For the record: Dish’s game tracker feature is pure win sauce. Click game tracker, click your sport and all of the games that day come up on the right of your screen. Scroll thru them to check scores or click on one to schedule recording or watch. Nice.
First start by the SDSU QB. That worried me, we make first time starters look like all-conference QBs. He starts the game 3-3, a TD and a 308 QB rating.
This game has the feel of the WSU game a few years ago when they beat us. SDSU is inspired flying around, Beavs standing around with heir hands on their hips wondering why we are not winning…
I am officially on the fire Banker bandwagon. I don’t personally think Riley needs to go, but I’m afraid that is what it’s going to take to get rid of Banker.
Just finished the following letter to OSU that is going out in Monday’s mail:
To whom it may concern:
I have decided to suspend any further monetary donations in any form to my alma mater Oregon State University until Mark Banker, the defensive coordinator of the OSU football team, is eliminated from the coaching staff. In my opinion, he is the primary reason that the defensive performances of the football team are so dismal. It is truly an embarrassment to watch the defensive performances of this team. I see no other way to voice my displeasure than to pull my financial support for the school. Please feel free to pass this on to anyone who would be interested in reading this letter, such as Edward Ray, Bob DeCarolis, Mike Riley, etc.
In addition, I would like for Oregon State to remove me from any call lists so that the students who tirelessly perform the cold calls to the homes of alumni seeking monetary donations do not have to waste their time.
When (or if) Mr. Banker is removed from the Oregon State football staff, I will once again resume donating to Oregon State University.
Thank you for your time.
If Mannion is getting this kind of pressure from San Diego State what’s it going to be like when the Beavs play top tier defenses? On second thought don’t tell me.
They are rushing balls out almost every down… I’m not and offensive genius, but isn’t there a certain play type that takes advantage of overly aggressive defenses….
This is embarrassing like suddenly appearing naked in public an hour ago. As in, it’s still awkward and uncomfortable, yet you’ve had time to get used to it.
This looks exactly like the WSU game. Other team is playing chippy violent ball, our guys are laying down and taking it. Acting like they don’t care and they just want it to be over. This speaks to piss poor coaching. How the fuck can a ho hum guy like Riley motivate guys to play hard nosed violent football? I’m so fucking done with this team. I’m not spending another cent for anything OSU, until this entire staff is gone.
2011 2.0. It appears we are truly very bad. Instead of trying to keep our obviously pathetic D off the field by holding the ball by burning clock with some runs, Riley has gone into panic mode and will pass every play to compound the problem.
Well Oregon State fans, let us know when you have had enough. I hope Canzano writes an all out shit storm on Banker and the poor coaching that allow so many dumb false starts. Don’t come home Banker. Please go away!
Whew, I though Banker couldn’t stop an offense with a running QB. Relieved to know that he doesn’t discriminate, he can’t dial up a defense to stop ANY offense. Luckily we’ll get exactly NO halftime adjustments.
Oh, Mike, Mike, Mike, SDSU gives up yards on the ground and we run 3 (4?) running plays in the first half. Way to set Mannion up to fail. How about a fucking screen against the fucking blitz!
Riley at halftime was hilarious! Yeah 11 penalties is terrible, offensive line needs to have composure. Y6 runs in the first half? Yeah that is something we need to work on.
Hopeful halftime adjustments. See what Brown can do. More downfield throws to cooks and mulanney. Not sure anything can be done about the defense. Oline playing terrible.
Screen fucking pass against the blitz (the O line’s not blocking anyhow). An run the fucking ball, I can’t stand much more of this. Mannion looks like he’s been named the sacrificial lamb of this game. Maybe Riley’s just trying to toughen him up by having the shit beat out of him.
Don’t hold your breath on defensive adjustments. That ain’t gonna happen. Man, I wish Banker would prove me wrong, nothing would make me happier.
This is why I chose not to watch anymore….I’m locked up in a cabin (our anniversary), so we don’t have cable….thought I was gonna miss out on a sure win….so I thought I would check the Gamecast, and….MY GOD, WTF!!!!!! This team will set a record for futility at this rate……………..we continue to set the bar even lower!!!! (Deep breath)….K back to being with my sweethear, whispering sweet nothings, and legs up by the fireplace.
Just checking in for the halftime score. The stat sheet shows SDSU with 248 total yards, D on track to give up another 500 yard game. Their first start QB has a rating of 209. We have 7 yards rushing, are you kidding me? And we only have 4 attempted runs? (I’m assuming Mannion’s 2 were sacks or scrambles).
A buddy asked if I wanted to use his tickets for next weeks game. Are you kidding me?
No, I’d say it’s because the OSU administration (President) won’t apply pressure on bobbyd and booobyd won’t apply pressure on riley and riley isn’t about to fire banker.
Just like the American citizens, the OSU fans are screwed.
I turned it off. At least the dodgers are on instead. Out coached and outclassed by a fucking terrible mountain west conference team 3 weeks after losing to an FCS team again. I’ll tell you this teams identity after 4 games. They suck balls. We had 17 returning starters right? From a 9 win team. Fuck you Riley. And double fuck you banker!
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The Oregon State sideline is dead. No life, no energy … maybe that’s part of what’s wrong with this defense.
Looks to me the players have given up on this coaching staff. I would too if I had to keep trying Banker’s same failing ideas over and over again and kept getting put in bad position by poor coaching.
Keystone Cops… When you see this shit for sooo many years it’s amazing how the Riley Faithful can still think something good’s going to happen… No sense of urgency, energy on the field/sideline, technique…
just a question. Have you watched us try to throw a screen pass lately? It’s like the keystone cops, never works and usually results in a loss on the play or an incomplete pass
Yep. The offense will be out lollygagging back to the huddle, acting like it’s the first quarter. No hustle. No intensity. No killer in instinct. Just like their wussy ass bitch of a coach.
The D scheme is too complicated for the lower skill players to figure out. When you add poor/inability to tackle equals a defensive embarrassment. I’ve been chirping about this for years now.
I’ve just had it. Can’t watch this anymore – the stupid penalties in the first half, the fumbles in the second half, the defense not stopping the run, the Beavers making no effort whatsoever to run the football, and just the all around disaster of a game that this has been… at least this game isn’t in conference so we’re still set to win the Rose Bowl behind the defensive genius that is Mark Banker!
I officially just give up on this team. I feel bad for the players being led by such an epically mediocre coaching staff.
Everyone always comments about how Biley is such a nice guy. Well nice guys finish last in this sport.
I hope the Ucks actually do score triple digits on us. Maybe thats what it takes to shame a few more pollyannas to actually show some outrage at this piss poor program.
He is hideous. Every single week he has one massive fuckup, and I have yet to see him do anything that cannot be replaced by a walk-on. Do we just have no other DLinemen?
Read the puffers tomorrow, they’ll be babbling on about how the defense came through at the end, when it was their shit play that put their team behind in the first place.
I concur. They’ll completely ignore most of the first 3-1/2 where we played uninspired and looked like absolute shit against a winless mountain west conference trash opponent. But, great win guys. Seriously that was a team that FCS Eastern Illinois ass raped by 3 touchdowns in the same building.
Paul Salmonson
My beavs were so close to the jaws of defeat (from an average at best MWC team). But give coach Riley and his stuff 110% credit for making great adjustments going into the 4th qtr.
P.S. SDSU here is a free tip. Don’t play 3 quarters (might be able to get away w/ it during MWC play) of football you will lose just like tonight.
Already did. I pounded it as badly as our defense. And the great beaver was none too happy with my performance. Guess I need to consult banker and go back to the lab and work on fixing my little mistakes. Aw shit! Don’t think I can fix that little mistake. Damn you! Thanks Dad!!!!!
I wouldn’t say that SDSU deserved to win. They only had 82 yards total offense in the second half and could only manage to put up 6 points, 2 FG after the Beavs turned the ball over on 2 fumbles. And their inexperienced QB throws a pick six to put the Beavs on top.
I think the thing to say is….we deserved to lose. We should have blown out that team, and only win on a pick 6. This is the EASY PART OF THE SCHEDULE….!!
Winning this game may not call for bitching, but don’t you agree that it calls for improvement in areas which have been apparent here for months if not years?
Surprisingly he lead the team in tackles with 13. Now I saw several miss plays, but over a dozen tackles is big. I would have to rewatch the game to focus on his play, but there is no way I am watching anything but the good highlights.
Zimmerman made a couple mistakes. But I don’t think he’s as bad as everyone thinks. His job is to cover the deep side. The defender covering underneath is responsible when the WR turns under the S for an easy catch. On that cross to Lockett, Martin didn’t redirect him on the cut and took a really bad angle in pursuit. TZ was over him and had the angle to the side. Martin took an angle three yards behind TZ in the same direction instead of following the guy who just beat him underneath. What was he going to to? Was he going to wander toward the sideline on the angle TZ had covered and come in after the tackle to touch Lockett and get an assist? His not being there for the cut-back cost us a TD.
Btw… on the overhead view of that play they showed for the replay Alexander was coming from 30 yards behind the play and closing fast. He was still 15 yards behind Lockett when he scored. But he made up 10 yards while Lockett was pulling away from our DBs. Dude is really fast.
Martin was also the cover beaten on the other long passing TD. He was just flat out-run and lost two steps in 20 yards.
Looks like we have an angrybeav on the team:
“Ryan Murphy, a Beavers defensive back, was scowling as if someone had stolen his BMX bicycle. I told him to smile, he’d just won. He said, “We beat ourselves up. We gave up an 80-yard TD. We couldn’t tackle.” Yeah, but you won. “Yeah, OK. We won.” “
Meh, the Beavs get a rare comeback win against a team they were suppose to bury. I’m just glad I decided not to invest any emotional capital in this team. Would I be happy that they lost? No, but how could anybody be happy about the win, relieved is a better description. Even though the defense upped their game in the 2nd half when taken as a whole it just is one more performance that should lead to Banker’s firing.
Joe Avezzano cautioned against unearned hubris going into this game and it’s clear that was the right call.
Joe supposes that those who are bitching the most and kicking rocks all the way home are those who expected an easy win. That must suck. For you.
Having not assumed a win and being able to watch an exciting and unexpected last few minutes of the game, Joe was quite happy as was the team. If you had stopped watching or listening to the game in disgust, you missed out. Bummer.
Joe is not saying it was a good win or that there are not massive issues that need to be addressed. But if you can’t enjoy a win, especially if defeat seemed imminent, Joe wonders if you really are a Beaver fan.
But then again, Joe has never promoted himself as some kind of half-assed college football handicapper or master strategist. Just a fan like you. Well, some of you.
Now, bring on the pollyanna blah blah…Joe is sure it will be fresh and interesting.
Joe was never a college football fan, let alone a Beav. He took his paycheck and had to argue that it wasn’t theft.
A fan of football should hate this game. It was about as poorly played a game as there ever was, save for a couple players on each offense. A fan of “close games” and “exciting finishes” can’t even claim this game was good. It came down to who could make the worst mistake.
I feel like I just out-muscled a five year-old girl in order to win a cake walk.
Joe:
Joe pontificates that anyone who thinks shoving a preschooler out of the way was never a fan of cake.
Joe wishes to reply to his own email like the cool kids do simply to say that if a sloppy game is played and one feels a little sheepish about it appearing in the W column, it’s better than a loss. There are those on this blog who seem to be dissatisfied with anything other than a decisive “expected” win with all the stats lined up nicely to support that outcome. Ain’t gonna happen very often, so Joe concludes being pissed is a condition some people prefer.
As the execrable Al Davis was fond of saying, “Scoreboard, baby!”
SDSU would have been thrilled with a crappy win, to think the Beavs cannot enjoy same a little bit would be a shame.
If you didn’t jump out of your chair on the pick six at the end, you are not a Beaver fan. Pertinent to those who had stopped watching or listening to the game prior, Joe considers his case rested.
OK Jack. Joe will keep in mind that when you make a mistake or otherwise employ your Completion Backward Principle-oriented prose that nobody understands, you are simply “trolling.”
I thought we could win this game up to and beyond Cooks’ fumble. I was completely steamed that we never even tried to establish a run game. But SDSU is a really really bad team. And Mannion and our receivers are really good.
It’s a merry bonfire vs horrible teams. It will just be a bonfire at midseason unless something drastic changes (e.g. they get sick of being laughed at by telecasters and called the worst defense in d1).
And put Mageo in with the first team. That boy likes to stick his nose where it belongs.
Saw a lot of youngsters out there tonight. So I can’t rag on the staff for doing what they normally do in playing weaker players or holding on to redshirts for dear life. That was a nice change. Players actually got on the field and played.
Thought on Rodents vs Mountain West…..
Morning: Watched in person a B1G team soundly defeat SJSt by:
Physically dominating them with a running game that became more effective as the game
wore on. With the back up QB.
Not beating themselves by having stupid penalties.
Not turning the ball over.
Giving up a few big plays, but in general preventing sustained drives and making them one
dimensional on offense.
Evening: Watch a PAC 12 team steal a game they should have lost because of:
Unbelievable amount of stupid, lack of concentration penalties
Poor effort with tackling
One dimensional offense……no run game
Apparently leaving 9/10’s of the play book in Corvallis
Cavanough has to be held accountable for all the dumb ass penalties and the lack production running the ball. I think he gets a pass because he is the one coach who drops f bombs among all the Opie Taylor types. Cussing does not equal good coaching.
Play calling was questionable. Selling out on the pass rush and no screens or draws?
Giving up an opening series score = not ready to play.
Harlow looked good as did Mr. Magoo or whatever his name is.
I think the O-line eventually got it sorted out by the second half, evidenced by the drop off in the penalties. I’ll give them a pass with all the adjustments and shuffling they had to do. I’m expecting significant improvement when the injured guys get back in action, and my guess is the run game should improve.
Three of our five false starts were because the defense jumped into the neutral zone, and our guys reacted. I thought for sure it was going to be four out of six until they finally called the last one correctly. Clute’s was a legit call, and “everyone except #50” was really Mitchell’s fault for missing the count.
SDSU was also incorrectly called for a false start late in the game when one of our guys jumped off-side. I think it killed their offensive rhythm as much as it did ours with all the bad calls.
Totally agree on Cavanaugh; people get distracted by his gruff nature, foul language, and bear crawls and think that make him a great coach. 8/10 his lines act like they don’t want to run block, they clearly prefer pass blocking.
I think players stop listening during the constant yelling, cursing. OSU needs an upgrade there at O line coach.
Its a simple analysis…..when did we last have a decent run game? Its been years…..plenty of time to recruit blocking talent and or coach up what we have. This is a coaching problem, Riley!!
Mannion leading the nation in pass yards. 2nd place is nearly 300 yards back. not having a bye week yet helps, but still impressive when his conpletion % is top 10. cooks still leading receiver and still has most rec td’s despite zero yesterday. still tied for 6th in total scoring. Nelson tied for 1st ib INT’s.
What genius shown by Riley, toward the end of the game, pulled it out? But for the SDSU QB going moron and passing instead of calling a running play, there at the end….we lose.
Colorado is next and they’ve had 2 weeks off. Theyre also undefeated. The bye week helped SDSU come out ready yesterday. Beavs better be ready for Colorado’s best.
The hallmark of a championship team is playing like #$%#%& and still pulling out the win — OK it’s a joke…..LOL
It looks to me as if our best players on D are trying too hard….Nelson, Murphy, and Reynolds can’t trust their teammates to back them up…..I don’t blame them…..Zimmerman, Johnson, and Kell not pulling their weight, or worse yet….playing like they want to lose (dumb penalties, missed tackles) — if anything, it would be better to leave them off the field….at least the rest of the team would know what they are up against (8 vs. 11 is not a bad idea).
Would you feel any different about this team if they had stopped EWU’s final drive and won the game?
I wouldnt maybe because it is fresh but this defense is worse than either 2010 or 2011. I thought they had fixed secondaty issues last year and Perry was a god send but i was wrong. It was nice to see scott get time vs martin.
The Sports Illustrated Fansided Top 25 will likely be out tonight around 8pm or so. Can be seen at saturdayblitz.com . Oregon may pass Alabama. They were only 4 votes behind last week. The Pac-12 has been getting good national recognition as the clear 2nd best conference and we are playing statistically as good as the SEC or better. Always important for the Pac-12 to get two BCS teams in every year for the conference coffers.
In going over the previous discussion about winning or losing at half or at the end of the 3rd, this is the first time since 2007 (Cal: losing 14-13 at half, winning 20-14 end of 3, Riley screws up and loses the game) that we’ve come back from a halftime deficit to win. It’s also the first time since 2007 (CW: 21-21 at half, losing 28-21 at end of 3, winning in OT) that we’ve won after losing at the end of 3.
So if we’re keeping score for OC records:
Langsdorf is now 2-26 with a halftime deficit and 3-27 when losing after 3.
Chryst was 6-16 and 4-17 respectively.
91… Wheaton last year and James in 2009. Previously it was Hass in 2005 with 90 catches and a single season record of 1532 yards (2005 was only 11 games).
Cooks has 43 catches.
Career catches is Wheaton with 227.
Cooks has 141.
Season and career yards are Hass with the aforementioned 1532 and 3924.
Cooks is at 639 and 2181 respectively.
TDs in a season is 12 by Newson in 2002.
Cooks has 7.
Career TDs is 20 by Hass and Newson.
Cooks has 15.
QB/WR TD hook-ups for a career is Wilhelm/Thomas with 17. Then there’s DA/Newson with 15 and a two-way tie for third at 14 with DA/Hass and Mannion/Cooks.
Unless they get some semblance of a run game going, the only thing that for sure will that be broken is a body part on Mannion. Neck, knee, femur, etc. He took a lot of shots last night and was starting to throw off his back foot as the game wore on. He starts to get gun shy like last year and we are beyond screwed.
155 is it… Freddie Barnes, Bowling Green, 2009. One needs to average 12.0 catches per game over 13 games to beat it.
Most yards is 2050 by Trevor Inslee, Nevada, 1999. 158 yards per in 13 games is necessary. Cooks is at 159.8 now.
Most consecutive games with a catch is 54 by Bryan Anderson of Central Michigan. Cooks can tie this if we play in the Pac championship game this year and next year… and then beat it if we play in the BCS playoff and go to the BCS CG.
Watching Men’s Soccer live vs. San Jose St. Field looks awesome. Bright orange banners all around. Got the orange right unlike at Reser where it is too light. MAJOR upgrade!
Anyone have a stream for the Falcons VS Dolphins game? It is not on in my area apparently. Fox would rather show reruns of shitty TV shows than broadcast a game…
I humbly pray to ya….on my knees…..rending my orange sweatshirt ….tossing ashes on my head….
Please let all this poor defense, poor O-line play, poor run game, and maybe poor play calling….BE JUST A SMOKESCREEN…..cleverly designed to lure the likes of Stanford, Oregon, Washington, etal….into a false sense of CONFIDENCE! Where we suddenly show our A game, and BURY THEM….. Oh….Let it BE!
I was in the mountains most of weekend and missed all communication and news from Beaver/Brewer son at game. Score was about what I thought it would be, but the script was unusual. Still, a win is a win, and if Jack’s report of using a bunch of young guys is true, then this is a good sign. Make the players earn time and you will see things improve. Interesting side note on Cal. If you read the bio’s of their defensive coaches, they have almost no experience coaching defense. Their defense is on par with Beavers but Reynolds, Nelson and Murphy are much better than their guys.
Just re-watched the game after getting back from SD and I agree Mageo looked good out there. He flies around..not always in position but he has a nice burst and plays with passion.
Now if we can just get Nelson to “overtake” Martin
Nelson has made some great plays for us but his pass coverage is mediocre and his tackling has been fairly awful. His strength is definitely making plays on the ball. I think he’s got a lot of upside but I don’t see him as an obvious improvement over Martin at this point in time.
The weak link in the secondary and on the defense is Zimmerman and its not close…
Martin may be out with a shoulder injury for a while. Less him and more Scott or any other homo sapien would be a much better option. Gets beat every game. Nelson and RR at corner and Scott, Noland Lewis for Nickel? Hunt isn’t RS so throw him in there, too.
Beavs are 10.5 pt favorites this week in Vegas. Sound familiar?
Cal is 36.5 pt dogs to UO. I know Cal defense is bad, but wouldnt you expect them to put some points on the board? didnt they score 30 something vs tOSU? Does Oregon keep on the pedal till theyre up 40?
Rushing stats: 121st in the nation. I believe that is last. We’re number 1…… sort of.
55 yards per game!
Good news is the scoring defense is now up to 108th.
The negatives have been covered en masse, but I think there were a few positive takeaways on defense for us in this one.
-6 points allowed in the second half. We normally get killed in the second half by the other team’s adjustments on both sides of the ball, but that wasn’t the case this time.
-Actual penetration from the defensive line!
-No one can deny that Muema is a quality back. You could see that on a few of the runs where he had some room to move. We held him to under 3 ypc and held the whole SDSU team to around 3.5 on the day, not including sacks.
another big positive is that meritocracy is taking the place of seniority; first Boom hits the pine
and now Skotte. If could only have someone take Martin’s place the D could begin to get competitive the last 2/3’s of the season.
Beavs: #120 in penalties with a total of 34. Not the aggressive, stupid penalties of the DE era, just stupid penalties. Lots of Remmer’s penalties.
Surprisingly, Cats and Devs among the least penalized.
I think one thing Graham really deserves credit for (and has gotten quite a bit from Miller and Gemmell) is that he whipped ASU into shape. Under Erickson (like that OSU team you mentioned) they were one of the most undisciplined teams in the country on and off the field. It took 1 offseason for Graham to completely switch the culture. I though he was a total tool when ASU hired him, but have kind of softened my stance as he seems to care about discipline and class work more then many of his coaching peers do.
At least someone finally explains what they mean by “less” when they make dumb statements like this. Sure, he parrots the same tired “woe is recruiting” and “there are no other good coaches in college football” canards heard year after year… after year.
But he actually says our players suck, and we’re lucky to be 50/50 in games against other teams whose players and coaches also suck.
That’s nice.
Players suck=coaches are awesome=give them a raise
I’m actually not against Riley getting a raise on a holistic plane. I didn’t see it in the article because I just stopped reading what was a typical Duckfan blog blathering on about nothing on point. But Riley is not the worst coach in the Pac, and OSU is not the worst program in the Pac. Neither are either the best. History says they’re both slightly better than average under Riley (7-5 annually with a 5-4 conference record). And slightly better than average deserves slightly better than average pay. That’s not what Riley gets.
If we were to pay Riley slightly better than the Pac 12 average, then it would be fair. So in that regard, we’re getting more than we pay for.
Eggers: Mannion currently on historic passing tear:
“From Erik Wilhelm to Jonathan Smith to Derek Anderson to Matt Moore to Sean Canfield, nobody has played four straight games as well at quarterback as Mannion in guiding Oregon State to a 3-1 start.
The 6-5, 220-pound junior has completed 71.5 percent of his passes for 1,604 yards — an average of 401 per game — while throwing for 15 touchdowns with one interception. He has become the first QB in OSU history to top 350 yards passing in four successive games.”
He excludes Terry Baker because of difference in eras.
I was talking with a couple of friends about this. He’s starting to look (albeit against some not so great defenses) like the top pro-style QB in the country. If he keeps it up, a jump to the league at the end of the season would be a must do. The way they’ve been playing it looks like we’ll need Mannion all 4 quarters of every game, but it would be a good idea to get Vanderveen some reps instead of Vaz as we may need a new starter next year. Obviously Vaz has earned the time and do to loyalty Riley will give it to him if the situation arises, but it would be better for the future of the program to get another guy some seasoning.
His arm looks stronger this year and he’s making better decisions to get rid of the ball, even under pressure. Since Day 1, he’s been one of the most composed QB’s I’ve ever seen. His pocket presence is outstanding.
The only flaw I’m seeing right now is his accuracy. He’s missed on a few swings and screens this year, and there are certain throws where he doesn’t set up his receiver to run after the catch, usually because it’s thrown slightly behind.
If Anderson, Canfield and Moore can hang around in the league as long as they have, there’s no reason Mannion can’t do the same.
Agree that accuracy could always be better, but the guy is also #10 in completion % nationally, and everybody in the building knows he’s going to throw it. That will change for the worse when we face a good pass rush unfortunately.
The completion % and yards will go down if he’s having to make the dump off throw more often, but when pressured, he’s done an incredible job of avoiding situations where there’s even a remote possibility of throwing a pick. Definitely a big improvement over last year.
I don’t think it’s that his arm looks stronger. I think it’s that he takes a bunch off most of his throws except for those NFL throws he needs every now and then. He’ll toss a short dart over the middle, a lo to the flats, drop it in the bucket or ease it down the seam to a big TE. And then he’ll throw a deep out across the field that looks like it’s about to burst into flames.
He’s gone from a one speed arm with pedal brakes to a ten speed arm with handbrakes.
Agree that his touch has been better, but I remember the last few years thinking his arm wasn’t nearly as strong as it should be for as big as he is. It was actually a pretty common refrain on here.
Much lower completion % at 62.6 and he had Steven Jackson in the backfield. That played a role. Mannion has no running game and faces defenses blitzing him to death because of no threat of run and still is making all the big throws. He’s been incredible.
11 TDs and no picks through three games, then he threw a pick-six, a TD, a pick, two TDs and another pick-six… in game four. Game five was a single pick only. I didn’t look beyond that, but I’m assuming it was like watching the back half of Ryan Katz’s 2010 season… multiplied by three.
One player who should get major props is K.Cummings. He has been money this year and seemed like he was making every third down catch last Sat. night. Does not have an extra gear, but gets open and catches everything. Very solid. Angry owes him an apology LOL.
Couldn’t agree more about Mr. Third Down. Especially in the 4th, 4-5 big time catches to move the chains. Mannion also had some really nice throws to him, where he showed great anticipation.
Naji Patrick deserves a shout-out as well for what was likely a game-saving hustle play early in the third quarter. I know that drive was cut short with the sack and fumble turnover around the 40. But giving them the ball on the one or worse on a muffed punt would have been a dagger in the heart.
I’m a huge fan of Riley’s strategy so far this year. This first 4 games has been one of the greatest smoke screens I’ve seen to start a football seasons. He knew last year, when the team went 6-0 to start the season and ended up ranked in the top 10, Pac 12 opponents came in extra motivated because they wanted to beat a ranked team. It made for a rough 2nd half of the season.
This year, he was smart and let his team lose a meaningless non-con game, and allowed 3 more sub par teams hang with his team in an effort to avoid a top 25 ranking. Now that we’re getting into the rest of the Pac-12 schedule, it would be a miracle to crack the top 25 before the Stanford game, even if they win the next 3. Stanford will be looking ahead to Oregon, thinking they have a gimme vs the Beavs, when BLAMMO! The Beaver defense shows their face for the 1st game this season and punches Stanford in the mouth.
You all saw how Stanford played when they thought ASU was a top 25 team. Well that’s not gonna happen to our Beavs, who won’t even be receiving any votes by week 9.
After that, USC will be a win, followed by ASU. (both wannabe top 25 teams) The only 2 games I’m somewhat concerned with the rest of the way are UW and UO. Beavs may just end up being the Rose Bowl team this year if Oregon goes to the National Championship game. I love it when a plan comes together. Pure genius.
(please don’t share this post with the rest of the league)
YOU BLEW IT!!!!! You know how many opposing coaches read this blog to try and figure out what kinds of trick plays are being run at practice, and you still went ahead and posted what all of us die hards know to be Riley’s secret plan? Your new name going forward should be Ed Snowden instead of Beavblazer you traitor!!!
Riley was just on Sirius/XM “Coast to Coast” with Chris Childers and Dan Hawkins. Lots of talk about Cooks and Mannion, nothing new there. The only interesting thing he said is the exposure he thinks the program is getting with the pac 12 network and how it helps with recruiting outside the conference footprint. The best part was Childers’ disclosure that he sneaked up to Corvallis unannounced when he was on the national campus tour for S/XM. He stated that he saw all the fancy stuff in Eugene but he actually liked the scene in Corvallis better. Riley being on the show and Childers’ props are good for the program.
It’s too bad for Morovick. But do we really think Linsky can’t do the job? We might miss him on coverage. He was down there first quite a bit.
It looked to me like his 15 yard penalty on the punt was the result of him trying to stop before he got to the receiver, and he rolled an ankle into him. Was that where he got hurt?
Morovick was, indeed, leading the coverage several times. Riley said on the Joe Beaver show today that your observation that the injury came on that penalty play is correct.
I agree, Linsky is likely to be OK with his snaps and it will not hurt much if he isn’t as quick on coverage. Still, it will be nice to see him get a couple good snaps to begin his career.
Madden style: no punts. All onside kicks. More yards on offense, less given up on defense. I like it.
Didn’t someone a couple years back link an article about a super computer that proved probability wise it would help more then it would hurt to play aggressive like that. And the Kelly and Belachik were the only coaches who paid attention/studied it? OSU, we don’t always win but man were exciting!
Seriously, our offensive/defensive imbalance gives us a real opportunity to rethink 4th down and kickoff calls. What if we absolutely perfect the onside kick?
Not going to happen, but it’s nice to dream. What if we pulled that strategy out just in time for the CW? If we could develop a run game in the meantime, we could conceivably win that way. I for one would rather lose spectacularly than play straight up towards an inexorable loss. And could we keep the Ducks out of the end zone even once?
Hello pot, and your dumb ass late night howling at the moon shit. And no I am not challenging you to a day long debate which you feel your undefeated at.
I know what yu’re thinking right now FB fan. Yore thinking, “Man! Of all blankety-beep’s posts I have to attack, it was this one. And then I have to go type something that sounds like I’m wiping 8am stoopid-drunk spittle off my TI 99… 4A.”
Love it love it love it. Open competition, whoever plays the best gets to start. Thank god Riley hires decent position coaches(unlike his coordinators).
I suggest disallowing headphone use by the D until they play 4 quarters of game….oh but, wait, Riley’s too cool/fun now, what with the practice DJs, slip-n-slides, popsicles, water balloon fights…
I hear a lot about us getting the injury bug, comparing this year to least year, yes we definitely got it. But when you compare with other teams in the conference….Beavs seem a tad bit above average with number of injuries….seems like a number of other teams have about equal amount of players “out for the season”. Ironically the Ducks are the only team looking like close to 100%…..go figure, they are the last team needing to be fully healthy…..where’s Boise State on their schedule when you need them…?
A better reference would have been something grown-up, to make you sound like you were beyond middle school. Although, I doubt you’ve ever read any Milne anyway.
Perhaps something like, “I see Queeg is still looking for his strawberry thief,” would have stung a litle more than some cuddly children’s book character? Hell, “So, Ignatius is still leading the Crusade for Moorish Dignity,” would have been a cool slam. Even the rote “tilting at windmills” would have been better than what you scratched out.
But by all means, if you want to be mundane don’t let me stop you.
Go Beavs! It’ll be a Long day for Rocky
Go BEAVS!
Just curious, is Coach Long one of the coaches with the no punting philosophies?
For the record: Dish’s game tracker feature is pure win sauce. Click game tracker, click your sport and all of the games that day come up on the right of your screen. Scroll thru them to check scores or click on one to schedule recording or watch. Nice.
Rodent power!
#Gopherjuice
Defense still sucks.
we can’t stop a nosebleed.
Our only hope is for their offense to clot
Wow. Zimmerman still can’t tackle.
I noticed that.
Was just about to post the same thing. He looked like a matador. He is perfect in the osu flail backer scheme
One series on defense
One TD allowed
shocking :-|
Got an update on that stat?
Note to Zimmerman; this is tackle, not touch football, and it legal to actually hit and tackle players on the opposing team.
Man our D is terrible. Slow, out of position, poor tackling, everything. There is not thing they do well.
Sad but true.
First start by the SDSU QB. That worried me, we make first time starters look like all-conference QBs. He starts the game 3-3, a TD and a 308 QB rating.
Live stats pretty good. http://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?id=23173
Glad I have something better to do this afternoon. See you after the game.
Wow, lame ass block attempt Mullany.
Why don’t our coaches see this? This is all effort!
WR’s can’t block!
Early prediction, this will be yet another close offensive shoutout.
Team not ready to start the game……..again.
RUN some Please…
This game has the feel of the WSU game a few years ago when they beat us. SDSU is inspired flying around, Beavs standing around with heir hands on their hips wondering why we are not winning…
Is there a feed for this one?
Video stream (stream 20) thanks to BaileyS on Pure Orange.
http://nutjob.eu/schedule.html
Remmers!!!!
Lol, that defender on Hamlett was channeling his inner Zimmerman.
Definitely down before ball crossed over but Hamlett is a beast for getting that close
Drug that fucker 5 yards.
6’7″ 260# bitch!!!
SDSU punter is awful……
Thank god they didn’t call that hold on Mitchell. Mannion not as sharp today.
No need to recruit any more RB’s. We have eliminated the position from the offense.
Flag football is fun!
What the fuck kind of defense are we running?
Banker’s
Zimmerman is So. Fucking. Bad.
Jesus our DB’s have no fucking idea how to pursue, tackle, cover. ANYTHING!
Zimmerman is horrible, tell me why we haven’t recruited that position
Too busy recruiting DTs that don’t get qualified.
Nothing new about that.
Thank god we have an experienced secondary!
Zimmerman with the whiff again
That question assumes we’re running som kind of defense,
Zimmerman strikes again lol!!!!! Flail backer of the year!!!
He’s a safety. Converted from wide receiver. Needs to be converted to benchwarmer.
In this instance safety is for the opposing offense. As in, it’s safe to run through here, cuz this dildo can’t tackle shit.
Banker has got to go!!!!!
I just got home.
-2 yards rushing? I guess it’s safe to assume they didn’t try to have balance. I guess our identity is terrible defense and schoolyard offense.
Pretty much it.
6 of our rushing yards are a Sean Mannion scramble.
Dual threat LOL
Interesting….defense looks like they are really trying to keep this thing close!!! LOL
Admit it
In the deepest little corner of our hearts, we thought we’d be winning by now
Where is all the speed people said we had on defense? This has to be the slowest team speed I have seen?
Angry, Strickerz is reffing
i wish we could blame this on him!
God this D sucks!
Damn it Banker. You suck!!
This guy Lockett is faster than anyone on the Beavs D
How are our guys such shitty tacklers?
Wanker is their teacher. :(
Don’t they say practice makes perfect?
No, but practice makes permanent is still used.
Tackling is not family friendly, too violent.
Well we have not practiced it since the Spring, could that be a reason? Probably not our staff are such good teachers!
On a positive note, the sideline reporter is a hottie.
Mageo looks three times better than Skotte
Yes.
Agreed.
The first guy never makes the tackle for the beavers. When was the last time someone made a good open field solo tackle?
Maybe we can hire Manny Diaz LOL
Or Mack Brown.
I am officially on the fire Banker bandwagon. I don’t personally think Riley needs to go, but I’m afraid that is what it’s going to take to get rid of Banker.
Watching the Beavs D feels like hanging in Canyonlands National Park
Jesus H Christ how many stupid penalties are we going to get?
Stricherzzzzzzz!!! Man do we have a lot of equity in this guys training.
If Banker can’t get his head out of his ass and the offense keeps getting false starts we could lose this. If so Banker should be replaced mid week!
Banker needs to go, but I think this particular group of defenders have a pretty low football IQ also.
Can we try one run?
Yes.
Coaching side by side shot there. Long looks like he’s coaching, Riley looks defeated.
Agree
Just finished the following letter to OSU that is going out in Monday’s mail:
To whom it may concern:
I have decided to suspend any further monetary donations in any form to my alma mater Oregon State University until Mark Banker, the defensive coordinator of the OSU football team, is eliminated from the coaching staff. In my opinion, he is the primary reason that the defensive performances of the football team are so dismal. It is truly an embarrassment to watch the defensive performances of this team. I see no other way to voice my displeasure than to pull my financial support for the school. Please feel free to pass this on to anyone who would be interested in reading this letter, such as Edward Ray, Bob DeCarolis, Mike Riley, etc.
In addition, I would like for Oregon State to remove me from any call lists so that the students who tirelessly perform the cold calls to the homes of alumni seeking monetary donations do not have to waste their time.
When (or if) Mr. Banker is removed from the Oregon State football staff, I will once again resume donating to Oregon State University.
Thank you for your time.
Can I copy and paste this and send it?
Please do.
Middle screens will pop
This is truly a team effort in shitty football. Can we hire their D coordinator?
If Mannion is getting this kind of pressure from San Diego State what’s it going to be like when the Beavs play top tier defenses? On second thought don’t tell me.
Hence considering vaz?
They are rushing balls out almost every down… I’m not and offensive genius, but isn’t there a certain play type that takes advantage of overly aggressive defenses….
Draw, shovel pass, etc. Is Danny calling plays again?
deargodno
This is embarrassing like suddenly appearing naked in public an hour ago. As in, it’s still awkward and uncomfortable, yet you’ve had time to get used to it.
This is just bad football.. I’m glad I haven’t spent much time watching this previous offseason/season. Go Beavs and all, but this is getting ugly
How is every guy on their team faster than the fastest guy on ours?
I was just going to say I am stunned by the lack of speed on defense.
Throwback question – is Zimmerman worse than suasei tuimanessi??
Penalties! Stupid plays! Poor coaching!
Walk on QB …beating the D
Murphy should have been ejected for the punch.
We may not be big….but we’re slow!
Ranker’s seat heatin’ up.
Stupid and slow
No Heart on D…
Did you see that 2nd TD for Aztecs?
There were 3 efensive players on the guy and THEY ALL QUIT. Just straight up gave up on the play.
Do the Beavs hold the record for most telecasters laughing at them?
Granted, they want SDSU to win to pad Ohio State strength of schedule, but yes. Yes, yes, yes
Every hit on d is high. Giving up 5 extra yards every play. Chrichton is paying well. That’s it
Soooo embrassed right now, glad I am watching alone in my dark basement, turn the lights off.
Watching beavers in the basement with the lights off?
Hmmmm
This looks exactly like the WSU game. Other team is playing chippy violent ball, our guys are laying down and taking it. Acting like they don’t care and they just want it to be over. This speaks to piss poor coaching. How the fuck can a ho hum guy like Riley motivate guys to play hard nosed violent football? I’m so fucking done with this team. I’m not spending another cent for anything OSU, until this entire staff is gone.
At least there’s basketball to look forward to?
nvm
Don’t drive. You are drunk LOL.
2011 2.0. It appears we are truly very bad. Instead of trying to keep our obviously pathetic D off the field by holding the ball by burning clock with some runs, Riley has gone into panic mode and will pass every play to compound the problem.
Why run?can’t convert a 4th and 1….
Not sure we could convert 1st and 1 rushing
Grab and restrict?
5 fucking false start penalties???? In the first half????? I thought remmers graduated already????
Another moniker of a poorly coached team
No shit. This is pathetic.
Was that really our 3rd designed run of the half?
Yes.
It’s a miracle. A tackle!
First sack. Reynolds.
Reynolds sack was nice, but stop the stupid strut you’re 10 points behind a Mountain West team and a QB making his first start.
Well Oregon State fans, let us know when you have had enough. I hope Canzano writes an all out shit storm on Banker and the poor coaching that allow so many dumb false starts. Don’t come home Banker. Please go away!
Whew, I though Banker couldn’t stop an offense with a running QB. Relieved to know that he doesn’t discriminate, he can’t dial up a defense to stop ANY offense. Luckily we’ll get exactly NO halftime adjustments.
Oh, Mike, Mike, Mike, SDSU gives up yards on the ground and we run 3 (4?) running plays in the first half. Way to set Mannion up to fail. How about a fucking screen against the fucking blitz!
The team will “find it’s identity” at halftime. Did Riley’s daughter get knocked up again or something?
fuck riley and fuck his daughter. im gonna have to deal with this shit from my co-workers.
sorry. Jovan Stevenson already has the “Riley’s daughter” market cornered
Mike Riley is a sheepish 2 ball bitch pussy.
20 seconds and two time outs and he downs the ball and mopes into the locker room. Cuz you wouldn’t want to try to score or anything.
Riley at halftime was hilarious! Yeah 11 penalties is terrible, offensive line needs to have composure. Y6 runs in the first half? Yeah that is something we need to work on.
Hahahahaha your pathetic!
Texas is ahead of KSU 10-0. When a coach actually feels some pressure or is held accountable they tend to step up.
Hopeful halftime adjustments. See what Brown can do. More downfield throws to cooks and mulanney. Not sure anything can be done about the defense. Oline playing terrible.
Sdsu is flying around, maybe they can catch them over pursuing
Halftime adjustments? Homie don’t do that. Just need to “execute.” Silly boy!
Execute banker
He’s guilty of murdering our season :p
LOL
Screen fucking pass against the blitz (the O line’s not blocking anyhow). An run the fucking ball, I can’t stand much more of this. Mannion looks like he’s been named the sacrificial lamb of this game. Maybe Riley’s just trying to toughen him up by having the shit beat out of him.
Don’t hold your breath on defensive adjustments. That ain’t gonna happen. Man, I wish Banker would prove me wrong, nothing would make me happier.
Jesus, fuck almightly, I’m taking a Xanax.
Run the ball? How? We can’t run block for shit, why on Earth would we run it MORE?
The play calling is shit.
This is why I chose not to watch anymore….I’m locked up in a cabin (our anniversary), so we don’t have cable….thought I was gonna miss out on a sure win….so I thought I would check the Gamecast, and….MY GOD, WTF!!!!!! This team will set a record for futility at this rate……………..we continue to set the bar even lower!!!! (Deep breath)….K back to being with my sweethear, whispering sweet nothings, and legs up by the fireplace.
At least one Beaver is scoring!
I bet you’ll have more fun watching beavers there than we are here wink wink
Just checking in for the halftime score. The stat sheet shows SDSU with 248 total yards, D on track to give up another 500 yard game. Their first start QB has a rating of 209. We have 7 yards rushing, are you kidding me? And we only have 4 attempted runs? (I’m assuming Mannion’s 2 were sacks or scrambles).
A buddy asked if I wanted to use his tickets for next weeks game. Are you kidding me?
C’mon Beavs, this is our Holiday Bowl!
Banker isn’t going anywhere no matter how poor he does.
because you’re dumb enough to keep sending a BASF check.
No, I’d say it’s because the OSU administration (President) won’t apply pressure on bobbyd and booobyd won’t apply pressure on riley and riley isn’t about to fire banker.
Just like the American citizens, the OSU fans are screwed.
The American citizens are screwed?
Serious question:
When was the last time we came back and won after a ten-point halftime deficit?
Today!
EMBARRASSING!!!!!!!!
Looks like “the win one for the Gipper” speech at halftime did the trick. That was an awesome first series.
Guess they don’t like the gipper
Can’t blame em….Notre Dame and all.
Yay the team is on the verge of giving up!!! Nice tackling
We have had three plays without a penalty!
Why does every team OSU plays always look like they’ve got a Heisman trophy candidate?
Mark Banker.
I turned it off. At least the dodgers are on instead. Out coached and outclassed by a fucking terrible mountain west conference team 3 weeks after losing to an FCS team again. I’ll tell you this teams identity after 4 games. They suck balls. We had 17 returning starters right? From a 9 win team. Fuck you Riley. And double fuck you banker!
Mother f ‘er! What else can go wrong?
You can tell how well coached our team is, by how we minimize the number of mental mistakes.
Serious Question:
Has this team held a practice since the Alamo Bowl?
Here is some hard hitting investagative journalism
?@LindsayRae19
The Oregon State sideline is dead. No life, no energy … maybe that’s part of what’s wrong with this defense.
Looks to me the players have given up on this coaching staff. I would too if I had to keep trying Banker’s same failing ideas over and over again and kept getting put in bad position by poor coaching.
I hope we can secure all of our commits so far, with this poor performance, oh wait we are their only offers
Has the Beav defense caused a fumble this year?
Caused me to throw shit at the tv. Does that count?
If you bobbled the shit and dropped some on your couch, then yes it counts.
Cue a stupid penalty.
Also looks like Skotte has been replaced by Mageo, not that it’s made any difference
I like what I’ve seen from him, but it’s going to take more than an average MLB to fix this D.
He has actually played the best of all the Beavers tonight. I wish we had 10 more of his effort on defense.
HEY GUYS!
WE’RE FIRST PLACE IN THE PAC-12 ROSE BOWL HERE WE COME BABYYYYY!!!
(Prepare to hear a lot along these lines this week)
Fly sweep? Shovel pass?
Atleast big picture OSU Athletics are I’m good hands with Bobby DeCarolis at the helm.
BDC and Banker couldn’t be forced out soon enough. If Riley won’t cut Banker then clean house. I think Jon Embree could beat this team.
:-)
Is Riley trying to get Mannion hurt?
Que gum throwing from Riley.
How in the hell did these shits lose by 21 points to a FCS school? They have not missed a tackle all night.
In an ironic reversal, these “shits” are wiping US up
Beavs are shits also
Cooks is pussyfooting.
Keystone Cops… When you see this shit for sooo many years it’s amazing how the Riley Faithful can still think something good’s going to happen… No sense of urgency, energy on the field/sideline, technique…
Where’s the fucking screen passes?
please. for the love of god no. Our screen passing ability is only surpassed by our poor tackling
The defense brings the house 478 times in a row you let em come and throw a screen.
just a question. Have you watched us try to throw a screen pass lately? It’s like the keystone cops, never works and usually results in a loss on the play or an incomplete pass
Held to 0 points in the 2nd and 3rd Qs? What happened to our offense?
No Storm?
Looks like the start of another 28-losing seasons streak.
PAC season will be UGLY!
If president ray gave a shit about OSU athletics he’d fire boooobyd’s ass!!!!
He’s to busy trying to get a job at Ohio State.
The Ohio State LOL.
It’s funny, we beat a mountain west team last week and guys think we are capable of winning Pac games.
Does the scoreboard at Autzen have the ability to register triple digits? If not, Phil may consider an upgrade prior to the CW.
I’ll hold up a sign.
I think I’m going to stroke out. They called Wynn’s name!
Ray’s watching his favorite team and most likely isn’t in SD… We need P. Risser.
Too funny Goph.
Just lost.
Yep. The offense will be out lollygagging back to the huddle, acting like it’s the first quarter. No hustle. No intensity. No killer in instinct. Just like their wussy ass bitch of a coach.
Bad turnover, but that stupid play has not worked all night
The D scheme is too complicated for the lower skill players to figure out. When you add poor/inability to tackle equals a defensive embarrassment. I’ve been chirping about this for years now.
maybe they should stop recruiting stupid, inner city kids that are dumb as a post?
I’ve just had it. Can’t watch this anymore – the stupid penalties in the first half, the fumbles in the second half, the defense not stopping the run, the Beavers making no effort whatsoever to run the football, and just the all around disaster of a game that this has been… at least this game isn’t in conference so we’re still set to win the Rose Bowl behind the defensive genius that is Mark Banker!
Bolden is not ready to return kicks yet
Bolden has not impressed me, after hearing how great he looked.
Yup. Looks pretty pedestrian. Sounded like we were getting a cross of James Rodgers and Cooks.
his play looks more like a cross between Rachel Leigh Cook and Mister Rodgers
I officially just give up on this team. I feel bad for the players being led by such an epically mediocre coaching staff.
Everyone always comments about how Biley is such a nice guy. Well nice guys finish last in this sport.
I hope the Ucks actually do score triple digits on us. Maybe thats what it takes to shame a few more pollyannas to actually show some outrage at this piss poor program.
do we even know how to hurry up?
We have a ballgame!
Kinda…
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!
Aztecs throw the ball with 2:30 left, up 2, around their own 20.
PICK SIX BY NELSON!!!!!
Too much time left.
WOW what just happened?
Don’t celebrate yet guys, this team still has a shitty defense.
gave em too much time?
Throwing on like 2nd down, up 2, on your own 20, is absolutely stupid. Wow. I’m just baffled.
We may lose the next like 7 straight games, but tonight, we may actually win!
First down, 15 yard sack on a completely untouched blitz. WOW!
This poor QB.
KELL! FUCK YOU!!!
He had a horrible play last week, and he does again this week, roughing the passer on 3rd and long. Just amazing.
I hate this defense so much.
Devon Kell seems to F up every weekend.
He is hideous. Every single week he has one massive fuckup, and I have yet to see him do anything that cannot be replaced by a walk-on. Do we just have no other DLinemen?
He is to busy trying to fuck every girl who walks into Impulse to care!
AND ANOTHER PICK!!!
Just wow, nobody wants to win this.
I feel so bad for this QB; young, and I think they said a walk on, and completely choked this game away. Rough game.
Luck o’ the Beavs, in reverse.
lol
Ranker has someone on his side. God the conference schedule is going to be brutal.
wow. I can hear it now.
Mark Banker’s Defense wins the game! Hail the hero!
/facepalm
/angryface
it does feel alot better to win than to lose. But Im afraid this is actually bad for our program in the long term.
Nice strawman. Literally nobody will say that. Nice try.
Bullshit.
Read the puffers tomorrow, they’ll be babbling on about how the defense came through at the end, when it was their shit play that put their team behind in the first place.
Apologist dickhole.
I concur. They’ll completely ignore most of the first 3-1/2 where we played uninspired and looked like absolute shit against a winless mountain west conference trash opponent. But, great win guys. Seriously that was a team that FCS Eastern Illinois ass raped by 3 touchdowns in the same building.
Guys, you realize we are all fans of the same team, right?
Where? I’d love to read it. Unfortunately for you, that only exists in your mind.
This is pretty close, from espn chat:
Paul Salmonson
My beavs were so close to the jaws of defeat (from an average at best MWC team). But give coach Riley and his stuff 110% credit for making great adjustments going into the 4th qtr.
P.S. SDSU here is a free tip. Don’t play 3 quarters (might be able to get away w/ it during MWC play) of football you will lose just like tonight.
P.S.S. GO beavs!
1 hour ago
“Banker and company were outstanding…when they HAD to be”- Rick Neuheisel, Pac12 network.
Just heard weasel say this.
So fuck your face.
hahaha, that’s your beaver ‘pollyanna’? Hahahahaha!!
he was such a great coach. Wonder why no one hasn’t hired him yet
Game over. That is how you are winless. Don’t know what to say. I am amazed they came back and won, but still have a bad taste in my mouth.
We need to thank the Great Beaver in the sky.
Already did. I pounded it as badly as our defense. And the great beaver was none too happy with my performance. Guess I need to consult banker and go back to the lab and work on fixing my little mistakes. Aw shit! Don’t think I can fix that little mistake. Damn you! Thanks Dad!!!!!
Wow… we have to have the ugliest wins out of any 3-1 in the FBS. Can’t believe we got handed that one.
This has to be the most disgusted I’ve felt after win. This makes me sick. Next week may be the only conference game we win.
Utah doesn’t count?
Utah is decent, and we semi earned that one. SDSU is bad, and gifted us this game.
Meh, they’re mountain west trash
They lost, we did not win the game.
I feel bad for SDSU, they deserved that win.
Whoops, I accidentally stumbled onto an Aztec board! Wait, what?
Who are you people?
I wouldn’t say that SDSU deserved to win. They only had 82 yards total offense in the second half and could only manage to put up 6 points, 2 FG after the Beavs turned the ball over on 2 fumbles. And their inexperienced QB throws a pick six to put the Beavs on top.
I think the thing to say is….we deserved to lose. We should have blown out that team, and only win on a pick 6. This is the EASY PART OF THE SCHEDULE….!!
Worst 3-1 team in the nation?
Yup
Imagine if we were 4-0.
We’d be a top 15 team…
Like Michigan!
A walk-on QB playing his first game, or is it his first season, damned near beats the Beavs.
Oh yeah, something to celebrate.
Winning a game is now something to bitch about. Sorry, my mistake…it’s been that way for years.
Winning this game may not call for bitching, but don’t you agree that it calls for improvement in areas which have been apparent here for months if not years?
Bob De Carolis ?@bvrboss
Once again, WOW! These guys never give up! @OSUBeaversFB #GoBeavs
three more wins to another year extension, lol
#Oh shit, we have buy some fast food burgers for these clowns.
maybe he was shaking so bad from the Parkinson’s and was unable to change the channel until 3 minutes were left in the game?
Freudian slip! Analyst on BTN just calls Wisconsin running backs, running blacks LOL.
if the shoe fits
Put it in your mouth?
That’s what he said.
Freudian sock?
NINE hip hip’s…………..you can’t make this stuff up.
OK, the players learned to stay in it till the end, but, NINE…………hard to believe!
I think we found our MLB today. Mageo was third on the team in tackles.
Now all we need is a new coordinator.
I liked Mageo today.
So why the fuck was he behind Skotte and Audiss on the depth chart?
Same mystery as the boom/mullaney experience I guess…
I hate to pick on specific players, but Zimmerman should not be playing. Is there not someone better that the Beavs could put out there?
I’d be willing to bet a paraplegic could cover better than Zimmerman
My fuckin grandma tackles better than Zimmerman.
And she’s been dead for like 10 years.
and its more than just Zimmerman. Skotte should not be out there either. It’s like playing 8 or nine vs 11 when those 2 are on the field.
Surprisingly he lead the team in tackles with 13. Now I saw several miss plays, but over a dozen tackles is big. I would have to rewatch the game to focus on his play, but there is no way I am watching anything but the good highlights.
I’m surprised he even made one tackle as much as I saw him flail on several opportunities.
Tackles per game is a less significant stat than flails per touchdown.
Zimmerman leads the NCAA in this category.
Zimmerman made a couple mistakes. But I don’t think he’s as bad as everyone thinks. His job is to cover the deep side. The defender covering underneath is responsible when the WR turns under the S for an easy catch. On that cross to Lockett, Martin didn’t redirect him on the cut and took a really bad angle in pursuit. TZ was over him and had the angle to the side. Martin took an angle three yards behind TZ in the same direction instead of following the guy who just beat him underneath. What was he going to to? Was he going to wander toward the sideline on the angle TZ had covered and come in after the tackle to touch Lockett and get an assist? His not being there for the cut-back cost us a TD.
Btw… on the overhead view of that play they showed for the replay Alexander was coming from 30 yards behind the play and closing fast. He was still 15 yards behind Lockett when he scored. But he made up 10 yards while Lockett was pulling away from our DBs. Dude is really fast.
Martin was also the cover beaten on the other long passing TD. He was just flat out-run and lost two steps in 20 yards.
Looks like we have an angrybeav on the team:
“Ryan Murphy, a Beavers defensive back, was scowling as if someone had stolen his BMX bicycle. I told him to smile, he’d just won. He said, “We beat ourselves up. We gave up an 80-yard TD. We couldn’t tackle.” Yeah, but you won. “Yeah, OK. We won.” “
Good to see. Wynn last week,Murphy this week. Is this “finding their identity”?
I guess not wanting to suck is an identity.
BYU holding Utah to 20 late in the 4th quarter.
You know, like any team with a defense should.
Still losing,but their offense sucks. So I guess there’s that.
Utah gets a late pick and looks like they will hold off BYU in the battle of the mormons
but but but, they ran roughshod over Texas 2 weeks ago. Ya know, running the ball. Against Texas. It’s how they beat them. Yeah, you get it
That one’s going to burn for years.
At home?
So…now, winning vs Utah is worse than losing to Utah. Got it.
what the fuck are you talking about?
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Meh, the Beavs get a rare comeback win against a team they were suppose to bury. I’m just glad I decided not to invest any emotional capital in this team. Would I be happy that they lost? No, but how could anybody be happy about the win, relieved is a better description. Even though the defense upped their game in the 2nd half when taken as a whole it just is one more performance that should lead to Banker’s firing.
Joe Avezzano cautioned against unearned hubris going into this game and it’s clear that was the right call.
Joe supposes that those who are bitching the most and kicking rocks all the way home are those who expected an easy win. That must suck. For you.
Having not assumed a win and being able to watch an exciting and unexpected last few minutes of the game, Joe was quite happy as was the team. If you had stopped watching or listening to the game in disgust, you missed out. Bummer.
Joe is not saying it was a good win or that there are not massive issues that need to be addressed. But if you can’t enjoy a win, especially if defeat seemed imminent, Joe wonders if you really are a Beaver fan.
But then again, Joe has never promoted himself as some kind of half-assed college football handicapper or master strategist. Just a fan like you. Well, some of you.
Now, bring on the pollyanna blah blah…Joe is sure it will be fresh and interesting.
Joe was never a college football fan, let alone a Beav. He took his paycheck and had to argue that it wasn’t theft.
A fan of football should hate this game. It was about as poorly played a game as there ever was, save for a couple players on each offense. A fan of “close games” and “exciting finishes” can’t even claim this game was good. It came down to who could make the worst mistake.
I feel like I just out-muscled a five year-old girl in order to win a cake walk.
Joe:
Joe pontificates that anyone who thinks shoving a preschooler out of the way was never a fan of cake.
Well, that hurts. In Joe’s defense, those cheerleaders weren’t just going to mack on themselves.
Jack, your last sentence about the preschooler almost makes sense but appears to be missing some words. Joe suggests you revise and resubmit.
Joe wishes to reply to his own email like the cool kids do simply to say that if a sloppy game is played and one feels a little sheepish about it appearing in the W column, it’s better than a loss. There are those on this blog who seem to be dissatisfied with anything other than a decisive “expected” win with all the stats lined up nicely to support that outcome. Ain’t gonna happen very often, so Joe concludes being pissed is a condition some people prefer.
As the execrable Al Davis was fond of saying, “Scoreboard, baby!”
SDSU would have been thrilled with a crappy win, to think the Beavs cannot enjoy same a little bit would be a shame.
If you didn’t jump out of your chair on the pick six at the end, you are not a Beaver fan. Pertinent to those who had stopped watching or listening to the game prior, Joe considers his case rested.
You’re the first one here to bite on troll bait in quite some time. Congrats.
Troll bait? Is that what that poorly constructed sentence was?
Huh.
Jack lures the pick out of the nits with grammer baits quite often. This is as old a method as the internet itself.
If you didn’t understand the bait once the line was cut, then you were never a fan of the internet.
So much for “rested” eh?
OK Jack. Joe will keep in mind that when you make a mistake or otherwise employ your Completion Backward Principle-oriented prose that nobody understands, you are simply “trolling.”
Got it.
Rested now?
Or does Jack have to read more whiff magic fr ready cut loose?
Your learning.
I… um… I agree with Canzano.
http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2013/09/canzano_3.html#incart_flyout_sports
I thought we could win this game up to and beyond Cooks’ fumble. I was completely steamed that we never even tried to establish a run game. But SDSU is a really really bad team. And Mannion and our receivers are really good.
Normal had to break loose eventually.
It’s a merry bonfire vs horrible teams. It will just be a bonfire at midseason unless something drastic changes (e.g. they get sick of being laughed at by telecasters and called the worst defense in d1).
it will be a dumpster fire after we get boat raced in the civil war again
That article has to be a Canzano record for least attacks on the author in the comment section.
haha. very true
And put Mageo in with the first team. That boy likes to stick his nose where it belongs.
Saw a lot of youngsters out there tonight. So I can’t rag on the staff for doing what they normally do in playing weaker players or holding on to redshirts for dear life. That was a nice change. Players actually got on the field and played.
One might be glad that we won……if this were the tough part of the schedule. But its the EASY part……and we barely scrape out a win.
HORRIBLE…HORRIBLE….HORRIBLE….
No defense, no run game.. ten penalties by halftime. a team that clearly has norrible coaching…
I dont want to think about what a good team will do to us…..maybe we can be notable this season as the first team ever to give up a hundred points….?
Thought on Rodents vs Mountain West…..
Morning: Watched in person a B1G team soundly defeat SJSt by:
Physically dominating them with a running game that became more effective as the game
wore on. With the back up QB.
Not beating themselves by having stupid penalties.
Not turning the ball over.
Giving up a few big plays, but in general preventing sustained drives and making them one
dimensional on offense.
Evening: Watch a PAC 12 team steal a game they should have lost because of:
Unbelievable amount of stupid, lack of concentration penalties
Poor effort with tackling
One dimensional offense……no run game
Apparently leaving 9/10’s of the play book in Corvallis
Cavanough has to be held accountable for all the dumb ass penalties and the lack production running the ball. I think he gets a pass because he is the one coach who drops f bombs among all the Opie Taylor types. Cussing does not equal good coaching.
Play calling was questionable. Selling out on the pass rush and no screens or draws?
Giving up an opening series score = not ready to play.
Harlow looked good as did Mr. Magoo or whatever his name is.
I think the O-line eventually got it sorted out by the second half, evidenced by the drop off in the penalties. I’ll give them a pass with all the adjustments and shuffling they had to do. I’m expecting significant improvement when the injured guys get back in action, and my guess is the run game should improve.
Three of our five false starts were because the defense jumped into the neutral zone, and our guys reacted. I thought for sure it was going to be four out of six until they finally called the last one correctly. Clute’s was a legit call, and “everyone except #50” was really Mitchell’s fault for missing the count.
SDSU was also incorrectly called for a false start late in the game when one of our guys jumped off-side. I think it killed their offensive rhythm as much as it did ours with all the bad calls.
Totally agree on Cavanaugh; people get distracted by his gruff nature, foul language, and bear crawls and think that make him a great coach. 8/10 his lines act like they don’t want to run block, they clearly prefer pass blocking.
I think players stop listening during the constant yelling, cursing. OSU needs an upgrade there at O line coach.
Its a simple analysis…..when did we last have a decent run game? Its been years…..plenty of time to recruit blocking talent and or coach up what we have. This is a coaching problem, Riley!!
I agree!
Is there such a thing as an embarrassing win? JB
Yes, but since you specialized in embarrassing losses, it is a foreign concept. Go Beavs!
Ow…zinger!! Better than your usual low hanging fruit pun
Mannion leading the nation in pass yards. 2nd place is nearly 300 yards back. not having a bye week yet helps, but still impressive when his conpletion % is top 10. cooks still leading receiver and still has most rec td’s despite zero yesterday. still tied for 6th in total scoring. Nelson tied for 1st ib INT’s.
Riley leads nation in pulling capital “W’s” out of his ass
I think he tore his sphincter on last nights game.
What genius shown by Riley, toward the end of the game, pulled it out? But for the SDSU QB going moron and passing instead of calling a running play, there at the end….we lose.
I think he pulls them out of Banker’s ass doesn’t he?
It doesnt bear thinking about how bad our record would be if our QB were having an off year. Mannion is the only thing saving us
Colorado is next and they’ve had 2 weeks off. Theyre also undefeated. The bye week helped SDSU come out ready yesterday. Beavs better be ready for Colorado’s best.
Whatever Colorado’s best is, ….we’ll make em look BETTER….
The hallmark of a championship team is playing like #$%#%& and still pulling out the win — OK it’s a joke…..LOL
It looks to me as if our best players on D are trying too hard….Nelson, Murphy, and Reynolds can’t trust their teammates to back them up…..I don’t blame them…..Zimmerman, Johnson, and Kell not pulling their weight, or worse yet….playing like they want to lose (dumb penalties, missed tackles) — if anything, it would be better to leave them off the field….at least the rest of the team would know what they are up against (8 vs. 11 is not a bad idea).
Would you feel any different about this team if they had stopped EWU’s final drive and won the game?
I wouldnt maybe because it is fresh but this defense is worse than either 2010 or 2011. I thought they had fixed secondaty issues last year and Perry was a god send but i was wrong. It was nice to see scott get time vs martin.
Beaver Byte Top 25
1. Oregon
2. Stanford
3. Alabama
4. Ohio St.
5. UCLA
6. Clemson
7. Louisville
8. LSU
9. Florida St.
10. Washington
11. Miami
12. Oklahoma St.
13. Texas A&M
14. Georgia
15. South Carolina
16. Oklahoma
17. Arizona
18. Baylor
19. Ole Miss
20. Florida
21. Northwestern
22. Michigan
23. Wisconsin
24. Texas Tech
25. Fresno St.
How much does the Beaverbyte poll weigh in the BCS formula?
As much as any precooked canned meat product produced in Hormel, Minnesota, does.
Hey, Span is a delicacy in Hawaii.
Produced in Austin, MN BTW.
Oh sure.
And I suppose they don’t make Winnebagos in Winnebago either?
The Sports Illustrated Fansided Top 25 will likely be out tonight around 8pm or so. Can be seen at saturdayblitz.com . Oregon may pass Alabama. They were only 4 votes behind last week. The Pac-12 has been getting good national recognition as the clear 2nd best conference and we are playing statistically as good as the SEC or better. Always important for the Pac-12 to get two BCS teams in every year for the conference coffers.
In going over the previous discussion about winning or losing at half or at the end of the 3rd, this is the first time since 2007 (Cal: losing 14-13 at half, winning 20-14 end of 3, Riley screws up and loses the game) that we’ve come back from a halftime deficit to win. It’s also the first time since 2007 (CW: 21-21 at half, losing 28-21 at end of 3, winning in OT) that we’ve won after losing at the end of 3.
So if we’re keeping score for OC records:
Langsdorf is now 2-26 with a halftime deficit and 3-27 when losing after 3.
Chryst was 6-16 and 4-17 respectively.
what’s the record for catches in a season?
cooks could threaten it at this rate.
91… Wheaton last year and James in 2009. Previously it was Hass in 2005 with 90 catches and a single season record of 1532 yards (2005 was only 11 games).
Cooks has 43 catches.
Career catches is Wheaton with 227.
Cooks has 141.
Season and career yards are Hass with the aforementioned 1532 and 3924.
Cooks is at 639 and 2181 respectively.
TDs in a season is 12 by Newson in 2002.
Cooks has 7.
Career TDs is 20 by Hass and Newson.
Cooks has 15.
QB/WR TD hook-ups for a career is Wilhelm/Thomas with 17. Then there’s DA/Newson with 15 and a two-way tie for third at 14 with DA/Hass and Mannion/Cooks.
He might break some records.
Season: 91 – James Rodgers 2009 & Markus Wheaton 2012
Career: 227 – Markus Wheaton
Cooks has 43 through 4 games and 141 for his career. Both records are well within his reach.
http://www.osubeavers.com/pdf9/2458990.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=30800
I was actually wondering the NCAA record.
It’s probably something absurd like 200
Unless they get some semblance of a run game going, the only thing that for sure will that be broken is a body part on Mannion. Neck, knee, femur, etc. He took a lot of shots last night and was starting to throw off his back foot as the game wore on. He starts to get gun shy like last year and we are beyond screwed.
I found 155.
155 is it… Freddie Barnes, Bowling Green, 2009. One needs to average 12.0 catches per game over 13 games to beat it.
Most yards is 2050 by Trevor Inslee, Nevada, 1999. 158 yards per in 13 games is necessary. Cooks is at 159.8 now.
Most consecutive games with a catch is 54 by Bryan Anderson of Central Michigan. Cooks can tie this if we play in the Pac championship game this year and next year… and then beat it if we play in the BCS playoff and go to the BCS CG.
Watching Men’s Soccer live vs. San Jose St. Field looks awesome. Bright orange banners all around. Got the orange right unlike at Reser where it is too light. MAJOR upgrade!
no one cares about soccer
Anyone have a stream for the Falcons VS Dolphins game? It is not on in my area apparently. Fox would rather show reruns of shitty TV shows than broadcast a game…
My comment on this season so far… hey at least their uniforms are nice.
lmao yeah they’re looking good.
White yes, black ones are hideous.
OH, GREAT BEAVER IN THE SKY!!!
I humbly pray to ya….on my knees…..rending my orange sweatshirt ….tossing ashes on my head….
Please let all this poor defense, poor O-line play, poor run game, and maybe poor play calling….BE JUST A SMOKESCREEN…..cleverly designed to lure the likes of Stanford, Oregon, Washington, etal….into a false sense of CONFIDENCE! Where we suddenly show our A game, and BURY THEM….. Oh….Let it BE!
I think the BITS is pissed that they nuked Benny’s rebirth and is punishing us for the Sabre Tooth Rivercat.
That would be The GBITS!!!
Sorry! GBITS.
Man, how can folks give a negative rating to PRAYING TO THE GREAT BEAV….
…..damn athiests!!
Go ahead and damn us.
Booga booga to you too.
I was in the mountains most of weekend and missed all communication and news from Beaver/Brewer son at game. Score was about what I thought it would be, but the script was unusual. Still, a win is a win, and if Jack’s report of using a bunch of young guys is true, then this is a good sign. Make the players earn time and you will see things improve. Interesting side note on Cal. If you read the bio’s of their defensive coaches, they have almost no experience coaching defense. Their defense is on par with Beavers but Reynolds, Nelson and Murphy are much better than their guys.
After conf call, Lindsay tweets: Justin Addie likely to practice Monday, AND Rommel Mageo likely the starting MLB from here on out. Sounds good to me!
Just re-watched the game after getting back from SD and I agree Mageo looked good out there. He flies around..not always in position but he has a nice burst and plays with passion.
Now if we can just get Nelson to “overtake” Martin
Nelson has made some great plays for us but his pass coverage is mediocre and his tackling has been fairly awful. His strength is definitely making plays on the ball. I think he’s got a lot of upside but I don’t see him as an obvious improvement over Martin at this point in time.
The weak link in the secondary and on the defense is Zimmerman and its not close…
He is just never in position to make plays on the ball. Nelson and Scott need to he ahead of him.
read that wrong, thought you were talking about Martin making plays on the ball.
I think he should maybe be called “Hotdog.” He likes to play the ball, but the rest of the details seem to be of less interest to him.
I didn’t watch the game, how did Larry Scott do? He was supposed to have had a good fall camp and supposed to have some speed.
I was hoping for less Martin, more Scott and Dashon Hunt.
Martin may be out with a shoulder injury for a while. Less him and more Scott or any other homo sapien would be a much better option. Gets beat every game. Nelson and RR at corner and Scott, Noland Lewis for Nickel? Hunt isn’t RS so throw him in there, too.
Sports Illustrated Fansided Top 25: Pac-12 takes #1 from SEC
http://saturdayblitz.com/2013/09/22/fansided-top-25-week-oregon-new-1/
Beavs are 10.5 pt favorites this week in Vegas. Sound familiar?
Cal is 36.5 pt dogs to UO. I know Cal defense is bad, but wouldnt you expect them to put some points on the board? didnt they score 30 something vs tOSU? Does Oregon keep on the pedal till theyre up 40?
Rushing stats: 121st in the nation. I believe that is last. We’re number 1…… sort of.
55 yards per game!
Good news is the scoring defense is now up to 108th.
Third from last, but not good.
Finally…..in reading this blog, a real CHUCKLE! Thanks, goeff, you da rodent!
Up to 108 in scoring D….yep, really clampin down….lol.
The negatives have been covered en masse, but I think there were a few positive takeaways on defense for us in this one.
-6 points allowed in the second half. We normally get killed in the second half by the other team’s adjustments on both sides of the ball, but that wasn’t the case this time.
-Actual penetration from the defensive line!
-No one can deny that Muema is a quality back. You could see that on a few of the runs where he had some room to move. We held him to under 3 ypc and held the whole SDSU team to around 3.5 on the day, not including sacks.
another big positive is that meritocracy is taking the place of seniority; first Boom hits the pine
and now Skotte. If could only have someone take Martin’s place the D could begin to get competitive the last 2/3’s of the season.
Beavs: #120 in penalties with a total of 34. Not the aggressive, stupid penalties of the DE era, just stupid penalties. Lots of Remmer’s penalties.
Surprisingly, Cats and Devs among the least penalized.
Since when is acting like a chump in the endzone aggressive?
That’s not entirely fair. They also excessively celebrated every time they hit someone hard.
Haha. You are right.
When it takes more than a flinch to draw a flag?
I think one thing Graham really deserves credit for (and has gotten quite a bit from Miller and Gemmell) is that he whipped ASU into shape. Under Erickson (like that OSU team you mentioned) they were one of the most undisciplined teams in the country on and off the field. It took 1 offseason for Graham to completely switch the culture. I though he was a total tool when ASU hired him, but have kind of softened my stance as he seems to care about discipline and class work more then many of his coaching peers do.
Jaynes: Riley does more with less, he and staff deserve raise, not termination:
http://www.csnnw.com/blog/dwight/fire-osu-coaching-staff-my-goodness-give-them-raise
At least someone finally explains what they mean by “less” when they make dumb statements like this. Sure, he parrots the same tired “woe is recruiting” and “there are no other good coaches in college football” canards heard year after year… after year.
But he actually says our players suck, and we’re lucky to be 50/50 in games against other teams whose players and coaches also suck.
That’s nice.
Players suck=coaches are awesome=give them a raise
I’m actually not against Riley getting a raise on a holistic plane. I didn’t see it in the article because I just stopped reading what was a typical Duckfan blog blathering on about nothing on point. But Riley is not the worst coach in the Pac, and OSU is not the worst program in the Pac. Neither are either the best. History says they’re both slightly better than average under Riley (7-5 annually with a 5-4 conference record). And slightly better than average deserves slightly better than average pay. That’s not what Riley gets.
If we were to pay Riley slightly better than the Pac 12 average, then it would be fair. So in that regard, we’re getting more than we pay for.
Eggers: Mannion currently on historic passing tear:
“From Erik Wilhelm to Jonathan Smith to Derek Anderson to Matt Moore to Sean Canfield, nobody has played four straight games as well at quarterback as Mannion in guiding Oregon State to a 3-1 start.
The 6-5, 220-pound junior has completed 71.5 percent of his passes for 1,604 yards — an average of 401 per game — while throwing for 15 touchdowns with one interception. He has become the first QB in OSU history to top 350 yards passing in four successive games.”
He excludes Terry Baker because of difference in eras.
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/195407-osu-notes-riley-on-mannion-beaver-run-game-and-defense-buffaloes-and-more
I was talking with a couple of friends about this. He’s starting to look (albeit against some not so great defenses) like the top pro-style QB in the country. If he keeps it up, a jump to the league at the end of the season would be a must do. The way they’ve been playing it looks like we’ll need Mannion all 4 quarters of every game, but it would be a good idea to get Vanderveen some reps instead of Vaz as we may need a new starter next year. Obviously Vaz has earned the time and do to loyalty Riley will give it to him if the situation arises, but it would be better for the future of the program to get another guy some seasoning.
His arm looks stronger this year and he’s making better decisions to get rid of the ball, even under pressure. Since Day 1, he’s been one of the most composed QB’s I’ve ever seen. His pocket presence is outstanding.
The only flaw I’m seeing right now is his accuracy. He’s missed on a few swings and screens this year, and there are certain throws where he doesn’t set up his receiver to run after the catch, usually because it’s thrown slightly behind.
If Anderson, Canfield and Moore can hang around in the league as long as they have, there’s no reason Mannion can’t do the same.
Agree that accuracy could always be better, but the guy is also #10 in completion % nationally, and everybody in the building knows he’s going to throw it. That will change for the worse when we face a good pass rush unfortunately.
The completion % and yards will go down if he’s having to make the dump off throw more often, but when pressured, he’s done an incredible job of avoiding situations where there’s even a remote possibility of throwing a pick. Definitely a big improvement over last year.
I don’t think it’s that his arm looks stronger. I think it’s that he takes a bunch off most of his throws except for those NFL throws he needs every now and then. He’ll toss a short dart over the middle, a lo to the flats, drop it in the bucket or ease it down the seam to a big TE. And then he’ll throw a deep out across the field that looks like it’s about to burst into flames.
He’s gone from a one speed arm with pedal brakes to a ten speed arm with handbrakes.
Agree that his touch has been better, but I remember the last few years thinking his arm wasn’t nearly as strong as it should be for as big as he is. It was actually a pretty common refrain on here.
I believe at the start of 2002 Derek Anderson also had 15 TDs and 1 pick after 4 games.
Much lower completion % at 62.6 and he had Steven Jackson in the backfield. That played a role. Mannion has no running game and faces defenses blitzing him to death because of no threat of run and still is making all the big throws. He’s been incredible.
11 TDs and no picks through three games, then he threw a pick-six, a TD, a pick, two TDs and another pick-six… in game four. Game five was a single pick only. I didn’t look beyond that, but I’m assuming it was like watching the back half of Ryan Katz’s 2010 season… multiplied by three.
Does anyone have a link or know where you can rewatch the game online?
The answer is ONSIDE KICK on every kickoff.
– would cut in half the total yards given up by the D
– reduces stupid roughing the passer fouls
May not change the game outcome, but wouldn’t help the opponent’s stats.
One player who should get major props is K.Cummings. He has been money this year and seemed like he was making every third down catch last Sat. night. Does not have an extra gear, but gets open and catches everything. Very solid. Angry owes him an apology LOL.
Couldn’t agree more about Mr. Third Down. Especially in the 4th, 4-5 big time catches to move the chains. Mannion also had some really nice throws to him, where he showed great anticipation.
Naji Patrick deserves a shout-out as well for what was likely a game-saving hustle play early in the third quarter. I know that drive was cut short with the sack and fumble turnover around the 40. But giving them the ball on the one or worse on a muffed punt would have been a dagger in the heart.
I’m a huge fan of Riley’s strategy so far this year. This first 4 games has been one of the greatest smoke screens I’ve seen to start a football seasons. He knew last year, when the team went 6-0 to start the season and ended up ranked in the top 10, Pac 12 opponents came in extra motivated because they wanted to beat a ranked team. It made for a rough 2nd half of the season.
This year, he was smart and let his team lose a meaningless non-con game, and allowed 3 more sub par teams hang with his team in an effort to avoid a top 25 ranking. Now that we’re getting into the rest of the Pac-12 schedule, it would be a miracle to crack the top 25 before the Stanford game, even if they win the next 3. Stanford will be looking ahead to Oregon, thinking they have a gimme vs the Beavs, when BLAMMO! The Beaver defense shows their face for the 1st game this season and punches Stanford in the mouth.
You all saw how Stanford played when they thought ASU was a top 25 team. Well that’s not gonna happen to our Beavs, who won’t even be receiving any votes by week 9.
After that, USC will be a win, followed by ASU. (both wannabe top 25 teams) The only 2 games I’m somewhat concerned with the rest of the way are UW and UO. Beavs may just end up being the Rose Bowl team this year if Oregon goes to the National Championship game. I love it when a plan comes together. Pure genius.
(please don’t share this post with the rest of the league)
YOU BLEW IT!!!!! You know how many opposing coaches read this blog to try and figure out what kinds of trick plays are being run at practice, and you still went ahead and posted what all of us die hards know to be Riley’s secret plan? Your new name going forward should be Ed Snowden instead of Beavblazer you traitor!!!
Let’s all take a knee and pray to THE GBITS!!!
Oh hallowed, great, big Beaver with nashing teeth…..
Gnashing
Noshing?
Well, it’s been fun guys. Thinking of taking a little vacation to Russia. Go Beavs…..
That you, Hannibal? Always on the jazz!
Riley was just on Sirius/XM “Coast to Coast” with Chris Childers and Dan Hawkins. Lots of talk about Cooks and Mannion, nothing new there. The only interesting thing he said is the exposure he thinks the program is getting with the pac 12 network and how it helps with recruiting outside the conference footprint. The best part was Childers’ disclosure that he sneaked up to Corvallis unannounced when he was on the national campus tour for S/XM. He stated that he saw all the fancy stuff in Eugene but he actually liked the scene in Corvallis better. Riley being on the show and Childers’ props are good for the program.
Check out @LindsayRae19’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/LindsayRae19/status/382285242519654400
The injuries continue to mount.
Freshman walkon Harrison Linsky is listed as backup
Ruh-row.
Is it too late to get Angry’s Richie Harrington back?
Or as Brad would say, good grief. Who says that besides Charlie Brown? Losing the long snapper should at least be a ‘Oh shit”.
It’s too bad for Morovick. But do we really think Linsky can’t do the job? We might miss him on coverage. He was down there first quite a bit.
It looked to me like his 15 yard penalty on the punt was the result of him trying to stop before he got to the receiver, and he rolled an ankle into him. Was that where he got hurt?
Morovick was, indeed, leading the coverage several times. Riley said on the Joe Beaver show today that your observation that the injury came on that penalty play is correct.
I agree, Linsky is likely to be OK with his snaps and it will not hurt much if he isn’t as quick on coverage. Still, it will be nice to see him get a couple good snaps to begin his career.
Screw puting. Just play 4 downs. More stats for Mannion/cooks.
Madden style: no punts. All onside kicks. More yards on offense, less given up on defense. I like it.
Didn’t someone a couple years back link an article about a super computer that proved probability wise it would help more then it would hurt to play aggressive like that. And the Kelly and Belachik were the only coaches who paid attention/studied it? OSU, we don’t always win but man were exciting!
Seriously, our offensive/defensive imbalance gives us a real opportunity to rethink 4th down and kickoff calls. What if we absolutely perfect the onside kick?
Not going to happen, but it’s nice to dream. What if we pulled that strategy out just in time for the CW? If we could develop a run game in the meantime, we could conceivably win that way. I for one would rather lose spectacularly than play straight up towards an inexorable loss. And could we keep the Ducks out of the end zone even once?
Dude….. “perfect” something?? LOL
But I do like looking for some sneaky strategy, tactics, whatever.
I think it’s the verb perfect. Purr-FECKT
Oh brother!
On a beaver blog… the last two subjects have involved a long snapper and happy kitty noises.
Hello pot, and your dumb ass late night howling at the moon shit. And no I am not challenging you to a day long debate which you feel your undefeated at.
Your funny.
Do you mouth the words as you type them… very slowly?
I’m assuming “pot” refers to pot/kettle. Could you please expound that? It really makes no sense at all.
I know what yu’re thinking right now FB fan. Yore thinking, “Man! Of all blankety-beep’s posts I have to attack, it was this one. And then I have to go type something that sounds like I’m wiping 8am stoopid-drunk spittle off my TI 99… 4A.”
Our last long snapper had long hair. Hoping the next one is more clean shaven. A little fuzz would be ok.
Maybe we Beavers shouldn’t call the position long snapper? I vote for “special teams center.”
http://memeorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/I-See-What-You-Did-There-Cat.jpg
Steven Nelson named defensive player of the week for the PAC 12.
http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2013/09/oregon_state_football_mageo_mo.html
Love it love it love it. Open competition, whoever plays the best gets to start. Thank god Riley hires decent position coaches(unlike his coordinators).
Is anything more important to these players than headphones?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKiPYZuI-rs&list=TLS60YR5sbuHQ
I suggest disallowing headphone use by the D until they play 4 quarters of game….oh but, wait, Riley’s too cool/fun now, what with the practice DJs, slip-n-slides, popsicles, water balloon fights…
Grampy, is that you?
Yes, it is…I thought of something similar myself when I typed that bit.
I hear a lot about us getting the injury bug, comparing this year to least year, yes we definitely got it. But when you compare with other teams in the conference….Beavs seem a tad bit above average with number of injuries….seems like a number of other teams have about equal amount of players “out for the season”. Ironically the Ducks are the only team looking like close to 100%…..go figure, they are the last team needing to be fully healthy…..where’s Boise State on their schedule when you need them…?
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=usatoday&page=cfoot/injuries/InjuryConf.aspx?conf=Pacific 12
…..PEDs anybody?
Lends credence to my theory that Nike makes good footware for the ucks and sabotages shoes for everyone else.
Eeyore site in full swing
Oh bother!
You’re stretching your literary limits there son. Don’t go for the Cummings reference. It’s gonna strain you.
Son, your comments are noted and taken for what they are worth
A better reference would have been something grown-up, to make you sound like you were beyond middle school. Although, I doubt you’ve ever read any Milne anyway.
Perhaps something like, “I see Queeg is still looking for his strawberry thief,” would have stung a litle more than some cuddly children’s book character? Hell, “So, Ignatius is still leading the Crusade for Moorish Dignity,” would have been a cool slam. Even the rote “tilting at windmills” would have been better than what you scratched out.
But by all means, if you want to be mundane don’t let me stop you.
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pasado para este información ! Gracias!