29.Oct.2014 Oregon Media, Take Note

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Journalists should be dark, funny, mean people. It’s appropriate for their antagonistic, adversarial role.

Matt Taibbi, in this article.

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  • mckalk says:
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    From your lips to Ken Goe’s ears (or the numerous other hacks more interested in protecting the status quo or their access).

  • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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    Bat signal went out tonight a couple hours ago. First reply to Riley’s twee

    Any names? Anyone care?

    • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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      Whoops, Forgot to put the reply in. Multiple people clowning on Riley with:

      Never a great day to be a beaver

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      Maybe Cal forfeited Saturday’s game? Hip Hip Horrific?????

  • AnotherRileyLoss says:
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    The in-state media bending like a freak show contortionist to portray Riley as some great coach when in fact he has more smackdown defeats than anyone on national TV and can’t beat a ranked team in 20 tries. Now he is almost as bad in conference.

    Went back and looked at Canzano’s ‘Riley contract madness’ piece and noticed they deleted over 50 comments on it. It was over 3/4 critical remarks of Riley and BDC but apparently that honest opinion from real fans was too much for them and so they edited it to be tamer and falsely more balanced than what was actually expressed.

    The media can’t handle the truth and gloss over the blatant and continual issues that are never properly addressed. Blogs like angry’s call a spade a spade. Riley doesn’t beat any but bad teams now. Probably won’t beat Cal at home even though most still consider them in the bottom few of the league. Lose this game and there is no mistaking OSU is in lowest tier of the Pac-12 and downtrending quickly to the cellar.

  • Alex says:
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    Hip Hip Horrific…I literally LOL every time I see it. +100 to the PO guy who coined it.

    Someone in a previous thread compared Riley to Tedford and I think that analogy is spot on. Tedford took a shambles of a program and made it competitive, peaked, then slowly declined until the program was just as bad as where he started. He had the job a very long time. Got older, and his job security gradually eroded his hunger and drive to excel. He let the game pass him by.

    Tedford had a long leash and it took awhile for the hammer to drop. But even years out it became apparent. I think Riley’s around where Tedford was ~2 years before he was fired. If you think this year is hip hip horrific, wait for 2015…

    Canzano’s recent article about Riley’s contract talks about how he used to only care about football and the Ws, but now he sees it as a huge opportunity to mentor and develop young men who need help. Great goal, and admirable. But not what you want out of a head coach. Can’t we make a position for him in the program where he can make a difference off the field, and turn over coaching to someone focused on making a difference on the field?

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      he’s supposed to be a head football coach. Not a social worker.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      I’ve often thought that Riley could have a role as a program ambassador of sorts, making connections with the recruits that SOMEBODY else – head coach and staff – evaluate, identify, and prioritize for OSU recruitment. A number of the recruits do seem swayed by his “family” approach, including talented players like Cooks, Stroughter…

      • helmsley says:
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        Dunno about Stroughter, but if I am to believe the Cooks write-ups, he is a strategic thinker. He would get to play more at OSU – his talent, work ethic and drive would allow him to produce in the OSU system. I’m not sure how much “family” had to do with it.

        • angry angry says:
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          It had everything to do with immediate playing time. He was on the fast track and did exactly what he planned to do. Family only came into play in the sense Cooks knew he wouldn’t be playing for a bunch of dickbags but it had nothing to do with him committing.

          Stroughter became very close with Jim Gilstrap and that had everything to do with his commitment.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    OSU advertising “fall carnival!” this weekend.

    What roles do Riley and Banker play? I don’t see any ringleader. I think there’s a fat lady singing, but I think she’s going to be singing for a couple of years…

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Beavs passing game inconsistent, and sounds like they’re working on the deep ball, where they likely will have trouble protecting Mannion:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/10/oregon_state_beavers_practice_27.html

    • Jack says:
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      Well… maybe it’s a ruse?

      If Cal thinks this is what we’re doing maybe they’ll be practicing against this scheme all week, leaving them susceptible to the run game. Knowing our coaches though, they’ll think thesame thing and believe Cal’s coaches are smart enough to know this. So we will play this scheme, knowing their coaches knew what we were doing was running a ruse… but it wasn’t.

      But then there’s the possibility that their coaches know that our coaches know their coaches know it’s a ruse, making it a double ruse.

      • ObjCritic says:
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        Your double ruse reminds me of the Princess Bride scene where they have two drinks in front of them, one of them poisoned, – with Riley or Banker being the guy that always says “Inconceivable!”

        Andre the Giant: “I do not think that word means what you think it means.”

        • Jack says:
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          I often think Riley and the Pollyannas are Vizzini, and we’re just a bunch of Fezziks and Inigos wondering what the hell the guy who’s supposed to know what’s what is doing. All the while, we’re just waiting for our hero to come along and save us all in the name of true love.

  • angry angry says:
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    This is journalism: http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/the-worldwide-cheerleader-espn-and-the-college-football-playoff-20141028

    Cheers to Rolling Stone and Jordan.

    • angry angry says:
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      And conversely we have this: http://www.dailybarometer.com/sports/oregon-state-football-needs-to-establish-its-season-identity/article_d17b67d2-5fec-11e4-bc89-001a4bcf6878.html

      Oregon State needs to ESTABLISH THEIR IDENTITY

      lololololol

      • helmsley says:
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        “burst out onto to the field with an ‘ inhibition’ to conquer their offensive opponent.” Actually, there seems to be overall inhibition, not to mention the coaching staff, on this team but I trust the reporter didn’t mean to use it in that context.

      • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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        But …. they HAVE established their identity! Sloppy, inconsistent, poor at fundamentals, slow, mistake prone….

        I’d say this team has found it, and is settled into a real groove… Hip, hip…

      • mckalk says:
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        What the hell is a “Tejo Pack”? I remember The Barometer used to have a writer who was fairly critical of Craig Robinson, I don’t think it’s this guy.

    • ean says:
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      That reads as a blog post to me. Not really great journalism. The ESPN-SEC connection is a real issue that deserves a serious journalistic investigation.

      • Jack says:
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        What reads as a blog post? The one with many specific examples backing up many specific ideas reads as a blog post? Or the one with an amorphous, “hi there, I’m new to OSU and haven’t figured out anything” school newspaper piece?

        If you’re looking for footnotes, try the red type text.

        Perhaps this bothered you?

        “Media today is a choir of witless parrots reinforcing consumers’ preexisting predilections, an echo chamber that, at its best, rarely edifies consumers and, at its worst, actively manipulates them. Such criticisms were previously reserved for political and news coverage , but now we can’t even trust the accuracy of reporting on our meaningless pastimes.”

        • Jack says:
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          Remember, the author isn’t disputing the notion that the SEC is the best football conference. He’s (she’s?) saying the notion that it’s by far the best is only a notion borne of marketing by a company using their power to grab revenue. Maybe the SEC is the best football conference. Who knows? But objective reporting can’t be found to say so.

  • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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    Tanner J Sanders @TannerRanner

    Newest member of the @OregonStateMBB team! ???? #GoBeavs

    • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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      Pretty cool for a local kid to be able to play both D1 football and basketball in his home town

  • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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    Sounds like John Canzano had a couple of good Beav interviews today. First had Eric Moreland on and from the bits i’ve seen online, Moreland didn’t have great stuff to say about CR.

    Then he interviewed coach riley about the shitty contract. I’ll paste the podcast links in here when they’re up.

    • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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      Eric Moreland interview is up: http://750thegame.com/2014/10/30/eric-moreland-oregon-state-to-the-nba/

      • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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        actually, don’t bother with the moreland interview. just listened to is. canzano oversold the clips he put online. it’s pretty boring

        • mckalk says:
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          There was a lot of hype about his great play in the summer and preseason, yet it looks like he’s on the inactive list?

    • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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      Riley Interview:

      https://soundcloud.com/kxtg-the-bald-faced-truth/bft-mike-riley-10-30-14

      • Corey says:
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        More “identity” bullshit. Status quo for Riley. It’s unfortunate, because Canzano had a prime opportunity to ask some real questions but you can tell he’s too worried about burning bridges.

        • helmsley says:
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          “Canzano had a prime opportunity to ask some real questions.” Indeed! For example,when Riley notes that Cal throws running plays into the offense – they don’t only pass – What better opening than for Canzano to ask why Riley is chicken-s*** to run the ball. As little as I understand about football intricacies, even I know that to throw on 3 & 1 close to the goal line is not usually done, not to mention doing it again on 4th down.

          Riley barely acknowledged responsibility in this interview and his continuity sweetness is nauseating. Mediocre, mistake-repeating continuity isn’t an asset to anything. He and Dee decided to make Corvallis their last stop. They can stay without his coaching football.

          As for Cav not caring – as has often been noted on this site, where else can two people under-perform as notably, say it comes with the territory, thumb their noses, and know they won’t be fired?

          • Jack says:
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            You can type the word shit here.

            And Riley will retire to Gruene. Years from now, when I’m an hour early for a game, I’m not going to get to sit in the front lobby and get to talk to Mike Riley as he gets wheeled into the stadium.

            RIP Coach Valenti.

      • angry angry says:
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        Canzano tough in print, then wilts like a little girl.

        • Jack says:
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          Surprised?

          And what’s with disparaging little girls? My daughter would ask him point blank questions with little regard for politics. In fact, she would probably ask questions she heard me ask during games.

    • Jack says:
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      Did Moreland say CR will never be fired because OSU is too afraid to lose their federal funding?

      Hahahahahaha… aaahhhhh… that one never gets old.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    blitz has a free article/interview up with Mike Cavanaugh. I’m not going to link it. But however he states for those that think he’s doing a shitty job he doesn’t care. Here’s my issue. With both the offensive and defensive lines. Injuries have been a major issue. That I will agree with. But you’re going to have injuries and attrition every fucking year! If you have a lack of depth, well that still falls on you because of lack of ability to recruit quality or enough athletes. 13 fucking years and we STILL have a lack of depth on both lines? Last really good O line we had was 2006. That team had some road graders up front.

    • mb says:
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      Coach Cavanaugh meet Derek Neilsen. An NFL prospect, no. A guy that can ably fill in at guard or tackle and provide useful service for a few series every game, yes. He left after his sophomore year and could have given the Beavers two good years of valuable experience and depth. Coach Cav, what happened?

      • helmsley says:
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        He walked on and after playing 2? years, Riley wouldn’t give him a scholarship.

        • Jack says:
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          I’m a little tired of the Neilsen is God idea. He’s not even depth. He should be a career practice squad participant. That he even played gives our argument credence.

          Also sure to come up will be Beaton’s decision to follow his dreams. Sorry, but I hold no animus toward him for that. But I do expect a very very well paid public employee to account for such attrition.

    • Jack says:
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      We know he doesn’t care. There’s nothing new there.

      Since Gilstrap died, Cav’s recruiting and line maintenance has been pretty crappy. We’ve talked about it ad nauseum for six years now. He inherited a lot of really really good linemen and brought Perry with him from Hawai’i. And then he proceeded to recruit and fill the depth chart with a bunch of questionable JUCO players and some borderline HS prospects.

      O-linemen are supposed to be the smartest players on the field. What does it say when our O-line coach goes out and recruits a bunch of kids who can’t even make it on the field if they even get to the school? You are correct. We should be recruiting five or more O-linemen every year and expecting at least two to fall out due to attrition. It’s very short (pun not intended… but recognized) sighted to make excuses after failing to know this… while being paid a very handsome executive salary… on the public’s dime.

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    Sitting on the couch watching FSU v Louisville and ignoring the political calls that the Comcast caller ID keeps popping up on the screen, when one comes along from a guy I played softball with a few years ago.

    I hadn’t seen or talked to him in at least two or three years. Turns out he is a season football season ticket holder and is looking for someone, anyone apparently, to go to the game with on Saturday night. I can only imagine how far down his list of friends he must have gone before calling me.

    I, politely declined, due to about ten reasons that have all been well aired here all week. I’m at the point where I was with CR’s final death throes, watch on tv until unbearable, hit the off button… forget. JB

    PS: Hoping to hear from Will’s dad soon. He has gone silent. Wonder what he’s thinking?

    • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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      Heard a Riley interview recently where he said he thinks Will will have a big role on the team next year. Will’s dad has probably gone silent while scouting for his son’s games next year.

      Anybody out there watch the Clippers/Thunder game tonight? The new clipper owner from Microsoft looks like a big retarded bald baby.

    • Jack says:
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      Your game is at 4:30. That’s not too late to get up here and get home. Try the 7:30 start time we have to deal with.

      It is interesting that even you Ducks are having a hard time finding interested parties to attend, though. I would have expected at least tomorrow’s game to be well attended, what with the chance for retribution and all.

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