Thread for the Beavs 2012 class.
Updates throughout the day.
Cyril Noland has signed. Three-star safety out of Ruston, Louisiana.
Thanks for the update. Maybe you guys can keep the updates flowing. I need a few more hours of sleep. Rough night!
Of course we all knew the good class was too good to be true. Mike Riley has repeatedly shown that he can’t close for shit.
What’s that now? You’re an idiot.
You going to be saying that next fall when we can’t stop the run again because our DTs are high school quality players. JC DT was a huge area of need, and if we lose Tonga (to Colorado State nonetheless), we don’t have any. Keep making excuses for Riley, though.
l love the name calling.
Grant Bays has signed his LOI
Kenny Lawler is down to Oregon State and Cal.
Josh Mitchell has signed his LOI
Caleb Saulo has signed
Chris Brown, Zack Robinson, Kendall Hill, Joel Skotte have signed as well.
Dustin Stanton has signed
Caleb Smith has signed
Are you standing next to the fax machine????
No lol. Just getting the information off Twitter.
Thanks for providing.
I’ll second that! 🙂
Where you getting this info so quickly? And thank you!!
Brent VanderVeen and Garrett Owens have signed
What’s taking Isaac so long? Can’t he just hand it to his dad or is that a NCAA violation?
Can you guys imagine a couple years down the road when we have a front line consisting of the likes of Jackson, Weinreich, Andrews, Addie, Bays, Seumalo and Eldredge?
How did we end up with a bunch of guys who were really slow and undersized TE’s in high school on our line?
concur, Jack. The strenght of the class may be dissipating from the best possible scenario but in one of the two areas we most need help (the O and D lines) this area can’t be faulted.
Malik gilmore, hell yesss!
Malik Gilmore | WR | 6-4 | 200 | Lakewood, Cali
Malik Gilmore has signed
Garrett Weinreich has signed
Went to check the commit list on rivals…here’s what I found out:
“The selected team does not have a football program. Select a different team from the menu above, or use the provided link to switch to basketball.”
LOL, that’s the funniest thing I’ve heard in a long time. Kind of true (for the last season and a half anyway).
Chase Eldredge has signed
You were about 7 minutes ahead of the info being posted on the Beavs website. Are you in the coach’s office looking at the fax machine?
Dude don’t push him to ID himself, just enjoy the inside info.
Garret Owens signed… someone mentioned he will probably grey shirt? I know you don’t typically have more than one scholarship kicker but we could really use some competition.
Competition indeed! I like this move.
those Arroyo Grande guys must have all gotten together and sent a single fax to save paper. So very green of them
CliffGT Cliff Kirkpatrick
For those worried about OL Isaac Seumalo, I heard he’s signing at 12:15 p.m. at Corvallis High. The GT will be there.
Speaking of Isaac Seumalo I hope he makes his decision based on what HE wants to do rather than being pressured into doing the opposite. One of the things that will eat at a person is wishing they’d done something that they didn’t.
I can’t imagine what kind of pressure he was under when he got home from USC. It’s possible (probable?) that his whole family was down on him for even thinking about becoming a toejam. Then there’s his buddies, girl friend, teachers, etc., etc.. That would be tough.
Anyway here’s hoping he’s making a decision that won’t mean he’s second guessing himself for the rest of his life.
In case it isn’t obvious I’m hoping he becomes a Beaver but only if that’s what he REALLY wants to do.
Here’s hoping that he’ll end up as a future NFL lineman repping Oregon State.
I don’t know… you could be right but he made a decision to stick with family… I would think he would be more likely to regret the decision to not stick with family.
Wouldn’t it have been pretty embarassing if OSU had lost him? I mean, if there ever was a pitch served over the middle in the recruiting wars. If he had been lukewarm initially then one would think he wanted to get away, but that was never the case.
it would have been catastrophic to lose Seumalo. The attrition we saw late would have kicked in earlier and faster.
Kenny Lawler making his decision between OSU and CAL at 3 on Foxsportswest.com
Geez, this guy likes publicity.
He does but that’s cause of his dad. His dad is ridiculous with this stuff.
Gavin Andrews has signed
sweet he is my favorite on the O-line besides Seumalo. We’ll see though… he might struggle some with the speed rushers on the end.
There’s no way with his weight, he’ll play tackle. He’s a guard for sure. Just needs to get down to around 300 if that 340 weight is correct.
maybe but it would be nice to have the long body on the outside. If he really is 340 I am sure he can get down to 310 or so.
He and Weinreich are huge signings. Both looked pretty underrated to me.
Didn’t they have a live feed of the fax machine last year? Man that was riveting.
They did. I remember Gundy and Heyward hung out around it quite a bit.
Are they still sent as a traditional fax? I mean are coaches really standing around a machine waiting? Scanning and then e-mailing seems to work pretty well in business! I remember the days of thermal fax machines and you’d hear of a recruit or two who couldn’t get the machine to work or the fax wouldn’t go through!
Fyi… Owens is not the only one lost by by the AFA.
Matt Wallerstedt is going to aTm.
Cleveland Wallace to Washington according to some rumors.
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Hearing that CB Cleveland Wallace may be flipping commitment to #UW. #rivalsnsd
money talks I guess
UCLA and UW are running up against limits. LA papers are reporting that UCLA would be 10 over their 85 limit if all known commits sign today. And UW has suddenly run out of ships to offer… while still waiting on a half dozen kids to decide.
May or may not have made a difference, but might have been a good idea to have a little more urgency on hiring the new DB coach.
No shit. MR f’d that up.
Tyler Hasty has signed
Hasty is in.
Welcome To Beaver Nation: Tyler Hasty | CB | 5-11 | 180 | Newcastle, Wash. (Bellevue)
Hold on… Shelton about to announce….
Welcome To Beaver Nation: Josh Mitchell | OL | 6-3 | 285 | North Bend, Wash. (Mount Si)
Oh… and Mitchell is in. That DL box is looking lonely.
I was thinking the same thing, good thing no big bodies are needed at DT.
It will be interesting to hear Riley and if he has any plans to move any of the OL to DT.
im thinking he doesn’t have a choice at this point
Looking like the OL is coming together anyway. That has been the #1 reason for our decline, so this is a big class step forward. Real quality guys here..Josh Mitchell just signed, and assuming we get Isaac.
Sure took them forever to announce Josh Mitchell signing official
Posting this from a friend’s email who follows recruiting far better than I do – thought the info might be of use:
Of the guys we had verballed, we’re waiting on Wallace, Miller, and Mageo.
Of the guys we’re chasing, we’re waiting on:
– Lawler (between OSU and Cal – choosing at 3p PST)
– Hasek – no one has heard from him
#01 – Isaac Seumalo (OT) – 6’3″, 280 (6.0) – signing this afternoon at Corvallis HS
#02 – Caleb Smith (TE) – 6’7″, 240 (5.8) – signed
#03 – Cleveland Wallace (CB) – 6’1″, 170 (5.6) – waiting…
#04 – Chris Brown (RB) – 5’11”, 200 (5.7) – signed
#05 – Calvin Tonga (DT) – 6’4″, 340 (5.5) – bounced to CSU
#06 – Garrett Weinreich (OT) – 6’6″, 290 (5.6) – signed
#07 – Gavin Andrews (OG) – 6’5″, 280 (5.6) – signed
#08 – Grant Bays (OC) – 6’3″, 290 (5.6) – signed
#09 – Malik Gilmore (WR) – 6’3″, 195 (5.7) – signed
#10 – Brent VanderVeen (QB) – 6’5″, 203 (5.7) – signed
#11 – Devian Shelton (CB) – 6’1″, 185 (5.8) – signed
#12 – Chris Miller (OLB/S) – 6’1″, 195 (5.6)
#13 – Joel Skotte (MLB) – 6’2″, 225 (5.6) – signed
#14 – Tyler Hasty (CB) – 6’0″, 180 (5.5) – signed
#15 – Zack Robinson (OLB/S) – 6’2″, 195 (5.5) – signed
#16 – Josh Mitchell (OG/DT) – 6’3″, 273 (5.5) – signed
#17 – Kendall Hill (S/WR) – 6’3″, 175 (5.3) – signed
#18 – Cyril Noland (OLB/S) – 6’0″, 193 (5.6) – signed
#19 – Chase Eldredge (OT) – 6’4″, 260 (5.4) – signed
#20 – Dustin Stanton (TE) – 6’6″, 210 (5.6) – signed
#21 – Caleb Saulo (MLB) – 6’2″, 218 (5.4) – signed
#22 – Rommel Mageo (DE) – 6’2″, 220 (N/A)
#23 – Garrett Owens (K) – signed
No DT’s that sucks.
It is a bummer…it looks like we are going with what’s already on the roster for DT’s. Do we have too many scholarships already tied up in the position already – or does it even matter?
Shelton? Thought there was no way he would sign?
I am not seeing Shelton signed
He didn’t say with who. Just signed. 🙂
My bad, jumped the gun on this one.
Picked USC. Good luck to him.
According to http://t.co/okNYg8H1, three-star Dalis Bruce is going to #EasternWashington. Major steal. #RivalsNSD
Surprised. Heard he was going to walk-on at UCLA. Really surprised he wasn’t more heavily recruited.
I’m going to pull my hair out over that one.
But what kid is going to be a walk-on schlub who rides the pine when they can play right away and get paid to do it?
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possibly today, has extensive NFL experience, will probably work LA area.
Does “extensive” mean he’s an old fart?
Has recruited ever before? and who will train him “Gee Golly Gee don’t go after that kid he’s committed already” Riley?
That will be neat!
USC… no… Cal… wait… scratch that… yesterday it was UW…. hmmm… never mind… Jordan Payton to UCLA.
shelton to usc
Shelton to USC.
No big surprise there.
Losing Wallace to UW would be a serious blow. How many committed kids has Sark poached from other schools? Too bad slimey recruiting is what it takes to get results. Wallace has been committed to OSU since last summer and Sark has been relentless.
Shelton to USC?
whats that Utah Southern Community College?
We’ll probably never hear from him again.
Watch how quick ESPN.com changes his two star status now that he has signed with the Trojans.
Snow CC or is it Dixie???
Cleveland Wallace is indeed a Husky. Big loss there for Oregon State.
Way to close the deal Riley!!
A taste of his own medicine for Sark!
WR Jordan Payton of Oaks Christian is headed to UCLA, according to Coach Bill Redell.
Proof that recruits don’t read these blogs and boards as much as some think they do. The UW/UCLA boards were like OSU/Wazzu has been over Lawler. When Payton chose UW, UCLA boards were the model of “we didn’t want him” and “he’s too slow” and “whatever, we don’t need him.”
I’m betting his 40 time has dropped four tenths of a second overnight.
Loss of Tonga and Wallace make this class typical OSU average.
Yes, this class is no better than the last one.
Tonga was a need, Wallace, a great player.
I was never a big Tonga fan… reminds me too much of Massiania… but we need some big bodies on the defensive side of the ball.
yeah and we saw what happened to the DL once he got hurt or got suspended, couldn’t stop anybody.
as opposed to before he got hurt and we stopped every team including Sac State?
As usual, you exaggerate.
It’s tough to lose guys at the last minute, but the fact is: Tonga isn’t that good. He’s at a position of perceived need, but his tape showed he was only good enough to provide some depth. The kid wasn’t going to start for us. There’s a reason he committed to Colorado State and not a Pac-12 school.
Losing Wallace stings for sure, but he was about our 8th-10th best recruit. Losing him doesn’t bump us from possibly the best class we’ve ever had all the way down to average.
This is still a very good class and I’m stoked to see us recruiting better over the last 2 years. Hopefully next year continues that trend.
As usual, you suck up to OSU/Riley, and forget another key poach: Chris Young, who was the best LB prospect in the class.
Lost best CB prospect to WA.
Lost best LB prospect to ASU
Lost position of need (Tonga) to…CoState!
And I am the one exaggerating. Okaay.
Chris Young never committed.
We have a DT on board he just probably won’t sign today.
As I said, it sucks to lose Wallace.
Scouting services listed Young as an OSU commit. Not sure what you’re talking about in saying he never committed.
One of them did, one of them didn’t.
The fact is, and this is not speculation, he never committed to us.
And your proof is?
You’re the prosecution here, buddy.
Perceived need? The perceived worst run defense in the Pac 12 perceived themselves at 101st in the FBS as well. I guess the perception of RB’s running for five and ten yard chunks up the middle make me perceive a need at DT.
We sucked last year to be sure, but we only had 4-5 DT’s who weren’t redshirting. This year, we’ll have 8-9. Our depth isn’t as bad as people think.
Tonga wouldn’t have helped since he’s not really very good.
We won’t be as bad as last year. But we don’t have anyone who can really play at the moment. I like A Seumalo for his effort, but his size and strength made him a rotation at best. Tuivailala was new, so we’ll see how he progresses. I don’t expect Bennett to be more than Tui was last year. Castro was a lump. But at least he was a big lump. I think Tonga was the same kind of prospect.
Pretty much my only hope is that Seumalo bulks up for his senior year, Tui gains a step, Bennett comes on strong and David Vieru comes out of nowhere to just destroy offensive lines.
For the record, I think Mitchell and Tago will work out fine. I think we just needed one more upperclass DT to help the youngsters ease into their roles… big lump or not.
decent class… once these guys develop we should have a 7-5 or 8-4 team if we fill some of the holes next year. Not great.
IF we fill the holes and new ones aren’t created by that time.
I would guess it will probably go more like 5-7 though.
Sharky methods check out this video
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the Sark method is all about the $
Given his U$C his roots, does make sense.
Not surprising, Sark is going to get his ass fired if they don’t improve soon.
I’m gonna love it when Malik Gilmore burns Wallace for big yardage! Hasty, Hill, Miller, and Noland look solid and that position is pretty well covered. Now we have a scholy open for a junior college DT. Hope Riley keeps looking
Can’t wait to find the next Blake Harrah!!
Chris Miller has signed.
Welcome To Beaver Nation: Chris Miller | S | 6-2 | 195 | Pomona, Calif. (Diamond Ranch)
It’s been 20 days since Heyward moved on. Figure Riley knew a week before hand. That is 1 month. Plenty of time to find a coach. Lost Wallace for that reason alone. If you’re Wallace, do you want to play for a coach you know or wait forever on Riley to hire a guy you may not like? Completely understand his decision. It’s another Riley letdown, as always, due to him being slow slow slow to react.
Well… Keith Heyward and his “that wouldn’t be ethical” can go to hell.
I never for a second thought he wouldn’t do his job as a coach at UW. Why anyone thought the ethics of not doing your job versus poaching (even indirectly) was even in question is beyond me.
But hey… at least there was no fallout at the CB position after KH left.
Nope. We lost Wallace because he has a man-crush on Keith Heyward. The ONLY hire that would have helped would have been to get Keith Heyward back.
Again, you are wrong. Wallace reaffirmed his commitment to OSU a few days ago, saying he liked Riley’s new hire. That new hire was never announced. Old man Riley took a little too long to get out of bed and change his diaper on Monday, but I’m sure he’ll have the announcement Thursday, a day late and dollar short. The story of Riley’s life.
Either that or the new coach talked Riley/Banker/BDC and didn’t like what he heard.
Or his current job heard he was interviewing and gave him a raise to keep him. Probably not a difficult thing to outbid OSU.
My feelings too. The way it’s played out my wag is Riley had someone in mind, told Wallace, and Riley then lost whoever it was.
It’s pretty clear we haven’t hired anybody yet.
Riley in a diaper… that’s a laugh!!
That’s not true. We were inches from the finish line without any coach. Having one in house to talk to Wallace would have likely sealed his commitment.
Or… a poor replacement might have made him run for the hills a lot earlier.
Now watch the new coach be a stud from another program but smiley let him stay til after LOI day so none of his recruits would jump ship.
It amazes me that Riley let signing day come and go without naming a new coach. What a boner.
That is very likely. Except for the stud part.
in direct contrast to Sarkisian who, as coach of a team that won 4 MORE games than Riley won total this year, does a complete make-over of his D-staff AND hires a new OC in 1/4 the time Riley has fiddled.
Sure this class is better than the 08-10 debacles, but in typical Riley fashion he couldn’t seal the deal with the guys that are most likely to be difference makers on the d-line and in the defensive backfield (i.e., the highly recruited guys). We end up with a handufl of lower-end DB recruits and nobody on the D-line. More of the same in that regard.
I liked the 2010 Class. Sure, we were cursed with that DT group. And losing Bibbee sucks (I wonder if he returns). But that was a nice LB group, and Mannion, Crichton and Murphy seem to be doing fine. It may have been a smaller class, but it was of high quality.
I disagree that no other coach could have kept Wallace.
If Riley managed to pull in a “holy shit!” Type of coach there’s a good possibility Wallace stays and maybe we do some poaching of our own.
More likely Riley’s hire is a “what the fuck?” Coach and he’s waiting to announce to keep any more recruits from bailing.
You don’t need to speculate. Wallace said as much a few days ago. Problem is the hire never came.
Riley should have thrown Heyward under the bus and told Wallace that he was a crappy technical coach and good luck with that up in Seattle!!! Fight dirty or go home!
Par for the course can’t close. Scout has our class ranked #48 and 11th in the pac12.
Which is exactly what I said, average. We always finished around 11th, and we always finish between 45-60.
At one point the class was ranked 27th. That’s a huge drop. Again, signing days woes. Worst part this could have been avoided with a young, dynamic recruiter who kept these guys on board. The lack of focus and urgency on defense is astonishing.
At one point Rivals had us 26th. Scout never had us that high. Highest I saw was 38th or something like that on scout. Rivals currently has us 31st, which would be the 2nd best rating we’ve ever had.
Rivals has us at 40
Exactly, where was the “rise and grind”, Lunchpail U attitude all the way to the finish??? It seemed like the last week they just stopped. They added one Kicker, lost a DT, two DB’s, a DE greyshirt, won’t seal the deal on any 4 star guys.
The three star guys they got in this class are really good, but you need a few of those top tier guys also. It wouldn’t surprise me if we lost Seumalo as well. I KNOW we don’t have him if it wasn’t for his dad being on staff.
What a disappointing day. And it’s not even 10:30 am.
It’s not that bad. We got the big hosses in.
We can always be Baylor or K State for a year or two… suck at run defense but just score on every possession.
Well… that’s if we can avoid the usual dive on 2nd and 8 followed by a four yard drag on 3rd and 7.
Montee Ball is licking his lips.
“We lost the three guys who looked to be shut down corners, a LB who had the size and speed to stop the spread, and our lone DT, but relax guys, it’s no biggie. They weren’t that good anyway. Dad will announce the hire tomorrow.”
-Brownale (aka Mike Riley’s son)
Kentrell Brice made 5 verbal committments to 4 different schools. Mike Riley’s fault he couldn’t close the deal? That’s ridiculous. Sucks to lose Devian Shelton and Cleveland Wallace.
Again, Chris Young NEVER committed to us. We didn’t lose him. He would have been nice to get, but we didn’t get him.
Tonga isn’t very good. He received 2 offers. We have a DT who will sign in this class.
Plus Rivals had him listed as a commit. Mamma Machado does not list guys lightly. He verballed on the trip, dude. Just get over yourself.
Chip Kelly has accepted the head coaching job with Tampa Bay.
Yes he did.
Then he gave it back.
The 0-star Samoan DT with no offers? Is that who you’re talking about? Sounds promising.
He’s unrated because nobody from any rating service has even heard of him, which only goes to show you that Samoa isn’t exactly on the beaten path for the recruiting services. He may be a gem. He may be a bust. I’m guessing he’ll end up somewhere in between.
I still don’t think that Tonga was that great a prospect, so losing him really isn’t that big a deal.
The last possible “positive” surprise on the board is Lawler, a jerkwad I don’t even want. For those who do want him, he’s going to Cal.
Man, this class is a real kick in the balls. I don’t want to watch terrible defense for the next four years. Riley’s new hire better be a defensive genius and an A+ recruiter.
You guys chill out, the Beavers got a kicker, they’re dominating the Pac-12 from now on.
Coaches say he’s got the frame to add 75 lbs and become a hybrid-linebacker. Get him to the training table and I think we’ve found the next Doggett.
He’ll have the body of Doggett and speed of Pankey. Coaching staff will have him the opening game starter.
Can he add another 75 after the first 75 and become a hybrid CB/DT?
If Owens can tackle as well as Romaine, we may need them both on defense.
No, but seriously. This class isn’t looking so good. I would say “yeah, at least we don’t have it as bad as Cal”.
Except they have all their 5 stars from the years previous and we have nay a single man at DT who looks to provide support for our standout DE’s.
So… yeah. I guess one more year of “rebuilding”?. We rebuilt our OL, but we certainly didn’t build anything else too well.
Just a nit but imo the OL isn’t rebuilt until these kids are playing and for most of them that SHOULD be 2 or 3 years from now but because of the Beavs desperate OL situation they’ll be thrown into the deep end of the pool much sooner than they should be. jmo
Attrition alone rebuilt our o-line. Thankfully, the NCAA has limitations on eligibility.
i will remember mike remmers for a very long time
I get the feeling Riley and DeCarolis live in a totally different world of expectation and results than the rest of us. Great day to be a Beaver huh. Picked up a kicker.
update from Lawler’s twitter page.
K_Law2nice kenny lawler
By far this is the hardest decision of my life cal osu or wsu .
17 minutes ago
My god, if he comes here now…
I mean, if you have a beautiful sundae, and you get a cherry on top, thats just dandy. But if your sundae is stolen by the neighborhood dirtbag Sarkisian, and all you are left with is a damn cherry, you get a bit pissed. Lawler isn’t going to do great things, and he doesn’t make a big difference to us.
Only thing is, if we get him, everyone will say that we are such great recruiters. Even though we lost 4 early impact players.
Sarkisian is UW, last I checked. Need to worry about a Leach here.
Peat to Stanford, if they get Murphy as expected thtat give Stndford 3 of the top 15 OT’s. Plus, they signed a couple of guards and a center.
They’ll need them with their hot new RB.
OL’s tend to do the best in school, position-wise, even better than QB’s, so I assume Stanford can extend a lot more offers there.
The fact that Stanford has such elite educational opportunities makes recruiting a lot easier.
Any news on Hasiak?
I have a feeling we just have to wait on him.
I think that would be just as big of a blow as the others if we don’t end up signing him. It sounded like he was our commit to lose.
I truly believe that this years recruiting is a total disaster outside of the OL. The guys that we got at every other position are just average at best. They may not be able to hold their own against the talent that the other Pac-12 schools are signing. USC, Oregon, Stanford and UCLA are all signing significantly higher quality players than us. We are going to expect that our average kids improve so much that they can compete head to head with kids that are already more talented. Our coaches, especially Banker are just not that good.
Then UW, which is now my most hated school, is leaving us in the dust.
With the new Air Raid offense at WSU, and the spread (which we have proven we can’t defend) at UA, we can not out score those teams.
So it looks like we are playing for the Kraft Hunger Bowl at best.
when do sc, oregon, stanford, and ucla NOT sign higher quality players than we do?
When we suck big time on D this year……………which we will. MR should be fired. He has put us in a position where we are always playing catch up due to bad planning with his roster. Hence, 10 or so DE’s last class and a ton of O-line this year. We will waste the talents of our two outstanding frosh DE’s because they will have no inside support. NO DT’s? Our head coach and staff are just stupid.
It’s alright, Banker will save us with his exceptional game planning ability.
Except that none of the personnel will execute. So while Banker will have schemed the perfect game, it will be the players’ fault.
Yup. Throw them under the bus Mark. This is depressing!
It could be a good thing if we can get the kicker in next year. But dam what a disappointing day.
“dam what a disappointing day”
Could be the next bumper sticker for sale at the bookstore
MR: “Great day to be a beaver.”
Beaver fan: “dam what a disappointing day”
Angrybeavs T-shirt, MR on the front and Beaver Fan on the back.
I come here every now and then because this site does have some insightful commentary on occation.
Today is not that day, thanks for a few good laughs though, the bickering amonst posters is pretty funny.
Go fuck yourself.
I’m getting the same “pit of my stomach” disappointed feeling that I have gotten almost every Saturday during football season for the last two years. Why do I continue to let Oregon State football give me hope, just to turn around and kick me in the nuts.
I think to myself that if I subscribed to a phone or cable company, or any other business that continually disappointed me with its service and did not live up to its billing, I would cancel service with them immediately. So why do I continue to root for this program after so much frustration? Am I crazy? Do I need to lighten up?
Regional monopoly of the mind.
Other than the CB defections, I’m pretty happy with this class. But I steeled myself for them leaving when KH left. The writing was on the wall.
The disappointment is that MR didn’t bother to read what was written. He put up a good fight once he was flanked, but he should have called the cavalry to save the day.
Still, I’m really happy with Hasty coming on board during this time.
I guess I equate it to growing up a Red Sox fan, every year you would get your hopes up that THIS would be the year to do it and then ultimately something would crash and burn. I equate it to the loveable loser. Now the Red Sox did manage to turn it around in my lifetime, so I am not giving up hope here either. However, it seems cleareer and clearer that MR isn’t the guy that is going to be able to lead us there.
This program needs an infusion of money and support to reach the levels where many of it want to be, and quite frankly the way things have been going they are going to get the opposite, which only means they will fall farther and further behind the likes of the major programs.
I think it’s more like being a Cub fan.
My thoughts exactly!
No way… the Cubs are flush with cash.
I’ve moved on to basketball. At least Craig can close the deal with his recruits!
Two winnable games this week. Get us to 16-7 Craig!
To bad he can’t close the deal on games! IMO he’s coaching lost us the Stanford and UA games. And there is no excuse for losing to ASU. Robinson is a good recruiter. He’s a below average coach.
Don’t agree he’s a below average coach. His coaching didn’t lose the Stanford game. The players just couldn’t hold onto a rebound and blew lay-ups.
Not playing Roberto Nelson for the last 10minutes of the second half and not putting him in until the 4th OT. Who’s fault was that? Watching Cunningham and Starks running fumes making mistake after mistake was very frustrating. Meanwhile, Nelson who scored what, 10+ points in the first half sat the bench. Finally came in in the 4th OT and looked fresh and scored some points to make it close. That was 100% on Robinson.
Yes, the players missed shots in regulation and the earlier OTs, but Robinson had chances to win that game with coaching and he blew it.
I agree he should have played Berto more but if Stanford doesn’t hit a three to force a 4th OT or if Collier doesn’t blow a lay-up in the 4th OT the Beavers win the game. They didn’t lose because of him.
Any close game can come down to a shot here or a shot there, I agree there. And we had our chances. However, having the teams second best player on the bench the majority of the second half and the first three OTs while the starters were obviously tired and making mistakes was bad coaching.
This site is funny to me. Riley has a far better track record. An overall winning record and led OSU football to some pretty decent results. Yet, Robinson has an overall losing record. His teams got worse in his second and third years and he’s made IMO numerous coaching errors in Pac12 play, yet everyone defends him. Why?
This is simple, because CR is in his first year with his own players. Riley is in his 10th or so.
Riley is headed down, down, ….. while Robinson now has a good chance to have his first winning season. How can you compare Riley’s results with Robinson’s?
Yeah, Riley had some good years, riding Erickson’s great showing in that Fiesta Bowl year, but now is on the decline. We are talking now, arent we?
The players lost the ASU game. It was nice that CoachRob apologized to us afterwards, but the players came out and half-assed their way to a loss. And they knew it. Berto was the only one with any real effort.
Ok, so when the football team comes out and half asses it. You and Angry, etc blame Riley. He can’t get them fired up, he isn’t good, bla bla bla bla bla.
OSU hoops comes out flat and its the players fault? Really? Come on, you know damn well a team coming out flat, especially after two tough OT loses falls squarely on the coach and his staff to motivate those guys and get them to play 100% regardless.
Difference for me is that Riley just stands there with his arms crossed and that stupid half smile on his face while his team gets embarrassed by WSU, Sac St., UCLA, etc. At least Robinson is screaming (you can even hear it on TV) and showing some emotion.
Mike Stoops screamed his head off. How’d that work out? People need to move past Riley and the emotion he shows. Its a BS argument.
I’ve also seen Robinson sit on his hands, and not use a timeout to stop another teams run. While their lead quickly grows to 5, 10, 15 points. Robinson has his faults. More then Riley IMO.
Lack of emotion he shows. Its gotta be pretty hard to look that careless if you do in fact care.
And has Coach Rob had nine years of coaching his team to the same level, or worse, as it was when he took it over?
When the same players half-ass it in game after game, then I will call it a motivation issue. When they do it year after year, then I will get on the coaches… hard. You’ll remember I was on CR for playing the holdovers despite their attitudes and abilities. I got on the players themselves as well, but it was CR’s fault they were on the floor in the first place.
You’ll also remember that I was defending Banker up until last year’s UCLA game. That was just an egregious showing that finally cemented a pattern.
I never wrote that it wasn’t Robinson’s fault.
Thing is, I think it’s a little of each. Coach’s fault if they can’t inspire effort. But football and basketball both need on the field/court leaders. Both sports currently lack that personality. Guys are going to miss shots and drop passes etc. That’s part of the game, even players in the NFL drop passes, and players in the NBA miss open shots. Part of the game. It’s hard to blame coaches or players for those types of things. CR doesn’t stink as a coach because Starks misses a wide open three. He stinks (if he does stink) because he fails to use timeouts correctly, doesn’t adjust to the other coach’s strategy, plays man when he should play zone, plays zone when he should play man, has bad FT shooters in at the end of games, etc. Those are the coaching issues. Same with Riley. E.g. I never blamed Riley for the WA loss when Joe H dropped the pass. I’ve seen HOF TEs drop passes like that. It’s part of the game. I blame him for the Cincy loss, though, where he didn’t challenge the clear DJ Woods fumble, and generally putting the wrong players on the field, etc, etc.
Beavs need on the field leaders in both men’s sports. When you have guys like that on the field it covers up a lot of coaching issues and makes every player around them better.
Sometimes shots just don’t fall at clutch moments. That’s basketball. I’d say he definitely closed the deal at the end last weekend against Oregon (at Oregon).
I think the jury is still out on Robinson. He’s probably not going to find another Jared Cunningham any time soon and I’m not sure he makes the best use of Roberto Nelson. I was intrigued by the report that Eric Moreland had gone to CR to ask to play the top (or was it the bottom?) of the 1-3-1. To me, it again brings up the point that these players have had good coaches, and know a thing or two about their game – when perhaps Robinson does not. OTOH, it was only a newspaper article, so who knows?
How many football events can the Beaver football program possibly SHANK in a ROW? Did Hekker coordinate recruiting day?! (I know that’s cold). What’s next? They’ll order the wrong color jerseys for the team next year? They’ll put SO at mid-field for the new turf at Reser? They’ll accidentally make the turf 95 yard long? They’ll hire too many new coaches and have to fire one? What else?!!! Shankville!!!
Thanks for the laugh. Liked the Hekker comment.
I think this class is going to help quite a bit on the offensive side. OSU added four very talented skill players (Chris Brown, Brent Vanderveen, Malik Gilmore, Caleb Smith). And OSU addressed the biggest problem on offense by signing a promising group of offensive linemen (led by Isaac Seumalo, one of the top O-line recruits in the country). Seems clear that OSU’s offense got better today.
I wish the same could be said for the defense. Everyone sees that OSU’s biggest problem on defense last season was the lack of big tough DTs. Looks like OSU did NOTHING to address that deficiency. Sure, we will probably see one or more of the O-line recruits jump across to become DT’s before next season starts. But why didn’t MR make it a top priority to sign at least one stud recruit DT? You know, the kind of guy that SEC teams seems to stockpile every year. Seems to me that this could have been accomplished if MR had made it a top priority. The failure to do so is totally on MR, in my view. And it’s a huge failure….
Keeping Wallace would have pacified me. Shutdown CB prospects are just as tough to find. Getting neither is killer.
Agree that keeping Wallace would have been great, but it wouldn’t have pacified me. Even if OSU still had Fred Thompson, the Beavers would have been seriously weak at DT. With FT’s tragic death, DT was the biggest and most obvious area of need. And it appears NOTHING was done to address that need. I find that hard to explain or accept….
Well, it is going to cost Riley his reputation if not his job. I don’t think the apologists can make up many more excuses.
The one thing I will say about DT is we have bodies we just don’t have playmakers. So IMO bringing in more bodies at DT is a waste of scholarships… bringing in playmakers is a good use. Of course IMO playmaking DT’s are the hardest position to recruit.
Agree, there are bodies, they just aren’t good. There are no playmakers on defense other than the DEs and Poyer.
The line wasn’t really very good even with Paea. I’d rather see staff changes then work on upgrading talent.
Honestly I am not sure what people are seeing in Calvin Tonga. I mean I would have taken him but all he was was a body. I’d rather gamble on a complete unknown like Tago than a guy who’s ceiling is mediocre.
You don’t know that Tonga has reached his ceiling and you surely don’t know the potential of a DT that no else in the Pac-12 recruited. Orange colored glasses work wonders.
you’re right… mediocre might be too generous.
Hardly anyone recruited Tonga, including the team who originally signed him out of HS.
What kills the most about the loss of some of these players is the fact they are going to teams we will directly competing against on the field. Its one thing losing out to a Boise State or BYU, but losing out to UW and USC really sucks!!!!
The best comparison for this Class I can think of is America Pie, You think you going to lose your virginity to the smoking hot exchange student, but blow your load early and end up having to settle for the Band Camp girl. There is still a little excitement for losing for virginity but you don’t brag to your friends about it and you alway wonder what could have been.
OSU flirted with some hot chicks (shelton, young, wallace..etc) but ended up blowing it load early (letting Heyward go and not quickly replacing him). At the end of the day ended up with the Band Camp Chick (great OL class, flash RB, decent CB, but no DT, no speed at LB..etc)
That’s a funny analogy. That band camp girl was dorky hot, though.
And she had more experience than anyone knew… you know… because… this one time, at band camp….
True and she aged well, Lilly from How I Met your Mother. Lets hope this class will age well
I was going to use a similiar analogy but not getting the close at the end.
It’s like you talk to the girl at the party the whole night laughing, joking, flirting, and then when you go to take a piss you come back out to find out she has left with the asshole kid from the rich part of town.
given the fact that we lost to sac st, this class is better than going home alone
i don’t remember an asshole licking scene in American Pie. Maybe the new movie coming out this year will have that.
I’m pretty sure the Asshole licking scene you’re thinking of is from a similarly titled American Creampie.
Its all about depth….and I’m seeing only one decent guy at each position. The defense looks like shit, so the strategy willl have to be like what we saw in 06-08, keep the ball on offense, run the clock, take 10+ plays to score and hope you can get a field goal at the end of the game to win. The O-line, and receivers look OK, everywhere else, one guy gets hurt (knock on wood, Chris Brown), and our whole scheme goes out the window.
every time I see that name I just think of Rihanna’s ex. he needs a name change.
Funny… every time I see name, I’m in the way-back machine wondering how Colorado lost him to us.
RT Angie Machado @AngieMachado1
Just touched base with Corvallis HS WR Blair Cavanaugh who is walking on at OSU. He’s not big, but is one tough kid.
This kid at best is D2 talent. Why do we allow these walk-ons?
it is not like we are at the limit for walk ons. Every coaches son could walk on for all I care.
Whopee! Another coaches son, but one that no one recruited takes up one of our walk on slots.
How many Cavanaugh kids are there? Taylor played for us, Connor played for PSU, now Blair. They are tough kids for sure though.
Whoa! I thought it was Cav… not Kav.
And if the Cav walk-on performs like the Kav walk-on did, then he’ll be a great fit and a productive walk-on. TK left a great legacy at OSU and continues to do us proud as an alum.
And now I’m reminded of the play where a penalty killed the fake FG.
shit, your right, the others were Kav but this kid is Cav. too bad…i would take another Kav as a walk on any day.
Riley does remind me a lot of Jim in the American Pie trilogy. Always getting himself into tough spots with dumb decisions.
7m kerry eggers @kerryeggers
Details OSU prospective DB coach still mulling offer. Beavs could know as early as Thursday on him.
hahaha, sounds like a pretty smart guy, he waiting for something better to come along becasue he knows its a shit job.
Perhaps he’s reluctant to sign on with a HC who’s future is questionable.
Ah crap, there I go again getting my hopes up.
Sounds like the mystery Dt will be a late sign Noke Tago…
The more the pac-12 changes, the more OSU remains the same. Riley’s motto last year was “live in a vacuum,” and they will continue to do so.
As they continue to have the same problems every year, they become less interesting to watch. As somebody else said above, “why do I let this team disappointment me every year?” Soon, people won’t.
I would counter that those fans are too fickle for college football then. Programs fall from grace and rise from the ashes every year. There are truly great programs where the universities and fan bases truly invest themselves that can sustain, but they are rare.
that’s a nice surprise. I had forgotten about him
A fast 100lb weakling who tackles opponents’ heads.
Okay, a little harsh, but definitely not a difference maker.
basically replaces that Sam McCaskill kid from Sheldon. Similar size and skills
No… Mafi’s faster and not an edge rusher. McCaskill will end up at 270# and retain his speed and quickness.
And Mafi’s 20 pounds lighter after spending two years putting on 45 pounds.
So riley didn’t see DT as a need, prioritized JC LB’s who could contribute immediately, and missed there too…
In a nutshell…….yes. Another great day in Beaverland!
RT Mike Riley @Coach_Riley
The newest member of Beaver Nation is Dyllon Mafi! A great addition!
Direct from Angie BB..
Angie: I just heard from my source in Samoa that Noke Tago will be faxing his LOI as soon as his mom is home from work. There you have it…real time update Oregonian readers
Let’s hope we hit the lottery! smh
Cool on Tago. Since it’s a position of need, and he will likely take a while to develop, I doubt he’s a grey shirt unless grades are an issue.
seth_prince Seth Prince
MT @AngieMachado1: Expect Oregon State to receive a LOI from DT Noke Tago later today. Waiting for mom to get home from work.
Just waiting on Isaac.
Tago and Hasiak would be later signings if they ever materialize?
No huge surprises today other than Payton to UCLA and Wallace to UW. I’d like for a surprise, even a minor one, to go our way for once.
Could Hasiak play DT?
I would say a huge surprise was how good Usc did late, and rumor has they may get Cyler Miles from UW too.
USC always does well late. They’re in it too much with the kids who want to play the hat game. And say what you want about how lousy a coach either Fink or Ogre are, those two can recruit with the best of them.
And they will intentionally commit secondary violations if they know it gets a prospect to sign. Then they’ll self-report these minor violations in order to get the NCAA’s “Ok… but don’t do it again” seal of approval. I’ve heard they intentionally set up a game day simulation for Zach Banner and others on their visit, among other things Fink does on a regular basis.
Pnbuker Paul Buker
RT @adamstatonsmith: @BrandonSprague @Pnbuker SEUMALO TO OSU! Thanks for live reporting from lil sis at CHS
Austin Blaylock, friend of Kenny Lawler is saying on Twitter he is getting offers today from several teams including at least 1 Pac 12 team. I wonder if those 2 will end up as a package deal somewhere? I could see Cal offering him just to get Lawler to go there. Anybody think OSU would play that game?
Last night he tweeted the following…
“Cal lost another commit!! And a WR at that lol doors may be opening!!”
Yes OSU would offer the guy. Lawler would get his friend a d1 scholie and then still commit to cal, we would be stuck holding the bag.
Haha. That’s how we roll.
Good lord! Buker has to have it smack him in the face before reality sets in?
Didn’t someone think out loud that KH leaving wouldn’t affect OSU’s CB class?
Does anyone know if Riley’s 2pm presser today only available on pay per view?
it appears it will be… however I just heard from Jon Warren, they will air it KEJO. So might be able to catch it on radio
OSUBeaversFB Beavers Football
Welcome To Beaver Nation: Stan Hasiak | OL | 6-4 | 295 | Kapolei, Hawaii (Kapolei/UCLA/Mt. San Antonio JC) #BeavsNLI12
Alright… that qualifies as a slight surprise.
Hopefully Hasiak is able to keep grades, that was his issue at UCLA. Otherwise its a waste of a ride.
Yea, I needed a feel good moment today, this is great.
Seumalo, Hasiak and Tago all sign
That’s a lot of poly beef.
Cliff Kirkpatrick @CliffGT
FavoritedFavorite · Close Open Details Here’s a surprise: Stan Hasiak | OL | 6-4 | 295 | Kapolei, Hawaii (Kapolei/UCLA/Mt. San Antonio JC) joins the Beavers.
Does this mean one of the O-line recruits plays D?
Mitchell was one of the top rated DT’s in the West. He’s rated just below the big three–McCarthy, Shittu and Solis. And he is really only a step below two of the three because of his size.
Yes, Mitchell as JB noted.
play him early cause he might not be around long, i.e. Glover
Offensively its been a great day. Addressed several needs with quality players. Defensively, today has been below average even for a Beaver team. Losing Heyward is a big part of that, but what have Banker and Riley been up to? Was Banker too busy flirting with Hawaii? Makes you wonder if the mystery db coach is waiting to see if we signed some decent talent to work with, and now that we haven’t, who would want to coach here?
mbb: This from the Denver Post as OSU and UO come to play the Buffs.
“The skinny: Colorado sits just a game behind conference leaders California (7-2) and Washington (7-2), and the Buffs look to remain unbeaten in Pac-12 home games with this week’s pair at the Coors Events Center.
Read more: CU, CSU and DU hoops eyeing the NCAA tournament with busy week – The Denver Post
very happy about the o-line… but what a lopsided class…
We don’t play D in the Pac-12 😉 Seriously though, this OL with Mannion and our WR’s and potentially our new running back.. we could seriously score points. Everyone has outscored us, that has been our issue the last 2 years. I am excited. The D I think will be fine.
OSU will have to put up a ton of points and try to make other teams play catch up. that way OSU’s D-line, averaging 265 lbs, can “pin its ears back”…OSU’s roster imbalance makes it sound likeon af many mid-major teams, some effective skill players, no D.
10+ plays, run the ball, field goal! — our mantra in two years.
Okay, feel a little bit better now. If we get Lawler this will be a very good Offensive haul. Its been a decent look at Safety, and maybe LB’s. Gundy mentioned that Zack Robinson, looks like a Safety but could very well end up like a tall big corner much like Brandin Hardon.
Hopefully more fluid and athletic than Hardin….please, not more of the same.
Dont worry the new DB coach with plenty of NFL exp will be able to turn him into pac112 all-american.
Poor choice of words by Gunderson.
OSU’s lack of emphasis on DT’s, particularly given the tragic loss of Fred Thompson, is astounding. With Fred’s passing, OSU started out in the hole, and didn’t even get back to level.
AND that’s not to suggest football is more important than life, but from a roster standpoint, not addressing that need is simply inexcusable.
I would hope Buker or Cliff will be asking Riley at the press conference if any of the OL recruits will be planning moving to DT .Hopefully at least 1 or 2 have the capability and desire to do so.
Someone said that we have 8-9 on the depth chart at DT. Not sure who they all are, but sounds like we are missing some info. Plus we did get Noke, so it sounds like we didn’t drop the ball here.
Think our O-line of last season. Imagine them more ineffective. That is our talent level you refer to.
To drop the ball we would have first picked it up. The lack of recruiting at that position the last four years is astounding…………in a very bad sense.
Bryan Fischer @BryanDFischer
Details RT @AP_Top25: NCAA puts Nebraska on 2 years’ probation, $38K fine; part of impermissible benefits case involving textbooks, school supplies
Kenny Walker switches from Cal to Ucla, does that mean Lawler to Cal or does he bail like everybody else?
Cyler Miles stayed at UW. Murphy now announcing could be Usc or Stanford.
Murphy stays with Stanford.
Oregon State has offered Marcos de Niza jr Priest Willis
We swing and whiff with this year’s corners, so why not offer one of the best from next year? You know he’s not coming here, Heyward already got to him.
(someone want to post this youtube for Priest Willis..not 100% on the embed code for Angrybeavs)
Paul Buker @Pnbuker
Details Cav’s kid (Corvallis HS WR) coming, too. Walk on. Great sense of humor. We need quotable guys to offset that starting quarterback
Gallows humor after he sees how shitty our defense is.
Of the Nine top OL recruits on the West Coast:
Wholly subjective. I’ll stack our OL recruits against any class for this year, and I think ours will be better than almost all. Only Stanford rivals ours, and there are a couple there who are highly rated despite some really bad habits. I suspect those habits will be coached away over time.
Stanford also is getting a kid from here whose dad is the O-line coach for the Vikings. Moved from N Carolina last summer. Good student and pretty athletic. Broke his leg and a few schools backed off. Legacy at Ohio State. Another great pickup for them.
Riley presser should be here if anybody wants to listen
Thank you for the link!
Riley must have been given the Vulcan death grip one too many times. He is delusional.
How many times has he said neat?
No impact recruits on D.
I think this young man is going to be a good one.
Can anyone explain why Rommel Mageo got a D1 offer?
Desperate times=desperate measures.
Okay, that’s what I thought. I just finished watching his film, and I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
Measurables and raw. Grey shirt material only so we can get him into spring ball before redshirting him.
Riley saying Zach Robinson will be “tried” at CB.
He is also saying that the only hole he didn’t fill today was at CB. No mention of DL.
I am starting to think he has hole in his head that needs filling…………….with some gray matter.
as well as Noland.
Riley just said in the press conference that the DL was not a need. So it sounds like the 8-9 depth at that position is accurate.
Just like our O-line last year was not a need. What color is the sky in your world Mike?
Did Riley just say his punter has NFL potential? Hahahhahahha
The one at La Tech!
My connection to the presser keeps dropping me, but heard Riley reply to direct question about lack of Defensive Line recruiting and Riley says “Defensive line is not a concern” Said something about last year’s class was as big as this year’s O-line class. we may add 1 in the near future (Noke Tago) but long story short, not an area of concern.
Riley thinks we got the top 2 prospects out of the state of Oregon. I agree on Seumalo, but Joel Skotke over Alex Balducci? Riley thinks Skotke could play at LB this year even and make an impact.
No mention of T. Tyner??
class of 2013
Future Duck, too.
Balducci is decent, but I would barely put him in the top fifteen in Oregon overall, and he likely wouldn’t make my top five for the Oregon 2012 Class. I would much rather have McCaskill than Balducci, and not just because he had a much better high school career against the same competition. Isaac, Skotte, Bafaro, Dunmore, McCaskill and Deeks (and in my mind JJ Fisher) are all better players as well as prospects.
I thought Balducci looked sooo much better than Skotte on film. Have you seen them in person? I mean, the film does not look close.
Balducci’s film? Do you have one of him actually doing something?
I saw Central Catholic play Jesuit last year, and I was impressed with a couple Jesuit linemen and backers (want Brenner!). But Balducci looked like Ben Motter, only on the high school level. The clear leaders of that defense were Dallin Leavitt and Thomas Brim-Edwards.
You mean 2 years ago, not this year. He was a much different player.
Nope. During OSU’s bye week I was up in Portland.
I’ve heard the same from friends with kids on the team at Thurston and Shelton as well. And they’re Duck fans who wanted to see better.
Thing I hate about Skotte is he plays stiff…no fluidity. I can just see him taking forever to stop/start on any edge runs. North/South he looks fine.
Skotte is not even close to Balducci and played in a conference that was weak. Balducci has been rated by every single source as the much better player. I saw him play against Jesuit and he was unstoppable.
That’s what I see on film, too. Guy looked like an uber aggressive playmaker. Typical Duck defender…high energy/intense and playmaker. Skotte looked like a typical Beaver. Average in most ways, not very fluid. Fine North/South but no lateral quickness or shifty hips.
We must have been watching from a different angle. I saw him occupied by one blocker on most plays and not pursuing the play when it went away from him. I’m pretty sure I could count the tackles he had in that game on less than one hand.
Not sure you want to go down the ‘weak conference’ path as a slight on Skotte.
Look, I’m not sold yet either but you can’t knock, or discount, a kid who was DPOY in 5A. And let’s not forget the competition he faced included a beatdown on Marist, one of the better 5A teams, and they won the 5A championship against Sherwood (last year’s 5A champs).
I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. He certainly wasn’t the worst kid with an offer from OSU.
I hate how Riley defers some specifics to Gundy. Isn’t it his job to know the basics of what he can and cannot say? “I’m not a technical guy” No shit!
Do you know Flo?
What do we think of Skotte, Riley seems very enthusiastic about him?
Jack Beav and others love him.
I hope you are not being literal, Sandusky and all.
Skotte is a throwback. He reminds me a lot of Marecic at Jesuit… another kid that killed me when OSU didn’t chase him hard. We got Michael Lamb and Ellis Burks from that Jesuit team, and Stanford takes a flier on Marecic on signing day.
And for those interested, the Kenny Lawler Variety Show will be airing at 3:00 on this station.
Today’s host will be…..none other than Kenny Lawler himself, with a musical performance by Kenny Lawler.
Kenny Lawler, the new Buster Keaton!
BTW, spare yourself the agony: he’s going to Cal.
Hey! I love Buster Keaton.
He’s a top 5 all-time comedian imo
He filmed a movie in Cottage Grove once. There’s a huge painting of the movie poster on a building down town.
They filmed part of the parade scene in Animal House down there too.
Riley mention anything about the ast coach?
He’s scheduled for an “in home” later this week.
keep in mind what I said about Riley’s alternate reality
lawler to cal
Lawler to…..CAL no surprise
Overall rating: B
Had an A class (for OSU) at one point. Pretty disappointing. Shelton and Wallace made all the difference. I think he made a bad career choice. He could have been on the field next year at OSU. WA signed a few solid DBs, including a 5-star. Ouch.
sounds like portland state is having a lot more fun today than we are, but they did lose olive
Speaking of which, Why did we not offer OSU Evil-O?
I would say they had B class but now its a C. Offensively, they did a good job, Brown and the OL highlight. The Safeties seem good, CB and DT were disappointments. The LB are average.
So, looking ahead:
Bays/ Samulo C
redshirt Andrews, Weintrich, Elderidge
Could we possibly move Juice to Center, Phillip to Guard and maybe Darryl Jackson or Gavin Andrews at tackle?
I’m already excited for that line. Certainly different than the “musical chairs” Riley and Co. played last year. I like the idea of moving Andrews back to center and having Philipp play guard opposite of Seumalo. I guess having that happen depends on who else looks like they can play the open position.
Lets hope the OL is good enough to hold-on for 5+ seconds so Manning can find some open receivers. Doesn’t matter how good a DB is….they can’t defend whole field forever. Just trying to be optimistic.
Eli or Peyton? I think their eligibility is exhausted. I hope MR didn’t spend any time recruiting them. JB
Peyton is going to grad school.
Actually, if this O line stays healthy they could key a pretty good offense. Of course that would require not only holding off the pass rush for 5+seconds but opening some running lanes, which I think they can do. With a little variety in play calling (A MUST) and some two back sets the Beavs have the talent at skill positions to do well. Maybe we’ll even see some strong “up the gut” plays which can be counted on for 3-4 yds almost anytime.
Does anyone else think with all MR’s comments about DL not being a concern that he may be thinking 3-4? I know he said after the season that no changes in schemes were needed, but…….
Here’s a question: how will our offensive line fare come this fall?
I mentioned this on another thread. I think it will be significantly improved (and as a result our whole offense will greatly improve). Seaumalo and Hasiak could be immediate starters, and we’ll have Philipp back after finally getting surgery on his bum knee (I’ve heard his rehab is going well). All three of those guys are 4-5 star recruits. Josh Andrews should also be back at full strength after an injury. Last year we had 3/5 starters who were walk-ons starting and the year before we had four walk-ons starting. Hopefully everything comes together, but I think simply getting new players on the line should automatically improve the line from last year.
Noke Toga is in
Finally! Someone in the DL box.
I expect Mitchell to go there too.
“toga. toga, toga.” I can almost hear Belushi.
they can’t defend whole field forever
This works against us. Stanford is going to come with another QB, and Poyer and mismatched RR are going to have to try and hold on for what will seem like forever until the DE’s will get near him. Note that DT support will be very limited.
Average class only for Riley. Change at snails pace seems to still be the motto. We need to shake things up with our identity. Nice guy Riley isn’t getting us to the big bowls with his slow and steady approach and he has had 11+ years already. Without some shaking up we will remain an afterthought. This casual plodding along and any bowl is dandy attitude is why many are cancelling season tickets. A fresh start has to be better than 6-8 more years of Riley. Nowhere do you get 15+ years to make a Holiday Bowl.
You mean the Alamo Bowl now. The Holiday bowl wouldn’t even be good enough, as it’s now the third place bowl for the Pac 12. We spent four years going to the third place bowl in the conference (or getting passed over for it because we had been there the year before).
I know. I am just giving Riley the ole OSU beneift of the doubt and it would be nice to actually make it to San Diego in the next couple years. Beyond that Riley should be canned IMO. Can’t do even that in 13 years then it is time to move on and not waste another year before it turns into another decade.
Going back to work now….carry on.
Coach_Riley: Noke Tago is officially a Beaver, our 2nd signee from Samoa today! #GoBeavs #BeavsNLI12
I’m seeing Seth Jacobs is still uncommitted. Any word on him? Haven’t had a chance to following the days happenings, putting out fires at work with my own piss. What’s the good word no Jacobs??
Really early on he was interested in the Beavs. Not much interest now. Not sure why he hasn’t signed…I figured he’d go to Cal. Maybe with the upheaval he’s waiting.
he’s coming up shortly its between Oklahoma, Ucla, and Arkansas I think.
What position does he play?
Word is that 2-3 of this class will grey shirt in addition to the kicker…(Mageo?)
Mageo and Owens are for sure. Probably Tago also.
Any of the eight 2 star players or the NR Tago could and maybe should greyshirt.
When you stand back and look at how many of the 2 star players we signed compared to USC, Oregon, Stanford and UcLA, you have to wonder if the future is really on the upswing. The analysts on ESPNU just said that the players that will sign next year are only looking at what the teams have done during the last 2 years. 17 year olds have very short term memory. If so, our losing record does not bode well for next year. The bottom line is the best kids want to win over everything else.
Now I have to go to this stupid recruiting dinner to celebrate this 1oth and 11th ranked pac12 class. Ugh, I got so excited last week that this would be a different year, and
Anybody else get the standard season ticket renewal e-mail today?
any takers? price went up a little for the upper level season tix, but that’s because of the extra game. Still figure at $330 for a pair for the season, it’s not a bad deal, especially with this being a home Civil War year and Wisconsin coming to town.
Last year the Oregonian did a piece on the price of season tickets purchased up from from OSU vs just going to Craigs list. The surprising outcome was that you could have attended every OSU home game with a reserved seat ticket for a total of $69. Also you did not need to make a donation.
So, this year with Wisconsin and Oregon at home, I bet you can score tickets on Craig’s List for about $169. Something to think about and if it is a pouring rainstorm and the game is on TV, you can pass.
You can go to Craigs List but you better know who you’re buying from. I got ripped off buying civil war tix only to find out they had been reported stolen and were invalid.
The good news is the game wasn’t sold out and I ended up getting better seats for a damn low price, including the amount I lost. Regardless, I won’t be doing that again.
Why didn’t you get your tickets from OSU, we turned back over 300 on Tuesday of game week? Then you could have been in the OSU section. We had one of the smallest turnouts for a Civil War in Eugene that I can remember.
Why didn’t I get my fix from osu?
I was denied when I initially requested them because my donation level was under their minimum threshold, like $5000 I think. Same thing for the Wisconsin game. Also, I had no idea tix were turned back… Wasn’t notified or even knew to check this sort of thing. You would think osu would notify people who had requested tix and had money in hand. Beaver fail.
…and right on cue we get the email request to renew our football season tickets and to donate to BASF. I guess that makes sense, capitalizing on people’s minds being back on football, if only for a day.
I’m torn as to what I’m going to do with my BASF level this year. It all depends on if you want to donate based on last year’s performance, or are you donating in anticipation of next year’s performance?
Do you expect anything different next year? Maybe 4 or 5 wins? Would that change the amount that you donate? If you expect 9-10 wins then increase your donation. BDC needs your money so he can attend all of those AD conventions.
Ask Jack for guidance. JB
Say “ohm” a lot, or something like that.
Have you guys heard anything on Ashton Henderson? And also, where to watch the Jacobs announcement?
Here’s an updated list after the day’s happenings:
LB – Cade Cowdin ***
S – Cyril Noland ***
RB – Chris Brown ***
C – Grant Bays ***
S – Kendall Hill **
OLB – Zack Robinson ***
ILB – Joel Skotte ***
OLB – Caleb Saulo ***
TE – Dustin Stanton ***
TE – Caleb Smith ****
QB – Brent VanderVeen ***
OT – Garrett Weinreich ***
WR – Malik Gilmore ***
OG – Chase Eldredge **
OT – Gavin Andrews ***
CB – Tyler Hasty ***
C/DT – Josh Mitchell ***
S – Chris Miller ***
OLB – Dyllon Mafi *
OT – Stan Hasiak ***
OG – Isaac Seumalo ****
DT – Noke Tago *
DE/MLB – Rommel Mageo *
K – Garrett Owens **
OLB – Seth Jacobs **** (Announcing at 6:30 PM Pacific on NSD)
DT – Ashton Henderson ***
Damn, looks like Jacobs has crossed us off before he even announces.
Who is on his list?
Colorado, Arkansas, and Oklahoma State
ESPN reports new recruits to UCLA, Stanford and UW. They keep going while we go to sleep!
UW gets a 4 star CB named Brandon Beaver. How the hell did we not get this guy.
so UW, signed 5 who can play CB on this class. You would think this has figured in the decision making process of Cleveland Wallace
Its usually not worth following if the guy is annoucing his decision in some media even on signing dayt- those guys always go to the flashier schools. I can’t remember ever getting one of those guys.
Yeah, but you might get to see them wearing something orange.
Sounds like this kid has the potential to be trouble too. When I say too I’m thinking about the negative comments that were made about Mr. Lawler.
UCLA football: Stanley Hasiak ineligible, will likely transfer
Stanley Hasiak’s on-again, off-again football career at UCLA has hit another bump.
Hasiak, a highly recruited offensive lineman as a high school senior in 2009, is academically ineligible and is expected to transfer to a community college, possibly Mt. San Antonio, according to a person in the program who was not authorized to speak publicly.
In two years at UCLA, Hasiak has been suspended twice for violating team rules as a freshman in 2009 and has failed to make grades twice. He was academically ineligible last fall.
Hasiak played in three games in 2009, but he was sent home briefly in November after some anger incidents, including a couple of fights during practice. As a senior at Kapolei (Hawaii) High School, he was the Rivals.com’s fourth-ranked guard in the nation.
Here’s another story.
UCLA football: Guard Stanley Hasiak sent home
December 21, 2009
UCLA offensive lineman Stanley Hasiak has been sent home to Hawaii for personal reasons and is not likely to return, according to a source in the Bruins’ football program.
Hasiak, a freshman, was one of the top recruits in the Bruins’ 2009 recruiting class. UCLA Coach Rick Neuheisel would not comment on the situation.
He was ranked fourth nationally as a guard by Rivals.com and was also recruited by USC, California, Michigan and Oregon, among others.
Hasiak, who is 6 feet 5, 318-pounds, has had trouble adjusting since coming to UCLA. He has had a series of confrontations with teammates during practices. He also has had a handful of off-the-field incidents, according to sources familiar with the program, including screaming at doctors and nurses while waiting for an X-ray at a hospital.
Hasiak played in the first two games, as a reserve, but was benched for Kansas State. He played briefly against California on Oct. 17, but injured an ankle. Hasiak took an indefinite leave of absence in late October, but returned, saying: “Just have to try to make things better for myself.”
yeah so? Who hasn’t yelled at a nurse waiting for X-Rays?
Gotta think (hope, maybe) that the situations with Lawler and Hasiak aren’t so similar. Both look to have academic issues but Hasiak has had some time to mature and resolve behavior issues and may benefit from the Poly community and overall “family” thing at OSU. Additionally, right now Hasiak fills a more glaring need and is thus a better gamble.
Then there is the distraction of Lawler’s dad.
Yeah, maybe it is mostly hope on my part,
Observers of the UCLA program suspected a chemical imbalance might have been the problem. Total speculation, but they said his outbursts were too irrational to simply be frustration or “just the way he is.” And they ruled out roids… supposedly because they dug into it.
I think Cav has done his homework on Stan. I won’t guarantee zero problems in the future, but i think something has been done to correct previous issues.
Perhaps he had PMS.
this needs to be thumbs upped!
Sounds like a candidate for defensive tackle to me….
Chris Thomsen, former head coach at Abilene Christian who was hired in December by Todd Graham to be an assistant at Graham’s latest dream school, has found another dream school of his own.
They signed a bunch of JCs who will take time to gell as a team and had a bad recruiting year. They will be one of the few teams that we beat next year and maybe years to come. ASU is a mess.
ASU is a mess. But Thomsen was a helluva good coach at ACU. Now that Graham has lost his dream assistant, Sparky will be crying for those good old DE days.
I have faith in our offense due to the lack of use of Walk-on OL!!! Otherwise, our Defense will struggle again if changes aren’t made to adapt to NOT being able to have 2 down DT’s on the field at one time. Meaning, go to a 3-4 or a 3-3-5.
Other than that…nice to see we have more than 1 TE that signed that have future potentials. 🙂 GO BEAVS!!!
Seth Jacobs to OK State. :/
Ashton Henderson went to Arkansas Pine-Bluff
I’m glad we’re losing recruits to them now.
A couple good quotes from Isaac:
Sounds like he didn’t like the looks of the ghetto around SC.
On what he said to other possible Beavs, ““I couldn’t force them one way or another, I’d just tell them that, ‘you play with me and we’re going to win games.’ ” Gotta love that attitude!!
Before signing day it should be all hands on deck. Waiting to sign a db coach until after signing day is like interviewing for firefighters after fire season. It makes no sense. A potential assistant that would wait until after signing day to make up his mind is not a team player and has no stomach for the toughest part of the job. While coach Riley is probably a very decent guy, his penchant for spin is very disappointing. Be honest, tell the truth. We can handle it and would respect you more. Bielsa doesn’t always win. He doesn’t often have the best talent. But he pays strict attention to details. He is a master of communicating strategy. He and his teams always fights like warriors to the bitter end. He is brutally honest, and his players and fans would run thru a wall for him. All I ask is to fight the good fight and I will have your back, regardless of the results. I can see these traits in coaches Casey and Rueck and perhaps a little bit in Robinson.
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