the prestigious United States school."

      They know their stuff. I like this site!

      • helmsley says:
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        These are the bits I liked:

        Makauley Fox is heading to study and play baseball at Oregon State University

        if you train hard and also work hard in school (Fox)

         it’s also a positive and wonderful time in a young man’s life when you have options,’’ he said. ( Baseball New Zealand chief executive Ryan Flynn)

    • HopefulBeav says:
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      Any word on where this guy would have gone in the draft? Or better yet, are there any good sites for baseball recruiting?

      • Jack says:
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        The draft is only open to players who have graduated HS or finished three years at a higher level (with some caveats for both) in Canada, the US or a US territory.

        I haven't seen any comparables, but there are penalties for oversigning (or bonusing) international free agents. So if several MLB teams were after him they must have seen good value.

  • progressivebeav says:
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    SI's annual Riley article: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130524/mike-riley-oregon-state/

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Any chance we can get a new thread before the game starts?

     

    Anybody know of any video streams.  Sounds like it's on the Pac-12 network so those of us without Comcast are left out again.

    • JD says:
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      It's crazy that we can only watch games when they aren't on TV.

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