05.Dec.2009 Oregon State @…TCU?

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This story from the Gazettetimes has some legs it appears.

De Carolis confirmed that OSU has had some discussion with Texas Christian about opening the 2010 season with an ESPN game at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas, midway between Dallas and Fort Worth. It would replace the Sept. 4 game with Eastern Washington at Reser Stadium.

“ESPN has approached us about trying to do a game like that,” De Carolis said. “But right now we’d have to find somebody to take Eastern Washington,” and give the Eagles a payday game similar to the one they’d give up against the Beavers.

“That’s been the struggle.”

Substituting TCU, the Mountain West Conference champion and probable BCS-bowl entrant, for FCS Eastern Washington would give OSU one of the toughest nonconference schedules in the country. It’s also slated to host Louisville of the Big East on Sept. 18, and visit Western Athletic Conference champion Boise State – another probable 2009 BCS team – on Sept. 25.

If Lyle is granted a 6th year (and this is possible, as a LB in this Pitt game was granted a 6th year under almost identical circumstances) then I’m all for scheduling TCU. But with Katz taking over, a cupcake like EWU is important for early game experience and confidence. Tough call–do you go all in and take on a tough schedule in hopes of earning respect and having a magical season, or do you take the win and increase your bowl chances? With the personnel the Beavers have returning, I’d say the latter makes more sense.

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  • Diggs says:
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    Wow. I’m leaning towards the latter as well, because more than likely Katz will be our man. If he is, i’d be very nervous starting out like that (even though I have hopes for him to grow), because don’t we also have Boise St? It would take both Riley getting us out of that early season lul, as well as Katz having a heck of a transition into the role. I’ve still been wondering about Lyle too. When would we find out something? I was reading an article that was touching on it somewhere not too long ago mentioning if Lyle were to return to lead, we’d be pre-season ranked something like near the top ten. Given, that’s just pre-season but that’s still something that was a surprise to read.

    Sure is interesting to read this though, and it’s pretty cool that that’s even a possibility, but it does make me nervous. Especially starting out the season.

    • beavers4life says:
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      Riley was on 1080 the fan yesterday afternoon with Isaac and Suke on Primetime and he said they are gathering up Lyle’s documents and such to turn in and try to prepare answer questions within those documents the NCAA might have and if all goes well or not, we should know around Christmas is what he said. That would be a heck of a Christmas present for Lyle!

      On another note, I think Katz has gotten some experience in garbage time this season and he looks like he could take over the team for next year. If Riley has faith in taking on TCU in Texas, and he’s one to think of the worst, then that’s a lot of confidence in Katz for next year. I like the looks we’ve seen from Katz. He has a strong arm, a good understanding of when to tuck and run and not fall down, as well as knowing the routes his receivers are running. I am confident in our offense for next year, but scared about our defense.

      • angrybeaver says:
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        I concur.

        Defensive depth is an issue. We better start grooming DTs because Paea has one year at most.

        Offensive depth is much better except RB. We really need a viable backup.

        As far as Riley having confidence…I think this is a Bob D money issue. Instead of paying EW we’d probably get a good payday from TCU to go down there.

        • beavers4life says:
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          I wonder if Gio Bernard will decide to sign with a different school because Weis is gone now? I hope he re-thinks his school choice and notices the beavs could use a true power back and he would be a perfect backup, but that’s a hard thing for a young guy to be for 1-2 years. If Bernard is the backup as a true freshman we get him for 2 years as a starter after Quizz or 3 years after Quizz if we redshirt him. So the best thing to do is find a JUCO running back somewhere that would work in our system. I think a Juco would love to be at a D-1 school. Your thoughts?

          • angrybeaver says:
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            My thought is that the Beavers have bad luck with Jucos. Kuli, Dunn, Terry, Ruben Jackson, Francies, Mcneil, etc. The last Juco back we took was Jeremy Francis…he was Okay at best and left the team. Again, not much luck. The only JUCO we’re recruiting right now is a CB, Wheaton’s cousin.

            Bernard was recently quoted as saying he chose the school, not the coach. He’s a 99.9% commit to ND. I’d forget about that one. Based on his HS performance he’s injury prone anyway.

            Really need McCants to develop. That guy has no confidence and bad vision (runs right into the line most of the time)–both fixable problems but he’ll be a junior next year and time is running out.

            Stevenson is okay but I just don’t think he’s a starter. Just doesn’t have enough speed, power, or shift.

    • angrybeaver says:
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      I think that one pass in the Arizona game will keep Lyle from getting the 6th year. I’m not sure when that will be official–you see how slow the NCAA works (e.g. Roberto Nelson still waiting for clearance).

      Whether or not we’re ranked next year, more than anything, depends on how we finish this year. Need to beat BYU in the Vegas Bowl and finish ranked.

      I’m a huge Katz guy. He’s going to be great. He’s not only possesses the physical tools, but you can tell by the way he’s tackled coursework that he’s (a) intelligent and (b) a motivated man with a plan. Love seeing such refinement and maturity in a young player. Truly believe he’ll play beyond his years…a lot like Nick Foles has this season.

  • OSBeavs says:
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    Angry I am not sure that we would be ranked in the preseason if we finish ranked. Look at the last three years, we still haven’t gotten any preseason love.

    On another note, I love the recruiting opportunity of playing TCU. Big time game in Texas with a bye after. Coaches can stay behind to recruit some during that bye. I would love to see more recruiting in Texas. Finally, it would be nice for the Rodgers bros to go home and play. Texas high school kids could also recognize that we support our stars.

    • angrybeaver says:
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      “Angry I am not sure that we would be ranked in the preseason if we finish ranked.”

      I think we would with the good showing vs Oregon and a bowl win vs a ranked BYU. We weren’t ranked this year because the team was so young. Not many players will be lost this season, so I’d think a 20-25 ranking is likely with the aforementioned bowl victory.

      Agreed on recruiting Texas and the opportunity. Though, we’re seeing more and more that bad scheduling is rewarded. I’d rather see that game two years from now, not next season.

      • OSBeavs says:
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        I agree that we should be ranked but even after the 2006 and 2007 season we finished ranked but were ignored in the preseason.

        Also, I don’t know if we would be rewarded for an easy schedule as much as “traditional powerhouses” are rewarded.

  • beavers4life says:
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    I am looking at sout.com and i am seeing Oregon on all available running backs! I don’t get it! Why can we only get 1 running back once every 4 years? GRRRRR They should be looking at OSU!!!

  • beavers4life says:
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    We need this guy! He’s the only one who is looking at OSU right now!!!

    http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=4202722

    • angrybeaver says:
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      He’s going to play at one of the Utah schools from everything I’ve read. Also, have you seen any game film? I haven’t. Not sure how good he is. I didn’t like the Marable recruit. I saw him play in person and he’s just not that fast and doesn’t seem like a viable DI RB. I figured we’d move him to CB but the talk is that he’ll play RB. Kind of scary.

  • beavers4life says:
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    ok we got this guy
    http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=4423784

  • beavers4life says:
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    Happy Iona #1 not #63 DT

    Tyler Perry TE/LB he’s quick, physical, and can catch/block

    Roman Sapolu OG/OT

    These are videos i could find on youtube of OSU commits. enjoy

  • OSBeavs says:
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    Anyone watching the USC vs. Zona game and think that it may be shitty enough for OSU to get the Holiday Bowl invite? I don’t think the game is great but am still doubting that the Beavs will get the invite.

    • angrybeaver says:
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      The Beavers won’t get the invite, even though this game is brutal. I had to turn the game off it was so boring. Beavs definitely have a more explosive/interesting offense that would make for a better game vs the Big 12. Not sure why the committee has written them off, but it seems they have since they’re on record as saying the winner of this game goes.

      • OSBeavs says:
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        It all comes down to money. I know you have made that point several times before too Angry. It is very disappointing too. The points you made a couple of days ago regarding Oregon and money are true, this is a different situation but similar story.

        • angrybeaver says:
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          Yeah, I just don’t understand their calculations. There are thousands of Beavers in California and the Beavs travel well. Hell, I’d travel to that game. After all the flights out of Portland and hotels etc I think the Beavers would bring more money than Arizona, from where you could theoretically make a day trip.

          I know it’s about money, but I’m not understanding how Arizona brings in more. I think in this case it might be about the tie-breaker and Arizona has that.

          Also, Arizona-Oklahoma would put booth Stoops in the Sun Bowl, fairly interesting scenario.

  • JackBeav says:
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    I hear Vegas Bowl against Utah.

    I’d love to play TCU next year. May be a loss, but I saw much more out of Katz than I did Canfield at that age. Besides, it makes BSU less daunting.

    At RB I like this kid:
    http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=92744&season=2010&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncf%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d92744%26season%3d2010
    But I think he’s being ignored because Langsdorf is looking at this kid:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/anthonymeray
    I’d take Meray first. If you want to see who we’ll miss out on next year look up Bishop Sankey.

  • Paulscpa says:
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    Back to the possible TCU game. Sorry, not enough time to look stuff up (too lazy, and working from home), but what does TCU lose off the current team? Does Dalton graduate? Hughes (graduate or leave early)? Maybe we could hit them at the perfect time, when the media perception of them is stronger than their actual talent level. The concern I would have is IF it is a loss, combine that with travelling to Boise St. and then all of a sudden we could be looking at missing a bowl. The schedule flips for us in the conference, but if Locker stays UW is tough, Stanford is not an easy out, Foles will be back, etc. The payday and national exposure with the TCU game would not be worth missing a bowl. That is the tradeoff we have to really look at.

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