14.May.2013 Oregon Sanctions

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Let the moaning begin: Article

The Ducks will lose one or two scholarships for three years, have some restrictions on recruiting and be placed on probation for five years.

They'll avoid the hammer, penalties like a bowl ban, rescinded titles or vacated wins. Those "looming sanctions" will no longer loom so ominously.

Fans of other schools around the PAC-12 will be moaning that the Ducks got a slap on the wrist, but the ruling feels appropriate and reasonable. The investigation took so long that UO deserves some credit for time served.

Appropriate and reasonable? So they get to a title game and 2 Rose Bowls with those players, yet only lose 1 or 2 scholarships, and this is reasonable?

UO deserves credit for time served? What time served? Scruitny for cheating and (negative) public opinion now count as time served?

That's nice.

Go NCAA.

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  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Gotta love the “time served” quote. Do everything in your power to drag out the investigation and then call it time served.

    The blog’s writer had this in the comments section regarding the validity of his statements and his sources:

    Dale Newton 232 pts AugustDuck Nobody can talk on the record about a pending NCAA investigation. Several sources close to the program, among them boosters, alumni, former athletes, members of the blogging community that follow the team closely and speak directly to coaches (off the record) all convey the same message. The Ducks aren’t getting failure to monitor and lack of institutional control. Minimal scholarships and probation. Official decision to follow in a few weeks. I’m not a news organization. I don’t do this for money. As such, I don’t have to justify or explain myself to anyone. But I have this story right, and my observations and insights on Oregon football are arrived at pretty carefully. Check back on my scouting report on Marcus Mariota as an incoming freshman http://www.duckstopshere.com/articles/player-profiles/getting-to-know-the-2011-oregon-duck-newcomers-marcus-mariota.html. I don’t have the access or time that the print guys and big money media guys do, but I do my homework, and my opinions aren’t colored by a stop at the Autzen Stadium press buffet. If I’m wrong, I’ll refund your subscription :). But when this shakes out in the next few weeks, I’m confident I’ll be correct.  

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      There is no such thing as TIME SERVED in such affairs.    The investigation isnt a penalty…..its just a bit of bad publicity, like Harris speeding on I-5 doing a dope run to Ptld.      Time served, my ass.     That is just duck fan talk.

      It must not have been possible to tie LaMicheal in to Lyles, or a bunch of that would have to be voided.

       

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    Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaan!

  • angry angry says:
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    NCAA corruption.

    Two years to figure out who to pay off, while the public slowly forgot…

  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    Well, kudos those on this blog who had it right.    IMO such a ruling is ludicrous just in view of what we fans know. 

    A couple possible factors…..Lyles proved a poor witness, and the NIKE association really helped UO.     The cheaters won…

    Sheeeeiiiiiiiit

     

     

  • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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    I like how the author writes that the Ducks don't need to cheat to win the PAC, then goes on to say that pretty much every school cheats.  Then he suggests that the Rodgii got free food with Lamichael.  Dick!

  • carltogr carltogr says:
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    Moaannnn…..then watch this!

     



  • carltogr carltogr says:
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    Just like Charles Ramsey, the team down south….must have "big testicles" to pull that kind of crap!!!

  • carltogr carltogr says:
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    Beavs ranked 3rd in NCBWA poll….

    http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d1/ncbwa

  • Timber! says:
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    doesn't 5 years probation = no postseason for 5 years? I don't get it.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    The thing that gets me is the 2nd major violation in a 5 year period rule (or repeat violator rule) appears to have no impact in this ruling. Whats the point of having such a rule if you aren’t willing to enforce it.

    NCAA Bylaw 19.5.2.3.1, also known as the “repeat violator rule,” states “an institution shall be considered a ‘repeat’ violator if the Committee on Infractions finds that a major violation has occurred within five years of the starting date of a major penalty. For this provision to apply, at least one major violation must have occurred within five years after the starting date of the penalties in the previous case.” 

    Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

    • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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      This wasn't a major violation.

      Uh, I mean, uh…

      I guess it's only a majot violation if you, uh…

      Nevermind.

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    OT: Ucks vs Gonzaga, down 2-0 in their half of the 6th the ucks tie it up on TWO walks, a WP, and a fielders choice!  Will their lucky ways end this weekend??

    Back On Topic: Time served?? Unbelievable!!! You just can’t makes this stuff up.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    To Top It Off, Watch The Ducks Take The Series This Weekend….Luck O’ The Beavers.

    • oneoldbeav says:
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      Beavs can prevent that by playing D like they did at sunken diamond and following Casey's mantra…"throw strikes".

      On the offensive side, Beavs need to swing the bat…ucks have several pitchers who throw lots of strikes.

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    Whadaya think, would it benefit the Beavs for the ucks to loose one (or two) to Gonzaga?  Does it matter at all?

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      Wouldnt hurt, but I’d be more interested in them going to extra innings in both games. Sounds like theyre tied in the 9th currently so I may get my wish.

      • oneoldbeav says:
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        Any danger the Beavs would be overconfident in the event of a loss or two to the Zags?

        • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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          Considering they've already beaten the Beavs in non-con play, they shouldn't be overconfident in any scenario.

          • oneoldbeav says:
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            Makes sense, hope you're right.  Casey factor should be a big positive in this regard as well.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Zags walk to load the bases with 2 out in the bottom of the 9th.  Would love to see them get a K here and go into extra innings.

    • oneoldbeav says:
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      THREE walks and a single give the 9th inning win to the ucks!
      I am really looking forward to the Beavs pitchers having anything close to their typical weekend. If they keep the BB to a minimum and avoid WP’s I really like their chances.

      • steveEbeaver says:
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        Yep, and Gonzaga had a chance to end the threat with a DP but the secondbaseman booted it.  They were fortunate to get a FC out of it when the ducks committed a baserunning error and got hung up between 3rd and home.  But the Zags found a way to give it away.

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      ….and Oregon wins.  They're announcer says "they find a way again…..to get 'er done…"

       

      get 'er done?  which school is the ag school in this state again?

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    I noticed that Healy wasn't in the lineup tonight or Sunday vs tOSU, injured?

  • mckalk says:
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    The writer is a smug, Duck asshole, but unfortunately he's probably close to being accurate.  Luck O' The Beavs!

    • bavergopher bavergopher says:
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      Redundant, just say he is a Duck LOL.

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        I spelled my own name wrong. Should have taken typing in HS.

        • mckalk says:
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          Luck O' The Beavs that you can't spell!

  • Jack says:
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    Two things:

    1. I'm not sure what was expected of this after Tennessee got hit for dealing with Lyles. There are a lot of things that go on in this town which are way worse, but the NCAA doesn't seem to care abot those things. "Big time" college football is just a money-grubbing joke.

    2. We Beaver fans are just sucking at following these most recent rumors. I thought Duck fan thought we were the only fans who cared about this in the whole world. Yet I cruise through PO and they don't mention anything on this now four day old "report" about a week-old rumor until yesterday either. And I'm told Scout forums didn't know about it either. But a quick google shows fans all over the country moaning almost instantly four days ago and linking to this blog. I see Michigan State, Tennessee, tOSU, UFla, eaTme, BYU, Notre Dame, Syracuse and on and on all linking to the blog and talking in the same cynical tones Duck fan accuses us of creating out of jealousy. We need to be more vigilant in our jealousy. Every other fan base out there beat us to this story by at least three days.

    Beaver fans, we must not allow… a cynical, moronically ascribed jealousy gap!

     

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      Now that cheers me up!     Our blog team defense speed is just slow to the ball.    Then we dont even tackle well…. damn…

      We CAN overcome this ….GAP!

       

    • mckalk says:
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      Institutional arrogance lends itself to wide ranging hatred!

      My cynicism towards all things NCAA is so profound, I just don't care.  Maybe if Chip Kelly was forced to come back to Eugene and stand in the lobby of the Eugene Hilton for an entire weekend personally apologizing for cheating to anyone who walked by  (without being allowed to wear his visor) then I might raise an eyebrow.

  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    Man, this coming weekend is for all the Pac 12 marbles.    Oh, great Beaver in the sky….grant us strength and the will to win this series!

  • Jack says:
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    Brasfield in La today.

    Darrell Chark Jr.

    • Jack says:
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      Brasfield is busy today.

      Jerry Tillery

    • ObjCritic says:
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      What do you suppose the annual total budget is for recruiting, including travel costs.

      • Jack says:
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        I think I've seen numbers around $350k for us. And that's because we do have to travel. UCLA and USC spend one third that because they can just take an afternoon jaunt to look at/talk to most kids.

  • Jack says:
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    I kinda like this. Do we think it keeps going all summer?

    • mckalk says:
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      I'm happy to see Langsdork mining the fertile recruiting grounds of Tijuana, Mexico in search of the next Jacquizz Rodgers!

      • Jack says:
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        He's looking for a kick returner… someone who can break through the wall, avoid gunners and break for daylight.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Aaron Fitt ‏@aaronfitt 18m

    #OregonState coach Pat Casey says LHP Jace Fry (who returned vs. Cal) will be a factor down stretch; looked good in simulated game Monday.

  • duckman says:
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    Go Ducks!! Beavers suck.

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      well played.  you even spelled everything correctly.

      • Jack says:
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        I'm surprised he could find anything to rhyme with duck. I mean… nothing pops into my mind when I try to rhyme with duck. What pops into your mind?

    • carltogr carltogr says:
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      …..can't wait for Duck wrestling next year$$$$

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    ducks take care of Gonzaga tonight, 4-1.  They didn't pitch anybody that we would expect to see this weekend.  I'm including Sherfy as I don't expect him to be in any save situation.

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    Angry has mentioned the value of using a team psychologist in relation particularly to  the FB team.  It has always made sense to me and I remember news of Casey using one a year or two back.  From an article on U of O softball, "…the Ducks have taken advantage of a university-provided team psychologist. Each team at UO has access to one but none take advantage of it like the softball team. "

    Maybe it just isn't publicized, anyone know if "each team" at OSU has access to one?

    http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2013/05/ncaa_softball_oregon_ducks_use.html

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Reading that Michael Duvivier has signed up to play pg in Beavs 2013 class.

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      Typo, should say Malcom Duvivier

    • Jack says:
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      This is a major get for CR. This kid is a top 100 player from the 2014 class. His mom is proud. I'm quite happy with this signing.

      Malcolm Duvivier

      • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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        Did he graduate early? was originally listed as class of 2014, but signed as 2013.

        • Jack says:
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          Canadian schools are light years ahead of US schools. Their "senior" year is essentially a college prep year. I think Quebec is the only province now which just graduates kids after grade 11 regardless of age. Most other provinces have compulsory schooling for anyone under 18, making grade 12 superfluous for some kids. Apparently Malcolm was one of those kids.

    • Jack says:
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      Like I said a couple weeks ago, CR is pretty good at closing once he gets kids on campus. In this case, he closed a kid a year early. I don't know how it went down, but I'm happy it did. He was a 2014 target very early, just like Nickens. And he was just now starting to blow up. You all know the type from football recruiting. He's one of those kids "lesser" schools offer very early just to get in the door, then USC comes in with a month to go and takes him away. Nickens is the same way. And I would really love it if Georgetown slow plays Nickens through the summer. I think we're where he lands if the Hoyas wait on local players instead of making him feel like a priority. And that's with the expectation of him landing another 20+ offers before the ESP.

      I guess we're not waiting until November and the early signing period to get this one.

      • Jack says:
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        And here's a "neat" idea.

        Duvivier can communicate with Daniel and Cheikh in French.

        • helmsley says:
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          Very cool – perhaps they can communicate in French when they're on out on the floor together in a game (or just 2 of them) to rattle the opposition a little.

          "Canadian schools are light years ahead": Might I generalize that Canada is light years ahead of the US – most particularly in health care and gun control.

          • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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            Nice as can be, too.  I love going to B.C.

          • Jack says:
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            I also love BC. Even Tim Horton's is better than Dunkin' Donuts by a mile.

            What's up with that?

          • Jack says:
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            Considering their "gun control" is only (well… not only, but mostly) involving handguns, I would agree. Any legislation in the US involving anything but handguns doesn't even pretend to comprehend our gun violence problem. If you pull up any stats on the subject, I guarantee it will show that the aspects of the Brady Bill which dealt with handguns were the only effective rules enforced in the last 100 years.

            Well… keeping in mind that nuclear missiles are "arms," I guess we could expand the conversation a little to just wonder aloud how the US government could possibly be allowed to breach the Constitution's second amendment to infringe on our rights to own one (or more).

            Taking it the other direction, why can the government disallow me from carrying a couple of my favorite knives in public?

            And health care isn't even a comparison. If really really really wealthy people didn't come to the US to die of their particular ailments which are terminal for them and everyone else, we wouldn't be 37th in the world for health care. We might be 36th.

          • mckalk says:
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            In a previous life I died in Canada waiting for a specialist.

      • AKBeaver AKBeaver says:
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        Jack,

        I'd love to hear your analysis of Duvivier.

  • Jack says:
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    I have to hand it to Riley et al. The Twit maps are getting attention.

    Between this and tote board planes, we're doing some pretty original stuff. Here's hoping more recruits are succumbing to the #BeaverBarrage and drinking the #BeaverJuice.

    *It sounds… wrong. Or does it?

    • Jack says:
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      Ugh!

      I guess all we need is to add a little in and out to the mix and we're a clockwork orange?

    • helmsley says:
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      Do you think  Rizzardini has something to do with this good stuff?

      "At OSU his primary area of focus is on the external constituents that include: fan experience, ticket sales, website, social media, Beaver Sports Properties, licensing, advertising and media relationships."

      I hope so – I love the thought of someone working in the background to make things happen.

      • Jack says:
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        There are a lot of recent hires in the AD who are Larry Scott smart when it comes to social media and donor requests. There's a reaon I think Dan Guerrero is an idiot.

        • JD says:
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          I have gotten to know that reason a little bit and that reason really wants to be our next AD.

          • Jack says:
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            He is probably right in line. And coming on when he did makes him perfect for the job.

          • Jack says:
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            To expound on that thought, the greatest compliment I can get as a billiards player is that I seem to see my shot four shots before it happens. I kinda giggle at this compliment, but it's still high praise. I got the same compliments for chess when I was a kid, but I thought chess was boring.

            I actually like chess. But I can really see how it really is boring. I'm a victim of the same.

            Anyway, playing pool was much more dynamic. And it resulted in wins or losses which were obvious upon play. There were some people I knew I had o run the table to beat. There were others. I always played better when I knew I had to make the shot.

            I imagine someone who might want the OSU AD job in 2016 might come on board and make his case with big splashes across the board before assuming his mantle.

            It's what I would do.

            And if it doesn't happen, then another school gets to experience the Luck-O-the-Beavs.

          • helmsley says:
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            Sorry to be so thick, but will you please connect the Larry Scott, Dan Guerrero, "that reason" and AD dots for me?

          • Jack says:
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            One very very smart and kind man.

          • helmsley says:
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            Thx – only one dot, but I think I get it.            

        • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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          Meaning they can't get the PAC-12 TV deal done either?

          Agree on Dan.

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      After reading about BeaverBarrage, I suddenly have the urge to go to Stars Cabaret after work today.

      • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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        You can tell your wife/gf its Mike Riley’s fault when you come home covered in glitter and smelling like coconut oil.

        • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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          He leaves the house like that every morning, so no problem.

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        You may redefine "Luck O the Beavs" and learn to love the phrase Jason.

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          Every time I read that stupid phrase on this site I fire an employee; just so you guys know how you're affecting the Beaverton economy and employment rate.

          • mckalk says:
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            So your poor terminated employees kind of have "luck o' the Beavs" to have you as their  boss.

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            Oh dammit, there goes shop assistant Jim.  He was only 3 days away from being vested too.  Mckalk why you such a dick!?  What do you have against a hard working man?

          • WFO WFO says:
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            McCock? 😉

          • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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            was thinking the same thing lol

          • mckalk says:
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            Jason,

            I too surprisingly have the power of hiring and firing staff  and when an employee randomly shouts "luck o' the beavs", I promote them on the spot, so I suppose we balance each other out.

  • sandiegan says:
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    don't really follow baseball, so do you guys think the beavers can win the series?  i'm just sick of them always chocking to uo in every sport.

    • Jack says:
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      It's a homefield advantage the past couple years. Two years ago, I went to the series and watched us get killed by the home plate ump (in each game) calling inconsistent balls and strikes depending on the half of the inning. I don't expect different results this weekend.

      I do hope that our boys can overcome this obvious advantage. Defense will be key.

      • oneoldbeav says:
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        "Defense will be key"  Yup, and I'm thinking JRod's arm will be a huge factor.  

        The ucks  and Beavs are both successful stealing about 70% of the time.  BUT, the ucks are attempting nearly 40% more steals than the Beavs.  If JRod performs as he has so far, he'll be taking away one of the few offensive weapons possessed by the ucks.

        • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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          Duck football players are only successful stealing 25% of the time.

    • helmsley says:
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      Of course, sports jinxes aren't valid; the SI cover one, for example, or that Heisman trophy winners aren't usually successful in the NFL. Or that when I leave the room the Beavs make a huge play and that the Beav games I'm unable to listen to or see are the ones in which they pull a huge upset

      I'm somewhat fearful of this one: That a player returning to his home town will not perform well. Andrew Moore in Eugene is a bit spooky, especially if it's true that the Ducks didn't show any interest. I think it's a big deal.

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    Luck O the Beavs= Luck O the Gophs.

    2014 BIG football schedules released with the new divisions.

    Minnesota crossover games;  Mechicken and tOSU. Thank you Jim Delaney!

    Wisky's: Rutgers and Maryland. Iowa's: Maryland and Indiana.

    Bend over. 

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      How's Kill's health issues?  Is he going to continue to be the coach?

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        He is fine. It is more a PR problem than anything else. I have to say I really like the guy, he is a natural leader. 

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    I'm a fan of all of these Beaver Football videos and tweets they've been putting out throughout the offseason to keep fans up to speed on what the team is doing.

    Mike Riley ‏@Coach_Riley 1h

    Some really exciting stuff coming in from the recruiting trail today, love finding the diamonds in the rough! pic.twitter.com/2rInHuEoh8

     

    Mike Riley ‏@Coach_Riley 2h

    The grind has begun, Summer workouts are here, great work is needed for success in the season!

    #GoBeavs

     

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      Screw the diamond in the rough crap. Get some cut and polished diamonds like Brandin Cooks.

      #MR….get your ass to Jared.

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    Warrant for Chad Johnson's arrest….I'm thinking he should give all his money to OSU athletics right now!!!!

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    They don't get much bigger in the conference season then this weekend.  Tomorrow's game will be HUGE.  Winner will gain the momentum of the rest of the weekend.  This will be a good challenge for us, and if we can execute with precision. #Beavlieving  #hitthemwheretheyaintboys

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  • SalemBeav says:
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    The next video that loaded after Cooks video says OSU out of top 25 and USC @ 23.

    What are the chances for the Beavs to be top 10 this year if start unranked and don't play top 25 till game 7?



     

  • Dalai Lama says:
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    Just Buddha It

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