Wells is a pretty good pick up on the OL. Need to either develop or recruit OT’s. QB seems like the next biggest hole after that. Seems like, as usual, we’re missing on the priority targets.
He did. I assume seeing Arnold leave helped solidify his choice. That’s one thing we do have to offer is ability to play right away. Don’t think we have too many positions that are locked up.
He may want to come back but when I was on campus at the end of October, he had a brace on again after another surgery. Football staff person there indicate his latest injury could be career ending. I hope he can come back though.
That’s the thing. While we haven’t seen a large number of peeps in the portal…yet anyway, they’re all starters or played significant minutes and would start next year. Going to be rough to say the least. I’m not sure what the solution to QB will be. Green seemed like the most likely candidate given he was at a MW school, former HS teammate of Martinez, but I assume he was given good $ to go to Arkansas. Seems likely that we need to temper our expectations on a legitimate qb for this cycle and ride with BG and hopefully find one via HS for a few seasons later. Of course, they shouldn’t be a high recruit else they’ll leave anyway.
BG is a legitimate QB. We had our best record in a lot of years with him at the helm. I’m not really worried about him leading the team again, though the QB room is rather sparse right now; that’s a concern.
I was disappointed that BG didn’t get more playing time through the season, especially when we had a comfortable lead. But now I understand. Giving him playing time would have benefited the Beavs going forward, and Smith wasn’t going to do that.
The kid does nothing but win, and we do nothing but doubt him.
I understand the reasoning for what we just went through this last year, because I bought into it.
But now that the problem has left the building, I see the light. We need an in-game coach on the field who can make the requisite calls and plays to keep momentum in our favor, no matter how insignificant the play may seem.
Just getting the ball to players in space is the goal. We don’t need the next John Elway to do that.
Wins aren’t a QB stat. He was a good game manager, but his skill set limited what the offense was able to do and we were fortunate to have a run game and defense that made up for it.
Yes.
And think how fortunate every such QB would be, if we kept our focus on the conditions which exist when we have done well–running the ball, and playing solid or better D.
It always bothered me that a certain coach had to find our identity every year, because that’s our identity. It always has been our identity. If we don’t at least try to take it to the other team, we aren’t ourselves.
Every time Oregon State football has been successful, they took a workmanlike approach to football, instead of a flash-and-dash approach. Let everyone else chase that identity. We already have our own identity, and a part of it is a guy named Earthquake.
Wins absolutely are a QB stat. And a RB stat, and an OL stat, a WR stat, etc. BG makes everyone around him better. He’s dialed into the team. I’ll take that.
I was looking forward to the mobility of Green. Not a knock on BG but with how the o-line will need to be rebuilt, someone with some ability to escape and be a threat with their legs would help out tremendously. I do think BG has shown some ability to run but he’s not a true threat outside the designed plays and catching teams off-guard.
Sure, but it also helps to not have a sitting duck back there too. Not to mention, our RB room is absolutely thin. D Mart and Newell and scout team guys.
RB is needed. But we always seem to find them. We had some good RBs during the 28 years, as well.
What is needed in college football is someone who knows to throw to his check down as his first read, because he knows that’s where the play will end up, pre-snap. But he also has to look off the D, to create space for that player.
It doesn’t take a cannon to do this. It takes timing and proper positioning for what the D gives you.
If Aidan is 100% to Mich state then why hasn’t it been announced yet? What about the MAC player of the year from Toledo who is also in the portal and is a native of Detroit? Also some are still predicting Dante Moore goes to Mich st. Is Aidan gone for sure?
Also saw that one service said DJU was 100% to Louisville but Louisville just got a commit from old quack QB Tyler Shough today
There’s got to be 100+ QBs out there in free agency what a shit show
Remember JS and BL have a really bad track record of getting their guy at QB. Chiles seems most likely at this point because he already knows them and signed at OSU specifically for them.
I’m thinking we get a FCS transfer or a formerly 3-4 star recruit that wants playing time and hasn’t settled in at their current school.
For the record, Gunderson’s two other commits at UCLA were Luke Duncan (3-star from CA) and Karson Gordon (top TX track athlete that also happens to play QB).
Yes, those seem more likely than any of these top names. I’d assume that even Ty Thompson is going to see good $ even though he hasn’t played much. HS ranking alone likely gets him more than what we can/want to pay regardless of bis limited experience. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we just ride BG and bring in depth from JUCO or those types of players you mentioned. With our chances last year it made sense to swing at DJ but we’re back in a rebuild so I don’t know if they’re really prioritizing a top guy to come in when we’ve got BG…lots of other positions need to be worked on.
I don’t get why schools would bother paying guys that aren’t proven. Like I’m sure Ty Thompson has potential but why would a blue blood pay him big money? I’d grab like a Cam Ward then if Thompson plays well next year pay him at that point. If I was a top team I’d see no reason to even bother with QB HS recruits
Yeah, I assume that Cam gets a team to pay more than they would to Thomspon, but I think he’s still outside of our range…especially in a rebuilding year.
Good for us. But I’d like to see fall scholarships get retroactively revoked for kids that opt out before the end of the season (yes, bowls are still part of the season).
If you go into the portal your scholarship is essentially over after the current term ends. If you decide to withdraw from the portal the school is NOT required to give that scholarship back to you.
I’m thinking the Beavs are going to win the Sun Bowl. It will look like a good win on paper and maintain a top 20 ranking to end the year. ND core players are all heading out the door.
Don’t know if you were being sarcastic, but the Dallas placekicker last night is 30 for 30 this year, made a 60, 59, 45 and 50 last night. Never played football, was drafted first round MLS
Yeah, Hayes was shaky at best. Could kick it a mile but accuracy was definitely an issue. Sappington turned out to be super accurate this season but he also didn’t have many long attempts. Long of 48 but 0 attempts beyond 50
I didn’t see this comment and I asked the same question below. This team has a chance at the playoffs next year and with so many players leaving on offense could see a lot of opportunities. After years finally got a solid kicker and he leaves. Idk the market for kickers but I doubt he’ll go to a team that will be higher ranked than the Beavs.
It’ll be interesting to see how this starts to play out. The high $$ programs have mostly given up developing QBs. That means there’s not much point in high ranked QBs committing to these programs out of HS. They’ll have to go somewhere so that leaves the next tier of programs with a pretty nice talent pool of HS kids. But as soon as they develop and show progress they’ll get a bag thrown at them and they’ll be gone.
That’s the curse of increased money: it leads to increased pressure to win now.
That said, looking at that list there are plenty of nuanced stories there:
Quinn Ewers- just went to tOSU to take the money. Actually developed at UT.
Caleb Williams- went with Riley to USC. I’m sure OU offered plenty of money.
Sam Huard- just plain overrated out of HS
Brock Vandagriff- flat out beaten out by a walk-on and a younger guy. Overrated out of HS.
J.J. McCarthy- truly developed at Michigan
Kyle McCord- actually developed at tOSU for a few years and went 11-1, but HE chose to transfer
Ty Thompson- lost patience after losing out to portal QB’s. He probably has the most legitimate gripe on the list
Jake Garcia- never heard of him. He must just not have been good. Overrated out of HS.
Drake Maye- stuck around at his dream school and developed (I’m sure there was plenty of money involved)
Jaxson Dart- transferred after freshman year. Definitely “developed” at Ole Miss, not USC.
There are lots of examples of big schools grabbing QB’s developed elsewhere, but I wouldn’t say it’s the norm. Alabama, UGA, Michigan, PSU and more are all playing with their HS recruits.
Jake Garcia is an interesting story. Moved East during Covid so he could play. I hoped we would get him last time he was in the portal. Played for a big time high school with the shady coach that did the MTV show years ago.
You mean ‘Bishop Sycamore’? I got sucked into watching that on ESPN when it first hit as did my son. We kid each other about ‘whose coming out of Bishop Sycamore’ this year as a D1 prospect.
What Beavs really need at QB is a mature team-first guy with high football IQ that can see the field and process the game and make decisions quickly. He’s gotta have enough arm talent that he can get the ball to playmakers by finding and creating mismatches in a dynamic pro-style passing scheme with multiple checks/options at the line of scrimmage that makes it real hard for non-NFL defenders, in combination with a dominant running game and offensive line.
UW QB Dylan Morris is in the portal.
Funny how a few years ago he was a “can’t miss” prospect according to Andrew Nemec, but we haven’t really heard his name much the past 2 years.
from a UW source….”He’s no Penix”
Not having a schedule for ’24 released yet is killing us. Gotta believe that one of the first questions any recruit is asking is, “Who are you playing next year?”
Canzano had mentioned Virginia but I don’t see how that could happen unless UVA dumped a non-conf game. Utah does have an open date so they would seem more likely than Virginia
Isaac Streeter, writing for the Trib (wow, been a while since Trib showed up) looks at 4 options for Beav QB. He favors Taylen Green from Boise State.
He also mentions Gevani McCoy from Idaho.
Gevani McCoy is a very good QB. Like most FCS QBs who are good, he’ll be underrated and under recruited. Bray and his staff should be all over him imo. If they offer him, he’ll be the starter in 2024.
Sappington hitting the portal seems a little odd. He just solidified his starting spot this year on a potential playoff team next year. I don’t know where he would be looking to go. It’s not like if you kick for a blue blood it’s going to affect your draft status anymore than it would if you kicked amazing at an fcs team. The nfl will find you. The quality of your team doesn’t affect it unless you’re getting your kicks blocked. Luck O’ da Beavs we finally get a solid kicker after years and then he transfers.
It’s obvious he either wants to go where he can get a few more running opportunities and get touchdowns or he doesn’t like being the tackling dummy on trick plays that Cookus dreams up in his spare time.
lol. The frustrating part of that play was that is was a good play called at a terrible time. The play would’ve worked great on a 4th down with short distance and TIME STILL REMAINING.
You have to think about the schedule. If they have BG back they still have more talent ready to step up into their roles and be more talented than a lot of the teams they’ll play. Teams don’t always struggle with a coaching change. If they can play around the level they did this year that will win most games next year so I’d say it’s way too early to say that.
With our schedule ranked SOS#65 or so and a budget/talent rank around #50 we should be favored in 10 out of 12 games next year. To make playoff we will probably need to go 11-1 meaning we will need to go 2/3 over quacks/utes/boise and win all the rest. Probably as good of a chance next year as we had this year
People, we need to temper the expectations a bit. You have to remember how many people we’ll lose to graduation as well. We had 8 starters go to the portal. We lose close to that in seniors or underclassmen that are looking pro. We won’t be getting any help from recruiting class seeing we only have 7 HS recruits that haven’t formally decommitted.
Offense: unless I missed something, we’ll have 2 o-line starters (I’ll count Stark) and a potential 3rd. The portal guy from CO is give but your looking at a new coach and new scheme. BG at qb helps but he’s only been the starter in ’22 due to injuries and lack of depth. RB is Martinez and Newell and that’s it. New starting TE and Bolden is only returning WR starter. So half our offense will be new and our depth will be garbage. I wouldn’t count on portal or JUCO to supply us with the same talent we’re losing on either side of the ball.
Defense: Hodge and Golden are gone. Chatfield, McCarten, Arnold bros, Cooper, Robinson, Hart, McCoy, KO. We legitimately look to lose 9 guys on defense and our secondary is likely to include 2 guys returning from injury m, both of whom have missed all last season, and in Julian’s case, nearly 2 years off the field.
Sp Teams: at best we have Everett back but he’s a senior so not sure he had 1 more year or not. Otherwise, we have no kicker. I guess Green is back at punter?
Now, we’ll have to see the portal action but we are really looking at a situation where we only have around 7 returning starters. I don’t care if we play 6 Mtn West teams. Our roster is so young and inexperienced, new coaching staff, new scheme (even if it is similar to before) and don’t expect portal to provide. It won’t be very likely we get a bunch of P4 experienced starters coming over. We’ll get some guys to provide some depth or G5 and lower conferences.
Based on current depth chart, it would look something like this:
Offense
Gulbranson (not ideal, but okay)
Martinez/Newell (we’re fine)
Bolden/Valsin/Noga (The guys we lost were decent, but didn’t do a whole lot. Valsin and Noga have experience and seem serviceable. They both had over 100 snaps, which is more than Chiles)
Terry/Milbourn (not huge drop off here in blocking; Terry has potential as a receiver to be like Musgrave)
Strand/Starck/Wells/Miller/Morano (interior is really good, but OT’s are questionable…I wonder if Brewer can get a medical year?)
Defense
Lolohea/Collins/Seluni/Hickle
Stover/Jordan/Chisom/Tongue?
Julian/Kane/some combination of the young guys who filled in at CB
No standouts, but almost everyone has decent experience from this year. Collins, Chisom, and Morano would be the greenest. From a PFF rating standpoint, these are all guys that are at least in the 60-65 range where they’re average P12 starter quality (except Seluni). Some, like Hickle and Kane, did really well in somewhat limited time.
We need to add more talent at QB/WR/TE/OL and depth at DL/DB. We’re actually in decent shape how we stand today, though. It’s definitely not the same team as last year, but this is a bowl team and is good enough to get Riley another year on his contract.
Who said anything about expectations? I said potential I didn’t say I expect it. Our path to the playoffs is a lot easier than most schools so anything can happen.
My biggest concern with the new hires is DeVan. Gundy is a wildcard having not called plays before but Devan has coached olines plenty. I think Beav in Ohio or someone listed his previous stops and his olines performance ratings and they’re not good which has me worried if I remember this ratings correctly. I think Bray is going to be successful but his staff is going to decide that I think. Hopefully he won’t be a coach afraid to move on from guys if it isn’t working.
Yeah they were bad. The only possible redemption is he has only been somewhere longer than two years once and that was Ball State. Every other stop was part of a really bad HC tenure.
I’m not optimistic. He has a decade track record that isn’t good.
Unfortunately, I think this shows that TB’s coaching network is smaller than we want it to be. DeVan may prove us all wrong, but I’m not overly optimistic.
He’s been dropped into some bad situations after the last guy bailed. If all the o-line on our team graduates or leaves after next year, and Bray is fired, it will be the same situation.
The issue with NFL coaches coming to the college ranks isn’t the coaching aspect. It’s the recruiting side. Programs can’t usually afford to hire someone without that ability at these positions. So it’s hard for a position coach to break in that way. Usually they have to work into the position as a GA.
It’s the same with hoops. It’s why Musselman went and worked as an assistant at ASU for several years first, when he was clearly an able head coach.
What a miss that was. All because some idiots were making goo goo eyes at Howland, and then had to settle for on old guy seeing a rainbow in Missoula
Turnover happens fast in college football. If someone has four different stops where they had 2+ years at each and the results were uniformly bad, that’s not a good sign. Most programs can’t or won’t wait that long. OSU MBB is a major exception.
Hopefully the silver lining is that he’s a good recruiter and his personality, salesmanship, etc. is how he keeps getting these jobs.
What’s the rate of attrition? What’s the locker room situation?
Two years anywhere isn’t a sample large enough to gauge how well he develops HS recruits. So we can’t even talk about that, unless we have a sample that adds a third year, and the attrition was mitigated by new talent coming in and getting better.
It’s been 10 days since the scheduling announcement with the MW. Barnes needs to do whatever he can to speed up the process to get the full schedule out.
It is in every other teams best interest to slow walk the Beavs schedule announcement unfortunately. We a re now competing against the MWC for players and they are using it as another chip in the game… Luck of the Beavs gets in another kick to the gut.
Does anybody know if Brandon Huppert is the full time OLB coach under Bray? Or just the bowl game OLB coach?
I see he was tagged in this offer recently, and previously he was a defensive quality control analyst for OSU.
Huppert does have a coaching history, so it wouldn’t surprise me if he was the newly promoted, full-time OLB coach. Bray said last week that he’s got all his defensive coaches, just haven’t been announced. If that’s the case, if Huppert was still DQCA, he wouldn’t be talking to a recruit on the phone. It would be Bray, or one of the 10 assistant coaches.
How long until we hear all of these guys officially hired? I hope they’re recruiting their asses off in the meantime and that the current players know who these guys are.
They do convert certain guys from non contact positions to on field coaches when they’re in scenarios like we are now(short staffed with ongoing recruiting and a bowl game to coach for)
So there’s a chance he’s just interim OLB coach, but the fact that his profile page has a header listing him as the OLB coach makea me think it’s permanemt.
Mich st folks think Chiles and Velling are on campus now and will commit to them today. This is also finals week at OSU so I would assume they would have to take some finals to make grades? Do football players actually take finals anymore?
Well Chiles was for sure there this weekend. Not a stretch to assume he’s still there and I’m sure finals can be taken remotely or other accommodations can be arranged. Hadn’t seen Velling post anything but if they committed anywhere except MSU that would be a huge shock.
Excellent! We also don’t have much NIL and I think most our fans like our players? Based on his 2023 stats, I’d say hard pass. I guess we need some depth but dude threw for 11 td’s and had 11 picks. 2100 yds passing. Seems like our backups could do that much at the very least.
Not so much against the offer as it is the timing/optics. Why weren’t we all in on best in-state talent anyway? Now this gives the impression of desperation.
Optics. Why weren’t the Beavs all over this guy from the jump but only now when half our recruits have decommitted, etc is there any interest? He has decommitted from Idaho so it seems likely that he’ll be Beav.
While it sucks that we’re losing several 2024 commits to MSU, it’s not like we had one of our stronger classes in recent years. All of the Pac2 uncertainty was keeping our class somewhat limited, outside of the OLine.
So Michigan State can celebrate their new MW level recruiting class all they want. They’ll learn soon enough that they are basically building a G5 team, with a promising but inexperienced QB and solid TE. It will take some time before they’re competing at the level they expect.
OSU has 8 2024 commits temaining. “Of those eight, two have offers from Michigan State. Running back Brandon Tullis had an official visit to MSU last weekend.”
I thought we did have a good class with some great players at the top. Many rated around 90. Not a lot of commits but the ones we had were good ones. I figured that’s how recruiting was moving. Take small classes and then fill in from the portal.
Young and Stewart would hurt, because they fit in with who we’re supposed to be.
But I like the guys who come from the region and will run through a brick wall for OSU, not their coaches.
Kim is in HS what Fuaga is in college. I want that tree trunk of a person protecting my QB.
Sometimes I wonder if Jordan Poyer would have ended up a star at PSU, if he didn’t have that 5* game at Reser.
I thought Jake Reichle stood out this year, as well. He got a little over-excited a couple times, but he at least has the talent and time to be in those positions and learn to dial it back just a bit.
If there’s one thing I’ve learned over the years, It’s that HS production at any level is translatable to the college level, because that production comes from a good work ethic. Nobody who is a top athlete has ever not worked to become that top athlete. Give some of these kids a training table and some guidance, and they have consistently turned out more than gems.
This makes me want to go on another Terron Ward rant, but I don’t think I have the energy for that.
But seriously. How does the CIF rushing leader not get any offers, especially not one from us?
BYU for years sold their home game rights to ESPN. ESPN did all their home games except 1-AA games. BYU was paid $6 mil per year from 2011-2017. Then it was re-upped in 2018 for a new undisclosed fee, but likely close to $10 mil per year.
But since we actually own a network I don’t see why we would just let it die. There are many different sports and on top of that we own the rights to all of the pac 12’s old games that we could put on the air at anytime. Fuck ESPN just air all our games and WSUs games on the Pac 12 network
They’d need to offer it as it’s own stand alone streaming service. The problem the entire time has been access. Download the app on to your smart TV and launch the fuckin thing any time like Netflix or Disney.
The biggest part of this with our network- is that we can sell an app to view just pac12. No bundling, no Comcast/dish/direct tv, no YouTube tv or sling etc.. just pay $5 a month or whatever and have it.
Now with only 2 teams, not as cool. But that’s what is needed for every conference or nba/nfl
I’m pretty sure someone answered this question in bowels of this forum already but…. what happens with the players who enter the portal and don’t find a landing spot. We treat them like a new recruit correct? We decide if they get a scholarship or if we want them back on the team correct?
It is just so sad that we are at this point in college sports where it has come down to he with the most NIL money wins and player are all free agents who are looking first at how much money they can get. Don’t get me wrong, I get it and if my kid was in the middle of this I’d want him or her to benefit as much as possible too. But it is just all sad and breaks my heart to see where we are at now.
If they enter the ports they forfeit their scholarship. If
They want to return to the team, it is staff discretion to return the scholarship or let them be a “walk-on” to rejoin the team.
The sad thing is if you enter to check the fee agent market, you have declared your intentions to leave and the staff needs to operate on that assumption and then uses resources to find the replacement.
So only the high value targets (qbs) with a lot of tampering get an advantage by leaving. But a lot of guys hoping for better circumstances get lost in the shuffle and may not have a spot in a giant game of musical chairs where dozens of chairs are pulled at each possible landing spot.
Negative recruiting under the guise of NIL whispers/promises are certainly happening which creates a grass is greener mindset and a lot of these young guys take the bait and probably regret chasing the bag if it costs them a year or two of eligibility.
Bray needs to focus on finding great D2 skill players and FCS linemen who can make the jump up to P5, as well as blue blood transfers who want a change of scenery and need a second chance.
Nope. DJU is visiting FSU this week I think. I’m not sure what our interest would be in trying to bring him back to be honest. We’re in a rebuild. Not sure a 1 and done qb is helping us at all.
Until we have someone who can beat him out at QB, we should have our doors wide open to take DJU back, rebuild or not. Success breeds success. We want to win as many games as we can next year and increase our ability to recruit as well as media coverage.
DJ is chasing whatever bay BignDave can conjure up because he isn’t seeing an NFL roster and this is the end of his dreams to cash out on DJs high school legend.
Trust me I was extremely hopeful that DJ could be dramatically different in JS system but he has major accuracy issues on certain throws and doesn’t process the options well at all under duress. NFL guys will of course be fooled by his pro day results but any scout worth his pay will need to address the consistent drawbacks of his limitations.
Clemson saw it and we saw the same issues only from differing offenses.
Completely agree. There’s just no way he doesn’t get a shot and a team takes a flyer on him. Who knows maybe with nfl size wideouts he’ll be decent. His better path is probably in baseball at this point. He could probably make more and have a longer career unless he blows up somewhere this season. He should consider playing on the baseball team. Someone who can throw 95+ is always welcome.
I’m not saying “no” to it, think his presence in locker room and leadership would go a long way, but I’m sure he’s looking to get NIL money…how much is he worth to us in our position? Should we drop $750k – $1 mill? Would he bring us that many more wins than BG would? That’s what I’m measuring it against. If he is willing to come back and be regular player not getting the big, big NIL dollars then by all means, stick around.
I’m not sure about his “presence in the locker room and leadership”, especially after he left to look for greener pastures. You make a good point when you question how many more wins he might bring than BG.
As for baseball, wonder if he’s got the control and concentration required to harness that 95mph fastball.
Before it went behind paywall, Daschel announced the new hires and also said: Oregon State has three coaching positions left to fill, but all are in the works. The worst kept secret for defensive coordinator is Keith Hayward, who is expected to join the OSU staff sometime after the 2023 NFL season ends.
Mike Riley energy is exactly what we don’t need right now. This is such an underwhelming hire. We need guys with a chip on their shoulder, not the happy to be here and find our identity type.
I’m proud to be a part of this. I’m here to make this place all I think it can be. And I will not stop until it makes the most of all the opportunities I see in its future.
Exactly. Let’s not panic until we see what these guys produce. He might be an amazing play caller that is a little awkward who knows? He’s the big wildcard not having called plays yet.
He also coached with Brennan at SJSU prior to Chip.
I didnt watch them much but do remember he was there the year SJSU played the entire Covid schedule on the road and also went undefeated. That SJSU team had some players
Gundy was QB/PGC coach in McGiven’s offense at SJSU, ironically the same offense he ran when he was at OSU with GA, basically spread with an inside-zone run game and air-raid concept passing scheme. I hope they stick with something more pro-style.
On Insta or X? I’ve seen posts on X referring to him following some guys on Insta. I don’t have an account there to verify. Some really interesting stuff though if true and with the Dante Moore to MSU rumors. Portal watch is so wild
I can’t imagine Chiles going to MSU if Moore goes there or vice versa. I read somewhere that betonline just posted odds and MSU is the favorite to land Moore. Does Chiles return? Seems like a lot of the big schools have already picked up their QB.
This Ty Thompson stuff seems to be a little internally driven by the Beav fanbase. Saw one twitter site for a podcast whonis calling OSU the favorites to land him, but it’s a podcast run by Beaver fans. And the evidence seems to be “a handful of our players follow him on IG”
Sure, they may help speak it into existence, but at this point that seems to be the extent of things.
Give me Chiles back any day though.
I did see a screenshot that shows Ty liking the post that says he’s a frontrunner for Oregon State. Might amount to nothing, who knows with the portal, but definitely seems to be legitimate interest there. Moving sucks. Maybe he’d prefer moving 40 min north vs other options.
Can we trust a former Duck in the locker room during next season? I’m concerned that maybe he is getting a bag of money to be the final destruction of OSU straight from Nike headquarters.
Kind of in jest but kind of not…given the treachery that has already occurred.
Brandon Tullis, rb, decommits. I’d expect MSU commitment as he visited the other day. We need some serious RB help. Very thin and I think Newell is done after next year and D Mart will go pro, our RB room is all walk-ons if I’m not mistaken.
Grayson McCall committed to NCst, so that might explain Ty Thompson canceling the visit more than any interest in The Beavs, but who knows? I can’t see Dante Moore and Aidan Chiles both at MSU, that makes no sense. One is willing to be a backup for multiple seasons?
Could be. I do think there’s enough “smoke” to say Ty to OSU is more than just a fan movement but definitely far from a guarantee too. Might become more likely though as days drag on. Some of the other P4 schools are getting their QBs so if he wants a legitimate starting opportunity vs sitting on the bench, the window is starting to close up a bit. I’m sure that has to be our recruiting pitch for portal guys, outside of 3 or 4 spots, everything is up for grabs. In most years the “open competition” verbiage doesn’t really mean much but this year it means everything for anyone looking at OSU
QBs can get to the NFL from Group of Five programs (which is sort of what OSU is right now for better or worse). They just need the snaps, coaching, and of course skill. NFL scouts will find them. Chiles could have really shown his “stuff” by staying at OSU. I sort of hope they both land at MSU just to see how the pot-bellied gnome handles it. The x-factor is NIL money which we don’t have any true insight too, but even for a million, I’m not sitting on the bench with that skill!
Now that I think about it, this era is ending very soon because all those guys would have transferred elsewhere for NIL money. All were on very average college teams and none of them won anything.
Ty Thompson was a 4* commit and on the Ducks roster for 1-2 seasons(?), practicing their offense, but they again take an upper classmen transfer. No loyalty to a kid on their own roster…
3 seasons. They must not have liked what they saw in practice. His game highlights (all from garbage time) are not exactly inspiring. It’s hard to decipher much from that, though. He clearly has all the physical tools necessary.
‘Hey 5 star qb recruit, you should come wear sparkly outfits and sit on our sideline while we continuously rent a qb during your stay in eugene’ doesn’t sound like much of a recruiting pitch
We had at least 3 other official visitors since Friday, so could be any of them too.
I think we had 4 commitments as of 3 days ago, but Bray seems to be letting them be announced 1 day at a time
While I think it’s probably a long shot that Ty Thompson comes to OSU, it is interesting to see that before he committed to UO, apparently he was visiting places like Iowa State and Cal. Not exactly powerhouse programs. Maybe he would actually prefer a program like the one Bray is trying to build…
Any guesses? Seems like it is cryptic enough to get everyone hopeful and prepared for another Charlie Brown/Lucy sequence letdown… life as a Beav is difficult
It’s so much better to just drop some good news than to leak something about big news, have everybody get excited and then inevitably be let down when it doesn’t meet heir definition of big news.
I don’t think I would take that chance, because the rule is in place for the welfare of the SAs. It’s why grad transfers are given freedom. They’ve put in the work.
It can probably be demonstrated by any competent legal beagle that the long run gains of stability in SA academic progress far outweigh the short run paydays without future promises.
Again, looking for a medal or something? You were right about Smith. Why keep posting in literally every thread that you were right about things? is it really that important?
Have any former players followed Smith to MSU? Honestly I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Chiles went elsewhere. Smith’s bridge-burning exit didn’t make him any friends in the locker room and I don’t see a lot of guys wanting to follow him to the next spot.
Even if the individual player wasn’t bothered I think there’d be a lot of peer pressure to not go to MSU.
None of the portal guys…yet. Chiles seems like a forgone conclusion though. Haven’t seen him visit or linked anywhere else. All the recruits are following but players not yet. I could see velling eventhough I haven’t seen a visit there by him. I’d assume McCoy is heading to a TX or SEC school. Lot of offers and he’s from TX.
fwiw, one guy I chat with is saying we’re still actively recruiting Aidan Chiles to come back and it’s not some half-assed attempt.
doesn’t really mean anything at this point, but I know somebody on here asked if we were even still trying
It does say something that he went on his visit to East Landfill and didn’t instantly commit. I don’t know what it says exactly, but it says *something* haha.
Makes sense we wouldn’t give up and it’s a little interesting that he hasn’t committed to MSU yet. Can’t imagine we can match the NIL but maybe everything else about Corvallis, OSU and program can help tip the scale. Unless he’s been taking visits elsewhere and they haven’t been reported, what’s the hold up to MSU? Hard to believe he’d go to another school without a visit so that seems to leave MSU and OSU as the 2 spots.
NIL has very little bearing on ACs decision. He wants a good fit academically, great coaching and teammates, and solid football environment. He is happy in Corvallis and trusts Bray and the University/Community. When JS left, he needed to look at his options.
East Lansing is not Corvallis. He would have to adjust to the community, university, new teammates, and coaches. Plus I doubt he has a high level of trust in JS. I don’t know if he’ll come back to the Beavs but I won’t be surprised if he does. It will depend on if there is another program that he feels more comfortable with. Might be MSU or another program or I could see him committing to a team nobody expects. Regardless I’m confident he’s not basing his decision on NIL.
You sure about that? I think NIL had something to do with it. Kelze Howard, one of the prized recruits of last year’s class indicated in his live videos on Instagram that Aidan was getting a lot of NIL money to go to MSU.
IMO Chiles is making a BIG mistake by leaving OSU. He was going to be the next QB here and a very good one. Dante Moore is probably headed there and it looks like Dylan Riola, the top prep QB in the country along with another kid are visiting. He’s definitely not the guy in EL if they are bringing in other QBs of his caliber.
Chiles should have stayed here but I think him coming back to OSU is remote. He fell for NIL and it’ll be a decision he will soon regret.
Judging a kid for accepting life changing money isn’t something I’m gonna do. I think all things being equal (financially) Chiles would stay but life changing money is life changing money. Maybe even enough to start a vet clinic so no judgement from me.
That said, if he stays he could be a legend. Hard to put a price on that and he’d still get to be a veterinarian and achieve his life goal.
Do you wanna be a legend?
I think bill had pointed out earlier that he is probably checking out the veterinarian classes and to see what would transfer and all of that academic stuff. But hopefully he will come back and is at least considering it at a high level.
With this new court ruling dropped today, do commitments mean anything?
What i mean is if a guy transfers to 1 school, what’s to stop them from transferring to another school a month later? the NCAA isn’t allowed to force them to sit any longer, so there is no 1 and done free pass rule or grad transfer rule. it’s just a free for all.
Could a player, in theory, play week zero at 1 school, and then transfer to OSU if they don’t like their situation at the first school?
With OSU’s late fall term start date they could still enroll in time for Fall term. and play a full season.
Transfer from Colorado. Hey, I’ll take P4 players all day and we def need help at the RB spot. Question is…who recruited him? Lol. Gundy? I’m not aware of us hiring a RB coach yet. Secondly, I’m hoping there’s still a big name drop here yet to come? Based on some of the reporting, there was supposedly some big news to break and I’m not 100% sure this would qualify as that? Regardless, good pickup and has 2 years left as well.
This absolutely DOES NOT qualify for the “big news” drop. Yeah, OSU needs RB’s… but this isn’t a “big news” commit. The only position that deserves the hype thats been served on this is QB.
Ya they want to hype it up every time but maybe it wasn’t the commit they were thinking. There seems to be some momentum happening and I think we’ll see more come out later.
Hankerson was the lowest rated starting RB in the conference by PFF. Decent season the year before that, though. Looks like Fenwick-type depth at the position, which we needed.
Looking at the recent commits, it’s a bit underwhelming but the measuring stick is if they are better than G5 players.
1. Nick Norris. There better be something in the film that stands out. Coming off an injury year where the team went 0-11. Does he pass the measuring test? No
2. Van Wells. Scraps off the worst team in the PAC12? They better be good ones. Coming out of high school, only 2 P5 offers. Survived the purge of Deion one time but not a second. Does he pass the measuring test? Maybe
3. Anthony Hankerson – Productive in the limited role he had. A lot of P5 offers out of high school. Maybe a change in scenery will help. Does he pass the measuring test? Yes
Careful Bill. Prime is keeping receipts on you…
Bad teams also have talented players buried by bad coaching, so maybe we are getting a couple of those guys.
I’m skeptical of Prime’s dumpster fire as well. Every transfer from there should be taken with a grain of salt because of the circus and the emphasis on getting Shedeur yards/tds and Heisman hype. Nothing else mattered beyond that for year 1 of Prime…
Think Daschel (?) Posted that his PFF scores would actually have had him as our 2nd or 3rd best O Line this year. So it does seem like a great grab despite being on that Colorado line. Honestly, regardless if these are splash guys or not, at least getting some P4 dudes to xfer in is a big deal with what we’re facing. Haven’t seen any film on Norris but the last D Line we got from Northern Colorado turned out to be pretty good. I’d say Joe Golden was easily our 2nd best lineman this season.
I’m a little suspicious the Beavs could be hiring Thomas Ford for either the RB or Special Teams coaching positions.
A little inexperienced at the collegiate level but has strong Northwest recruiting ties, especially around Seattle where his brother TJ Ford runs his 7v7 program.
He was also on Jimmy Lake’s staff at UW briefly
Oregon State Vandals…. Slightly worse than MWC.
Actually a good strategy to go find the best of the FCS and see how well it translates to where the Beavs are for now. Perhaps Ford is bringing his best 3-4 guys- may be a good start at replacing some of the portal losses on the offensive side of the ball.
The Idaho fb program after all the horrible years under Paul Petrino, not so much his fault – bad AD & admin & the Kibby Dome finally had a breath of life. A glimmer of success and everybody leaves.
Remember when there was that false narrative that the Beavers were somehow exceptionally (unusually?) adept at taking advantage of the transfer portal? Ha! I suppose that was pre -NIL?
Yeah, the waived sitting year screwed any advantage we had. We were able to pluck a few guys buried on depth charts at the end of training camp before Fall term started at OSU
Some of those early 4star guy’s followed Bray from Nebraska…I bet Bray is a closer on the recruiting trail once the dust settles and he can dial into it more.
Max Torres, recruiting analyst covering Yucks, posted that 4* WR Jordan Anderson is visiting the Beavs. Either today or tomorrow. He decommitted from Oregon last week. Maybe he was mixed up and meant to commit to the Beavs all along.
Or maybe oregon will start viewing us as oregon’s developmental squad. Let the freshman get experience for a year before bringing them up to the varsity team with no transfer delays
If I was a school with tons of NIL money I don’t think I’d even want very many high school players. Why gamble on paying them NIL money when they might be busts. I’d spend most all my NIL money on transfers that are more of a sure thing.
New transfer commit this AM.
Jakobe Thomas from Middle Tennessee State. Has a pretty good offer list as a transfer including a few SEC schools. Not too often we beat out Auburn or Miss St for recruits
Twitter user says Kansas @ Illinois next Sept 7 has been taken off the schedule. We happen to have an opening on Sept 7. Possible Illinois dropped Kansas game to play the Beavs instead?
White didn’t play enough snaps for his rating to be worth anything.
Thomas was MTSU’s second-lowest rated starter on defense at 54.9. He had a 72 rating in 2022. Typically I’d say subtract 10 for a smaller conference player and that should tell you how good he’ll be at the P4 level. So he’s averaged 64 the past two seasons, 64-10=54. 54 was Calvin Hart’s rating, which made him our lowest rated defensive starter. In sum, he’s probably more of a depth player than anything. Maybe he has some amazing athleticism that’s getting him SEC looks or maybe we’re going to convert him to a different position? Who knows.
He did hold his own against Alabama with a 60 game grade, so there’s that.
Card could be good, hard to say with the other freshmen that were on the squad since little to no action. Supposedly Hatten looked good in super early practices but was injured. Valsin seemed to catch everything thrown at him, just didn’t get much of a chance. Wouldn’t hurt to grab a WR though. But I agree, Malakai Durant dominated this year…Definitely excited to see him play.
Can’t tell if this is a bad sign or not. On the one hand, “being in discussions” is pretty vague – Barnes and Co. should be “discussing” all options at this point. On the other hand, if we’re hoping to reconstitute the Pac at some point, you’d think that new conference would include the non-football sports, so why give up on that for 24-25 for basketball already?
Sadly, we’d at best be a mid MWC team too. I wonder if this is strictly for convenience. Planning an ind football schedule would be hard enough much less a full basketball season.
I think they want to re form the PAC for football as its the money making sport. Having the other sports in different conferences might not be the worst way to go. Would be easier to schedule games and help with travel. What’s easier, trying to re build the PAC 2 in baseball, etc or joining a conference like Big West or WCC?
Seems like a bad plan. If you truly want to work with the better MW schools to form a new Pac, then go the distance and include all the common sports.
Looking at their websites, all the MW schools also field teams in most of the sports that OSU does (football, baseball, softball, m&w basketball, w soccer, w t&f/cross country, m&w golf, m&w tennis, volleyball) – so why not form a conference for all of those?
The iffy Beaver sports that don’t have as many MW counterparts are men’s soccer, wrestling, gymnastics, and women’s rowing. I’d rather focus on joining non-Pac conferences for those sports and have the majority of the sports still under the Pac umbrella.
At some point in my life, I’d like to see a recruit criticize God rather than praise Him in their de-commitment announcement.
“First and foremost, I want to blame God for encouraging me to commit to this shithole in Eugene in the first place.
With that being said, I’d like to announce I will be de-committing from Oregon”
Gotta ask Jake Hedberg
I’d still argue neither commitment qualifies as “huge” news. Unless they’re trying to say a cluster of transfer commitments is the huge news.
So many Beav fans keep predicting or teasing this huge day, but let’s be real, it’s not a stretch to think a program is going to land several transfers after a coaching change. that’s just normal business.
Huge would be a 4* or 5* commitment from a player that has a ton of other SEC/Big10 type offers.
Or a transfer of a proven top tier player who has shown that ability at his previous stops.
To me, a Ty Thompson coming in to play QB is not HUGE, so that better not be it.
Although I agree that Ty Thompson transferring here wouldn’t be huge news, he did look remarkably better this year. Given the years before he looked pretty bad so not a high bar.
Thompson to me would only be huge if it meant he had some guys following him who were only at oregon because they wanted to play with him in the first place. So maybe that’s part of why that WR decided to de-commit and visit OSU?
But now we’re really stretching the definition of huge news.
A recruiting uptick with notable players could be huge, overall.
I imagine these kids bring recruiting value of their own, especially when they spend time camping with a lot of them during the HS years and being in the spotlight the most.
Kid stays loyal to his HS, because he’s that way. Kid is super smart. Kid stays loyal to his college, because he’s that way.
Man finds out his college isn’t loyal to him.
I’ll take that loyalty and that chip on that shoulder. I thought he looked good this year. Cristobal did no favors to the QB room at UO, when he was here. Even Herbert’s talent couldn’t overcome the poor development arc.
I’ll call Thompson huge news, and I’ll roll with that chip on his shoulder.
Sigh, the “HUGE” commit that they we’re hyping was Jakobe Thomas because he had offers from Auburn, Texas A&M, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Louisville, and West Virginia.
Does anyone know if Andre Jordan is still on the team? I only ask because I went to the roster page to check how many games he played in and it says “No statistics available for 2023”. Usually that info’s only removed if a player is no longer on the team, but he’s still listed on the roster.
He played in 3 or 4 games, so he should at least show up on the participation chart, regardless if he recorded a stat or not. It’s odd that info isn’t available if he’s still on the active roster.
One of my more reliable people I chat with is telling me there is still a big announcement that Beaver nation will like today.
So yeah, still very vague, but at least it’s a sign that the huge news didn’t drop yet.
I’m starting to think we just need to get used to the definition of huge not being what it used to be when we were a P5 team, but what do i know?
She is a loon if huge news is a transfer from Middle Tennessee State.
She is likely desperate for subscriptions and overplayed the hype or she has lost her marbles after JS left town.
I get that Beav fans are needing good news anywhere it comes from these days but cmon. Middle Tennessee State is huge news?
BeaverBlitz needs a huge reset for what to call huge news. My guess is it is a cover story to save face because they thought Chiles was actually coming back and MSU dumped a lot of last minute NIL $. So Machado had it all prepped to be the first to announce “Huge News for OSU!!”—-Chiles is back, but immediately then reduced to MTSU transfer is “huge news we were taking about…” yawn.
Nothing against the kid but it pales by comparison to huge news such as DJU transferring to OSU out of the blue.
I grew up in Oregon, went to the Civil War in Corvallis and the Apple Cup in Seattle alternating years. It is not the Civil War anymore. The Civil War implies we are partners. Oregon is now a Midwest Liberal Arts school, I guess they can have a Civil War with Indiana or some other Midwest school.
I simply disagree, As I said, find another G5 opponent. Anyone but UO. I don’t care about schedule strength. Playing Oregon is just inexcusable to me. I get many disagree. Honestly I am embarrassed by it. It is embarrassing to take Nike U’s scraps.
No, OSU still looks like the one begging for table scraps. I have so much respect for Oklahoma State refusing to schedule Oklahoma. Might watch that OSU instead. Oklahoma State has the guts to say no.
A little underwhelming, especially since all the talk leading up to this was there would be 5 power 4 opponents. Looks like the last one never materialized and we added SDSU for yet another MWC game. Also was hoping we’d be able to slip at least one of those P4 opponents later in the season in addition to the game against WSU.
weird, my notifications tell me that for oregon commit Jordan Anderson posted something, but when i went to check it had already been deleted.
he’s supposed to be on campus today
Wonder if they’re considering Parker McKenna at all? Had a really good season at Portland State. Wash State offered him. Getting quite a bit of interest and offers from G5 teams.
Just because he promised it doesn’t mean it was going to happen. Also said we keep our coaching salary pool at a p5 level and then slashed it immediately. He’s a snake oil salesman. He will say anything to get a positive reaction regardless of how true it actually is
We are playing the same 7 game MWC schedule as every other team in the MWC. This is after we cut our coaching budget by 3 million a year. For all the talk about funding the program at a P5 level, they are not following through with their actions
The top two MWC SOS rankings were BSU and SJSU (70 and 76). Both played a full MWC scheduled plus two P5 games.
For reference, Notre Dame’s SOS was 63, FSU’s was 60, Michigan’s was 56. So this would preclude us from a high ranking. We’re basically playing a ACC/Big Ten-quality schedule.
Idaho State, @SDSU, and Purdue were already scheduled. They were trying to add Notre Dame or Louisville but it hinged on the date the yucks could make available and if they’d be able to move around the Idaho State game. Continuing the civil war is a big state/local politics and commerce thing, less about college football/conf realignment. It’s likely they did have a game with Notre Dame or Louisville tentatively scheduled but if fell through because the timing didn’t work out.
I wish there was one more Power 5* game but that stretch in Sept should be fun (yucks, Purdue, @CAL). If they can get to October 5-0 there’s no reason they can’t make a run to the 12-team CFP.
If WSU holds strong on their class as they have so far and can find a QB in the Portal they should be decent too, fun way to end the season and a windfall that the Beavs get them at home.
I think it’s worth keeping in mind that the the next conference dominos are likely to have already fallen by the time they take the field against Idaho State, and they won’t be playing next season under a cloud of total uncertainty, they may very well have a Power 4/5* conference home by then in some form.
Also the WSU game is not on rivalry week. Seems like we should be making a bigger deal about it, it is the conference championship game whether people think that’s funny or not. It will suck if our season is already over before thanksgiving
“I knew he trusted in me, simply because I’m 17 and I’m getting a lot of reps I shouldn’t be getting,” Chiles said. “I saw that they believed in me, he’s putting me out there. He trusts me to go win this third drive and put up some points.”
Chiles also said that he developed a strong personal relationship with Smith, who would call him in his office on occasion and just ask him about school and life. The depth of the relationship mattered.
“He talked to me as a person, not as a player,” Chiles said. “I liked having a conversation with a coach who cares for my well-being.”
Kid doesn’t realize he got played by a con-artist narcissist. He put you in the game for a series (at detriment to the current team) because he already knew this was the old place that he was abandoning so he could convince you to come with him to the new place, not just abandon the old “special” place.
Yeah now the 3rd series every game (except the Civil War after the ink was dry in East Lansing) makes a lot of sense in hindsight and too bad Chiles doesn’t have wise counsel around him to counter the creeper vibe of JS.
So Chiles sitting out the Civil War in protest was a cover story lie too? Liars can’t keep their stories straight.
I never understood why some coaches were punitive toward kids, back when they had dumb rules about, “You can’t go to any of the schools I list,” when they transferred.
You’re going to get upset about someone leaving? Do you seriously want someone who doesn’t want to be there in your locker room? That doesn’t sound like a great recipe.
And to show that you’re a complete dick, you want to punish them on top of it?
The pendulum may have swung the other way and have issues of its own, but that used to be a thing, and I just never understood it.
I get what you’re saying but I think it’s more of a commitment to the school and team that’s being broken that bothers people. Hence so&so committed to oregon state, then they just pack it up and leave like nothing happened a year or 2 later. At one time that “commitment” meant something but with the pandemic trasfer changes and NIL that loyalty is gone. It just is what it is.
We have no idea what the team will look like and Beavs have coaches on the low end of experience. I’m still trying to figure out how an 11-1 team is not going to have a chance with the Ducks.
Attendance will be fine. The idea that you need to play USC to fill Reser is nonsense. Win games and people will attend. I am boycotting due to the Oregon game but I think the stadium will be full if they are winning and won’t be if they aren’t.
Beavs recruiting UT backup and one-time big-time recruit Maalik Murphy. At least they’re swinging for the fences on QB recruits. We’ll see if Gundy can close the deal on someone.
I like Murphy, but I think Thompson has more to prove and has the tools to do it.
Watching Murphy this year, he seemed late on reads, but still made the plays, because the wrs were so open. I know that changes with experience, but I think Thompson has the moxie.
I wonder if DJU started something of a trend by choosing us for a year.
And we did get a bunch of free publicity this year, for better or worse. I like the idea of good players choosing to rise to the challenge ahead of us. They have easier/safer choices, if they want them.
It’s a smart move if a guy is looking to cash on on NIL. Especially those kids that are mid to high 3 stars that have some good tools but haven’t developed fully. Spend a few years in a lower division and maybe tear it up by your redshirt sophomore year then trasfer out forbluebirds.
It made me sick to write that but it’s the reality we’re in. If your not a high dollar program you’re essentially a development school/league for the bluebloods.
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Per reports, it sounds like Ty Thompson may be headed to Oregon State. He had dinner with Coach Bray and Jalen Moore a couple nights ago.
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Caves maybe? Seems like the fancy restaurants like Castor or Del Alma don’t really vibe with 20 year old kids necessarily. Corvallis really needs a place like The Gables back.
i reached out to see why it was deleted. seems to be a case of sharing more info than maybe was supposed to be shared.
Anyway, I don’t really have reason to not believe him, he seems to be a credible(but inexperienced) media guy.
His stuff was more believable than most of the Beaver fans out there saying Player A, B & C are all going to be the next QB for OSU, only to have player A, B & C all commit to another team within a few hours of the claim
Jim Harbaugh’s first conflict with NCAA earlier in the year was over buying a kid a hamburger on a recruiting visit…So we have a crumb trial of evidence that brings us closer to a Harbaugh on the staff. As the speculation rolls and the world turns.
The best speculation about Jay Harbaugh would be that no one has been announced as ST coach and I don’t an AHC yet (correct? might be wrong on that one). The only way they are getting him is a promotion like AHC.
Jim is the crazy uncle isn’t he? I thought Jay was the son of John Harbaugh…Family ties of course, but isn’t the goal an upgrade opportunity and title/pay? AHC would be a good lure to get him and his pedigree along with the rest of the young guns…
The rb coach that is likely the hire (NB alluded to him) has experience with ST. Don’t think there’s a staff spot for a designated ST coach like Smith had with Cookus.
I wonder who the S&C will be. This is one of the biggest hires not only for development and performance but because of the rules he will be the coach that spends the most time with the players. I think Macdonald was damn good and we need someone very good like him.
Is Bray going to coach a position? They already have the defensive positions covered unless one of the LB coaches is just for the bowl game. I think someone said he has 3 more positions to fill. My guess would be S&C, RB, and special teams unless S&C isn’t considered in the same group. I’m guessing KHJ will help with DBs.
S&C doesnt count towards the on field coaching group.
I think the TE, ST and RB position groups remain(unless OLB is still also not filled? Haven’t seen the announcement on that one yet)
My guess is:
Ford gets RB
Brandon Huppert at OLB
ST and TE up for grabs
I’m reevaluating the Gundy hire as it may relate to Oregon’s Thompson or Murphy from Texas. I don’t know what connection GUndy may have had in the recruiting trail with each guy a few years back when they were high schoolers, but it strikes me that Gundy has a few elements to his pedigree worth considering for some of these guys who are looking to bounce out of a dead end P4 program due to depth issues.
Gundy has a pro style foundation with Riley from his playing days and early coaching career. He also has some quality time immersed in Chip’s classic RPO offense with a heavy run approach, giving the qb plenty of chances to feature athleticism and decision making.
If Gundy has any relationship with some of these guys, I wouldn’t be surprised to see one of them land at OSU. BG will be at a disadvantage since all qbs will be learning a fairly new, albiet likely similar offense to what we have seen. I expect, just based on new eyes and new coaches to see some differences and a bit more of the RPO stuff rather than a heavier dose of pro style we are used to with JS/BL. If Gundy hasn’t had the chance ot call his own games yet, and he has a lot of internal knowledge, he may be a great option to see how it translates as a mesh of Riley/Kelly offensive innovation/old school.
I like the idea of Malik Murphy as a Beav. He has been under Sark for a few years and must have learned from him, but hasn’t had a real shot to play, and Manning is waiting in the wings for next year if Ewers falters even a little bit. Tension filled qb room at UT for sure next year.
So the 3 potential transfers that our team Graphic Design guy, Jake Namisnak, followed recently are Van Wells(committed), Anthony Hankerson(committed) and Ty Thompson(quiet)
He’s not as fast or explosive as Chiles, but he is more of a power runner. 6’4 and a big dude.
HS film is reminiscent of Bryce Young. He does a really good job moving after the pocket breaks down and keeping his eyes down field to extend plays. Which is a good thing because his HS OL is terrible. He doesn’t seem to have much experience actually passing from the pocket between a heavy dose of designed roll outs and a lot of 1 second fire drills when the inside of the OL breaks down quickly.
I did find film from Nike’s 2022 spring game where his deep ball accuracy is shaky, but he looks good doing everything else. Word out of Eugene was that he looked totally capable in practice and no one’s really sure why the staff didn’t want to hand him the keys.
The schedule is not too terrible. Still think the Oregon game is a mistake unless the Beavs somehow land a very good QB and a couple other good players in the portal. So far, none are guys who look like they are immediate starters.
QB’s should now take more interest in the Beavs now that they can see who they will play.
Some silver lining with the schedule, there should not be any night games at home with the current media situation.
Yeah that’s the current situation. No media deal, homes games will be in the afternoon as it stands now. ESPN, FOX and CBS aren’t picking up the Beavs games in one offs. So the Beavs should have a large amount of influence of when their game times are. Great for people who want to go but probably on some terrible channel.
Yep, done with Oregon. I didn’t think we’d schedule them and am disappointed we did. Otherwise, the schedule isn’t horrible. Can’t expect to have 12 home games. We are in 2 years of limbo and can’t dwell on it. Hope for some court wins and a sunny future.
Was told we could be getting some QB clarity tomorrow.
Top 3 in the running are TT(Oregon), MM(Texas) and Gevani McCoy(Idaho). I still lean heavily towards TT to the one that comes out on top.
Hoping to pair that with some good news on the legal landscape.
I think Murphy is waiting to see what UW does at QB to replace Penix and could slide in there.
McCoy might end up at WSU.
We did offer him in HS so hopefully we can leverage that but I agree with the above comment..I’d like MM but our luck will dictate that we get whoever the worst qb left is.
He may get “beat out” by Cam Ward. Wasn’t it confirmed that they are both visiting FSU? DJU is a good, not great QB with incredible arm strength and middling accuracy. Clemson did not think he was elite enough to get them back to the playoffs and I think they were correct, he’s not quite that level. If he’s after NIL money then that’s another story. He could have stayed at OSU and probably padded his stats. I think some of these portal QBs have found and will find that moving for moving’s sake isn’t always the right decision.
Paraphrasing a comment I found elsewhere… Given the state of college refereeing over what constitutes pass interference, our next OC should install an empty backfield, Air Raid offense whose base alignment is 5 TE’s. =D
Sappington is visiting Oregon.
Can’t blame the kid, dont think he was on scholarship here and Hayes has the kicker scholarship spot locked up still. He walked on and stuck it out for 2 years and has earned a scholarship. If oregon gives it to him, good for him.
And make a little change at the same time, it’s a good deal.
It appears Hayes has one year left because he didn’t redshirt in his first four years. Appeared in 4 games this year and the bowl game doesn’t count. Looks like he can come back next year.
Sappington is nobody’s fool. He knows Lanning is even dumber than JS and will refuse to kick any field goals even if it costs him the biggest games of the year.
Sappington has a win/win by getting a scholarship and knowing he will be kicking only extra points for the rest of his career.
I am stopped by Wise Cracks in Corvallis this morning and I ran into Trent Bray and other coaches. A bunch of kids and some family was with them. First who is doing official visits this weekend and two who goes to Wise Cracks. Then it hit me, is there a better breakfast place in Corvallis they could have gone too? Jalen Moore was outside ripping someone a new one when I walked out. Hopefully it a successful visits.
Jalen Moore just has attitude/temper issues. I posted it in another post, but every time I’ve seen him in Corvallis, 4 times, he’s either been yelling at me or someone else on the street about some perceived sleight. Literally every single time I’ve seen him. Sounds like other people are experiencing this as well.
I had class with this dude when I went to school there, and he never did any of his assignments. We would show up to class for a presentation and Jmo would say “What presentation”. He also thought he was a surefire draft pick at the time, so it is interesting to see that he has taken this role as recruiting coordinator. But I digress lmao. No shade, just wanted to share that story since I see his name popping up a lot.
Maybe they had a certain portal QB all but wrapped up and ready to announce but then he backed out or something, that could be a reason why the Director of On-Campus Recruiting might be blowing off a visit that was happening and going full Ari Gold on someone on the phone.
If we were a “real” fanbase like what they have in the B1G/SEC you’d have disguised yourself and stuck around eavesdropping to get to the bottom of it.
Watched some Gevani McCoy film. He would probably push BG, but he won’t be a big step up. Doesn’t seem to have great arm strength and has a weird throwing motion. He makes good decisions, but his arm is limited. He’s pretty quick, but he’s small so you wouldn’t want him running a whole lot.
I WILL take their running back Anthony Woods, who is also in the portal. If someone’s (NB?) hunch that we’re getting a RB coach from Idaho is real, that seems like a possibility. Woods is small, very quick, very active at the LOS finding lanes to run through and doesn’t go down easily. He would be a great complement to DM.
He’s really explosive. Runs zone plays well; patiently waits for the hole then bursts through it. His size is the only knock. He’s not going to be breaking many tackles.
Man, Idaho is getting picked apart. the payoff for a little success I suppose.
Just had their DC leave for SDSU.
Lost their QB and RB last week to the portal.
Starting TE is going to the NFL.
Wonder if that means Ford will be leaving soon too?
Only thing you can do is use it for recruiting. “We had 10 guys leave for a combined $2M last year” or something like that. Sell yourself as a college career maker the way other places do for NFL careers.
Full 45 min talk with JS at last years AFCA conference they just put out yesterday. Link is to the part where he talks about the “unique challenges of coaching at your alma mater” that are interesting.
Pros- lots of support and people in the building still from his time as a player
Cons- he felt pulled in a lot more directions than just football as an alum and had lots of additional expectations because he was a former player/alum
SO the best thing to do was to dump all over the program and burn it down as he left. What a loser, sounds like he thinks he is still a stand up guy in his own mind. He is most affected by the group who stuck it out since the original team meeting in 2018, the same group of guys who walked on Senior day this year. SO all of the other recruits through the years are less valuable and can be betrayed without remorse.
He looked all skinny and his hair is really thinning. Somebody showed him a Rose Bowl trophy and he started talking about his “precious”
Really bizarre scene
He must stress eat. Although I’m not sure what he was stressed about in corvallis, the prick was bigger royalty then Riley. He could have grifted his way to bonuses every year for life.
CSU coach Jay Norvell complaining about how his 10 best players are all actively getting recruited by other teams and his QB received a “$600k offer” from someone else.
Really? The going rate for the 9th best passer in the MWC is $600k? Who is paying that?
Greg Biggins reporting that MM is visiting Duke, Baylor and Beavs. Doubt we compete with Baylor unless he doesn’t like living in TX anymore. Duke just lost their HC as well so maybe we’re on more equal footing there? Regardless, I’ve accepted that we’re not getting any QB so anyone with a pulse that we do manage to grab will be a pleasant surprise.
Dukes new head coach , Manny Diaz has had a good relationship with Maliik since the 8th grade. Theres articles about it. I think Duke is the frontrunner.
So Murphy is supposed to be visiting OSU on the 17th. But is getting a lot of interest from duke and Baylor. Hopefully we can get him to commit and not take other visits. Any qb news today doesn’t match up if Murphy is visiting the 17th and Thompson is in Pullman. Maybe it’s McCoy which I would be fine with as long as they still brought in Thompson or Murphy. I don’t like him as a starter.
Hopefully HCTB has everyone ready for BG to lead the team and DM and DF are ready to run over ND.
Looks like GK is now on the clock. T10 can go cry in the Midwest because P2 rule the day in PACX now.
Happy that JS and BL are long gone.
WT stinks and MC can will get the boys to Omaha this year.
SB gets a pass on the schedule and kudos for hanging in with OSU and not jumping ship to UW.
Beavs across the land are feeling good today after the WSSC ruling. Let’s go Beavs!
Awesome to see we’ve got our hands on more cash right now than the ucks will make over their six year grant of rights deal from the big ten. Damn good day!
That is what I am saying. Get rid of any liabilities that could go beyond 2024 and make all 12 schools pay equal shares. So future revenues are not reduced by something that all 12 schools should have paid for.
Spread the costs of GK’s severance and all other existing liabilities among all 12 schools.
Once that is done the customary December distribution can be made to all schools, very important though that ALL liabilities are satisfied first. With court cases still in the works it will be nearly impossible to specify exact liabilities any time soon.
this from bbel facebook
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Troy McCoy — The case in the Whitman County Superior Court began with motions for a temporary restraining order and a preliminary injunction and motions by the others to dismiss.
Judge Libey sided with OSU and WSU. Those decisions were appealed even though the case is in the beginning stages. This is a discretionary appeal. The court decides whether they want to take up the appeal at this time. The Washington Supreme Court decided, no. They will not consider the appeals at this point in the case.
That means the case in Judge Libey’s court continues. Discovery, motions, depositions and trial. If OSU and WSU win at trial, they will ask that the preliminary injunction become permanent.
In the meantime, the preliminary injunction granted by Judge Libey goes into effect. OSU and WSU are the only members of the Pac-12 board. The wretched 10 are likely to contest decisions made by the 2. This will take everyone back to the judge’s courtroom where the merits of decisions will be argued.
Of course, the parties could always settle. The preliminary injunction and the state’s highest court’s decision not to review that injunction strengthens the righteous two’s bargaining power.
It is a good day to be a Beaver!”
I just saw TB at the grocery store. We chatted for a minute, he’s super cool. I asked him who our next QB is going to be and he told me. Guys it’s so huge, like you’ll never believe we could get him to come to corvallis but Trent knocked it out of the park. Please subscribe for more rumors at beaverblitz.com
I don’t give a shit. Blount punched an opponent in the face, didn’t get charged with anything, and Belloti conveniently “unsuspended” him right before the Civil War. Life ain’t fair sometimes!
Yeah the charges were dropped. But why? Just trying to think how to explain it to my Grandson. Must have been a dirty racist cop. No special treatment for a star athlete.
If it had nothing to do with the essence of your post, you shouldn’t have made it central to the essence of your post… and then used your grandchild as a weapon in a concern troll.
How can you make the original concern troll worse?
Use innocent kids as a weapon, when you double down on it.
DUI for weed is a hard case to prove against a competent defense. My guess is the DA realized it wasn’t worth the resources especially for a crime that is statistically not as dangerous as driving while texting.
Because you can’t test for weed like you can for alcohol. There is no instant test. And if DM wasnt in possession than it’s impossible to prove he was driving under the influence of weed, despite the possibility of smell. And even smell of weed, seeing how it’s legal, isn’t enough to arrest someone
You think it’s the first time in history someone was not actually guilty of the offense they were charged with? It’s why we have a justice system, and it’s not social media.
Damien Martinez may be completely innocent. The DA didn’t want to prosecute. Could mean there was no evidence of wrongdoing, could mean the case was flimsy, we’ll never know.
That’s the way the justice system works. Anyone just assuming he’s guilty of something is way out in left field.
If you’re upset because he had pot in his car, I really hope you don’t tell him about that guy who took perfectly good water and turned it into wine. Anyone who thinks intoxicants are amoral because of that guy has it absolutely 100% wrong.
Gabarri Johnson entering portal. Missouri QB. 4-star (for those who care) Tacoma,WA Lincoln HS. Brandon Huffman says keep on eye on Oregon State with this one.
QB transfer portal recruiting is wild. Just a game of musical chairs with different sized cash prizes on each seat.
Gabarri Johnson would be a nice guy to pick up. But who knows, the names will flip around tomorrow on the next spin
So the guy everybody got all excited about with “Huge” news yesterday has already deleted hos commitment tweet to OSU.
Fun while it lasted. SEC money bags must have come through
A heads up from thayer, also from bbel
a question about the case
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Mike Messenger — Kind of the opposite of a legal term. So many think the case is over. Buckle up, it is likely to be a long bumpy ride. At some point, people may think, “it’s never over!”
We don’t have a Yeski. We are calling way too much offspeed in the form of curveballs. Works great until you hang one. Establish a FB. Your change should be a killer. Go back and watch our runs under Yeski and even prior. Lots of 1st pitch changes for strikes, outs, and championships.
Yep, clear shift to offense and just hope the pitching can do enough to hang on. I think the tourney still favors teams with pitching and defense and we saw what happens when the bats don’t come alive last year. 1st 6 weeks of last season were pretty awful. Team avg hovered around the .200 mark. Think you have 2-3 proven commodities in the pitching staff but there’s a lot of unknowns to say the least. Should be an exciting offense…just have to hope that 6-8 guys can step up on the mound.
“After losing to New Mexico State in the NCAA tourney a few years ago, Dan Hurley changed his entire approach. Instead of going with toughness and defense, he decided to prioritize shooting.
UConn 7-of-9 from 3 tonight against Gonzaga.”
Unfortunately, our coach doubled down on toughness and defense and now we’re an embarrassment.
This is on X:
Missouri quarterback Gabarri Johnson will enter the NCAA Transfer Portal. Keep an eye on Oregon State here for the former four-star QB from Tacoma (Wash.) Lincoln
Started listening to Dam Podcast, and it sounds like Bray might be at the 11 coaches already so Cookus is likely out unless he stays on in some type of analyst or advisory status. Also, doesn’t seem like a dedicated SP coach would be on staff. Curious which of the position coaches will pull double duty.
Curious if anybody happens to know if we retained the person(s) in charge of recruiting media, when it is sent to prospective students and after, when announcements are made online (I’m thinking of the digital posters, player graphics, photographs in uniforms etc)?
In the meantime ESPN prorata still on table for 2 more additions. BY watching unfolding of PAC2. If there is value there he will strike. There is a lot to unpack there and we shall do that in a future thread.
Post from this morning
The PAC12 ruling has a lot of people taking. BY May snatch them up and split B12 into 2 conferences with AQ status. BYU,UH,UA,ASU,Utah,CU (temporarily) could get shifted into reloaded “PAC8”. NCAA rules are being dissected for options to satisfy TV partners, contracts, etc. that paves the way for an ACC merger to follow a similar path that would have CU come back to BIG12. Stanford,CAL,SMU would form PAC10 and some minor shifting for BIG12 and ACC schools.
ACC most likely losing 4. ND may be a part of these 3 merged entities in some capacity but I’m hearing BIG10 may offer similar deal they currently have with ACC for Olympic sports. As we near the House vs NCAA endgame all the final jockeying for position is happening. Imagine 3 conferences (PAC/B12/ACC) subsidiaries of 1 entity that manages all revenues, 3 auto bids to CFP, utter basketball dominance, and coast to coast presence in nearly every major market. It’s the only way to compete with the SEC/BIG10 and survive what’s coming. Streaming with be a big part of that next negotiated contract. And if the NCAA overlords go away that March Madness money is going to change the game for these 3 conferences.
There still has the be the final trial and a permanent injunction put in place. It will be months before that happens. If everyone wants to move on the parties will need to come to a settlement and avoid the trial. With that being said the permanent injunction will be a formality but it will still take time to finalize. It’s in everyone’s best interest to settle this thing and move on.
They took all their chips and threw them in the pot, regarding the TRO.
We can let it take some months and then watch it end in a quick trial. Likely, we can ask the trial be expedited, given there will be no new information, except for what discovery has yet to be made public.
At this point, I don’t think there’s a bad email from Murthy or Schulz that would be leverage enough for us to feel the need to compromise. But I imagine the 10 really want to find some way to not let some get out. But even if they didn’t, they don’t have any arguments to stand on. So ending it is in their best interest, unless they want to continue to accrue lawyer fees for this waste of our legal system’s time, which we will make them pay.
It would be ironic to see the tables completely shifted into a superconference megolith that Big10/SEC can’t over-run in the media or football worlds, nor could they diminish with revenue/streaming or basketball.
An alliance among 3 conferences coast to coast would be an answer in eyeballs, scheduling, content, competitive balance and overall appeal beyond the ESPN monopolized coverage of only SEC, and FOX only Big10.
Remember when this was attempted with PAC12, ACC, Big10? But the Big10 commish was the fox in the henhouse and shortly thereafter poached USC/UCLA? I’d say BY of Big12 has learned the lesson from the different sequences and is likely going to be the one to salvage college athletics if they can pull off a combination of mergers to include ACC/PAC2 assets and reform a PAC division within this super conference. It should be more like 10/10/10 to pull as many schools into the loop from MWC/AAC that can join in order to continue with strength in numbers against the ESPN/FOX deathstar.
Once the ACC implodes it could be a quick reshuffle and a rise from the ashes all because the PAC2 didn’t simply go softly into the night and accept the predetermined fate of MWC. Well Done Scott Barnes!
There is a story/book/documentary about the lawsuit – somewhere. Kerry Eggers could probably sleuth it. The lawsuit was ready to go altho I can’t pintpoint the exact action that sprung it. The law firm handling it for OSU/WSU has been clinical and, for the most part, unemotional. It has been a terrific fit, so far. Who knew to choose them? When was the case being prepared? To file in Whitman County? I can’t recall if there was a time it was even threatened as if OSU/WSU were doing nothing. Who is paying the lawyers? Will it come out of any settlement?
All this conference realignment will be just conferences going back to the 90’s of very regionalized conferences once athletic departments are massively in debt and the NCAA ends up being replaced. All this realignment show will just be a short term situation that blows up in the face of networks. Beavers being left out in the cold temporarily will end up being a blessing when Oregon/UW, Bay Area and LA schools come back when their athletic departments have to face reality in 2 years.
Not only are athletic departments massively in debt, but the networks ESPN and FOX will have enormous media rights contracts that they cannot pay and likely will default on as time goes on. The whole thing was a bubble inside a house of cards, being pushed from forces outside of campus/media reality. Many execs began an arms race of their own and it has been pushed through major sports for about 25 years. Until it completely runs its course and some major media companies go belly up, they could continue the charade. But we are nearing the point of reality and class action lawsuits don’t reassure any of these guys because they know they will be exposed and the whole thing crashes.
PAC2 sits at an important opportunity to be in control of major assets and power to rebuild with proper guardrails/vision and holding the west coast teams who have overly inflated egos in check as they begin to trickle back to the regional alliances they will all need. It shouldn’t be a punitive amount for the schools to rejoin a PAC conference, but it needs to hurt a little and come with specific penalties for ever trying to usurp and destroy the conference again.
I watched Gabarri Johnson’s HS film. He’s a more elusive runner than Chiles and more explosive than TT. I don’t think he has as good of downfield speed as Chiles (probably because he’s shorter), but his ability to escape the rush is really good. Arm strength looks good enough. Looks like a guy that will need to learn to read defenses and play the position at a higher level, but he has a ton of potential. Best case scenario would be for him to sit for a year or two, then take over the starting job when ready.
If we were going to play more of a RPO-heavy offense, he would be a great fit.
That’s what I see too. His value is in his legs. But if he’s coming here, he’s competing for the starting job right away. Would only be competing with BG at this point.
SOS is going way down next year and still have DM to feed the ball. Growing pains would be more tolerable.
Fascinating story in the WSJ about Cam Ward. Talks about his journey from being a wing T QB in high school to an air raid QB. Not knowing how to run play action (he handed the ball off on his first try). The main part was about how he hit the changing landscape at the right time. Able to freely transfer twice and cash in on NIL. Schools are in a bidding war for his services right now.
He had some NIL at WSU. But did something I really did not think about what kids would do with their NIL money. He bought a house and then flipped it for $100k profit. Putting his money to work. Very smart decision.
So is it going to be Cam or DJ for the Seminoles? Who else is interested in DJ? I heard another talking head say that DJ has enough sample size to show that he has not lived up to his 5-star rating, good, but not a great college QB. Also, wherever he lands next, whether his father likes it or not, DJ will be under a lot of pressure to show improvement or he’s headed towards a late round draft choice or even going undrafted.
Too bad. Hope he got paid plenty. USC is a dump of a campus and a gross area of LA to live everyday.
Perhaps he prefers playing with a lot of selfish teammates who will quit when things go badly.
I could’ve sworn Kim said the main reason he committed to OSU was to be close to home so his family could easily attend games, so I expected him to stick with the Beavs. I guess whatever ASU had to offer turned out to be more important, though.
You know all these kids are getting negative recruited big time. Only the ones who can see the real value of OSU through all the negative crap will play for us. Maybe that’s a good thing,
It is less than a month into Brays era. I’d expect a few more to recommit but going into the next cycle it will be better. Coach M had a pretty big reputation that paid dividends and we are seeing the fallout of his departure the most which we all expected anyway. Too bad his wife didn’t insist to stay in Corvallis more.
We might need to embrace the New Mexico State model and become JUCO U for a few years. Saw they had 19 JUCO guys on their squad. It honestly could be a rough go from a HS recruitment standpoint for several years. Beav Blitz was projecting around 7 guys signing and that was assuming several that haven’t been very vocal (Durant for example) kept their commitment. From what they said in their podcast, the only one they had been able to confirm was 100% was the LB from Portland, dexter foster. Unfortunate to lose Kim, especially considering he didn’t follow coach M. That would’ve made a little more sense then ASU. Seeks likely that the Feb signing day will be more active for the Beavs, grtting any of the scraps or late portal entries.
Looks like the new offers are in the Riley mold of only recruited by Ivy League and Air Force. We might grab a few hidden gems here and there, but depth is going to drop off significantly.
Good thing for us is the portal can fill the gaps better than JC’s used to.
Maybe a form of Last Chance U… Transfer U?
We hardly knew U? 20 guys each year show up in late spring and transfer out by Dec 8 and make about 7 weeks of actual classes before they go elsewhere?
What a great system of higher education and learning.
Hahaha!!! I always get a kick out the coaches and administrators mention the “student athletes”. We all know they are there for the education first. (Major sarcasm!)
I’d also think with the portal we could do well to grab guys transferring after one year who didn’t pick the right fit the first time (like Gabarri Johnson).
Yeah, perhaps. We can develop them and they can leave in a year or 2 and go to the school they really want. Lol. Really going to be a turnstile program I fear. And it’s probably the reality for most schools not in the top 20. D Mart one of the last “real” ones unfortunately. Might be the last good name and top talent player we have that actually sticks it out until they go pro.
Both Arnold bros end up at USC. Glad we were one of the few P5 schools to offer, develop, then help them go to the school they really wanted to attend. Sad. Wonder what 2nd or 3rd string guy we can grab from Colorado though.
I’m amazed that portal guys who play defense would ever want to play for Lincoln Riley. He’ll make you look worse than ever. USC went 7-5 with CW this season and without him next year and a tougher schedule and they’ll be lucky to go 6-6. If you’re gonna transfer, at least go to a school with a chance to win 9 games
My prediction was we’d lose any established players and only be left with players who were unproven who want playing time (so they can move up next year). Where are we at on this? I figured it would be about 60% of the roster.
Haven’t lost anyone since Sappington a few days ago. Portal numbers haven’t been high comparatively, but they’re all starters and key contributors. 8 guys to portal I believe. Who knows what it looks like after the bowl. Would assume there’s some that will move on after that. Wanted some extra reps, bowl experience, etc. We’ve done a good job in grabbing 3 players from Colorado though. 2 from the OL and a RB. Saw some footage of the RB in his limited plays and not super impressed by any means. He did catch the ball though so perhaps that’s what the intent is since we didn’t really have that guy this year. Our RB room is in rough shape after this season so it’s a “good” move from that perspective…need some bodies. Unless there’s a few big portal surprises over next few days, this seems like a very so-so last few weeks. I guess all thi gs considered it could’ve been much worse and perhaps this is the best that it really could’ve been. We have the opportunity to be competitive next year with our garbage schedule but the following year is a true question mark. As mentioned above, it’s likely going to be heavily relient on JUCO guys and probably even lower level guys that see OSU as a step up from where they’re at.
It will become a numbers game among the “top 20 bluebloods programs” to decide how much effort they put into recruiting high school kids vs buying a portal guy like Easton after he is productive at a rival school.
Not sure of percentage but I’d guess many programs are reducing high school scholarship offers and holding back more roster spots for transfers, although it may become the norm to require an NIL player to forego his scholarship but that wouldn’t affect roster numbers.
85 on roster and 25 more as “walking/NIL” will be how the USCs get around the 85 scholarship rule and stack the roster again.
Each class contains about 25 recruits but what if USC begins holding 15 spots for transfers each year? Over time these schools all lose contact with the high school network and simply go the east way of luring through NIL more talent. I don’t see it being sustainable for those programs to continually buy new players every year to hold depth on the roster but some will attempt it out of sheer hubris.
The opportunity for OSU and Bray is at hand. Aside from the uncertainty of schedule or conference, it seems that a lot of high school kids are getting squeezed by the NIL feeding frenzy and will be overlooked or have fewer opportunities to sign out of high school. Of course the 5* guys will command attention but the low 4* to the 2* guys will be squeezed out if 50 programs are reducing the number of high school kids they sign by 8-10 each year. That is a random guess but easily 500 top athletes essential drop a slot from top 25 programs into the 40-60 programs range which is where everyone considers OSU. A great recruiting staff that knows the situation and prepares to recruit the kids like that could find success and once the kids are on campus, another Damien Martinez or 2 who will simply invest in OSU and stay rather than jump out.
All is not lost and the NIL landscape is a detrimental change in the sport but it will present some new types of opportunities if Bray and staff are able to see them and capitalize.
100% happening, my son’s HS coach talked about it this spring at the parent meeting. He is heard from ACC/SEC programs that they are taking as few as 10 HS seniors.
“I don’t see it being sustainable for those programs to continually buy new players every year.” NIL is exciting for all the millionaire donors but they might wear out in a year or so, especially if their payments don’t return well.
I don’t think you realize how much play money some of these donors have. It’s pocket change for them. Small schools may start seeing the decrease in NIL but large NIL schools will always throw money at players.
It will be interesting to see how effective KHJ really is as a recruiter. Many of his stops have been pretty “easy” recruiting grounds…UW, UO, USC. UNLV and the Beavs are his lowest profile schools and he only spent 2022 at UNLV right? Definitely think he’s a great choice for us but I see a lot of peeps thinking he’s the answer to our recruiting needs.
I’m still wondering if it is Breckterfield although his name hasn’t been mentioned much.
Likely someone in a big bowl game as a key assistant (Breckterfield, Jay Harbaugh) or an NFL guy like KHJ or an FCS guy like the NDSU guy who just went to USC…
I noticed KHJ has started following a handful of our current recruits. Don’t think he’d have any other reason to follow recruits/transfers unless he is coming
College football has turned into pro soccer where you largely have the buying clubs and the developing clubs. Every now and then a developing club will have a good run, but it’s largely the buyers that win championships every year.
From a results standpoint, I don’t think this will end much differently than it has for the sport the last few decades. It just changes the way players move around.
It definitely gets the elite players into the top-tier teams much faster. But I also think it gives lower-tier teams more opportunity to recruit higher potential talent out of HS, since the upper-tier teams are more focused on the proven transfers.
Slow starts are getting old, but I think it’s the best this team can do sometimes. It’s like the Beavs under Riley with mobile QBs, Tinkle’s team never fails to give up first-half threes to some no-name who is shooting 20% or less for the season. We shall see if another comeback is in the cards. The P-12 is having a bad weekend overall.
I’m ready for the apologists in here to say, well UTSA had a really good season that one time so it’s good to see the Beavs hang with a quality opponent.
Beat out Portland State, Montana and a slew of Ivy schools. Not sure about him being one of the best RBs in CA. Seems like he’d have more offers from P4 or even G5 schools being a top RB in the state but yet OSU is the “best” offer he has by far. Good size though. 6ft 205 lbs.
Don’t trust your eyes, his production at the highest level of football in California, or all the accolades he received from everyone else who watched him all year and did trust those things. https://www.hudl.com/video/3/15902299/650a21bd578ee30abc6d3a82
Just trust what other schools do, regarding his recruitment.
Lol. He might be good but 0 P4 offers? When has a top RB in CA never received a P4 offer? Only G5 offers were Air Force and UNLV. You’re telling me that Portland state, AF, UNLV and the Beavs are the only non-ivy league schools to have seen his film or thought it worthwhile to offer? 1 article says his speed is a concern but he did have 1 td of 80+ yds this season so maybe he’s gotten faster.
Crazy stuff. Beavs do it again 66-65. Some UTSA numbnut fouled Jordan Pope who was dribbling about 25 feet from the basket. Pople is a 95% foul shooter and sank the 1 and 1.
Yeah… by a couple teams. It’s really not as good as you think it is, but we still won’t see the top half of the standings, despite having some talent to work with.
This is an interesting commit. His film shows that he should be getting more offers that G5.
He’s a very shifty runner. Gets to his top speed very quickly and keeps his feet moving. His high school film looks awfully like Jermar Jefferson’s. One thing that was really nice was the end of the film. Several plays of him blocking downfield.
Drawbacks – top end speed isn’t the best. And you have to wonder if there is another reason why he wasn’t recruited more. Guys in the LA area don’t get missed if they have talent. It’s not grades.
This is one of those commits that have a lot of upside. If he can add some speed, he could be an elite back.
He’s not Jonathan Taylor, but he’s fast enough to run past just about everyone and strong enough to carry 4-5 guys down the field.
This guy was a steal, and I’m pretty sure it’s because he was playing on two sprained ankles last year and the big schools are all looking elsewhere (remember Lincoln Riley bashing CA HS kids?)
The other teams don’t have to be great, we’re bad. The only P4 teams we’ve played we got absolutely wrecked. We’re 339th in pts scored. 261st in ppg (which includes 3(?) OT games.). 262nd in fg %. 346th in 3pt %. Pretty solid at the free throw line at 41st. This is against pre-season opponents. MW schedule next year might be much worse as they’ve been competitive so far this season. Winning in OT or last second plays at home vs what should be an inferior opponent seems to give people some false impressions on how this will translate vs other P4 schools.
Curious how this Murphy QB battle will finish. Originally was visiting Baylor, Duke and OSU. Canceled his Baylor visit and went to.South Carolina instead. However, it’s being rumored that South Carolina is getting a diff xfer portal guy from Vandy. Supposedly Murphy is in Corvallis today which seems like it might be a 2 school battle? can the Beavs come out on top? Haven’t heard anything further on the Mizzou QB so perhaps that hinges on what Murphy does? Also saw someone post on X that the Idaho qb was in town?
Just once I want to hear one of these kids tweet out; “After much cash and compensation I have decided to change my commitment to the highest bidder. Please respect my deci$ion. ?”
Beavs finally offer a HS QB: Wilsonville’s Kallen Gutredge. State champ and almost set a few state passing records. Actually looks more like a RPO QB. Big kid who runs well and breaks tackles. Also a high-level basketball player who plays point guard.
I think we’re his first offer, but he looks pretty good on film and he was really productive in HS. Looks like a good guy to try and develop and it’s good to see the staff working on building the QB room back up.
MHver3 post on X. Don’t care whether there’s any truth or if it’s just some dude shit posting…interesting concept.
“Hearing that TKO and an unnamed private equity have interest in helping to finance a possible B12/ACC/Pac merger. Hearing this could be a financial boon to all parties involved. The goal here is to keep the entirety of the potential merger candidates intact.”
Dude didn’t even have a chance. Was a freshman this season. I’m genuinely curious if we start to see these higher recruits opt out of the top 20-30 teams. It’s becoming clear the “top” schools can’t risk it on a young qb.
2nd evening commitment is Will Haverland, Edge rusher from Sheldon HS.
Beavs are picking up alot of guys with few or no other offers.
Or Colorado castoffs. Hope this stretegy works out…
Looks like OLB Anthony Jones just committed? Xfer from Indiana. Has a somewhat storied past it appears. Think in 2021 he committed to UW, then Texas, then eventually with the Ducks. Xferred to Indiana and now xferring to OSU.
“Jones who entered the transfer portal on December 8 cited “mental health and other personal reasons” for leaving Indiana…Jones played in all 12 games for the Hoosiers’ recording 12 tackles and 0.5 tackle for loss.
Portal rules??!!! What’re you high?! Lol. I kid. I don’t know if there is a dead period for xfers. Dudes are still jumping in today so seems like it’s more open for them than the HS players.
“That would leave two spots on his coaching staff. One of the hires will work with running backs. The other will either coach safeties or handle special teams, depending on how Bray wants to break down coaching responsibilities.”
We already figure Ford is in.
Jay Harbaugh was a ST coach who coached several all-americans/award winners, and is now coaching safeties.
I noticed Ford “liked” one of our commitments today too.
I really liked Stewart and I bet Martinez would like him back too.
Stewart at RB and Ford at ST is a possible scenario. Just seems way too quiet on the Harbaugh front, although he’s understandably busy
Sounds like Bray is at PDX to give Malik
Murphy an Uber ride to Corvegas. Has anyone seen this yet? I’d like some kind of real proof before I believe it…anyone have a social media account they can point everyone to?
Is Maalik Murphy any good?
I’ve started watching some highlights. He’s physically imposing, but I dont see quick reads or accurate throws.
He seems to lock onto 1 guy and throws into coverage.
Completion % was around 50% last year in limited action and QBR was in the 40’s.
I get that we’re all star struck, but he doesn’t pass the eyeball test to me. Would rather have BG.
Somebody tell me I’m crazy
Since he’s actually visiting, I looked at his film and highlights.
He’s a younger DJU. A big body and a big arm. He is a pure pocket passer. Not a running threat at all. So his fit is in a pro style offense with little running. Texas runs a base RPO style offense.
He’s got a very high ceiling. But his success will depend on the offensive system and coaches being able to coach him up. The offense would have to be built around him.
That’s what I see. An inexperienced DJU.
Although I did see some running ability in his high school film. He’s bigger than most defenders, so he’s tough to take down. A little faster than DJ and makes more decisive changes in direction. But also didnt run much in HS.
I worry about our OLine for any new QB coming in. Ot was easy to sell OSU to DJ last year because the returning line was one of the top preseason groups in college football.
Next year is going to be a pretty new look with new coaching and only a few returning players with experience.
As a RS freshman with only a few starts under his belt, he will undoubtedly still need to develop. Apparently he’s a big personality that everyone loves in the locker room and considered to have high leadership potential.
I watched a bunch of the Idaho QB’s highlights. He is what he is. A good FCS QB. Undersized at either a listed 170 pounds or 185 and doesn’t look like he’ll fill out anymore. Listed at 6’2 or 6’0 depending on the site. Can throw darts under 20 yards. Anything over that is a rainbow. I’d say he’s at his ceiling now as a QB.
He’s the kind of player I would think would switch positions moving out of FCS. He looks like he’d be a good DB or a WR.
Just got a JUCO RB as a preferred walk-on. Anthony Jones retweeted the announcement and said something to the effect, let’s go do this brother. RB is from Vegas as well so seems like we traded the Arnold bros for the Vegas bros. Wonder if Jones signing was a package deal too? What a wild day
I’m also laughing at the fact that some people don’t want a young QB that had offers from every single top program in the country and has already started two P5 games.
Agree totally. He started a highly pressurized game while Ewers was injured and won the game to keep their season alive for the CFP. He has been in the qb room with 2 5* recruits and Sark for almost 2 years and has been practicing against the Texas defensive front for all of that time.
He already has better game experience than Chiles, Ty Thompson or Malachi Nelson did. Better stat line than Dante Moore. Since Green is off the board, Murphy is a great get if he chooses OSU. Perhaps the bigger concern about all of these qbs would be how does BG react. So far, BG has been silent and a reliable teammate. As long as the NIL money is held for guys who prove themselves within the program and not buying players to come into the program, it is a good sign. If the philosophy has changed on that and Beavs are now trying to go buy a qb, we will be in trouble soon enough.
I’d try to land the Idaho kid as depth and insurance, and try to get Murphy as 1A, BG as 1B, McCoy 2A… and roll the dice with a new offense for all of them.
It’s not that I don’t want a player that other teams used to covet out of highschool. But now we have some sample data (limited) to look at and his stats are really not impressive. Yes, he looks the part physically and has the “stars” next to his name, but he’s not a guy that will instantly come in and make the program better on day 1. It will take time to develop.
I’m also wondering why all of those teams who really wanted him out of highschool don’t appear to want him anymore? Oregon State and Duke and that’s it?
We do need more QB depth, and he’s be an intriguing guy for that reason, but I don’t think he looks like an upgrade over BG at this time.
I guess it depends on what our goals for transfer QBs are? Immediate starter? Or starter in training?
The QB landscape has shifted and he says he wants to go somewhere he can play right away. That was the sale at UT when he came in to compete with Ewers, who had nothing but garbage time experience at tOSU.
The sample size is still extremely limited and it was his first ever college game time (without the benefit of getting broken in against inferior competition). His PFF ratings for his two starts were pretty decent, all things considered.
TT would still be my top pick out of the guys rumored to come to Corvallis, but I’m not going to act like MM wouldn’t be a win.
TKO taking equity in BIG12/ACC/PAC would benefit the conferences with: increased revenues, NIL opportunities, co-branding with UFC/WWE, advertisement opportunities and increased worldwide exposure.
There would be a contractual commitment for all member schools more binding than any GOR. It would give TKO a pipeline for talent for WWE/UFC. It diversifies TKOs reach into the sporting world and entertainment industry.
All contractual obligations to the networks would still be fulfilled. If PAC is brought in those 2 would be added into the BIG12 ESPN contract and that conference would be a subsidiary of sorts to the BIG12 where the BIG12 would fill out with 6 schools to get them to 8 for now (AZ,ASU,BYU,UTAH,UH,CU)
At first read this all sounds absolutely crazy but after thinking about it for a bit this makes a lot of sense. If the BIG12/ACC/PAC ever want to catch up (or surpass) the SEC&BIG10 this is the kind of outside the box deal it would take to get there. The networks have already decided who the winners a loser are so the BIG12/ACC/PAC hitching their wagon to the networks will just cause these conferences to fall further and further behind.
Good ole Fox colluding with the biggest ‘brands’ of the Pac to keep market share on a business model with finite time. Wish Osu would’ve left Oregon behind in 1959 and 1964.
I’m guessing TKOs objective would be to help build the brands and increase TV ratings. Then during the next TV negotiations the value will be higher and Apple/Google will get in on a bidding war.
As long as they tolerate the financial risk that is McMahon, they tolerate way too much risk.
We might as well ask the Traitorous 10 to come make some “common sense” decisions for the future of the Pac… and then follow that advice.
One of the conference commissioners has a twin brother who is associated with a PE subsidiary who does this kind of work, already. And it doesn’t involve people with questionable accounting methods.
Uh McMahon? It’s the Saudis money just so you know. McMahon is a figure head with a pretty good media mind. It’s not the worst idea I’ve heard as long as it’s guaranteed money and a place for all sports to be viewed.
Freedom from networks is the issue and the concern depending on your viewpoint of old school cable tv paradigm.
Apple deal allows for monetizing that rewards individual schools with greater following but wouldn’t t hinder or bind the lesser schools from getting creative outside of the streaming agreement.
Apple needs to be part of any new deal for PACX but that ship likely has sailed and the angst over cable losing cable viewers takes over.
Apple doesn’t need to do business with shadesters just because of money.
They have enough money of their own, and they’re pretty averse to shared equity on returns.
Looks like the vehicle in that video has a custom a Oregon State license plate similar the specialty plate the DMV made available for UO. Are those truly available? I have seem them on the DMV website?
That must mean Murphy is out? Have you heard anything about Gabarri Johnson? It seemed like he was a lock a couple of days ago, but haven’t heard anything since.
Our new strategy for qbs: must be 6’ 4” or taller, no game experience, from California or Texas, previously hyped high school 4* or 5*, spent at least the last year as a 2nd or 3rd string backup at a top 25 program…look athletic but play like a statue
I wouldn’t be unhappy, I’m just noting the shift to why we may be able to get in these uncertain times. Most of those types are on the move and available right now.
If Syracuse can get McCord, anything is possible…
Lost of linemen (O&D) and defensive players so far. Seems like we’re pretty light on the offensive skill guys from the portal. Hoping Gundy and his team will come through soon…
Coaching staff is getting a lot of guys with pretty high ceilings who had some awful coaching. This has led to a lot of them flying under the radar in the portal. Probably the least impressive guy ended up at Tennessee. Get a QB and some help in the secondary and WR and I think fans can be pretty excited about the 2024 team has long as they don’t lose many more impactful guys in the portal moving forward. Bray and his staff have really done a good job at recovering from some of the losses to transfer
Losing the safety transfer sucked. Need to get that handled.
But corners/nickel should be really good. Especially if Robinson does in fact return. Robinson one side, noble Thomas at nickel, and Ivy and piper on other side is very good. Plus Alton back as one safety. Also Skyler Thomas back healthy will be either safety or nickel if noble slides to outside
Assume Melvin Jordan, Chisom and John Miller are rotating for inside backer. Saez, MMD, Niko Taylor and the xfer from Wyoming last year are probably the ones fighting for OLB.
“Martinez has missed the last few practices here in Corvallis and his potential absence from the upcoming bowl game would be due to not being physically ready according to Hynson.”
However, the sophomore running back hasn’t practice and played since the Beavers wrapped up their regular season Nov. 24 against Oregon. Martinez is currently in his hometown of Lewisville, Texas and not practicing with the Beavers.
Hynson, speaking after the Beavers’ practice Monday, didn’t know if Martinez would rejoin the Beavers this week in Corvallis or when the team arrives in El Paso, Texas for bowl week on Christmas Day.
“I would tell you as I stand here today, he won’t play,” Hynson said. “But that’s based on how I feel based on me, what you’ve got to do to get ready for a football game. It would be a quick turnaround, and personally, I don’t think it’s worth it.”
Martinez’s availability has to do with his football playing shape, Hynson said.
“When you sit out like that, you’ve got to be ready to play this game, especially at running back. Like you’re going to take 20 to 25 hits,” Hynson said. “You’ve got to be shape to do that. It’s got to make sense for him to do that.”
Hynson said this is about protecting Martinez’s long-term future, not a punishment for the traffic offense.
They have a ton of D1 athletes in the NW region. If Tracy Ford is going to be steering kids from his group towards OSU, it can’t hurt. Think of it like back in the day when the whole TMP To Corvallis trend was happening after we signed Isaiah Hodgins. Except a little bigger
I really hope this comes to fruition. FSP has been a staple and leader in Football training in WA and the NW for a hot minute. That’s where Treshaun H came out of and who he prepped with before last years draft.
I worry we won’t have a shot at the top guys out of FSP, but OSU is a better opportunity than Idaho. Hopefully there are more former FSP alums looking to come back west. Could see some quality guys transfer in that way.
If we have FSP (thru Ford), Sitake, Bray and Keith H, not sure the last time we had that much recruiting skill/resource in Corvallis.
I am curious to see Keith’s impact, will OSU be his best performance yet? Or will he be focused on the next opportunity already? Any thoughts Nice?
We very well still could depending on the players brought in the guys that have been on the team for awhile. If they can get a good qb there’s no reason to think it’s not possible.
Said this in the last thread I believe; 11-1 is a realistic goal. The only for sure loss is the Ducks. Outside of that we have a clear path to big an at large team. The only obstacle is another lower tier team going undefeated a la Liberty this year.
I don’t think 11-1 is a realistic goal next year. We’ll be starting close to 16 or 17 new people next season. 2 or 3 of those will be new OL and we will be very young across the board. We get a good test with several of these Mtn West schools in a normal year much less the one We’ll be facing next season.
The video of Hynson giving the full explanation was pretty clear that this is about player safetly and nothing else.
Martinez hasn’t practice since the Bray hiring because he had the legal trouble that night and didn’t think he’d be playing.
So he’s down in Texas on Xmas break already and they didn’t want to risk playing him out of shape in an unnecessary game since he’s going into what will likely be his final year of college ball.
Speaking of Hynson’s video, does anyone not agree that this is one quality dude?
Well spoken, positive, and thoughtful. If, at some point, Bray needs a mouthpiece to deal with the media I think he’s the guy.
It makes sense to me when you look at the realty of their bowl prep. They’ve already put in two weeks of prep while he was suspended and had gone home to TX. Then he gets reinstated but they only have three days of practice before breaking for Christmas and then coming back for a couple more in El Paso for the bowl. Just wish they would have gotten on the same page with messaging so there didn’t have to be any drama around it.
“Damien is reinstated due to the DA choosing to not file charges but he won’t play in the bowl because he hasn’t been able to practice.”
First!!
I hate JS!!
Go Beavs!!! #1
Jonathan “River Boat Gamblin’ MF Lil Gnome Bitch” Smith!!!
That’s him
He’s pretty hobbit like. If you’re ever been close up to him, he’s a hairy dude.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/de/f9/7b/def97b96d6d23206348ee63545fdc0de.jpg
East Lansing is a long ways away from The Shire.
It’s that city of men, over the mountains and by the big lake.
Right?
Wells is a pretty good pick up on the OL. Need to either develop or recruit OT’s. QB seems like the next biggest hole after that. Seems like, as usual, we’re missing on the priority targets.
Strong safety seems like a big need with Oladapo graduating, unless Julian is coming back for next year.
I thought I saw where Julian seemed to indicate he was coming back
That would be huge. I noticed he took some snaps at linebacker this season so strong safety would be the logical place to put him.
He did. I assume seeing Arnold leave helped solidify his choice. That’s one thing we do have to offer is ability to play right away. Don’t think we have too many positions that are locked up.
He may want to come back but when I was on campus at the end of October, he had a brace on again after another surgery. Football staff person there indicate his latest injury could be career ending. I hope he can come back though.
That’s the thing. While we haven’t seen a large number of peeps in the portal…yet anyway, they’re all starters or played significant minutes and would start next year. Going to be rough to say the least. I’m not sure what the solution to QB will be. Green seemed like the most likely candidate given he was at a MW school, former HS teammate of Martinez, but I assume he was given good $ to go to Arkansas. Seems likely that we need to temper our expectations on a legitimate qb for this cycle and ride with BG and hopefully find one via HS for a few seasons later. Of course, they shouldn’t be a high recruit else they’ll leave anyway.
So you’re saying we need to recruit someone like BG to replace BG?
I’m flattered
BG is a legitimate QB. We had our best record in a lot of years with him at the helm. I’m not really worried about him leading the team again, though the QB room is rather sparse right now; that’s a concern.
I was disappointed that BG didn’t get more playing time through the season, especially when we had a comfortable lead. But now I understand. Giving him playing time would have benefited the Beavs going forward, and Smith wasn’t going to do that.
The kid does nothing but win, and we do nothing but doubt him.
I understand the reasoning for what we just went through this last year, because I bought into it.
But now that the problem has left the building, I see the light. We need an in-game coach on the field who can make the requisite calls and plays to keep momentum in our favor, no matter how insignificant the play may seem.
Just getting the ball to players in space is the goal. We don’t need the next John Elway to do that.
Wins aren’t a QB stat. He was a good game manager, but his skill set limited what the offense was able to do and we were fortunate to have a run game and defense that made up for it.
Yes.
And think how fortunate every such QB would be, if we kept our focus on the conditions which exist when we have done well–running the ball, and playing solid or better D.
It always bothered me that a certain coach had to find our identity every year, because that’s our identity. It always has been our identity. If we don’t at least try to take it to the other team, we aren’t ourselves.
Every time Oregon State football has been successful, they took a workmanlike approach to football, instead of a flash-and-dash approach. Let everyone else chase that identity. We already have our own identity, and a part of it is a guy named Earthquake.
Wins absolutely are a QB stat. And a RB stat, and an OL stat, a WR stat, etc. BG makes everyone around him better. He’s dialed into the team. I’ll take that.
Stop!! You’re making me blush..
I was looking forward to the mobility of Green. Not a knock on BG but with how the o-line will need to be rebuilt, someone with some ability to escape and be a threat with their legs would help out tremendously. I do think BG has shown some ability to run but he’s not a true threat outside the designed plays and catching teams off-guard.
You know what helps an O-line learn best to gel and work efficiently?
Run the dam ball.
Sure, but it also helps to not have a sitting duck back there too. Not to mention, our RB room is absolutely thin. D Mart and Newell and scout team guys.
RB is needed. But we always seem to find them. We had some good RBs during the 28 years, as well.
What is needed in college football is someone who knows to throw to his check down as his first read, because he knows that’s where the play will end up, pre-snap. But he also has to look off the D, to create space for that player.
It doesn’t take a cannon to do this. It takes timing and proper positioning for what the D gives you.
It’s college football. KISS.
This isn’t to say you don’t take someone with skills.
But the first skill needs to be what goes on between the ears.
So recruiting coaches’ kids, savants, and just plain super-smart QBs should be the tactic. And those players can come in any shape, size, or speed.
I like the focus on OL/DL, so far.
Sam Leavitt commited to ASU today
I know we all saw Makiya the other day, but how’s his rehab going?
He was looking good, before he was injured.
He seems like he could be a good replacement for Mascarenas. Him and Jordan would be a good pair.
New commitment incoming. Official Bray notification
Could be any of the 3 guys who visited this weekend
Or i guess anybody else because i dont think theColorado guy yesterday was even on anybody’s radar
He had a picture of himself at Reser, so he must have visited, too.
Norris. DL xfer. Needed some bodies there so good pickup
If Aidan is 100% to Mich state then why hasn’t it been announced yet? What about the MAC player of the year from Toledo who is also in the portal and is a native of Detroit? Also some are still predicting Dante Moore goes to Mich st. Is Aidan gone for sure?
Also saw that one service said DJU was 100% to Louisville but Louisville just got a commit from old quack QB Tyler Shough today
There’s got to be 100+ QBs out there in free agency what a shit show
In Aidan’s case I’m sure he’s discussing with MSU vet school requirements, and probably taking a visit.
He was there this weekend. Maybe still there. I assume he’s committing soon
Remember JS and BL have a really bad track record of getting their guy at QB. Chiles seems most likely at this point because he already knows them and signed at OSU specifically for them.
How likely is it that Dante Moore ends up at OSU following Gundy?
Could Chiles end up in UCLA?
.0001% chance. He went there for Chipster and it sounds like the bridges were burned on the way out of Pasadena.
He’s one guy that’s had plenty of coverage from the recruiting dudes and OSU hasn’t come up at all. Sounds like Michigan is the consensus favorite.
I’d place our chances of any of these “top 20” qb’s, based on their cost, at 0%.
I’m thinking we get a FCS transfer or a formerly 3-4 star recruit that wants playing time and hasn’t settled in at their current school.
For the record, Gunderson’s two other commits at UCLA were Luke Duncan (3-star from CA) and Karson Gordon (top TX track athlete that also happens to play QB).
Yes, those seem more likely than any of these top names. I’d assume that even Ty Thompson is going to see good $ even though he hasn’t played much. HS ranking alone likely gets him more than what we can/want to pay regardless of bis limited experience. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we just ride BG and bring in depth from JUCO or those types of players you mentioned. With our chances last year it made sense to swing at DJ but we’re back in a rebuild so I don’t know if they’re really prioritizing a top guy to come in when we’ve got BG…lots of other positions need to be worked on.
I don’t get why schools would bother paying guys that aren’t proven. Like I’m sure Ty Thompson has potential but why would a blue blood pay him big money? I’d grab like a Cam Ward then if Thompson plays well next year pay him at that point. If I was a top team I’d see no reason to even bother with QB HS recruits
Yeah, I assume that Cam gets a team to pay more than they would to Thomspon, but I think he’s still outside of our range…especially in a rebuilding year.
Zero point Zero.
Hartman not playing for ND in the Sun Bowl
https://twitter.com/CFBONFOX/status/1734276556258725910
Good for us. But I’d like to see fall scholarships get retroactively revoked for kids that opt out before the end of the season (yes, bowls are still part of the season).
Bowls are post-season, just like conference championship games.
Everything that comes after the regular season is called the post-season.
If you go into the portal your scholarship is essentially over after the current term ends. If you decide to withdraw from the portal the school is NOT required to give that scholarship back to you.
I’m thinking the Beavs are going to win the Sun Bowl. It will look like a good win on paper and maintain a top 20 ranking to end the year. ND core players are all heading out the door.
So are ours. Lol. This is a matchup of, whose scout team is better than the others.
Even with Gulbranson playing OSU has more experienced QB playing that ND.
Sappington in the portal
Already lost McCormick, too, so we have no kickers on the roster now
But we have a great soccer program. Open tryouts asap
Well, Hayes might still have a year due to covid? It’s hard to keep track. Guess we go for 2 during the bowl game.
Oh god no!
Have Newell kick. We need a RB back there anyway.
Don’t know if you were being sarcastic, but the Dallas placekicker last night is 30 for 30 this year, made a 60, 59, 45 and 50 last night. Never played football, was drafted first round MLS
What are you talking about? Everett Hayes, last seasons starting kicker is still on roster.
That’s not a good thing
Yeah, Hayes was shaky at best. Could kick it a mile but accuracy was definitely an issue. Sappington turned out to be super accurate this season but he also didn’t have many long attempts. Long of 48 but 0 attempts beyond 50
Why the fuck would Sappington need to transfer? A kick is a kick. Does he think he’s going to get NIL money or more opportunity elsewhere?
I didn’t see this comment and I asked the same question below. This team has a chance at the playoffs next year and with so many players leaving on offense could see a lot of opportunities. After years finally got a solid kicker and he leaves. Idk the market for kickers but I doubt he’ll go to a team that will be higher ranked than the Beavs.
Top 10 QB recruits in the class of 2021:
1. Quinn Ewers, Ohio State/Texas
2. Caleb Williams, Oklahoma/USC
3. Sam Huard, Washington/Cal Poly
4. Brock Vandagriff, Georgia/Kentucky
5. J.J. McCarthy, Michigan
6. Kyle McCord, Ohio State/portal
7. Ty Thompson, Oregon/portal
8. Jake Garcia, Miami/Missouri
9. Drake Maye, North Carolina
10. Jaxson Dart, USC/Ole Miss
It’s probably not smart to pay millions of dollars to HS recruits.
Nope.
It’ll be interesting to see how this starts to play out. The high $$ programs have mostly given up developing QBs. That means there’s not much point in high ranked QBs committing to these programs out of HS. They’ll have to go somewhere so that leaves the next tier of programs with a pretty nice talent pool of HS kids. But as soon as they develop and show progress they’ll get a bag thrown at them and they’ll be gone.
What a shit show.
That’s the curse of increased money: it leads to increased pressure to win now.
That said, looking at that list there are plenty of nuanced stories there:
Quinn Ewers- just went to tOSU to take the money. Actually developed at UT.
Caleb Williams- went with Riley to USC. I’m sure OU offered plenty of money.
Sam Huard- just plain overrated out of HS
Brock Vandagriff- flat out beaten out by a walk-on and a younger guy. Overrated out of HS.
J.J. McCarthy- truly developed at Michigan
Kyle McCord- actually developed at tOSU for a few years and went 11-1, but HE chose to transfer
Ty Thompson- lost patience after losing out to portal QB’s. He probably has the most legitimate gripe on the list
Jake Garcia- never heard of him. He must just not have been good. Overrated out of HS.
Drake Maye- stuck around at his dream school and developed (I’m sure there was plenty of money involved)
Jaxson Dart- transferred after freshman year. Definitely “developed” at Ole Miss, not USC.
There are lots of examples of big schools grabbing QB’s developed elsewhere, but I wouldn’t say it’s the norm. Alabama, UGA, Michigan, PSU and more are all playing with their HS recruits.
Jake Garcia is an interesting story. Moved East during Covid so he could play. I hoped we would get him last time he was in the portal. Played for a big time high school with the shady coach that did the MTV show years ago.
You mean ‘Bishop Sycamore’? I got sucked into watching that on ESPN when it first hit as did my son. We kid each other about ‘whose coming out of Bishop Sycamore’ this year as a D1 prospect.
Taylen Green to Arkansas is now official
Damn. That one was the most intriguing to me
Good for him getting some of that sweet Walmart money. Make hay while the sun shines.
Maybe you can go for a motorcycle ride with Petrino as well?
What Beavs really need at QB is a mature team-first guy with high football IQ that can see the field and process the game and make decisions quickly. He’s gotta have enough arm talent that he can get the ball to playmakers by finding and creating mismatches in a dynamic pro-style passing scheme with multiple checks/options at the line of scrimmage that makes it real hard for non-NFL defenders, in combination with a dominant running game and offensive line.
Where oh where could they find that kind of guy…?
Ben G check!
Cal picked up a new QB from North Texas
Cal also had a QB in the portal, Sam Jackson
Good for them. #7 rated passer in the country according to PFF.
We’re getting lapped. At least they aren’t in our conference anymore.
Cal played a road game at north Texas this year so they must have known him pretty well
cal might be playing some “home” games in texas
UW QB Dylan Morris is in the portal.
Funny how a few years ago he was a “can’t miss” prospect according to Andrew Nemec, but we haven’t really heard his name much the past 2 years.
from a UW source….”He’s no Penix”
I’d take him at OSU. He was pretty good in his COVID freshman year.
What if he identifies as a Penix?
No thanks.
Yes, if he’s competing and not promised the job (which i can’t see Bray doing).
Beavers need competition and depth.
With no clear conference future, any “guaranteed ” QB talent is very unlikely to sign with Beavers.
What is that apostrophe covering?
Not having a schedule for ’24 released yet is killing us. Gotta believe that one of the first questions any recruit is asking is, “Who are you playing next year?”
Dont we know 11 out of the 12 teams already? Or 12 out of 12 but the contracts on the last one(oregon) isnt final?
Canzano had mentioned Virginia but I don’t see how that could happen unless UVA dumped a non-conf game. Utah does have an open date so they would seem more likely than Virginia
Yeah, I mean a solidified schedule would be nice but we know every team outside of 1 or 2
Do we know the MW opponents? I thought we just knew we’d be getting 6 MW games…
Anyone have the Wilner article where he covers Pac2 blocking a payment to P12 schools this season?
Was going to ask the same!
How could they? They haven’t had any sort of autonomy.
Doesn’t a vote have to be unanimous so they could block it by any one member voting no.
Link to same article in Seattle Times
https://twitter.com/SeaTimesSports/status/1734350641806401667?t=DM7FBYWos2Ug7-mIqBPc7Q&s=19
https://www.ksl.com/article/50815993/pac-12-legal-saga-osu-wsu-block-mid-year-revenue-payments-to-12-campuses
Kliavkoff is trying to openly fuck his employer. We need to sue that guy
I feel $60 million dollars better today….
Idaho QB Gevani McCoy, RB Anthony Woods, and CB Marcus Harris all in the portal.
X: https://x.com/isaac_streeter/status/1734337659869536656?s=20
https://www.portlandtribune.com/sports/analysis-who-could-helm-oregon-state-football-in-2024/article_2599e8b8-956f-11ee-beaf-3fea5126794e.html
Saw someone on Twitter mention the Idaho QB who just entered the portal. Anyone have any details?
Isaac Streeter, writing for the Trib (wow, been a while since Trib showed up) looks at 4 options for Beav QB. He favors Taylen Green from Boise State.
He also mentions Gevani McCoy from Idaho.
https://www.portlandtribune.com/sports/analysis-who-could-helm-oregon-state-football-in-2024/article_2599e8b8-956f-11ee-beaf-3fea5126794e.html
…who already committed to Arkansas
Gevani McCoy is a very good QB. Like most FCS QBs who are good, he’ll be underrated and under recruited. Bray and his staff should be all over him imo. If they offer him, he’ll be the starter in 2024.
Is there video from this season or last season?
Beavs lose another commitment. O Lineman. Do you think we hold on to any of these recruits? Think more than half have already decommited.
Kim taking a visit to Fresno state. It’s going great.
Need to try to hang on to Kim and Sikorsky while also trying to find more prep and transfers mainly tackles.
Seems like they would see a chance to play early here so too bad.
Sappington hitting the portal seems a little odd. He just solidified his starting spot this year on a potential playoff team next year. I don’t know where he would be looking to go. It’s not like if you kick for a blue blood it’s going to affect your draft status anymore than it would if you kicked amazing at an fcs team. The nfl will find you. The quality of your team doesn’t affect it unless you’re getting your kicks blocked. Luck O’ da Beavs we finally get a solid kicker after years and then he transfers.
Maybe because Cookus (and Serna?) aren’t being retained
Serna works for the athletic dept directly I believe. I don’t think he is football specific. I could be wrong.
It’s obvious he either wants to go where he can get a few more running opportunities and get touchdowns or he doesn’t like being the tackling dummy on trick plays that Cookus dreams up in his spare time.
lol. The frustrating part of that play was that is was a good play called at a terrible time. The play would’ve worked great on a 4th down with short distance and TIME STILL REMAINING.
To be clear, we’re not a potential playoff team. With our roster and inexperienced coaching staff, we’ll be lucky to be .500 next year.
You have to think about the schedule. If they have BG back they still have more talent ready to step up into their roles and be more talented than a lot of the teams they’ll play. Teams don’t always struggle with a coaching change. If they can play around the level they did this year that will win most games next year so I’d say it’s way too early to say that.
With our schedule ranked SOS#65 or so and a budget/talent rank around #50 we should be favored in 10 out of 12 games next year. To make playoff we will probably need to go 11-1 meaning we will need to go 2/3 over quacks/utes/boise and win all the rest. Probably as good of a chance next year as we had this year
People, we need to temper the expectations a bit. You have to remember how many people we’ll lose to graduation as well. We had 8 starters go to the portal. We lose close to that in seniors or underclassmen that are looking pro. We won’t be getting any help from recruiting class seeing we only have 7 HS recruits that haven’t formally decommitted.
Offense: unless I missed something, we’ll have 2 o-line starters (I’ll count Stark) and a potential 3rd. The portal guy from CO is give but your looking at a new coach and new scheme. BG at qb helps but he’s only been the starter in ’22 due to injuries and lack of depth. RB is Martinez and Newell and that’s it. New starting TE and Bolden is only returning WR starter. So half our offense will be new and our depth will be garbage. I wouldn’t count on portal or JUCO to supply us with the same talent we’re losing on either side of the ball.
Defense: Hodge and Golden are gone. Chatfield, McCarten, Arnold bros, Cooper, Robinson, Hart, McCoy, KO. We legitimately look to lose 9 guys on defense and our secondary is likely to include 2 guys returning from injury m, both of whom have missed all last season, and in Julian’s case, nearly 2 years off the field.
Sp Teams: at best we have Everett back but he’s a senior so not sure he had 1 more year or not. Otherwise, we have no kicker. I guess Green is back at punter?
Now, we’ll have to see the portal action but we are really looking at a situation where we only have around 7 returning starters. I don’t care if we play 6 Mtn West teams. Our roster is so young and inexperienced, new coaching staff, new scheme (even if it is similar to before) and don’t expect portal to provide. It won’t be very likely we get a bunch of P4 experienced starters coming over. We’ll get some guys to provide some depth or G5 and lower conferences.
Based on current depth chart, it would look something like this:
Offense
Gulbranson (not ideal, but okay)
Martinez/Newell (we’re fine)
Bolden/Valsin/Noga (The guys we lost were decent, but didn’t do a whole lot. Valsin and Noga have experience and seem serviceable. They both had over 100 snaps, which is more than Chiles)
Terry/Milbourn (not huge drop off here in blocking; Terry has potential as a receiver to be like Musgrave)
Strand/Starck/Wells/Miller/Morano (interior is really good, but OT’s are questionable…I wonder if Brewer can get a medical year?)
Defense
Lolohea/Collins/Seluni/Hickle
Stover/Jordan/Chisom/Tongue?
Julian/Kane/some combination of the young guys who filled in at CB
No standouts, but almost everyone has decent experience from this year. Collins, Chisom, and Morano would be the greenest. From a PFF rating standpoint, these are all guys that are at least in the 60-65 range where they’re average P12 starter quality (except Seluni). Some, like Hickle and Kane, did really well in somewhat limited time.
We need to add more talent at QB/WR/TE/OL and depth at DL/DB. We’re actually in decent shape how we stand today, though. It’s definitely not the same team as last year, but this is a bowl team and is good enough to get Riley another year on his contract.
Who said anything about expectations? I said potential I didn’t say I expect it. Our path to the playoffs is a lot easier than most schools so anything can happen.
My biggest concern with the new hires is DeVan. Gundy is a wildcard having not called plays before but Devan has coached olines plenty. I think Beav in Ohio or someone listed his previous stops and his olines performance ratings and they’re not good which has me worried if I remember this ratings correctly. I think Bray is going to be successful but his staff is going to decide that I think. Hopefully he won’t be a coach afraid to move on from guys if it isn’t working.
Yeah they were bad. The only possible redemption is he has only been somewhere longer than two years once and that was Ball State. Every other stop was part of a really bad HC tenure.
I’m not optimistic. He has a decade track record that isn’t good.
Unfortunately, I think this shows that TB’s coaching network is smaller than we want it to be. DeVan may prove us all wrong, but I’m not overly optimistic.
Devan was in Bray’s wedding or vice versa so they are pretty close.
Devan hasn’t coached plenty.
He’s been dropped into some bad situations after the last guy bailed. If all the o-line on our team graduates or leaves after next year, and Bray is fired, it will be the same situation.
The issue with NFL coaches coming to the college ranks isn’t the coaching aspect. It’s the recruiting side. Programs can’t usually afford to hire someone without that ability at these positions. So it’s hard for a position coach to break in that way. Usually they have to work into the position as a GA.
It’s the same with hoops. It’s why Musselman went and worked as an assistant at ASU for several years first, when he was clearly an able head coach.
What a miss that was. All because some idiots were making goo goo eyes at Howland, and then had to settle for on old guy seeing a rainbow in Missoula
Turnover happens fast in college football. If someone has four different stops where they had 2+ years at each and the results were uniformly bad, that’s not a good sign. Most programs can’t or won’t wait that long. OSU MBB is a major exception.
Hopefully the silver lining is that he’s a good recruiter and his personality, salesmanship, etc. is how he keeps getting these jobs.
You have to put each of the stops in context.
What’s the rate of attrition? What’s the locker room situation?
Two years anywhere isn’t a sample large enough to gauge how well he develops HS recruits. So we can’t even talk about that, unless we have a sample that adds a third year, and the attrition was mitigated by new talent coming in and getting better.
Also, nabbing Wells was a good start.
We’ll see how many recruits he’s able to keep. A couple of them (Kim) are crucial gets.
Good NIL info with collective president. Video will be up tomorrow on Digital Dams YouTube page. He hosted a twitter space on it tonight.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_NrIOKkkoCEIXUGmeqjpXA
It’s been 10 days since the scheduling announcement with the MW. Barnes needs to do whatever he can to speed up the process to get the full schedule out.
It is in every other teams best interest to slow walk the Beavs schedule announcement unfortunately. We a re now competing against the MWC for players and they are using it as another chip in the game… Luck of the Beavs gets in another kick to the gut.
Does anybody know if Brandon Huppert is the full time OLB coach under Bray? Or just the bowl game OLB coach?
I see he was tagged in this offer recently, and previously he was a defensive quality control analyst for OSU.
https://twitter.com/WillHaverlandd/status/1734420516600164702?t=Mv5B-3bYkvd9QrWgJGT-Pw&s=19
I haven’t seen an official announcement.
Huppert does have a coaching history, so it wouldn’t surprise me if he was the newly promoted, full-time OLB coach. Bray said last week that he’s got all his defensive coaches, just haven’t been announced. If that’s the case, if Huppert was still DQCA, he wouldn’t be talking to a recruit on the phone. It would be Bray, or one of the 10 assistant coaches.
How long until we hear all of these guys officially hired? I hope they’re recruiting their asses off in the meantime and that the current players know who these guys are.
No idea on the official announcement. Seems unusually long, even for past hires.
Is this the defensive side of the ball then? Tuiaki DL, Huppert OLB, Cooper ILB, Perkins CB, Heyward S/DC ?
Anybody hear anything on possible RB or TE coaches? Thanks.
That’s what I’ve heard but hadn’t heard cooper I don’t think. Who is he?
AJ Cooper. Coached LB’s at Sac State this year. Was a defensive GA at OSU last year.
Jon Boyer for TEs
Thanks!
I winder if they’re holding back on announcing the defensive assiatants until Heyward’a season is over?(if indeed he is the DC)
That could take awhile though
They do convert certain guys from non contact positions to on field coaches when they’re in scenarios like we are now(short staffed with ongoing recruiting and a bowl game to coach for)
So there’s a chance he’s just interim OLB coach, but the fact that his profile page has a header listing him as the OLB coach makea me think it’s permanemt.
Yeah, I’ve seen in the past an interim coach change the header for 2 weeks and then change it back. This seems like it’s legit. Congrats to Huppert.
Not announced yet but likely permanent to coach that position.
Former Beaver DB named head coach at Willamette:
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2023/12/former-oregon-state-cornerback-aric-williams-named-head-coach-at-willamette.html
Finally read a little bit about Liberty. Geezus that’s a crazy school.
An odd and disappointing opponent for a Fiesta Bowl I’m sure. But, that’s what the Quacks get on the way out of the Pac….
TVs should be turning off by halftime or mid-Q3….
Watch, the Ducks end up losing like USC to Tulane last year. Doubt it but anything is possible these days.
Riley Leonard, Duke qb in portal, supposedly on a visit to OSU
And he just committed to notre dame. Maybe that visit is the bowl game. Lol
OSU = Ohio State, there was no world where he even returned a phone call to ORST. Leonard was the #1 QB in the portal
The posting online actually said OREGON STATE.
Mich st folks think Chiles and Velling are on campus now and will commit to them today. This is also finals week at OSU so I would assume they would have to take some finals to make grades? Do football players actually take finals anymore?
Well Chiles was for sure there this weekend. Not a stretch to assume he’s still there and I’m sure finals can be taken remotely or other accommodations can be arranged. Hadn’t seen Velling post anything but if they committed anywhere except MSU that would be a huge shock.
Beavs are recruiting the “there’s not much NIL available here and fans hate him” QB from Marshall, Cam Fancher.
Excellent! We also don’t have much NIL and I think most our fans like our players? Based on his 2023 stats, I’d say hard pass. I guess we need some depth but dude threw for 11 td’s and had 11 picks. 2100 yds passing. Seems like our backups could do that much at the very least.
Just start recruiting for the wing T and get a bunch of small fast rb/wr…
We offered a local kid from Sheldon. Currently committed to Idaho. We’re thriving
Are we talking Haverland?
Good.
We need to at least offer the best in-state talent at their position groups. That kid can fill out and be a really good DE–very similar to Swanny.
6-5 220. I’ll gladly take him.
It’s not like we’re asking freshman to play immediately.
Someone told me he has an 82″ wing-span.
He certainly played like it this year.
Not so much against the offer as it is the timing/optics. Why weren’t we all in on best in-state talent anyway? Now this gives the impression of desperation.
Yes, Tuiaki making an offer to a DL who happens to be the best in the state is highly suspicious and reeks of insecurities galore.
Optics. Why weren’t the Beavs all over this guy from the jump but only now when half our recruits have decommitted, etc is there any interest? He has decommitted from Idaho so it seems likely that he’ll be Beav.
Good.
This is a win for us, if true.
You will likely be loving the optics in a couple years.
There’s another kid up at Jesuit who I wonder why we aren’t pursuing him.
He’s a space-eating interior DL.
We just need some more “War Daddy’s”
Can we call them something like “big timbers” instead?
Easier to build a dam with them.
War daddies are all chaotic, and their offspring are undesirable.
So long as they wear their “big boy pants”
Frazier, one of our decommitments makes it official for MSU. I’d assume a slew of commitments for Traitor Smith today/this week.
While it sucks that we’re losing several 2024 commits to MSU, it’s not like we had one of our stronger classes in recent years. All of the Pac2 uncertainty was keeping our class somewhat limited, outside of the OLine.
So Michigan State can celebrate their new MW level recruiting class all they want. They’ll learn soon enough that they are basically building a G5 team, with a promising but inexperienced QB and solid TE. It will take some time before they’re competing at the level they expect.
OSU has 8 2024 commits temaining. “Of those eight, two have offers from Michigan State. Running back Brandon Tullis had an official visit to MSU last weekend.”
Who’s the other?
I thought we did have a good class with some great players at the top. Many rated around 90. Not a lot of commits but the ones we had were good ones. I figured that’s how recruiting was moving. Take small classes and then fill in from the portal.
Young and Stewart would hurt, because they fit in with who we’re supposed to be.
But I like the guys who come from the region and will run through a brick wall for OSU, not their coaches.
Kim is in HS what Fuaga is in college. I want that tree trunk of a person protecting my QB.
Sometimes I wonder if Jordan Poyer would have ended up a star at PSU, if he didn’t have that 5* game at Reser.
I thought Jake Reichle stood out this year, as well. He got a little over-excited a couple times, but he at least has the talent and time to be in those positions and learn to dial it back just a bit.
If there’s one thing I’ve learned over the years, It’s that HS production at any level is translatable to the college level, because that production comes from a good work ethic. Nobody who is a top athlete has ever not worked to become that top athlete. Give some of these kids a training table and some guidance, and they have consistently turned out more than gems.
This makes me want to go on another Terron Ward rant, but I don’t think I have the energy for that.
But seriously. How does the CIF rushing leader not get any offers, especially not one from us?
Friggin’ pissed me off.
And the only reason it pissed me off so much is because I previously had to watch Mike Hass walk on to Oregon State.
With what eyes were we (or anyone, for that matter) watching him play his senior year?
How was OSU Ryan Nall’s only offer?
The story was nobody could decide what position he should play. Too small to be a linebacker, too short to be a TE, but too big to be a RB.
Whoops!
His first three runs for 10 yards and a TD was some of the most beautiful football I’ve seen.
And that team never showed up again, at least not like that.
A QB transfer who we appear to have some momentum with is KSU’s Adryan Lara. He’s worth keeping an eye on.
https://247sports.com/college/kansas-state/article/kansas-state-football-2023-2024-transfer-portal-entry-departure-exit-adryan-lara-221599092/
Yeah, good sign that WSU recruited/offered him.
We also offered him out of HS
Interesting. I wonder if he leans to going back to Wazzu, since he was committed to them at one time.
Clownzono article on future of Pac 2:
https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-pac-2-asking-questions-network
Interesting part to me was the Pac 2 network could be paid to provide production to ESPN or others for non Pac2 events/games.
BYU for years sold their home game rights to ESPN. ESPN did all their home games except 1-AA games. BYU was paid $6 mil per year from 2011-2017. Then it was re-upped in 2018 for a new undisclosed fee, but likely close to $10 mil per year.
But since we actually own a network I don’t see why we would just let it die. There are many different sports and on top of that we own the rights to all of the pac 12’s old games that we could put on the air at anytime. Fuck ESPN just air all our games and WSUs games on the Pac 12 network
They’d need to offer it as it’s own stand alone streaming service. The problem the entire time has been access. Download the app on to your smart TV and launch the fuckin thing any time like Netflix or Disney.
The biggest part of this with our network- is that we can sell an app to view just pac12. No bundling, no Comcast/dish/direct tv, no YouTube tv or sling etc.. just pay $5 a month or whatever and have it.
Now with only 2 teams, not as cool. But that’s what is needed for every conference or nba/nfl
I’m pretty sure someone answered this question in bowels of this forum already but…. what happens with the players who enter the portal and don’t find a landing spot. We treat them like a new recruit correct? We decide if they get a scholarship or if we want them back on the team correct?
It is just so sad that we are at this point in college sports where it has come down to he with the most NIL money wins and player are all free agents who are looking first at how much money they can get. Don’t get me wrong, I get it and if my kid was in the middle of this I’d want him or her to benefit as much as possible too. But it is just all sad and breaks my heart to see where we are at now.
If they enter the ports they forfeit their scholarship. If
They want to return to the team, it is staff discretion to return the scholarship or let them be a “walk-on” to rejoin the team.
The sad thing is if you enter to check the fee agent market, you have declared your intentions to leave and the staff needs to operate on that assumption and then uses resources to find the replacement.
So only the high value targets (qbs) with a lot of tampering get an advantage by leaving. But a lot of guys hoping for better circumstances get lost in the shuffle and may not have a spot in a giant game of musical chairs where dozens of chairs are pulled at each possible landing spot.
Negative recruiting under the guise of NIL whispers/promises are certainly happening which creates a grass is greener mindset and a lot of these young guys take the bait and probably regret chasing the bag if it costs them a year or two of eligibility.
Bray needs to focus on finding great D2 skill players and FCS linemen who can make the jump up to P5, as well as blue blood transfers who want a change of scenery and need a second chance.
Those who are in the portal and withdraw only do so if they’ve been re-recruited to stay.
Those who are leaving for sure already have something worked out, or sometimes a variety of solid choices.
Only asking because haven’t seen DJU get pick up yet unless I missed it.. as well as others.
DJ is going on a visit to FSU. That’s the only real interest I’ve seen.
Nope. DJU is visiting FSU this week I think. I’m not sure what our interest would be in trying to bring him back to be honest. We’re in a rebuild. Not sure a 1 and done qb is helping us at all.
Until we have someone who can beat him out at QB, we should have our doors wide open to take DJU back, rebuild or not. Success breeds success. We want to win as many games as we can next year and increase our ability to recruit as well as media coverage.
DJ is chasing whatever bay BignDave can conjure up because he isn’t seeing an NFL roster and this is the end of his dreams to cash out on DJs high school legend.
I bet he makes it as an NFL backup QB…too damn big, strong-armed, and a bit mobile, to pass up.
NFL loves measurables, and there’s always some coach who thinks they can address QB flaws.
Trust me I was extremely hopeful that DJ could be dramatically different in JS system but he has major accuracy issues on certain throws and doesn’t process the options well at all under duress. NFL guys will of course be fooled by his pro day results but any scout worth his pay will need to address the consistent drawbacks of his limitations.
Clemson saw it and we saw the same issues only from differing offenses.
Completely agree. There’s just no way he doesn’t get a shot and a team takes a flyer on him. Who knows maybe with nfl size wideouts he’ll be decent. His better path is probably in baseball at this point. He could probably make more and have a longer career unless he blows up somewhere this season. He should consider playing on the baseball team. Someone who can throw 95+ is always welcome.
He would have to become Ben Roethlisberger-like to me, but I’m not seeing it.
I’m not saying “no” to it, think his presence in locker room and leadership would go a long way, but I’m sure he’s looking to get NIL money…how much is he worth to us in our position? Should we drop $750k – $1 mill? Would he bring us that many more wins than BG would? That’s what I’m measuring it against. If he is willing to come back and be regular player not getting the big, big NIL dollars then by all means, stick around.
I’m not sure about his “presence in the locker room and leadership”, especially after he left to look for greener pastures. You make a good point when you question how many more wins he might bring than BG.
As for baseball, wonder if he’s got the control and concentration required to harness that 95mph fastball.
Who knows but the dodgers were willing to take a chance on him.
I saw on some nil site his value was estimated at 675k, more than any beavs nil should pay
There’s a USC db Fabian Ross in the portal that we previously offered in 2022.
He didn’t want OS when we had a conference, an experienced coaching staff, and a 5 star QB entourage.
What in the world could have happened to make him change his mind and join the Pac2 OSU?
em route. Fat fingers and autocorrect are a bitch for an old man.
His team is playing half their games on the other side of the country and maybe wants playing time?
Ya think he would rather play against MW schools vs Michigan, PennSt, and Wisky?
Don’t want to travel to the Big House or Happy Valley when you can go to San Jose, Fresno, Boise, and the like.
Hope I got it wrong and he (and others) from the departing 10 are open to the idea of playing for the Beavs.
But I would spend recruiting time, energy, and resources elsewhere. Just my opinion.
I hope our coaching staff doesn’t have your inferiority complex.
Jay, you don’t know shit about me.
Fuck you in the ass Just Jay.
Kiss kiss sweetheart.
Well, that didn’t confirm his statement.
U forgot San Diego, everyone likes going there
“We ain’t come to play SCHOOL. Classes are POINTLESS”
– Prof. Cardale Jones
Remember that guy? He needs a role in the new BSPN super league c’mon someone make it happen
More staff hires announced
https://osubeavers.com/news/2023/12/12/trent-bray-announces-five-more-hires-for-oregon-state-football-staff
Finally. Tuiaki is the headliner here and will be huge in recruiting and development. This is an upgrade at DL.
Before it went behind paywall, Daschel announced the new hires and also said:
Oregon State has three coaching positions left to fill, but all are in the works. The worst kept secret for defensive coordinator is Keith Hayward, who is expected to join the OSU staff sometime after the 2023 NFL season ends.
So that would be special teams, dc, and I would guess another secondary coach?
Watching interviews with Gundy, he has real Mike Riley energy. Wow. A certain portion of the fan base is going to love him.
That is horrible news and a bad trend. Bray is in trouble if he isn’t bringing in high energy intelligent guys who don’t sound like Mike Riley
I would counter – did Brian Lindgren sound any better than Mike Riley?
I guess I’m asking is Gunderson a worse recruiter than Lindgren, who sucked balls as a recruiter.
I’m not saying I want a Riley type coach either
I can’t see Gunderson being a dynamic recruiter, but maybe I’m wrong. I have a hunch UCLA’s QB’s were committing to Chipster, not Gundy.
Gundy does seem more likeable than Lindgren, so there’s that.
I thought he was in charge of recruiting, when he was a younger GA.
Mike Riley energy is exactly what we don’t need right now. This is such an underwhelming hire. We need guys with a chip on their shoulder, not the happy to be here and find our identity type.
Are we new to coachspeak?
I’m proud to be a part of this. I’m here to make this place all I think it can be. And I will not stop until it makes the most of all the opportunities I see in its future.
Big difference in sounding like Mike Riley and being Mike Riley. Lots of coaches sound like Mike Riley while being interviewed.
Exactly. Let’s not panic until we see what these guys produce. He might be an amazing play caller that is a little awkward who knows? He’s the big wildcard not having called plays yet.
Yup. Decent pedigree without much experience. He’s a blank slate, like a QB who has been holding a clipboard. Hmmm…
Depends on which Riley, early Riley (good) or late Riley (bad)
Speaking of Gundy, does anyone have any idea what he’ll run for an offense?
Who besides Chip has he coached under?
He also coached with Brennan at SJSU prior to Chip.
I didnt watch them much but do remember he was there the year SJSU played the entire Covid schedule on the road and also went undefeated. That SJSU team had some players
Gundy was QB/PGC coach in McGiven’s offense at SJSU, ironically the same offense he ran when he was at OSU with GA, basically spread with an inside-zone run game and air-raid concept passing scheme. I hope they stick with something more pro-style.
McGiven’s offense at OSU was more like “snap the ball, then let the QB figure something out.”
They likely won’t have the personnel for a pro-style, at least and until they land in the B12 and can recruit again…
Ty Thompson just canceled his visit to NC State and rumor is he will be visiting OSU
Donte Moore is now the favorite to end up at MSU.
Some fuel to add to the speculation. Ty Thompson also recently started following Newell, Martinez and Sibo.
He only follows 218 accounts, so it’s pretty easy to scroll through and see that is not true.
Now do instagram
I didn’t know instagram was a thing in recruiting, sorry!
lol… IG isn’t a thing….
lol
If you don’t understand, then think about why Lupoi is called X-Box Tosh.
On Insta or X? I’ve seen posts on X referring to him following some guys on Insta. I don’t have an account there to verify. Some really interesting stuff though if true and with the Dante Moore to MSU rumors. Portal watch is so wild
Instagram. Damien and Sibo are his most recent 2.
Wait, Moore and Chiles? Or is Chiles not going to MSU?
I know very little about Thompson, but would be fun to see him thrive after leaving UofO
I can’t imagine Chiles going to MSU if Moore goes there or vice versa. I read somewhere that betonline just posted odds and MSU is the favorite to land Moore. Does Chiles return? Seems like a lot of the big schools have already picked up their QB.
If both go to MSU that would be another kick in the nuts.
Not sure but betting sites have More 4/5 he will end up at MSU.
Chiles not going to MSU would be so brilliant. JS and BL not even being able to recruit their own QB? Priceless.
This Ty Thompson stuff seems to be a little internally driven by the Beav fanbase. Saw one twitter site for a podcast whonis calling OSU the favorites to land him, but it’s a podcast run by Beaver fans. And the evidence seems to be “a handful of our players follow him on IG”
Sure, they may help speak it into existence, but at this point that seems to be the extent of things.
Give me Chiles back any day though.
Chiles is gone and he’s not coming back.
The other evidence is that TT also canceled a visit to NCSU, so that’s one less school he IS committing to. Our chances improved!
I did see a screenshot that shows Ty liking the post that says he’s a frontrunner for Oregon State. Might amount to nothing, who knows with the portal, but definitely seems to be legitimate interest there. Moving sucks. Maybe he’d prefer moving 40 min north vs other options.
Can we trust a former Duck in the locker room during next season? I’m concerned that maybe he is getting a bag of money to be the final destruction of OSU straight from Nike headquarters.
Kind of in jest but kind of not…given the treachery that has already occurred.
Yes Tyner is a good example imo
F ing lame
Brandon Tullis, rb, decommits. I’d expect MSU commitment as he visited the other day. We need some serious RB help. Very thin and I think Newell is done after next year and D Mart will go pro, our RB room is all walk-ons if I’m not mistaken.
It would help to have a position coach
That’s what I was thinking.
Any news on a RB coach, ST, or S&C?
Notre Dame starting Tackle Joe Alt declares for the draft and wont be playing the bowl game
The Sun Bowl sold out faster than any bowl game and will also feature fewer regular starters than any bowl game.
Last year Florida had 17 players sit out the Las Vegas bowl. I count Notre Dame at 15 so far, so they are trying to break Florida’s record.
First ever 8-man football Sun Bowl!
And both teams rely on two-way players!
ND fans are crazy. BG and team actually might have to prepare for crowd noise, likely a Sun Bowl rarity.
Grayson McCall committed to NCst, so that might explain Ty Thompson canceling the visit more than any interest in The Beavs, but who knows? I can’t see Dante Moore and Aidan Chiles both at MSU, that makes no sense. One is willing to be a backup for multiple seasons?
Agree about Chiles and Moore – they won’t end up at the same school.
I think it is highly unlikely Chiles returns, but I do wonder how hard Gundy is re-recruiting him?
Could be. I do think there’s enough “smoke” to say Ty to OSU is more than just a fan movement but definitely far from a guarantee too. Might become more likely though as days drag on. Some of the other P4 schools are getting their QBs so if he wants a legitimate starting opportunity vs sitting on the bench, the window is starting to close up a bit. I’m sure that has to be our recruiting pitch for portal guys, outside of 3 or 4 spots, everything is up for grabs. In most years the “open competition” verbiage doesn’t really mean much but this year it means everything for anyone looking at OSU
QBs can get to the NFL from Group of Five programs (which is sort of what OSU is right now for better or worse). They just need the snaps, coaching, and of course skill. NFL scouts will find them. Chiles could have really shown his “stuff” by staying at OSU. I sort of hope they both land at MSU just to see how the pot-bellied gnome handles it. The x-factor is NIL money which we don’t have any true insight too, but even for a million, I’m not sitting on the bench with that skill!
The best QB’s in the NFL right now went to Wyoming, Texas Tech, and Mississippi State so anyone can produce a top QB.
Joe Flacco throws for 300+ and 3TD… for Cleveland.
Yes, an old guy from Delaware can still kind of play.
Now that I think about it, this era is ending very soon because all those guys would have transferred elsewhere for NIL money. All were on very average college teams and none of them won anything.
Seems like they won some NFL jobs.
Prolly
Ty Thompson was a 4* commit and on the Ducks roster for 1-2 seasons(?), practicing their offense, but they again take an upper classmen transfer. No loyalty to a kid on their own roster…
3 seasons. They must not have liked what they saw in practice. His game highlights (all from garbage time) are not exactly inspiring. It’s hard to decipher much from that, though. He clearly has all the physical tools necessary.
‘Hey 5 star qb recruit, you should come wear sparkly outfits and sit on our sideline while we continuously rent a qb during your stay in eugene’ doesn’t sound like much of a recruiting pitch
You of all people should know… there is no loyalty anywhere.
NDSU HC leaving to be a DLine coach…$$$
Bray with the Beav signal.
Let’s go! Seems likely that it’s the Sheldon kid with offer and decommited from Idaho yesterday but several possibilities for sure.
We had at least 3 other official visitors since Friday, so could be any of them too.
I think we had 4 commitments as of 3 days ago, but Bray seems to be letting them be announced 1 day at a time
Probably the USC db the Beavs lost out on in 2022. Understand he recently became available. Fabian?
Stanford TE Yurosek entered the portal. Would be a great replacement for Velling, IMO.
Let’s raid Stanfords roster and get a couple of linemen, Add in their qb Austin too right? And maybe the wide receiver.
While I think it’s probably a long shot that Ty Thompson comes to OSU, it is interesting to see that before he committed to UO, apparently he was visiting places like Iowa State and Cal. Not exactly powerhouse programs. Maybe he would actually prefer a program like the one Bray is trying to build…
https://247sports.com/Player/ty-thompson-46081511/TimelineEvents/
That doesn’t sound like Eeyore thinking
Beaver Twitter is suddenly alight with “big news coming.”
Any guesses? Seems like it is cryptic enough to get everyone hopeful and prepared for another Charlie Brown/Lucy sequence letdown… life as a Beav is difficult
I’m going to guess they are teasing us with word-play and it is “huge” news because it is the huge, 6’10” OT from Colorado.
University of Oregon is folding and all assets are to be transferred to OSU
blech!
They can keep their cemetery of a campus.
Except for Hayward.
I’ll take Hayward.
And then we can sell the rest to buy a track team.
There’s a court appeal that was supposed to go under full review by the WSC yesterday.
Given how silly the arguments are, I wouldn’t be surprised if that ends pretty quickly.
Hmmmm
Free popcorn at Legendary Gill this weekend.
this ^ lol
It’s so much better to just drop some good news than to leak something about big news, have everybody get excited and then inevitably be let down when it doesn’t meet heir definition of big news.
And improved lost and found!
Otterpops for all
Beaverpops!
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/39105796/judge-ruling-favors-ncaa-athletes-seeking-2nd-transfer
So for at least the next two weeks we’re just gonna go ahead and throw some gasoline on the portal bonfire?
Just saw some notes on that. Will be interesting to see how much action this causes for players that had already used their 1 xfer.
I don’t think I would take that chance, because the rule is in place for the welfare of the SAs. It’s why grad transfers are given freedom. They’ve put in the work.
It can probably be demonstrated by any competent legal beagle that the long run gains of stability in SA academic progress far outweigh the short run paydays without future promises.
We’re back to being the 1970-80s Beavs, right?
What was my prediction, half the roster transfers? What are we at now?
9 outgoing players so far. Definitely not a mass exodus. However, the quality of the outgoing guys is high and quite painful.
Sappington
Velling
Arnold bros
Dju
Chiles
Overman
McCoy
Congrats, looking for a medal or something?
Right now, OSU is at 9 players gone. not quite half the roster LOL
Says the guy who got all over me about saying Smith would 100% be gone. No comment on that, huh?
Again, looking for a medal or something? You were right about Smith. Why keep posting in literally every thread that you were right about things? is it really that important?
Fair to say more than half the offensive production is gone to the portal or graduation
Someone help AB with the math. Does 50% of 85 = 8??
@mfarrellsports: Updated transfer portal #s for the PAC 12; scholarship player entries during this cycle (since 8/1):
Utah: 12
Washington St: 12
Arizona St: 11
Cal: 8
Oregon St: 8
USC: 8
Arizona: 7
Oregon: 7
UCLA: 7
Colorado: 7
Stanford: 5
Washington: 2
Total: 101
No need to remind us when you’ve been right, wouldn’t you agree?
God dammit, now your gonna root against the Beavs and tell us you told us so after any losses next year
Have any former players followed Smith to MSU? Honestly I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Chiles went elsewhere. Smith’s bridge-burning exit didn’t make him any friends in the locker room and I don’t see a lot of guys wanting to follow him to the next spot.
Even if the individual player wasn’t bothered I think there’d be a lot of peer pressure to not go to MSU.
None of the portal guys…yet. Chiles seems like a forgone conclusion though. Haven’t seen him visit or linked anywhere else. All the recruits are following but players not yet. I could see velling eventhough I haven’t seen a visit there by him. I’d assume McCoy is heading to a TX or SEC school. Lot of offers and he’s from TX.
Rumors are that uo is paying Dillon Gabriel $2 million to play for them with NIL money!
Try 2.5 and offering Dante 1-1.4 to be a backup. Then will match to be starter in 2025.
I noticed the OSU 247 and Rivals reporters both started following Ty Thompson very recently.
So maybe there is smoke to that rumor.
There were some comments that went to spam. Just got to approving all. If you didn’t see your comment, that’s probably what happened to it.
fwiw, one guy I chat with is saying we’re still actively recruiting Aidan Chiles to come back and it’s not some half-assed attempt.
doesn’t really mean anything at this point, but I know somebody on here asked if we were even still trying
It’s a lot to lead OSU in the next couple years.
It would certainly be a huge statement that would generate a lot of buzz about him and OSU.
From a marketing perspective–as well as a wear and tear one–tearing it up in the badlands might not be a terrible choice.
But there’s money involved, and he’s got a pudgy quitter of a teddy bear that will comfort him.
It does say something that he went on his visit to East Landfill and didn’t instantly commit. I don’t know what it says exactly, but it says *something* haha.
There was a pic of him on insta with another players parent on his MSU visit and he still had an OSU bracelet on and commenters were pointing it out.
What if Aidan went in the Portal just to troll JS and Lindgren out of spite and Bray’s been in on it the whole time?!!?!
Makes sense we wouldn’t give up and it’s a little interesting that he hasn’t committed to MSU yet. Can’t imagine we can match the NIL but maybe everything else about Corvallis, OSU and program can help tip the scale. Unless he’s been taking visits elsewhere and they haven’t been reported, what’s the hold up to MSU? Hard to believe he’d go to another school without a visit so that seems to leave MSU and OSU as the 2 spots.
NIL has very little bearing on ACs decision. He wants a good fit academically, great coaching and teammates, and solid football environment. He is happy in Corvallis and trusts Bray and the University/Community. When JS left, he needed to look at his options.
East Lansing is not Corvallis. He would have to adjust to the community, university, new teammates, and coaches. Plus I doubt he has a high level of trust in JS. I don’t know if he’ll come back to the Beavs but I won’t be surprised if he does. It will depend on if there is another program that he feels more comfortable with. Might be MSU or another program or I could see him committing to a team nobody expects. Regardless I’m confident he’s not basing his decision on NIL.
I can give good reasons all day long for making a plan, finding yourself in the right place, and sticking to the plan.
I also wonder how much having BG as basically another QB coach working with you?
And we always have to remember these are kids with personal lives they’ve established, outside football.
It’s a lot to think about in a short amount of time.
You sure about that? I think NIL had something to do with it. Kelze Howard, one of the prized recruits of last year’s class indicated in his live videos on Instagram that Aidan was getting a lot of NIL money to go to MSU.
IMO Chiles is making a BIG mistake by leaving OSU. He was going to be the next QB here and a very good one. Dante Moore is probably headed there and it looks like Dylan Riola, the top prep QB in the country along with another kid are visiting. He’s definitely not the guy in EL if they are bringing in other QBs of his caliber.
Chiles should have stayed here but I think him coming back to OSU is remote. He fell for NIL and it’ll be a decision he will soon regret.
whatever
you don’t know a man’s heart
it’s the easy thing to do, sure
or maybe it isn’t
I have no great expectations, because MSU thinks they bought Chiles, when they bought Smith. And Occam says they’re right.
But Chiles will succeed wherever he goes. He has a head on his shoulders that matches his game.
Judging a kid for accepting life changing money isn’t something I’m gonna do. I think all things being equal (financially) Chiles would stay but life changing money is life changing money. Maybe even enough to start a vet clinic so no judgement from me.
That said, if he stays he could be a legend. Hard to put a price on that and he’d still get to be a veterinarian and achieve his life goal.
Do you wanna be a legend?
I think bill had pointed out earlier that he is probably checking out the veterinarian classes and to see what would transfer and all of that academic stuff. But hopefully he will come back and is at least considering it at a high level.
With this new court ruling dropped today, do commitments mean anything?
What i mean is if a guy transfers to 1 school, what’s to stop them from transferring to another school a month later? the NCAA isn’t allowed to force them to sit any longer, so there is no 1 and done free pass rule or grad transfer rule. it’s just a free for all.
Could a player, in theory, play week zero at 1 school, and then transfer to OSU if they don’t like their situation at the first school?
With OSU’s late fall term start date they could still enroll in time for Fall term. and play a full season.
What if Chiles is the big commit?
Then we’d all crap ourselves.
Lucy’s not like that.
That is Lucy holding the ball… isn’t it?
This just posted on X:
Anthony Hankerson @Hankk_22·
2m
Extremely blessed ! ?? Corvallis let’s work !! @BeaverFootball
@KyleDeVan68
@Coach_Bray
Running Back from State of Florida.
Transfer from Colorado. Hey, I’ll take P4 players all day and we def need help at the RB spot. Question is…who recruited him? Lol. Gundy? I’m not aware of us hiring a RB coach yet. Secondly, I’m hoping there’s still a big name drop here yet to come? Based on some of the reporting, there was supposedly some big news to break and I’m not 100% sure this would qualify as that? Regardless, good pickup and has 2 years left as well.
This absolutely DOES NOT qualify for the “big news” drop. Yeah, OSU needs RB’s… but this isn’t a “big news” commit. The only position that deserves the hype thats been served on this is QB.
Where did the comment that it’s big news come from? I know bray just tweeted a beaver and a lock.
Machado and Hedberg. Jake Hedberg at 10:51am this morning- “Huge commitment on the way”
This is good. This is solid. It isn’t “huge” by any stretch.
Ya they want to hype it up every time but maybe it wasn’t the commit they were thinking. There seems to be some momentum happening and I think we’ll see more come out later.
Hedberg followed up “Not the recruit we were hearing was announcing today”
Thank you.
Where’s the HUGE news? lol
Isn’t that Yve’s school… or was it his little brother’s HS?
Yves went to Boca. Gio went to STA.
Hankerson was the lowest rated starting RB in the conference by PFF. Decent season the year before that, though. Looks like Fenwick-type depth at the position, which we needed.
He’s more a Jam Griffin kinda back.
I just meant from a production standpoint. He’s small and fast, yes.
He will be a nice change of pace compared to Martinez and Newell.
What we really need is someone who get involved in the passing game and can block.
Yep, saw some small film and he was in on a few screen plays. Def missed that element this year
I remember Trey Lowe being clutch on third downs. He was really good with the option/Texas routes
Here’s an idea:
Put a FB back there with the TB, and have the FB block before releasing.
I’m getting strong Terron Ward vibes about this Aaron Ramirez kid out of Coachella. Kid’s 5’5″ and a buck-50, but all he does is kill teams.
I imagine his size is why he doesn’t even have a recruiting page that I can find?
Multi-faceted player who seems to make cuts and take two steps before anyone realizes he’s made the cut.
How did Champ Flemings work out. These days to call fair catch on KO.
Was Flemings the top producing receiver in Cali in 2016?
The point isn’t that a kid just shows up.
It’s that they sustain success, even when they’re a known quantity and schemed against.
I’m going to guess Cathedral has some resources Coachella Valley doesn’t, including a broad talent base.
Sometimes you do need to know the context of what kind of athlete the kid is.
A look at Oregon’s statistical leaders says wilsonville’s c/o 2025 WR is a good get.
And I hope he does play for the Beavs… on the baseball team.
We managed to land 2 of Colorado’s top 5 offensive players by PFF rating (Hankerson was #4 and Wells was #5).
Lucy strikes again…Charlie Brown is on his back wondering what happened…. Huge news lol
Mama Machado-AKA Lucy
All hype for subscriptions and “insider info”
Looking at the recent commits, it’s a bit underwhelming but the measuring stick is if they are better than G5 players.
1. Nick Norris. There better be something in the film that stands out. Coming off an injury year where the team went 0-11. Does he pass the measuring test? No
2. Van Wells. Scraps off the worst team in the PAC12? They better be good ones. Coming out of high school, only 2 P5 offers. Survived the purge of Deion one time but not a second. Does he pass the measuring test? Maybe
3. Anthony Hankerson – Productive in the limited role he had. A lot of P5 offers out of high school. Maybe a change in scenery will help. Does he pass the measuring test? Yes
Wells was Colorado’s best OL. Do a little digging and you’ll find the CU fans were disappointed to lose him. He’s a good pick up.
I did my digging. It showed Colorado was a bad team. And bad teams usually have bad players.
Or bad coaching…see Deion..completely over rated, as the rest of his staff
Careful Bill. Prime is keeping receipts on you…
Bad teams also have talented players buried by bad coaching, so maybe we are getting a couple of those guys.
So you agree with my maybe grade
I’m skeptical of Prime’s dumpster fire as well. Every transfer from there should be taken with a grain of salt because of the circus and the emphasis on getting Shedeur yards/tds and Heisman hype. Nothing else mattered beyond that for year 1 of Prime…
And start losing good players.
Unusual broad brush from you.
Think Daschel (?) Posted that his PFF scores would actually have had him as our 2nd or 3rd best O Line this year. So it does seem like a great grab despite being on that Colorado line. Honestly, regardless if these are splash guys or not, at least getting some P4 dudes to xfer in is a big deal with what we’re facing. Haven’t seen any film on Norris but the last D Line we got from Northern Colorado turned out to be pretty good. I’d say Joe Golden was easily our 2nd best lineman this season.
Ya Golden really progressed and had a good year at a not so flashy position.
4 OL made all conference. Wells did not so maybe those scores aren’t so accurate?
I think it was his pass blocking score that was higher but overall not so much.
Yes his pass blocking score was around 80. Run blocking was lower. That thing about being our 2nd or 3rd best OL is incorrect.
I’m a little suspicious the Beavs could be hiring Thomas Ford for either the RB or Special Teams coaching positions.
A little inexperienced at the collegiate level but has strong Northwest recruiting ties, especially around Seattle where his brother TJ Ford runs his 7v7 program.
He was also on Jimmy Lake’s staff at UW briefly
https://govandals.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/thomas-ford/728
I know they have a. Badass running back that just hit the portal.
Thought they also had a good QB that hit the portal too?
Oregon State Vandals…. Slightly worse than MWC.
Actually a good strategy to go find the best of the FCS and see how well it translates to where the Beavs are for now. Perhaps Ford is bringing his best 3-4 guys- may be a good start at replacing some of the portal losses on the offensive side of the ball.
The Idaho fb program after all the horrible years under Paul Petrino, not so much his fault – bad AD & admin & the Kibby Dome finally had a breath of life. A glimmer of success and everybody leaves.
That sounds familiar. Where am I recognizing that from?
Linfield grad who played under Locey and won a D3 championship before the Leipold/Kehres stranglehold on the title took place.
Remember when there was that false narrative that the Beavers were somehow exceptionally (unusually?) adept at taking advantage of the transfer portal? Ha! I suppose that was pre -NIL?
How times have changed in but what, 3-4 years?
Yeah, the waived sitting year screwed any advantage we had. We were able to pluck a few guys buried on depth charts at the end of training camp before Fall term started at OSU
Ya that glimmer of hope when we were picking up former four stars.
Some of those early 4star guy’s followed Bray from Nebraska…I bet Bray is a closer on the recruiting trail once the dust settles and he can dial into it more.
Avery Roberts is still here.
Max Torres, recruiting analyst covering Yucks, posted that 4* WR Jordan Anderson is visiting the Beavs. Either today or tomorrow. He decommitted from Oregon last week. Maybe he was mixed up and meant to commit to the Beavs all along.
His offer list is pretty good: Georgia, Texas, USC…
Or maybe oregon will start viewing us as oregon’s developmental squad. Let the freshman get experience for a year before bringing them up to the varsity team with no transfer delays
If I was a school with tons of NIL money I don’t think I’d even want very many high school players. Why gamble on paying them NIL money when they might be busts. I’d spend most all my NIL money on transfers that are more of a sure thing.
Here’s Jordan Anderson’s twitter page, for anybody who follows players.
@AndersonnJJJ
https://x.com/AndersonnJJJ?t=U6UKjRClYg6B4RaXsWR1MQ&s=16
Actually, his old twitter acct was hacked and he’s now at @JordanCBC
I can see several of our coaches follow that acct
It’s not beyond the realm of possibility he has a connection with Thompson and wants to play with him.
Poaching a WR from the Phighting Phils while also showing them up on QB development/opportunity/loyalty would be a little fun.
And we’ve noted there’s opportunity for a WR. Durant and Anderson on either side doesn’t sound like a poor man’s WR duo.
Ugh! I keep forgetting who is holding the ball. I need to stop the daydreaming.
New transfer commit this AM.
Jakobe Thomas from Middle Tennessee State. Has a pretty good offer list as a transfer including a few SEC schools. Not too often we beat out Auburn or Miss St for recruits
https://twitter.com/jakobethomas2/status/1735324945985523878?t=wT1sp4_HkotAfBmL2UPHag&s=19
Looks like a nice get in a position of need.
Nor A&M
Based on his size he looks like our next nickel to replace Ryan Cooper
PFF calls him a safety. Good rating in 2022, rough season in 2023. Should compete for a spotting job.
Trimming the fat. The pac12 is laying people off in 2024, hopefully GK is on the list. https://www.bizjournals.com/portland/news/2023/12/14/pac-12-layoffs-tv-deal-san-ramon-hq.html
A very solid offer list. Big kid at 6’2 190 with room for some solid weight gain. DB room just got deeper.
We lose all of our starters next year but it’s looking more like a reload rather than a rebuild for the secondary.
So the big news was just silence?
Rivals recruiting reporter, John Garcia, saying a top edge rusher from South Florida is visiting this weekend. I’m not seeing a name mentioned though.
https://247sports.com/Player/shamar-meikle-46141314/
Not a super impressive offer list per say, but a good frame that could pack on 30+lbs and be good outside guy.
Twitter user says Kansas @ Illinois next Sept 7 has been taken off the schedule. We happen to have an opening on Sept 7. Possible Illinois dropped Kansas game to play the Beavs instead?
Another new AM commit.
Mason White, the TCU transfer DB who visited last weekend.
Hell yes! His JUCO film is the best I’ve seen since Steven Nelson. Been waiting on this one. Goddam this staff is producing. F’ing love it!
Is KHJ possibly doing some work for the Beavs already?
Bray told conzano last week that he is consulting with his yet-to-be-named DC on decisions
Beav in OH – can we get PFF info on these new Beavs? Always appreciate this information. Thanks man!
White didn’t play enough snaps for his rating to be worth anything.
Thomas was MTSU’s second-lowest rated starter on defense at 54.9. He had a 72 rating in 2022. Typically I’d say subtract 10 for a smaller conference player and that should tell you how good he’ll be at the P4 level. So he’s averaged 64 the past two seasons, 64-10=54. 54 was Calvin Hart’s rating, which made him our lowest rated defensive starter. In sum, he’s probably more of a depth player than anything. Maybe he has some amazing athleticism that’s getting him SEC looks or maybe we’re going to convert him to a different position? Who knows.
He did hold his own against Alabama with a 60 game grade, so there’s that.
I guess MTSU is FBS, so it should be more like -7. That would make him roughly a 57 against a P4 schedule, maybe a 60 vs. our mixed schedule.
60 is roughly an average starter in PFF terms.
Utah just added a 2024 game @Utah State.
So we won’t be playing the Utes next year
Correct me if I’m wrong, but xfers so far: 1 OL, 1 DL, 2 DB, 1 RB.
Addressing some areas of need for sure. Would love to see a WR and QB pop though too!
I actually really like the two WR recruits we have.
They look like ballers, and they bring different abilities. But they have a knack for just catching the ball.
Card could be good, hard to say with the other freshmen that were on the squad since little to no action. Supposedly Hatten looked good in super early practices but was injured. Valsin seemed to catch everything thrown at him, just didn’t get much of a chance. Wouldn’t hurt to grab a WR though. But I agree, Malakai Durant dominated this year…Definitely excited to see him play.
Need a OT or 2
Looks like OSU/WSU could be joining MWC in basketball starting next season
https://collegehoops.today/rothstein-files/mountain-west-in-discussions-with-both-oregon-state-and-washington-state-to-join-league-for-2024-25-basketball-season/
Can’t tell if this is a bad sign or not. On the one hand, “being in discussions” is pretty vague – Barnes and Co. should be “discussing” all options at this point. On the other hand, if we’re hoping to reconstitute the Pac at some point, you’d think that new conference would include the non-football sports, so why give up on that for 24-25 for basketball already?
Sadly, we’d at best be a mid MWC team too. I wonder if this is strictly for convenience. Planning an ind football schedule would be hard enough much less a full basketball season.
I think they want to re form the PAC for football as its the money making sport. Having the other sports in different conferences might not be the worst way to go. Would be easier to schedule games and help with travel. What’s easier, trying to re build the PAC 2 in baseball, etc or joining a conference like Big West or WCC?
Seems like a bad plan. If you truly want to work with the better MW schools to form a new Pac, then go the distance and include all the common sports.
Looking at their websites, all the MW schools also field teams in most of the sports that OSU does (football, baseball, softball, m&w basketball, w soccer, w t&f/cross country, m&w golf, m&w tennis, volleyball) – so why not form a conference for all of those?
The iffy Beaver sports that don’t have as many MW counterparts are men’s soccer, wrestling, gymnastics, and women’s rowing. I’d rather focus on joining non-Pac conferences for those sports and have the majority of the sports still under the Pac umbrella.
Let me be clear, it should read “many of the MW schools also field teams in most of the sports that OSU does.” Not all.
Considering the PAC’s performance in recent years, this could be seen as a step up.
Sadly, it is.
There are some fun venues to watch college hoops in the MWC.
I just wish I could watch my school’s team play.
At some point in my life, I’d like to see a recruit criticize God rather than praise Him in their de-commitment announcement.
“First and foremost, I want to blame God for encouraging me to commit to this shithole in Eugene in the first place.
With that being said, I’d like to announce I will be de-committing from Oregon”
You won’t be asked to jesus birthday party next week if you keep talking like that
Are the 2 transfers this morning the big news that was going around last night?
Gotta ask Jake Hedberg
I’d still argue neither commitment qualifies as “huge” news. Unless they’re trying to say a cluster of transfer commitments is the huge news.
So many Beav fans keep predicting or teasing this huge day, but let’s be real, it’s not a stretch to think a program is going to land several transfers after a coaching change. that’s just normal business.
Huge would be a 4* or 5* commitment from a player that has a ton of other SEC/Big10 type offers.
Or a transfer of a proven top tier player who has shown that ability at his previous stops.
To me, a Ty Thompson coming in to play QB is not HUGE, so that better not be it.
I agree with all that you wrote, 100%.
BTW- I heard the schedule comes out today.
Although I agree that Ty Thompson transferring here wouldn’t be huge news, he did look remarkably better this year. Given the years before he looked pretty bad so not a high bar.
Thompson to me would only be huge if it meant he had some guys following him who were only at oregon because they wanted to play with him in the first place. So maybe that’s part of why that WR decided to de-commit and visit OSU?
But now we’re really stretching the definition of huge news.
A recruiting uptick with notable players could be huge, overall.
I imagine these kids bring recruiting value of their own, especially when they spend time camping with a lot of them during the HS years and being in the spotlight the most.
Plus, this guy tells a compelling story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mstaGsYHohY
Kid stays loyal to his HS, because he’s that way. Kid is super smart. Kid stays loyal to his college, because he’s that way.
Man finds out his college isn’t loyal to him.
I’ll take that loyalty and that chip on that shoulder. I thought he looked good this year. Cristobal did no favors to the QB room at UO, when he was here. Even Herbert’s talent couldn’t overcome the poor development arc.
I’ll call Thompson huge news, and I’ll roll with that chip on his shoulder.
I also like that he put down roots in Oregon… and is compared to Aaron Rodgers in his play.
Rodgers had his own doubters early in his college career, and that’s why we only had to suffer the one game he just blew us up.
Compared to WSU, we’re doing pretty well so far.
Sigh, the “HUGE” commit that they we’re hyping was Jakobe Thomas because he had offers from Auburn, Texas A&M, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Louisville, and West Virginia.
Lucy strikes again.
Does anyone know if Andre Jordan is still on the team? I only ask because I went to the roster page to check how many games he played in and it says “No statistics available for 2023”. Usually that info’s only removed if a player is no longer on the team, but he’s still listed on the roster.
Wondering the same thing. Was looking at a parcipitation report and I noticed his name is not hot-linked like everybody else’s
I think he redshirted this year, because he only played in four of the last five games, getting the most reps in the CW and looking pretty decent.
We’ll probably see him play in the bowl, with McCoy gone.
Wouldn’t the bowl game count against his redshirt and he loses that year if it is game 5?
Bowl games do not count, afaik.
He played in 3 or 4 games, so he should at least show up on the participation chart, regardless if he recorded a stat or not. It’s odd that info isn’t available if he’s still on the active roster.
Chiles is a Spartan
Chiles to MSU is official
Lucy strikes again.
That’s okay by me, because I always pronounced his name as “Chilies” instead of “Cheyles,” and now I can avoid that embarrassment.
No need to say his name again.
This says to Ohio St
Wern’t we supposed to have heard something from the Washington top judges today?
the WSC will decide what to do with the appeal by end of day tomorrow.
One of my more reliable people I chat with is telling me there is still a big announcement that Beaver nation will like today.
So yeah, still very vague, but at least it’s a sign that the huge news didn’t drop yet.
I’m starting to think we just need to get used to the definition of huge not being what it used to be when we were a P5 team, but what do i know?
Machado confirmed that the “HUGE” commit was Jakobe Thomas.
“Machado confirmed”……. *eyeroll*
We’ve been reduced to a fanbase that thinks getting a mediocre S transfer from MTSU is “huge.”
She is a loon if huge news is a transfer from Middle Tennessee State.
She is likely desperate for subscriptions and overplayed the hype or she has lost her marbles after JS left town.
I get that Beav fans are needing good news anywhere it comes from these days but cmon. Middle Tennessee State is huge news?
BeaverBlitz needs a huge reset for what to call huge news. My guess is it is a cover story to save face because they thought Chiles was actually coming back and MSU dumped a lot of last minute NIL $. So Machado had it all prepped to be the first to announce “Huge News for OSU!!”—-Chiles is back, but immediately then reduced to MTSU transfer is “huge news we were taking about…” yawn.
Nothing against the kid but it pales by comparison to huge news such as DJU transferring to OSU out of the blue.
Hyperbole is the death of journalism.
So we have a big commitment coming or not?
“Big news,” not necessarily a big commitment
‘Big news’ from mama Machado about as valuable as a weighty cologuard box
Ducks announcing Civil War dates for next year and ’25
https://goducks.com/news/2023/12/14/football-schedule-adjustments-include-home-and-home-with-osu.aspx
Those are just non-con games against the Ducks.
The CW is a Pacific Conference event.
If we’re being technical, the CW is a politically incorrect defunct title as well… ;)
Only if you’re the wrong side, which would be the team to the south.
The would call it the war for we don’t want to play with you any more.
It will ALWAYS be the Civil War to most people who have grown up in Oregon.
I grew up in Oregon, went to the Civil War in Corvallis and the Apple Cup in Seattle alternating years. It is not the Civil War anymore. The Civil War implies we are partners. Oregon is now a Midwest Liberal Arts school, I guess they can have a Civil War with Indiana or some other Midwest school.
Wazzu also announcing schedule.
https://wsucougars.com/news/2023/12/14/cougars-announce-2024-football-opponents.aspx
Gotta believe OSU shouldn’t be far behind with an announcement, right?
Spoke too soon.
OSU schedule is released
https://osubeavers.com/news/2023/12/14/seven-home-games-highlight-2024-oregon-state-football-schedule
https://osubeavers.com/news/2023/12/14/seven-home-games-highlight-2024-oregon-state-football-schedule
Schedule
Some notable teams we play even if G5. Not happy about playing the Ducks.
If it goes into 2026, when we have a full conference slate, then I’ll start complaining about it.
But we need filler material, for two years, and they should feel shame for harming the state’s economy.
Fair point
Nope, Would rather play an additional G5 school. No justification for taking scraps. Embarrassing.
The next two years are nothing but piecemeal.
Would I much rather have a Notre Dame or UVA on the schedule?
Dam right I would.
But that probably isn’t happening on short notice, and it probably isn’t a h&h for one of them.
I simply disagree, As I said, find another G5 opponent. Anyone but UO. I don’t care about schedule strength. Playing Oregon is just inexcusable to me. I get many disagree. Honestly I am embarrassed by it. It is embarrassing to take Nike U’s scraps.
It’ll be more embarrassing when they go home with a L.
No, OSU still looks like the one begging for table scraps. I have so much respect for Oklahoma State refusing to schedule Oklahoma. Might watch that OSU instead. Oklahoma State has the guts to say no.
Preach it youngorst!
A little underwhelming, especially since all the talk leading up to this was there would be 5 power 4 opponents. Looks like the last one never materialized and we added SDSU for yet another MWC game. Also was hoping we’d be able to slip at least one of those P4 opponents later in the season in addition to the game against WSU.
Was hoping for a game @ UVA
Alas, we play MW teams that are about the same as mid-P4 teams
I kind of forgot about the Minnesota DT that will be eligible this year. So there’s one more addition next year that will help with depth.
More home games than road games is nice. BSU and AFA on the road could be better. We should be favored in every game except Nike, right?
Cal will be a toss up. They should be decent.
Cal looks like they lost their RB Alt. But I’m not sure if he’s transferring or declaring for the draft. He’s not with the team apparently.
weird, my notifications tell me that for oregon commit Jordan Anderson posted something, but when i went to check it had already been deleted.
he’s supposed to be on campus today
Wonder if they’re considering Parker McKenna at all? Had a really good season at Portland State. Wash State offered him. Getting quite a bit of interest and offers from G5 teams.
Aaron Hampton decommitted. RB/Ath. Recently picked up Cal offer.
He was a walk on
didn’t like our schedule…
What is this bullshit? Every time Barnes spoke for the last 4 months he said there would be 5 power 5 games.
This is a failure by Barnes. I wonder what happened to cause us to lose the Power 5 game that he had promised?
Just because he promised it doesn’t mean it was going to happen. Also said we keep our coaching salary pool at a p5 level and then slashed it immediately. He’s a snake oil salesman. He will say anything to get a positive reaction regardless of how true it actually is
They do have a P5 salary. That doesn’t mean they’re going to overpay first time coaches.
The assistant pool is actually more then it was this season.
We are playing the same 7 game MWC schedule as every other team in the MWC. This is after we cut our coaching budget by 3 million a year. For all the talk about funding the program at a P5 level, they are not following through with their actions
SOS should end up being similar to P5.
The top two MWC SOS rankings were BSU and SJSU (70 and 76). Both played a full MWC scheduled plus two P5 games.
For reference, Notre Dame’s SOS was 63, FSU’s was 60, Michigan’s was 56. So this would preclude us from a high ranking. We’re basically playing a ACC/Big Ten-quality schedule.
*Won’t preclude us from a high ranking.
Just win.
And don’t get blown out by Oregon. At home. On national television.
Idaho State, @SDSU, and Purdue were already scheduled. They were trying to add Notre Dame or Louisville but it hinged on the date the yucks could make available and if they’d be able to move around the Idaho State game. Continuing the civil war is a big state/local politics and commerce thing, less about college football/conf realignment. It’s likely they did have a game with Notre Dame or Louisville tentatively scheduled but if fell through because the timing didn’t work out.
I wish there was one more Power 5* game but that stretch in Sept should be fun (yucks, Purdue, @CAL). If they can get to October 5-0 there’s no reason they can’t make a run to the 12-team CFP.
If WSU holds strong on their class as they have so far and can find a QB in the Portal they should be decent too, fun way to end the season and a windfall that the Beavs get them at home.
I think it’s worth keeping in mind that the the next conference dominos are likely to have already fallen by the time they take the field against Idaho State, and they won’t be playing next season under a cloud of total uncertainty, they may very well have a Power 4/5* conference home by then in some form.
Also the WSU game is not on rivalry week. Seems like we should be making a bigger deal about it, it is the conference championship game whether people think that’s funny or not. It will suck if our season is already over before thanksgiving
If we beat Oregon we’re absolutely in the NY6 even if we lose three games.
NY6 isn’t a thing anymore.
Oregon has an extremely tough schedule next year. It would not be surprising if we end up with a better record than them and also a higher ranking.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39112544/oregon-st-qb-aidan-chiles-follows-coach-smith-michigan-st
Chiles on JS and why he’s following him to MSU:
“I knew he trusted in me, simply because I’m 17 and I’m getting a lot of reps I shouldn’t be getting,” Chiles said. “I saw that they believed in me, he’s putting me out there. He trusts me to go win this third drive and put up some points.”
Chiles also said that he developed a strong personal relationship with Smith, who would call him in his office on occasion and just ask him about school and life. The depth of the relationship mattered.
“He talked to me as a person, not as a player,” Chiles said. “I liked having a conversation with a coach who cares for my well-being.”
Kid doesn’t realize he got played by a con-artist narcissist. He put you in the game for a series (at detriment to the current team) because he already knew this was the old place that he was abandoning so he could convince you to come with him to the new place, not just abandon the old “special” place.
I wonder if anybody told him Michigan state is going to go 3-9 next year
Have fun QBing a complete rebuild with only 3 years left.
He’s getting paid. Good for him.
Yeah now the 3rd series every game (except the Civil War after the ink was dry in East Lansing) makes a lot of sense in hindsight and too bad Chiles doesn’t have wise counsel around him to counter the creeper vibe of JS.
So Chiles sitting out the Civil War in protest was a cover story lie too? Liars can’t keep their stories straight.
Just take a deep breath and let it go.
I have a feeling we’re not so bad off.
Ok I’ll let it go. Thanks for the admonition.
Let the kid get paid and move on in life. It doesn’t directly affect me anyway so I can simmer down.
that’s pretty much what I tell myself.
I never understood why some coaches were punitive toward kids, back when they had dumb rules about, “You can’t go to any of the schools I list,” when they transferred.
You’re going to get upset about someone leaving? Do you seriously want someone who doesn’t want to be there in your locker room? That doesn’t sound like a great recipe.
And to show that you’re a complete dick, you want to punish them on top of it?
The pendulum may have swung the other way and have issues of its own, but that used to be a thing, and I just never understood it.
I get what you’re saying but I think it’s more of a commitment to the school and team that’s being broken that bothers people. Hence so&so committed to oregon state, then they just pack it up and leave like nothing happened a year or 2 later. At one time that “commitment” meant something but with the pandemic trasfer changes and NIL that loyalty is gone. It just is what it is.
They had such a special relationship that js up and left the dude and started bromancing Dante Moore?
Good for Chiles to get paid tho. Seems dumb to follow a quitter like the Hobbit
Stop bad-mouthing Hobbits.
Some hobbits are bad. Gollum used to be a hobbit.
fwiw
2023 records of our 2024 opponents:
Idaho St (3-8)
SDSU (4-8)
Oregon (11-2)
Purdue (4-8)
Cal (6-6)
UNLV (9-4)
SJSU (7-5)
CSU (5-7)
Air Force (8-4)
Nevada (2-10)
BSU (8-5)
WSU (5-7)
Good shot at 11-1 or 10-2. Air Force always produces a quality team.
Trip to SD in early September sounds nice, think I’ll have to look into that.
11-1?
I figured all the Beaver Juice was gone after last August.
It’s beaver 4 loko now.
Yeah. How is that not reasonable?
We have no idea what the team will look like and Beavs have coaches on the low end of experience. I’m still trying to figure out how an 11-1 team is not going to have a chance with the Ducks.
What do you think Reser attendance looks like with this schedule? 18-20K per game? Near sell-outs?
Attendance will be fine. The idea that you need to play USC to fill Reser is nonsense. Win games and people will attend. I am boycotting due to the Oregon game but I think the stadium will be full if they are winning and won’t be if they aren’t.
Purdue was trending up at the end of the year.
Beavs recruiting UT backup and one-time big-time recruit Maalik Murphy. At least they’re swinging for the fences on QB recruits. We’ll see if Gundy can close the deal on someone.
I like Murphy, but I think Thompson has more to prove and has the tools to do it.
Watching Murphy this year, he seemed late on reads, but still made the plays, because the wrs were so open. I know that changes with experience, but I think Thompson has the moxie.
Murphy actually has more game experience. He also has more eligibility.
I think they would be on the same level from an excitement/impact standpoint.
true
I wonder if DJU started something of a trend by choosing us for a year.
And we did get a bunch of free publicity this year, for better or worse. I like the idea of good players choosing to rise to the challenge ahead of us. They have easier/safer choices, if they want them.
It’s a smart move if a guy is looking to cash on on NIL. Especially those kids that are mid to high 3 stars that have some good tools but haven’t developed fully. Spend a few years in a lower division and maybe tear it up by your redshirt sophomore year then trasfer out forbluebirds.
It made me sick to write that but it’s the reality we’re in. If your not a high dollar program you’re essentially a development school/league for the bluebloods.
Yet here we are doing it to Nikegon, not the other way around.
Maybe, I’ll believe he’s coming when I see him sign the papers.
Came across this duck podcaster who is saying thompson to OSU has legs and he met with Bray.
https://twitter.com/TheDacotaHaynes/status/1735416627410465224?t=RBNINMYuP0pZZOQVjBip1Q&s=19
Dacota Haynes
@TheDacotaHaynes
Per reports, it sounds like Ty Thompson may be headed to Oregon State. He had dinner with Coach Bray and Jalen Moore a couple nights ago.
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What’s the best place in Corvallis to take a recruit out to dinner?
yummy yummy
Monster Burger at Clodfelters
Caves maybe? Seems like the fancy restaurants like Castor or Del Alma don’t really vibe with 20 year old kids necessarily. Corvallis really needs a place like The Gables back.
Izzy’s?
Is Izzy’s still open?
They destroyed them all down here. I thought the company went under.
Squirrel Burger in my opinion… : )
Or del Alma for something more formal…maybe Local Boyz for a youngster…
Hopefully we didn’t pay for his hamburger basket. Can’t have Bray start off with some violations.
and he deleted the tweet…
#fakenews
i reached out to see why it was deleted. seems to be a case of sharing more info than maybe was supposed to be shared.
Anyway, I don’t really have reason to not believe him, he seems to be a credible(but inexperienced) media guy.
His stuff was more believable than most of the Beaver fans out there saying Player A, B & C are all going to be the next QB for OSU, only to have player A, B & C all commit to another team within a few hours of the claim
If Bray was having dinner with a recruit it may confirm that Jay Harbaugh is also on the staff but not announced yet.
What does dinner with a QB recruit have to do wit Jay Harbaugh? Am I missing something?
Jim Harbaugh’s first conflict with NCAA earlier in the year was over buying a kid a hamburger on a recruiting visit…So we have a crumb trial of evidence that brings us closer to a Harbaugh on the staff. As the speculation rolls and the world turns.
The best speculation about Jay Harbaugh would be that no one has been announced as ST coach and I don’t an AHC yet (correct? might be wrong on that one). The only way they are getting him is a promotion like AHC.
that’s my holdout for hope.
I’ll just wait and hope.
Would he leave his dad to coach here? Doesn’t seem likely to me just because of the family dynamics. They seem pretty tight nit.
Depends on what Dad’s next job is
Jim is the crazy uncle isn’t he? I thought Jay was the son of John Harbaugh…Family ties of course, but isn’t the goal an upgrade opportunity and title/pay? AHC would be a good lure to get him and his pedigree along with the rest of the young guns…
Jay’s dad is Jim. John is his uncle. Jay did work for John in Baltimore at one time also.
Ya I don’t see that happening.
The rb coach that is likely the hire (NB alluded to him) has experience with ST. Don’t think there’s a staff spot for a designated ST coach like Smith had with Cookus.
Harbaugh has coached multiple positions on both sides of the ball.
I’m not saying I expect it, just throwing it out there as the only possible way.
He would be a great get because of his connections and with the money they save with bray being a first time head coach they could overpay him.
Would seem like Jay would be well served to branch out from daddy and uncle’s coaching tree.
I wonder who the S&C will be. This is one of the biggest hires not only for development and performance but because of the rules he will be the coach that spends the most time with the players. I think Macdonald was damn good and we need someone very good like him.
Is Bray going to coach a position? They already have the defensive positions covered unless one of the LB coaches is just for the bowl game. I think someone said he has 3 more positions to fill. My guess would be S&C, RB, and special teams unless S&C isn’t considered in the same group. I’m guessing KHJ will help with DBs.
S&C doesnt count towards the on field coaching group.
I think the TE, ST and RB position groups remain(unless OLB is still also not filled? Haven’t seen the announcement on that one yet)
My guess is:
Ford gets RB
Brandon Huppert at OLB
ST and TE up for grabs
Boyer is TEs
Cool, didnt realize he was hired as the official coach rather than the Bowl game interim.
I wonder if we go for a separate QB coach since Gundy is new as an OC?
Lindgren had Smith to help out on QBs, Gundy doesnt have the same support.
Smith instead had 2 DB coaches(Perkins and Blue)
Would Boyer coach TEs and help with OC duties since he was Smiths right hand man on the field?
Ya it’s only rb, and sp. teams left. Last staff had a safeties and corner coach but I would think that’s where Hayward would help
Oh man… I just thought of something.
Gruden on campus rumors… I know Jon was a troll meme.
But KHJ currently works with Deuce, who is an assistant S&C coach.
I’m reevaluating the Gundy hire as it may relate to Oregon’s Thompson or Murphy from Texas. I don’t know what connection GUndy may have had in the recruiting trail with each guy a few years back when they were high schoolers, but it strikes me that Gundy has a few elements to his pedigree worth considering for some of these guys who are looking to bounce out of a dead end P4 program due to depth issues.
Gundy has a pro style foundation with Riley from his playing days and early coaching career. He also has some quality time immersed in Chip’s classic RPO offense with a heavy run approach, giving the qb plenty of chances to feature athleticism and decision making.
If Gundy has any relationship with some of these guys, I wouldn’t be surprised to see one of them land at OSU. BG will be at a disadvantage since all qbs will be learning a fairly new, albiet likely similar offense to what we have seen. I expect, just based on new eyes and new coaches to see some differences and a bit more of the RPO stuff rather than a heavier dose of pro style we are used to with JS/BL. If Gundy hasn’t had the chance ot call his own games yet, and he has a lot of internal knowledge, he may be a great option to see how it translates as a mesh of Riley/Kelly offensive innovation/old school.
I like the idea of Malik Murphy as a Beav. He has been under Sark for a few years and must have learned from him, but hasn’t had a real shot to play, and Manning is waiting in the wings for next year if Ewers falters even a little bit. Tension filled qb room at UT for sure next year.
Ya he would be a great get but already has big time offers but not sure if he would start at some of them.
So the 3 potential transfers that our team Graphic Design guy, Jake Namisnak, followed recently are Van Wells(committed), Anthony Hankerson(committed) and Ty Thompson(quiet)
I’ve seen enough…
Ty Thompson it is
That’s great sleuthing. I love it. And thanks.
Could see it happening
Neither here nor there, but i was counting how many snaps Aidan Chiles played as a Beaver, if you throw out the 4 games he was used the most in.
14 snaps. 14 snaps over 5 games. That’s what he got for burning his redshirt.
Just enough to get him to come along with smith not the betterment of the team.
Is Ty Thompson a dual threat QB? He was rated very similar to Chiles out of high school but idk if he can run like Chiles.
Kinda. Closer to DJU than Chiles.
He’s not as fast or explosive as Chiles, but he is more of a power runner. 6’4 and a big dude.
HS film is reminiscent of Bryce Young. He does a really good job moving after the pocket breaks down and keeping his eyes down field to extend plays. Which is a good thing because his HS OL is terrible. He doesn’t seem to have much experience actually passing from the pocket between a heavy dose of designed roll outs and a lot of 1 second fire drills when the inside of the OL breaks down quickly.
I did find film from Nike’s 2022 spring game where his deep ball accuracy is shaky, but he looks good doing everything else. Word out of Eugene was that he looked totally capable in practice and no one’s really sure why the staff didn’t want to hand him the keys.
https://x.com/BillFarleyPhD/status/1735488804159717685
Oh dam
The schedule is not too terrible. Still think the Oregon game is a mistake unless the Beavs somehow land a very good QB and a couple other good players in the portal. So far, none are guys who look like they are immediate starters.
QB’s should now take more interest in the Beavs now that they can see who they will play.
Some silver lining with the schedule, there should not be any night games at home with the current media situation.
Anyone know the scholarship count?
You sure about that? MWC road games in there
And we have no idea who will be televising the home games
Yeah that’s the current situation. No media deal, homes games will be in the afternoon as it stands now. ESPN, FOX and CBS aren’t picking up the Beavs games in one offs. So the Beavs should have a large amount of influence of when their game times are. Great for people who want to go but probably on some terrible channel.
The Oregon game is a colossal mistake.
Yep, done with Oregon. I didn’t think we’d schedule them and am disappointed we did. Otherwise, the schedule isn’t horrible. Can’t expect to have 12 home games. We are in 2 years of limbo and can’t dwell on it. Hope for some court wins and a sunny future.
All the players outside of the rb are immediate starters.. the Center was a freshman all American, the Safety and CB start right away.
Was told we could be getting some QB clarity tomorrow.
Top 3 in the running are TT(Oregon), MM(Texas) and Gevani McCoy(Idaho). I still lean heavily towards TT to the one that comes out on top.
Hoping to pair that with some good news on the legal landscape.
I think Murphy is waiting to see what UW does at QB to replace Penix and could slide in there.
McCoy might end up at WSU.
Looking at that the Beav in me wants Murphy and the Beav in me tells me it’s going to be McCoy.
I read somewhere Murphy has a strong relationship with Duke’s new HC and their QB depth chart is wide open.
I think TT is most likely our next QB.
We did offer him in HS so hopefully we can leverage that but I agree with the above comment..I’d like MM but our luck will dictate that we get whoever the worst qb left is.
Well?
It’s tomorrow.
We’re waiting.
P12 Network lays off 141 employees. So it basically can’t function now, right? Does it actually have any value aside from the physical assets?
They had 192 full time employees so they’ve still got people left, and they said they could keep the lights on with as little as 10-20 employees.
I’m guessing the people laid off were related to football programming.
So the whole anti-trust thing has appeared, now that Florida political officials have stumbled on to the right idea for the wrong situation.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/networks-hold-too-much-power-over-college-football-and-it-s-ruining-what-was-a-great-game/ar-AA1lywvZ
The irony in all this is watching DJU end up somewhere where a recruit beats him out. Haha.
He may get “beat out” by Cam Ward. Wasn’t it confirmed that they are both visiting FSU? DJU is a good, not great QB with incredible arm strength and middling accuracy. Clemson did not think he was elite enough to get them back to the playoffs and I think they were correct, he’s not quite that level. If he’s after NIL money then that’s another story. He could have stayed at OSU and probably padded his stats. I think some of these portal QBs have found and will find that moving for moving’s sake isn’t always the right decision.
Maybe he comes back?
He won’t come back
He won’t be welcomed back IMO. Bye Felicia
I would welcome him back in an instant
Hope not. He’s not very good.
Jayden Ott hits xfer portal. Let’s grab him! D mart and Ott running wish bone! We don’t need a QB!
Damn, too bad we picked up a RB already, because I really like Ott’s game
Not so fast my friend….watch the whole video
this is pretty good. now I like him even more
https://twitter.com/THEJAYDNOTT/status/1735689104535191930
Did you watch the whole video? He’s staying at Cal
Just now. Lol.
Paraphrasing a comment I found elsewhere… Given the state of college refereeing over what constitutes pass interference, our next OC should install an empty backfield, Air Raid offense whose base alignment is 5 TE’s. =D
All 6’10″”
“Run 10 yards, and I’ll lob it to one of you.”
all.day.long.
It would be so popular an innovation, it will eventually drop the average height in the NBA to 6’2″.
Lol, ty for this.
The Stork Raid Offense.
Sappington is visiting Oregon.
Can’t blame the kid, dont think he was on scholarship here and Hayes has the kicker scholarship spot locked up still. He walked on and stuck it out for 2 years and has earned a scholarship. If oregon gives it to him, good for him.
And make a little change at the same time, it’s a good deal.
It appears Hayes has one year left because he didn’t redshirt in his first four years. Appeared in 4 games this year and the bowl game doesn’t count. Looks like he can come back next year.
Sappington is nobody’s fool. He knows Lanning is even dumber than JS and will refuse to kick any field goals even if it costs him the biggest games of the year.
Sappington has a win/win by getting a scholarship and knowing he will be kicking only extra points for the rest of his career.
Yeah but how is he going to pad his rushing stats?
I am stopped by Wise Cracks in Corvallis this morning and I ran into Trent Bray and other coaches. A bunch of kids and some family was with them. First who is doing official visits this weekend and two who goes to Wise Cracks. Then it hit me, is there a better breakfast place in Corvallis they could have gone too? Jalen Moore was outside ripping someone a new one when I walked out. Hopefully it a successful visits.
If Jalen Moore is super pissed off it’s probably not a good sign at that it was a successful visit lol. Probably some back stabby fuckery going on.
Jalen Moore just has attitude/temper issues. I posted it in another post, but every time I’ve seen him in Corvallis, 4 times, he’s either been yelling at me or someone else on the street about some perceived sleight. Literally every single time I’ve seen him. Sounds like other people are experiencing this as well.
I had class with this dude when I went to school there, and he never did any of his assignments. We would show up to class for a presentation and Jmo would say “What presentation”. He also thought he was a surefire draft pick at the time, so it is interesting to see that he has taken this role as recruiting coordinator. But I digress lmao. No shade, just wanted to share that story since I see his name popping up a lot.
I don’t think there is a standout breakfast spot. I like Sam’s and Tommy’s. New Morning Bakery is ok. Maybe Jalen wanted to go to Elmers! Ha!
Elmers: “We’re Not Shari’s” ™
Albany has a better breakfast spot and dinner spot than corvallis
He was on the phone.
Maybe they had a certain portal QB all but wrapped up and ready to announce but then he backed out or something, that could be a reason why the Director of On-Campus Recruiting might be blowing off a visit that was happening and going full Ari Gold on someone on the phone.
If we were a “real” fanbase like what they have in the B1G/SEC you’d have disguised yourself and stuck around eavesdropping to get to the bottom of it.
Riley mentality strikes again. /s
Watched some Gevani McCoy film. He would probably push BG, but he won’t be a big step up. Doesn’t seem to have great arm strength and has a weird throwing motion. He makes good decisions, but his arm is limited. He’s pretty quick, but he’s small so you wouldn’t want him running a whole lot.
I WILL take their running back Anthony Woods, who is also in the portal. If someone’s (NB?) hunch that we’re getting a RB coach from Idaho is real, that seems like a possibility. Woods is small, very quick, very active at the LOS finding lanes to run through and doesn’t go down easily. He would be a great complement to DM.
Looks like Woods has offers from Houston and Arkansas already. He was a 3rd-team FCS All-American.
He’s pretty small, size of Irish. Change of pace back and if he can catch, a very versatile player.
He’s really explosive. Runs zone plays well; patiently waits for the hole then bursts through it. His size is the only knock. He’s not going to be breaking many tackles.
I guess we already have Hankerson, so Woods is unlikely. They’re similar styles of runner.
Either way, I like both Idaho RB’s and I think getting their RB coach would be a good hire.
Losing Sappington for Hayes is losing a legit PAC kicker for a MWC level kicker. Really gonna hurt in close games vs Wyoming!
Don’t forget about Smith’s loss to Nevada on a missed FG a few years ago
We’re playing Wyoming?
Blitz teasing QB news today, again. Third time’s the charm?
“HUGE NEWS” per Blitz – we will sign a 4th string walk-on QB at Mercer
I heard we’re getting the backup JV QB from Central Linn
Lil’ Petey? I thought he was a make-a-wish kid.
Lol. New benchmark: is he good enough to beat…Wyoming!
TT is apparently in Pullman this weekend.
So Jalen Moore was so upset because he was just informed that TT is in Pullman and they are pooling some NIL $ to get him?
Tweet it out so everyone knows the real truth.
Dickert said we have 10x the NIL money they do, so that shouldn’t be a problem
Maalik Murphy probably told him he wasn’t coming to Corvallis because there’s no airport
Malik Murphy originally thought he was headed to Corvegas.
I’m sure he has a list and needs to do due diligence.
Man, Idaho is getting picked apart. the payoff for a little success I suppose.
Just had their DC leave for SDSU.
Lost their QB and RB last week to the portal.
Starting TE is going to the NFL.
Wonder if that means Ford will be leaving soon too?
Only thing you can do is use it for recruiting. “We had 10 guys leave for a combined $2M last year” or something like that. Sell yourself as a college career maker the way other places do for NFL careers.
Better to lose good coaches than have bad coaches stick around forever
https://youtu.be/MJguTAP-1us?si=d4kbhcbIlnMjTf93&t=739
Full 45 min talk with JS at last years AFCA conference they just put out yesterday. Link is to the part where he talks about the “unique challenges of coaching at your alma mater” that are interesting.
I don’t want to hear him stumble through another speech. What are the cliff notes?
Pros- lots of support and people in the building still from his time as a player
Cons- he felt pulled in a lot more directions than just football as an alum and had lots of additional expectations because he was a former player/alum
SO the best thing to do was to dump all over the program and burn it down as he left. What a loser, sounds like he thinks he is still a stand up guy in his own mind. He is most affected by the group who stuck it out since the original team meeting in 2018, the same group of guys who walked on Senior day this year. SO all of the other recruits through the years are less valuable and can be betrayed without remorse.
Quite irritating to listen to him.
He looked all skinny and his hair is really thinning. Somebody showed him a Rose Bowl trophy and he started talking about his “precious”
Really bizarre scene
Skinny? Looks like a walking heart attack.
I was making a hobbit reference because i’ve been saying he reminds me of a hobbit, but turned evil when he went to MSU
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz-8CSa9xj8
Yep. That’s the Midwest – fast food paradise. In two years, he’ll look like the mayor of Swallow Falls in Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs.
https://movie-villains.fandom.com/wiki/Mayor_Shelbourne?file=Original_%282%29.jpg
He was pretty puffy in Corvallis. Looks puffier now, though.
mmm… hot dish
He must stress eat. Although I’m not sure what he was stressed about in corvallis, the prick was bigger royalty then Riley. He could have grifted his way to bonuses every year for life.
CSU coach Jay Norvell complaining about how his 10 best players are all actively getting recruited by other teams and his QB received a “$600k offer” from someone else.
Really? The going rate for the 9th best passer in the MWC is $600k? Who is paying that?
Probably Deion – He figures if they buy all of their opponent’s QBs, then there’s a chance to win a game.
I saw some site that listed player values had dju at 675$
Greg Biggins reporting that MM is visiting Duke, Baylor and Beavs. Doubt we compete with Baylor unless he doesn’t like living in TX anymore. Duke just lost their HC as well so maybe we’re on more equal footing there? Regardless, I’ve accepted that we’re not getting any QB so anyone with a pulse that we do manage to grab will be a pleasant surprise.
Dukes new head coach , Manny Diaz has had a good relationship with Maliik since the 8th grade. Theres articles about it. I think Duke is the frontrunner.
Any update on the Washington SC decision today?
The news I saw was that they would make a decision on the case’s disposition by the end of the day.
High court denies the request for review. Stay is lifted.
https://twitter.com/wilnerhotline/status/1735777886555250995?t=GHZ-yFTqLvwPvmFz3-Ke4w&s=19
So was this the T10’s last option for appealing in WA?
It’s their last option.
Everyone still has to play nice for 8 months.
But that’s it.
First act of business is to fire GK immediately.
If they were smart he’d already be gone within a minute of that decision.
First act of business is to fire WT.
Then you fire GK.
It would be in the best interest of the conference to fire him. If the 10 want to save some money on his buyout, they can negotiate with him.
Holy shit! D Mart eligible for bowl! DA apparently declined to file charges per Carter Bahns!
Like I said, at least he can afford a lawyer.
I still think he should spend some time at the b&g club.
Other good legal new for OSU. Martinez had charges dropped and is now eligible to play in the Sun bowl, per Barnes
https://twitter.com/BeavRecruiting/status/1735782658091950254
We’re winning that game now!
Vegas hasn’t noticed, still giving ya Beavs and 6 or 6.5.
Unprecedented use of initials in AB lately. I hope
my decoder ring doesn’t break.
lol
Excellent observation BB
So Murphy is supposed to be visiting OSU on the 17th. But is getting a lot of interest from duke and Baylor. Hopefully we can get him to commit and not take other visits. Any qb news today doesn’t match up if Murphy is visiting the 17th and Thompson is in Pullman. Maybe it’s McCoy which I would be fine with as long as they still brought in Thompson or Murphy. I don’t like him as a starter.
He’s visiting Duke first, then Baylor then the Beavs on the 17th.
Hopefully HCTB has everyone ready for BG to lead the team and DM and DF are ready to run over ND.
Looks like GK is now on the clock. T10 can go cry in the Midwest because P2 rule the day in PACX now.
Happy that JS and BL are long gone.
WT stinks and MC can will get the boys to Omaha this year.
SB gets a pass on the schedule and kudos for hanging in with OSU and not jumping ship to UW.
Beavs across the land are feeling good today after the WSSC ruling. Let’s go Beavs!
and FTD
Awesome to see we’ve got our hands on more cash right now than the ucks will make over their six year grant of rights deal from the big ten. Damn good day!
Uncle Phil is always there to underwrite anything they need. We’ll never have the financial resources that will always be available to the ducks.
Whelp, my ring’s broken now.
Whatever liabilities the conference has on the books, they need to get settled before the end of the sports year. All schools pay their share.
Firing GK needs to happen soon. Spread the severance to all schools.
Screw the other schools. The only ones I’d give any severance to are Cal and Stanford because I can see them coming back after the ACC comes apart.
I believe Bill is saying- spread GK’s severance package among all the schools. Not that any of the T10 should get severance.
That is what I am saying. Get rid of any liabilities that could go beyond 2024 and make all 12 schools pay equal shares. So future revenues are not reduced by something that all 12 schools should have paid for.
Spread the costs of GK’s severance and all other existing liabilities among all 12 schools.
Once that is done the customary December distribution can be made to all schools, very important though that ALL liabilities are satisfied first. With court cases still in the works it will be nearly impossible to specify exact liabilities any time soon.
this from bbel facebook
“Alan Thayer
Admin
Top Contributor
Troy McCoy — The case in the Whitman County Superior Court began with motions for a temporary restraining order and a preliminary injunction and motions by the others to dismiss.
Judge Libey sided with OSU and WSU. Those decisions were appealed even though the case is in the beginning stages. This is a discretionary appeal. The court decides whether they want to take up the appeal at this time. The Washington Supreme Court decided, no. They will not consider the appeals at this point in the case.
That means the case in Judge Libey’s court continues. Discovery, motions, depositions and trial. If OSU and WSU win at trial, they will ask that the preliminary injunction become permanent.
In the meantime, the preliminary injunction granted by Judge Libey goes into effect. OSU and WSU are the only members of the Pac-12 board. The wretched 10 are likely to contest decisions made by the 2. This will take everyone back to the judge’s courtroom where the merits of decisions will be argued.
Of course, the parties could always settle. The preliminary injunction and the state’s highest court’s decision not to review that injunction strengthens the righteous two’s bargaining power.
It is a good day to be a Beaver!”
It’s all over but the crying.
Unless they have some super secret and actual arguments up their sleeves, the 10 are fried.
I think throwing a temper-tantrum and repeatedly shouting no like a toddler is all they got left.
Hire Pat Casey for commish after firing gk
Uh, some SEC school must’ve offered Jakobe Thomas a large sum of money, because his OSU commitment post is gone from Twitter.
https://twitter.com/jakobethomas2?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Maybe, but at least he’s extremely blessed!
Where’s this huge news blitz alluded to earlier this week?
The “huge” news was just a troll, it was the DB commit. They hyped it up as “huge” because he had a couple SEC offers.
And now it looks like he may be backing out lol
Maybe now we know why Jalen Moore was so pissed off.
I think we’ll be okay
Everything is huge news. Especially the made up rumors
I just saw TB at the grocery store. We chatted for a minute, he’s super cool. I asked him who our next QB is going to be and he told me. Guys it’s so huge, like you’ll never believe we could get him to come to corvallis but Trent knocked it out of the park. Please subscribe for more rumors at beaverblitz.com
For 9.95 a month I’ll tell you who it might have been
Anyone got a problem with Martinez getting off scot free? Fine example for the kids that follow the Beavs. What if it was an uck?
Win at all cost baby?
Surprised not a peep from anyone.
Not knowing the details of the case? Not really. Hopefully he learns his lesson and avoids close calls.
No charges?
I don’t give a shit. Blount punched an opponent in the face, didn’t get charged with anything, and Belloti conveniently “unsuspended” him right before the Civil War. Life ain’t fair sometimes!
Wasn’t that the Chipster?
Yeah, you’re probably right.
It was Chip’s first game as a head coach. Not a nice way to start out!
charges were dropped
Yeah the charges were dropped. But why? Just trying to think how to explain it to my Grandson. Must have been a dirty racist cop. No special treatment for a star athlete.
Sorry guys, my mistake.
Look at yourself in the mirror, you’ll see an ugly Duck.
Please grow up. This isn’t about CFB. Beavs, ucks, pirates, eagles don’t have a thing to do with the essence of my post.
Forget it guys. My mistake, I was way out of line.
Carry on and enjoy your evening.
If it had nothing to do with the essence of your post, you shouldn’t have made it central to the essence of your post… and then used your grandchild as a weapon in a concern troll.
How can you make the original concern troll worse?
Use innocent kids as a weapon, when you double down on it.
Also, why would your grandson want to know that you think all cops are dirty and racist?
Isn’t that a bit of a broad brush?
And if you don’t even know about the CPD and people like Cord Wood, just shut up.
The dirty CPD officer you may want to Google is Dave Cox. Real gem.
DUI for weed is a hard case to prove against a competent defense. My guess is the DA realized it wasn’t worth the resources especially for a crime that is statistically not as dangerous as driving while texting.
Because you can’t test for weed like you can for alcohol. There is no instant test. And if DM wasnt in possession than it’s impossible to prove he was driving under the influence of weed, despite the possibility of smell. And even smell of weed, seeing how it’s legal, isn’t enough to arrest someone
You think it’s the first time in history someone was not actually guilty of the offense they were charged with? It’s why we have a justice system, and it’s not social media.
Damien Martinez may be completely innocent. The DA didn’t want to prosecute. Could mean there was no evidence of wrongdoing, could mean the case was flimsy, we’ll never know.
That’s the way the justice system works. Anyone just assuming he’s guilty of something is way out in left field.
Getting off Scott free? How do you know that?
Only Scott knows…
And I’m not telling neener neener :d
Oregon cops routinely write DUIs when they’re not warranted.
Get pulled over and blow .04 you’re getting cuffed and stuffed and written up for DUI. They pad their numbers to justify their budget, habitually.
I’ll smoke to that. Just win, baby!
Concern trolling is just boring.
What if he was a Duck?
Well, he could have been pulled over for felony reckless driving, told the cop he smoked it all, and been on his way.
But he’s not.
So there’s your answer.
If you’re upset because he had pot in his car, I really hope you don’t tell him about that guy who took perfectly good water and turned it into wine. Anyone who thinks intoxicants are amoral because of that guy has it absolutely 100% wrong.
amoral?
*im-
ty, I didn’t notice that
Wilner reports that in November the PAC sides were all close to a settlement, but T10 pulled out.
How many horrible collective decisions can that group make? We’re probably not any worse off being tied to those idiots than not having a conference.
Gabarri Johnson entering portal. Missouri QB. 4-star (for those who care) Tacoma,WA Lincoln HS. Brandon Huffman says keep on eye on Oregon State with this one.
Crystal Ball-thing says he’s going to Oregon State 100%. Nice to have depth.
Basically a HS QB. Nice to start building the room up.
lol… the hyperbole falls apart on this claim
I think it’s fair to say that we will be linked with any qb in the portal. Lol.
Reminds me of Kyler Murray. Movement, delivery, stature, whole thing.
QB transfer portal recruiting is wild. Just a game of musical chairs with different sized cash prizes on each seat.
Gabarri Johnson would be a nice guy to pick up. But who knows, the names will flip around tomorrow on the next spin
Who’s going to be our QB today?
The one concern is his height. If he’s accurate would be as great get tho.
I’m from Missouri and a Mizzou fan and I’ve never heard of him.
WBB up 38-18 at the half over Santa Clara. Shooting advantage 47%-23%, only 5 TO’s so far.
So the guy everybody got all excited about with “Huge” news yesterday has already deleted hos commitment tweet to OSU.
Fun while it lasted. SEC money bags must have come through
Who was it?
Jakobe Thomas
And then he already decommitted, right? I am not sure he even knew what school he committed to. Good riddance if you’re that fickle.
28 point win for WBB over a SC squad that whipped nike by 29 in Eugene a month ago.
It was actually 39 if you can believe it. 89-50. One of the worst Quack losses in years.
That’s a shame
On the dam pod they said Ty Thompson isn’t a top target by the Beavs. FWIW
A heads up from thayer, also from bbel
a question about the case
Thayer
Admin
Mike Messenger — Kind of the opposite of a legal term. So many think the case is over. Buckle up, it is likely to be a long bumpy ride. At some point, people may think, “it’s never over!”
https://www.kerryeggers.com/stories/beavers-loaded-with-hitters-deeper-in-pitching-for-2024?fbclid=IwAR35kZY1B3AojVTofoJpALAd20OuJBdd3ozspEUMur_m72KckWV3UAvT6BM
With no clear Friday night guy, offense is going to have to carry the team this year. Pitching took a huge step backward last year.
We don’t have a Yeski. We are calling way too much offspeed in the form of curveballs. Works great until you hang one. Establish a FB. Your change should be a killer. Go back and watch our runs under Yeski and even prior. Lots of 1st pitch changes for strikes, outs, and championships.
Yup… throw 1st pitch strikes.
They also had a lot more talent to throw those first pitch strikes
I hated all the “nibbling” by Beav pitchers last season.
Yep, clear shift to offense and just hope the pitching can do enough to hang on. I think the tourney still favors teams with pitching and defense and we saw what happens when the bats don’t come alive last year. 1st 6 weeks of last season were pretty awful. Team avg hovered around the .200 mark. Think you have 2-3 proven commodities in the pitching staff but there’s a lot of unknowns to say the least. Should be an exciting offense…just have to hope that 6-8 guys can step up on the mound.
Why aren’t we doing what LSU proved to be the recipe?
Buy a Friday night ace.
“After losing to New Mexico State in the NCAA tourney a few years ago, Dan Hurley changed his entire approach. Instead of going with toughness and defense, he decided to prioritize shooting.
UConn 7-of-9 from 3 tonight against Gonzaga.”
Unfortunately, our coach doubled down on toughness and defense and now we’re an embarrassment.
This is on X:
Missouri quarterback Gabarri Johnson will enter the NCAA Transfer Portal. Keep an eye on Oregon State here for the former four-star QB from Tacoma (Wash.) Lincoln
https://247sports.com/Article/missouri-qb-gabarri-johnson-set-to-enter-ncaa-transfer-portal-223000143/
Started listening to Dam Podcast, and it sounds like Bray might be at the 11 coaches already so Cookus is likely out unless he stays on in some type of analyst or advisory status. Also, doesn’t seem like a dedicated SP coach would be on staff. Curious which of the position coaches will pull double duty.
Curious if anybody happens to know if we retained the person(s) in charge of recruiting media, when it is sent to prospective students and after, when announcements are made online (I’m thinking of the digital posters, player graphics, photographs in uniforms etc)?
Yes. Nicklos Bristol, Jake Namisnak, Derek Mishiro are all still listed on the football staff page.
Ty!
I think one of those people lurk here, they might be able to give some insight
MHver3 Twitter update after appeal was denied.
In the meantime ESPN prorata still on table for 2 more additions. BY watching unfolding of PAC2. If there is value there he will strike. There is a lot to unpack there and we shall do that in a future thread.
Post from this morning
The PAC12 ruling has a lot of people taking. BY May snatch them up and split B12 into 2 conferences with AQ status. BYU,UH,UA,ASU,Utah,CU (temporarily) could get shifted into reloaded “PAC8”. NCAA rules are being dissected for options to satisfy TV partners, contracts, etc. that paves the way for an ACC merger to follow a similar path that would have CU come back to BIG12. Stanford,CAL,SMU would form PAC10 and some minor shifting for BIG12 and ACC schools.
ACC most likely losing 4. ND may be a part of these 3 merged entities in some capacity but I’m hearing BIG10 may offer similar deal they currently have with ACC for Olympic sports. As we near the House vs NCAA endgame all the final jockeying for position is happening. Imagine 3 conferences (PAC/B12/ACC) subsidiaries of 1 entity that manages all revenues, 3 auto bids to CFP, utter basketball dominance, and coast to coast presence in nearly every major market. It’s the only way to compete with the SEC/BIG10 and survive what’s coming. Streaming with be a big part of that next negotiated contract. And if the NCAA overlords go away that March Madness money is going to change the game for these 3 conferences.
He also mentioned nothing would happen until the PAC12 case is settled.
(My thoughts now) I am guessing the other 10 will be coming to the mediation table hat in hand now that that have zero leverage.
What deal is there to make? They have nothing to offer.
Why would there be a deal?
Zero leverage is an understatement… and not in a good way for them.
There still has the be the final trial and a permanent injunction put in place. It will be months before that happens. If everyone wants to move on the parties will need to come to a settlement and avoid the trial. With that being said the permanent injunction will be a formality but it will still take time to finalize. It’s in everyone’s best interest to settle this thing and move on.
We really don’t need to avoid the trial.
They took all their chips and threw them in the pot, regarding the TRO.
We can let it take some months and then watch it end in a quick trial. Likely, we can ask the trial be expedited, given there will be no new information, except for what discovery has yet to be made public.
At this point, I don’t think there’s a bad email from Murthy or Schulz that would be leverage enough for us to feel the need to compromise. But I imagine the 10 really want to find some way to not let some get out. But even if they didn’t, they don’t have any arguments to stand on. So ending it is in their best interest, unless they want to continue to accrue lawyer fees for this waste of our legal system’s time, which we will make them pay.
Maybe Judge Judy can make a ruling…
She’d probably say the same thing, except not as nicely as the judge we had.
It would be ironic to see the tables completely shifted into a superconference megolith that Big10/SEC can’t over-run in the media or football worlds, nor could they diminish with revenue/streaming or basketball.
An alliance among 3 conferences coast to coast would be an answer in eyeballs, scheduling, content, competitive balance and overall appeal beyond the ESPN monopolized coverage of only SEC, and FOX only Big10.
Remember when this was attempted with PAC12, ACC, Big10? But the Big10 commish was the fox in the henhouse and shortly thereafter poached USC/UCLA? I’d say BY of Big12 has learned the lesson from the different sequences and is likely going to be the one to salvage college athletics if they can pull off a combination of mergers to include ACC/PAC2 assets and reform a PAC division within this super conference. It should be more like 10/10/10 to pull as many schools into the loop from MWC/AAC that can join in order to continue with strength in numbers against the ESPN/FOX deathstar.
Once the ACC implodes it could be a quick reshuffle and a rise from the ashes all because the PAC2 didn’t simply go softly into the night and accept the predetermined fate of MWC. Well Done Scott Barnes!
It only works if ESPN/FOX are not producing content–only buying first and second tier rights at a premium.
Which is why the biggest chip continues to be the continued existence of the PAC12 Network under the auspices of the PAC2 control.
There is a story/book/documentary about the lawsuit – somewhere. Kerry Eggers could probably sleuth it. The lawsuit was ready to go altho I can’t pintpoint the exact action that sprung it. The law firm handling it for OSU/WSU has been clinical and, for the most part, unemotional. It has been a terrific fit, so far. Who knew to choose them? When was the case being prepared? To file in Whitman County? I can’t recall if there was a time it was even threatened as if OSU/WSU were doing nothing. Who is paying the lawyers? Will it come out of any settlement?
Regarding Martinez being eligible for the bowl, I think Fenwick should get the bulk of the carries/start or all the goal line carries.
It’s his last game and might be his last competitive football game ever.
Really should give any seniors the start so they can say they did. Pull them after one play if they have to.
Get Newell reps, too
All this conference realignment will be just conferences going back to the 90’s of very regionalized conferences once athletic departments are massively in debt and the NCAA ends up being replaced. All this realignment show will just be a short term situation that blows up in the face of networks. Beavers being left out in the cold temporarily will end up being a blessing when Oregon/UW, Bay Area and LA schools come back when their athletic departments have to face reality in 2 years.
Not only are athletic departments massively in debt, but the networks ESPN and FOX will have enormous media rights contracts that they cannot pay and likely will default on as time goes on. The whole thing was a bubble inside a house of cards, being pushed from forces outside of campus/media reality. Many execs began an arms race of their own and it has been pushed through major sports for about 25 years. Until it completely runs its course and some major media companies go belly up, they could continue the charade. But we are nearing the point of reality and class action lawsuits don’t reassure any of these guys because they know they will be exposed and the whole thing crashes.
PAC2 sits at an important opportunity to be in control of major assets and power to rebuild with proper guardrails/vision and holding the west coast teams who have overly inflated egos in check as they begin to trickle back to the regional alliances they will all need. It shouldn’t be a punitive amount for the schools to rejoin a PAC conference, but it needs to hurt a little and come with specific penalties for ever trying to usurp and destroy the conference again.
“proper guardrails/vision…” does WSU’s AD have a vision for a PAC conference? Doesn’t seem like barnes would…
I watched Gabarri Johnson’s HS film. He’s a more elusive runner than Chiles and more explosive than TT. I don’t think he has as good of downfield speed as Chiles (probably because he’s shorter), but his ability to escape the rush is really good. Arm strength looks good enough. Looks like a guy that will need to learn to read defenses and play the position at a higher level, but he has a ton of potential. Best case scenario would be for him to sit for a year or two, then take over the starting job when ready.
If we were going to play more of a RPO-heavy offense, he would be a great fit.
That’s what I see too. His value is in his legs. But if he’s coming here, he’s competing for the starting job right away. Would only be competing with BG at this point.
SOS is going way down next year and still have DM to feed the ball. Growing pains would be more tolerable.
I’d think they bring in McCoy too from Idaho. Is BG back for sure next year?
Temple seems to be the only team going after McCoy so far
Fascinating story in the WSJ about Cam Ward. Talks about his journey from being a wing T QB in high school to an air raid QB. Not knowing how to run play action (he handed the ball off on his first try). The main part was about how he hit the changing landscape at the right time. Able to freely transfer twice and cash in on NIL. Schools are in a bidding war for his services right now.
He had some NIL at WSU. But did something I really did not think about what kids would do with their NIL money. He bought a house and then flipped it for $100k profit. Putting his money to work. Very smart decision.
So is it going to be Cam or DJ for the Seminoles? Who else is interested in DJ? I heard another talking head say that DJ has enough sample size to show that he has not lived up to his 5-star rating, good, but not a great college QB. Also, wherever he lands next, whether his father likes it or not, DJ will be under a lot of pressure to show improvement or he’s headed towards a late round draft choice or even going undrafted.
Well, we ended getting the super tall tackle from CO. Just committed. Lost the safety, found a center for the men’s basketball team
One of the luckiest breaks for the Beavs this post season in my mind…
We still have two weeks until our bowl game.
With all the other turmoil, the extra time to breathe and prep and practice is a win. Glad we stayed out of the UCLA/Cal bowls right now.
The Arnold bros are visiting USC this weekend. Yuck.
Mascarenas to USC.
Too bad. Hope he got paid plenty. USC is a dump of a campus and a gross area of LA to live everyday.
Perhaps he prefers playing with a lot of selfish teammates who will quit when things go badly.
Man Colby represented the university great. Outclassed seems fitting.
Whoa!
Let’s not remind people he was anywhere near our campus.
He’s a miserable human being.
Seriously people?
You’re going to support some turd who thinks valid trash talk is to make fun of the very recent death of his opponent’s father?
You can kindly check yourself off as a miserable human being.
He’s probably talked himself out of any more title fights. Might as well go into pro wrestling.
I Just saw Kim flipped to asu. That one hurts. Need to get a few more prep lineman.
face… melting
I could’ve sworn Kim said the main reason he committed to OSU was to be close to home so his family could easily attend games, so I expected him to stick with the Beavs. I guess whatever ASU had to offer turned out to be more important, though.
You know all these kids are getting negative recruited big time. Only the ones who can see the real value of OSU through all the negative crap will play for us. Maybe that’s a good thing,
It is less than a month into Brays era. I’d expect a few more to recommit but going into the next cycle it will be better. Coach M had a pretty big reputation that paid dividends and we are seeing the fallout of his departure the most which we all expected anyway. Too bad his wife didn’t insist to stay in Corvallis more.
We might need to embrace the New Mexico State model and become JUCO U for a few years. Saw they had 19 JUCO guys on their squad. It honestly could be a rough go from a HS recruitment standpoint for several years. Beav Blitz was projecting around 7 guys signing and that was assuming several that haven’t been very vocal (Durant for example) kept their commitment. From what they said in their podcast, the only one they had been able to confirm was 100% was the LB from Portland, dexter foster. Unfortunate to lose Kim, especially considering he didn’t follow coach M. That would’ve made a little more sense then ASU. Seeks likely that the Feb signing day will be more active for the Beavs, grtting any of the scraps or late portal entries.
Looks like the new offers are in the Riley mold of only recruited by Ivy League and Air Force. We might grab a few hidden gems here and there, but depth is going to drop off significantly.
Good thing for us is the portal can fill the gaps better than JC’s used to.
Maybe a form of Last Chance U… Transfer U?
We hardly knew U? 20 guys each year show up in late spring and transfer out by Dec 8 and make about 7 weeks of actual classes before they go elsewhere?
What a great system of higher education and learning.
Hahaha!!! I always get a kick out the coaches and administrators mention the “student athletes”. We all know they are there for the education first. (Major sarcasm!)
I’d also think with the portal we could do well to grab guys transferring after one year who didn’t pick the right fit the first time (like Gabarri Johnson).
Yeah, perhaps. We can develop them and they can leave in a year or 2 and go to the school they really want. Lol. Really going to be a turnstile program I fear. And it’s probably the reality for most schools not in the top 20. D Mart one of the last “real” ones unfortunately. Might be the last good name and top talent player we have that actually sticks it out until they go pro.
Both Arnold bros end up at USC. Glad we were one of the few P5 schools to offer, develop, then help them go to the school they really wanted to attend. Sad. Wonder what 2nd or 3rd string guy we can grab from Colorado though.
will this guy b their coach?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/matt-entz-leaves-north-dakota-state-to-join-lincoln-riley-s-staff-at-usc/ar-AA1liuYZ
I’m amazed that portal guys who play defense would ever want to play for Lincoln Riley. He’ll make you look worse than ever. USC went 7-5 with CW this season and without him next year and a tougher schedule and they’ll be lucky to go 6-6. If you’re gonna transfer, at least go to a school with a chance to win 9 games
My prediction was we’d lose any established players and only be left with players who were unproven who want playing time (so they can move up next year). Where are we at on this? I figured it would be about 60% of the roster.
It’s become minor league football and we are at the double A level at best.
Haven’t lost anyone since Sappington a few days ago. Portal numbers haven’t been high comparatively, but they’re all starters and key contributors. 8 guys to portal I believe. Who knows what it looks like after the bowl. Would assume there’s some that will move on after that. Wanted some extra reps, bowl experience, etc. We’ve done a good job in grabbing 3 players from Colorado though. 2 from the OL and a RB. Saw some footage of the RB in his limited plays and not super impressed by any means. He did catch the ball though so perhaps that’s what the intent is since we didn’t really have that guy this year. Our RB room is in rough shape after this season so it’s a “good” move from that perspective…need some bodies. Unless there’s a few big portal surprises over next few days, this seems like a very so-so last few weeks. I guess all thi gs considered it could’ve been much worse and perhaps this is the best that it really could’ve been. We have the opportunity to be competitive next year with our garbage schedule but the following year is a true question mark. As mentioned above, it’s likely going to be heavily relient on JUCO guys and probably even lower level guys that see OSU as a step up from where they’re at.
You’ve been way off, as usual.
But you’ll try to live off the Smith bailing prediction for the next 10 years so congrats on that I guess.
It’s the same as the last you asked.
have patience, and wait for KHJ
It will become a numbers game among the “top 20 bluebloods programs” to decide how much effort they put into recruiting high school kids vs buying a portal guy like Easton after he is productive at a rival school.
Not sure of percentage but I’d guess many programs are reducing high school scholarship offers and holding back more roster spots for transfers, although it may become the norm to require an NIL player to forego his scholarship but that wouldn’t affect roster numbers.
85 on roster and 25 more as “walking/NIL” will be how the USCs get around the 85 scholarship rule and stack the roster again.
Each class contains about 25 recruits but what if USC begins holding 15 spots for transfers each year? Over time these schools all lose contact with the high school network and simply go the east way of luring through NIL more talent. I don’t see it being sustainable for those programs to continually buy new players every year to hold depth on the roster but some will attempt it out of sheer hubris.
The opportunity for OSU and Bray is at hand. Aside from the uncertainty of schedule or conference, it seems that a lot of high school kids are getting squeezed by the NIL feeding frenzy and will be overlooked or have fewer opportunities to sign out of high school. Of course the 5* guys will command attention but the low 4* to the 2* guys will be squeezed out if 50 programs are reducing the number of high school kids they sign by 8-10 each year. That is a random guess but easily 500 top athletes essential drop a slot from top 25 programs into the 40-60 programs range which is where everyone considers OSU. A great recruiting staff that knows the situation and prepares to recruit the kids like that could find success and once the kids are on campus, another Damien Martinez or 2 who will simply invest in OSU and stay rather than jump out.
All is not lost and the NIL landscape is a detrimental change in the sport but it will present some new types of opportunities if Bray and staff are able to see them and capitalize.
100% happening, my son’s HS coach talked about it this spring at the parent meeting. He is heard from ACC/SEC programs that they are taking as few as 10 HS seniors.
Interesting summation. I never have thought it the recruiting process like you described above, but makes total sense.
“I don’t see it being sustainable for those programs to continually buy new players every year.” NIL is exciting for all the millionaire donors but they might wear out in a year or so, especially if their payments don’t return well.
I don’t think you realize how much play money some of these donors have. It’s pocket change for them. Small schools may start seeing the decrease in NIL but large NIL schools will always throw money at players.
It will be interesting to see how effective KHJ really is as a recruiter. Many of his stops have been pretty “easy” recruiting grounds…UW, UO, USC. UNLV and the Beavs are his lowest profile schools and he only spent 2022 at UNLV right? Definitely think he’s a great choice for us but I see a lot of peeps thinking he’s the answer to our recruiting needs.
Has it been confirmed that he’s the hire? Bray’s comments that he knew the guy from coaching clinics led me to believe it’s someone else.
I’m still wondering if it is Breckterfield although his name hasn’t been mentioned much.
Likely someone in a big bowl game as a key assistant (Breckterfield, Jay Harbaugh) or an NFL guy like KHJ or an FCS guy like the NDSU guy who just went to USC…
I noticed KHJ has started following a handful of our current recruits. Don’t think he’d have any other reason to follow recruits/transfers unless he is coming
But it’s only a handful, and I have no way of knowing when he followed the guys
Unlikely that he followed them as an analyst for the Raiders…
College football has turned into pro soccer where you largely have the buying clubs and the developing clubs. Every now and then a developing club will have a good run, but it’s largely the buyers that win championships every year.
From a results standpoint, I don’t think this will end much differently than it has for the sport the last few decades. It just changes the way players move around.
It definitely gets the elite players into the top-tier teams much faster. But I also think it gives lower-tier teams more opportunity to recruit higher potential talent out of HS, since the upper-tier teams are more focused on the proven transfers.
MBB with another home thriller brewing! Down 6 to UTSA at the half. If nothing else, this team has proven it can battle back from deficits at home.
Slow starts are getting old, but I think it’s the best this team can do sometimes. It’s like the Beavs under Riley with mobile QBs, Tinkle’s team never fails to give up first-half threes to some no-name who is shooting 20% or less for the season. We shall see if another comeback is in the cards. The P-12 is having a bad weekend overall.
Good reminder that MWC basketball is even better than P12
Yeah, I don’t think the MWC is going to be any easier for Tinkle. It’s been a strong league lately.
I’m ready for the apologists in here to say, well UTSA had a really good season that one time so it’s good to see the Beavs hang with a quality opponent.
Ha Ha!
The Tennessee Pretend Oilers lose to Houston and are eliminated from the playoffs.
Ha Ha!
The HS RB we offered the other day committed. Seems like a high IQ kid…had offers to a lot of the Ivy schools.
Tall kid with good speed. Cutting ability and tackle breaking don’t show up much on film. Looks like a change of pace or convert to WR kinda guy
He played in one of the best leagues in CA and was considered a top RB in CA, so he has at least been tested.
Are you looking at the same tape as me?
Cutting ability and tackle breaking don’t what?
Dude makes everyone look like late-stage Mark Banker defenses.
This guy?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/the-times-football-back-of-the-year-cornell-hatcher-jr-of-corona-centennial/ar-AA1lD3MJ
He sounds nothing like my type of player.
I am not extremely happy.
Beat out Portland State, Montana and a slew of Ivy schools. Not sure about him being one of the best RBs in CA. Seems like he’d have more offers from P4 or even G5 schools being a top RB in the state but yet OSU is the “best” offer he has by far. Good size though. 6ft 205 lbs.
Yes.
Don’t trust your eyes, his production at the highest level of football in California, or all the accolades he received from everyone else who watched him all year and did trust those things.
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/15902299/650a21bd578ee30abc6d3a82
Just trust what other schools do, regarding his recruitment.
That’s what really counts.
Lol. He might be good but 0 P4 offers? When has a top RB in CA never received a P4 offer? Only G5 offers were Air Force and UNLV. You’re telling me that Portland state, AF, UNLV and the Beavs are the only non-ivy league schools to have seen his film or thought it worthwhile to offer? 1 article says his speed is a concern but he did have 1 td of 80+ yds this season so maybe he’s gotten faster.
Terron Ward–former Atlanta Falcon… whose team found out they only won consistently when he was active.
And I don’t need to tell you anything, because I don’t give two squirts about what other schools do.
That kid is a baller.
Sounds like a real War Daddy
Just saying. Jim Leonhard is still out there for DC! Runs the same style defense as Bray.
Crazy stuff. Beavs do it again 66-65. Some UTSA numbnut fouled Jordan Pope who was dribbling about 25 feet from the basket. Pople is a 95% foul shooter and sank the 1 and 1.
As much as we dunk on WT, there have been worse losses by top 25 teams than anything the Beavs have suffered so far.
Great come from behind win for sure. This team is going to get slaughtered in conference play.
Our current conference?
Yeah… by a couple teams. It’s really not as good as you think it is, but we still won’t see the top half of the standings, despite having some talent to work with.
Highlights of the new RB commit Cornell Hatcher.
https://www.hudl.com/profile/15902299/Cornell-Hatcher
This is an interesting commit. His film shows that he should be getting more offers that G5.
He’s a very shifty runner. Gets to his top speed very quickly and keeps his feet moving. His high school film looks awfully like Jermar Jefferson’s. One thing that was really nice was the end of the film. Several plays of him blocking downfield.
Drawbacks – top end speed isn’t the best. And you have to wonder if there is another reason why he wasn’t recruited more. Guys in the LA area don’t get missed if they have talent. It’s not grades.
This is one of those commits that have a lot of upside. If he can add some speed, he could be an elite back.
My fave play is the second to last on the film I posted above.
Watch what he does after the play. Smart football, on top of everything else.
He has a sprinter’s burst at about 60-70 yards, but I don’t see any stats other than he ran one 12.01 100m as a frosh.
He’s a little quicker than that now.
He self-reported a 4.47 on Hudl, for whatever that’s worth
He looks pretty good to me. Lots of yards after contact and runs angry. Top speed ain’t bad, he was dusting a bunch of DB’s
He’s not Jonathan Taylor, but he’s fast enough to run past just about everyone and strong enough to carry 4-5 guys down the field.
This guy was a steal, and I’m pretty sure it’s because he was playing on two sprained ankles last year and the big schools are all looking elsewhere (remember Lincoln Riley bashing CA HS kids?)
He looks like a much more impressive back than our two previous commits in imho.
The school he plays for in CA is strong in football too.
The other teams don’t have to be great, we’re bad. The only P4 teams we’ve played we got absolutely wrecked. We’re 339th in pts scored. 261st in ppg (which includes 3(?) OT games.). 262nd in fg %. 346th in 3pt %. Pretty solid at the free throw line at 41st. This is against pre-season opponents. MW schedule next year might be much worse as they’ve been competitive so far this season. Winning in OT or last second plays at home vs what should be an inferior opponent seems to give people some false impressions on how this will translate vs other P4 schools.
Curious how this Murphy QB battle will finish. Originally was visiting Baylor, Duke and OSU. Canceled his Baylor visit and went to.South Carolina instead. However, it’s being rumored that South Carolina is getting a diff xfer portal guy from Vandy. Supposedly Murphy is in Corvallis today which seems like it might be a 2 school battle? can the Beavs come out on top? Haven’t heard anything further on the Mizzou QB so perhaps that hinges on what Murphy does? Also saw someone post on X that the Idaho qb was in town?
The Vandy QB that just committed to Prime Time Academy?
Dam, that was posted earlier today before the commitment. Funny he went to go backup Shadeur instead.
Shedeur should transfer for how bad his head coach put his life in peril.
Wait, I think it was a different guy. How did Vandy lose two backup QB’s to power programs?
People are probably asking how Oregon State lost 2 QBs to power programs. It happens.
Why? We were a good team. Vandy wasn’t.
Was that a Vanderbilt qb not a vandal?
Jack, I noticed James Dockery seems to be recruiting that Coachella kid you mentioned. I’m sure OSU will hear about him if he’s any good.
We shouldn’t forget the better off teams in HS have been poaching talent forever.
And football isn’t the only sport.
And nobody should think twice about it, if it puts the kid in a place where he could earn a scholarship on any level.
Should have said s/he.
It’s in these schools’ interests to have a broad spectrum of potential future donors.
I think he coaches at a JC
Xavier Prep, last I saw.
https://www.desertsun.com/story/sports/high-school/football/2023/11/17/xavier-preps-playoff-runs-ends-in-semifinals-with-loss-to-west-covina-football/71592685007/
Double commit incoming!
One must be the OLineman who visited today. He basically said to stay tuned earlier
You are correct
Just once I want to hear one of these kids tweet out; “After much cash and compensation I have decided to change my commitment to the highest bidder. Please respect my deci$ion. ?”
And rather than these stupid tweets that say “Committed!”, they should say “Committed but open to better offers!”
Beavs finally offer a HS QB: Wilsonville’s Kallen Gutredge. State champ and almost set a few state passing records. Actually looks more like a RPO QB. Big kid who runs well and breaks tackles. Also a high-level basketball player who plays point guard.
I think we’re his first offer, but he looks pretty good on film and he was really productive in HS. Looks like a good guy to try and develop and it’s good to see the staff working on building the QB room back up.
Looks like Nike was recruiting him but hadn’t offered
They’ll offer now…
Definitely a guy who needs a few years to develop. Arm strength isn’t there yet. He’ll need to bulk up from his listed 190 to around 205 to 210.
If we were counting on him to start right away, we’d be screwed
High school OT commits! Adam hawke out of Utah.
1st commit is Adam Hawkes. OL.
Looks like we had been recruiting him for a while. uSU, WMU and Montana offers.
Definitely had been sending him some comms during the season but the offer was very recent.
MHver3 post on X. Don’t care whether there’s any truth or if it’s just some dude shit posting…interesting concept.
“Hearing that TKO and an unnamed private equity have interest in helping to finance a possible B12/ACC/Pac merger. Hearing this could be a financial boon to all parties involved. The goal here is to keep the entirety of the potential merger candidates intact.”
Who is TKO?
Vince McMahon
Vandy picks up Utah’a Nate Johnson at QB
5 star freshman qb for usc enters the portal.
Respect his decision
USC frosh qb, Malachi Nelson expected to hit xfer portal. Was a 5* recruit. Wonder of that means USC bringing in someone else?
USC outbidding Oregon for Gabriel would be epic
Will Howard from K State
Probably going to take all the guys OSU was targeting
Lol one article listed us as a potential landing spot alongside Georgia, Ohio state and Michigan
Nelson can’t be our future QB of the day.
Maalik Murphy isn’t done yet.
Seems like plenty of unproven 4* & 5* qbs that are getting kicked to the curb as their programs go for broke in NIL qb free agency.
Dude didn’t even have a chance. Was a freshman this season. I’m genuinely curious if we start to see these higher recruits opt out of the top 20-30 teams. It’s becoming clear the “top” schools can’t risk it on a young qb.
2nd evening commitment is Will Haverland, Edge rusher from Sheldon HS.
Beavs are picking up alot of guys with few or no other offers.
Or Colorado castoffs. Hope this stretegy works out…
https://twitter.com/WillHaverlandd/status/1736588842717925537?t=kR7VHeDrbpFJB5i8tlBMLQ&s=19
I think guys that came on strong as seniors are going to go overlooked more and more in the portal area.
Recruiters only have so much time in the day.
Plus with an all new staff basically, we’re starting way behind everyone else on HS guys that have been recruited for two years
Anybody have any highlights? I can’t find any.
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/18384846/6527088c478cf713dcb4f9f7
Looks like he could play on either side and he’s a long snapper. They could maybe save a scholarship. lol
Good size!
Good size and motor. Just looks like a good developmental front seven guy. Train em up.
Looks like OLB Anthony Jones just committed? Xfer from Indiana. Has a somewhat storied past it appears. Think in 2021 he committed to UW, then Texas, then eventually with the Ducks. Xferred to Indiana and now xferring to OSU.
The guy is a beast in his high school highlights. Good speed and agility for his size.
Nice to get a guy that has attracted several teams at least.
Commitment issues though?
Hopefully not. Looks like an impact player!
My question would be…why didn’t he get consistent playing time at Indiana? Injuries? They were pretty shitty.
“Jones who entered the transfer portal on December 8 cited “mental health and other personal reasons” for leaving Indiana…Jones played in all 12 games for the Hoosiers’ recording 12 tackles and 0.5 tackle for loss.
https://oregonstate.rivals.com/news/indiana-transfer-anthony-jones-commits-to-oregon-state
Must’ve been a redshirt season in 2022 with the Ducks. Only played 2 games with them so relatively young. Article said 3 years left still.
Indiana Jones?
Maalik Murphy has arrived at PDX for his visit. We gave a stalker media member with proof.
https://twitter.com/trevordenton37/status/1736601597965435262?t=sZ8HZXHW6ltW4T9MR74JDA&s=19
Bray might be pulling an all-nighter. Holy shit.
Tomorrow’s a dead period, correct? Is the recruiting calendar different for portal transfers?
Portal rules??!!! What’re you high?! Lol. I kid. I don’t know if there is a dead period for xfers. Dudes are still jumping in today so seems like it’s more open for them than the HS players.
I guess Malik Murphy just landed at pdx and bray is there to pick him up. Keep the momentum going!
https://www.kerryeggers.com/stories/on-the-pac-2s-court-situation-damien-martinez-beaver-and-irish-defections-brays-staff-my-heisman-ballot-nba-in-season-tourney-and-more?fbclid=IwAR0DXfRuRaxwD5HO34cgzgIpWbcND1bcTZVrY-Nz_Xl0JI4VYwueypb8VuE
“That would leave two spots on his coaching staff. One of the hires will work with running backs. The other will either coach safeties or handle special teams, depending on how Bray wants to break down coaching responsibilities.”
We already figure Ford is in.
Jay Harbaugh was a ST coach who coached several all-americans/award winners, and is now coaching safeties.
Just saying….
AJ Steward could be in play for RB coach. He retweeted a couple OSU related posts on his twitter recently
I’ll take him.
Not sure why he was a patsy at Baylor, but that’s Whacko for you.
I noticed Ford “liked” one of our commitments today too.
I really liked Stewart and I bet Martinez would like him back too.
Stewart at RB and Ford at ST is a possible scenario. Just seems way too quiet on the Harbaugh front, although he’s understandably busy
While Ford is RB here, it seems like at past stops he recruited students at a variety of positions.
As mentioned elsewhere, seems to have regional strength in WA & AZ.
Similar to some of the other recent staff announcements, being actively engaged in recruiting appears to be a trait or focus.
Sounds like Bray is at PDX to give Malik
Murphy an Uber ride to Corvegas. Has anyone seen this yet? I’d like some kind of real proof before I believe it…anyone have a social media account they can point everyone to?
Scroll up six posts.
But did you hear that Bray is at PDX and Malik Murphy has landed? It was a touch of the sarcasm my friend….
Does he run meetings?
Does he have an adopted brother?
Is Maalik Murphy any good?
I’ve started watching some highlights. He’s physically imposing, but I dont see quick reads or accurate throws.
He seems to lock onto 1 guy and throws into coverage.
Completion % was around 50% last year in limited action and QBR was in the 40’s.
I get that we’re all star struck, but he doesn’t pass the eyeball test to me. Would rather have BG.
Somebody tell me I’m crazy
He looked like a good passer to me. Definitely has a strong arm.
Since he’s actually visiting, I looked at his film and highlights.
He’s a younger DJU. A big body and a big arm. He is a pure pocket passer. Not a running threat at all. So his fit is in a pro style offense with little running. Texas runs a base RPO style offense.
He’s got a very high ceiling. But his success will depend on the offensive system and coaches being able to coach him up. The offense would have to be built around him.
That’s what I see. An inexperienced DJU.
Although I did see some running ability in his high school film. He’s bigger than most defenders, so he’s tough to take down. A little faster than DJ and makes more decisive changes in direction. But also didnt run much in HS.
I worry about our OLine for any new QB coming in. Ot was easy to sell OSU to DJ last year because the returning line was one of the top preseason groups in college football.
Next year is going to be a pretty new look with new coaching and only a few returning players with experience.
Pass on him.
Being able to read a defense is much more important than arm strength.
As a RS freshman with only a few starts under his belt, he will undoubtedly still need to develop. Apparently he’s a big personality that everyone loves in the locker room and considered to have high leadership potential.
Fair enough. He may be an asset to the team if we use him in specific situations.
I don’t think he’ll beat out BG for the starting job.
No guarantee BG comes back next year.
I watched a bunch of the Idaho QB’s highlights. He is what he is. A good FCS QB. Undersized at either a listed 170 pounds or 185 and doesn’t look like he’ll fill out anymore. Listed at 6’2 or 6’0 depending on the site. Can throw darts under 20 yards. Anything over that is a rainbow. I’d say he’s at his ceiling now as a QB.
He’s the kind of player I would think would switch positions moving out of FCS. He looks like he’d be a good DB or a WR.
So he is Fifita from UA?
Yup. If he’s the only portal QB we end up with, we’ve truly entered a new, depressing chapter of Beaver football.
Just got a JUCO RB as a preferred walk-on. Anthony Jones retweeted the announcement and said something to the effect, let’s go do this brother. RB is from Vegas as well so seems like we traded the Arnold bros for the Vegas bros. Wonder if Jones signing was a package deal too? What a wild day
Murphy was a HS teammate of current OL Nathan Elu. So there is some connection there.
I’m also laughing at the fact that some people don’t want a young QB that had offers from every single top program in the country and has already started two P5 games.
Agree totally. He started a highly pressurized game while Ewers was injured and won the game to keep their season alive for the CFP. He has been in the qb room with 2 5* recruits and Sark for almost 2 years and has been practicing against the Texas defensive front for all of that time.
He already has better game experience than Chiles, Ty Thompson or Malachi Nelson did. Better stat line than Dante Moore. Since Green is off the board, Murphy is a great get if he chooses OSU. Perhaps the bigger concern about all of these qbs would be how does BG react. So far, BG has been silent and a reliable teammate. As long as the NIL money is held for guys who prove themselves within the program and not buying players to come into the program, it is a good sign. If the philosophy has changed on that and Beavs are now trying to go buy a qb, we will be in trouble soon enough.
I’d try to land the Idaho kid as depth and insurance, and try to get Murphy as 1A, BG as 1B, McCoy 2A… and roll the dice with a new offense for all of them.
Agree, BG could torpedo the Beavs if he decides to jump into the portal, too
BG likely has better options than the portal, if he’s done playing.
It’s not that I don’t want a player that other teams used to covet out of highschool. But now we have some sample data (limited) to look at and his stats are really not impressive. Yes, he looks the part physically and has the “stars” next to his name, but he’s not a guy that will instantly come in and make the program better on day 1. It will take time to develop.
I’m also wondering why all of those teams who really wanted him out of highschool don’t appear to want him anymore? Oregon State and Duke and that’s it?
We do need more QB depth, and he’s be an intriguing guy for that reason, but I don’t think he looks like an upgrade over BG at this time.
I guess it depends on what our goals for transfer QBs are? Immediate starter? Or starter in training?
The QB landscape has shifted and he says he wants to go somewhere he can play right away. That was the sale at UT when he came in to compete with Ewers, who had nothing but garbage time experience at tOSU.
The sample size is still extremely limited and it was his first ever college game time (without the benefit of getting broken in against inferior competition). His PFF ratings for his two starts were pretty decent, all things considered.
TT would still be my top pick out of the guys rumored to come to Corvallis, but I’m not going to act like MM wouldn’t be a win.
Fair enough, I just don’t see him playing right away if BG is here
It’s all about fit these days.The big question is, which QB fits Gundy’s offense the best? Not sure.
Well Gundy recruited him out of high school so he must have a pretty good idea of his skill sets and what kind of qb he wants for his offense.
More from MHver3:
TKO taking equity in BIG12/ACC/PAC would benefit the conferences with: increased revenues, NIL opportunities, co-branding with UFC/WWE, advertisement opportunities and increased worldwide exposure.
There would be a contractual commitment for all member schools more binding than any GOR. It would give TKO a pipeline for talent for WWE/UFC. It diversifies TKOs reach into the sporting world and entertainment industry.
All contractual obligations to the networks would still be fulfilled. If PAC is brought in those 2 would be added into the BIG12 ESPN contract and that conference would be a subsidiary of sorts to the BIG12 where the BIG12 would fill out with 6 schools to get them to 8 for now (AZ,ASU,BYU,UTAH,UH,CU)
At first read this all sounds absolutely crazy but after thinking about it for a bit this makes a lot of sense. If the BIG12/ACC/PAC ever want to catch up (or surpass) the SEC&BIG10 this is the kind of outside the box deal it would take to get there. The networks have already decided who the winners a loser are so the BIG12/ACC/PAC hitching their wagon to the networks will just cause these conferences to fall further and further behind.
I mean, if jumping in bed with someone as fast and loose with money as this is the only option, wtf was wrong with the apple deal, again?
Good ole Fox colluding with the biggest ‘brands’ of the Pac to keep market share on a business model with finite time. Wish Osu would’ve left Oregon behind in 1959 and 1964.
I’m guessing TKOs objective would be to help build the brands and increase TV ratings. Then during the next TV negotiations the value will be higher and Apple/Google will get in on a bidding war.
Why would we go with them, though?
As long as they tolerate the financial risk that is McMahon, they tolerate way too much risk.
We might as well ask the Traitorous 10 to come make some “common sense” decisions for the future of the Pac… and then follow that advice.
One of the conference commissioners has a twin brother who is associated with a PE subsidiary who does this kind of work, already. And it doesn’t involve people with questionable accounting methods.
Uh McMahon? It’s the Saudis money just so you know. McMahon is a figure head with a pretty good media mind. It’s not the worst idea I’ve heard as long as it’s guaranteed money and a place for all sports to be viewed.
even better
Scuzz-backed scuzz.
I think no matter what media/money injector we go with it will be all the same. Lots of scuzz all around.
If it’s a legit plan, Wes Edens might be able to consult… or even invest.
There are many legit venture firms.
Accepting known risk is not sound, when a world of alternatives exist.
Freedom from networks is the issue and the concern depending on your viewpoint of old school cable tv paradigm.
Apple deal allows for monetizing that rewards individual schools with greater following but wouldn’t t hinder or bind the lesser schools from getting creative outside of the streaming agreement.
Apple needs to be part of any new deal for PACX but that ship likely has sailed and the angst over cable losing cable viewers takes over.
I’m guessing Apple /Google would be part of the B12/ACC/PAC/TKO during next media negotiation
Apple doesn’t need to do business with shadesters just because of money.
They have enough money of their own, and they’re pretty averse to shared equity on returns.
Apple deal hinges on Stanford and what they want to do
Apple is going to wait for the SEC. The ROI on that deal would be massive.
https://x.com/oregonstatepres/status/1736809758139588735
Did Saul Goodman and his film student friends direct this?
Looks like the vehicle in that video has a custom a Oregon State license plate similar the specialty plate the DMV made available for UO. Are those truly available? I have seem them on the DMV website?
Anybody know?
Thomas Ford (Vandal coach) has posted his decommitment tweet.
https://twitter.com/CoachTFord/status/1736819092634710053
Huffman confirms he’ll be the RB coach at OSU
https://twitter.com/BrandonHuffman/status/1736820275306705160
so….Harbaugh still on the table??
All I need is a 7 or 11.
Only if he brings Connor Stallions with him
Are we in the running for Ford?
Done deal
I really liked watching his RB’s for Idaho. This is a good pick up. Maybe he can bring Anthony Woods with him.
Linfield background doesn’t hurt at all.
So I’m now being told that Ty thompson is back to being a possibility.
That and one of our current WR is apparently headed to Tulane.
I dont know who
Valsin? He’s from Texas so I feel like that makes the most sense
Tastean Reddicks has been hurt all season.
What’s his story?
That’s my guess. Reddicks to Tulane.
That would suck. He has a lot of potential.
That must mean Murphy is out? Have you heard anything about Gabarri Johnson? It seemed like he was a lock a couple of days ago, but haven’t heard anything since.
Our new strategy for qbs: must be 6’ 4” or taller, no game experience, from California or Texas, previously hyped high school 4* or 5*, spent at least the last year as a 2nd or 3rd string backup at a top 25 program…look athletic but play like a statue
And hopefully not afraid of “contact”.
Come enjoy the Bernie Kosar Experience.
So you would be unhappy having Aiden Chiles, Arch Manning, Malachi Nelson, etc.
I wouldn’t be unhappy, I’m just noting the shift to why we may be able to get in these uncertain times. Most of those types are on the move and available right now.
If Syracuse can get McCord, anything is possible…
We’ve got the Bray Signal
Transfer DL from Houston
Amipeleasi Langi. 6’6 310 DT. He’ll be a RS sophomore. Played in 4 games this past season with a PFF grade of 69 against decent competition.
Good addition!
Wow, he’s a big boy.
Houston D Line Transfer:
https://twitter.com/awwsii_/status/1736844313060110442
DL xfer from Houston. Originally from Puyallup so coming back to the NW. R-SO so a couple years left. Amipeleasi Fafita
My bad. Looks like he goes by Langi now.
Lost of linemen (O&D) and defensive players so far. Seems like we’re pretty light on the offensive skill guys from the portal. Hoping Gundy and his team will come through soon…
*Lots
I like it. We’re going to smash the ball up the middle versus these Mountain West teams and score 42 a game.
Coaching staff is getting a lot of guys with pretty high ceilings who had some awful coaching. This has led to a lot of them flying under the radar in the portal. Probably the least impressive guy ended up at Tennessee. Get a QB and some help in the secondary and WR and I think fans can be pretty excited about the 2024 team has long as they don’t lose many more impactful guys in the portal moving forward. Bray and his staff have really done a good job at recovering from some of the losses to transfer
Losing the safety transfer sucked. Need to get that handled.
But corners/nickel should be really good. Especially if Robinson does in fact return. Robinson one side, noble Thomas at nickel, and Ivy and piper on other side is very good. Plus Alton back as one safety. Also Skyler Thomas back healthy will be either safety or nickel if noble slides to outside
Curious who are the starting linebackers no that Hart and Masceranas are gone?
Jordan seems like he can fill in admirably. The other spot would be up for grabs.
Assume Melvin Jordan, Chisom and John Miller are rotating for inside backer. Saez, MMD, Niko Taylor and the xfer from Wyoming last year are probably the ones fighting for OLB.
And Anthony Jones now at OLB
Linebacker won’t see much fall off, maybe slightly inside, but minimal.
Only concerns right now are oline (tackles only), obviously qb, and be good to add a wr to the mix opposite Bolden
Martinez doubtful for the bowl game
Injury?
“Martinez has missed the last few practices here in Corvallis and his potential absence from the upcoming bowl game would be due to not being physically ready according to Hynson.”
Sounds like a decision near the day of the game…….or to motivate him I guess
I’d rather he sat out. Get reps for Newell, give Fenwick a farewell and make sure DM doesn’t suffer a serious injury.
This.
From: https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2023/12/oregon-state-running-back-damien-martinez-unlikely-to-play-in-sun-bowl-due-to-lack-of-practice.html
However, the sophomore running back hasn’t practice and played since the Beavers wrapped up their regular season Nov. 24 against Oregon. Martinez is currently in his hometown of Lewisville, Texas and not practicing with the Beavers.
Hynson, speaking after the Beavers’ practice Monday, didn’t know if Martinez would rejoin the Beavers this week in Corvallis or when the team arrives in El Paso, Texas for bowl week on Christmas Day.
“I would tell you as I stand here today, he won’t play,” Hynson said. “But that’s based on how I feel based on me, what you’ve got to do to get ready for a football game. It would be a quick turnaround, and personally, I don’t think it’s worth it.”
Martinez’s availability has to do with his football playing shape, Hynson said.
“When you sit out like that, you’ve got to be ready to play this game, especially at running back. Like you’re going to take 20 to 25 hits,” Hynson said. “You’ve got to be shape to do that. It’s got to make sense for him to do that.”
Hynson said this is about protecting Martinez’s long-term future, not a punishment for the traffic offense.
Smart.
Velling officially following Judas (as expected).
I’m not worried about him.
Good receiver, but we just got a commitment from a DE who blocks better than him from the split end.
What’s the word on Overman? I thought someone said he wanted back in, now that the coaching has changed.
Overman still wants back in. Last I heard Boyer had not reached out to Jake. He has visited Pitt and hears from a few other schools.
Velling to MSU. Hadn’t even heard he was visiting but makes sense he’d go that route.
Did Jordan Anderson (the 4* star wr) ever visit?
FSPtoOSU could really pay off for Bray with Ford’s hiring
https://twitter.com/TFordFSP/status/1736860442100900084?t=A9fdP21KWvNWiA9jyCc4Yg&s=19
What’s fps?
Fsp>
Ford Sports Performance. Training place run by Thomas Ford’s brother.
Thanks.
They have a ton of D1 athletes in the NW region. If Tracy Ford is going to be steering kids from his group towards OSU, it can’t hurt. Think of it like back in the day when the whole TMP To Corvallis trend was happening after we signed Isaiah Hodgins. Except a little bigger
I really hope this comes to fruition. FSP has been a staple and leader in Football training in WA and the NW for a hot minute. That’s where Treshaun H came out of and who he prepped with before last years draft.
I worry we won’t have a shot at the top guys out of FSP, but OSU is a better opportunity than Idaho. Hopefully there are more former FSP alums looking to come back west. Could see some quality guys transfer in that way.
If we have FSP (thru Ford), Sitake, Bray and Keith H, not sure the last time we had that much recruiting skill/resource in Corvallis.
I am curious to see Keith’s impact, will OSU be his best performance yet? Or will he be focused on the next opportunity already? Any thoughts Nice?
Did Jordan Anderson (the 4* star wr) ever visit?
supposedly he did. He’s another guy that Jake Namisnak followed recently, after Ty Thomas. Gabarri Jonson got a follow too.
We want all the QBS
We’ll take all the help we can get.
TT and Johnson would be the dream scenario. TT for a year or two, then Johnson takes over after a little experience.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39112798/oregon-state-washington-state-unprecedented-recruiting-challenges-2023
The big thing that hurt us was the coaching change. I don’t think we would have lost many current players or recruits.
Agreed, Beavs would have had a legitimate shot at the CFP next year if nothing had changed. Recruits like playing big games I’m assuming.
We very well still could depending on the players brought in the guys that have been on the team for awhile. If they can get a good qb there’s no reason to think it’s not possible.
Said this in the last thread I believe; 11-1 is a realistic goal. The only for sure loss is the Ducks. Outside of that we have a clear path to big an at large team. The only obstacle is another lower tier team going undefeated a la Liberty this year.
I don’t think 11-1 is a realistic goal next year. We’ll be starting close to 16 or 17 new people next season. 2 or 3 of those will be new OL and we will be very young across the board. We get a good test with several of these Mtn West schools in a normal year much less the one We’ll be facing next season.
D mart with a vague tweet but signed off with the beaver/lock emoji thingy. Guess that means he’s solid with us still?
The video of Hynson giving the full explanation was pretty clear that this is about player safetly and nothing else.
Martinez hasn’t practice since the Bray hiring because he had the legal trouble that night and didn’t think he’d be playing.
So he’s down in Texas on Xmas break already and they didn’t want to risk playing him out of shape in an unnecessary game since he’s going into what will likely be his final year of college ball.
DM’s tweet makes it pretty clear this is a long-term focused decision to not play in a meaningless game.
Speaking of Hynson’s video, does anyone not agree that this is one quality dude?
Well spoken, positive, and thoughtful. If, at some point, Bray needs a mouthpiece to deal with the media I think he’s the guy.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2uRaa7X0yUTq_at7QF2Txg/videos
It makes sense to me when you look at the realty of their bowl prep. They’ve already put in two weeks of prep while he was suspended and had gone home to TX. Then he gets reinstated but they only have three days of practice before breaking for Christmas and then coming back for a couple more in El Paso for the bowl. Just wish they would have gotten on the same page with messaging so there didn’t have to be any drama around it.
“Damien is reinstated due to the DA choosing to not file charges but he won’t play in the bowl because he hasn’t been able to practice.”
Wow Dante Moore commits to Oregon. SMH
Might need another thread soon. Too much news happening. lol
Oregon cuts another check for a backup QB. Deep
Pockets. ~1.2M
Nice has put up a new thread