29.Oct.2013 Could Fans End the Duck’s Dynasty?

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Per this letter from Canzano. Anyone know who the player is?

One thing we know is that life moves in cycles. The Ducks will be bad one day; the only question is how it happens. I assumed scandal, but maybe the players wake up and realize they’re playing for ESPN/Disney + shitty fans, and they just stop signing LOIs…

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  • Bill says:
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    I do like how few accept his story and just start attacking him. Also if he’s not a former star player, then I’m sure his credibility as a former player will be attacked too.

    Based on the clues, it’s a player who finished in the last three years and likely not in the NFL. Spartacus started at the beginning of 2010 so the title game vs Auburn is the earliest game he would have been in. Can probably assume he didn’t play in last year’s bowl game too.

    It would be funny if it was Darren Thomas or Masoli and fans didn’t recognize them.

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      I’m assuming the former player is white, because how many former players from the state are black? I can’t think of any. Plus, would a young black man ever write

      “I accepted his offer with enthusiasm.”?

      Might as well have said “I was eating a turkey sandwich on wheat with extra mayo while watching UCLA take on UO”

      That narrows the list of candidates down quite a bit.

      • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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        I read nowhere in the article where it stated he was from other than he was a former UO football player. I’m not sure it was Thomas due to how well (ok that’s a stretch) the letter was written. I’ve heard Darron Thomas speak and he could barely string a few sentences together. To quote Hollywood Henderson on Terry Bradshaw, I doubt Thomas could spell cat if you spotted him the “c” and the “t”. But at the same time it could be. We never saw the original letter and it could have been written in crayon and looked like it was written by a dyslexic with down syndrome. I mean that’s pretty much the bare minimum requirements to be a football player in Eugene anymore so it’s really hard to say. Hell, for all we know it could have been a coke fueled rant written by Colt Lyerla. Just sayin

        • angry angry says:
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          Whoever it is, they could have had someone write it, or at least edit it.

          • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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            Hard to believe this is a real former player. Writes white, but uses black references. I really doubt a former player is going to ask one of his buddies to re-write his letter to Canzano ripping Duck fans.
            Reminds me of the Dave Chappelle “Lil Jon” impersonation, where he keeps saying “Wh-at?…..Wh-at?…..Okay.yyyyy!……Yay-ahhhh!!……Then breaks down for a few seconds to speak fluent english, only to return to “Yay-ahhhh!!!!”

            I’ve got it, it’s Kenyon Barner! and he had his hottie girlfriend from Portland write it for him!

          • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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            Seems to me Canzano might have anticipated folks analysing this and figuring out who it is, and did a little editing to help disguise it. Or maybe he just made it up.

            If asshole fans were the demise of a football program, seems like there wouldnt be many programs now remaining.

          • whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            oh I believe it. Cause that shit goes on at the landfill 5-7 Saturdays every fall.

          • slamadam says:
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            beavblazer- just as a FYI it is possible for a black person to speak/write eloquently. Welcome to 2013.

          • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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            You think that letter to Canzano was eloquent?

            I’m just saying only a white guy would say something as dorky as “I accepted his offer with enthusiasm”. (or perhaps Carlton from Fresh Prince)

            BTW, 2013 wasn’t the cutoff when black people started speaking eloquently.

          • whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Microsoft_357afd_1176283.jpg

        • carltogr carltogr says:
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          LOL!!!

      • Bill says:
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        He doesn’t say whether he lives in state or not but now that Thomas is part of the portland afl team, he is in the area and that’s one of the reasons I guessed him.

        And because he said “They claimed that I didn’t know, that they had coached college football, and that I had no idea what I was talking about. Ironic to say the least, considering my background and what you know of me, what my old teammates know of me, and what my old coaches know of me.”

        That made me think it was a QB and not a defensive player.

        And if it is him, it make the duck fans look even worse. Couldn’t recognize a guy who started in the biggest game in the program’s history.

  • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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    I posted this in an earlier thread but glad you started a new topic on it as I believe it merits further discussion. Only two places I will never ever go again are Autzen and Bulldog stadiums due to boorish and downright violent fan behavior. And it’s only getting worse at the landfill.

  • Whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Also good players will never stop going to Oregon as long as they are given better preferential treatment than they would receive at other schools.

  • wannabeav says:
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    first, let me say I love the new “fired up” Angry; several posts per week. Now to the topic: I made a habit out of hanging out with fans and other conference schools and posed the question: “other than, perhaps, your rival, which team or fans of a team do you dislike the most?” The Ducks are unanimous winners in this poll. Everyone hates them, either at their place, or when they visit other venues. Now, in my own experience, I’ve never been hassled in Autzen, though I know a lot of Coug, Husky, and Beaver fans who say they have been. but in their demeanor a lot of Duck fans (probably band wagon types from the last 15 years or so) remind me of folks you encounter in the public lots (as opposed to campus tailgaters) at SC.

  • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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    It’s interesting how the players shelter themselves from the fan’s comments and behaviors, since we know this as typical Duck fan behavior and they have this reputation across the country, but here this guy’s really shocked by it. I remember when I lived in Eugene, and they lost a couple games with Harrington. The fans turned on him and wanted to run him out of town. I knew then I didn’t want any part of it.

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    OT: Cummings out.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2013/10/oregon_state_football_wide_rec.html#incart_river_default

    Maybe this is just news to me.

    • osbeavs says:
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      I saw this and thought that it was interesting that he hurt it sometime in the first half. It might explain some of the drops, including the drop to end the game (though a difficult and contested pass in traffic). Makes you wonder if the knowledge of his injury would’ve changed play calling and Mannion’s decisions.

      • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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        Excactly what I was thinking. Playing through the pain most likely cost us a chance in OT.

  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    OT — who do you think should start in KC’s place at WR: redshirt freshman Malik Gilmore or senior Micah Hatfield?

    My vote would be Gilmore. As a RS Freshman, Gilmore has an upside (where senior Hatfield has none). Gilmore is 6’3″ and about 215 lbs, while Hatfield is only 6’1″ and about 180 lbs. Also, as best I recall, Hatfield has not performed well this season in the few chances he has gotten.

    Personally, I’d like to see Gilmore get a shot. He doesn’t know the playbook as well as Hatfield, and Gilmore would probably make more mistakes. But I also think Gilmore has a chance to make more big plays for OSU this year (as well as in future years, when Hatfield won’t be playing football at all).

    • ObjCritic says:
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      Entering the toughest part of the schedule (stanford included too) and Hatfirld lacks DI hands, body, speed; but he’s the known quantity so he”ll play.

      I prefer Gilmore w/Bolden getting spot duty: use their physical abilities against some of the best Pac 12 teams that are is upcoming…Hatfield offers no match up advantages.

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        this will be an interesting case study, because given the way this staff “rolls,” it will be Hatfield, based more on seniority than anything.

      • ObjCritic says:
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        typed on a phone…

      • BeavInEugene says:
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        You want to put Bolden in the slot? Why? IMO he’s not big enough to play the slot. I’d prefer Gilmore due to his size and speed.

    • Greatwhitehunter says:
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      OH-BOOOOM!

    • whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      will it matter?

  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    Pretty sure the coaches read this site, and pick whoever we dont like….

  • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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    Link to Beavs hoops exhibition game. You know you want it:

    http://pac-12.com/videos/oregon-state-university

  • RxDeala says:
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    The letter sounds like he’s talking about idiotic fans similar to AngryBeavs… plus/minus the drunks!

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    So I feel the need to toot my own horn. 2 summers ago, when Thomas Tyner was scheduled to be in the stands on an unofficial visit to an OSU game (it was Sac State), I sent an email to a bunch of people in the athletic department with a suggestion for how to use the jumbo tron to capture his attention. My idea was to create a highlight video featuring clips of Simonton, followed by clips of Jackson, followed by Bernard and lastly Quizz. Then, the video would cut to the words “Who’s Next?” on the screen. I never got a reply.
    Well, did anybody at the Stanford game notice they played a video that fit that exact description? As well as 2 other videos for the WR’s and TE’s? I almost couldnt believe my idea made it onto the screen in a game setting. I’ll have to look later tonight if those vids are on their YouTube site.

    TOOT TOOT!!!!!

  • mckalk says:
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    The letter makes sense to me, I watched about three quarters of the Duck/Bruin game closely and was struck by the sense of entitlement that the Duck fans seem to have.developed. Lots of inappropriate (and probably drunken) outrage even when it was obvious the officials made a correct call.

    Mariota fumbled on a great hit by I believe Barr and the boos rained down. I couldn’t figure out if the idiots were booing Mariota for fumbling or some imagined penalty on Barr even though it was very clear he made a great and clean football play. It was like the fans could not fathom a negative play against the Ducks.

    You could also see the frustration when the cameras panned the crowed when the score was still 14-14. It will be interesting when the 10-3, 9-4 seasons happen again. I believe that Chip Kelly was “lighting in a bottle” and once his players cycle through, we will see a slight drop off. The fans won’t be able to handle it.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      I think what could offset the loss of Kelly’s recruiting ability is the current and expanding media tie ins (nike, ESPN) and the football center, which is likely to overwhelm the average 18-year old football player.

      S-I says on its Mariotta cover Oregon is “coming to take over America (they’re gunning for you SEC…” but Larry Scott has eyes on expansion to China (marketing, games over seas), as does Nike, who seeks $37B and expects increased profits to come largely from expansion of marketing/sales in China.

      It’s difficult for me to believe that University of Nike won’t benefit from these dual expansion efforts and continue to have more exposure and resources than most. Would you be surprised if UO is one of the first teams to play in China, replete with a special Nike uniform that “honors” the Chinese in some way? This will continue to feed the recruiting machine UO is becoming.

      UO will have a down cycle, but they’re not just a Pac-12 team anymore, they’re part of a larger entertainment media. And like pro teams, their fan base becomes a increasingly composed of belligerent fans who live vicariously through a football program with which they’ve had no historical relationship as university alumni or family members.

      Cynical conspiracist?

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        Not cynical or paranoid, OC; this is precisely where things are headed. The sad truth is that Oregon has achieved “escape velocity” with propulsion coming in the combined form of the ESPN?Nike nexus wound together with brilliant marketing. You can count on UO being in that first football game in China. OSU is in a tough spot now, which makes every lost opportunity (viz Stanford game) or gaffe (Sac State E. WA) all the more damaging.

      • Jack says:
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        I won’t speak to the conspiracy part, but you have it completely wrong if you think the sport Scott uses to expand into China would be American football. The sport does not translate well and is not accessible to the masses. It doesn’t even crack the top two dozen sports in that country. Scott knows this because he was a commissioner of an international sports organization.

        • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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          Watch out China, here comes the Beaver ping-pong team!

        • ObjCritic says:
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          Interesting point. I hadn’t thought about Scott’s background (e.g. tennis). Still, NFL continues to market the other way (UK) suggesting some think american football will translate, and Scott has talked about staging football games in China. You have said football is simple otherwise it wouldn’t appeal to the masses. Maybe you’re right the cultural differences are too great for American football to fill Chinese stadiums, tvs, and Scott’s real interest is in marketing other pac-12 sports there.

          And I’m not trying to change my argument to stay right (if I even am right about the “conspiracy” part), but I still think with a con-current nike expsanion in China, UO stands to benefit more than other Pac schools from more exposure and more resources being directed to it via Knight, other. But I’m not even sure how Knight’s financial relationship with Nike works as former CEO; I’m assuming as the company benefits, he benefits, and subsequently UO football benefits.

          OSU is working on revamping the VFC, figuring out how to win a big game, and I’m willing to bet Knight/UO are already working what’s next after the football operations center.

          • Jack says:
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            You might want to rethink Nike doing anything in China. They are probably more worried about Li-Ning taking market share in North America. In four years, they more than tripled their revenues to become a billion dollar corporation. While most of it has been in China, they’re coming to the US with nothing to lose and money in their pocket.

            And I’m not saying American football won’t be introduced over there. The people who make money here do so because of football, and they can’t break free from that mindset… or some are idiotic enough to have a realpolitik view of football overseas. Scott could very well be advising the league to forget football and to go with volleyball, hoops, soccer, gymnastics, swimming/diving and T&F. That would be what anyone with more than half a brain would do to draw Chinese viewers and paid attendance. But stick in the mud types and those who think they’re the mostest brilliantest marketing geniuses ever can easily ignore his counsel because they bring the money to back the idea.

            Besides, the logistics are just ridiculous. How many other sports require a trailer full of supplies just to play the game? Other sports can come and go with a suitcase.

            In the end, the only value for the league playing a football game over there would be to gain notoriety at home, not there. It would largely be ignored and forgotten in China, but it would be front page news stateside.

          • ObjCritic says:
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            Nike not hitting China targets, indicates new strategies to come:

            http://www.oregonlive.com/playbooks-profits/index.ssf/2013/10/nike_executives_plot_revenue_c.html

            Nike recalibrating approach to China:

            http://www.oregonlive.com/playbooks-profits/index.ssf/2013/10/nike_chief_executive_mark_park.html

            Nike has 7,300 stores in China, plans campus in Shanghai:

            http://www.oregonlive.com/playbooks-profits/index.ssf/2011/10/nike_the_number_one_sports_bra.html

            Sounds like they plan on growth coming through running shoes, women’s sports, and probably soccer, though soccer is probably more important elewhere. Good calls Jack.

          • Jack says:
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            I’m not saying they’re not going to try to grab as much of an emerging market as they can. But they have been there for years, and they make mistake after mistake for the same reasons I said above. They have a certain hubris in their ability to market due to their successes everywhere except China. Adidas has now caught them in China. But the two of them together lag compared to a handful of domestic brands. And that’s with Li-Ning, the biggest of the five or six domestics, having issues with rebranding and stagnant sales. The market is re-opening for those domestic brands while only Adidas is showing any positive foreign brand gains annually. Some predict ANTA will come out as the winner due to valuation, but Li-Ning is poised to come out big due to being undervalued.

            If I recall correctly, that 7300 stores number is what Li-Ning cut their total to after shuttering about a thousand after a poor 2012. But they are showing positive numbers in year one of a three year plan to increase their domestic market share by another 50%. And that doesn’t include ANTA and the other domestics projected to take their own slices of pie and Adidas gaining annually at a slow rate.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    And feeding more to these belligerent fans, S-I with this cover:

    http://college-football.si.com/2013/10/30/oregon-ducks-marcus-mariota-sports-illustrated/?sct=cf_t2_a3

    Bet Mariotta doesn’t suffer the cover curse.

    • carltogr carltogr says:
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      Mariota in a semi_Heisman pose. Funny to see the Nike shoe — guess we’ll have to “wait for the other shoe to drop”. If they beat Stanford, they win the Nat Title IMO.

    • whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      he’s fucked now

  • ObjCritic says:
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    OT – somebody else pointed out that this is not a good year for Mannion to enter the draft because it’s QB rich. S-I’s top 50 players include 9 qb’s, 5 of them seniors, and most of the underclassmen being dual-threat types.

    But the best part of the list? The name of prospect #26, poor kid:

    http://mmqb.si.com/2013/10/29/2014-nfl-draft-big-rankings/?sct=nfl_t1t_a4

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      Worst part, # 48 is a senior and just starting play to his potential. Wish he could be around one more season.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      Anyway OLive can trade Schnell and reporter-to-be-named-later for Lyida? Lydia misspoke at least once and is green, but what be a great improvement over Schnell’s goofiness-as-cute effort (which fails). Plus I prefer brunettes.

      Like the “Oregon State” in the backdrop behind them, proper font, colors! If the university would use their own products more consistently.

      Jaynes had some good comments; Mannion performed well in this situation, but the team left points on the field and FGs could have been the difference.

      • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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        I actually haven’t watched the video yet. I was linking to the Tim Euhus blog entry about what it would take for the Beavs to compete in the BCS, and if that is even what the school wants to direct more resources towards. Will have to check out Lydia later when I’m not at work.

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    The events that transpired in Minneapolis last Sat may have a more profound impact than the rant of an ex player. The fan base of Nebraska has had it with Pelini and want him gone. The F you rant against the fans was the proverbial straw. There is a over whelming desire to hire a “Nebraska guy”
    to run the program. Scott Frost is one of the two guys who would fit the profile, Tom Rarhman being the other. I would believe if Frost is the guy he would not hesitate to take guys off the current duck staff to make his transition successful. Certainly the continuity in Eugene has been a factor in the run of success. One can hope. Go Beavs.
    BTW: God that was fun listening the bitching cornhuskers leaving the stadium.

  • HelloBeavers says:
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    “…criticized Marcus’ ability to throw the football, DeAnthony’s ability to run the football, the lineman’s ability block, and the coach’s ability to analyze film and call plays. After hearing so much ignorant (expletive), I turned around to tell the “fans” to chill the (expletive) out.”

    Could easily replace player names here and it would reflect the sentiment expressed by Angry and his Angry followers.

    Sorry Jack – I don’t feel giong through previous posts to pull out examples…

    • Jack says:
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      I know you don’t. You would then have to defend your choice of quotes. And you would likely be wrong, as you are in your general assessment of what happens here.

      Lazy is as lazy does.

    • Jack says:
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      Btw… criticizing Mariota’s ability to throw the ball (I’m assuming as a QB and not just the action of throwing it) was and is completely valid. He had three throws beyond 10 yards, and all were in the first half. One was the missed TD referenced just after the above quote. The WR was wide open in the end zone, and he just completely missed a throw that any better than average QB makes with ease. He misread coverage on another, and his WR broke off the route while he threw it to the flag. And he threw one duck to the wide side where he was really lucky the DB broke late and then still played the ball… and still almost got to it. Halftime adjustments called for him to rarely throw beyond five yards and never again past eight yards. He threw only one ball all game to a receiver who was even remotely covered, and that was a throw-away at the end of the first half to stop the clock so their K could miss a FG.

      I’m not sure picking on DAT is valid. History shows he can run. And he was likely rusty. Maybe they were complaining about his interior running? That would be valid I guess. But he’s a space player. That’s like griping about steaks at a burger joint.

      Their line blocking was sporadic because UCLA had a good defensive scheme in the first half. It was a surprise to me that Nikegon was caught off guard by their play because it is what UCLA has done all year. So blocking and play-calling were legitimate complaints in the first half. Halftime adjustments were very very obvious. Then it became clear Mora was unable to make those calls.

      I honestly don’t know what this ex-player is upset about. There are unruly fans all over the world. There are more than and less knowledgeable fans, drunk fans, sober fans, not fully clothed fans and just about any other kind of fan you can think of… just about anywhere you go. I can’t tell if the author was upset more by the perceived negativity or the tone with which they presented themselves. If it was the tone, then I suggest he was just as bad a “fan” as those he derides.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    From Ted Miller’s blog:

    “Riley said the protection issues against Stanford were about missed assignments as well as some one-on-one battles that didn’t go well.

    “We made some assignment mistakes on some stuff Stanford did, and that cost us some sacks, and then physically we’d get beat from time to time,” he said.”

    Same for Texas. And I know OSU won’t have all of TE’s or have them at full strength if available this Saturday, but they’ve got to do something different instead of just tell Phillips and the RBs they need to NOT miss assignments.

    I suggest an extra lineman, maybe having Andrews and Harlow out there at the same time, and the lighter Harlow serving more as an H-Back. Or just have more lineman on the line.

    But don’t set up Phillips for a Kelly/Okafor repeat. USC’s offense is struggling. If OSU can protect this week, they stand a good chance of winning. If not, it could easily be another lower scoring loss.

    • Jack says:
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      It would be awesome to slap an overstretched #44 jersey on someone like Gavin Andrews and have him move back and forth from either Hback to FB and back again. Line him up at SE for the fly sweep to his side?

      • ObjCritic says:
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        Nah, that Andrews fly sweep would develop too quickly for Riley’s taste.

        I think it’d be funny to put Wynn at FB or lone setback and say “Kill the first rush guy through…” and see what happens.

    • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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      We have seen this movie too many times, and we know how it ends.

      During last year’s Alamo Bowl, it became obvious to practically everyone (except the OSU coaches) that Colin Kelly was overmatched against Texas’ Alex Okafor. Similarly, it became obvious last Saturday that Michael Philipp was overmatched against Stanford’s Trent Murphy. In each case, OSU coaches failed to make the necessary in-game adjustments to provide the overmatched player with help. The completely predictable result was relentless pressure on OSU’s QB, leading to sacks, knockdowns, and hurries (and lost games that otherwise could have been W’s for OSU).

      So here comes USC this Friday night. The USC defense has a strong front seven, and has already recorded 26 sacks this season (7th in the nation). Sophomore DE Leonard Williams has five of those sacks, and is the only underclassman among 16 semifinalists for the Bednarik Award, presented annually to college football’s outstanding defensive player. If Leonard Williams proves during the game to be too much for Michael Philipp or Sean Harlow to handle one-on-one, will the OSU coaches provide an extra blocker to help? Or will the OSU coaches just exhort Philipp or Harlow to try harder? Hint: we’ve tried approach #2, and it doesn’t work.

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        I think we already know the answer to that one

  • slamadam says:
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    anybody catch the basketball game last night? probably not a whole lot to gather from playing an naia team (pretty sure corban’s naia) but it’s good to hear gomis and brandt played and that they only allowed 42 points.

    • Jack says:
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      They shook off some rust and made it a joke starting about halfway through the first half. Barton, Reid, Robbins and LMW look good. Berto is Berto. Brandt looks about 80% of what he was when he went down… probably just taking it easy. Gomis is what I thought he’d be, tilting to the defensive end. N’diaye might be better than I thought on the offensive side. The frosh guards look like frosh guards. And I’m gonna have to back-track on Olaf until dude starts hitting treys. The rest of his game will develop as he matures, but the perimeter shooting is why he’s on the floor now. If he can’t do it, then others need to take that time.

      • slamadam says:
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        agreed on Olaf. After Collier serves his one game I don’t know how many minutes he really needs to be out there, especially if Reid and LMW have improved. Most excited to hear that Robbins started and played well, to me he has the biggest potential to become an all conference guy from last year’s freshmen class. Stoked for the season to start.

  • FatDog says:
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    RE the Canzanno letter.
    I am stuck on the image of fans sitting at a game bad mouthing a team that is going to win by 40 points. What do they want?

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Dirty Ducks. Looks like that lack of institutional control at the UofO was more widespread than just in the athletic department.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/education/index.ssf/2013/10/university_of_oregon_employees.html#incart_river_default

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      You don’t know the half of it. Those responsible are not being held accountable. They have removed their scapegoat, and they’re going to lay it all at her feet and at the feet of the 13 employees who were told by those responsible to work on furlough days. More audits will also reveal the illegal movement of grant monies from one project/department to others to not only spend the money (in use-it-or-lose-it grant scenarios), but to cover budget shortfalls in the others.

      There’s about to be one big mess happening at Nikegon, and they’ll be about as transparent as a brick through it all.

  • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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    It appears that the win at all costs mentality down there reaches beyond the athletic department. And there’s this gem in Canzano’s blog today

    Shook my head when someone forwarded me a tweet from a UO staffer, who dismissed the thoughts from ex-Ducks players as “trolls.”

    http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2013/11/canzano_blog_on_ducks_fans_slu.html#incart_river_default

    It appears that as long as the current product on the field is a cash cow, winning Pac-12 titles and competing for national championships, screw everyone else. Former players? F em! Unruly fans? Don’t give a rip shiat! Fan safety? What’s that? Anyone else remember the girl that got raped in the parking lot at Autzen last year?

    http://www.kgw.com/news/Teen-reports-rape-at-Autzen-after-Ducks-game-171377501.html

    It’s a problem and anyone that begs to differ is a moron and burying their head in the sand. That University in Eugene is a cesspool of cheating, filth and entitlement out of control and they and their fans really don’t care. Long as the football team is steamrolling opponents 70-10, right? I may not be Riley’s biggest fan and I know a lot of us complain, but I’d rather roll with the Beavs as they currently are than be a douchebag, johnny come lately, bandwagon, trashy duck fan of their university of cheating, unethical, money grubbing, whorish behavior. Makes me absolutely sick.

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      http://oregon.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1569173&PT=4&PR=2
      Obviously a site you probably don’t want to read, but this gives a little bit of a different perspective on the situation.
      I’m sure you know that Clownzano is a click-baiter. There’s a lot things that could’ve gone on before that letter was ever released to the public.

      • Jack says:
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        Wow is that a really poorly written “article.” The content is decent and redundant. The content is decent, but the writing would fail a HS frosh English class. I’m guessing he is looking back on what was written and apologizing for butchering the English language and giving bloggers a bad name. But the content is decent… and redundant.

        Did I say the content was decent?

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