18.Nov.2016 OSU @ Nevada & Recruiting

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Some talk about Hodgins committing to OSU today and the talk of Luton, so that’s all fair game, along with the hoops game tonight at 7.

I’m encouraged by the Luton news. Maybe something finally clicked for him.

Go Beavs

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  • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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    First time first. Got to be a quick Beaver.

    Is Thompson playing tonight?

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    I’m remaining neutral on the Hodgins stuff till he actually amnoinces something ( and signs in december)
    Beavs have been Charlie Brown far too long. Seen this scenario before.

  • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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    Game’s on espntres. Question of the night, will anyone show an interest or ability in running the offense?

    • angry angry says:
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      The backcourt performance vs Lamar was the worst I’ve ever seen in my life.

      • marcodg marcodg says:
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        It ranks up (down?) there for me too, although once while coaching my son’s 3rd grade team, I had 3 kids who could dribble. One game all 3 were gone on vacation. I let the other kids play point guard for 1/2 a quarter each. I also had to ask the other coach not to play defense outside the 3 point line. That was pretty bad too.

  • wannabeav says:
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    If Luton turns out to be a good QB prospect, combined with a defense that will be both more experienced and deeper next year, there’s no reason to think that team can’t win 6 or more games.

  • marcodg marcodg says:
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    Will Luton come in with 4 years to play 3?

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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      Luton played a year at Idaho and then a year of JUCO, so I think he’s either a 3 x 2 or a 2 x 2

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Somebody messaged me to say Angie is teasing a potential visitor this weekend who is committed elsewhere. Curious if it’s the same guy I alluded to ealier in the week?
    http://angrybeavs.com/football/12555#comment-236299

    Or maybe this just means Angie still reads Angrybeavs?

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Somebody messaged me to say Angie is teasing a potential visitor this weekend who is committed elsewhere. Curious if it’s the same guy I alluded to ealier in the week?

    http://angrybeavs.com/football/12555#comment-236299

    Or maybe this just means Angie still reads Angrybeavs?

    • Homefry Homefry says:
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      Who’s teasin who? In the words of the late, great Kevin Meaney, “THAT’S NOT RIGHT!”

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Luton’s improvement and commitment might be providing some recruiting synergy and maybe influencing a commitment like Hodgkins?

    Hoops related, several threads ago Jack posted a link to a pic of the Gill upgrades. The court was set for volleyball game and there was I think a protective black mat or some layer to protect the bball court? Anyway, I thought the black looked great and would make a classy looking basketball court. Not gimmicky and obnoxious like BSU smurf turf, but just really classy with the seat upgrades and seat colors going in Gill.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    So if the Beavs end up with Hodgins, that could likely mean we get Charles Moku Watson. Currently we have 19 commits. 1 is Mission bound, so 18 really.
    Add a Hodgins and Watson amd we’d be at 20 scholarships.
    Then, we would have 5 spots remaining for guys like Calvin, Evans, Nixon, and a couple of guys currently committed elsewhere. I think that would be best case scenario for us at this point. Would also mean a few guys would have to transfer or medically retire to open up enough spots to create 25.(which i fully expect)

    There’s also potential for some of our current commits to flip elsewhere, so those last remaining spots will be an interesting things to watch.

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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      Then you have to start looking at the WR position.

      Next year we have:
      Villamin-SR
      Jarmon-SR
      Hawkins-SR
      Lucas-JR
      Timmay-JR
      Collins-JR
      Sykes-JR (juco commit)
      Collins-JR
      Bradford-SO
      Flemmings-(2017 commit)
      Asemota-(2017 commit)
      Taylor-(2017 commit)
      Quantino Allen(2017 commit)(listed as a WR on some sites, but I could see him playing defense)
      Hodgins (potential 2017 commit-early enrollee)
      Calvin(potential 2017 commit)

      Some people say that we have too many WRs in this class to take on any more (like a Calvin)
      I disagree. Hodgins being an early enrollee could fill Tyson Penn’s vacant spot from last year, and he would play as a true freshman.
      Calvin would be a True Freshman type player
      Flemmings/Asemota/Taylor are all Redshirt candidates, especially if Taylor’s injury lingers.

      That would give us 3 seniors, 5 juniors, 1 sophomore, 2 True Frosh, 3 RS frosh, plus several Non-scholarship players.
      Add the potential for 1 or more of our Seniors to Grad Transfer, and we have no idea what Collin’s illness means to the team.

      I think a haul of 5-6 WR in this class helps balance the numbers out.

      • BlkOrange says:
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        Don’t be surprised if one (and possibly two) WR’s transfer.

      • angry angry says:
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        And hopefully out of all of those WRs just one of them can catch.

        • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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          The one that can catch will be the one who can’t stay healthy. Luck o…..

  • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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    Mr. Moran tweeted that little Stevie is “doubtful”.

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    WBB livestreaming now:

    http://pac-12.com/live/oregon-state-university-2

    • angry angry says:
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      Very odd watching this since the PA announcer and crowd are louder than the broadcaster.

  • mckalk says:
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    Another brutal start. Did Stacy turn the ball over like this at JC?

  • mckalk says:
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    Playing Tres Tinkle at guard now…..desparate times, desparate measures?

  • angry angry says:
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    When is Thompson due back? Until he’s back the offense is going to struggle.

    Replacing Stacy with Thompson will be nice.

    • mckalk says:
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      I did not see anything about his status other than doubtbul as mentioned above.. Seems like it’s more than a “hotspot” if you miss three games. Have these idiot announcers even acknowledged that he’s out? Also, they won’t beat Tulsa on the road either. 2-3 after 5 games is likely.

    • osu2008 says:
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      Agree. I think they got desperate getting Stacy because of Derrick Bruce leaving. Wish Bruce had gotten his shit together.

  • mckalk says:
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    Nevada 22-10. Oliver is in double figures already!

  • angry angry says:
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    So the football team needs a QB and the basketball team needs a PG. Just fantastic.
    Please tell me the baseball team has some pitchers…

    • Angry@angry says:
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      No they have Gabe Clark playing first, Dallas Buck is an unheard of recruit, and Casey’s playing small ball. Better just stay away

  • angry angry says:
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    This team is worse than WT’s 1st year with all those walk-ons. Those guys were better somehow. McQuaflin’ is a turnover machine and doesn’t play any D. He’s Roberto Nelson part 2. Stacy is a big recruiting miss — could set them back a while.

  • mckalk says:
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    Shit, this is shades of the CR era with not defending the three. I hope STj’s injury is truly not serious and that Kone is a stud or this team is in trouble.

    • scotty says:
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      CR… What’s this “CR era” you speak of? I thought our last coach was Ralph Miller 🙂

      • mckalk says:
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        That’s a nice thought, but that damn 26 year stretch of no NCAA’s seems to indicate otherwise.

        • scotty says:
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          I did have this weird dream we hired the president’s brother in law as our basketball coach lol

    • osu2008 says:
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      Tinkle said Kone would have started from Day 1 if he hadn’t been hurt. He’s a high-energy level guy. With the losses they had from graduation, etc. I figured this would have been a rebuilding year. I think it’s unfair to compare this team to any of Robinson’s teams. They have talent and coaching, just little depth and experience.

  • Afghanbeav Afghanbeav says:
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    This team is a hot mess. I’m terrible at basketball, and even I know not to pass across multiple lanes like that…

  • scotty says:
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    Glad this isn’t on TV!

  • mckalk says:
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    I can’t believe what i just saw. Who was that? He took a three quarter court shot with 7 seconds on the clock and Nevada gets the ball back and hits a three. WTF????

    Bad guys 48-25. Would be Beava Cam Oliver 20 points.

    Edit: It was Stacy who shot the ball from 75 feet away with 7 seconds still on the clock.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    This is fucking scary. What the hell happened with playing D?

  • mckalk says:
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    It’s nice to see that Stacy is following Duvivier’s fine Beav tradition of somehow missing badly two feet from the basket. Having a guard who can’t make layups is invaluable.

    • osu2008 says:
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      Malcolm is better than Stacy. Would not be surprised to see him back next year and that is not wishful thinking.

  • scotty says:
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    Gary Andersen and Wayne Tinkle still make me feel way better than Mike Riley and Craig Robinson did in their later years here. At least there’s that.

  • mckalk says:
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    Nevada up 65-34.

  • scotty says:
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    Jon Warren says Nevada won the CBI last year. No wonder we can’t hang with these juggernauts!

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    nobody passes the ball

    • mckalk says:
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      I know it’s just one game (well kind of two if you can’t Lamar), but this is awful basketball. No perceptible offense and lost on defense. It will be interesting to see how much getting STj back improves the team. He isn’t really a defensive juggernaut.

  • mckalk says:
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    Remind me again why Cameron Oliver didn’t want to stay a Beaver????

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      No slots and no blackjack in Corvallis?

    • Bill says:
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      Cr got fired.

    • osu2008 says:
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      I think Oliver also had grade issues. I also remember Oliver and Manderson not being totally on board with what Tinkle expected from them. It may not seem like it now, but OSU lucked out not getting either one of those guys. Chai Baker was the biggest loss in that class… Good kid and good leader.

  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    Coach Tinkle points to his team’s youth and inexperience. But that doesn’t excuse or explain what we are seeing tonight against Nevada: failure to get back on defense; failure to beat your man down the floor on offense; a general lack of toughness and hustle. Selfish play.

    More evidence that there may be a chemistry problem developing with this group?

    • mckalk says:
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      I think it’s a “no GP-2” problem right now. I don’t see a leader.

    • osu2008 says:
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      These guys are very close. No chemistry problems. Have to get Thompson Jr. healthy and sit Stacy. I think they got him primarily for his defense, but it’s taking him time to get the plays down. He is a liability on offense. Tinkle does have a complex defensive scheme with lots of switching. Not much communication on the court and that has to change.

      • mckalk says:
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        It’s only five games in, but I’m not seeing any “wow factor” with Stacy’s defense and he is a horror show on offense so far. In general, they don’t seem to be running any motion or set plays. Just some screens and a lot of one on one off the dribble. This ain’t the NBA!

  • Pummel Course says:
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    LOL Beavers are Tinkle Trash! SOOO BAD OMG ROTFLMAO!!! I can’t believe you people!

  • Theboneyard says:
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    Hodgins to Osu!

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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      Start the one more class to get eligible countdown. It’s never this easy for a rodent.

      • angry angry says:
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        Exactly, great news, so he must be a NQ.

        • Afghanbeav Afghanbeav says:
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          I thought he was an early enrollee? Already cleared and eligible?

          • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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            Yes, early enrollee, should actually count against our 2016 class numbers (thank you, Tyson Penn?)
            Forgot to mention that ealier. Keeps another slot open to sign a 2017 guy.

            I actually think Calvin will be coming here too.

          • ObjCritic says:
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            Read he’ll enroll in January, take part in spring ball. He also says OSU “has some good QBs coming in.” Not a slam on the current crop, but he must like what he sees/is being told about Moran, Luton, Willard?

            Spring ball…hard to believe there’s but a week left to the season…

          • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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            He played 7 on 7 with Willard, they must have a pretty good relationship. I wonder how much that factored in?
            Nicebeaver didn’t Hodgins decommited from Washington state around the same time Willard commited here? Or is my time line off?

          • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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            His decomitment from WSU coincided with when he recieved his Oregon offer which was in August.

            He comitted to WSU in May, about a week before we landed Willard, so I dont think Willard alone caused him to decommit.
            I really think OSU just out-recruited Oregon and Nebraska and were all in on him. They were the 2nd team to offer him (SJSU barely beat them to it )
            I also think having Baldwin on staff still is key. Had heard when Baldwin got demoted, that really caused some uncertainty about OSU. Also, helps to have a certain female at OSU who I think recruited him here too. It was a total team effort.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            We should build an airport before he notices.

          • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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            So all good. Great job by GA if it holds.

          • angry angry says:
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            . Also, helps to have a certain female at OSU who I think recruited him here too

            Mamma Machado?

          • angry angry says:
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            It was a joke.

          • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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            Haha, no, not mama. That’s disgusting.
            Somebody in his age bracket.

        • ean says:
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          you are never one lacking in hysterics… must explain your Trump support.

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Need to sign a free agent guard to salvage the season. Give a finder fee and have Altman conjure one up. Plan B, let Syd W play on the men’s team. Any more Payton progeny available?

  • osu2008 says:
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    I like Plan B. Katie McWilliams isn’t too bad at the point either.

  • Hodgins All Day says:
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    4 Star Hodgins a Beav!! Yeah Baby!

    Isaiah going to ge a baller at OSU!

    • ObjCritic says:
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      Strange to see one of those player “who’d-I-pick” events go OSU’s way….at least in football.

      Maybe someday as a sign of REAL commitment, a player will don a hat or three, then remove them all and reveal a tattoo…

      • scotty says:
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        Guy reveals an OSU tattoo. Then later reveals a “Beat” on top and “Go Ducks” underneath 😛

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Another nice part to getting Isaiah Hodgins, is it puts us in good position to pick up hos brother Isaac next year. Isaac a big OL/DL all conference player. Already nearly 300lbs as a junior.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      I wouldn’t want the Hodgins’ monthly grocery bill.

      • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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        They probably view it as an investment

      • cj cj says:
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        I hear that one! My house has 4 boys between 16 & 21. Just try to keep groceries in the house!!!

        • ObjCritic says:
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          Wow, so much for saving for retirement…auto pay deduct to grocery store?

        • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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          CJ: Hang in there! From 1990 to 1997, my wife and I had 6 kids (4 boys, 2 girls). When the kids were teenagers, we were making three Winco runs per week for groceries. Nearly killed us….

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Lots and lots of milk and eggs… and toast. What is it with toast?

          • cj cj says:
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            Also have 33, 27 13, 7, & 5 year-olds.

            I finally figured out what was causing this and took care of it in ’11. Whew!

          • Jack Jack says:
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            You owe me a new keyboard.

          • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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            Holy shit, that’s a spread. Do you have grandkids older than your youngest?

          • cj cj says:
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            Yes, have a grand-daughter that’s also 13 and grandsons 11 & 8.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Wonder if in scouting Luton the staff found some other players there that might fill out the class? Any good lineman?

    https://twitter.com/VCPirateFB

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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      Ideally, if they could get some JUCO December qualifiers to sign, that would also help save space in the 2017 class for more 4 year talent.

  • angry angry says:
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    Damn, I was hoping Riley would lay an egg this week vs a so-so team.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Back whem he was a Coug commit, Hodgins was their most active recruiter, and they also picked up several commitments soon after he verbaled there. They also had a number of decomitments after he re-opened his recruitment. Hoping he can help entice some guys to OSU between now and February.

    • mexibeav mexibeav says:
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      Good to hear! Maybe he can sway Calvin into coming over!

      Any idea on the status of Isaac Garcia and Christian Wallace? They’re listed on the OSU FB roster. Did they get redshirted due to their academic status?

  • mckalk says:
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    I tried watching a little of the NU/Maryland game, but Dan Hawkins is so annoying as an analyst that had to turn it off. That guy is never going to coach again and he shouldn’t be on TV either.

  • scotty says:
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    Holding my nose and rooting for jaOSU over Sparty. Can’t have Biles limping into a Rose Bowl berth despite not having beat anyone. Best Biley wins are against Minnesota and freaking Wyoming, both in Lincoln. WE almost beat Minnesota AT Minnesota, and we stink this year!

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    “…Oliver hit eight of his first 10 field goal attempts en route to a season-high 24 points to lead the Pack to a surprisingly easy 83-58 win…”

    “…The victory gave Nevada its first win over a Power 5 school since defeating Washington 76-73 on Dec. 8, 2012 and the 25 win gave Nevada its biggest win over a Power 5 school since defeating the Oregon State Beavers by 28, 75-47, on Nov. 15., 2006…”

    “…He (Rakocevic) gave Nevada defenders more trouble than the more-heralded Tres Tinkle and front-court companion Drew Eubanks….”

    “…Another key to the lopsided win was rebounding, especially at the offensive end. Nevada had 14 offensive rebounds leading to 12 points and won the rebounding battle, 37-32….”

    • mckalk says:
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      If STj was not coming back and Kone was not out there with potential, I wouldn’t have much hope for this team. I’m not particularly impressed with Dew or Stacy at this point. GP-2 had already made a mark five games in to his junior year.

      • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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        Imo WT needs to be a hard-ass with this team w.r.t. playing D and rebounding but I’m not sure he can do it with coach’s sons on the team.

        In one of his post game interviews it seemed to me he was whining about shot selection, team ball, etc.and I understood him to say that he was “asking” the players instead of telling them.

        • mckalk says:
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          Tres definitely has skills, but he looked like a little boy out there at times against some of Nevada’s rugged inside players and the disconcerting part is they are a Mountain West team. He needs to hit some threes to open up his game also. It looks like opponents are starting to scout him on his dribble drives too.

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            Imo both Tres and Drew are playing out of control and need some “guidance” from the coaching staff. Like frequent trips to the bench for real time counseling and time to reflect on what they’ve done.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Yeah… I’ve also not understood the use of G up to now. I understand Cheikh is much improved. But we should see a steady rotation of bigs to keep them fresh and to utilize all that size.

      • mckalk says:
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        Big G looks like he can get his shot off inside almost anytime he wants, he is also a good foul shooter. Overall, he plays hard. Not sure why he was not getting any minutes in the first three games either?

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    Looks like Dantonio might punk Urbs and knock him out of the playoff again this year. 16-17 late in the 4th quarter.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Aaaaand… it’s still 16-17 due to Dantonio going for two.

      ?

      • scotty says:
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        Plenty of time left. No 62-3 this week.

        • Jack Jack says:
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          Same difference now.

          Their D is okay today, and you don’t take your chances with an OT FG contest?

  • Jack Jack says:
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    No Charles Nelson for the first half of the CW.

    • scotty says:
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      Why not?

      • Jack Jack says:
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        Targeting on a block.

        • scotty says:
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          I thought the suspension only leaks into the next game if it happens during the second half.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Apparently it is. I didn’t know that… probably because it makes zero sense.

            Making it a thirty minute major would make more sense.

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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      Since targeting happened in first half, he just misses rest of utah game, but is eligible for all of civil war.
      Had he done it after half, he’d sit 1st half of civil war

      • Jack Jack says:
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        Really?

        What a dumb format for rule enforcement. Get your shots in before the half ends, and you’re good.

  • mckalk says:
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    Surprisingly Quacks are out playing the Utes, but are still behind 7-3 late in the 2nd quarter.

    • scotty says:
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      Utes always have a head scratching clunker in them waiting to leak out.

      • mckalk says:
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        They had it at Cal earlier this season, but you’re right. They have never been a offensive powerhouse. I have a feeling that when the Beavs get better they will be somewhat like Utah.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      I don’t know why Utah isn’t just running the ball. There is zero reason to pass against Nikegon this year.

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    Looks like buckeyes will pull it out.

    • mckalk says:
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      I guess it’s better than Smilin’ Mike getting to the Rose Bowl in his second season. I hope Iowa beats down the Huskers next week and they also lose their bowl game. 9-4 seems to be Biley’s ceiling. I don’t want to see 11-2 because that will send Husker fans into a delusional stratosphere with expectations for next season. And at 11-2 you will finish the season in the Top 10 if you are in a Power 5 conference.

      • Jack Jack says:
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        If you care too much about the wrong things, you worry too much about the wrong things. We didn’t fire Riley. He ditched us just like he ditched us once before.

        He deserves our apathy.

        • mckalk says:
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          I’ve always hated Nebraska long before this and now having Riley just fuels my fire. I love to root for certain teams to lose!

          And I’m not worried or concerned. I’ve seen Riley coach!!!!

        • scotty says:
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          Riley straight-up screwed us by mailing it in at the end of his tenure. I’m happy to root against him.

  • scotty says:
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    Watching Big Ten football instead of Pac Ref flag football for a change. It’s pretty nice. Way more entertaining.

  • mckalk says:
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    Utes up 14-3 now. Dominating defensively. I’m surprised to see Carrington playing, didn’t I read that he knocked a random pedestrian down and broke his arm or was that another Duck?

    Nevermind, Utes gave up a big punt return and then Ducks scored on a trick play. 14-10

  • WFO WFO says:
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    OK fuckers, experiment time. I downloaded the the Sling app on my Kindle TV box and got the free 14 day orange package and and sports package that comes with all of the pac12 network channels and ESPN 1/2/3. It’s $25/month after the free trial. So far so good. Will advise.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    So far the cougs are setting things up so that they can coug-it. Never-the-less I’m finding the game enjoyable to watch.

  • mckalk says:
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    Utes falling apart on defense now, still up 21-17, but Quacks driving at the Utes 6 yard line.

    Ducks just scored, shit I don’t want them to have any momentum going into the Civil War.

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    Utes left plenty of time on the clock to loose this game. Their D has been getting g cut up the last few series. Gonna be a nail biter in utah.

    • mckalk says:
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      Fuck, assault an innoncent bystander one week, score the winning touchdown the next. God, I hate everything about the Ducks.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Oregon just cost the entire pac12 a bunch of money

  • scotty says:
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    Checked the quack blogs. Predictably, nary a peep about Carrington’s alleged exploits of assault. Plenty of praise, though. Nauseating.

    • Ryan says:
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      So Carrington will be suspended after the season for team punishment…

      • scotty says:
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        Don’t worry, I’m sure they’ll throw the book at him with a lifetime ban.

        After he graduates.

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