21.Oct.2014 Oregon State @ Stanford

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Unfortunately I’m going to this game and fully expect my first in-person Beav loss.

I don’t have much to say about it and my energy (and your energy) can be better spent elsewhere. The short of it is that OSU won’t score much at all on this defense. 13 points if they’re lucky. The Stanford blogger will be around shortly with some more insight.

27-10 Stanford

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  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    One thing I’m looking forward to is more passing to Jarmon and Dockery (specifically Jarmon)

    I’d like to see what Jarmon can do after the catch, if he’s given the chance to catch the ball in stride. Seems like most of his catches have been acrobatic reaches, that most players wouldn’t be able to snag anyway. Our receiving corp will be all Sophomores and younger the rest of the season.

    Also, sounds like Ward and Woods are both sitting out of practice the past few days, meaning more reps for Brown and Haskins. Might as well start building experience for next years’ players.

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      Was it just me, or did Brown seem like he was easy to get knocked down in the Utah game?

      • Jack says:
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        On one play in the 3rd maybe. Besides that and a run to the edge where he got knocked out of bounds he went down with two to four guys on him. And he never went down for a loss or no gain. On his last run he ran into about four defenders at about the six yard mark and somehow squeezed another three yards out of it.

      • wannabeav says:
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        I thought he looked good. No problems with ball security, quick to the line (“north and south!”) and if he blew a block in pass protection I missed it. You hate to see things happen to guys like Seumalo and now Mullaney, but the truth is with Mannion this team was going to top out at 6-7 wins anyway. With the receiving crew reserves and now back up running back getting some quality playing time, it helps mitigate the lack of exposure that Vander Veen and Del Rio are (not) getting. Still, 4-5 wins is the top-end for next year.

        • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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          This is what concerned me before the season our depth at WR. Although they maybe valued receivers I wonder if they would be able to stay healthy? Mullaney and Bolden seem injury prone because of their size. Not saying Villamin won’t get hurt but his size is benefit. Guys like Hawkins I wonder their durability. Rodgers and Cooks were above the norm, and even James suffered a knee injury.

        • Nak says:
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          Assuming this season ends at around .500 what round does Mannion get drafted in? Graded out as a 3rd rounder LY but that’s not a guarantee. I have my opinion about him but am interested in what you guys think.

  • Bill says:
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    This game has a similar feeling to the Utah game. Stanford has lost when they couldn’t get their run game going and Hogan has to try to win it with his arm. The winner of this game will be the team that gets the run game going because their QB isn’t going to be helping out much. The offense hasn’t shown much creativity lately. In years past, you’d see wrinkles every week but it seems like the same stuff each week and other teams are jumping the plays.

    This will be the 4th game where the game plan is overall the same, stop the run and make the QB win it in the air.

    The positives for the Beavs,
    – Stanford does not possess a great back who can wear down the defense.
    – Hogan has not made much progress as a passer into his SR year.
    – Only one playmaking WR. With Nelson on him, he’ll be limited.

    The negatives for the Beavs,
    – Injuries are killer. Stanton at T for his first ever start is going to be rough. The run game is a huge question mark.
    – The DT injuries really hurt. Might have been able to slow down Utah last week with two more healthy DTs.
    – Road game

    Intangibles –
    BUT BUT BUT BUT, if angry hasn’t seen the Beavs lose in person, how can you go against that?

  • Issaquahbeav says:
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    Pretty much agree and calling a 24-6 Tree victory. Hogan is awful but Beavs will find away to make him look decent.

    • wannabeav says:
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      The point spread is ridiculous. There’s no reason to be sanguine about the prospects for a beav victory (on coaching acumen alone) but I think they cover. 20-17 ‘furd, on a late field goal.

  • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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    The last 2 games have come down to the final possession. I’m predicting this game to be the same. 24-21 Beavs

    • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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      Meant to expand on other reasons:

      1) Seems like we’re due to eek out a close one in this series
      2) Stanford Crowd doesn’t provide that big of a home field advantage
      3) Shaw’s major deficiencies as a coach are play calling and clock management so it’s a wash
      4) Hogan throws ducks

      • oneoldbeav says:
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        5) Angry’s never witnessed a Beav loss in person
        6) Stanford’s NT is doubtful for this Saturday, even questionable for the next week
        7) Shaw making changes at right guard
        8) Shaw sounds a bit like Riley here, “I didn’t anticipate being this deep in the season and still trying to figure out what’s best for the offense,” especially when he says, “I have to utilize personnel better.”

        http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_26771310/stanford-coach-david-shaw-blames-himself-offensive-woes

        • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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          Wait….. you mean Riley has put blame on himself for….anything? Damn, I missed it….

          • oneoldbeav says:
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            Not what I mean, although I can see good reason for you to come to that conclusion.

            I saw similarities in that Shaw doesn’t know what is the best offense and he “has to utilize…”. A (admittedly very little) little like Riley wanting to run more when he is the one responsible for calling so many passes and wishing he’d gone for two in the OT.

        • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          I kind of have to agree with him. Hogan is terrible so you can’t rely on a big passing game. The O line is banged up and they have no bruiser at tailback. So what DO they have? A pretty stout D. It’s asking a lot for your defense to win games for you. Basically don’t make mistakes, let your D and special teams (they have a pretty fucking good punt returner) win the field position battle, get a few turnovers and turn short fields into points. What else can they do at this point? I’d also let whoever their punt returner is take a few fly sweeps but I don’t think that’s in Stanford’s arsenal.

  • Jack says:
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    Both defenses score, but SU kicks three more FGs than we do.

    SU – 19
    OSU – 10

  • Rileysucks says:
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    27-10 Stanford feels about right. Also agree OSU has some chance for 13 points but that will likely fade away quicker than the ugly and stupid Mannion porn stache. Probably an interception when in scoring territory takes it away or an unnecessary damn punt from the 38 yard line. Stanford seems likely to get a few TDs and a couple field goals.

    Riley will continue to waste considerable yards running out of the endzone, be poor when trying to score near the end of the half and nearly a handful of other errors like we see against any Top 50 team in his progressive decline.

    Best thing about this game, even though Stanford is down and it would be winnable with a decent coach, is that the Pollys tired arguments get that much weaker and they pretty much are admitting Riley doesn’t even have to beat a single Top 60 opponent in a season to still pass Oregon State standards under that donkeyshit AD DeCareLess. Message boards will pound Riley & BDC as the losses will look to be piling quick and Riley still keeps making all his usual same mistakes.

    That many more will have had enough of the ineptitude. As the voices of discontent spread and grow louder, BDC looks dumber and dumber and hopefully that means he steps down in the next 2 years or sooner. Ed Ray might actually start realizing how ridiculously awful that contract was and how bad it has made the situation and be forced to can him early before fans start arguing more that he is a big part of this growing debacle too.

    Does Ray really want to see how ugly this could get for the next few years? Or does he not give a rats ass if OSU works back down toward the cellar of the Pac-12? That is a completely unacceptable position in most fan eyes for a school competing in the nation’s 2nd best conference. You change leaders when they continue to fall short and show very poor ability to correct the areas in need of improving.

    The university is much more important than a couple of men who already have had 3 times the amount of time than what is usually given and are clearly in decline. You sure as hell don’t sell this shit as a great job done and make it worse and worse. Too many fans are ready for a change unless things turn around quick and it seems very unlikely that they will. BDC needs to take the fall for this and Riley should be right behind him if he doesn’t start winning against better competition damn soon. He is just too sloppy in overall management over 60 minutes so expect his bungles to continue and more fans to have had enough.

    This declining Riley isn’t working and his adaptations, which are few, are getting worse. Something needs to be done before the worst case scenario over the next couple years plays out. If BDC is fired early than that will give some hope. Mike Riley retiring would also give many new hope. But watching as this year tanks with a 5th year “HeisMannion” and the next two look like 3 to 4 wins is just asking for disaster. If Ray and BDC are OK with that then it be at their own peril.

    • helmsley says:
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      Ed Ray just got a raise. Not sure he cares about or notices the Athletic Department – probably thinks BDC is doing a fine job.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      I can’t see Stanford scoring 27 points. Or either team for that matter. They managed only 10 on ASU and ASSU’s D is soft. 16-3 Stanford. I was leaning towards zero for the beavs but gifted them a FG.

  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    Coach Tinkle mic’d up at practice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtk8rw9iLlY&feature=youtu.be

    Anyone see any resemblance to CR? Me neither….

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      Pretty sure CR had bigger calves. It’s interesting to see what a new coach focuses on since it reveals what was lacking with the previous coach. It looked like an emphasis on D, communicating on the court, and giving full effort all of practice.

      • Jack says:
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        Or maybe those are what he always prioritizes? They do stand out as being contrary to what we’ve seen from our team for… oh… 20+ years now. And I’m sure every coach at least talks these points and even works on them a little at first.

        But I think what you and we all see is that Tinkle is truly sincere about it all, and the players respond to his lead well.

        And credit the kids who are left and incoming for being the type of kids who do respond well to that type of leadership. I’m excited for the upcoming year simply because this finally looks like a year we won’t have any egos. These kids have no choice but to band together as a team and go out and play.

        • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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          That’s true, it may be things he always emphasizes. I’m looking forward to it.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      holy shit! Emphasis on fundamentals? Liking him more and more everyday

    • Rileysucks says:
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      Tinkle won me over with the “You did the baby bird deal. Right here mama feed me” comment about a lax big backing up to the basket and waiting for it to go through to start the action the other way.

      3:04 mark. Hilarious.

      • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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        I think he coined the motto for this team going forward.

        “Play your balls off”

        It needs to become Oregon state’s Win the Day.

        Also, coaching this team looks exhausting does’t it? So many guys have a tendancy to take the easy way out on a play and half ass things. It’s nice to see coach getting on their case. Gonna be a long year but it will be good to build good habits going into next year.

    • scotty says:
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      That is a beautiful practice facility! (credit to CR I guess?)

  • RanYakumo says:
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    OT: Jared Cunningham’s playing for the Clippers in preseason right now, and he’s killing it. Good passes, lots of cutting, and just generally looking more like he did at OSU.

  • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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    Garrett taking over the play calling may help but it you read between the lines Riley still has the reins. Riley’s way of avoiding the heat?

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/10/offensive_coordinator_john_gar_1.html

  • TP Beavs says:
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    Stanford – 5
    OSU – 2

  • Ducky duck says:
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    angry tried to sell tickets for some absurd amount of money while stubhub has 12 dollar tickets lmfao

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      you could give me 2 tickets and 12 bucks and I still wouldn’t waste 3+ hours watching the beavs play live.

      • ObjCritic says:
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        Maybe you just can’t appreciate the live experience of an OSU delay-of-game call in a stadium that’s 70% full and un-involved.

        Looking forward to Angry’s post-game write-up after an in-person viewing.

        Angry – you going to post in-game comments?

        • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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          All kidding aside, the Utah game (although you’re right was about 70% full, but what do you expect for a 7:00 pm Thursday night game) was about as loud as I’ve seen the stadium in a couple years. Everyone standing and cheering all game long. We had a random Ute sitting next to us (who I kid you not looked exactly like Whittingham’s redneck twin brother) who was awesome (which was nice because the last home game against Utah we had the most obnoxious fan who talked shit while being down the entire game. Had everyone in the section ready to kick his ass.)

          The game was a blast up until the last second kick to the nuts.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            I think he’s referring to Stanford Stadium

    • angry angry says:
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      When I named that price that was the going rate on stubhub. Everyone wants to sell their tickets now because both teams stink. Obviously price goes down. The cheapest seats in my section are now $50, btw.

  • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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    Someone asked about Mattison a couple weeks ago. He’s in this article about halfway down. No orange and black for him:
    http://www.si.com/longform/homeless/

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      sounds like he isn’t worth the trouble

      • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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        The story makes it sound like he’s done as far as football is concerned, but then Riley says he’d still like to bring him to OSU.

        http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/10/mike_riley_remains_hopeful_law.html

        One thing they didnt mention i the story is that Mattison actually played a couple games at the first Juco, but then got injured and was going to be out the rest of the season. Shortly after is when he suddenly switched up to another Juco, where he didnt stick either. too bad he let a girl get into his head and derail his path. maybe we should tell him about the top notch sexual health we have up here in Beaver country?

        • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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          He fell victim to the power of the poon. Agree with WSN. Induct him to the all Simi Kuli team and move on.

          • ObjCritic says:
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            South Park’s Mr. Garrison: “Yeah, I tell you boys, women can kill. Poontang’s expensive. That’s why when it comes to chicks, I just screw them and leave them. I’d say “get out of my bedroom, poontang, before you suck my life dry!”

      • osubaby osubaby says:
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        Sounds like the fight we need. The 2000 team had players like Mattison, fire, grit and fight.

        • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          you obviously didn’t even read the article

          After his homelessness became known, he moved in with a teammate’s family and slept on the couch. After several weeks there, Lawrence was taken into the home of James and Robin Perrin, a couple who did volunteer work with a Christian ministry. They gave Lawrence a spare bedroom. The Perrins brought order and accountability into his life. Lawrence had a designated time for homework and tutoring. He had a scheduled ride to school and practice. But the arrangement lasted only a couple of months. Lawrence loved the attention and the security of a home but still found it tough to adjust. Suddenly he had to answer for his classwork and whereabouts. He was unable to come and go as he pleased. “There were growing pains to the loss of freedom,” says James, a lawyer. “He had been on his own for so long, it was hard to go from that to a more structured environment.”

          Zero self control, accountability, and a complete lack of discipline. Yeah he’d fit right in on Erickson’s teams

  • NorCalBeaver NorCalBeaver says:
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    Our BEAVS have a horrible history or starting poorly and finishing well. Where’s the talk of finding the teams identity…? Lol. I’m sure I’ll get blasted but damn I hope somehow this game is a turning point to a strong finish. Wish in one hand right? I have to stay home because it’s my daughters last soccer game…unless somehow it rains here in sac. I’m doing my rain dance. Calling for the BEAVS to turn shit around. 27-18 go BEAVS!

    Also there will be a badass tailgate in lot 10 in the eucalyptus fields.

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      50% chance of rain at kickoff. Don’t know about sac.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    A mildly interesting aspect of this team might be the development of Jarmon, Dockery, and Villamin. But all of that will continue next year with a new qb.

    The offensive line changes might eventually result in more than false starts; I won’t be surprised to see Msnnion get injured and miss some games.

    Can’t keep hoping the D bails this team out as it nearly did against Utah, and they can’t beat Stanford alone. Stanford in a snoozer of a game, 24-6.

  • mckalk says:
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    Hard to fathom Stanford dropping to 4-4. This is a team that have gone to four straight BCS games, so they’re probably already pretty pissed about how the season is going. I think Shaw has them ready and the Beavs are so flawed, I don’t see how they win on the road.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    A new recruiting tool for OSU?

    http://www.oregonlive.com/education/index.ssf/2014/10/oregon_state_university_earns.html#incart_river

    • ObjCritic says:
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      Sorry for double post, knew I should have refreshed browser before posting.

      Too bad these study results weren’t revealed right before USC game.

    • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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      Don’t be a fool, wrap your tool.

      Trojan: Protecting your Beaver’s Beaver since 1916

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        except in Eugene. They just gang rape and tag team. Chinese finger cuffs! we don’t wrap up our worm cause we wanna see you covered in sperm! Or just go to the landfill parking lot on game days to see the rapists in action. Up close in their real, home environment.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    OSU a winner, sexually healthy Beavers:
    http://www.oregonlive.com/education/index.ssf/2014/10/oregon_state_university_earns.html#incart_river

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Incoming Beavs baseball recruiting class ranked #9 in country

    http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30800&ATCLID=209731602

  • StarcraftSquall says:
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    Phil Steele’s breakdown:

    Stanford has won the last 4 in the series. LY OSU had a 23-13 FD edge. Mannion went 41-
    57 but for just 6.6 ypc. SU led 7-3 at HT (162-82 yd edge). Up 8, SU punted w/1:34 left
    and after OSU had a 1&gl from the SU7, SU forced 4 str inc passes (last w/:01) as SU won
    20-12. SU all’d their most pts TY in their 26-10 loss to AZSt as the Cardinal were held to
    just 14 FD’s & 288 yds. The key play happened when Stanford PR Montgomery fumbled
    and set up a 12 yd TD drive with 2:00 left in the half. OSU is off a 2OT 29-23 loss to Utah
    despite having 20-16 FD & 391-315 yd edgs. They’ve pl’d 1 common foe in USC & SU had
    a 122 yd edge in the 3 pt loss while OSU was outg’d by 280 yds in their 25 pt loss. While
    Oreg St’s D is all’g 76 ypg less than what their opp are avg, Stanford is all’g 207 ypg less.
    Also in Pac-12 play, Stanford is +113 ypg while Oreg St is -63 ypg. Look for a low scoring
    game and for the Cardinal to get a bounce back win here.

    STANFORD 23 OREGON STATE 10

    POSITION BY POSITION BREAKDOWNS:

    Oregon St QB/WR’s vs Stanford DB’s: STAN +0.33
    Oregon St RB’s vs Stanford LB’s: STAN +2.05
    Oregon St OL vs Stanford DL: STAN +1.93

    Oregon St DL vs Stanford OL: STAN +0.49
    Oregon St LB’s vs Stanford RB’s: ORST +0.34
    Oregon St DB’s vs Stanford QB/WR’s: STAN +1.69

    Special Teams: STAN +1.69
    Kicker: ORST +1.52
    Coaching: Equal

    TOTAL: STAN +4.68

    PROJECTED BOX SCORE ORST STAN
    Projected Rushing 48 143
    Projected Passing 160 196
    Projected Yardage Total 208 339
    Projected Final Score-PC 8 23
    Experience Rankings 51 93
    Team Schedule Strength 34 30

    • Outcast says:
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      A bit surprised to see that large of an advantage to the Stanford QB/WRs over the OSU DB’s. Montgomery is legit, but Nelson should be up to the task of at least keeping him from having a breakout game. Other than him, the rest of that passing attack doesn’t exactly worry me.

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        Oops that was a typo. Let me readjust that.

        POSITION BY POSITION BREAKDOWNS:

        Oregon St QB/WR’s vs Stanford DB’s: STAN +0.33
        Oregon St RB’s vs Stanford LB’s: STAN +2.05
        Oregon St OL vs Stanford DL: STAN +1.93

        Oregon St DL vs Stanford OL: STAN +0.49
        Oregon St LB’s vs Stanford RB’s: ORST +0.34
        Oregon St DB’s vs Stanford QB/WR’s: STAN +0.05

        Special Teams: STAN +1.69
        Kicker: ORST +1.52
        Coaching: Equal

        TOTAL: STAN +4.68

        PROJECTED BOX SCORE ORST STAN
        Projected Rushing 48 143
        Projected Passing 160 196
        Projected Yardage Total 208 339
        Projected Final Score-PC 8 23
        Experience Rankings 51 93
        Team Schedule Strength 34 30

  • helmsley says:
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    From Victor Robbins oregonstate.edu interview:

    That comes with playing time because you can only get so much confidence in practice. I have to be in the game to get the groove, and be able to mess up one time and not worry about messing up. In the past I’d mess up one time and know I was about to come out of the game. Once I get the flow of everything I’ll be fine.”

    Pulling guys out after one mistake was the single-most thing I really, really hated about CR’s coaching . . . but there were many others.

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      Lesson here is, don’t mess up and you get to play.

      • JD says:
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        No, it caused poor play because he was worried about messing up instead of just playing the game. I agree that this was one of the things that bugged me most about Robinson’s coaching. It was obvious that the young guys were playing to not mess up.

      • Jack says:
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        I think what Robbins is saying is that in the past he played not to make mistakes instead of playing to the best of his ability, flaws and all.

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      I’ve been kinda paying attention to some of the stuff he’s said in interviews over the past few years now and he doesn’t seem to have grown up. Comments just ooze “I deserve this much playing time regardless of how I perform”. Remember the comments after the news of Starks transferring broke?

      He shot 28% from 3 last year…of course you got benched. Lapses on defense and all that. Guys behind him who wanted to play and were willing to do more. He’s such a talented player but his work ethic doesn’t match and that’s why he hasn’t had success, not whatever BS he’s talking about.

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        someone from his family (maybe his mom) was all over the OSU mens hoops FB page pining for him to play last year. Lol. Makes me dislike him even more. That kind of attitude goes better to the south of OSU

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    If you honestly feel that way why are you going? Going just because you’ve spent the money is a prime example of the sunk cost fallacy. If you think you would have a better time doing something else, then do something else. Otherwise, stop being so melodramatic.

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    The Trojans…. Sark is a tool. Love to see drama from the entitled elite University of Spoiled Children (USC). USC has one of their players escorted away by police because he spoke out against the coaching staff.

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/usc/uscnow/la-sp-usc-lendale-white-coliseum-20141018-story.html

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    Literally the sunk cost fallacy.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_costs#Loss_aversion_and_the_sunk_cost_fallacy

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      I’m not throwing good money after bad. I’ve already thrown the good money and want something in return for it. I have a ride up there and lodging so there are no other costs. All I am wasting is time. I’d probably cycle on Saturday if not at the game so I’ve lost a bit of exercise.

      • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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        It doesn’t only take into consideration monetary. This is literally a textbook demonstration of this fallacy. See below.

        Economists argue that sunk costs are not taken into account when making rational decisions. In the case of a Yankees ticket that has already been purchased, the ticket-buyer can choose between the following two end results if he realizes that he doesn’t like the game:

        Having paid the price of the ticket and having suffered watching a game that he does not want to see, or;

        Having paid the price of the ticket and having used the time to do something more fun.

        In either case, the ticket-buyer has paid the price of the ticket so that part of the decision no longer affects the future. If the ticket-buyer regrets buying the ticket, the current decision should be based on whether he wants to see the game at all, regardless of the price, just as if he were to go to a free Yankees game. The economist will suggest that, since the second option involves suffering in only one way (spent money), while the first involves suffering in two (spent money plus wasted time), option two is obviously preferable.

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          That’s a little crude for an example of a sunk cost. Since the ticket is a commodity, one can still make the decision to sell it. It’s not necessarily irreversible, as it must be to be sunk. If after selling it there is a monetary loss, then one has two sunk costs–price differential and a finite decision to skip the game. If one doesn’t sell the ticket, there is no sunk cost until the ticket can no longer be used.

          Since the opportunity costs are still in flux and undetermined, they are all still prospective costs and valid for rationally assessing a decision.

          • Jack says:
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            I do understand what they’re trying to say about the sunk cost in their example. But they forgot to assess the ticket as a commodity. This would be a valid sunk cost if it were any number of tickets one can purchase which are non-refundable and non-transferable.

          • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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            Yes, the overall situation is more complicated; however, in this thread he was treating the tickets as a sunk cost (only because he tried to sell them but couldn’t get a price he deemed good enough).

            Angry said “I don’t have much to say about it and my energy (and your energy) can be better spent elsewhere. ” He also said he was going because he already spent the money in a comment he deleted. Thus, the sunk cost fallacy. Though he still denies it.

            If he actually felt this way, then the best course of action would be to sell his tickets for whatever return he can get and do whatever activities he thinks would be a better use of his time.

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            I know what you’re saying, but there is no sunk cost until it’s irreversible, no matter how one feels up to that point. The fallacy part is due to emotion being irrelevant to the decision. But until the decision is actually made we can’t assess the reasoning.

          • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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            Maybe you guys are too busy, but it’s a Saturday, and I also do fun stuff before and after the game.

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    Is it my turn to post this link this year? I forget.

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    Just found out my cousin gave his verbal to the evil empire down south to pitch, class of 2015. Looks like I’ll be attending some Duck games in the near future

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    Just got done watching Talking Beavers and I’m drunk on beaver juice. 21-17 Beavs.

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      I don’t ever want to watch a show called Talking Beavers that stars Lindsay. Too scary

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        Maybe your name should be “beaver juice soaked napkins”

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      Your breath must really stink.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Don’t know anything about him. Probably a neat deal though. Hopefully he finds his identity

    http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2014/10/matt_snyder_3-star_te_commits.html

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      His identity — a decent player who now plays for a coach who cant properly manage a game. So he is learning how to lose when he should or at least could, win. The lesson will prepare him for life….

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        well shit! He’ll be used to that when he arrives in Corntucky. No wonder he “fell in love with Corvallis and the coaching staff”

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    OT… what are the thoughts on the ballot measures here in Oregon?

  • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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    Banker. I swear he is actually Jack Nicholson:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/10/qa_with_oregon_state_beavers_d_1.html

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    The defense looked good against Utah, except for over 200 yards of rushing and the horrible holding no calls. Nelson was being held into the endzone.

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    Murphy goes for a shoulder block instead of a tackle, gives up a 42 yard TD instead. Good work!

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    And now BOTH TEs pick up false starts. Fucking amazing. 2nd and 20.

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    Bolden drops the wide open pass. Fucking bench that scrub already.

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    4th and 7, and our safeties are at least 15 yards back. No fucking reason to be. Hogan throws a 7 yard hook route, first down, safeties never saw the play.

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    Hogan throws another pick, this time to Doctor, all the way to their 5 yard line. If Hogan wasn’t so bad we’d get blown out.

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    Murphy blows another tackle, 28 yard run. Stopped only by the RB tripping. God we are so bad…

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    OMG Murphy gets stiff-armed by Hogan, touchdown.

    Seriously, wtf is the point of a safety who just lets EVERYTHING by him?

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