Originally this thread was about Scott Barnes. Now we’re hearing he’s not coming.
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What do we know about this guy? Apparently he is the new AD, per this source.
They mention he’s from the PNW and was at Utah State (guess he knows GA well). Is he actually good? What evidence is there?
Yet another Utah State connection? I have no idea if Mr. Barnes is good at what he does but this is getting a bit weird.
Guess GA wasn’t kidding when he said he was “getting the band back together”
don’t know anything, but I’m damned tired of shoveling 12 inches and still falling snow in Bend.
Don’t have a heart attack, buy a snow blower off craigslist.
My dad used it as an excuse to buy a 4wd utility quad and a snow blade for it.
Flamethrowers… good for weeding in the summer and snow removal in the winter.
OT, RIP Jason Seaver
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/arts/television/alan-thicke-growing-pains-dies.html?_r=0
Those tax relief hotline commercials will never be the same :(
Barnes has refuted the claim.
https://twitter.com/mcmurphyespn/status/809231857959260162
Hmm first 2 things I read about him were bad. Lied to his current school saying he wasn’t leaving, and he is no stranger to conflicts of interest and cronyism.
http://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2016/12/14/scott-barnes-leaving-pitt/
I don’t know anything about the guy, but from the looks of the comments on another site, Pitt fans don’t like him at all.
Are the comments new b/c he might be leaving or old? If old that’s concerning. His face makes me want to punch him. Looks shady. Not a fan of his face.
He’s not coming
Good.
Thats what she said.
Technically, he said he hasn’t taken the job, but that doesn’t mean he won’t be taking the job. I don’t think something like that gets leaked unless it’s going to happen.
Thread changed to “General AD talk”
Sedge is still reporting he’s coming.
So, what was the final tally on JC signing day? Seems to have been underwhelming after all the hype.
That was a good haul. No reason to be down about it. See previous thread for many reasons why….
It was a pretty good start! Got a beast for the DL that ranked last in the league stats, beating out the SEC for his plege. Got huge Top 100 OL who should be able to come in and contribute immediately. Another Top 50 JC QB who should help a team that played three of them last season. Got two outstanding WR’s who will be here for Spring ball. One a 4star tall wideout 6’3″ that will bring size and physicality we have been desperate for. The other one is a 3star playmaker who will could be that big play athlete that we need now that Bolden has finally moved on. So that is good start.
Now we didn’t get everybody we wanted, most notably a DB with experience. It sounds like we are still efforting for one to bring in. Lost out on the SEC to the ones we wanted, and one to the Big12. That was disappointing.
We still have the opportunity to sign a few more. The two notables are OL Jordan Agsaiva who is a Top 50 recruit, and sounds like he will make a decision between TCU and us within a few weeks. The other is George Moore who had been committed to WSU and choose to not sign with them today (so that is a win), but he probably won’t sign for awhile stating he wants more time to make a decision. He was recently offered by Purdue and has many programs after him. Get one of those it would be great, get both and its gravy.
Then there could be the DB replacement I noted earlier. Good, good start. Could’ve been and still could be great.
I think Agasiva will go Utah. His mom and dad seem heavily involved….they’ll want him close to home, etc.
If u want to read into his Twitter post he said committing to the university of blank which would be utah. Probably doesn’t mean anything but i thought we have a good chance with him.
Maybe it’s a red polo wrapped in grammer.
Obviously he was going to say he’s taking his talents to The University of Oregon State.
He wouldn’t be the first to do so.
I like how Iowa State is “out west” for the writer in that link. It’s halfway between him and Denver, which I would call the start of the West.
I wonder if this is a rumor begun to elicit a denial, which would validate the rumor through circular reasoning.
http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/Pitt/2016/12/14/Pitt-insiders-say-strong-possibility-athletic-director-Scott-Barnes-leaving-for-Oregon-State/stories/201612140250
The Pitt Athletic Department strategic plan for which Barnes was responsible:
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/pitt/genrel/auto_pdf/2015-16/misc_non_event/Plan.pdf
“Was responsible for” or claimed credit? One and a half years and he was able to tap into the Pitt culture to create this generic medicine “off patent”?
If this strategy was produced during his tenure and published with his approval, his employer should consider him responsible for it. How he claims credit, and distributes that credit, I don’t know. I just wanted to find a recent example of his work that should demonstrate how he thinks and how he prioritizes.
There is the chance that this product speaks more of the longer-tenured AD staff than Barnes himself.
Damn bureaucrats!
OT, Andersen’s “breakdown” of the players. What he says about Luton, combined with the impressive WR prospects and Andersen’s willingness to play young players, portends well for the offense. I hope there is genuine competition at the QB spot and McM gets a fair chance to earn it.
“As you go through the league, identify the league and understand the league, you have to get the ball downfield. I think he brings a component that we struggled with a year ago, as far as getting the ball downfield consistently. And it’s not just the quarterback, like I say all the time, it’s the offense.”
“The tweaks within the offense that we are looking to have as we move through this next offseason… it’s important that we stretch the field vertically and horizontally….
He’s a big, tall physical kid that will come in here – and he runs pretty well too, he’s not going to just stand there and get drilled. Again, creating competition – and we’ve got a lot of quality competition at that position – but we need to have that in the Pac-12…..
On possible change of offense with Luton:
“There needs to be a shift… and I’m not going to say a shift in the identity of the offense. We want to be known as a tough, physical, aggressive offense, no doubt, but we want to be able to do some things…
“Those are going to be tweaks that are easy to see visually before you snap the ball, but within the core of the offense there will be some adjustments and tweaks through personnel, because we expect to make more plays.””
http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2016/12/oregon_state_beavers_gary_ande.html#incart_2box
Its definitely important that McM gets a (well earned) legitimate shot to compete for that starting spot. It’s also important that people here accept that, if McM loses the starting gig to Luton in said competition, it isn’t some big coaching conspiracy to keep him off the field. McM runs better no doubt but if Luton is a better passer then that’s what the offense needs more. Nall and Pierce are plenty effective running the ball and I’d rather have a higher ceiling in the passing attack as well as a QB that won’t run around and take hits. McM seems to prove me wrong at every turn though so it will be interesting to see how it plays out
“He’s another kid that hung in the process very well. His coach was awesome, longtime coach – straight-shooter. When his kids commit, he buckles them down pretty tight as long as he feels good about where they’re committed to, and he did.”
“Jake has those Northwest ties, which was huge for us in this case. A lot of people wanted to come in and all-of-the-sudden be involved, but they didn’t have a chance to get in, because this is where he felt he fit.”
I had expected other programs to make offers and try to poach Luton and was actually a little concerned when nobody even tried. GA implies that they tried but got shut down before it even got to that point. Interesting.
Well then… you’re saying I shouldn’t propose a new locker facility with waterfalls for locker doors and Xboxes for furniture… and a tartan dam made of plaques bought with donations for the neat deals aforementioned?
And an airport!
Doesn’t everyone know that land value goes up when there’s an airport nearby?
Tartan Airport!
Powerful!
I believe a tartan tarmac has come up in previous discussions.
Tartan “The Terrace?”
Has a nice ring to it.
OT – Mizell with a summary of what sounds like a pretty good presser content-wise:
“The Beavers will start “spring” practice on Feb. 18, with the spring game set for March 18. This is significantly earlier than normal, even compared to when they started in early March in Andersen’s first season. But this timing, the coach said, allows for a six-week winter conditioning program beginning Jan. 9, then a nine-week program for the entire spring quarter. This also frees coaches up for recruiting during the important spring evaluation period in April and May. ”
This is an interesting change and we’ll see if it pays off in recruiting?
“Andersen also alluded that another Beavers assistant could soon be leaving for a promotion with another program.
“I suspect that there will be at least one more opportunity that comes to someone on our staff very, very soon that is well-deserved, too,” Andersen said. “We’ll see where the dust settles. I’m in support of the coaches, as long as they’re moving forward. If they move sideways, then I’m not in support of them. Brent (taking the San Jose State job)? I’m all in for that one.”
http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2016/12/oregon_state_will_begin_spring.html#incart_river_index
That’s so early…..at least they can practice inside instead of outside in that cold miserable rain we get in February and March. Let’s hope it pays off.
Lockett to OC the ducks, or have the hired one already?
They don’t need to reach at important assistant positions. They’ll throw a huge was of cash at a known coach just like they did at DC.
According to the published Academic Calendar, “…a nine-week program for the entire spring quarter.” is a bit misleading. Classes start 1-9-17 and end 3-17-17 with finals the following week.
So, the spring game on 3-18 is at the beginning of finals week.
Perhaps it would be better to have said, “spring practice will take place entirely within a single academic term”……the Winter (not Spring) term, BTW.
Aside from the possible recruiting advantage, it may be worthwhile to make this move to avoid having practice span an entire finals week and the first week of the following term.
Also the change in weight training and conditioning should pay off.
By next fall, this team will look little/nothing like the one left by Riley…not just in names, but in height, speed, size, strength…
Per his agreement with Casey, he has to have everything football wrapped up by spring term so Rutschman doesn’t have any distractions.
I kind of thought this might mean Baldwin to San Jose St. as the OC like some mentioned previously. I guess that could happen if he does not take offense to returning to a program that fired him as HC quite a few years ago.
I’m actually a little concerned TJ Woods is possibly going away. Boise State lost their OC,and it looks a little like TJ is checking things out there. Hope that’s not the case, cause I really think he did good things with our OL this year and we would really feel that loss.
Usc QB transfer Max Browne is headed to Pitt. Just adding that here since a few people had asked about him in the past
Anybody know anything about the mission kids from Andersen’s first cycle?
Jake Luton, future OSU sports psychologist?
Anybody hear this? I haven’t listened yet. Curious to see how he sounds.
http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2016/12/oregon_state_qb_jake_luton_dis.html#incart_river_mobileshort_index
Sounded to me like Jake has his head on straight. He is into the outdoors and the tough guy image GA is selling. Wants to have a way to stay around the game when he can no longer play, thus the thought of getting into sports psychology.
He wasn’t aware of GA’s dogs, has a labradoodle of his own ………don’t suppose that disqualifies him.
BTW, I noticed Jake is listed at 6’6″, that is 5″ taller than McM if the published info can be believed.
Some more recruiting stuff here: https://soundcloud.com/kxtg-the-bald-faced-truth/bft-interview-jake-luton
Nothing ground breaking, but some might find it interesting.
4-star Connor Wedington decommits from Washington. Sounds like to go to Stanford, but you never know.
Apparently that writer from yesterday, who was interpreting the rule around school’s announcing early highschool signers, was correct when he said he thought OSU was in violation.
If you look for any links to Gary Andersen’s press conference, or any link to information the school provided about the high school kids(Taylor and Hodgins), it’s all been removed.
http://static.osubeavers.com/custompages/17signingday/
Whoopsie!!! Time to self report to the NCAA…..
How serious is that?
Not serious, in that nothing has been reported about it or anything. I’m just a little suspicious, and GA did say that he expects to know soon if another member of his staff will be moving on to another job which would be considered a promotion over his current position.
Just realized i answered a question i though you were asking, rather than what you really asked about.
Regarding the violation, probably not too serious since they caught it early, and i’m guessing they will self report which is better than letting the NCAA come to you asking questions
Incorrect… well… incorrect in this sense…
https://twitter.com/ChrisKarpman/status/809145868351717376
If there was some other by-law, so be it. But what he posts right there explains in detail that there are no restrictions once a grant-in-aid is signed (assuming that was done). He’s irresponsible for not including 13.10.1, as there is an exception to 13.10.3 in that clause. But why the hell does he include 13.10.2.8? It has nothing to do with 13.10.3, and it has zero context without also posting 13.10.2 (and possibly 13.10.2.1-7).
So was he correct that there may have been a violation? That’s not what he said. He wrongly interpreted something that needed no interpretation, and he posted it for everyone to see.
Last year, Mike Riley himself had a couple PSAs with grants-in-aid signed, and he was on the recruiting trail talking about them and what they can bring to the bugeaters and all that by name. And he was completely within his right to do that. He was name-dropping to the media trying to re-recruit these kids because NU was not guaranteed their fealty without the NLIs being signed. The rule doesn’t say the kid has to first officially graduate before the school can do and say whatever the hell it wants to do or say with the kid. It says finances and an acceptance of enrollment must be set… then the school can do and say whatever the hell it wants to do or say with the kid.
There is now a whiny reality of which I was unaware previously… or thought was just whiny noise. So maybe “there are no restrictions” means something different now than when it was written. But that’s as close as I get to yielding to that post.
*two years ago… I guess time does fly when you’re having fun.
Goff is so overrated
At the moment he’s properly rated as trash. What Fran Tarkenton said about him was hilarious
What did he say?
“Watched Jared Goff play yesterday. I’m sure he’s a great kid – but he isn’t very good at quarterback. 1st round draft pick?!”
Hey CaliBeav: When will Mannion get a shot?
Many of the fan base wanted Mannion to get a shot before Goff. Now it’s hard to say with the firing of Fisher. Basically you have a team in complete disarray that is literally unwatchable. This will allow Goff to get a pass… Because of the Garbage wr, ol and running game , but I think the early assessments are probably right, he sure as hell doesn’t look like a #1 overall pick.
Seattle uniforms are hideous
Nike at work again…”Color Rush”…amazing the league and the teams accept products like that.
Bad situation for Beavergopher’s other team, entire team boycotting practice and possibly the Holiday Bowl.
Don’t know how much the University president and AD are paid but their gonna have to earn every penny in handling this.
http://www.startribune.com/gophers-football-players-plan-to-threaten-boycott-of-bowl-game/406928136/
More here: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bigten/2016/12/15/minnesota-players-threaten-to-boycott-bowl-game/95495810/
Sounds like it was handled. And the players involved didn’t like the end result and have staged a revolt. Sound familiar???
While none of us were there and know exactly what took place, even if a crime was not committed, the players may have violated a team code of conduct. Thus the reason for the suspension AFTER the university investigation was complete.
Minny AD hasn’t said one way or the other to my knowledge.
Did the 10 guys actually rape people? I mean is there DNA evidence, etc proving it? If so, these dudes are dicks.
there is a video someone took of this alleged “gangbang” at a party (try deadspin. I’m not gonna look it up). I don’t know the specifics but the DA decided there wasn’t enough evidence to press charges. Or something like that. I took that meaning that this so called encounter was consensual.
If anyone can find this video please share.
DA might be in bed (awful pun) with the Uni trying to protect them. I wouldn’t read much into his/her decision. Did the cops do a rape test kit etc? And what does the film show? That’s the only evidence that would matter in this type of case.
Film shows a lucid young lady who is laughing and at no time objects to young men plowing her (this is what’s being reported). From another article I read a few days ago, only 4 or 5 of the 10 players actually fucked her. The school suspended them before they had a title IX hearing, which is why the team is boycotting. It seems like this is similar to the Yale Basketball player from last year. He had consensual sex with a young lady who later decided she didn’t want to have sex with him and claimed she was raped after the fact. That kid was cleared by police but the school threw him out.
Either way….. participating in a gangbang and/or filming said gangbang probably violates a code of conduct painting the university and football program in a bad light.
Be careful dudes, there’s attention whores out there that have no problem attempting to ruin your life
Very true.
The 10 players were black. Anyone know if the girl was white or black?
From the USA Today report as printed in the Des Moines Register linked above:
“I’m gonna fuck all y’all”
I’ll take “things your mom said” for $500 Alex
Apparently this happened after the Beaver game. *zing*?
Threaten to pull their scholarships and see how they react. Will 120 players really walk? I doubt it.
Would sure make recruiting tough though! Imagine having to sign not 15-25 players or whatever the normal range is, and instead having to sign several tens of players.
Who would Holiday Bowl invite as a replacement? They ought to start sending out preliminary invites.
MN apparently gave away these underwear:
https://img.apmcdn.org/bdf1e2d0ae9e09978058d4ca18370db0c91b98e4/uncropped/f2b03b-20150903-affirmativeconsent01.jpg
Ooof. How old is that “Got Milk” campaign anyways, like 50 years?
those were skivvies not bras
Haha
Interesting. If I were Minnesota, I’d call their bluff. Don’t want to play? Fine, scholarship revoked and you’re off the team. Buh bye. We’ll take the guys that actually want to play. What a shit show going on up there.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18288753/minnesota-golden-gophers-players-boycotting-football-activities-suspensions-10-teammates
Hope they drag this thing out. Would be nice for the Beavs to start the season 3-0 next year in non-con games.
They should win that game either way.
Anybody else see Seattle’s punter run that fake? Was wide open amd made it clear down the field, but got excited and bobbled the ball at the end just prior to getting leveled. Looks injured now too.
Pete is a really shitty coach. I know his record doesn’t back that up, but he’s a dickhead who puts his players in harm’s way often for his own ego, and then he passes/plays soft in running situations. Weak.
It seems to me his biggest problem has been not effectively addressing the offensive line. Maybe they’ve tried and had injury problems (?), but they’re a good offensive line away from being a multi-year powerhouse. Their D keeps them in games, but their offense seems to have fits and starts, Wilson starts playing sandlot ball and can have hot streaks, but it’d be so much easier and efficient if they addressed the line.
Wtf are you talking about? Puts players in harms way for his own ego? You are losing your mind.
The guy who said Gary Andersen should be fired is now questioning my sanity. Good one.
Anyway, coaches who run up the score for ego are putting players in harms way, and he does it every chance he gets, and has since USC.
He’s also passive/weak. E.g. Last night everyone in the world knowing he should have handed the ball to Rawls for a 1 yard score, yet he passes (almost INT) and hands it to a slow FB. It’s his pattern since USC. He had Lynch, who bailed him out a lot. Jim Harbaugh, Gary Andersen (true tough coaches) are giving the RB the ball there, maybe 3 times.
At USC he also cheated then bailed on the team.
I know he has a great record and already acknowledged that, but I still think he’s shitty. You are just biased and love him — probably a seahawk fan. And I doubt you felt like that when he was at USC.
You have no idea how I felt when he was at USC (hint: rooted for USC to represent the PAC well whenever not playing OSU and thought he was great there too)….I love Pete’s coaching style and have since he was at USC. Build people up instead of tearing them down, that is the best way to do things in my view.
Oh gee, he isn’t tough because he sometimes passes the ball on the 1 yard line like 95% of the other coaches in the world (including Jim Harbaugh and Andersen BTW). You got me on that one.
Your opinion seems to come from hatred for USC.
And Andersen hasn’t proved anything yet. And to be clear (despite your nonsense), I never said he should be fired now, I said we didn’t need to give him 4 years. Big difference. And I admitted I overreacted weeks ago. I have the ability to change my view/admit I was wrong when more evidence is presented.
Shitty coaches don’t have the success he has had (in college or the NFL). Sorry but you are wrong.
And if you think he “runs up the score” in Seattle you clearly haven’t watched many games. The biggest gripe most Seahawks fans have is that he takes the foot off the gas too soon and every game is closer than it needs to be. Running up the score? You clearly haven’t ever actually watched a Seahawks game before last night.
I think he’s a shitty coach/human being.
End doesn’t always justify the means.
You’re conflating your argument about putting players in harm’s way (which may or may not have validity) with his overall coaching ability, where the ends don’t justify the means but do confirm that a majority of them are successful.
When it comes to running up the score, one of the coaches mentioned said to another mentioned, “What’s your deal?”
It happens sometimes.
Is it petty? Maybe? Maybe Carroll saw an opportunity to run that experiment with the P he wanted to run without it costing him a game, and now he has the info he needs. Maybe he doesn’t like Jim Fassel and decided to take it out on his son. Maybe he thinks he has some point differentials to make up for tie-break situations because of how he lost last week.
Who knows? What’s important to note from last night is that Seattle’s unis were absolutely shiny-butt-ugly.
For sure his results speak for themselves. The guy won two Nattys and Super Bowl. So I know criticizing him will sound stupid.
I saw him as Jets coach as a kid, and he was horrible when he didn’t have the recruiting or franchise advantages he has now. I view him as a shady guy who cheated at USC, lucked into Lynch/Sherman (and a great owner) in Seattle, and just isn’t that good but keeps landing in good spots. Like I’d love to see him rebuild an awful program or franchise. The one time I saw him in that situation, with the Jets, he was terrible. “Players coach who was soft” was the criticism in all the NY papers. Then seeing him cheat to victory at USC didn’t help him in my eyes. Sure, I’m biased from all that and just don’t like the guy. If he went into a job that was actually difficult and dominated I’d then have respect for him as a coach.
Belichick is a cheater too!!! Hate that slimy guy!!!
Don’t say natty.
Good point.
Pete Carroll looks like my Aunt Deb, an aging lesbian.
That would make him the first lesbian head coach in the pac-12. He blazed the trail for Aunt Patty.
What is it with these athletes and gangbangs? A girl isn’t enough anymore, you need to add some dicks to the mix? Is this an ego thing? Shits just gross. Period
Some women love the fantasy of being gang-banged by all the studs on a football team. The reality, not so much…
I made some syllogisms using your analogy.
Would you like to see them?
No one wants to see your anal-nothing
Again with the definitive words… all the time.
Does anyone have any old defensive play books lying around? I’m not getting my usual high number of job offers in this years coaching carousel? It seems like my vaunted ten points per game; triple option, double veer, wishbonehead offense isn’t in high demand. All the plums are going to “D” guys. How hard can that be? Any help is appreciated. JB
I think I do but I’ll want $75 in advance just for looking.
Perhaps your choice of some of my 90’s Beaver memorabilia will suffice?
Well not much going on here in the Twin Cities. Oh yeah, the Gopher Volleyball team made the Final Four for the second straight year. Bummer, lost to Stanford.
http://www.thedailygopher.com/2016/12/11/13910852/gopher-volleyball-is-headed-back-to-the-final-four.
And the lovely and talented Sarah Wilhite named national player of the year.
http://www.gophersports.com/sports/w-volley/spec-rel/121616aab.html
And the lovely and talented Paige Tapp won the CLASS award for athletics and academic excellence.
http://www.gophersports.com/sports/w-volley/spec-rel/121416aac.html
All good news back here. Pretty boring. Folks just talking about the cold snap coming.
#4 is a cutie.
She’s 6’1″ and would probably kick your ass
Who would have thought angry@angry suffers from White Knight Syndrome?
We need a sociological term for this kind of dumb and lazy retort. It’s not Newton’s Third, because while equally dumb, it’s not opposite. It’s just the same laziness, too dumb to know any different.
And once we decide upon that term, we can share it with the masses to make hasty and really shallow generalizations with it.
Note: For best results, the primary terminology can not contain a word that begins with a w. Remember that the masses aren’t moved by something hard to say. Acronyms with a w in them are the height of inefficiency, therefore, the masses might get bored halfway through the pronunciation of the letter w and wonder if they’re actually saving any energy or time. An easy point of reference is how any crime “drama” on TV will never verbally use the short-hand acronym GSW for gun shot wound because it would take two extra syllables to say it.
Oh… and it can’t be an acronym that makes me think about St. John’s wort either. Along those lines, no fun league would also not work. I think you get the idea.
We’ll just use the acronym NBC after each of Jack’s diatribes.
No Body Cares.
That would be NC if you’re talking about humans in general and you’re wanting to use the definitive, which is a completely rational thing to do.
Although, given we’re talking about really dumb stuff here, I think your suggestion would work well if not for the obvious dumbfuckery of the TV network already ruling that acronym. So we’ll go with NOCR instead. Nobody here cares about oncology… ever.
So tall athletic young women can’t be cute?
They can be very cute. We had a team with a lot them.
Can we talk about this and not football LOL.
Leavitt is going to fit in well at Oregon.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2010-01-09/sports/1001080281_1_jim-leavitt-coach-leavitt-usf-president-judy-genshaft
Good to see Mr. Hernandez’s tweet re wanting Mr. Agasiva to be a Beav.
They were team mates at Pima CC. http://pimaaztecs.com/sports/fball/2015-16/roster
Cutty Sark gets the Alabama OC job.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18294278/alabama-crimson-tide-hire-steve-sarkisian-new-offensive-coordinator
Another awful coach.
He’s probably #2 after Kiffen as worst retread.
Saban sure likes charity cases.
Great, just when I ran out of popcorn.
I dare anyone to watch more than ten minutes of basketball. Down to Long Beach 10-6 after ten minutes. Un freaking believable!
Per Eggers tweet
Oregon State F Keondre Dew suspended indefinitely. It may be we’ve seen the last of “Mountain” in a Beaver uniform.
The BWBs could beat this team. Not even joking. Last year’s final four squad could steamroll ’em
3 and 8.
I think many of us thought things would be the opposite and we’d be nearly half way to 20 wins.
Yeah, I don’t get it. Even with the players they have they should be around 7-4 against this competition. Right now, I’m trying to figure out where any P-12 wins are going to come from? Maybe something clicks when Tres is back, but the huge recruiting misses with Dew and Stacy have set the team back. Also, STj is getting exposed on defense without GP-2 and Duvivier out there. I can’t believe we are looking at a 6 or 7 win season if they get a couple of upsets in league play.
They’re just going to stink this year. Not much we can do but wait for Tinkle to get healthy. They might get a few wins then, but this is like an 8 win team max, and that’s probably optimistic.
Does it give you any pause regarding Wanye Tinkle or do you consider this season an aberration because of the injuries? I don’t know who recruited/evaluated Stacy and Dew, but that needs to be addressed, neither look anywhere near D-1 ready.
I thought this season could go either way with Payton leaving and not having a defender like that to step in…it went the wrong way. So I’m not overly surprised. Maybe a little that they’re losing OOC. I think Tinkle will be good moving forward, so long as his heart is still in it and his son is in the program. Seasons like this are hard on coaches, tho. A little worried he’s going to lose the passion. I haven’t watched the games. Are his pits still sweaty? Does he have the CR sour puss face? If his pits are sweaty he’s into it.
WT seems pretty calm to me compared to the previous two seasons, almost an “is what it is” demeanor.. Others may have a different opinion. You can’t see him on TV at the home games anymore (I don’t like the new camera angle).
I thought it was weird that he interviewed for Stanford. I can understand needing a ego stroke, but was he really going to leave Tres or take him with? I think it’s a little unusual with WT because the best players are going to be sons of coaches for the next few years. I think he needs to be judged on the other players he recruits into the program over time.
You can go back and read all the comments directed at CR with a program beyond piss poor, a mandate to keep a bad news bunch of misfits and half the shoe moguls in the AAU biz against him.
And then you can compare those extraordinarily reasonable comments to the completely unwarranted dismantling of Tinkle’s character based on parameters not associated with anything regarding him or the program at large.
It’s just a sad portrait of who some of us are that Tinks is treated as he is.
Back to the Gophers boycott story, some say the HC could lose his job for supporting the boycott, ya think?
Claeys was a darling after taking over for the HC who resigned mid-season for heath reasons, not so much now. Some say, “his decision to tweet his support of the players’ boycott looks downright stupid.”
Links to both the schools and the police departments reports on their investigations are found by following the TV station link in the story.
http://www.twincities.com/2016/12/16/john-shipley-gophers-football-boycott-brings-athletics-department-to-crossroad/
According to the University of Minnesota’s Office of Equal Opportunity and Affirmative Action report, which was obtained by KSTP-TV in Minneapolis on Friday, violations were broken down into three categories: sexual harassment; sexual assault, stalking and relationship violence; and student conduct code, Section IV.
Four of the 10 suspended players were deemed to have violated the school’s sexual-assault provision, while eight were deemed to have violated the sexual-harassment policy. All 10 were deemed to have violated the student conduct code.
What was that I mentioned yesterday? Violation of code of conduct. You signed it, good luck with your little boycott. If I were the holiday bowl I’d be trying to get NIU to replace them ASAP.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18294618/minnesota-eric-kaler-says-player-suspensions-alleged-gang-rape-based-university-values
The President creates a moral hazard if they give into the players. They can’t for that reason alone. Any time the players didn’t like a situation they’d threaten boycott. If the players are innocent, they should sue the University for tarnishing their names.
Everybody thought this issue was over and done with. No charges filed by the county attorney and a video that proved this all started consensually. The issue for the players is this came out of the blue with no warning from the AD and Prez, who is a dipshit in my opinion. Terrible management and leadership, which is SOP over there. Now it has turned into a political issue as much as anything.
Claeys was a total moron for tweeting anything. Kill at least was feared by the players and seemed to keep them on the straight and narrow.
Someone mentioned that filming the sexual act is a violation of student conduct which could get them suspended regardless of consent. I don’t know how any of it works though. Quite the shitshow either way
I would love to see the code of conduct that mentions sex tapes
No you wouldn’t. You would ridicule it as unnecessary.
I can’t think of a more fair, unbiased source than the office of equal opportunity and affirmative action. I’m sure none of their agents have underlying motives.
And the dept name is totally not an oxymoron.
The head of that group is a black women, Kimberly Hewitt, and she has been hostile to men’s athletics since day one. She is totally biased.
Here is the best summary of the disaster. This guy has been around forever and knows everybody.
For perspective, he has made a living out of mocking and criticizing the Gopher men’s athletic program. Unfortunately, his views usually have been vindicated.
http://www.startribune.com/clash-of-powerful-social-forces-or-maybe-a-feud-roil-u-waters/407164706/
Is the the angrygopher?
Sort of. He is actually a great writer when he wants to be.
That’s a lot naive. But it does give a good overall sense of how the naive perceive the world. He’s creating blanks that don’t exist and refusing to fill them in with what is known.
This and the ESPN link whiskey sources above paint a pretty bad picture despite Reusse’s inability to come to grips with reality. It’s important to note that Minnesota is a one-person consent state when it comes to recording. The only way anyone breaks the law is if nobody present knows the recording is occurring or if the tape is posted to any website for profit.
All of it sounds like she was mollied. The loss of memory… the compliance on tape and reportedly from the players, inconsistent as their stories were… the intermittent lucidity within a condition of feeling detached…. It happens to a lot of people, and even those who had it happen and had a friend or friends take good care of them and keep them safe from harm have a feeling of fear and depression after the event. I was one of those friends once, and I was scared shitless when my friend who I was caring for was just not there. She was conscious, coherent and compliant. But she wasn’t there, and I could tell.
And then I had to spend several hours explaining to emergency room personnel, police and friends that I was innocent and just trying to help a friend in need. That was fun. And as mildly violated as I felt at the time, my friend withdrew from social life and became almost agoraphobic. I got her to some group counseling sessions, and that’s where I heard all the same stories from all different people, men included. The scenario played out by these students is not at all unique. And law enforcement can’t do anything about something they can’t prove.
But I can tell you, without doubt, the worst of any of these situations are the bystanders who have zero clue about anything making snap judgments about anyone involved. So I would even hesitate to claim drugging even knowing it’s only found if law enforcement looks specifically for one of many that are available.
All that being said, even if it was consentual and legal, all the players who knew an underage PSA was involved should be summarily expelled. And I wouldn’t doubt law enforcement might still be involved with the child porn aspect. If that video was shared, anyone who has it will probably be prosecuted. The PSA being involved was unknown to me before reading about it. That alone would be grounds for firing any coach not named Pitino.
The players caved. They’re still going to get their assed handed to them by Wazzu
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18297065/minnesota-golden-gophers-football-team-ends-boycott-prepare-holiday-bowl
“Dear Mr. Saban…. I would like to join your staff as an “offensive analyst” I too was unjustifiably fired from a head coaching position.
In addition, as seems to be a requirement, I have personal issues. I smoked a cigarette when I was twelve, have incurred library fines and pee in the shower.”
MHelfrich Eugene, OR
” and one time during a press conference I smiled and told a joke. I immediately regretted my decision, as I have the personality of a wet blanket………I would say it’s similar to your personality.”
FYI, Ula Tolutau will announce today at noon(pst) where he plans to play next year.
Been quiet in relation to OSU, so likely to be BYU or Utah, but worth watching, just in case
FWIW
Back from LDS mission, former East High star RB Ula Tolutau to choose among BYU, Utah, USU and Oregon State
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865667775/Back-from-LDS-mission-former-East-High-star-RB-Ula-Tolutau-to-choose-among-BYU-Utah-USU-and.html
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Tolutau told the Deseret News that a combination of Andersen not being there and some uncertainty about qualifying academically are the reasons he’s now looking elsewhere.
As he ponders his next move, BYU, Utah, Utah State and Oregon State have emerged as front-runners for his services.
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Tolutau took an official visit to Utah in October and one to BYU as the Cougars played SUU Nov. 12. He wants to visit Utah State soon and said a trip to Oregon State would just come down to discussing it with Andersen.
Just curious why the big fuss over Ula Tolatau when he was rated so low as a senior heading to Wiscy?
Better than talking about the men’s basketball team?
His stats were fairly impressive out of high school, although not sure of his level of competition. He’s got good size at 6’1 230. I haven’t watched film of him to see how he runs.
We also find ourselves thin at RB, Nall is an Ox but has a history of never quiet being healthy. That leaves us with only 1 other proven RB in Pierce, with the departure of Lucas.
http://www.hudl.com/video/3/882755/5721adab0428ae20e493c6d2
Found some video from his junior year. Looks like he played fullback most from a double wing style offense which would provide for lots of rushing yards.
He looks faster than everyone else on the field, but doesn’t show much in the way of being shifty.
He also benefited from have what appeared to be a few maulers on his O-line.
I’m at work now and could only watch 2 minutes of his highlighys on my phone. Will be curious to see if he’s fat/out of shape from his mission.
He chose byu.
Likely means our top 2015 commit, Christian Folau, goes to BYU as well, after his mission.
TJ Green looks as good and bursts through the line on his hudl film. Hopefully he is ready to go next fall.
Perhaps we are nearing the end of Sitakes’ departure affecting our recruiting.
Yep, TJ Green will be the 3rd RB. He looks really good.
Gotta keep him. If we lose him I’d be concerned with RB depth.
Folau is Ula’s BFF. Folau will play in the NFL.
What would a Scott Barnes hire mean for Oregon State athletics? My guess is he will be 5-10% more Football focused which aligns well with Football being the economic engine and on the rise. Beaver Nation is excited about 2017 and beyond & best capitalizing on this should be a priority.
Men’s hoops is in a lull but should have chance at NIT again next year if recruits like Ethan Thompson are able to make key contributions.
OK with a Barnes hire if that is direction it goes. Have not heard many other names to be excited about so someone on board with Andersen’s vision of a Pac-12 contender in Football will at least keep that train rolling. With any luck football attendance will probably average around 41K next year which is a nice step up from this year’s meager numbers & important for getting the program energized for bigger things ahead.
I think the over/under is 14.5% more focus on football. I’m betting the under.
It would mean our vision for the future would be stuck in the status quo.
Ah haha looks like we’ve got your hoops team RIGHT where we want it now. I told my friend that Tinkle was a bad hire. Craig Robertson was building something and now it’s just coaches kids getting laid out by even the worst teams.
Totally man. That’s what I was sayin!
Yeah we should have gotten Calapari or coach K, I don’t know why they settled on Tinkle……
No airport for their planes to land.
Those 2 have helicopters, planes are for football coaches.
Dam straight!
Yeah, that Craig Robertson guy. Who was he?
He was black sheep.
Don’t worry. Someone will eventually get it.
much like you
Yay!!!
We have a cuckfest!!!!
“Craig Robertson was building something”
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
lol.
Not sure who Craig Robertson is, but he was probably building more than Craig Robinson
Not sure but I’m guessing he’s related to Mike Helfrich and Bernie Kent
He did get a practice facility built.
I don’t think that’s what he was talking about, though!
I know you’re a troll, but CR had 6 years and never made any progress on the court.
Tinkle will get his time, and if he’s not performing he’ll get the ax.
Ok, that twitter post above, with the girl who got her wisdom teeth pulled is awesome. #FTD.
that’s awesome. But she should heed her mothers advice
Matt Moore is having himself a game. 11/17 170 yards and 3 TDs.
Make that 236 passing yards and 4 tds.
Best “modern-era” Beaver QB in my opinion.
Hope he gets the Dolphins some playoff wins at least.
Or you could flip over to CSN and watch Golden St going balls deep without even a courtesy spit vs Portlan
135-90 final. Portlan alright lol
http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2016/12/portland_trail_blazers_at_golden_state_warriors_li.html#incart_river_home
Is DestinationCorvallis tweeter someone who posts here?
No, that asshole isn’t welcome here
But he’s such a nice asshole ?
Nice?
Like the town in France?
Thanks.
Just wondering…. why are his tweets showing up here? Don’t you guys get to select which tweets appear and which ones don’t appear?
Oh boy…
You’re surprised?
Am I missing something? If so please enlighten me.
DestinationCorvallis is a header name for the beaver recruiting twitter. Basically it’s the portion that can be changed. Remember a few weeks ago the #FTD posts, that was the name they used at that time. Everything that comes across the above twitter feed is either a post or a re-tweet from the beaver recruiting handle……..which is controlled by Nicebeaver and Angry…..or maybe just Nicebeaver.
Thanks BlackBandits. Now I see why that “asshole” isn’t welcome on this message board. :-)
Now as far as some of the cryptic DestinationCorvallis tweets………. some/many of them leaving me scratching my head and thinking WTF???
A lot of the cryptic stuff would make more sense if you had a twitter account. I dont……..for the same reasons I don’t have a facebook.
Which tweets were cryptic? I might have been drunken tweeting at some point, but for the most part i try to make them pretty steaight forward
I think he is seeing tweets that are reply’s to other tweets and not knowing the context.. Like listening to one side of a conversation, it can get confusing.
Oh yeah, in that case, you should be able to click on the tweet to have it opened up as part of the existing conversation, even if you dont have a twitter acct
Bo Pelini and Youngstown State beat Eastern Washington in the semis of the FCS tourny. 40-38.
great play on the game winning TD with no time left
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/12/17/13995634/ewu-youngstown-state-final-score-results-fcs-playoff-bracket-2016
That’s going to piss off the Cornhusker faithful.
Good. Fuck em
Go Vols!!!
I wouldn’t go so far as to root for the Vols. But at least they wear orange.
I wonder what wussy whiny cuck gave me a negative rating on that comment.
This is fun.
Anyone else listen to the Mike Macintyre interview the other morning with Clay Travis on fox sports radio? Macintryre hung up when asked if he’d been contacted by any SEC schools about potential head coaching jobs.
He did an interview about a month ago and was asked about moving to another school. He sounded adamant that he was staying at colorado for awhile, because his wife and kids loved it there. It sounded like he wasn’t chasing money, he just loves coaching and his family’s happiness and he was in it for the long haul. Who knows. And fuck the SEC.
Macintyre strikes me as a completely disingenuous and self-righteous ass-hole striving for his whiny brand of social justice.
He’s such a cuck.
NBC.
What about them?
I see they’re showing snowboarding right now.
Dunno about that, but he seems to firmly believe the team’s and his success are god’s doing. Given the record and the turn-around, who’s to argue? Still, I wonder if more practical factors might be involved.
More practical?
You can lose the more part.
Cucko Jacko
Cool!
Can you teach me how to do that? It looks complicated.
Hey everybody, this guy wants a sword-fight.
TIZZZZZZY!!!! YYIIIZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Shit FuCk!1!!
What a cuck.
Am I right?
you are
Nice ending in the Packer game.
Didn’t agasiva say he was going to announce this weekend?
He was supposed to discuss with family over the weekend and announce soon aftet
Did Tinkle actually watch Stacey play……with other players?
I’ve been asking that for the last seven threads!
He is horrible.
I continue to nag about calling a time out after a basket. Scoring after 10-minute drought and then a time-out? Doesn’t matter what team the Beavs are playing – they can’t keep up in transition or drive to the basket or rebound.
I noticed that as well.
This is Jay John territory.
I know, where are the wins going to come from? Wazzu at home when Tres is back? This team might finish 6-25, which I think was the John/Mouton record.
6-27
what am I thinking? can’t add today.
I also think 6 is generous with the conditioning and discipline we display.
They need to be running in practice… all practice long. That’s the first fundamental that needs to be addressed.
Caught the second half of the game. That was hard to watch and was one of the more hapless performances by an OSU basketball team that I think I’ve seen…well in quite a long time. McLaughlin had a decent game, but no one else could make a shot. OSU shot 14-50 overall, and if you take away McLaughlin’s 8 buckets, the rest of the team made 6 shots for the whole game. I continue to be amazed at college basketball players at the D-1 level who can’t at least make 70% on free throws. Thompson specifically. OSU was totally out-quicked at guard, and got beat off the dribble time and again. Of course, because they couldn’t make a shot, they gave the other team plenty of defensive rebounds. The RPI sites predict OSU to beat Kent State next, but after watching this game, I’m not so sure. Good lord, its going to be a long season.
Was busy this afternoon and forgot all about the game. OSU only had 4 players make a fucking FG???? Are you fucking kidding me???? Eubanks got owned by the UP 7 footer according to the box score??? Tough to win when you can’t hit the broadside of a barn. You know you suck when Matt Dahlen is fucking starting. What a shit show. Can’t wait for baseball season to get here.
It was a “shit show”. I got Sling TV, so I felt obligated to watch. This time they actually played good defense for most of the game (until when it really counted). I will get shit for this, but if STj is a top 100 college player, I don’t have much faith in the ratings experts. And you’re interpetation of the box score is correct, Eubanks was outplayed again. He holds on to the ball in the double team was too long and it disrupts the already suspect offense.
I KNEW WE would pound your sorry team. It’s a new era in Portland! No more being the worst team in Oregon. That title belongs to you punks! I had a feeling you were all due to get knocked down a few pegs, I told my friend this a few years ago.
Don’t forget, we did handle Southern Oregon at home! So there’s that.
*slow clap*
Oh man this Beav team is real bad. Can the assistant coaches pop out a couple more sons in time for next season?
Side note: It feels good to be able to say “When does football start?” again. Could 2017 finally be…gulp…the year of the Beaver?
Everyone blaming injuries for the dumpster fire that is MBB. Who the hell is hurt that could turn this around? Tres is the only player I know of, and we were losing with him.
Excellent point.
Turnovers and youth and turnovers…
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/256-sports/kerry-eggers/336833-216289-turnover-and-turnovers-make-for-slow-oregon-state-start
We’ll see how Tinkle coaches through this and earns his extension. I wouldn’t expect youth to be THIS much of a problem in basketball.
Poor fundamentals are the most to blame. The girls team should show them how to make an entry pass to the post. The youngest guy is the one arguably playing the best right now.
Might be a sound strategy. The young men would be more likely to pay attention to Sydney, Gabby, and the rest of the gals – ’cause I’m sure not convinced they’re paying attention to Coach Tinkle!
I think they are trying but they are bewildered. Often forgotten is that the players have had coaches from grade school on – all of them have done well in previous competition and now perhaps they are being told to do things counter to their previous experience – good or bad.
Looks like #TPB are having their own basketball struggles:
http://www.cornnation.com/2016/12/18/14000378/nebraska-huskers-basketball-gardner-webb-game-recap
Riley mindset permeating the program? #ChewTheGum
They have always stunk at basketball. Miles, the current coach, seemed to be a very good hire. Now it is all imploding. No facilities excuses. Brand new area and an expansive state of the art practice facility.
But with such a hip (hip hooray) nickname like Nebrasketball they must be good!
Thinking McDermott moves there?
Cooks had himself a very nice game:
“Brandin Cooks caught seven passes for a career-best 186 yards for the Saints (6-8), including touchdown plays of 65 and 45 yards .”
http://www.si.com/nfl/game/1635869
I wonder if his complaining about not being thrown to in whatever game that was, had anything to do with him being featured in this one.
According to “Juco Weekly.” North Plains Texas Junior College has the number #1 ranked team in the country.
Maybe it would be possible to do a wholesale 5 for 5 swap with the men’s team before the PAC-12 schedule starts next week. JB
Went to the game yesterday. Dont think you have to look much further than our team’s collective age. Most experienced starter is a sophomore. Our PG is a true freahman and shoots much more tham he distributes. Also add that STJ does not look like ge has his legs yet, and no Tinkle jr. Thats a ton of inexperience we’re putting out there. Give them a year amd I think this is a different team.
With how small bball rosters are it’s difficult to absorb 2 unplanned pgs leaving the team in the offseason.
They just lost too much last year. Obviously Payton, but even the guys you all hated (Shaft, Reid, LMW) provided seasoned support and either one of those cats could go off for 20 points any given game that Tinkle or Stevie were playing like freshmen.
Add in unplanned losses of Malcolm and Derek Bruce… That’s 6 of a predominately 9 man rotation.
We have 2 proven good players with Tinkle and Stevie, and 1 work in progress with a potential very high side in Drew. Tinkle is out for the the year, and Stevie doesn’t look like he’s 100% back from injury.
Can’t exactly make a trade or go grab someone out of the NBADL. And we aren’t Kentucky who can reload like that.
This year is going to suck. Lot of bad luck.
Isn’t the team fairly young? Made up mostly of Freshman and Sophomores?
Mississippi State opened a can of whup-ass on this OSU team earlier this season. They have 9 freshmen and 4 sophomores on a 15-man roster…so sometimes you can play well even if you are young.
Since when is Tinkle “out for the year”?
Jonathan Smith’s contract expires after this season with the Huskies as an OC. Anderson said he wants the new hire to be able to work with QB’s and to work with offense to manage the pace of the game. Just because we lost our WR coach, doesn’t mean we’re going to hire a new WR coach. Baldwin can take over the WR. He’s shown he’s perfectly capable of handling the WR’s.
Do we really want T.J. Woods and McGiven to be Co-Offensive Coordinators again? Or do we want to hire a new WR coach and put Baldwin back up in the booth and become predictable again?
Smith makes 480K. Nice try. Again