Beavs win 4-1, Fehmel complete game. Gave up 8 hits, 1 ER on 112 pitches.
Question now is, how good is the rest of the ucks pitching staff? And can their 3b continue to steal doubles from the good guys.
Oh yeah, the jockitch/cj curse is broken, a night to remember for that fact alone!
I’ve read/heard that Eisert didn’t start tonight because of a sore elbow and/or resting. Gambrell is questionable for Sunday after sitting-out “resting” last weekend. Verburg is out indefinitely, waiting to see an expert and, of course, Abel gone to tommy john. It’s amazing this team is sitting in first place right now. Is the Pac-12 really that great? If we win the conference would we be a top 8 team. Our RPI isn’t great and it will be tough to win our regional without most of our pitchers (our bats aren’t that great minus Adley); but this team has proven to pull out some unexpected wins and are still sitting in first place in the PAC. I fear a big collapse, but I’m still watching.
It was a 124 pitch outing that resulted in Gambrell missing last weekend, how will a 112 pitch effort effect Fehmel? Hopefully his maturity and style will allow him to pitch again next weekend.
It’s hard to count this team out, even though the odds are not in their favor. They have championship in their blood, though. And the Blazers make it hard for me to pay attention. What’s the Jokic/CJ curse?
Apples and oranges as Gambrell throws heat while Fehmel is mostly an off speed location guy. Less stress on Fehmel’s arm than Gambrell who throws 95 or so. Fehmels top speed fastball is around 90-91.
Eggers, who was denied an interview with our favorite AD this week, pulls no punches in his evaluation of Barnes’ “no comment” on the Baseball HC situation, says, “Instead of a “no comment,” he should have said this:
“We’ll extend our June 1 deadline for Pat Casey’s request for reassignment until a week after the season ends. If he decides not to return, I’ll remove the ‘interim’ from Pat Bailey’s title and make him permanent head coach. He deserves that.”
More in the piece, including comments on Horton’s possible future.
Brandon Eisert and Grant Gambrell, normally OSU’s Friday and Sunday starters respectively, turned up this week with pitching arms Bailey referred to as “tender.”
“They’re both going to be back next week,” Bailey said. “They might throw in relief this week, but they’re not going to start.”
Probably a good weekend to rest them both since Oregon isn’t that great of a hitting team. Save the arms for Stanford.
Watched a couple of innings of Stanford vs. Cal after OSU game. Yikes, as Stanford was playing HR derby. They look scary good. If the Beavs can get 1 out of 3 next weekend, I’ll be happy, but first things first. Take care of the Ducks this weekend and last night was a good start. The kid for the Ducks threw pretty well yesterday, but I think he’s their best guy some maybe our bats wake up tonight. Go Beavs.
If Casey doesn’t come back they need a national search. Couple options with Oregon connections I think might have interest are Scott Brosius and Mitch Canham.
Canham is seems to be on a path towards being a big league manager so not sure he’d be interested but a call should be made.
I understand that but a good AD (not that Barnes is one) is always prepared for all possibilities. And planning on handing the job to Bailey (without a search) is not being prepared.
8-5 good guys going the the 8th. Pearce in line for the W, Pfennings 2 hitless innings in relief…….so far.
Stanford DOWN BIG to Cal, Bears lead 18-1 after 8, Tree has 6 hits and 2 e’s, Bears 20 hits and zero e’s.
UPDATE: FINAL IN BERKELEY, BEARS WIN 18-2
And, in Eugene, Pfennings has slammed the door (so far) closing out the b8 in order. Hasn’t allowed a hit yet.
JAKE x2 !!!!
Jake Mulholland three pitches, the last one a 4-6-3 DP started by Jake Dukart to end it, BEAVS WIN 8-5.
Sole possession of first in the PAC.
Pfennings went 3.1 innings, giving up 1 hit.
Tyler Malone 2 for 5 with 3 RBI’s; very big if he is really BACK.
Beau Philip 3 for 6 with a double; he seems to be BACK.
What a difference a week makes. Shaping up to be a huge weekend at Sunken Diamond next week. The PAC 12 Championship and a top 8 seed on the line. Historically, the committee has overlooked the final weekend so best to make our statement over the next 8 days.
Yeah and when the same recruits also pass on Oregon it’s because they didn’t want them anyway and they suck and would just ride the pine for four years.
Chamberlain gets rocked. Walling goes down with an injury after 2 straight walks. And we’ve got about 2 guys left in the pen before we have to put position players on the mound.
Adley pitched in high school and throw into the low to mid 90s according to Mike Parker on the Joe Beaver Show. Apparently, they considered throwing him either last year or the year before out of the bull pen. I guess you never know given the current injuries to the staff.
It was a horrible strike call and reminded me of the home plate umpire in 2017 in the LSU series. I mean, I’ll give the umpire the benefit of the doubt when it a few inches out of the zone but this was into the inside line of the batter’s box on the other side of the plate. Regardless, the Beavs left something like 13-14 ROB and that was their own undoing. That said, if you would have told me going into next weekend’s series against Stanford tied for the conference lead, I would have wondered what you were smoking. Yet, with all of the injuries to the big time arms, the Beavs still have a shot. If Eisert and Gambrell are good to go, I think we’ve got a good shot to win at least 1 or maybe 2 games, but Stanford is awfully talented.
But, at the risk of provoking angry, let’s not forget that he accounted for half the Beavs runs today, was one of only three Beavs to have multiple hits, and laid down a nice SAC bunt. A good athlete who has had limited playing time and has, as they say, a high ceiling.
Are you talking about The Oregonian? We still subscribe to the paper edition (wife needs it for work). I found it odd that they did this huge write up about The Quacks meaningless game three win, babbling on about their incredible pitching (I guess they used a reliever as a starter?). I was surprised they didn’t somehow find a way to say that The Quacks still had a shot at the tournament, but that was the only thing they refrained from in the lovefest.
It’s pretty bad.
We had some good transfers, but the preps we’re getting aren’t really game changers. My rankings have the highest ranked guys as transfers. http://angrybeavs.com/rankings/14278
Musgrove was a nice prep. Possible game changer there.
Well, he’s a homer no matter what, but our recruiting is not good. And if you compare it to the ducks, it’s atrocious. Looks like another long civil war drought for us.
Another quote from Pat Bailey. I realize there is a difference, maybe a fine line, between constructive criticism and confidence killing emphasis on the negative.
Bailey is, by all accounts, a good man and he has gotten this team tied for the top of the PAC with several significant injuries. That said, the absence of Casey’s style of tough love, fact based, and motivational criticism is obvious when you read things like this from the GT:
“We left 15 guys on base and that’s the difference in the game,” Bailey said. “We had 12 hits and only scored two runs (which) is crazy…
“I told them after don’t hang your heads, we’re playing great defense, we came back and had a chance both in the eighth and the ninth innings to tie or win a game. We had a chance, all we needed was a hit. That’s baseball.”
I’m waiting to hear the quotes like, “We will find out who our best 9 hitters are in the important moments. Which guys will step up and be consistent contributors. We have had chances to win games but we aren’t coming through right now. I expect someone to make a play in a key moment against Stanford.”
I go on vacation for a bit and come back to getting swept at home?
They are basically where I expected them to be at the start of the year. Good team but hitting holds them back.
Pitching injuries now will prevent much of a run in the tourney.
Just surprised that few guys have stepped up in this year with the amount of opportunity and the regression of more than a few. Hasn’t been a next man up kind of team.
Unless they get hot offensively, it’s looking like supers are the ceiling this year.
They shouldn’t even be thinking about Stanford yet. Need to win a midweek game against UP this evening. Lose again and the RPI will drop like a rock and they can probably forget about being a national seed.
Getting pretty sick of all the reporters talking about Ducks recruiting. Don’t they have anything else to talk about? Like what about our baseball team or the progression a certain former 4* QB in Corvallis who might just be the next Heisman winner in the state when all is said and done? Bottom line, we are getting elite program changing talent just as much as Oregon but nobody reports it. Fake news!!!
I agree, WFO. Seems the idea of moving Colletto to LB is weak not only because Beavs already have a strong RB corps, but because it removes an experienced QB from the mix.
And AK makes a good point too; he wouldn’t be the first LB to get a few shots at carrying the ball in short yardage goal line situations.
LB is one of the few positions with decent talent/depth. Hmmm. Hopefully he can do both. The running QB does give a added look to the offense, but the pass threat needs to be there. If he is practicing with the D, that dimension will wither.
From D1’s latest field of 64 projection:
Not even a mention of Beavs as having a chance to host a Super, slated at #12 vs #5 Louisville.
PAC has 5 bids, SEC+ACC total 19.
The Gauchos, from angry’s old neighborhood, may host a regional in Las Vegas.
And, another angry connection: Georgia and Georgia Tech sit at #7 and #8, for now.
A little early for a Tournament Thread here, but a Stanford series thread seems due. Angry?
Under Smith, Oregon State isn’t nearly as prominent on Twitter. He hasn’t posted anything to his personal Twitter account since last October. Oregon State football has an active Twitter account, but it mostly spreads news about the current team and former players. OSU assistant coaches have personal Twitter accounts, and some use it to retweet posts from recruits.
Smith acknowledges there is value to using social media as a recruiting tool. It’s just not his style.
“Maybe I’m old school, but I’m just not on it that much,” Smith said. “I’m way more into phone calls that I can have with recruits rather than retweeting their picture. That doesn’t say I’m right for doing it and they’re wrong. It’s just a different way of doing it.
“I’m more into the authentic relationship.”
Smith pauses, and turning to Oregon, says “I’m not saying their stuff isn’t authentic. I’m really not. Sounds like (Cristobal) is all over Twitter. I don’t know. I haven’t seen it. I’m sure there are some benefits to it.”
One might hypothesize that Smith’s method would attract the high output, low ego type of player. So many kids these days are most concerned with seeing their name in lights. The type of player Smith wants is becoming rare and likely makes recruiting much harder. What does he offer as incentive if he doesn’t provide the glitz and glamour like other programs?
Smith can offer a culture that kids believe in and coaching that can help them get better. He will find kids that value the chance to get coached. Not all kids want that or will be receptive to it. He did well at schools with non-elite talent which is what he has at OSU at this point. You don’t hear about glitz and glamour but not all kids want that. Look at Utah for example. Those players don’t seem to care about the attention or the uniform combinations. They respect their coach and take pride in disturbing the expected conference big dogs. It wasn’t long ago the Beavs were winning 6-8 games a year with the same type of guys he is recruiting now.
Sunday game could very well end up being played on Monday. Per Lundeberg, “Friday’s forecast in Palo Alto looks fine, but the weekend could be problematic…Under normal circumstances, Oregon State would not be required to stay Monday if two games get played. But these are not normal circumstances, and I know people behind the scenes have been working out the details”
Saturday’s game has already been moved to a noon start, apparently due to incoming storm late Saturday/early Sunday. Even with the time change, the game is still set to be on PAC12 net, according to The School site.
“A rough fourth inning chased Luke Heimlich for the shortest start of his professional career Tuesday, …Heimlich (3-2, 4.26 ERA) had won his previous three starts entering Tuesday. He escaped jams in each of the first three innings before the Tigres finally got to him…Heimlich finished with five runs allowed off eight hits, two walks, two wild pitches and a hit batter with three strikeouts in 3.2 innings.”
Been staying offline for awhile, doesn’t appear much has happened OSU related over the last 2 weeks. Subscribing for your baseball updates over the weekend.
GoBeavs
Another day, another dipshit psychopath with a gun at a high school, this time at Portland’s Parkrose High, tackled by former duck Keanon Lowe. Fuck the ducks, but +1000 for that dude.
+1000 for Lowe, but is anybody else perplexed why a guy who went to Jesuit HS, with a degree from UofO, is working security guard detail at Parkrose?
Don’t get me wrong, we need good people to fill these positions, and he was the right guy/right place/right time, but is that where a duck degree lands you after graduation?
Good Lord, it looks like Stanford is taking batting practice against Fehmel. 6-5 Cards now.
Home run, triple, sac fly up against the CF fence, double off the RF wall. Did I miss anything?
And are these announcers told to bring up Oregon at random times? Who cares about their game against USC? It’s meaningless, yet one of the commentators said “Oregon is in need of wins”. Wins for what? They’re a shitty team, with an overpaid, under performing manager. They aren’t going anywhere.
PC is not the coach. This comment is made every time there is a loss. The second baseman also doesn’t look like grenier, the right fielder doesn’t look like larnach, Stanford this year doesn’t look like Stanford last year.
@Rev, yes I saw some of them but couldn’t watch the whole game. I’m not saying the coaching is perfect etc. There obviously has been some differences this year in attention to detail. I just get tired of the predictable comments when they lose regarding Bailey/Casey. And some of the third year players are definitely not stepping up Lomé they should. They also are more like second year or even first year full time players. They should be growing up by now and that game could have easily been a win. Should we think back to when Casey didn’t challenge the call down the line in the college World Series two years ago? He wasn’t a perfect coach. No coaches are. We have to trust Bailey is getting these guys where they need to be when it matters most. I want to see what they do in a regional. And who cares if they host. If all pitchers are healthy and the bats are clicking that’s more important.
We looked bad in every aspect of the game tonight. Fehmel was not on and after screaming at my TV for Pat to pull him, in trots Mundt and suddenly I’m thinking “oh crap, maybe that’s why he wasn’t eager to pull Fehmel”.
Where on earth our are all of our pitchers? Why are half of them sore or injured?
I love Tyler Malone but man, he’s really struggling this year, on defense and offense.
Joe Casey had a really good game this tonight.
The worst thing about our team is that they look defeated throughout the game. They are missing that never say die spirit that they had the last couple years. If we were down in the late innings last year you would almost think “this is right where we want them”. Now if we get down a run or two in the 6th I feel like it’s insurmountable. If we are down 1 in the 7th they basically just have to walk Adley, get Ober to pop up to end the inning and you can almost be assured it’s 6 more easy outs and game over.
Who knows, Stanford looked clearly better than us, but I’m not sure that was saying much. I’m not sure either of us deserve to be top 15 teams right now.
I know we are still ranked decent and are probably doing better than some people expected, but our team is worse in every single way and getting worse by the week it seems. Where on earth would we be without Adley right now. The best part of the rest of this year is going to be seeing him go 1-1 in the draft.
Last night was a debacle. Not unexpected to lose at Stanford on a Friday night without 4 of the top 6 pitchers available for an extended period of time does tend to take a toll.
However, Adley made 3 major gaffs, allowing Stanford to be aggressive on the bases successfully, a passed ball, and 2 atrocious throws to 2nd on steals.
Adley’s throws were bad, but Malone was trying to be Dave Parker in right, but threw it to the back stop like he was tossing to home plate located in the press box. In addition, Malone was on roller skates on the fly he lost in the sun(dusk sky, lights?) Malone should be batting 1st or 9nt because he isn’t coming out of the slump and isn’t reliable to continue any type of rally at this point. I’d rather see someone else in right.
Beavs took a 2 run lead into the bottom of the 5th and Fehmel decided to start throwing bp instead of pitching like a Friday starter in the Pac12.
These are supposed to be the team leaders and settle everybody down for a big game, but they all melted in the basic fundamentals. I agree with Rev above. Fundamentals are not good and discipline is becoming a fond memory. Prove me wrong, injuries have been brutal all year, but so have the upperclassmen (Adley aside).
Baley has a big challenge and he must have known the comparisons would happen. He has them within reach of a conference championship and Regional seed, which is great for many programs in the country. I’m trying not to be that entitled fan who expects to make Omaha every year, but that is the bar that Casey was able to set and fulfill. Go Beavs!
Michael Doctor eluding to some recruiting news with his twitter status. Are the beavs about to get a big recruit all while coach smith doesn’t go crazy on twitter?! Say it ain’t so.
Well, they could have won on Friday night instead of throwing up a shit-fest and actually been competitive during mid-week games to make a Super Regional a better possibility.
Looks like 1 game should played today, but who ultimately makes the call to not make up another game on Monday? League? Home team? Mutual decision by teams playing?
By not playing, Stanford is guaranteed to tie OSU in the conference, at worst. If we had won Friday, would the decision have been different?
C’mon, I’m as discouraged as the next Beav but Jones has contributed by more than being HBP. I seem to remember him taking away a HR from the other side just a few days ago.
Offensively, yes, he has disappointed; but usually does a good job when on the basepaths.
In another triumph for the Larry Scott Broadcasting operation, one of the primary cameras today appears to have petroleum jelly smeared on the exact center of the lens. At least that’s what I see on my computer screen, am I alone??
Leave it to Bob Lundeberg to shed light on the camera debacle, he tweets: “Only took two hours. Not embarrassing at all for the conference of champions”
This, in response to a PAC12 tweet at 1:43pm, “Our team is aware of the foggy camera lens and is working to resolve the issue.
Never resolved, but, Larry is so very busy………….counting his $$$$
I was distracted, but didn’t I also hear the numbnut announcer say the Beavers win despite it only being two outs after the double-play? P-12 the network of amateurs!
Just imagine how bad it would be if champagne Larry didn’t have his office in San Francisco “because that’s where the talent is”. I mean, they’re a production company for shit’s sake.
Portland, whatever they are lol. You know, the one with the RPI approaching 200, where we can beat them by 30 runs and watch our RPI drop. (or lose to them and watch it drop even more)
Even if the Beavers upgrade talent everywhere they still will need a QB that can deliver under pressure and while taking hits to even compete in the P12.
He was hitting something like .127 with 0 home runs when they sent him in there to pinch hit with bases loaded.
They must really love the kid to send them in there with those kind of stats in that important of a situation. Last year he was batted .274. He’s one of the more perplexing drop-offs. Maybe he will turn it around this week.
Stanford has two kids from West Linn High School. Their shortstop Tim Tawa (Sophomore) and their DH and Pitcher Will Mathiessen (Junior). That West Linn High School team was loaded with talent. Included Karsen Lindell who was a UW commit as well but turned pro instead I believe.
I believe that Zac played with Will on one of his summer ball teams and had played against Tawa growing up.
im hearing from a source that if Ethan and Tres return next season, more players will be leaving the program. Let’s just say that two of those players are big time contributors. My source was correct in Washington departure as reported to me in January. The tinkle experiment could implode very soon.
Are the BYU transfer and the Chinese guy scaring everyone off? My bet is that Alfred Hollins is going to leave next. WT fucked around with his playing time and turned him into a head case.
Yeah, I thought about that after commenting. I sit corrected…players that played a lot of minutes and one of those players was highly productive (hard to believe right?).
Who on that team realistically thinks either player gets drafted? I mean, maybe Tres gets a look a look with a free agency offer. Big maybe. but ET won’t get drafted.
I could see the coaches recruiting these guys with the promise of playing time, which we all know is strictly reserved for coaches’ kids as long as they’re in the program. They probably got lured in with that promise, were told “wait a year” and are now basically being told “wait another year.”
The Oregonian has apparently pissed off the wrong people. They posted a clickbait/trolling article after the blazers most recent playoff loss, where they quote social media posts that trolled the blazers. Referencing the blazers guards as the “trash brothers” because they dont measure up to golden state’s “splash brothers”.
Sure, it’s not their own material, but if you dont bother reading the post, it looks like it’s the oregonian coining the phrase.
On top of that, the Blazers star player is playing through a significant rib injury and not really deserving of this treatment.
Well, the Blazers team management didnt appreciate it and has decided to pull all advertising from the oregonian. Whoops.
Wish OSU did the same in relation to the Heimlich coverage.
“The Tecolotes Dos Laredos claimed their first win under new manager Alfonso “Houston” Jiménez Sunday as they defeated Rieleros de Aguascalientes 13-2 in Nuevo Laredo.
Luke Heimlich (4-2, 3.89 ERA) got the start on the mound. Heimlich lasted six innings allowing two runs on six hits while striking out 11.
Someone with twitter, please pass the link on to Bob Lundeberg….he indicates that his Spanish is lacking and may appreciate the English version here. Bob tweeted, “I’m assuming ponchó a 11 is good.”.……….Yes, it is Bob! Especially in just six innings!
Here is Aaron Fitt on the failure of the PAC to see that the OSU-Stanford series included a third game. Note he (and others) places the blame on the PAC12 Network.
The PAC12 Network, you know, the reason for Larry Scott’s level of pay!
Fitt says, “The Pac-12 really dropped the ball in a huge way by not allowing Stanford and Oregon State to play a doubleheader on Friday, to accommodate the Pac-12 Network. “
Fitt goes on to talk about winning percentage determining conference winner and how one loss by Bruins coupled with two wins by Beavs could give the Beavs the title. He admits he’ll have to check this out. NOTE: He should also check out his math; even if the Beavs sweep vs SC, it will take two losses by UCLA for the Beavs to have a better winning percentage.
BTW, Fitt doesn’t see the Beavs hosting a super even if they do, somehow, end up on top of the PAC12.
Good luck with Gulbranson lol. Dude smokes more weed than Snoop Dogg and never has money. Total mooch too. Played with him since grade school, he doesn’t love football at all he was always so surprised he was getting recruited. If it wasn’t for his parents, he would’ve gone to NorCal to work on the pot farms. If he makes it a few years I’ll be surprised. He won’t ever put in extra time and he never watches film and does the bare minimum in the weight room, slacks off in drills and has terrible body language/attitude when he gets sacked… You’ll see!
Tom Brady also gets upset when he gets sacked. You know, some people change/grow up when they get to college. Hopefully your bitterness won’t linger since he got a football scholarship and maybe you didn’t?
I can’t believe Bowcutt flipped to Utah State! 2 words DIRTY RECRUITING!!! I could punch him in the face right now, he made a commitment! So his word means nothing??? Hopefully we can still sign him!!! Ugggh
Bill, they just beat Stanford on the road once and it almost/should have been twice. I can’t believe you would count out the baseball team. This isn’t the football team we are talking about.
I wouldn’t have counted out the 2016-2018 teams, but I have no problem agreeing with the notion that this year’s team won’t get past a super regional on the road against a top-16 seed team.
They have not shown the mental strength to win close games, they make too many fielding mistakes, and (the biggest reason) they lack plate discipline. Pitching depth is important in tournament play, but drawing walks and scoring runs is crucial (hence, why Florida loses in the tournament almost every year.)
They will get smacked in two games if they have to go on the road to Mississippi State or Vanderbilt for the supers.
Beavs picked up the coveted “4*” verbal from WR Zeriah Beason today, out of Texas. At least he’s 4* on Rivals, but on 247 he’s a 3*, which means their articles wont get as many views as Rivals’ will. F 247 and their shitty 3 stars.
I like how the current state of affairs with OSU football has us skeptical that we’ll even be able to hang onto a verbal commitment of a player with more than 3 other P5 offers. It’s the first thing that crosses the mind after hearing about a big verbal commitment and it’s a valid concern
I’m trying to remember, did Smith have any guys from his 2019 class flip to another team? I cant think of any.
I think Smith is of the Chris Peterson philosophy with taking verbal commitments, where he wont allow a guy to announce a verbal commitment unless theyre 100% solid and ready to shut it down. So far in his tenure, he has had pretty good results in that regard.
@Nicebeaver, I didn’t know 247 had that feature, pretty cool. Looking at Washington’s decommits you see the philosophy you mentioned. Just for fun, I looked up the quackers decommits. Lets just say the list is longer than the Beavs.
Not long ago the variation in “offer” numbers was mentioned here. Ucks are in the group which offers 250+ while the Beavs (and UW) offer at least 100 less.
Point being that Smith’s model is to make serious offers to those he has researched while those flashy places which like to count numbers aren’t as selective.
former Beaver assistant Dan Spencer will coach the final regular season series for the Cougs this weekend………………
Until Wazzu actually puts a little money into their baseball program, it is destined to fail. They do have a stadium renovation going on this summer though. Whoever takes that job is gonna have to be patient and Wazzu will have to show equal patience.
Lees was never going to get it turned around without a monetary commitment to the baseball program.
I think OSU has a decent shot at landing UW transfer Colson Yankoff.
Makes sense from the perspective that he already committed to play for Smith at UW. Also from a depth chart perspective. He has to sit 1 year. After that, he would have only Gebbia to compete with for 2 years and would be almost guaranteed to start as a senior. Also consider that Smith has recently asked Colletto to move over to the defensive side of the ball, meaning our remaining depth is that much thinner, with only Willard and Moore remaining, plus incoming freshman Gulbrantson.
Yankoff would be guaranteed a starting spot in his next eligible playing year if Gebbia ever went down with an injury. It’s a good situation to step into actually. He’s also an engineering guy when it comes to academice, and playing at OSU would allow him more road games closer to home than most other options.
He visited UCLA unofficially last week and I wouldn’t be surprised if we hear about him visiting OSU soon.
It was Colletto’s idea to make the switch because he wants to play. Smith ok’d it but if Luton and Gebbia were to be out for a while he could move back over. Yankoff would fit in nicely to bridge the gap between Gebbia and the prep commit. It’s unfortunate that Willard has not progressed. Not sure if that was a bad evaluation by GA’s staff or if he just got lost in the coaching change.
Willard was pretty clearly awful as a prep.
Colletto had intrigue and value with what he did. It’s a bummer he switched. We lose a goal line threat for a linebacker who will never play, so we got worse.
Can Smith still put Colletto in for the same packages he played last year? I don’t see why he can’t still run up the middle. It’s not like he is risking an injury to his throwing arm.
Yankoff had pretty similar rushing stats as a prep, averaging about 100 yds per game, but he’s also a much better passer than Colletto. In this scenario, we lose Colletto’s run threat for a season, but get better in the long run.
And like Krol suggests, Colletto would still technically be available.
I’d almost rather throw 2 RBs out there than Colletto and 1RB anyway. Colletto just isn’t much of a threat to pass. We all saw his Civil War jump pass INT at the goal line in the Civil War.
I’ve advocated a wing T approach to utilize the strength of the RB corps. Regardless of formation, I like having 2 RB sets in the playbook, and using those sets in short yardage situations…anywhere on the field.
One thing about Colletto being in the QB room: sure, it gives you a (predictable) backup if the first two or three guys go down, BUT, doesn’t it take up at least some of the coaches time/effort along with practice reps which could be spent on others?
Beason grades out as a high three star. Why isn’t he a four star? production. He doesn’t have much. His film is 90% screens too. Report say he caught under 30 balls last year.
The goods,
He’s got football speed, plays fast, shows awareness when trying to make a play, catches the ball away from his body.
The best part about his film is that it shows him blocking. That’s something that’ll get him on the field early.
The questions,
Routes – I mean the film didn’t show a whole lot outside of the screens.
Can he separate against good dbs?
Hopefully he has a big senior year and signs in the early period. Other schools will come after him hard when they strike out on their first choices.
Looks like most people in the comments think we win between 0 and 2 games.
I’m not sure what I think yet, but if we win 2 games there will be some balking about Smith. I think he should get one more year at least since GA left a dumpster fire with a stick of dynamite in it.
Getting and staying healthy will be the most important thing this year. that, and improvement on defense. if we trot out the same sad effort on defense this year that we saw in 2018, I can even see Cal Poly marching down the field with time killing, sustained, triple-option drives. They’re not a great team talent wise, but their scheme is so different and we’re just a terrible defensive team anyway.
Hawaii is improved and on the road
OK State (and really every other team we face) is more talented top to bottom.
On the bright side, we have a better DLine this year(hopefully?), we’re adding Addison Gumbs(hopefully??) and we get David Morris back from injury (hopefully???)
But yeah, 2-3 wins really feels like a reasonable expectation and anything better feels like it would be because the breaks went our way (no injuries for us, key injuries for the opponent)
I was a stat recently showing totals wins for FBS teams over the last 5 years. We’re 3rd from worst with 14, trailing only Kansas(9) and Kent State(12).
This season is all about QB play. Defense will see if Luton or Gebbia are up to task. QB completion rate needs to go up to mid 60s for the Beavs to win multiple games and open up the running game.
And if the offense is moving the ball, it’ll keep the defense from being exposed. Smith has shown, he doesn’t really go with the hurry offense all the time.
I don’t know, we’re talking about a historically bad defense last season (thank god UConn was the worst). The D has to improve by at least 25% on key measurements to get the win total to 3 or 4. QB play is important, but when a team is beyond shit on defense that has to be the focus for improvement.
“Bailey said reliever Mitchell Verburg will address the media prior to Thursday’s game. Verburg has been sidelined for nearly a month with an arm injury.”
Scott Barnes has seemed extra confident and happy lately. I can only assume that means Casey is coming back and he will spin like he had something to do with it.
Or maybe he’s a sociopath and is happy to see every program he touches turn into a steaming pile of shit.
That’s what I remember reading too. it was Eggers suggestion to Barnes, rather than a blanket “no comment” statement.
Barnes was on the radio in portland this morning, but i missed most of it. Rip city Mornings on 620AM, at around 7:20.
I managed to catch the tail end to him answering a question about Casey and all I heard was Casey hasn’t decided yet and will either be remaining as the Associate AD or returning as HC. And if he doesn’t return to coaching, the decision will come soon enough that there will still be plenty of time to perform a national coaching search. He said national coaching search more than one time. Seems to be one of those things he really prides himself on is conducting coaching searches.
There was more conversation about athletic department budget and football going away from payday games and trying to schedule more home games with G5 opponents. Nigel Burns seemed pretty skeptical that the Oregon State budget can handle that type of change to scheduling.
Anybody else listen in? I barely was able to catch anything. Maybe a podcast will be put out later.
Canzano will have Barnes on over the noon hour today. Im sure they’ll cover the Casey topic again.
My ears can’t handle that much blowhard at 1 time. Hopefully somebody else can give us the cliff notes
go back and re-read the article. It specifically states that they will extend the deadline to 7 days after the season ends for reassignment. Initially, I thought it was 10days but it’s only 7. It’s not what they should do but rather it’s what they have agreed to do.
my mistake as I overlooked that sentence and found the sentence I referred to above. If Barnes doesn’t give him additional time after the season ends, he’s more of a fool than we thought. Given everything Casey has done for OSU and baseball in this state, he should have as much flexibility as he has earned and deserved it. If not, Barnes can take a hike and I don’t think anyone would be sad if he did.
@Great Swammi
You are makin’ me feel like Rodney Dangerfield! I posted Eggers mention of what Barnes should say on this thread above at 10:34pm on 5/10.
Here is that post:
“Eggers, who was denied an interview with our favorite AD this week, pulls no punches in his evaluation of Barnes’ “no comment” on the Baseball HC situation, says, “Instead of a “no comment,” he should have said this:
“We’ll extend our June 1 deadline for Pat Casey’s request for reassignment until a week after the season ends. If he decides not to return, I’ll remove the ‘interim’ from Pat Bailey’s title and make him permanent head coach. He deserves that.”
More in the piece, including comments on Horton’s possible future.”
Ashley Rutschman is the perfect storm of genetics and environment. The small item referring to his wanting to get out of the car to play with a group of kids he saw . . . I fear no more. School grounds locked down, open space owners afraid to allow games for fear someone will sue them if there’s an injury, 4-year-olds in competition. My past winter in Nicaragua, I enjoyed seeing youngsters devise games on their own. Talent that will never go beyond the dirt streets.
Warren Nolan currently has us at an RPI of 11 but predicts we win 2 of 3 vs SC and end up with an RPI of 17. Two wins will land us as a regional host but it shows how costly that Oklahoma St series was.
PAC 12 champs and the #1 National seed. That team got it done all year until the regional and a soft tossing spinner had them out of sorts. The 2014 and 2017 teams were both the class of college baseball and could have been title teams. The 2019 team may blow their chance to host a regional.
Yikes! Bats go from warm against Stanford to cold against lesser competition. Won’t go far in the tournament, no hitting, and lost too many arms to injury.
I have nothing but respect for Pat Bailey. My fear is we are witnessing Jimmy Anderson 2.0. I would love to see Bailey prove me wrong if Casey doesn’t return.
But if everything is on the up and up, he’s never going to get the chance to be or not be Jimmy because if Casey does not return, they are starting a national search, right?
Do not hire an Anderson or Andersen. I will only charge Barnes 50k for that info from my search firm, DoubleRodent Executive Coaching Search LLC. I also provide search services for craft beer and fine whiskeys.
#1 Candidate: Utah State baseball coach……..if they have a baseball team.
#2 Candidate: Pitt baseball coach.
#3 Candidate: U of Minnesota asst. Pat Casey. Maybe the boosters won’t notice.
Is it arrogance or delusion? Oregonian had an article about “all-you-can-eat” Horton’s future with The Quackies and AD Mullen had the cajones to say that if they win the UCLA series they will be in the tournament discussions. Not sure what tournament he’s talking about, but I like the fact that he wants to hang on to Horton. Good news for the Beavs and for Izzy’s buffet in Eugene!
I’m guessing this is a no, but did anyone watch the sequence at the end of the LSU/Auburn game recently? I think the SEC just knows how to “drop” a game in ridiculous
I posted it last year and can’t find it, but against Wisconsin in the NCAA softball tournament, a Beav gal scored an inside the park HR on a three foot BUNT! The throwing errors were epic.
Beavs RPI now 14, Lundeberg explains why being regional host is a “slam dunk” in this tweet:
“16-9 record against the top 50, none of the other bottom-tier hosts come close to that mark. No. 7 non-conference strength of schedule, 9-7 road record, 20 conference wins. This is a slam-dunk host.”
He did post about a month or so ago. I’m sure of it. Maybe he stroked out when Trump didnt get indicted by Muller. I’m afraid the strain was to much for him to bare.
Unless something traumatic happened prison would seem a higher probability than him passing away. His taste for craft beer and classic rock make it hard to think he was that old. Plus how many old guys can figure out how to post YouTube videos here. I know I can’t.
Been hoping he just got really busy with work and was taking the offseason off from the site. But the longer he stays away, the more i worry for the guy.
Hope to hear from you soon Jack
“Hope to hear from you soon Jack”
Then get read for a thread killing 45 post midnight rant about health insurance and trump’s foreign policy. Oh and some random YouTube music videos. But I agree, when he stays focused, he has some good insight on beaver sports.
No facts to back it but anecdotally it seems like the team played better team ball when there was less nepotism, ie first year of WT and those times when the sons were not given all the minutes.
A total of, what, 7 hits? Only two from guys not named Philip or Rutschman.
HR’s are great and the W most welcome. Nice to see Malone get that single but without more consistency up and down the lineup it’s hard to be very optimistic.
Armstrong sure had a terrific day in the field though, seemed like he was responsible for more than a third of the outs. UPDATE: 8 assists, 3 po’s.
I don’t follow lineup strategy but I have wondered why, after Armstsrong’s fine work when Madrigal was hurt last year, Armstrong didn’t get more playing time thereafter.
Jack always complained about living in Eugene. Quick search of the Eugene Register Guard obits…. shows a John (Jack) XXXXX, not going to publish his last name. Dying on May 8th of “age related causes..” He was “Loved my many friend and former students.” Dude was born in 1926. Any way our boy Jack was pushing 93???
That obit mentions “former students”, did Jack ever indicate that he was in the teaching profession? I always got the idea that he was involved in construction.
Doubtful that jetpack is keeping him out, he seemed tech savvy enough to get around that.
Speaking of which, jetpack continues to be an intermittent annoyance here!
Very possible, fits my image more than a 93 year old. Jack’s comments about friends who served since 911 also tend to make me lean toward this fellow.
Neither obit found here says anything about service in the Navy?
He mentioned wife and daughter, and wife’s prohibition of his smoking an occasional joint till kids were out of the house. I don’t, however, remember mention of grandkids.
Maybe angry’s reference to the letter “C” came from the middle name?
The most likely explanation for Jack’s extended hiatus is that he has repaired to a secure remote location, like the Unibomber, to work on and eventually publish, on this site, his 100,000+ word manifesto setting the world straight on every topic known to man.
Over the SC series, Beavs tallied 5 e’s.
As for offense, pedestrian is putting it mildly. Totals for the 3 games: 32 k’s and15 hits (7 of which were by either Philip or Rutschman).
Can Bailey, or anyone other than the players themselves, turn these bats around?
Host sites to be announced at NCAA.com and on social media at 5:30 p.m. PT on Sunday.
From the “Does it matter now?” file, there is this from Eggers twitter:
We still have no explanation in the press box what the call was on Zalesky’s strikeout with runners second and third and one out in B8. He was not allowed to run to first on the third strike after the ball bounced off the turf.
Sure seemed strange that he didn’t run that one out, but Philip’s slow start on his double down the line seemed strange too. Gotta think Zalesky heard the ump cry “foul”.
The Beavers have lost eight of their last 13 games heading into the postseason, after today’s shutout Bailey said this (per the GT),
“There’s nothing you can do about it so you’ve got to show up and I told them today things had better change from a competitive viewpoint in terms of helping each other out and wanting to fight for one another,” Bailey said. “That’s going to have to change if we want to do well in the postseason.”
Why are you such a douchey prick? This team lost 3 position players to the 1st round last year. Two of their top arms have been injured all year. All that and they are still in position to host which means they are a top 16 team.
I get tired of all of the bitching. Yes the beavs have had a rough year, anybody that knows anything about baseball understands that it doesn’t take much to get out of your groove… that isn’t a coaching issue… you don’t just face plant after a coaching change over the course of a few months…, they just aren’t as good this year… if you believe that it is coaching than you must believe that Pat Casey would make any team in the PAC 12 a national champion in one year… which is just straight BS
This team is a team in transition just as the 2007 and 2016 teams were.
I am still amazed at some of the reactions on this site. You guys have raised Pat Casey to god status. Teams aren’t going to be the #1 seed every year.
And to answer the coaching vs. talent question. It is most likely talent. This team just doesn’t have the talent other OSU teams have had.
I absolutely want Pat Casey back because he is Pat Casey but I don’t think they’d be that much better with Casey. I just don’t.
I think we have to ask ourselves if Casey was the coach this year would the team have hit better? Some badly needed veterans have regressed and some of the younger players never developed consistency. Does fear make someone hit better or not take called third strikes? I don’t know. This team seems somewhat similiar to the team that didn’t make the tournament in 2016. I don’t rememver us getting all over Casey’s shit back then, we were mostly on Meggs.
It’s coaching. The Bailey quotes and his philosophy prove that.
These players would be afraid of Casey and perform for him. Bailey is Riley. When I say “afraid” I don’t mean in the GA way of abuse, but more they’d feel Casey’s intensity and know there would be repercussions (playing time, etc) for their performance. These guys don’t seem to care about any of that and have a blase attitude. That’s a top down problem.
Have you ever even hit off a tee? anyone who’s ever been in a batters box knows when your head is filled with negative thoughts you aren’t going to hit shit.
Of course I’m arguing with a complete idiot who’s probably never swung a bat and will argue anything. I played for some of these coaches you claim to know. Bailey is nothing like Riley.
Well you claim I’m “biased” towards Casey, Riley, and Bailey. I didn’t play for all 3 like Dallas Buck did.
And if you were so good at baseball why can’t you recognize and appreciate talent? Casey is/was the best coach in the country. Riley has his faults but his program was much more successful than what we’ve seen since.
“Riley has his faults but his program was much more successful than what we’ve seen since.”
It’s a fools errand to compare Riley to “what we’ve seen since”. The standard should relate more to what can realistically be achieved by a HC, period. Alertness to the real-time game situation, willingness to support his own players when dirty hits occur, the list goes on. Riley, especially for the last several years, did not measure up.
As for raising Pat Casey to God Status, I’ve already posted a reminder of the regional loss to the Anteaters, by a Casey coached team which BTW lost 2 of 3 to SC to close out the season in 2014.
And, have you seen any other site refer to Casey’s “warts”?
Whether angry ever hit off a T is irrelevant, he has a (while Not God Like) pretty good record analyzing coaches and, especially, football players. It’s all a discussion of opinions here anyway.
GO BEAVS!
Luke Heimlich suffered the loss on the mound for the Tecos. He lasted four innings allowing 10 hits and six runs while striking out three. Saturday’s performance was Heimlich’s shortest outing since lasting 3.2 innings against Quintana Roo on May 14. The defeat also marked Heimlich’s first loss since April 19, which was against Yucatan.
I just read an article regarding OSU and potential commit Sasha Goforth, 5-star one of the top ranked players in the country from Arky. Apparently, she had narrowed her decision to Arky and OSU but Arky just lost their coach so the article suggested that OSU might have the inside track. She would be a significant talent for the Beavs if Rueck can pull it off especially taking a player of that caliber out her own backyard. Sasha, goforth and become a Beaver.
They very recently lost their assistant coach (Lacey Goldwire) to Tennessee and she was one of the lead recruiters for Ms. Goforth. But I doubt that makes a big difference in her decision.
You know all this bitching about the state of our program after one down season reminds me a lot of certain fans that like to say “natty”… y’all are acting no different than them and you are the same ones that bitch about duck fans.
I didn’t say just suck it up… You act like they laid an egg this year… I am sorry but there are two top 5 teams in the PAC 12… Oregon State isn’t one of them but for all the injuries this season, I’d say they had a pretty good year… With how tough the PAC 12 is this year this is far from a poor performance… quit trying to justify your delusions
Your right Angry… Apparently we need a knowledgeable great leader like you… you’d solve the hitting struggles in one day… just with your pure leadership they would be smashing the ball.. since hitting has so much to do with leadership, give me a break… you can’t be serious
I have a hard time saying Bailey is a poor leader. A poor leader could not have Bailey’s record at George Fox (353-158, National COY in ’04, Eight times named NW Conf COY).
We have a very small sample of Bailey as HC at this level. Given that, are there differences between his situation at G. Fox and now? It is hard to believe he had better assistants at GF, maybe the caliber of athletes is part of the answer? Do those players respond better to his approach?
Regardless, there is a basic approach to these discussions which may be causing confusion (and some apparent animosity): Some here don’t recognize that the standard being used to define “good coach”, “good performance” is not always a comparison to a specific individual (ex: Casey, Riley) but to a standard. That standard, it seems to me, is a level of performance which (in the mind of the writer) is reasonably achievable.
It does seem reasonably achievable that Bailey’s team should have seen improvement by at least some of the veterans who’ve been mentioned here.
Speaking of veterans, pause a moment, please, to reflect on the sacrifices made by many. Nowadays so many do not even know a service member, your interest in hearing the story of a vet you may encounter will brighten their day…..and yours.
Record wise this team finished about as expected. However, you can’t deny there was a lack of player development and an inability to manufacture runs. Preston Jones and Tyler Malone should have developed into top 10 round draft picks this year. Both regressed along with Claunch and Taylor. Casey teams always put pressure on the defense. I saw very few successful sac bunts or hit and runs this year. Regardless of the talent level this year the fundamentals weren’t there.
Don’t you think some of that responsibility lies with the players too? As a coach you can tell or teach a player anything it’s his responsibility to work on it… not saying that the coaching has been stellar, but this drop off is not all on the coaching… the answer lies in between… people always try to peg one thing as the reason for struggles but it’s usually more than just that one thing
You pick and choose things to prove yourself right… you wanna hang your hat on Preston Jones? He never looked like a star player anyway. That facts are the Beavs are a top 16 team. Does that happen with no leadership? Our roster apparently full of guys underperforming and no leadership yet we’re hosting…
Agree with the Rev. They seemed to lose some of the killer swag as the year progressed. Even with the defensive foibles in Surprise, they had a swag of F you, we are the National Champions.
The guys that should have been bell cows were not. I thought they would finish third, but they were
arguably playing worse as the year progressed.and that is the concern.
“they were arguably playing worse as the year progressed.and that is the concern.”
Spot on! The rodent with Multiple Personality Disorder scores………again!
Angry @ Angry – Preston Jones has the tools to play professional baseball. I believe he’s more gifted than Steven Kwan. If I’m picking on him, it’s because I believe he has the ability to do more. Jones was a stud athlete in high school and his brother is playing pro ball. He’s shown flashes of his
potential the last 2 seasons but something is missing this year. I think it’s the competitive edge/attitude that Casey inspired in his players. So I guess I disagree with you and think he should have been a star player this season.
Or, act entitled and spoiled like duck fans. Let’s face it, expectations for this year’s team were too unrealistic after replacing 7 position players and losing some top pitching along the way. Certainly it has been disappointing, but I’ll take a disappointing season on the heels of winning the National Championship in 2018 and at least qualifying for the post season. From what I understand, there’s a pretty strong class coming in next season too. This team will be back in the CWS and it will be sooner than later especially when Casey returns to the Beavers.
RIP Bart Starr. My childhood sports hero and reason I became a Packer fan. Definition of class and poise under pressure. This actually makes me very sad.
OOB, I’ve read many of your posts and what has become evident to me is what a solid person you are. I respect how you stay above the mud and the muck while still getting your point across. You are a great Beaver. Cheers!
I can be as critical as anyone here. But some of you need step back and look at the last 15 years of Oregon St baseball for what it has been. What Pat Casey built. It took him 10 years to get a team to Omaha. Be appreciative of that. Enjoy this success. It’s not going to last forever. Even if Casey does comeback for next season.
Look at ASU. USC. Stanford. How many titles have they won? In the last 20 years????
No one is saying to accept mediocrity.
For the record, I am concerned about the regression of a handful of players this year. Especially with hitting. Is that a coaching issue or because of the loss of better hitters from last year that we’re able to protect in the lineup? Again, it’s possible we got spoiled. Last years team I believe was the best hitting team we’ve ever witnessed in Corvallis. This years team is Jekyll and Hyde.
But the team ERA is still there. That will keep them in games.
I said it over a month ago. This is a regional team. Could be a super regional team. They met my expectations. But I don’t expect a return trip to Omaha.
And yes, injuries are a factor. Not an excuse, angry. See last years Corvallis regional and ask LSU.
Valid points and I agree that the chance for a return to Omaha went out the window when Abel picked up that suitcase. As far as nothing lasting forever, those downturns followed the loss of a legendary coach. PC is young enough for another 8-10 year run if he wants to.
I think that is cause of my and most Beav fans angst. We finally have a self sustaining championship sports program and then the coach pulls the plug. It is the ultimate Luck O da Beavs moment.
Not a bad draw for first round. Weather looks good. Maybe they jell and do 2006 again?
If I was Adley on June 2nd I would check into a nice hotel, with twenty-four hour room service, handicapped equipped bathroom for added safety, full cable access and a pile of reading. Do not leave that room until the multi-million dollar check from Baltimore clears the bank on or about June 10th.
PS: On a side note. We are acquainted with Adley’s parent. They named him Adley in the hope that the nickname “Ad” would stick in honor of his grandfather the legendary LInfield coach and great mentor to hundreds of young men. Unfortunately granddad, who was born in 1931, was given the name Adolph. Some guy in Germany sort of ruined that name back in the 40’s.
Cincy Bearcats hit the shit out of the ball in their conference tourney, not sure how that translates against Beaver pitching, but 22 runs against UConn is impressive nonetheless. Especially in a conference championship game.
Our guy Lundeberg isn’t worried, tweets this about the three teams coming to Corvallis:
“All three teams are hot, but not a lot of quality wins there. OSU has enough pitching to get through unscathed
I really want to stop looking ahead to UCLA, but the Creighton/Michigan/Cincinnati combo just isn’t that scary. Still surprised that OSU got an easier regional draw than several higher-ranked hosts, including Stanford and Mississippi State.”
No word on whether Bob will walk barefoot somewhere if he is wrong!
Washington had a realistic chance to be a starter his junior season and on the surface it would appear that he was in line for more than eight minutes a game this season. Now he’s going to sit out a season in the Mountain West?
The only thing that makes sense here is Washington didn’t like the culture of the OSU program. Played a decent amount in important moments as a true freshman. Had more playing time coming if he earned it next season.
Eggers up with two articles worth your time; one on Bailey and the other Yeski and pitching injuries.
Once again, Eggers calls out Barnes, some excerpts: ,,,So it appears that if Casey opts not to return to coach the Beavers, Bailey is out. Otherwise, why would there be a need for a “search”?
Bailey is handling the situation with class. He says he has not spoken about the situation with either Barnes — hard to believe — or Casey…
(Bailey says) “It’s great to win games, but the development of men is why both Pat and I are in the coaching business.”
It’s also why Barnes should show Bailey a little more respect.
The baseball team got exactly what they earned. The seeding is correct after losing the series to USC.
The offense will hold back this team from any significant postseason run. It’s unfair to compare the team to last year’s because of talent. BUT the floor last year for any regular was Armstrong at .262. This year, there are 9 guys who have seen a good amount of playing time hitting below that.
I didn’t believe it myself but when I checked the facts, this year’s pitching staff is better than last years even with all of the injuries. Credit to Yeskie for managing all of the injuries that popped up this year.
So for them to advance here’s the things that need to go right,
1. Pitching needs to keep form. If Eisert returns, that’s a huge help.
2. Bottom of the lineup guys need to grind out at bats and get on base anyway they can when the lineup turns over.
3. It would help if lower seeds upset higher seeds on the other side of the brackets. If Beavs advance to Supers, they’ve never made it to Omaha going on the road.
If a team needs more than a few miracles to contend, then it’s not looking good. It’s going to be a tough regional. Then an even tougher super. Don’t really need to think beyond that.
Always appreciate your input and analysis, Bill.
A couple comments:
1) “If Eisert returns, that’s a huge help”……only if he shows very little rust.
2) Along with the pitching stats being better than last year, some will be surprised to know that the conference W/L record this year is better than last (by 1 game).
The 2014 team had momentum and lost, the 2018 group had mo and won. This team has no momentum and needs to generate some from the very first regional game.
My outlook is a lot closer to yours, Bill, than to that of Lundeberg as mentioned above. I think he is smart not to make one of his “barefoot” bets on this.
If he hasn’t made up his mind yet, I don’t think he’s coming back.
I’m really not sure what to do with Bailey but I lean toward a new HC. The negatives of keeping Bailey on outweigh the positives.
Negatives – the long term health of the program due to his age, his ability to motivate players/regression of player development, recruiting a much younger generation,
Positives – managed a really crappy situation where his job was in question the whole year, managed to keep winning in spite of all the lost talent.
The big thing for me is the age. He’s not going to coach for a long time. A few more years and that’s it. I would make the change now while the program is still humming along instead of chancing a slow decline of the program. Of course, could always promote Yeskie. He’s going to be a top candidate this offseason. And if Yeskie gets a HC job somewhere else, then even more reason to bring in a new staff.
This would bring some turmoil to the current staff as they are all ex players.
So the big question would be, who do you bring in? Luckily the job will be the hottest one in the country so nearly everyone will take Barnes’s call. I really don’t know. I like the TCU coach a lot. Had success wherever he’s been. Snuck his team into the tourney this year.
BA has a list of potential guys. They speculate Bailey will get the job if Casey doesn’t return.
But as always, the future coach should be Mitch Canham. However, he’s on track for a big league job in the next several years.
I believe Casey will come back so I’m going to say when that happens, how does that affect the 2 paid assistant coaches? Does Bailey retire then, or someone else would then most likely leave instead of going back to unpaid.
I’m guessing Casey hasn’t announced anything right now because of the timing. Just because Casey hasn’t announced anything doesn’t mean his mind isn’t made up. I heard this weekend he is not very pleased with how the team has been going about their season. I agree with him but that doesn’t mean he is coming back. I think we all feel there have been some underachieving elements this year.
@Bill, good info on the pitching this year. It feels like the staff has taken a step back but they have kept the up and down offense within striking distance. If the offense had a few more timely hits, well, we know how that can change a record from years past.
Speaking to Yeskie at the autograph signing during football season at Truax, I don’t see Yeskie leaving. He has had his chances. Now that might be different if he wants the head coaching job at OSU and is passed over. I have confidence not in Barnes, but in Casey making sure the right person is the head coach next year whether it’s him, Yeskie, or Bailey. Casey won’t let Barnes do something dumb and lose out on Yeskie if he is the man for the job.
Maybe Casey is waiting to announce he will come back only if Barnes will leave?! I know who Beaver Nation would support!
Yeskie also got a raise last year when he had the chance to leave so of course he will be a popular candidate again this summer but he has already proven he wants to stay with the Beavs.
I’ve got to wonder if Yeskie’s stock has soured with the rash of arm injuries. Not pointing fingered at anyone but I’m sure it will be used against him in recruiting.
I still buy into the theory this was just a plan to get Bailey a pay bump before he retires as a thank you for everything he’s done for the program. Yeskie got the big raise last year and the athletic department didnt have the funds to also give Bailey a big bump. This plan allowed Casey to get one of his friends paid before he heads off into the sunset. Then Casey comes back and resumes control of the program while Bailey gets a more comfortable retirement.
I read that Casey has, at minimum, a 10 day grace period even after his final deadline passes.
The contract, obtained by The Oregonian/OregonLive, has a section titled ‘Reassignment.’ It says Casey can ask to be reassigned as OSU baseball coach within a specific period of time.
In order to resume duties as baseball coach, Casey must request the reassignment by June 1, 2019, or earlier, if the school begins to negotiate with a prospective head coaching candidate. In that case, Barnes must give Casey written notice, and Casey has 10 days to respond.
Here is the actual contract language regarding reassignment, the 10 day period applies only if the University is looking for a new HC prior to June 1. Since we are now within 10 days of June 1, that consideration is mute.
B. Casey’s option to request reassignment under Section VI(A) expires if University does not receive Casey’s written request on or before the earlier of:
1. June 1, 2019; or
2. 10 business days following Director’s written notice to Casey that the University desires
to engage in negotiations with a prospective Head Coach of the University baseball
team.
Really, though, until a new HC is named (or negotiations with a prospective new HC are in a very advanced stage) it is hard to imagine even Barnes refusing to reinstate Casey if Casey says he wants the job.
If we go back in time a little, thinking back to when Casey’s “retirement” was announced, the whole thing felt like a charade. Casey didn’t want to have his retirement announced. Barnes is the one who made it happen. In my opinion, he needed to make everything look legitimate and like a late decision by Casey to avoid the need for a late season coaching search.
That way, Bailey could assume the interim role immediately, without our AD needing to go through the whole interview process/minority candidate consideration steps/etc…
Casey didn’t want the attention of a retirement, probably because he wasn’t actually retiring. I still think the whole thing was orchestrated to get Bailey a nice raise with minimal effort on the ADs part. And now that he has a nice bonus, Bailey can retire and Casey can return. Then Jenkins moves up into the assistant role Bailey held in the past.
The June 1st deadline was just poor planning on everybody’s part. Now, Casey needs to make his intentions known possibly during the Beavs postseason run (or after, if they lose their first 2 games by Saturday afternoon). Maybe Casey knew they wouldn’t make it past Saturday? ouch
Go after the ex-Beav now coach of UCSB. He is young, a proven winner, and tends to do more with less. He was a big reason how Oregon was able to become a decent pitching program in 2013, etc. His team upset Louisville in 2015 with a walk-off grand slam. Not sure if he would want to leave Santa Barbara, nice weather, etc, but if he wants a step up in facilities and pedigree….he’d be the man. http://www.ucsbgauchos.com/sports/m-basebl/coaches/Andrew_Checketts?view=bio
Not sure if this has been mentioned above yet but Tres Tinkle returning for last year, pulled his name from NBA Draft. Ethan must decide by tomorrow. So what are the expectations now?
Kerry Eggers had an tweet about Tres returning a few days ago, and in it he pretty matter of factly claimed Ethan will be coming back too. It read more like fact based reporting rather than Eggers’ personal opinion.
Oh my God you guys this duck fan was walking with his family and so I put on my Benny the beaver mascot replica head and ran up to them and was like hahahaha you guys fired that fat fuck so much for winning nattys in baseball and he was like… what? And I was like like that’s RIGHT mother fucker! Best college town in the pac 12 and our baseball team won the national championship! And his wife was all are you seriously saying that in front of our kids right now? And I was like that’s right someones gotta teach these kids the right direction in life! And the husband just said ‘please go away’ lol he had no response because he knew I was right about everything! Even the one kid started crying it was great! You guys would’ve loved it
For dumb reasons, like artificially boosting your artificial class ranking. Unfortunately its a game OSU needs to engage in. Having the lowest ranked team in the conference year after year looks pretty bad.
This kid is from Salem originally and wants to play for OSU, so recruiting him probably didnt take much effort. And he is already ranked as a 3* guy who will only go up between now and signing day.
And there’s the chance he still shows up after mission. So in that regard it would be worth it to at least try.
I don’t have numbers nor do a pay a whole ton of attention to this but it always seems like these mission kids end up at BYU or Utah St. Do we ever actually keep any of these kids once they get back from their missions?
The only one I recall is Riley Sharp. He just came back last year and played 4 games to preserve his RS. Haven’t heard much about him this spring but our LBs are deep.
Sorry BG…. But to qualify as mission you would need to do it for two years, wearing a white shirt, necktie and name badge, while not falling off your bike the entire time. Nice try.
Didn’t know he had OR roots and is a Beav fan. This makes more sense. This might help him stay committed to OSU after his mission. Appreciate the insight.
That’s a hell of a long ways from Astoria, Oregon. Dating for years? I hope not too many years, did I read the article correctly, she’s still just 21 years old?
Sounds like the general feeling around the football team regarding football recruiting is next week hopefully we get one more on board. Will try to learn a little more between now and then, but sounds optimistic we’ll add another 2020 guy soon.
Last time I commented first, we got swept….
What he said ^^^^^^^^
7pm game? These games are so late.
Beavs win 4-1, Fehmel complete game. Gave up 8 hits, 1 ER on 112 pitches.
Question now is, how good is the rest of the ucks pitching staff? And can their 3b continue to steal doubles from the good guys.
Oh yeah, the jockitch/cj curse is broken, a night to remember for that fact alone!
Eisert with a tender elbow and no sign of Mulholland. Hope we have enough arms to get through the weekend. Great effort by Fehmel though.
And how long is the Verburg story gonna be that he is going to see a specialist on Tuesday? Which Tuesday??
Seeing the same specialist in Dallas that Abel did. That does not sound good.
Luggage specialist?
Paging Dr. Samsonite
“how good is the rest of the ucks pitching staff?”
Arizona lit them up last weekend. 28 runs on Sunday. You read that right. Arizona won by three touchdowns.
Beavs need to win this series. A sweep would be preferable.
I’ve read/heard that Eisert didn’t start tonight because of a sore elbow and/or resting. Gambrell is questionable for Sunday after sitting-out “resting” last weekend. Verburg is out indefinitely, waiting to see an expert and, of course, Abel gone to tommy john. It’s amazing this team is sitting in first place right now. Is the Pac-12 really that great? If we win the conference would we be a top 8 team. Our RPI isn’t great and it will be tough to win our regional without most of our pitchers (our bats aren’t that great minus Adley); but this team has proven to pull out some unexpected wins and are still sitting in first place in the PAC. I fear a big collapse, but I’m still watching.
It was a 124 pitch outing that resulted in Gambrell missing last weekend, how will a 112 pitch effort effect Fehmel? Hopefully his maturity and style will allow him to pitch again next weekend.
It’s hard to count this team out, even though the odds are not in their favor. They have championship in their blood, though. And the Blazers make it hard for me to pay attention. What’s the Jokic/CJ curse?
The curse? ………see the first two comments in this thread.
Duh. I’ve overdosed on Blazers.
Apples and oranges as Gambrell throws heat while Fehmel is mostly an off speed location guy. Less stress on Fehmel’s arm than Gambrell who throws 95 or so. Fehmels top speed fastball is around 90-91.
Thus the mention of “style”
“Our RPI isn’t great”
On what planet? 16th after tonight. SOS also 26
http://warrennolan.com/baseball/2019/rpi-live
True. I meant “great” relatively for hosting Supers, but up to 16 is good.
Win the conference and they’ll be a national seed
Crap, do we have anyone left to pitch? Those are some big names that are sidelined for whatever reason.
Lundeberg reports Beavs RPI up to 16th after tonights road win.
Eggers, who was denied an interview with our favorite AD this week, pulls no punches in his evaluation of Barnes’ “no comment” on the Baseball HC situation, says, “Instead of a “no comment,” he should have said this:
“We’ll extend our June 1 deadline for Pat Casey’s request for reassignment until a week after the season ends. If he decides not to return, I’ll remove the ‘interim’ from Pat Bailey’s title and make him permanent head coach. He deserves that.”
More in the piece, including comments on Horton’s possible future.
https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/12-sports/428046-335302-beavers-baseball-leadership-up-in-the-air
From Goe’s article. Not gonna link it…………..
Brandon Eisert and Grant Gambrell, normally OSU’s Friday and Sunday starters respectively, turned up this week with pitching arms Bailey referred to as “tender.”
“They’re both going to be back next week,” Bailey said. “They might throw in relief this week, but they’re not going to start.”
Probably a good weekend to rest them both since Oregon isn’t that great of a hitting team. Save the arms for Stanford.
Watched a couple of innings of Stanford vs. Cal after OSU game. Yikes, as Stanford was playing HR derby. They look scary good. If the Beavs can get 1 out of 3 next weekend, I’ll be happy, but first things first. Take care of the Ducks this weekend and last night was a good start. The kid for the Ducks threw pretty well yesterday, but I think he’s their best guy some maybe our bats wake up tonight. Go Beavs.
Good win last night. Classic Bryce. FTD.
We need double digit hits today. A close game would mean we probably use Chamberlain today out of the pen instead of starting him tomorrow.
If Casey doesn’t come back they need a national search. Couple options with Oregon connections I think might have interest are Scott Brosius and Mitch Canham.
Canham is seems to be on a path towards being a big league manager so not sure he’d be interested but a call should be made.
Brosius has shown interest before.
Casey is coming back….guaranteed.
I understand that but a good AD (not that Barnes is one) is always prepared for all possibilities. And planning on handing the job to Bailey (without a search) is not being prepared.
https://mobile.twitter.com/1240JoeRadio/status/1125794020645453825/photo/1 Adley’s Stake, thanks to DFW
8-5 good guys going the the 8th. Pearce in line for the W, Pfennings 2 hitless innings in relief…….so far.
Stanford DOWN BIG to Cal, Bears lead 18-1 after 8, Tree has 6 hits and 2 e’s, Bears 20 hits and zero e’s.
UPDATE: FINAL IN BERKELEY, BEARS WIN 18-2
And, in Eugene, Pfennings has slammed the door (so far) closing out the b8 in order. Hasn’t allowed a hit yet.
JAKE x2 !!!!
Jake Mulholland three pitches, the last one a 4-6-3 DP started by Jake Dukart to end it, BEAVS WIN 8-5.
Sole possession of first in the PAC.
Pfennings went 3.1 innings, giving up 1 hit.
Tyler Malone 2 for 5 with 3 RBI’s; very big if he is really BACK.
Beau Philip 3 for 6 with a double; he seems to be BACK.
What a difference a week makes. Shaping up to be a huge weekend at Sunken Diamond next week. The PAC 12 Championship and a top 8 seed on the line. Historically, the committee has overlooked the final weekend so best to make our statement over the next 8 days.
Alfieri to Cal? That hurts. Would have understood Stanford.
Hoping the brothers on the staff keep on him. If we show improvement this season, who knows what may happen?
Filkins to Cal as well. WTF?
Nemec says the writing was on the wall when few in state targets showed up to the spring game.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AndrewNemec/status/1127392724435345408
That Tweet is barely English. What is he trying to say — that no in-State players were at the latest camp?
He’s been very negative towards this staff’s ability to connect with recruits.
Yeah and when the same recruits also pass on Oregon it’s because they didn’t want them anyway and they suck and would just ride the pine for four years.
Dude’s a fucking hard on.
Beavs softball waiting till this evening for post season selection show, meanwhile check out this catch:
https://sports.yahoo.com/highlight-jessica-garcia-makes-remarkable-225800648.html
OT: Blazers playoff game 7 @ 12:30 on ABC
Baseball CW at noon on PAC.
Stereovision??
Chamberlain is getting the start today.
And Tyler Malone batting cleanup.
Cap’n Obvious here, if he returns to his best form he’ll be a BIG factor over the next few weeks.
Chamberlain gets rocked. Walling goes down with an injury after 2 straight walks. And we’ve got about 2 guys left in the pen before we have to put position players on the mound.
Adley pitched in high school and throw into the low to mid 90s according to Mike Parker on the Joe Beaver Show. Apparently, they considered throwing him either last year or the year before out of the bull pen. I guess you never know given the current injuries to the staff.
Beavers and Blazers laying eggs simultaneously
It’s pathetic how often this team strikes out looking.
McGarry with a no doubter. Bomb makes it 3-2, down 1 in the 8th
Adley got screwed on a terrible strike call and the Beavs leave them loaded in the 8th.
Down 3-2, three more outs left
It was a horrible strike call and reminded me of the home plate umpire in 2017 in the LSU series. I mean, I’ll give the umpire the benefit of the doubt when it a few inches out of the zone but this was into the inside line of the batter’s box on the other side of the plate. Regardless, the Beavs left something like 13-14 ROB and that was their own undoing. That said, if you would have told me going into next weekend’s series against Stanford tied for the conference lead, I would have wondered what you were smoking. Yet, with all of the injuries to the big time arms, the Beavs still have a shot. If Eisert and Gambrell are good to go, I think we’ve got a good shot to win at least 1 or maybe 2 games, but Stanford is awfully talented.
Dukart with a chance to make a name for himself with a man on 3rd and two outs in the 9th.
He watches strike 3 go by and the game is over.
Very true, a missed opportunity for sure.
But, at the risk of provoking angry, let’s not forget that he accounted for half the Beavs runs today, was one of only three Beavs to have multiple hits, and laid down a nice SAC bunt. A good athlete who has had limited playing time and has, as they say, a high ceiling.
With that many hits, should of won by four runs!
Crappy day for Beav sports in general as softball did not make the tourney this year. Granted, they were a bubble team, but the SEC got 13 teams in!
Still won the series. The shitty O news source had no mention of the Beavs locking the series up yesterday…
Are you talking about The Oregonian? We still subscribe to the paper edition (wife needs it for work). I found it odd that they did this huge write up about The Quacks meaningless game three win, babbling on about their incredible pitching (I guess they used a reliever as a starter?). I was surprised they didn’t somehow find a way to say that The Quacks still had a shot at the tournament, but that was the only thing they refrained from in the lovefest.
Found it amusing as well. Classic O
Question. I am a bit nervous and no longer visit pay sites. Is our recruiting really bad?
It’s pretty bad.
We had some good transfers, but the preps we’re getting aren’t really game changers. My rankings have the highest ranked guys as transfers. http://angrybeavs.com/rankings/14278
Musgrove was a nice prep. Possible game changer there.
Darn it thought Nemec was being a homer.
Well, he’s a homer no matter what, but our recruiting is not good. And if you compare it to the ducks, it’s atrocious. Looks like another long civil war drought for us.
For the record I’d take OSU’s running backs and receivers over hole’s any goddamn day.
This explains Jack’s recent absence on the site. He has his hands full, so to speak, batting it out with his parents. Family stuff can be difficult.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7024071/15-year-old-boy-says-parents-cameras-bedroom-stop-masturbating.html
Make America Bate Again!
Nice.
I’ve posted on several occasions that’s Jack’s off quite a bit of the time.
Another quote from Pat Bailey. I realize there is a difference, maybe a fine line, between constructive criticism and confidence killing emphasis on the negative.
Bailey is, by all accounts, a good man and he has gotten this team tied for the top of the PAC with several significant injuries. That said, the absence of Casey’s style of tough love, fact based, and motivational criticism is obvious when you read things like this from the GT:
I’m waiting to hear the quotes like, “We will find out who our best 9 hitters are in the important moments. Which guys will step up and be consistent contributors. We have had chances to win games but we aren’t coming through right now. I expect someone to make a play in a key moment against Stanford.”
I go on vacation for a bit and come back to getting swept at home?
They are basically where I expected them to be at the start of the year. Good team but hitting holds them back.
Pitching injuries now will prevent much of a run in the tourney.
Just surprised that few guys have stepped up in this year with the amount of opportunity and the regression of more than a few. Hasn’t been a next man up kind of team.
Unless they get hot offensively, it’s looking like supers are the ceiling this year.
They shouldn’t even be thinking about Stanford yet. Need to win a midweek game against UP this evening. Lose again and the RPI will drop like a rock and they can probably forget about being a national seed.
They’d have to win out to secure a national seed.
Goal should be to win last two series plus tonight and hope it all works out. They’ll need some help too to get a national seed.
Getting pretty sick of all the reporters talking about Ducks recruiting. Don’t they have anything else to talk about? Like what about our baseball team or the progression a certain former 4* QB in Corvallis who might just be the next Heisman winner in the state when all is said and done? Bottom line, we are getting elite program changing talent just as much as Oregon but nobody reports it. Fake news!!!
Hearing a rumor a certain QB has asked to move to linebacker and his request was granted. Gonna miss his goal line running ability.
Don’t see why they couldn’t utilize him in goalline situations still. I can’t imagine it’s more than a few plays.
Or maybe just let the star tailback that got you to the goal line pound the rock and get his reward for busting his ass all the way down the field.
I agree, WFO. Seems the idea of moving Colletto to LB is weak not only because Beavs already have a strong RB corps, but because it removes an experienced QB from the mix.
And AK makes a good point too; he wouldn’t be the first LB to get a few shots at carrying the ball in short yardage goal line situations.
LB is one of the few positions with decent talent/depth. Hmmm. Hopefully he can do both. The running QB does give a added look to the offense, but the pass threat needs to be there. If he is practicing with the D, that dimension will wither.
The curse of the cat Wednesday is broken.
Liberace is still missing. Either he’s dead or shitting in someone else’s potted plants.
Or he is pursuing his dreams of stardom in Vegas.
Yah, shitting in Ceaser Palaces planter boxes.
From D1’s latest field of 64 projection:
Not even a mention of Beavs as having a chance to host a Super, slated at #12 vs #5 Louisville.
PAC has 5 bids, SEC+ACC total 19.
The Gauchos, from angry’s old neighborhood, may host a regional in Las Vegas.
And, another angry connection: Georgia and Georgia Tech sit at #7 and #8, for now.
A little early for a Tournament Thread here, but a Stanford series thread seems due. Angry?
https://d1baseball.com/projections/college-baseball-projected-field-of-64-may-15/
IDK….should we have a thread for Stanford? It be cursed!!!
Under Smith, Oregon State isn’t nearly as prominent on Twitter. He hasn’t posted anything to his personal Twitter account since last October. Oregon State football has an active Twitter account, but it mostly spreads news about the current team and former players. OSU assistant coaches have personal Twitter accounts, and some use it to retweet posts from recruits.
Smith acknowledges there is value to using social media as a recruiting tool. It’s just not his style.
“Maybe I’m old school, but I’m just not on it that much,” Smith said. “I’m way more into phone calls that I can have with recruits rather than retweeting their picture. That doesn’t say I’m right for doing it and they’re wrong. It’s just a different way of doing it.
“I’m more into the authentic relationship.”
Smith pauses, and turning to Oregon, says “I’m not saying their stuff isn’t authentic. I’m really not. Sounds like (Cristobal) is all over Twitter. I don’t know. I haven’t seen it. I’m sure there are some benefits to it.”
https://i.imgur.com/AevgXrO_d.jpg
One might hypothesize that Smith’s method would attract the high output, low ego type of player. So many kids these days are most concerned with seeing their name in lights. The type of player Smith wants is becoming rare and likely makes recruiting much harder. What does he offer as incentive if he doesn’t provide the glitz and glamour like other programs?
Helfrich Jr, without the benefit of starting with a championship caliber team.
Smith can offer a culture that kids believe in and coaching that can help them get better. He will find kids that value the chance to get coached. Not all kids want that or will be receptive to it. He did well at schools with non-elite talent which is what he has at OSU at this point. You don’t hear about glitz and glamour but not all kids want that. Look at Utah for example. Those players don’t seem to care about the attention or the uniform combinations. They respect their coach and take pride in disturbing the expected conference big dogs. It wasn’t long ago the Beavs were winning 6-8 games a year with the same type of guys he is recruiting now.
Another point about how dumb social
Media is for attracting recruits:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/01/07/alabama-head-coach-nick-saban-doesnt-text-email-or-use-social-media.html
sounds like Eisert is still out. Fehmel to start Friday night
Gambrell will return on Sunday. Dylan Pearce will start on Saturday
Sunday game could very well end up being played on Monday. Per Lundeberg, “Friday’s forecast in Palo Alto looks fine, but the weekend could be problematic…Under normal circumstances, Oregon State would not be required to stay Monday if two games get played. But these are not normal circumstances, and I know people behind the scenes have been working out the details”
Saturday’s game has already been moved to a noon start, apparently due to incoming storm late Saturday/early Sunday. Even with the time change, the game is still set to be on PAC12 net, according to The School site.
“A rough fourth inning chased Luke Heimlich for the shortest start of his professional career Tuesday, …Heimlich (3-2, 4.26 ERA) had won his previous three starts entering Tuesday. He escaped jams in each of the first three innings before the Tigres finally got to him…Heimlich finished with five runs allowed off eight hits, two walks, two wild pitches and a hit batter with three strikeouts in 3.2 innings.”
https://www.lmtonline.com/sports/article/Tecolotes-dominant-at-plate-for-fifth-straight-13846162.php
fortunately his team was already up 9 to 0 when he gave up those runs and he got a no decision
https://mobile.twitter.com/DanWetzel/status/1129174065552461824 Hole payments to b-ball
Wouldn’t be the first time they’ve paid for players.
Been staying offline for awhile, doesn’t appear much has happened OSU related over the last 2 weeks. Subscribing for your baseball updates over the weekend.
GoBeavs
https://apple.news/AHdNotYedRgOYp4ZNQ5n3zQ OSU football related
Yay we’re in the top 100.
Another day, another dipshit psychopath with a gun at a high school, this time at Portland’s Parkrose High, tackled by former duck Keanon Lowe. Fuck the ducks, but +1000 for that dude.
Totally. Nicely done young man.
Hero for sure. Saved a lot of lives with that selfless act.
+1000 for Lowe, but is anybody else perplexed why a guy who went to Jesuit HS, with a degree from UofO, is working security guard detail at Parkrose?
Don’t get me wrong, we need good people to fill these positions, and he was the right guy/right place/right time, but is that where a duck degree lands you after graduation?
Isn’t that blocking the base path? Looked like his legs blocked the path before the ball was in his glove
McGarry solo shot in 2nd puts Beavs up 1-0.
Bob DeCarolis in the stands tonight it looked like.
Tyler Malone needs to get his head out of his ass! Picked off 1st base, error that cost a run and now a base running error.
And a bad play in the outfield
Good Lord, it looks like Stanford is taking batting practice against Fehmel. 6-5 Cards now.
Home run, triple, sac fly up against the CF fence, double off the RF wall. Did I miss anything?
And are these announcers told to bring up Oregon at random times? Who cares about their game against USC? It’s meaningless, yet one of the commentators said “Oregon is in need of wins”. Wins for what? They’re a shitty team, with an overpaid, under performing manager. They aren’t going anywhere.
This does not look like a Pat Casey coached team tonight
Adley had a couple of nice throws to second.
PC is not the coach. This comment is made every time there is a loss. The second baseman also doesn’t look like grenier, the right fielder doesn’t look like larnach, Stanford this year doesn’t look like Stanford last year.
Can still salvage the series. Go Beavs!
The second baseman doesn’t look like Madrigal either. The one outfielder does look like Pat Casey. So we got that going for us.
@beavergopher, yes thanks for the correction. He wasn’t that good so I forgot what position he played, lol
Krol, did you see the mental errors in the field and on the bases by 3rd year players? We weren’t overmatched by Stanford last night.
@Rev, yes I saw some of them but couldn’t watch the whole game. I’m not saying the coaching is perfect etc. There obviously has been some differences this year in attention to detail. I just get tired of the predictable comments when they lose regarding Bailey/Casey. And some of the third year players are definitely not stepping up Lomé they should. They also are more like second year or even first year full time players. They should be growing up by now and that game could have easily been a win. Should we think back to when Casey didn’t challenge the call down the line in the college World Series two years ago? He wasn’t a perfect coach. No coaches are. We have to trust Bailey is getting these guys where they need to be when it matters most. I want to see what they do in a regional. And who cares if they host. If all pitchers are healthy and the bats are clicking that’s more important.
We looked bad in every aspect of the game tonight. Fehmel was not on and after screaming at my TV for Pat to pull him, in trots Mundt and suddenly I’m thinking “oh crap, maybe that’s why he wasn’t eager to pull Fehmel”.
Where on earth our are all of our pitchers? Why are half of them sore or injured?
I love Tyler Malone but man, he’s really struggling this year, on defense and offense.
Joe Casey had a really good game this tonight.
The worst thing about our team is that they look defeated throughout the game. They are missing that never say die spirit that they had the last couple years. If we were down in the late innings last year you would almost think “this is right where we want them”. Now if we get down a run or two in the 6th I feel like it’s insurmountable. If we are down 1 in the 7th they basically just have to walk Adley, get Ober to pop up to end the inning and you can almost be assured it’s 6 more easy outs and game over.
Who knows, Stanford looked clearly better than us, but I’m not sure that was saying much. I’m not sure either of us deserve to be top 15 teams right now.
I know we are still ranked decent and are probably doing better than some people expected, but our team is worse in every single way and getting worse by the week it seems. Where on earth would we be without Adley right now. The best part of the rest of this year is going to be seeing him go 1-1 in the draft.
“Adley right now. The best part of the rest of this year is going to be seeing him go 1-1 in the draft”
Not certain. Bat speed? Pick-off throws to 2nd? Repeat of what I’ve heard/read.
Men’s basketball commit, Shengzi Li. Decommitted from BYU.
https://twitter.com/ShengzheLi99/status/1129608329754365953?s=19
Because of the new tariffs on stuff from China, he will take up 2.5 scholarships.
If he studies science or engineering, sure why not?
Looks like OSU coaches are taken interest in Colson Yankoff, the QB who transferred out of UW.
Taken? Taking?
Showing?
Would be a nice get but I won’t hold my breath.
*have taken* oh, I’m back now. Personal issues resolved with a the best possible outcome. Also Jack is missing…
Good to hear that personal shit actually works out some times.
This is why I decided to go out on top of the college baseball world last year and not follow this year #BIRGlikeaboss
Lundeberg still tweeting that a Monday game is possible.
With SC series starting Thursday, more pitching woes?
Last night was a debacle. Not unexpected to lose at Stanford on a Friday night without 4 of the top 6 pitchers available for an extended period of time does tend to take a toll.
However, Adley made 3 major gaffs, allowing Stanford to be aggressive on the bases successfully, a passed ball, and 2 atrocious throws to 2nd on steals.
Adley’s throws were bad, but Malone was trying to be Dave Parker in right, but threw it to the back stop like he was tossing to home plate located in the press box. In addition, Malone was on roller skates on the fly he lost in the sun(dusk sky, lights?) Malone should be batting 1st or 9nt because he isn’t coming out of the slump and isn’t reliable to continue any type of rally at this point. I’d rather see someone else in right.
Beavs took a 2 run lead into the bottom of the 5th and Fehmel decided to start throwing bp instead of pitching like a Friday starter in the Pac12.
These are supposed to be the team leaders and settle everybody down for a big game, but they all melted in the basic fundamentals. I agree with Rev above. Fundamentals are not good and discipline is becoming a fond memory. Prove me wrong, injuries have been brutal all year, but so have the upperclassmen (Adley aside).
Baley has a big challenge and he must have known the comparisons would happen. He has them within reach of a conference championship and Regional seed, which is great for many programs in the country. I’m trying not to be that entitled fan who expects to make Omaha every year, but that is the bar that Casey was able to set and fulfill. Go Beavs!
Michael Doctor eluding to some recruiting news with his twitter status. Are the beavs about to get a big recruit all while coach smith doesn’t go crazy on twitter?! Say it ain’t so.
Fuck off loser
So with today’s game being cancelled are we basically out of the race for the Pac 12 championship?
That’s two years in a row.
Well, they could have won on Friday night instead of throwing up a shit-fest and actually been competitive during mid-week games to make a Super Regional a better possibility.
Looks like 1 game should played today, but who ultimately makes the call to not make up another game on Monday? League? Home team? Mutual decision by teams playing?
By not playing, Stanford is guaranteed to tie OSU in the conference, at worst. If we had won Friday, would the decision have been different?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2836669-michael-avenatti-will-cooperate-with-oregons-investigation-of-bol-bol-payments.amp.html
All season, I can count on maybe two hands the total number of times the bottom of the lineup has come up with a clutch hit….unbelievable!
….at least Jones can get hit by the ball, gets RBI. About the only way he’s gonna contribute.
C’mon, I’m as discouraged as the next Beav but Jones has contributed by more than being HBP. I seem to remember him taking away a HR from the other side just a few days ago.
Offensively, yes, he has disappointed; but usually does a good job when on the basepaths.
I should clarify my comment, was regarding Jones’s hitting contributions.
In another triumph for the Larry Scott Broadcasting operation, one of the primary cameras today appears to have petroleum jelly smeared on the exact center of the lens. At least that’s what I see on my computer screen, am I alone??
You need to wash your hands before adjusting your monitor…
Nice?…….and I thought I was tossing BG a soft one!!
BG’s still the master ;)
I just turned on the game, how fucking bizarre and cut-rate. They can’t fix it? Have the announcers mentioned it?
Leave it to Bob Lundeberg to shed light on the camera debacle, he tweets:
“Only took two hours. Not embarrassing at all for the conference of champions”
This, in response to a PAC12 tweet at 1:43pm, “Our team is aware of the foggy camera lens and is working to resolve the issue.
Never resolved, but, Larry is so very busy………….counting his $$$$
I was distracted, but didn’t I also hear the numbnut announcer say the Beavers win despite it only being two outs after the double-play? P-12 the network of amateurs!
Just imagine how bad it would be if champagne Larry didn’t have his office in San Francisco “because that’s where the talent is”. I mean, they’re a production company for shit’s sake.
JAKE!
Beavs win 5-2……thank goodness for DP’s!
Warren Nolan has Beavs RPI at #12 now.
UCLA #1, Stanford #14, and the other OSU #8.
Oh, and USC is #85…………don’t want to think about the consequences of a home loss to Trojans!
Even road wins against the Trojan could end up hurting.
The worst part about RPI is that you can be hurt for winning a game. If we were smart we would never play Portland State again.
Considering that Portland State does not have a baseball team, I think that’s probably achievable!
You sly devil…
Portland, whatever they are lol. You know, the one with the RPI approaching 200, where we can beat them by 30 runs and watch our RPI drop. (or lose to them and watch it drop even more)
Come on, man. Portland Pilots, good catholic school. Beat the shit out of the Beavs this year!
Pat Casey was not the coach today.
That explains the 58 guys LOB.
@beavergopher, good one
For those not on twitter, Beavs picked up a verbal from a 2020 QB tonight. He was on an official visit over the weekend
https://twitter.com/Bengulbranson/status/1130288599520358402?s=19
A quarterback!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now let’s hope he stays committed.
Nice. Offers from Cal, KSU, and ASU, too. Pretty good QB schools.
Watching some of his film and noticed how often his OLine let him get rocked right as he releases the ball. Should be good prep for his time here.
Watching some of his film and noticed how often his OLine let him get rocked right as he releases the ball.
He’ll feel right at home.
Moving around in pocket/ability to keep plays alive, recent comparison Matt Moore?
That may have been the deciding factor.
Even if the Beavers upgrade talent everywhere they still will need a QB that can deliver under pressure and while taking hits to even compete in the P12.
Good to see Zac T hit the homer. Senior season has not gone as expected, but he was the unsung hero of last season’s CWS and has been a great Beaver.
Did I hear correctly that the two Oregon kids on the Stanford roster played with Aldley and Zac on the same little league team?
He was hitting something like .127 with 0 home runs when they sent him in there to pinch hit with bases loaded.
They must really love the kid to send them in there with those kind of stats in that important of a situation. Last year he was batted .274. He’s one of the more perplexing drop-offs. Maybe he will turn it around this week.
Stanford has two kids from West Linn High School. Their shortstop Tim Tawa (Sophomore) and their DH and Pitcher Will Mathiessen (Junior). That West Linn High School team was loaded with talent. Included Karsen Lindell who was a UW commit as well but turned pro instead I believe.
I believe that Zac played with Will on one of his summer ball teams and had played against Tawa growing up.
So the PAC-12 announcer f’d that up as well. #surprising.
New QB commit looks like a low 3 star. Downgraded because of production. Hasn’t really produced due to injury, which is another big concern.
A solid example of buying low.
im hearing from a source that if Ethan and Tres return next season, more players will be leaving the program. Let’s just say that two of those players are big time contributors. My source was correct in Washington departure as reported to me in January. The tinkle experiment could implode very soon.
We have big time contributors?
That’s what i was thinking.
Are the BYU transfer and the Chinese guy scaring everyone off? My bet is that Alfred Hollins is going to leave next. WT fucked around with his playing time and turned him into a head case.
Yeah, I thought about that after commenting. I sit corrected…players that played a lot of minutes and one of those players was highly productive (hard to believe right?).
So if the team is better, they’re out of here?
Sound like winners.
Who on that team realistically thinks either player gets drafted? I mean, maybe Tres gets a look a look with a free agency offer. Big maybe. but ET won’t get drafted.
I could see the coaches recruiting these guys with the promise of playing time, which we all know is strictly reserved for coaches’ kids as long as they’re in the program. They probably got lured in with that promise, were told “wait a year” and are now basically being told “wait another year.”
The Oregonian has apparently pissed off the wrong people. They posted a clickbait/trolling article after the blazers most recent playoff loss, where they quote social media posts that trolled the blazers. Referencing the blazers guards as the “trash brothers” because they dont measure up to golden state’s “splash brothers”.
Sure, it’s not their own material, but if you dont bother reading the post, it looks like it’s the oregonian coining the phrase.
On top of that, the Blazers star player is playing through a significant rib injury and not really deserving of this treatment.
Well, the Blazers team management didnt appreciate it and has decided to pull all advertising from the oregonian. Whoops.
Wish OSU did the same in relation to the Heimlich coverage.
https://twitter.com/ChrisDMcGowan/status/1130358962837118976?s=19
Jesus they’re dumb.
This news makes me happy.
https://www.lmtonline.com/sports/article/Tecolotes-claim-first-win-under-Jimenez-13858706.php
Someone with twitter, please pass the link on to Bob Lundeberg….he indicates that his Spanish is lacking and may appreciate the English version here. Bob tweeted, “I’m assuming ponchó a 11 is good.”.……….Yes, it is Bob! Especially in just six innings!
https://www.baseball-reference.com/friv/dictionary.shtml
“$11 ponchos for the first 250 who sneak in” is the direct translation.
Here is Aaron Fitt on the failure of the PAC to see that the OSU-Stanford series included a third game. Note he (and others) places the blame on the PAC12 Network.
The PAC12 Network, you know, the reason for Larry Scott’s level of pay!
Fitt says, “The Pac-12 really dropped the ball in a huge way by not allowing Stanford and Oregon State to play a doubleheader on Friday, to accommodate the Pac-12 Network. “
Fitt goes on to talk about winning percentage determining conference winner and how one loss by Bruins coupled with two wins by Beavs could give the Beavs the title. He admits he’ll have to check this out. NOTE: He should also check out his math; even if the Beavs sweep vs SC, it will take two losses by UCLA for the Beavs to have a better winning percentage.
BTW, Fitt doesn’t see the Beavs hosting a super even if they do, somehow, end up on top of the PAC12.
https://d1baseball.com/chats/d1baseball-weekly-chat-may-20/
Good luck with Gulbranson lol. Dude smokes more weed than Snoop Dogg and never has money. Total mooch too. Played with him since grade school, he doesn’t love football at all he was always so surprised he was getting recruited. If it wasn’t for his parents, he would’ve gone to NorCal to work on the pot farms. If he makes it a few years I’ll be surprised. He won’t ever put in extra time and he never watches film and does the bare minimum in the weight room, slacks off in drills and has terrible body language/attitude when he gets sacked… You’ll see!
If anything you say is true, the Ducks would have offered him.
Washington State interest is all I need. Hell if I was a coach I’d just stalk Mike Leach and offer every QB he offers.
This!
Tom Brady also gets upset when he gets sacked. You know, some people change/grow up when they get to college. Hopefully your bitterness won’t linger since he got a football scholarship and maybe you didn’t?
Shouldn’t you be out chasing girls instead of posting on message boards? At least that’s what I’d be doing if I was in high school.
I can’t believe Bowcutt flipped to Utah State! 2 words DIRTY RECRUITING!!! I could punch him in the face right now, he made a commitment! So his word means nothing??? Hopefully we can still sign him!!! Ugggh
Hoping this is sarcasm but I can’t tell. The QB we just signed flipped from Cal so it happens. Hopefully he is making a good choice for him.
Baseball team will host a regional. Now it just matters who they are matching up vs.
Hosting a super isn’t out of the question. Half the top 8 lost in regionals last year.
If they make it out of regionals and host supers, they’ll head back to Omaha.
This team doesn’t have it in them to win on the road in the supers.
Bill, they just beat Stanford on the road once and it almost/should have been twice. I can’t believe you would count out the baseball team. This isn’t the football team we are talking about.
I wouldn’t have counted out the 2016-2018 teams, but I have no problem agreeing with the notion that this year’s team won’t get past a super regional on the road against a top-16 seed team.
They have not shown the mental strength to win close games, they make too many fielding mistakes, and (the biggest reason) they lack plate discipline. Pitching depth is important in tournament play, but drawing walks and scoring runs is crucial (hence, why Florida loses in the tournament almost every year.)
They will get smacked in two games if they have to go on the road to Mississippi State or Vanderbilt for the supers.
Almost/should of is basically the tag line of this year’s team.
Beavs picked up the coveted “4*” verbal from WR Zeriah Beason today, out of Texas. At least he’s 4* on Rivals, but on 247 he’s a 3*, which means their articles wont get as many views as Rivals’ will. F 247 and their shitty 3 stars.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/zeriah-beason-201735
Very impressive offer list. Can we hang onto him? Feels like a good thing that he and BG committed after visiting together. Hoping that helps!
I like how the current state of affairs with OSU football has us skeptical that we’ll even be able to hang onto a verbal commitment of a player with more than 3 other P5 offers. It’s the first thing that crosses the mind after hearing about a big verbal commitment and it’s a valid concern
Will say his #didntneed2020toseethisvision gives me hope he’s pretty solid. Sounds like buy in to being part of the rebuild.
I’m trying to remember, did Smith have any guys from his 2019 class flip to another team? I cant think of any.
I think Smith is of the Chris Peterson philosophy with taking verbal commitments, where he wont allow a guy to announce a verbal commitment unless theyre 100% solid and ready to shut it down. So far in his tenure, he has had pretty good results in that regard.
The dude who went to Iowa? Or was that Anderson’s guy?
Andersen guy. Spencer Petras
Found a feature on 247 that tracks “decommits”.
Smith only had 1 last year, JC WR Trevon Clark.
And that came after we added Nebraska transfer Tyjon Lindsey and at one of the few positions where we actually have depth.
https://247sports.com/college/oregon-state/Season/2019-Football/Decommits/
@Nicebeaver, I didn’t know 247 had that feature, pretty cool. Looking at Washington’s decommits you see the philosophy you mentioned. Just for fun, I looked up the quackers decommits. Lets just say the list is longer than the Beavs.
Sure the quackers “didn’t want those players anyway.”
Not long ago the variation in “offer” numbers was mentioned here. Ucks are in the group which offers 250+ while the Beavs (and UW) offer at least 100 less.
Point being that Smith’s model is to make serious offers to those he has researched while those flashy places which like to count numbers aren’t as selective.
Marty Lees was let go by Wazzu. He was once viewed as the replacement for Pat Casey if he had stayed here.
former Beaver assistant Dan Spencer will coach the final regular season series for the Cougs this weekend………………
Until Wazzu actually puts a little money into their baseball program, it is destined to fail. They do have a stadium renovation going on this summer though. Whoever takes that job is gonna have to be patient and Wazzu will have to show equal patience.
Lees was never going to get it turned around without a monetary commitment to the baseball program.
I think OSU has a decent shot at landing UW transfer Colson Yankoff.
Makes sense from the perspective that he already committed to play for Smith at UW. Also from a depth chart perspective. He has to sit 1 year. After that, he would have only Gebbia to compete with for 2 years and would be almost guaranteed to start as a senior. Also consider that Smith has recently asked Colletto to move over to the defensive side of the ball, meaning our remaining depth is that much thinner, with only Willard and Moore remaining, plus incoming freshman Gulbrantson.
Yankoff would be guaranteed a starting spot in his next eligible playing year if Gebbia ever went down with an injury. It’s a good situation to step into actually. He’s also an engineering guy when it comes to academice, and playing at OSU would allow him more road games closer to home than most other options.
He visited UCLA unofficially last week and I wouldn’t be surprised if we hear about him visiting OSU soon.
I just hope he signs so we get to make Yankoff jokes.
It was Colletto’s idea to make the switch because he wants to play. Smith ok’d it but if Luton and Gebbia were to be out for a while he could move back over. Yankoff would fit in nicely to bridge the gap between Gebbia and the prep commit. It’s unfortunate that Willard has not progressed. Not sure if that was a bad evaluation by GA’s staff or if he just got lost in the coaching change.
Willard was pretty clearly awful as a prep.
Colletto had intrigue and value with what he did. It’s a bummer he switched. We lose a goal line threat for a linebacker who will never play, so we got worse.
Can Smith still put Colletto in for the same packages he played last year? I don’t see why he can’t still run up the middle. It’s not like he is risking an injury to his throwing arm.
Yankoff had pretty similar rushing stats as a prep, averaging about 100 yds per game, but he’s also a much better passer than Colletto. In this scenario, we lose Colletto’s run threat for a season, but get better in the long run.
And like Krol suggests, Colletto would still technically be available.
I’d almost rather throw 2 RBs out there than Colletto and 1RB anyway. Colletto just isn’t much of a threat to pass. We all saw his Civil War jump pass INT at the goal line in the Civil War.
https://twitter.com/oregonfootball/status/1066093796318883840?s=19
I’ve advocated a wing T approach to utilize the strength of the RB corps. Regardless of formation, I like having 2 RB sets in the playbook, and using those sets in short yardage situations…anywhere on the field.
One thing about Colletto being in the QB room: sure, it gives you a (predictable) backup if the first two or three guys go down, BUT, doesn’t it take up at least some of the coaches time/effort along with practice reps which could be spent on others?
Beason grades out as a high three star. Why isn’t he a four star? production. He doesn’t have much. His film is 90% screens too. Report say he caught under 30 balls last year.
The goods,
He’s got football speed, plays fast, shows awareness when trying to make a play, catches the ball away from his body.
The best part about his film is that it shows him blocking. That’s something that’ll get him on the field early.
The questions,
Routes – I mean the film didn’t show a whole lot outside of the screens.
Can he separate against good dbs?
Hopefully he has a big senior year and signs in the early period. Other schools will come after him hard when they strike out on their first choices.
Did you guys see this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFpwYq0LJAI
Looks like most people in the comments think we win between 0 and 2 games.
I’m not sure what I think yet, but if we win 2 games there will be some balking about Smith. I think he should get one more year at least since GA left a dumpster fire with a stick of dynamite in it.
Getting and staying healthy will be the most important thing this year. that, and improvement on defense. if we trot out the same sad effort on defense this year that we saw in 2018, I can even see Cal Poly marching down the field with time killing, sustained, triple-option drives. They’re not a great team talent wise, but their scheme is so different and we’re just a terrible defensive team anyway.
Hawaii is improved and on the road
OK State (and really every other team we face) is more talented top to bottom.
On the bright side, we have a better DLine this year(hopefully?), we’re adding Addison Gumbs(hopefully??) and we get David Morris back from injury (hopefully???)
But yeah, 2-3 wins really feels like a reasonable expectation and anything better feels like it would be because the breaks went our way (no injuries for us, key injuries for the opponent)
I was a stat recently showing totals wins for FBS teams over the last 5 years. We’re 3rd from worst with 14, trailing only Kansas(9) and Kent State(12).
https://twitter.com/NCAAFNation247/status/1130475387346141184
Always good to know who our competition is. So we only have two teams to beat to be the #1 worst team in D1 football. I think we can do it!
This season is all about QB play. Defense will see if Luton or Gebbia are up to task. QB completion rate needs to go up to mid 60s for the Beavs to win multiple games and open up the running game.
And if the offense is moving the ball, it’ll keep the defense from being exposed. Smith has shown, he doesn’t really go with the hurry offense all the time.
That being said, the ceiling is 4-5 wins.
I don’t know, we’re talking about a historically bad defense last season (thank god UConn was the worst). The D has to improve by at least 25% on key measurements to get the win total to 3 or 4. QB play is important, but when a team is beyond shit on defense that has to be the focus for improvement.
Not a good look for Nike:
https://www.si.com/olympics/2019/05/22/allyson-felix-nike-contract-maternity-protection
Not gonna link it…………..
“Bailey said reliever Mitchell Verburg will address the media prior to Thursday’s game. Verburg has been sidelined for nearly a month with an arm injury.”
The guess here is it will not be good news
So ten days for the Casey decision?
Scott Barnes has seemed extra confident and happy lately. I can only assume that means Casey is coming back and he will spin like he had something to do with it.
Or maybe he’s a sociopath and is happy to see every program he touches turn into a steaming pile of shit.
Some men just want to watch the world burn
barnes and Casey have agreed to extend decision to 20 days after OSU season ends. Article by Kerry eggars in tribune about week and a half ago.
should read 10 not 20 days.
Eggers piece of May 10, headed “Beaver baseball leadership up in the air “ referred to what Barnes should do, not what has actually been done.
That’s what I remember reading too. it was Eggers suggestion to Barnes, rather than a blanket “no comment” statement.
Barnes was on the radio in portland this morning, but i missed most of it. Rip city Mornings on 620AM, at around 7:20.
I managed to catch the tail end to him answering a question about Casey and all I heard was Casey hasn’t decided yet and will either be remaining as the Associate AD or returning as HC. And if he doesn’t return to coaching, the decision will come soon enough that there will still be plenty of time to perform a national coaching search. He said national coaching search more than one time. Seems to be one of those things he really prides himself on is conducting coaching searches.
There was more conversation about athletic department budget and football going away from payday games and trying to schedule more home games with G5 opponents. Nigel Burns seemed pretty skeptical that the Oregon State budget can handle that type of change to scheduling.
Anybody else listen in? I barely was able to catch anything. Maybe a podcast will be put out later.
I think he uses the national search to pad the pockets of his buddies at the search firm. Was a search firm really necessary to hire Smith.
Canzano will have Barnes on over the noon hour today. Im sure they’ll cover the Casey topic again.
My ears can’t handle that much blowhard at 1 time. Hopefully somebody else can give us the cliff notes
go back and re-read the article. It specifically states that they will extend the deadline to 7 days after the season ends for reassignment. Initially, I thought it was 10days but it’s only 7. It’s not what they should do but rather it’s what they have agreed to do.
my mistake as I overlooked that sentence and found the sentence I referred to above. If Barnes doesn’t give him additional time after the season ends, he’s more of a fool than we thought. Given everything Casey has done for OSU and baseball in this state, he should have as much flexibility as he has earned and deserved it. If not, Barnes can take a hike and I don’t think anyone would be sad if he did.
@Great Swammi
You are makin’ me feel like Rodney Dangerfield! I posted Eggers mention of what Barnes should say on this thread above at 10:34pm on 5/10.
Here is that post:
https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/adley-rutschman-is-the-best-mlb-draft-prospect-since-bryce-harper/
Ashley Rutschman is the perfect storm of genetics and environment. The small item referring to his wanting to get out of the car to play with a group of kids he saw . . . I fear no more. School grounds locked down, open space owners afraid to allow games for fear someone will sue them if there’s an injury, 4-year-olds in competition. My past winter in Nicaragua, I enjoyed seeing youngsters devise games on their own. Talent that will never go beyond the dirt streets.
Autocorrect shouldn’t be messing with Adley.
Scott Barnes should resign and go work for Larry Scott in San Francisco. They seem made for each other.
beaver baseball new committed from Linn Benton CC and medford. Sounds like the kid has some pop in his bat too.
Warren Nolan currently has us at an RPI of 11 but predicts we win 2 of 3 vs SC and end up with an RPI of 17. Two wins will land us as a regional host but it shows how costly that Oklahoma St series was.
Anybody have a good link to the game cast? I can’t get any of the main sites to work.
If you aren’t able to watch the pac 12 feed, this stats broadcast should work:
http://stats.statbroadcast.com/mobile/?id=262365
Thanks.
After 6 innings:
SC…. 2runs, 6hits, 0 e’s, 5LOB
Beavs 0runs, 2hits, 2 e’s, 5LOB
Beginning to remind me of the (Casey coached) team that fell to the Anteaters in a Corvallis Regional.
PAC 12 champs and the #1 National seed. That team got it done all year until the regional and a soft tossing spinner had them out of sorts. The 2014 and 2017 teams were both the class of college baseball and could have been title teams. The 2019 team may blow their chance to host a regional.
Man, we are bad at batting…
This^^^^^
disagree that we are batting. We are great at batting but we just can’t hit.
Week in and week out this team continues to be noncompetitive against good pitching (even mediocre pitching.)
Stick a fork in the season if they lose 2 games to USC at home.
Yikes! Bats go from warm against Stanford to cold against lesser competition. Won’t go far in the tournament, no hitting, and lost too many arms to injury.
I have nothing but respect for Pat Bailey. My fear is we are witnessing Jimmy Anderson 2.0. I would love to see Bailey prove me wrong if Casey doesn’t return.
But if everything is on the up and up, he’s never going to get the chance to be or not be Jimmy because if Casey does not return, they are starting a national search, right?
Do not hire an Anderson or Andersen. I will only charge Barnes 50k for that info from my search firm, DoubleRodent Executive Coaching Search LLC. I also provide search services for craft beer and fine whiskeys.
#1 Candidate: Utah State baseball coach……..if they have a baseball team.
#2 Candidate: Pitt baseball coach.
#3 Candidate: U of Minnesota asst. Pat Casey. Maybe the boosters won’t notice.
Is it arrogance or delusion? Oregonian had an article about “all-you-can-eat” Horton’s future with The Quackies and AD Mullen had the cajones to say that if they win the UCLA series they will be in the tournament discussions. Not sure what tournament he’s talking about, but I like the fact that he wants to hang on to Horton. Good news for the Beavs and for Izzy’s buffet in Eugene!
I’m guessing this is a no, but did anyone watch the sequence at the end of the LSU/Auburn game recently? I think the SEC just knows how to “drop” a game in ridiculous
https://twitter.com/LSUbaseball/status/1131663724786397184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1131663724786397184&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.si.com%2Fextra-mustard%2F2019%2F05%2F24%2Ffriday-hot-clicks-raptors-bucks-kawhi-leonard-interview-video fashion.
wow….SEC is so “elite”…….
I posted it last year and can’t find it, but against Wisconsin in the NCAA softball tournament, a Beav gal scored an inside the park HR on a three foot BUNT! The throwing errors were epic.
Speaking of throwing errors.
https://twitter.com/CorkGaines/status/1132113803443888130?s=19
Anyone know anything about the 3* QB commit out of California and the 4* WR commit out of Texas?
He has an incredible offer sheet. His feel is a big nothing burger.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/zeriah-beason-201735
Beavs RPI now 14, Lundeberg explains why being regional host is a “slam dunk” in this tweet:
“16-9 record against the top 50, none of the other bottom-tier hosts come close to that mark. No. 7 non-conference strength of schedule, 9-7 road record, 20 conference wins. This is a slam-dunk host.”
Luck O’ the Beavs…they get swept by USC and get sent packing to someone else’s regional.
Mitchell Verburg had elbow surgery and is out for the rest of the season.
https://www.gazettetimes.com/sports/beavers-sports/baseball/osu-baseball-verburg-has-surgery-expects-to-be-ready-for/article_e5216e3c-d66e-580f-9749-03679f2bbe37.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/inside-one-baseball-player-s-mission-to-rescue-young-girls-in-africa-60197445607 Matt Boyd
Fuck you assholes!!!
Jack actually might have passed.
It has been a while. While he annoys the shit out of me most of the time that would suck.
Yeah. I just don’t see him leaving cold turkey for this long unless he’s left the earth entirely.
No shit, was he old?
He did post about a month or so ago. I’m sure of it. Maybe he stroked out when Trump didnt get indicted by Muller. I’m afraid the strain was to much for him to bare.
He posted April 6th.
I will donate to the aspca in his name
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gspElv1yvc&w=668&h=534
The cruelest thing of all is making that poor yellow lab listen to that terrible song over and over.
Yeah, as annoying as he could be at times, I wouldn’t wish that on him. Rest easy Jack?
Unless something traumatic happened prison would seem a higher probability than him passing away. His taste for craft beer and classic rock make it hard to think he was that old. Plus how many old guys can figure out how to post YouTube videos here. I know I can’t.
Been hoping he just got really busy with work and was taking the offseason off from the site. But the longer he stays away, the more i worry for the guy.
Hope to hear from you soon Jack
“Hope to hear from you soon Jack”
Then get read for a thread killing 45 post midnight rant about health insurance and trump’s foreign policy. Oh and some random YouTube music videos. But I agree, when he stays focused, he has some good insight on beaver sports.
I have his email somewhere from when he used to write the Orange Express blog (that was a good blog). If we don’t hear from him by June I’ll write.
Anyone else having issues with the P12 app tonight?
Yes, it’s fucking awful
Interesting to see who leaves now that Tres is coming back. Hollins is the obvious choice. Vernon too?
No facts to back it but anecdotally it seems like the team played better team ball when there was less nepotism, ie first year of WT and those times when the sons were not given all the minutes.
Does it really even matter? They were shit this year with Tinkle and Stevie. Why would they all of a sudden excel with him coming back?
Ummm. Reread that post.
and comprehend it.
The bats seem to have woken up today. 3 home runs through 4 innings
A total of, what, 7 hits? Only two from guys not named Philip or Rutschman.
HR’s are great and the W most welcome. Nice to see Malone get that single but without more consistency up and down the lineup it’s hard to be very optimistic.
Armstrong sure had a terrific day in the field though, seemed like he was responsible for more than a third of the outs. UPDATE: 8 assists, 3 po’s.
I don’t follow lineup strategy but I have wondered why, after Armstsrong’s fine work when Madrigal was hurt last year, Armstrong didn’t get more playing time thereafter.
https://mobile.twitter.com/kerryeggers/status/1132172797894045696
Jack always complained about living in Eugene. Quick search of the Eugene Register Guard obits…. shows a John (Jack) XXXXX, not going to publish his last name. Dying on May 8th of “age related causes..” He was “Loved my many friend and former students.” Dude was born in 1926. Any way our boy Jack was pushing 93???
I know his last night.
Does it begin with a C?
No this old gentleman’s last name started with an “M”.
Okay, that’s not him.
There’s no way Jack is/was pushing 93.
I think he is/was pretty old. I forget how that came up, but it did somehow.
He sounded young when he called the Joe Beaver Show.
I think he is/was in his late 70s. It seems to me that he stated his age once in a thread.
That obit mentions “former students”, did Jack ever indicate that he was in the teaching profession? I always got the idea that he was involved in construction.
Doubtful that jetpack is keeping him out, he seemed tech savvy enough to get around that.
Speaking of which, jetpack continues to be an intermittent annoyance here!
Not that I know of. Construction yes.
Is JetPack an issue for others?
What about this guy?
https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/registerguard/obituary.aspx?n=john-calvin-goddard&pid=192906079
Very possible, fits my image more than a 93 year old. Jack’s comments about friends who served since 911 also tend to make me lean toward this fellow.
Neither obit found here says anything about service in the Navy?
He mentioned wife and daughter, and wife’s prohibition of his smoking an occasional joint till kids were out of the house. I don’t, however, remember mention of grandkids.
Maybe angry’s reference to the letter “C” came from the middle name?
D1 now has Beavs (RPI 14) opposite Georgia Tech (RPI 8) regional. Lundeberg’s “slam dunk” remark looking valid.
BYU still in Corvallis regional, but one of “last five in”, sets up a possible Thursday start to the regional.
Looks like no Las Vegas regional hosted by UCSB, Gauchos now are slated for the Stanford regional.
https://d1baseball.com/projections/college-baseball-projected-field-of-64-may-25/
The most likely explanation for Jack’s extended hiatus is that he has repaired to a secure remote location, like the Unibomber, to work on and eventually publish, on this site, his 100,000+ word manifesto setting the world straight on every topic known to man.
This seems plausible ^^^^^^^
I hope so…I miss him.
Is the feed screwed up or is my brothers internet?
Only way i could get it was a 5 minute free preview on pac12 now app, but then it dropped me and i dont want to deal with it anymore
Luckily the NCAA committee doesn’t consider the last weekend. ;)
This year they will.
Is Meggs on that committee?
I just got home, did they really just get shut out twice at home by USC? WTF?
The offense is so pedestrian. I have little confidence in this team to make it out of a regional, even if they host.
Two shut-out losses at home to a non-tournament team says it all.
Over the SC series, Beavs tallied 5 e’s.
As for offense, pedestrian is putting it mildly. Totals for the 3 games: 32 k’s and15 hits (7 of which were by either Philip or Rutschman).
Can Bailey, or anyone other than the players themselves, turn these bats around?
Host sites to be announced at NCAA.com and on social media at 5:30 p.m. PT on Sunday.
From the “Does it matter now?” file, there is this from Eggers twitter:
We still have no explanation in the press box what the call was on Zalesky’s strikeout with runners second and third and one out in B8. He was not allowed to run to first on the third strike after the ball bounced off the turf.
Sure seemed strange that he didn’t run that one out, but Philip’s slow start on his double down the line seemed strange too. Gotta think Zalesky heard the ump cry “foul”.
The Beavers have lost eight of their last 13 games heading into the postseason, after today’s shutout Bailey said this (per the GT),
Season’s pretty much over; stick a fork in it.
The season was over when Casey left.
Bailey sucks.
Why are you such a douchey prick? This team lost 3 position players to the 1st round last year. Two of their top arms have been injured all year. All that and they are still in position to host which means they are a top 16 team.
I get tired of all of the bitching. Yes the beavs have had a rough year, anybody that knows anything about baseball understands that it doesn’t take much to get out of your groove… that isn’t a coaching issue… you don’t just face plant after a coaching change over the course of a few months…, they just aren’t as good this year… if you believe that it is coaching than you must believe that Pat Casey would make any team in the PAC 12 a national champion in one year… which is just straight BS
Greg Street is umping the NCState/GATech game and making atrocious calls once again.
I’m thinking any “review process” for umpires in the NCAA has no disciplinary aspect to it.
Here’s a Jack that was connected to Oregon State.
https://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/obituaries/jack-charles-rainey/article_29e75205-3f72-5f09-9b2e-0b30fa549fd3.html
Pretty sure our Jack is a Navy vet. Not Marines Corp
The Jack listed above was an asst. hoops coach at OSU also.
Jack is a Navy vet.
Maybe Jack is just on a well deserved Summer vacation? Either way here’s to you bud. Go Beavs
#limpingintothepostseason.
Wow. The question is coaching vs talent?
This team is a team in transition just as the 2007 and 2016 teams were.
I am still amazed at some of the reactions on this site. You guys have raised Pat Casey to god status. Teams aren’t going to be the #1 seed every year.
And to answer the coaching vs. talent question. It is most likely talent. This team just doesn’t have the talent other OSU teams have had.
I absolutely want Pat Casey back because he is Pat Casey but I don’t think they’d be that much better with Casey. I just don’t.
I think we have to ask ourselves if Casey was the coach this year would the team have hit better? Some badly needed veterans have regressed and some of the younger players never developed consistency. Does fear make someone hit better or not take called third strikes? I don’t know. This team seems somewhat similiar to the team that didn’t make the tournament in 2016. I don’t rememver us getting all over Casey’s shit back then, we were mostly on Meggs.
I don’t disagree but the only honest answer to that question is “I don’t know”
It is just as likely to be coaching or loss of protection in the line up.
Remember the 2007 team went 4-8 in May and 11-1 in June.
The 2014 team went 11-4 in May, lost in the regionals in June
Anyone claiming they know what will happen in the tournament is guessing.
It’s coaching. The Bailey quotes and his philosophy prove that.
These players would be afraid of Casey and perform for him. Bailey is Riley. When I say “afraid” I don’t mean in the GA way of abuse, but more they’d feel Casey’s intensity and know there would be repercussions (playing time, etc) for their performance. These guys don’t seem to care about any of that and have a blase attitude. That’s a top down problem.
Have you ever even hit off a tee? anyone who’s ever been in a batters box knows when your head is filled with negative thoughts you aren’t going to hit shit.
Of course I’m arguing with a complete idiot who’s probably never swung a bat and will argue anything. I played for some of these coaches you claim to know. Bailey is nothing like Riley.
Way beyond hitting off a tee.
I doubt you played for anyone, but if that is true it just reinforces your bias.
Uh oh… someone’s losing their composure
Well you claim I’m “biased” towards Casey, Riley, and Bailey. I didn’t play for all 3 like Dallas Buck did.
And if you were so good at baseball why can’t you recognize and appreciate talent? Casey is/was the best coach in the country. Riley has his faults but his program was much more successful than what we’ve seen since.
“Riley has his faults but his program was much more successful than what we’ve seen since.”
It’s a fools errand to compare Riley to “what we’ve seen since”. The standard should relate more to what can realistically be achieved by a HC, period. Alertness to the real-time game situation, willingness to support his own players when dirty hits occur, the list goes on. Riley, especially for the last several years, did not measure up.
As for raising Pat Casey to God Status, I’ve already posted a reminder of the regional loss to the Anteaters, by a Casey coached team which BTW lost 2 of 3 to SC to close out the season in 2014.
And, have you seen any other site refer to Casey’s “warts”?
Whether angry ever hit off a T is irrelevant, he has a (while Not God Like) pretty good record analyzing coaches and, especially, football players. It’s all a discussion of opinions here anyway.
GO BEAVS!
damn that casey, lost to a team who went on to win a Super and win a game in the World Series that year too.
Butt buddy ^
Tell us the stories about you and Casey in the shower after games.
There’s that angry we all know. Deflect and make stupid comments when anyone might have a point
Baseball is not football… Sounds like some people can’t decipher the difference
Non sequitur
The Tecolotes fell 6-1 Saturday:
I just read an article regarding OSU and potential commit Sasha Goforth, 5-star one of the top ranked players in the country from Arky. Apparently, she had narrowed her decision to Arky and OSU but Arky just lost their coach so the article suggested that OSU might have the inside track. She would be a significant talent for the Beavs if Rueck can pull it off especially taking a player of that caliber out her own backyard. Sasha, goforth and become a Beaver.
The coach didn’t leave. He is the guy from U Dub.
They very recently lost their assistant coach (Lacey Goldwire) to Tennessee and she was one of the lead recruiters for Ms. Goforth. But I doubt that makes a big difference in her decision.
Gotcha. Let’s hope in this case it does.
High expectations are a good problem to have. UofO baseball is a perfect example of what happens when apathy sets in.
You know all this bitching about the state of our program after one down season reminds me a lot of certain fans that like to say “natty”… y’all are acting no different than them and you are the same ones that bitch about duck fans.
Yeah, good Beav fans just suck it up and accept poor performance.
I didn’t say just suck it up… You act like they laid an egg this year… I am sorry but there are two top 5 teams in the PAC 12… Oregon State isn’t one of them but for all the injuries this season, I’d say they had a pretty good year… With how tough the PAC 12 is this year this is far from a poor performance… quit trying to justify your delusions
Bailey is a poor leader. You can blame injuries and try to justify your delusions that he’s not.
Your right Angry… Apparently we need a knowledgeable great leader like you… you’d solve the hitting struggles in one day… just with your pure leadership they would be smashing the ball.. since hitting has so much to do with leadership, give me a break… you can’t be serious
Why smash the ball when you can put pressure on the defense by calling hit and runs, sac bunts, and steals?
The inability to do those things reveals weakness at the coaching level. The team has talent.
I have a hard time saying Bailey is a poor leader. A poor leader could not have Bailey’s record at George Fox (353-158, National COY in ’04, Eight times named NW Conf COY).
We have a very small sample of Bailey as HC at this level. Given that, are there differences between his situation at G. Fox and now? It is hard to believe he had better assistants at GF, maybe the caliber of athletes is part of the answer? Do those players respond better to his approach?
Regardless, there is a basic approach to these discussions which may be causing confusion (and some apparent animosity): Some here don’t recognize that the standard being used to define “good coach”, “good performance” is not always a comparison to a specific individual (ex: Casey, Riley) but to a standard. That standard, it seems to me, is a level of performance which (in the mind of the writer) is reasonably achievable.
It does seem reasonably achievable that Bailey’s team should have seen improvement by at least some of the veterans who’ve been mentioned here.
Speaking of veterans, pause a moment, please, to reflect on the sacrifices made by many. Nowadays so many do not even know a service member, your interest in hearing the story of a vet you may encounter will brighten their day…..and yours.
As ever, GO BEAVS
Bailey is a poor leader. You can blame injuries and try to justify you delusions that he’s not all you want.
Because he fears Casey isn’t coming back and wants to nip the rejection in the bud.
Record wise this team finished about as expected. However, you can’t deny there was a lack of player development and an inability to manufacture runs. Preston Jones and Tyler Malone should have developed into top 10 round draft picks this year. Both regressed along with Claunch and Taylor. Casey teams always put pressure on the defense. I saw very few successful sac bunts or hit and runs this year. Regardless of the talent level this year the fundamentals weren’t there.
Ding ding.
It was a totally different style. Passive.
Don’t you think some of that responsibility lies with the players too? As a coach you can tell or teach a player anything it’s his responsibility to work on it… not saying that the coaching has been stellar, but this drop off is not all on the coaching… the answer lies in between… people always try to peg one thing as the reason for struggles but it’s usually more than just that one thing
You pick and choose things to prove yourself right… you wanna hang your hat on Preston Jones? He never looked like a star player anyway. That facts are the Beavs are a top 16 team. Does that happen with no leadership? Our roster apparently full of guys underperforming and no leadership yet we’re hosting…
Agree with the Rev. They seemed to lose some of the killer swag as the year progressed. Even with the defensive foibles in Surprise, they had a swag of F you, we are the National Champions.
The guys that should have been bell cows were not. I thought they would finish third, but they were
arguably playing worse as the year progressed.and that is the concern.
“they were arguably playing worse as the year progressed.and that is the concern.”
Spot on! The rodent with Multiple Personality Disorder scores………again!
Chuck,valid point.
Angry @ Angry – Preston Jones has the tools to play professional baseball. I believe he’s more gifted than Steven Kwan. If I’m picking on him, it’s because I believe he has the ability to do more. Jones was a stud athlete in high school and his brother is playing pro ball. He’s shown flashes of his
potential the last 2 seasons but something is missing this year. I think it’s the competitive edge/attitude that Casey inspired in his players. So I guess I disagree with you and think he should have been a star player this season.
You’re in good company, Rev. Jim Wilson always spoke of Preston’s big league potential.
Potential, yeah he was plenty of god given tools. He hasn’t put them all together yet and that can’t be all on Bails. That’s ridiculous
Or, act entitled and spoiled like duck fans. Let’s face it, expectations for this year’s team were too unrealistic after replacing 7 position players and losing some top pitching along the way. Certainly it has been disappointing, but I’ll take a disappointing season on the heels of winning the National Championship in 2018 and at least qualifying for the post season. From what I understand, there’s a pretty strong class coming in next season too. This team will be back in the CWS and it will be sooner than later especially when Casey returns to the Beavers.
Regional sites announced, Beavs WILL host.
Lundeberg was certain, even if others were sweating!
Bob’s lucky, he doesn’t have to walk to Newport bare foot.
damn straight!
either a foolish bet or a sign of self confidence!
RIP Bart Starr. My childhood sports hero and reason I became a Packer fan. Definition of class and poise under pressure. This actually makes me very sad.
OOB, I’ve read many of your posts and what has become evident to me is what a solid person you are. I respect how you stay above the mud and the muck while still getting your point across. You are a great Beaver. Cheers!
https://mobile.twitter.com/bigtennetwork/status/1132724365366353922?ref_url=https%3a%2f%2ftwitter.com%2f Lol
Nice, and then he follows it up by flipping the bird as he walks away from the kid
Beavgopher you should find this *fan* and have a talk with him
Unrealistic expectations……
I can be as critical as anyone here. But some of you need step back and look at the last 15 years of Oregon St baseball for what it has been. What Pat Casey built. It took him 10 years to get a team to Omaha. Be appreciative of that. Enjoy this success. It’s not going to last forever. Even if Casey does comeback for next season.
Look at ASU. USC. Stanford. How many titles have they won? In the last 20 years????
No one is saying to accept mediocrity.
For the record, I am concerned about the regression of a handful of players this year. Especially with hitting. Is that a coaching issue or because of the loss of better hitters from last year that we’re able to protect in the lineup? Again, it’s possible we got spoiled. Last years team I believe was the best hitting team we’ve ever witnessed in Corvallis. This years team is Jekyll and Hyde.
But the team ERA is still there. That will keep them in games.
I said it over a month ago. This is a regional team. Could be a super regional team. They met my expectations. But I don’t expect a return trip to Omaha.
And yes, injuries are a factor. Not an excuse, angry. See last years Corvallis regional and ask LSU.
Valid points and I agree that the chance for a return to Omaha went out the window when Abel picked up that suitcase. As far as nothing lasting forever, those downturns followed the loss of a legendary coach. PC is young enough for another 8-10 year run if he wants to.
I think that is cause of my and most Beav fans angst. We finally have a self sustaining championship sports program and then the coach pulls the plug. It is the ultimate Luck O da Beavs moment.
OT. Big story in my neck of the woods. I guess you can be too successful. MIAC boots out St. Thomas, a founding member.
Scott Van Pelt chimes in…
https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/1131789610751803393
We are the #16 seed matched up with the UCLA regional.
Both teams from Omaha are in the LA and Corvo regionals.
Wouldn’t it be something if UNO and Creighton both made it to the supers?
Uh….no.
Beavos likely to go 1-2 anyways
Not a bad draw for first round. Weather looks good. Maybe they jell and do 2006 again?
If I was Adley on June 2nd I would check into a nice hotel, with twenty-four hour room service, handicapped equipped bathroom for added safety, full cable access and a pile of reading. Do not leave that room until the multi-million dollar check from Baltimore clears the bank on or about June 10th.
PS: On a side note. We are acquainted with Adley’s parent. They named him Adley in the hope that the nickname “Ad” would stick in honor of his grandfather the legendary LInfield coach and great mentor to hundreds of young men. Unfortunately granddad, who was born in 1931, was given the name Adolph. Some guy in Germany sort of ruined that name back in the 40’s.
Way too many supers matching conference rivals.
Seeding to 16 was always a bad idea and this is one of the major reasons why.
Cincy Bearcats hit the shit out of the ball in their conference tourney, not sure how that translates against Beaver pitching, but 22 runs against UConn is impressive nonetheless. Especially in a conference championship game.
Our guy Lundeberg isn’t worried, tweets this about the three teams coming to Corvallis:
“All three teams are hot, but not a lot of quality wins there. OSU has enough pitching to get through unscathed
I really want to stop looking ahead to UCLA, but the Creighton/Michigan/Cincinnati combo just isn’t that scary. Still surprised that OSU got an easier regional draw than several higher-ranked hosts, including Stanford and Mississippi State.”
No word on whether Bob will walk barefoot somewhere if he is wrong!
Warren Washington to Nevada.
Washington had a realistic chance to be a starter his junior season and on the surface it would appear that he was in line for more than eight minutes a game this season. Now he’s going to sit out a season in the Mountain West?
Musselma…er…Alford…
The only thing that makes sense here is Washington didn’t like the culture of the OSU program. Played a decent amount in important moments as a true freshman. Had more playing time coming if he earned it next season.
When will Ethan announce he is coming back….
Eggers up with two articles worth your time; one on Bailey and the other Yeski and pitching injuries.
Once again, Eggers calls out Barnes, some excerpts:
,,,So it appears that if Casey opts not to return to coach the Beavers, Bailey is out. Otherwise, why would there be a need for a “search”?
Bailey is handling the situation with class. He says he has not spoken about the situation with either Barnes — hard to believe — or Casey…
(Bailey says) “It’s great to win games, but the development of men is why both Pat and I are in the coaching business.”
It’s also why Barnes should show Bailey a little more respect.
https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/12-sports/429475-337412-oregon-state-pitching-deals-with-injuries
https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/12-sports/429476-337409-despite-uncertainties-osus-bailey-manages
The baseball team got exactly what they earned. The seeding is correct after losing the series to USC.
The offense will hold back this team from any significant postseason run. It’s unfair to compare the team to last year’s because of talent. BUT the floor last year for any regular was Armstrong at .262. This year, there are 9 guys who have seen a good amount of playing time hitting below that.
I didn’t believe it myself but when I checked the facts, this year’s pitching staff is better than last years even with all of the injuries. Credit to Yeskie for managing all of the injuries that popped up this year.
So for them to advance here’s the things that need to go right,
1. Pitching needs to keep form. If Eisert returns, that’s a huge help.
2. Bottom of the lineup guys need to grind out at bats and get on base anyway they can when the lineup turns over.
3. It would help if lower seeds upset higher seeds on the other side of the brackets. If Beavs advance to Supers, they’ve never made it to Omaha going on the road.
If a team needs more than a few miracles to contend, then it’s not looking good. It’s going to be a tough regional. Then an even tougher super. Don’t really need to think beyond that.
Always appreciate your input and analysis, Bill.
A couple comments:
1) “If Eisert returns, that’s a huge help”……only if he shows very little rust.
2) Along with the pitching stats being better than last year, some will be surprised to know that the conference W/L record this year is better than last (by 1 game).
The 2014 team had momentum and lost, the 2018 group had mo and won. This team has no momentum and needs to generate some from the very first regional game.
My outlook is a lot closer to yours, Bill, than to that of Lundeberg as mentioned above. I think he is smart not to make one of his “barefoot” bets on this.
Re: Casey
If he hasn’t made up his mind yet, I don’t think he’s coming back.
I’m really not sure what to do with Bailey but I lean toward a new HC. The negatives of keeping Bailey on outweigh the positives.
Negatives – the long term health of the program due to his age, his ability to motivate players/regression of player development, recruiting a much younger generation,
Positives – managed a really crappy situation where his job was in question the whole year, managed to keep winning in spite of all the lost talent.
The big thing for me is the age. He’s not going to coach for a long time. A few more years and that’s it. I would make the change now while the program is still humming along instead of chancing a slow decline of the program. Of course, could always promote Yeskie. He’s going to be a top candidate this offseason. And if Yeskie gets a HC job somewhere else, then even more reason to bring in a new staff.
This would bring some turmoil to the current staff as they are all ex players.
So the big question would be, who do you bring in? Luckily the job will be the hottest one in the country so nearly everyone will take Barnes’s call. I really don’t know. I like the TCU coach a lot. Had success wherever he’s been. Snuck his team into the tourney this year.
BA has a list of potential guys. They speculate Bailey will get the job if Casey doesn’t return.
But as always, the future coach should be Mitch Canham. However, he’s on track for a big league job in the next several years.
I believe Casey will come back so I’m going to say when that happens, how does that affect the 2 paid assistant coaches? Does Bailey retire then, or someone else would then most likely leave instead of going back to unpaid.
I’m guessing Casey hasn’t announced anything right now because of the timing. Just because Casey hasn’t announced anything doesn’t mean his mind isn’t made up. I heard this weekend he is not very pleased with how the team has been going about their season. I agree with him but that doesn’t mean he is coming back. I think we all feel there have been some underachieving elements this year.
@Bill, good info on the pitching this year. It feels like the staff has taken a step back but they have kept the up and down offense within striking distance. If the offense had a few more timely hits, well, we know how that can change a record from years past.
Speaking to Yeskie at the autograph signing during football season at Truax, I don’t see Yeskie leaving. He has had his chances. Now that might be different if he wants the head coaching job at OSU and is passed over. I have confidence not in Barnes, but in Casey making sure the right person is the head coach next year whether it’s him, Yeskie, or Bailey. Casey won’t let Barnes do something dumb and lose out on Yeskie if he is the man for the job.
Maybe Casey is waiting to announce he will come back only if Barnes will leave?! I know who Beaver Nation would support!
Yeskie also got a raise last year when he had the chance to leave so of course he will be a popular candidate again this summer but he has already proven he wants to stay with the Beavs.
I’ve got to wonder if Yeskie’s stock has soured with the rash of arm injuries. Not pointing fingered at anyone but I’m sure it will be used against him in recruiting.
Fingers not fingered. That’s not a good look coming from a fake reverend.
I still buy into the theory this was just a plan to get Bailey a pay bump before he retires as a thank you for everything he’s done for the program. Yeskie got the big raise last year and the athletic department didnt have the funds to also give Bailey a big bump. This plan allowed Casey to get one of his friends paid before he heads off into the sunset. Then Casey comes back and resumes control of the program while Bailey gets a more comfortable retirement.
I read that Casey has, at minimum, a 10 day grace period even after his final deadline passes.
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2018/09/provision_in_pat_caseys_revise.html
Or maybe I misread how that 10 day period gets applied. Oh well, I need sleep
Here is the actual contract language regarding reassignment, the 10 day period applies only if the University is looking for a new HC prior to June 1. Since we are now within 10 days of June 1, that consideration is mute.
Really, though, until a new HC is named (or negotiations with a prospective new HC are in a very advanced stage) it is hard to imagine even Barnes refusing to reinstate Casey if Casey says he wants the job.
If we go back in time a little, thinking back to when Casey’s “retirement” was announced, the whole thing felt like a charade. Casey didn’t want to have his retirement announced. Barnes is the one who made it happen. In my opinion, he needed to make everything look legitimate and like a late decision by Casey to avoid the need for a late season coaching search.
That way, Bailey could assume the interim role immediately, without our AD needing to go through the whole interview process/minority candidate consideration steps/etc…
Casey didn’t want the attention of a retirement, probably because he wasn’t actually retiring. I still think the whole thing was orchestrated to get Bailey a nice raise with minimal effort on the ADs part. And now that he has a nice bonus, Bailey can retire and Casey can return. Then Jenkins moves up into the assistant role Bailey held in the past.
The June 1st deadline was just poor planning on everybody’s part. Now, Casey needs to make his intentions known possibly during the Beavs postseason run (or after, if they lose their first 2 games by Saturday afternoon). Maybe Casey knew they wouldn’t make it past Saturday? ouch
NiceBeav I appreciate all your recruiting work….. I can assure you your theory is soooooo far off
Not my theory, but I still think it has legs.
A@A had a nice, hot shower last night.
Go after the ex-Beav now coach of UCSB. He is young, a proven winner, and tends to do more with less. He was a big reason how Oregon was able to become a decent pitching program in 2013, etc. His team upset Louisville in 2015 with a walk-off grand slam. Not sure if he would want to leave Santa Barbara, nice weather, etc, but if he wants a step up in facilities and pedigree….he’d be the man.
http://www.ucsbgauchos.com/sports/m-basebl/coaches/Andrew_Checketts?view=bio
Sorry, to clarify, beat Louisville to get to the CWS.
I completely agree. We have to move on from Casey at some point.
After he wins three more CWS’s it will be time.
Not sure if this has been mentioned above yet but Tres Tinkle returning for last year, pulled his name from NBA Draft. Ethan must decide by tomorrow. So what are the expectations now?
Kerry Eggers had an tweet about Tres returning a few days ago, and in it he pretty matter of factly claimed Ethan will be coming back too. It read more like fact based reporting rather than Eggers’ personal opinion.
https://twitter.com/kerryeggers/status/1132172797894045696?s=19
“So what are the expectations now?”
More random injuries, at least for Tres, sorry to say.
Broken feet for everyone. It’s the Nike way.
Horton is gone https://mobile.twitter.com/KendallRogers/status/1133495251870658563
How soon till Phil Knight tries to poach Casey? :)
Hopefully they hire someone on par with their softball coach that had half the team transfer out.
Now?!? The Ol’ Jock Sniffer desperately wants a NC before he goes into his suspended animation chamber…
Let’s just hope there’s no coach swapping…I like the UCSB coach linked above if Casey won’t return.
One can already feel his gravitational pull moving away from us.
I hope they don’t make a run at Yeskie.
https://mobile.twitter.com/aaronfitt/status/1133497726421884928
Conforto with a grand slam
https://mobile.twitter.com/sn_mlb/status/1133589911834189824
Oh my God you guys this duck fan was walking with his family and so I put on my Benny the beaver mascot replica head and ran up to them and was like hahahaha you guys fired that fat fuck so much for winning nattys in baseball and he was like… what? And I was like like that’s RIGHT mother fucker! Best college town in the pac 12 and our baseball team won the national championship! And his wife was all are you seriously saying that in front of our kids right now? And I was like that’s right someones gotta teach these kids the right direction in life! And the husband just said ‘please go away’ lol he had no response because he knew I was right about everything! Even the one kid started crying it was great! You guys would’ve loved it
cool story, bro
I’ll echo the husband: please go away.
This guy will likely choose Oregon State tonight.
https://twitter.com/cooperdarling55/status/1133812659000709120?s=19
https://247sports.com/Player/Cooper-Darling-46084385/
Is that a player or a coach? He looks 50.
LDS too, so he could end up being a mission guy anyway
Why do we offer the LDS kids? Are we hoping they don’t go on their mission? Seems like a waste of time and effort.
For dumb reasons, like artificially boosting your artificial class ranking. Unfortunately its a game OSU needs to engage in. Having the lowest ranked team in the conference year after year looks pretty bad.
This kid is from Salem originally and wants to play for OSU, so recruiting him probably didnt take much effort. And he is already ranked as a 3* guy who will only go up between now and signing day.
And there’s the chance he still shows up after mission. So in that regard it would be worth it to at least try.
I don’t have numbers nor do a pay a whole ton of attention to this but it always seems like these mission kids end up at BYU or Utah St. Do we ever actually keep any of these kids once they get back from their missions?
The only one I recall is Riley Sharp. He just came back last year and played 4 games to preserve his RS. Haven’t heard much about him this spring but our LBs are deep.
He’ll look 60 when he returns.
He’ll fit right in at BYU.
Fyi, he announced his verbal to OSU tonight.
4th 2020 player so far.
Still no word if he is or is not heading out on his mission after HS.
I went on a mission this evening. To drink beer with a U of M classmate. Mission accomplished.
Did you score?
No…
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/f812af11-37a0-4550-a859-ae123113b692
Sorry BG…. But to qualify as mission you would need to do it for two years, wearing a white shirt, necktie and name badge, while not falling off your bike the entire time. Nice try.
@nicebeaver, is that the commitment you knew about for a bit that you mentioned on Twitter? Or is there another one on the way…..
Different guy actually. There’s a plug and play transfer on defense too. Might take a couple of weeks before we learn anything.
Word is he will do his mission after college, good news for us.
Read some scuttlebutt on PO that he’s a post college mission kid. That would be a nice get if true
Just to backup AKBeaver, I asked mama machado if he is going on lds mission right after high school and she responded with he is not.
Didn’t know he had OR roots and is a Beav fan. This makes more sense. This might help him stay committed to OSU after his mission. Appreciate the insight.
https://apple.news/AoxkqZzV6TBSczECFullEig Jordan poyer
That’s a hell of a long ways from Astoria, Oregon. Dating for years? I hope not too many years, did I read the article correctly, she’s still just 21 years old?
Jordan has lived quite the life after OSU…yeah she had his kid at 19 I think.
Dan Hubbs out at USC after 7 seasons
I guess the golden spikes award is partial weight towards a Fan Vote (who knew), you can vote 25 per day.
you can vote here, scroll down and click on Adley’s picture.
http://www.usabaseball.com/golden-spikes-award
Is there going to be a postseason baseball thread?
Yes it’s up.
That’s what he said.
Sounds like the general feeling around the football team regarding football recruiting is next week hopefully we get one more on board. Will try to learn a little more between now and then, but sounds optimistic we’ll add another 2020 guy soon.
W hy hasn’t Casey stepped out from behind Barnes and made a statement about this whole deal?