16.Oct.2014 Utah Post Game Reaction

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I have two tickets to the Stanford game.

Does anyone want to buy them off me?

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From the last thread:

I didn’t think the O-line played badly other than the false starts (inexcusable at home). The sacks were mostly due to Utah being good pass rushers and the poor/obvious play calling or Mannion taking an eternity to make a decision. Utah did control the line but they didn’t dominate and get huge push, which means there were opportunities with some creativity. If I were coaching the Beavs I’d have developed and called an entirely different offensive game plan. If OSU were open to criticism and suggestions I’d email it to Bob D and Riley, but they likely have blocked me.

There were some obvious reasons the game fell on Mannion:

1. Missed wide open TD on the slot post.
2. Threw INT that lead to 3 points. Without that Beavs likely win. Those two plays are 10 points. Terrible for a senior QB.
3. Poor and slow decisions throughout, including taking bad sacks, missing wide open guys (Chris Brown in the flat), etc.

Riley blew clock management and play calling as he does every week.

D ran out of gas. Poor depth at LB.

Ward should be a 3rd down back and the Beavs use him as a featured back, so it’s hard to analyze run blocking fairly. Woods was rushing to a 5+ ypc. I just thought Mannion had equate time to pass or make a decision. Not great time but not terrible. Given the opponent that’s not poor o-line play imo.

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  • Ducky duck says:
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    How much I’m interested

    • angry angry says:
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      The face value is 82. I’d sell them for $140. Decent seats sec 232, row LL

      • Timber! says:
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        He needs to really bear down before he makes his final decision.

  • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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    I think you essentially saw a preview of that game tonight. 2 pretty good defenses and 2 overrated quarterbacks, but one has the star running back that will make the difference.

    • StarcraftSquall says:
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      Stanford doesn’t have a bell cow RB this year like they did I past years, one of the reasons their offense is struggling. It’s the other side of the ball where they are elite.

  • VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
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    I will make the same offer that I made in 2011 debacle.

    “Had enough? I’m rested and ready. I will be glad to come out of retirement and guide this team to at least two wins the remainder of the year.” Rested and ready..call me.

  • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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    So the next potentially good offensive year for OSU is looking like 3 years from now. They seem to be recruiting the O-line hard and they have their next Mannion in James Pensyl. These next couple of years are going to be brutal I’m afraid.

  • angry angry says:
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    People blaming the o-line: Utah was ranked #1 nationally in sacks and tackles for a loss.

    Also:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2137102-top-college-football-coaches-who-excel-and-struggle-against-top-25-teams/page/21

    • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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      So, don’t blame the o-line, blame Mannion for taking bad sacks… Right.

      I like how Mannion gets blamed for taking bad QB sacks, but the O-line is excused from allowing QB pressure/sacks because Utah was ranked #1 in sacks.

      • angry angry says:
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        He had time to throw. If you take an eternity to process info you’re going to get sacked.

    • scotty says:
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      Isn’t giving the O-line a pass kind of like giving the D and Banker a pass if Oregon puts 50 on us?

  • Houston Beavs says:
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    Oh jesus Wanker, you’ve got to be kidding me??? How can you not call the right definse?!?!!???!?!

    If Riley won’t fire this son of a b_tch, then we WILL!!!!!

    We GAVE you Quizz and James, even Storm What have you done in return???

    Complete failure to utilize the talent, this is ridiculous!! The Beavs SHOULD be 10-20 point favorites vs a crap team like Utah!!!!!

    Consider Hunter to be THE LAST recruit ever from Texas! Just SO TIRED of watching talent waste away with Riley and that low life yellow-belly Wanker!!!!!

    I WILL make sure the recruits from Texas go elsewhere from now on, and it REALLY pisses me off to have to say that. I’ve been a supporter and encouraged kids to participate in their camps and 7 on 7’s but after these last few seasons of underwhelming results, I’m done.

  • Jack says:
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    Just got done watching the game. It was actually pretty fun to watch without any emotional ties. There was some good play. There were some bad plays. But it was competitive and came down to the last play.

    It was pretty neat.

    • Jack says:
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      I would have bet their kicker would have been the one to shank it in OT with the constant mention of “Automatic Andy.”

      Oh well. It is what it is… and always will be.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      yeah. Losing to in double overtime was a real neat deal.

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    Riley and BDC walking off the field together, after the game, looked like a couple of old geezers heading to the early bird special at Shari’s. That post-game locker room had to be depressing place. Hip-Hip… oh never mind. JB

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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      This loss is squarely on the HC. Wasted TO’s and a slow motion offense on the last drive in regulation. Does Riley think a 2 minute drill means taking 2 minutes to call and run one play?

  • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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    I think it is more Riley than Mannion. The offense being so friggin slow last night is what lost the game at the end of the 4th quarter. They had over 3 minutes on the clock but ran plays like they had 10 on the clock. I seriously do not think they practice the 2 minute drills. Mannion has the tools and if coached right he’d be fine. But Riley coaches him into situations that make him look lost and confused and I think it is because he is thinking before the ball is hiked this isn’t the right call.

  • Calibeav says:
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    “I don’t know if I can recall all the situations,” coach Mike Riley said minutes after the game. ” … Lots of what ifs and close plays.”

    I think you were right about his mental state Angry.. Doesn’t sound too sharp with this quote…even for him.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    The way Riley CAN’T manage time, and can’t see that it’s an issue (among other things), makes him look like one of those very old, beloved coaches the institution is protecting. Not to be crass about it, but it’s almost like his mind is going and nobody wants to acknowledge it. I’m not trying to be funny, it’s just very strange to watch over and over. I always thought Riley was a slow-processor, but the repeated behavior is just stunning to watch and makes me wonder if he isn’t starting to lose it.

    It’s unbelievable that a veteran coach, with his own, recruited players, and a 5th year QB, can’t run a hurry up offense. Few of the benefits of experience were on display at the most critical times, when experience is supposed to be an advantage.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    The one thing that struck me this morning was all the guys that limped off the field. Injuries are part of the deal but after last night you have to wonder about their strength and conditioning program.

  • ean says:
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    I agree Utah plays a strong aggressive style of D but the O-line did a bad job of reading the blitzes and adjusting the blocking scheme. Gavin Andrews looked pretty bad and so did the RG.

  • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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    Have an idea for a new feature on Angrybeavs. How about a little fill-in-the-blank called: You know it wasn’t going to end well

    “You know it wasn’t going to end well when……(fill in the blank)”

    I’ll start.

    You know it wasn’t going to end well when the offense had to shush the crowd in the first quarter because they weren’t able to figure out the snap count.

    • steveEbeaver says:
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      I couldn’t believe what I was seeing.

    • Calibeav03 says:
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      You know it wasnt going to end well win:

      Up by 4 with around 7 minutes left in the 4th quarter and the ball on the opponents 40 yard line OSU does not run the ball. Instead they call some weird pass play where Sean Mannion looks like he has never thrown a football before… He double clutches and then throws the ball like 50 Cents at a Met game…

    • Timber! says:
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      You know it wasn’t going to end well when Riley went with his game plan.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    You know it wasn’t going to end well when the first offensive play of the game for the Beavs was a pass…

    You know it wasn’t going to end well when the Beaver D jumped offside on the blitz call and Booker ran right by the front 7.

  • angry angry says:
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    After two plays I wrote this:

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    Based on the first two plays I can tell the Beavs are going to lose. Utah dominated the trench.

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    So I guess that’s when I knew it wasn’t going to end well. Utah O-line was getting push and that only got worse over time.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Canzano says OSU celebrated too soon:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2014/10/canzano_oregon_state_beavers_q.html#incart_river

    Remember Riley’s visible, overly celebratory and relaxed demeanor against Texas in Alamo Bowl when OSU took a lead and against Stanford when OSU took a third(?) quarter lead?

    Same thing….

    • angry angry says:
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      Canzano makes a good point they celebrated OT too much. But worse, when they took they lead they acted like they had won the game. At that time I wrote the D would have to make stands, and the Beavs were setup for heartbreak. Part of that comment was based on seeing this in the past…where they celebrate a go ahead score as if they won the game. That’s on the head coach as well. He should be all business at that point and say get out there and defend the win.

    • Outcast says:
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      I don’t know why he (and as a result, his teams) do that. 2009 Civil War when they went up 30-21 still stands out as the worst example to me of getting over-celebratory way too early and pissing away a golden opportunity as a result.

  • 74Beav says:
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    We are well into our 6th straight year of mediocrity. We can not beat a good team and about once a year lose to bad teams. In the prior 5 years we have ZERO wins against any team that finished with < 5 losses. We were 0-18 vs Top 20 teams. Counting this year, we are now 3-21 vs Top 25 teams in the past 5.5 years; even worse, we are 1-13 the past 3.5 years vs. Top 25 teams.

    While unable to beat good teams, we have lost to 6 teams during this time frame that finished ranked worse than 50.

    What does this mean for this year, maybe 1 to 2 more wins. Time for a change as the bottom of the Pac 12 is getting better and we are stuck in mediocrity.

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      *lose

    • ObjCritic says:
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      I keep harping on this, but Riley is now 56-57 in league play, and that record will continue to drop this season, and in the next two seasons at least.

      Empirically, Riley is excelling at mediocrity.

      Institutionally, the mindset seems to be that Riley’s a local guy and what he’s doing is better than 28-straight losing seasons.

      From a fan perspective, I think people are finally starting lose patience. Hell, even the guys at Pure Orange are starting to throw down their pom-poms in frustration, and posts that identify the same problems identified here are not all being deleted. Or not right away.

      The success of Chip Kelly, the competitiveness of other PAC programs with new coaches, the success of Casey and Rueck, the recruiting success of Robinson and the early success of Tinkle, all help bring Riley’s recruiting and game management incompetence into very high and specific relief. It cannot be ignored over the next 2-3 years.

      I actually tend to hope for another CW embarrassment because I think it might push OSU boosters and fans to put pressure on BDC. The bad part is what the players feel and how it affects recruiting.

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      @74Beav: Was wondering where you came up with those stats?

      I’m asking because I’m trying to compare your numbers with these:
      http://online.wsj.com/news/interactive/COUNT0820?ref=SB10001424052970204616804580100153599965336

      TIA

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    What I take from this game:
    How even these teams are. Both with tough defenses. Mannion threw for 279, Booker ran for 220. So they get their yards differently but add up the same. Turnovers were even, special teams were close slight edge to Utah.

    It makes sense both teams recruit the same top 45-50 class ranks. Both programs are mirror of each. Utah’s season looks like one of Rileys 8-4 years so good wins and wierd losses.

    Their were a ton of plays in such a close game that if they had gone either way would have meant a different outcome. The 3rd and 2 Booker took up the gut down to the 5. A stop their by the defense and we win. It still took a fourth down play to score. They should have had a touchdown reception from Anderson that was called out. The offensive line misses Isaac, who should just go pro no sense coming back next season. How does your center false start twice in snaps?

    The hurry up offense is embarrassing. Why not play for the win their, instead they take :35 to snap the ball every time.

    The one thing this team needs is “attitude”. Riley has never been a raw-raw guy, he leaves that up to the players, which is okay when you have a Matt Moore, Moveao, or Stroughter to do it for you. This team doesn’t have that on this team. It’s seems like that killer instinct isnt there, and you don’t get it from the staff.

    That was a hard fought game between two even teams, Utah just seemed liked they wanted it a little more.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      special teams were not close. Their kicker made all his. Ours missed one. Did you forget how many times we fielded a punt inside the 10 or brought a kickoff out of the end zone from 5-8 yards deep?

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    Call it therapy if you want, but I’ve gotta pitch in my $.02 in response to the post near the end of the game thread by “thatguy”.

    I submit that most here are not “Expecting perfect games out of 18-23 year old athletes…” What is so discouraging is that with better coaching those same athletes could achieve greater success. Without discussing recruiting or conditioning and just looking at preparation, leadership, and game management there are so many examples that refute the statement that, “Y’all complain way too much”.

    The glacial pace of getting play calls in, the lack of anything that looks like a hurry up offense, failures to get the right players in on special teams, and (as pointed out by Jim Wilson) losing track of the down count are just a few of the areas of coaching failure. Riley pissing his pants with excitement that he’d made it to OT when he should have been focusing his guys on the task at hand just provides another example. Add to that the continued reliance on a “complex playbook” over solid fundamentals along with a demonstrated lack of ability to effectively use TO’s and you’ve got ample reason to complain.

    Like Riley, “thatguy” may be a nice person. He may even ride a bike and probably never kicks his dog. But, like Riley’s approach, “thatguys” efforts fail to hit the mark.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      I was thinking of the term “glacial” too. UO goes “Blur,” OSU goes “Glacial.”

      Announcer: “Uh oh Jim. OSU’s going glacial! Go make a sandwich, you can still make it back for the false start or delay of game.”

      Jim: “You want one too?”

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      I don’t have a dog. Haha but anyway, I think for the money that gets put into the program (let’s leave out the location because that excuse is kinda BS in my own opinion), the support of the fans in terms of how the athletes get treated (I’m a student, and these guys are barely celebrities…most people don’t recognize them outside their helmets, I rarely witness incidents of special treatment), and the history of the program, they fare about where they should. They win some games, but there are better teams in existence.

      Do I expect more out of Riley? Sometimes sure. I was livid about the Hail Mary because I know that the players are talented and better than that. I stay livid about Banker. I can’t stand how the kickoff team brings it out to the 17 yard line most times, especially when Murphy decides to run into the sideline when there’s clearly no hole. But everyone expects national championship/Pac-12 championship consistently, but someone has to fill one of those 12 slots each year.

      Someone has to lose a few games no matter which way you slice it. It makes sense that the team with the middling salaries for coaches and mid level conditions wins a few and loses a few. Plus I think the board puts too much stake in athletics. People call the school an embarrassment and are calling for Ray’s head because the athletics program isn’t that great? I laugh at that.

  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    A team that cant execute any kind of proper clock management, much less do a “hurry-up”, cant be called a well-coached team. So I cant see how anyone can call Riley a good coach. More like a barely adequate coach….usually just manages to get the season a winning record and get into a meaninless bowl game.

    His lack of ability to manage game time is to me symptomatic of either not giving a shit, or an actual state of some sort of dementia. Riley cant be that stupid. It seems to never fail that the announcers are calling obvious clock management/game management errors on Riley. Since it is SO obvious, and happens in every game, … WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?!?

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      confusing downs, which caused them to burn the second time out of the second half in order to obviate having a too many men (13 by my count at the time) on the field was one of the more egregious coaching gaffes. In real time I thought it was Joe Seumalo who first raised the fist (indicating fourth down) that sent some of the punt team onto the field prematurely.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Riley in the Portland-Tribune:

    “Riley said, “I wish I’d gone for (a two-point conversion) after we scored in the first overtime.”

    Remember the famous loss at LSU, when Serna was kicking his last miss and Riley was apparently frantically calling a timeout to go for 2 but was too late?

    These guys do not learn.

    In addition to the likely QB struggles again next year, I expect we’ll see LB challenges due to inexperience and depth. There is some young talent there, but OSU usually doesn’t know how to use young talent early.

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      Wish I’d gone for a 2 pt conversion…. LOL — wish I hadnt effed up my recruiting, my clock management, my playcalling, my nice-guy dont-give-a-shit attitude, etc, etc…

      …next year… … whatever Riley is suffering from, a lack of giving a shit, or dementia, will be worse. Maybe, if he forgets to show up at a game, BDC will start thinking he should retire…

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      Yeah, Rommel Mageo (LB) and Justin Strong (S) are gonna need plenty of help. Don’t know how vocal Strong will be, but he could be the spark plug, still need other parts to make the thing go.

    • Calibeav says:
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      Again the mental disconnect.. it’s like RIley thinks someone else (a mystical being or some shit) has control of the team and not him..

      You are in charge dude!!!! If you want to go for two then do it man! You have the power to make decisions bro.

  • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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    Phil Knight is preparing to blow a giant filthy load all over the University of Oregon tonight. Nobody knows how much he’s planning to announce he’s donating, but there’s speculation that it will of record breaking proportions.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/education/index.ssf/2014/10/huge_phil_knight_donation_to_u.html

  • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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    right now on local radio(1080 the fan), they’re asking listeners to text in their realistic ideas of who fans think the Beavs should target as a replacement coach to Riley. Get on your text machines fellas…

    Send your answers to: 55305

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      Shit I vote for a corpse and we have a “weekend at Bernie’s” coaching staff. I doubt they’d do any worse than our current regime and cost a helluva lot less.

  • angry angry says:
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    Any links to post game video interviews? Too ambivalent to go look around. But Riley sounds hilarious in these.

    By the way, going for 2 at home is very dumb. The home field advantage should negate that thought. He’s lost his mind.

  • angry angry says:
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    Wow, Riley looks like the walking dead.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/10/oregon_state_football_mike_ril_44.html

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      He just says the oddest things…..I thought he (Romaine) hit it good, I don’t know what happened? Umm, Mike he missed it. Maybe you could ask Romaine or his special teams coach and get some details.

      He just speaks in such generalities, but does it with a smile and accessibilty that the media just eats up. I actually think he’s a genius to have survived as long as he has.

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        Yeah…..it would be really refreshing if he just said something like “SHIT…GAWDAMMITTT!!!….MAWTHERFUK!!… (like a real human would….)

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    I’ll play,

    You knew it was over when……………………..

    It was announced the game was nationally televised on ESPN in primetime

  • TP Beavs says:
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    SSSSSSHHHIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTT!!!@#!$&!%!?*!!!!

  • Timber! says:
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    Not to make light of cancer but ya the pink is way over done…here are the other colors…

    http://www.choosehope.com/category/by-cancer-color-cancer-type

  • FireBDCNow says:
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    Why is OSU so in love with old fogeys? Fine that some of these guys stayed invested and interested but you have got to pass the torch and let the new generations take the lead.

    BDC looked like he should about be in a wheelchair. Then all the admins celebrate barely mediocre guys from 30+ years ago that has next to no bearing on our present. Then this Riley bullshit even though he is now sub .500 in conference and only made schmuck bowls in 14 years.

    The greats walk away in their prime. Look at Landon Donovan in soccer. Said he helped raise the bar and it was time for some younger pups to have their chance to shape a new generation and try to raise it again. Why does OSU have to cling on to scraps for so long without redefining themselves and letting the more obvious current generation have its day instead of hanging on way past what is healthy or natural?

    I have not seen this problem as bad anywhere else. Paterno won Rose Bowls and that culture still was defective and led to a messed up situation. Riley hasn’t done shit and yet he wants that kinda bullshit instead of the best interests of taking a step forward and then passing it along for the next man to then take another step.

    Just really think Oregon State has one if the seriously most fucked cultures in the nation. How we allow BDC to run this show is nuts. Don’t support this nonsense. They have had way too much time already. The opportunity cost of what else OSU could be that we are missing for tired retreads is just sad.

    Pass it forward coach and AD. It’s past time.

  • Jack says:
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    I’m not quite sure why there’s any angst about all this. You all know it’s the same old same old. Why respond with the same old same old? Just enjoy the ride… or don’t.

    This is you all:

  • Jack says:
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    The question has to be asked:

    What was a motorcycle doing dressed as Shaft?
    http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24756967/video-tubby-smith-falls-off-of-motorcycle-dressed-as-shaft

  • Jack says:
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    And… to go along with the college degree post… who the hell needs a college degree anyway?
    http://fortune.com/2014/09/16/wal-mart-spokesman-resigns/?xid=ob_rss

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    angry’s post about what Blitzers were saying stuck in my head… dammit. I still don’t care what those gypsies and their victims say or think other than their (usually) vile trolling when it occurs here. But PO is open and good for thought. So I headed over there to see what they were doing.

    I ran across this post by someone who is somewhat measured… still a little unfocused… still, on the right track and in the right for most of it.
    http://www.pure-orange.net/cgi/anyboard.cgi/bscpigskin2?cmd=iYz&aK=18223&iZz=18223&gV=0&kQz=&aO=1&iWz=0

    These are the best bits:

    “Maybe the University Presidents should meet
    Re: By the same token, there is a segment of the fanbase…. — treeater
    Posted by: BVRS4EVR ®
    10/18/2014, 01:46:17
    and compare balance sheets. The richest school will get the Championship Trophy. No need to bother playing the game.
    Here is a set of facts for you: OSU won a Co Championship and then beat the most storied program in the Nation in a BCS Bowl. That team finished ranked 4th in the nation. They played in an antiquated stadium that was an embarrassment to the University. They had crummy locker rooms and other facilities.
    What they did have was men of vision that saw no reason that OSU could not excel in athletics.”

    “Clarify mediocrity and what it means to you.
    Re: No longer being dreadful does not justify mediocrity. — jaydub
    Posted by: treeater ®
    10/17/2014, 20:57:08
    What would you call it if you watched a twelve car race where the car in the 12th poll position finished the race in 5th place?
    On your scale of mediocrity the driver above would be:
    1. A loser(below mediocre) because he didn’t finish first.
    2. Some great driving(mediocre) he passed 6 cars all of who started ahead of him, but couldn’t quite catch the other 4 who were way out in front from the start.
    3. This is a stupid exercise that proves nothing and I refuse to answer. ”

    The first one is dead on right and just to the point. No excuses… no whining… no flashy facilities or uniforms… justa ball and the will to kick the other team’s ass.

    The second… I’ve seen this treeater’s posts around before, and I have to say I’d love to challenge him to an iocane battle of wits. And I’ve not built up an immunity to iocane. Why try an analogy with something you know nothing about? First, there is only one pole position… not 12… not 43… one. And as someone who has followed all sorts of racing for years, I can tell you qualifying has little to do with the race itself other than give you a couple little advantages, like getting out of the pits faster). But that’s about it. If a car rolls off the truck in good race trim and practices fine tune it, that’s the car to beat. They aren’t going to wreck that fine tuning just for qualifying and some meaningless starting position. They know they have the car to beat, and they will gladly start in the middle of the pack in order to keep their integrity.

    The options he gives are weird. But then most of his posts are just weird.
    1: No.
    2: Umm… great driving is not mediocre… never… ever. Just because dude finished more laps than the seven who crashed in turn two on a restart in lap 25 doesn’t mean there was any good driving going on, let alone great driving. Wtf man? Btw… 6+4+me equals less than 12. Just saying….
    3: Sorry… it doesn’t even rise to relevant, let alone stupid.

    But the best is saved for the last paragraph in one dude’s post:

    “By the way for you pathetic losers calling for the coaches head or going off on him after every loss I can’t believe you as you say he will never make the Rose Bowl or win the conference championship well I got news for you, I ALWAYS start each season looking for a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP so when you get over thinking small time then let me know :)”

    This one is an easy response. If s/he starts every season with these expectations s/he is just bonkers. When the coach whose head s/he purports to support is gone, there might be something to that idea. But why get hopes up for what you already know will happen?

    • OSU97 says:
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      Yaqui, you’re so full of shit!

      • Jack says:
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        I’m not sure what the Yoeme have to do with Beav football. If this was a discussion about Joe Burton… maybe?

        But OSU football?

        Relevance please?

    • steveEbeaver says:
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      I beg to differ on the starting grid. It’s why I stopped watching F1.

      • Jack says:
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        F1 qualifying is different. You can totally tell who has the best car from their tiered qualifying system. But when you have a one-off system you can’t tell who has the best car for a whole race based on the one-off lap.

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    You guys are so over-complicating the situation. It would take Ed Ray 15 minutes (or if he wanted to be magnanimous, a half-hour lunch) to fire/offer a graceful retirement option to BDC and shake things up. However, I have it on reasonable authority that once Ed Ray gives someone a job, he’s done. In fact, if BDC was mentioned to him, Ed Ray might pause to reflect upon who BDC is.

    • angry angry says:
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      Fire Ed Ray.

      • thatguy says:
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        You must be out of your effing mind if you think that’s even a slightly good idea. In every other facet of running the school Ray is doing a fantastic job; the Campaign for OSU raised well over a billion dollars, financing many academic buildings and campus projects making the school look beautiful and more modern, and attracting better talent for professors and doctoral students. Research funding is up. Salaries after graduation are up. Enrollment is up above the normal rate. The colleges are all improving in talent and functionality. Athletics is but a small portion of a university. Universities are primarily about education and research, both of which OSU is doing pretty good at.

        But you’re butthurt because our sports teams aren’t national title contenders. Okey dokey

  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    The examples for getting rid of a coach are clear. Wagner was got rid of when her team started walking off. CR was got rid of when the fans walked off.

    There are your templates. Get one or the other to happen, and you get a coaching change.

    I dont see the first one happening with Riley. But the second could….

    Just sayin….

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