07.Mar.2015 Gary Andersen, Not Happy

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Says they look like a team day 1 not day 3. Rips on the guys for not being mentally strong, pre-snap awareness, etc.

Rips Mamma Machado and her softball question “who won the day today” with “were you at practice?”. Great stuff.

It’s going to be hard to shake the Riley out of these players. Poor Nebraska.

Andersen looks dis-heartened already. Click here.

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  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    I attended most today’s football practice at Reser. Here are a few observations.

    1. This was only Day 3 of Spring practice, and the first day wearing shoulder pads (not full pads — players still wearing shorts). Yet there was a LOT of hitting. The OLine and DLine went at it during their drills together. In the 11-on-11 scrimmage, there were refs, and there was lots of contact on both the line of scrimmage and in the defensive backfield. Guys were going hard and competing the whole practice. Very different than how Riley and Banker ran their practices, especially this early in the Spring.

    2. During the OLine vs DLine drills, Andersen took the lead role. The linemen competed in two separate groups. Andersen would walk over to one group, signal for the drill to start, and watch intently as the Oline and Dline in that group went at each other. Andersen would blow his whistle to stop the drill, and then hustle over to the other group to get them going. Andersen went back and forth this way for 5-7 minutes, yelling encouragement, praising or criticizing particular linemen for their play, and sometimes taking a lineman aside for a private word. In my years of watching OSU practices, I never saw Riley or Banker behave quite like this. I believe the players have gotten the message — this is a whole new level of competition during practices, and a much more involved head coach.

    3. During the pre-scrimmage drills, the seven QBs split reps more or less equally. But not during the 11-on-11 scrimmage. During the scrimmage, each QB only got a few plays in a row (around 3 or 4 plays) before another QB subbed in. However, some QBs (e.g., Del Rio) got subbed in a lot more often than others (e.g., Tanner Sanders, who got zero reps in the 11-on-11 scrimmage).

    My 19-year-old son was with me during the scrimmage, and he thought Del Rio did poorly for the most part, and was being given extra chances by the coaching staff to strut his stuff. The only QB who really stood out in any positive way during the scrimmage (in my view) was Seth Collins, and that was for his running, not his passing (Collins looks fast out there when he is running the ball — he used his speed to get around the corner a couple of times for nice gains).

    Who are the favorites in the QB derby? I’d say Collins is in the mix. Probably Del Rio is, too (although not clear he has earned that on the field, from what I saw today). Sanders is presumably out of the competition (given that Sanders got no reps in the 11-on-11 scrimmage). Kempt didn’t get many reps in the scrimmage, either, so he may be out of the running. That leaves Mitchell, Vanderveen, and McMaryion. Hard to choose among them from what I saw today — it will be interesting to see what the coaches do.

    4. Peko participated, and he did well. But don’t want to get too excited about that, for the obvious reasons.

    • angry angry says:
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      Andersen looks very tired and/or disheartened in the video. Is this just due to the work put in today, or is there any reason to believe he doesn’t like this team or is second guessing his decision? I can’t imagine inheriting Riley players…it’s like 2x the work just to get their minds right.

      • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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        Considering that he worked with the linemen personally today (along with all the other stuff a head coach does normally at practice), he’s probably just tired. Personally, I wouldn’t overthink it too much.

        The players will either rise up to Andersen’s standards, or he won’t let them play.

    • wannabeav says:
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      I was there too. More fully developed post below, but as to the QB “rotation,” here is the exact sequence: Mitchell, Vanderveen, Del Rio, McMaryon, Collins, Kempt, Del Rio, Collins, Mitchell, Collins, McMaryon, Del Rio, Vanderveen, Mitchell, Kempt. From this I deduce that the top three are Mitchell, Collins, Del Rio

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    Eh, at least he’s acknowledging the problem and is trying to fix it unlike Riley. Can’t say I’m too worried, especially since it’s still just the 3rd practice.

    Just need to keep working on it so the team’s ready by September.

  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    I suspect he knew that already, having done his research, and was saying that to urge the players to work harder. Workin em up to a higher standard … will take some doing.

    As to Nebraska, they have had a real coach, so they shouldnt be too bad off at first. Give Riley a chance to dull their minds….

    • angry angry says:
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      They’re going to miss Bo, but the irony is they think (or at least convinced themselves) that they got a gem, and that Beaver fans are sour grapes and going to miss Riley. Boy are they in for a surprise.

  • angry angry says:
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    I love how Andersen bashes their pre-snap awareness and false starts and says their minds wander. Man, total vindication for ABs in that dialogue. We were saying that for years — Riley’s teams have zero discipline and awareness. It was as if they made it up as they went along.

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      Natch…. if the coach, who is getting paid big money, isnt into the games, why should the players care? Hell, even a volunteer coach would probably be more involved, more concerned. The cruise control coach…

    • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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      From what I’ve seen so far, I expect that Andersen’s teams are going to exhibit more toughness — mentally and physically — than Riley’s teams. Andersen is going to be more decisive, less tolerant of excuses (from his players, his coaches, or himself), and a LOT less patient with mental mistakes than were Riley and his coaches. Andersen is going to set higher standards, and challenge players to meet them (quickly weeding out those who fail to do so). Sure, Andersen will still take care of his players and try to help them (on the field and off the field), but I think it’s already looking and feeling different from the kinder, gentler, family vibe that Riley tried to promote as the “identity” of the OSU football program. If there is one phrase to sum up the difference that’s already becoming apparent, I’d go with “increased toughness”.

      • angry angry says:
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        Did you see Collins throw at all? Is he as bad as he looks in his HS film?

        • That Other Guy says:
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          I was there also. He did not throw well at all, but must of the quarterbacks didn’t today. I thought Mitchell was the best of the group today.

          • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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            Machado agrees with you and calls Mitchell the offensive MVP of the day. Says he was the best fit for all 3 of the traits Andersen likes (mind/legs/arm) and most of his throws looked good, although receivers dropped several catchable balls he through

          • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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            …and threw…

          • That Other Guy says:
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            dropped passes where a theme throughout practice today. Sloppy offensive day.

        • wannabeav says:
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          he didn’t look sharp passing; he was the most inclined to “run first” (no surprise there)

        • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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          Angry: Yes, I saw Collins throw quite a few balls in practice drills today, as well as a few passes during the scrimmage. He looked better throwing the ball today at Reser than he looked on his high school highlight films. Still plenty of work to do on his mechanics and his accuracy, but I think Collins can become a decent passer (as well as being a dangerous runner, which he may be already).

  • That Other Guy says:
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    That wasn’t Machado who asked that softball question though.

    • angry angry says:
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      It sounded like her. Who was it? What a bad question from someone who attended practice.

      • That Other Guy says:
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        You are talking about the question around the 1:50 mark, correct? Must be someone new, but I’m like 99% sure it was Machado.

  • Issaquahbeav says:
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    “It’s going to be hard to shake the Riley out of these guys.” Truer words never spoken.

  • angry angry says:
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    I get the impression Andersen doesn’t think highly of what Riley was doing in Corvallis. In the past he complimented him, but you can tell by what he’s saying (now that’s he’s dug in) that he doesn’t think he was a very good coach. I just hope Andersen doesn’t get disheartened and feel like he made the wrong call by coming to OSU (by being around these types of players).

    • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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      He doesn’t seem like the type that just gives up because the players had a bad day at practice…

    • mckalk says:
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      Why would anyone negative Angry’s post, it’s right on the money? Has everyone forgotten Banker’s quotes from a couple of months back about how they (as in the coaching staff) had become stale in Corvallis? Riley,et al. were very close to running the program into the ground and Nebraska provided a miraculous escape hatch.

      I’m keeping my expectations under control, I think Andersen has less to work with then he thought and I think it’s more from the mental than the physical. This is going to take some time.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Was Jack Del Rio there today?? This is from the Tweet window at the top of the page:

    “…Pretty big meeting of football minds….Raiders’ coach Jack Del Rio and Coach Andersen. #gobeavs pic.twitter.com/aAnLOtgID4…”

    If so, I wonder if he was there to find out if his son should be transferring out?

  • wannabeav says:
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    a few thoughts in addition to the short ones I posted above:

    I also saw stuff today I never witnessed at a Riley-run practice. For example. During the scrimmage, after rotating through a few QB’s, play “stops” while a Field Goal is attempted in the opposite direction. EVERYONE WATCHES, which has the effect of simulating a modicum of pressure. Under Riley the kickers were always dinking around by themselves with few, if any, game-like opportunities. After the first field goal missed, wide right, Andersen yells: “Beavers Lose,” that is, the simulation was an end of game field goal to win, which failed. I was stunned by the genius of this coaching technique which simulated a pressure situation and the clear notice that this guy is going to keep guys accountable.

    It was also fascinating watching the QB’s (and “skill guys”) learning how to scan the side-line to watch the signal call come in. In the Riley era he stood in the deep offensive backfield approximate to the huddle and whispered the call to the QB. Andersen stands in the DEFENSIVE backfield while Baldwin signals in the play from the sideline. The linemen go to the position and simply wait for the QB to being the sequence.

    THERE WAS A PLAY CLOCK at practice, at the far north end, (solar powered, by the way). I NEVER remember seeing a play clock at a Riley practice. Most of the plays were getting off in the high teens, low 20’s (time remaining), or about 8-10 seconds slower than the Ducks manage.

    Del Rio fumbled the first time he kept the ball on the read option and he was later picked (rather nicely) by Nolan-Lewis but most memorably he rolled out to his left (the play was heading south) and DOVE for the first down marker (and seemed to make it). We all cheered, not being able to remember the last time we had seen such a thing..Del Rio threw a nice side arm on a roll out that connected. Collins had the only long QB runs after a “read”. Mitchell and Villamin seem to have good chemistry, connecting on some nice passes.

    After scrimmage the team ran sprints from sideline to sideline. Never remember seeing that before either. (see the theme here?)

    The air was filled with coaches whistles before scrimmage. It was like a three ring circus, with so much going on; unlike Riley practices where folks were often seen just standing around in groups.

    Bottom line: this team practiced harder than I’ve seen many a Riley team perform in games. It will be more a more disciplined, tougher team, and more fit. I wouldn’t make too much of Andersen’s demeanor. What I think he’s messaging is exactly what you’ve picked up on, Angry: this was a poorly coached team heretofore and he’s got his work cut out for him. It’s also SOP “lowering expectations” gambit coaches love to deploy

    • Jack says:
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      Fucking wide right and Beavs lose.

      Thanks Jose.

      • Bob says:
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        No Jack, go back a little further, thank you Ryan Cesca.

  • WFO WFO says:
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    My biggest pet peeve about Riley’s teams:

    LOLLYGAGGERS!

    Apparently dragging ass around the field bugs Andersen too.

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    This is what happens when you switch from a coaching staff that’s mailed it in, to one that’s still hungry and passionate.

    A team takes on the personality of its head coach, indeed.

  • angry angry says:
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    Mitchell was the QB in most of the Blitz and youtube film, now we’re hearing he’s the one with all three traits. My guess is that GA wants to start Collins if he can, but if he doesn’t progress as a passer he’ll probably go with Mitchell. I’m curious why McMaryion isn’t higher on the list. He looked like a pretty good runner and passer on film, and I heard he had a very high GPA.

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      Mitchell is sneaky quick, no where near the athleticism that Collins has. Appears to have fixed his jump throw thing also. At least that didn’t pop out to me when watching him.

      • angry angry says:
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        I saw the jump throw in the youtube video of him. Chad Pennington did something similar and played in the NFL, so it’s not a deal breaker, but it’s not ideal.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      granted this video was of his hs highlights as a junior. But hopefully someone can enlighten me because I’m either a complete idiot (highly possible) or I just don’t understand. The offense run in this video is not of a spread option team. My biggest concern on some of these passes is Mitchell seemed locked to his initial primary receiver. Watch some of the other receivers and they are fucking wide open. Also, on those end zone corner fades I saw, those receivers were open by at least 5 yards most of the time. That will not happen against Pac-12 defensive backs. Either his HS team had some freakishly fast receivers or they were beating up on lesser competition. My question is this for someone who has the knowledge of spread offenses. I know that the QB takes the snap and then holds the ball into the gut of the RB. Then makes the decision based on what he reads (hence, read-option) decides to keep it himself (run or pass) or hands off to the RB. Is the play pre-determined should the QB decide to fake the hand off and keep it who he is going to throw the ball to? Or does he have to go thru his progressions as well?

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    I kind of think Andersen is locked on to Seth Collins as Chuckie-2 (not the movie!). He is in early, he will be in the system for 4 years, He’s an Andersen recruit. No time like the present, it’s not like the Beavs are going to compete for a North title next season.

    • angry angry says:
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      That’s sure what it seems like. It seems like he wants Collins to win the job but will use Mitchell if it doesn’t happen. I think the odds of Del Rio playing are close to 0. Del Rio’s interview was entertaining…seems like a good guy, but he just is erratic and not what GA is looking for imo.

      • Jack says:
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        He’s not the right athlete for this style. Imagine running a spread option with Jim Plunkett.

      • mckalk says:
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        We will have to expect more injuries at the QB position in the system, it’s going to happen.

    • Jack says:
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      Yup… coach gots his guy. Coach gonna pass on some short kid named Moore.

      Yup.

  • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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    Mitchell is the one who had really impressed on the scout team with his arm and his legs this year and was even seen as the most likely to challenge Del Rio before Riley left according to Gina Mizell.

    Doesn’t surprise me to see him in the likely top 3. I agree, probably with Seth Collins and Del Rio.

  • Jack says:
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    His last two albums have been stellar.

  • Jack says:
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    And I’ve always loved Malo’s voice… and am very happy the new album is finally here.

    • Jack says:
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      ?

      Wow… the address was correct. And now I’m not going to go back and find it. It was the Mavericks “Cruise Sessions” with Malo going heavy on “Blue Bayou” and doing it well.

      Oh well.

    • Jack says:
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      And… by far… my favorite French band….

    • Jack says:
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      Who am I missing for now? Trombone Shorty? Martin Sexton? should I post both?

      Heh heh… Uncle Dan….

      • OSU97 says:
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        Jack, stick to music and you’re terrific. Sports, tolerable. Politics, well have a niced day, thanks for the music.

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        One of my sons has taken up the trombone. If I hear “Rock and Roll Part 2” one more time I’m going to rip the instrument out of his………nevermind.

      • CraigBeav says:
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        I saw Trombone Shorty at Festival International in Lafayette LA. He was incredible…. actually the whole festival was incredible. And it’s coming right up again. Suggest you all try to make it down to Acadiana at least once before you die.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    off the main topic of this thread but unless the Beavs have a decent run in the Pac-12 tourney, I’d say the chances of an NIT berth are pretty much dead. Currently with an RPI of 117 (how in the fuck does Colorado have a higher RPI?) it is highly unlikely. Highest RPI of an NIT team in last years field was 88. Gonna be real tough to move up 30 or so spots. I like their chances against the Buffs though. And I for one welcome the challenge of the ducks again should they advance. However the Utes seem to be fading lately and that may have been a better opportunity. But the beavs blew that chance losing Wednesday night and the Utes did us no favors by losing to the hussies (how in the fuck did that happen?). Right now if I was a betting man, I’d wager on a ‘Cats/ducks Pac-12 tourney championship. But I’m also a village idiot and not a betting man. Bring on the conference tournaments!

    FYI Portland dismantled St Mary’s in the WCC tourney Saturday night. How many here would have predicted that?????

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      I don’t follow Utah basketball that closely anymore, but I think losing to Arizona at home took some on the wind out of their sails. I was kind of like, “damn we are not an elite team yet”. I guess the stupid ass Huskies must want a CBI bid, so they decided to play lights out in the 2nd half.

      As for the Beavs, I would think they have to win two games and I’m not sure that’s even enough for a NIT bid. The Duck loss still doesn’t sit well with me, the foul line discrepancy pisses me off, Beavs can’t get a break at home against Nikegon even when otherwise they did a lot things really well on Wednesday. Especially holding the Ducks under 40% shooting.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        Tinkle mentioned the FT shooting disparity in the post game press conference basically asking the same thing. Offensive rebounds played a little bit into it. But agree, how does a team that shoots more 3’s wind up shooting 13 more FT’s? I didn’t think it was a poorly officiated game but it wasn’t good either.

    • angry angry says:
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      I’ve been saying Utah is overrated all year. They just wouldn’t scare me at all, and a good upset pick in the tournament.

      NIT went out the window with Tinkle’s heart-wrenching gesture. The good news, I am told, is it will lead to great recruits down the line.

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    Whisky, there was an interesting article in the paper about the Pilots, they had lost four straight with terrible second periods (kind of like the Beavs). Reveno decided to stop practices about an hour in and send the team to the locker room for 15 minutes with the expectation that the second half of practice had more energy. I guess it worked against St.Mary’s.

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    Hey Wayne T……. I have a really good friend that leaves in Las Vegas. Alum and former long time basketball season ticket holder. He was All-Sate in basketball as a high schooler. It turns out he is available Wednesday night and is willing to stop by the tournament. Any chance you could work him into the lineup? He doesn’t have to start as he is willing to come off the bench. Please advise at your earliest convenience. He probably needs to do a little stretching. JB

    • Jack says:
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      Leaves what?

      • scotty says:
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        How do you think what happens in Vegas STAYS there?

    • helmsley says:
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      jb – If your friend is age 17-23, has spent several hours a day since last October running plays at mbb practice so the 7 (now 6) scholarship players can actually have a practice, been on the bench as a source of encouragement, with little or no chance of playing in a game, made road trips with no reward except in Pullman, and, if said friend has also dutifully attended classes at OSU,and is from Oregon, I suppose he could play.

  • HireHowland says:
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    Men’s Civil War and women in Pac-12 tourney appearances both turned from wins to losses after missed layups. Both layups go in and there is 90% odds both games are wins.

    If OSU doesn’t beat Colorado my impressions of Tinkle will take a dent. Losing 7 of last 8 isn’t too swell. All about getting the W’s.

    • mckalk says:
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      What do you fail to comprehend about the THIRD WINNING SEASON IN THE LAST 25 YEARS????

      • HireHowland says:
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        Like Angry, I don’t feel a walk-on gesture was worth risking the 2nd NIT in 25 years. They finished the seaon poorly an what was a very hard to fuck up important NIT appearance for the program was lost. I think they will get it next year but major lost opportunity. Rolling the dice was not called for. 1 win out of the 6 losses was and not to see that they Riley choked this is buying into the stereotype. Good teams will finish strong and we weren’t very close to this down the stretch. A 7 seed beating a 10 seed isn’t anything great..it is expected. If we lose it will be underperformance. Oregon wouldn’t spin losing as OK and we mustn’t either.

        We beat CU and then take on the Ducks if we have any relevance. Then let the better team win. I don’t think it will be us but it could be with the right attitude to fight for 40 minutes. Only give us 45% odds to beat CU right now though. Too many excuses and ifs and buts at the end. You have the entire offseason to recover. Making NITs and having the most recent own the state vibe from winning most recent Civil War are big. Don’t accept warm Riley fuzzies telling you otherwise. Losing to a 10 seed would be bad. Get to the Duck matchup and go out there believing you will do what it takes to win.

        • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          I give higher odds at beating CU. OSU may play shittier away from Gill but so does everyone else (save for UA). I’d say 65/35.

        • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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          @ hirehowland: What are you smoking and can I get some?

        • cj cj says:
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          Like Angry told me in a different thread…it’s time to pull your head out and breathe some fresh air!

    • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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      Most predicted this team to only win 5 or so games this entire season…

      Losing Victor Robbins and having no scholarship bench outside of N’diaye were bound to wear down the team in the long run.

      You’re not being realistic IMO.

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        Yep … criticism of Tinkle at this point is just total nonsense imo. If there ever was a rebuilding year, THIS is it. The fact that he could start ALL walkons is a fantastic comment about the state of the team. How many other teams in the freakin country, could do that??? And getting a winning record this year?!? A freakin miracle…

  • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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    Finally watched the GA interview.

    To me it seems like the offense would be struggling due to having 7 different QBs rotating in and out. Each QB is getting less experience, and the team is having to adapt to different QBs, in a completely new offense.

    Narrowing it down to a top 3, and eventually top 1 should really make the offense run better, not only because of the added cohesion they will begin to feel as a unit, but also by virtue of just having the more talented QBs getting the reps.

    GA mentioned he often overreacts and needs to watch the film to get an objective view. I think reading too much into this would be a mistake at this point.

    Overall, I definitely like how GA seems much more proactive, and I like how these practices are reportedly so much more intense than in past years. I’m so much happier and more excited for the future of the team than I’ve ever been.

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    Question to you all: Would you rather just end the men’s season after the Pac-12 tourney or would you rather go to the CBI?

    I’m rather sick of that tournament, and our guys really need to get it over with. Plus I really want to take that CBI banner DOWN and replace it with the women’s basketball Pac-12 title banner. Establish this new winning culture.

    I’m fully satisfied with this season as is, so I’d be okay with just limping out of it and getting some rest and have everyone plan for season 2 while taking in some good NCAA tourney games.

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      They should take down that CBI banner. No CBI.

      Agree, replace it with the women’s banner.

      Beavs actually have an easy path (I’d argue the easiest, they only have to beat CO and Oregon to make the semi final) in the PAC-12 tournament so you never know…

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      Regardless, that CBI banner needs to come down before next season. Replacing with women’s Pac-12 Champions is a good idea. Even if we went to and won the CBI this year I wouldn’t want a banner for even 1 year. Having the CBI banner still up is a disgrace to the program’s goals. It is the equivalent of automatic extensions to Riley for 6-6 seasons.

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        See my above post and pull it out…

        • cj cj says:
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          ..take a deep breath, then stick it back up if you want to.

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      Unless it costs a crapload of money, I say let the players decide

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        agreed. Let the players decide if they want to continue. They may be beat up enough that they don’t. Hard to say. Guess we’ll find out in a week.

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    CBI banner is fine, winning a tournament is winning a tournament. I like how all of us want to decide, if I’m a fucking player I want to keep playing until there are no more games to play. I could give two shits about perception. Keep getting better under Tinkle and things will take care of themselves and maybe there won’t be anymore room for the CBI banner. The 2008 squad went to UTEP and won in front of 11,000 basketball freaks. I’m good with it. I bet Ricky Claitt is ok with it too.

  • angry angry says:
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    Odd request, but I’m looking for cheap suet/tallow (beef kidney/loin fat) or beeswax if any of you guys hunt and/or raise bees and discard those. I’m embarrassed to admit I am an avid soap and candle maker (but not a baker, sorry Scotty). I know some of you guys are avid hunters so maybe we can work something out.

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      Let me know if you do find a good Beeswax provider. I get mine from a local farm up here in Napa, but I’d be happy to find a better source.

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        How much do you pay per lb? Do you buy from a local beekeeper? Most beekepers use pesticides, so it is tough to find good beeswax. I do have a source for organic, but it’s a bit costly at 6.40lb. I am trying to do better.

        Do you use it for candles or what?

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          My wife makes chapstick. Lots of it. Anyone wanna buy some chapstick?? I’ll let you know her price she buys at. We get it from a local farmer. Pesticides and bees generally are not a good mix. Are you getting yours from San Marcos Farms?

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            Gotcha. Funny, my lady has been stealing my beeswax to experiment with chapstick. Beeswax chapstick is nice. She mixes it with a little shea and coconut.

            No, San Marcos is not who I purchase from. I purchase from a guy on ebay–it was the best price I could find. There’s a beekeeper right up the road from me, but the hives got attacked by wasps…there is also a local butcher selling suet for 2.99/lb. I found it for 4.99lb online, so I am not sure which is the better deal after I spend my time and energy rendering it. I bet the lb from a butcher doesn’t render down to a full lb of tallow.

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            So my wife says youve got a good price on beeswax. The price she is buying at varies on the season, said she paid almost double at our local farm. But then she also questions the origin of online providers. I think starting a bee colony would be super fun. Maybe you could make your own beeswax?

          • angry angry says:
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            There’s a very interesting BBC documentary about beekeeping. You should check it out on youtube. I forget the name, but just type in BBC beekeeping documentary. I agree, seems really intresting.

            I got a low price because I bought in bulk (16lbs and 25lb shipments). Does she buy one bar at a time? I did that early on, and it was 12.50/lb. The source is organic, pesticide free. He is a serious beekeeper and even put up a brick and morter storefront. I think the low price is due to large scales (he has 700 colonies).

            I thought I could do better, still, because I heard of some people getting it for $2/lb (those beekeepers must new/amateurs and not know the market and just think the wax is unwanted byproduct).

            If you would buy in bulk shoot me an email, and I will send you the provider. I’ve used his wax, and he/it is legit.

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            I hear there is really a buzz about that documentary.

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            You’re not going to beat $6.40/lb for organic beeswax. That’s a great price. Suet v. tallow or lard… who knows. If you can find consistency in the rendered form, it’s probably worth the gains in time and effort. You don’t make your own lye for the same reasons. Right?

            I’ve never bought from http://www.essentialdepot.com/ because their tallow isn’t grass-fed. But if you don’t care about that, they have good prices which get better with volume. I go through US Wellness Meats.
            http://grasslandbeef.com/

          • angry angry says:
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            I just purchased tallow from ED last month. So far it seems good (made only 1 batch of soap with it), but it’s strange they write on the package not to use it for cooking. I’m now wondering what they add to it. I wrote to ask why it says that, but haven’t received a response. I’ve never used lard. I know some people prefer it. Tallow is more traditional, especially for shaving soap, which is what I’m going to be making with the tallow. Crisco is surprisingly okay as an olive oil supplement. Tallow is more akin to palm’s properties, and you don’t have to deal with sustainability guilt/issues of palm. In general my go to recipe is palm or tallow, olive, coconut, castor. This makes the best body soap. I’ve been experimenting with allepo soap and exotics. Laurel bay makes a very interesting soap…campfire/smokey scent.

            Glad to hear 6.40 is a great price on the beeswax. I read $2 somewhere and freaked out, thinking I was getting hosed.

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            We get all our oils from Mountain Rose Herbs since we can just drive down and pick them up. Native American Naturals is the other I would use. I’ve heard avocado oil is the best plant based oil for skin, but it’s not as stable as palm. So it’s not as efficient. Tallow is better than palm if grass-fed. that’s how you get the CLAs and an O6/O3 ratio of 1/1. Otherwise, you don’t get the CLAs and about a 6/1 ratio. I’m not sure what that means for the skin, but that’s why I buy the better stuff for food. My wife uses it with just coconut and her essentials for soap bars. Damn things are pretty bulky at first.

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            She makes soap? Awesome.

            Avocado is fantastic for skin. It’s very similar to olive (most soapers use pomace olive, which is solvent extracted, so there’s debate there). I’ve used refinded and raw avocado. The raw is green, has a nice, mild scent, but is very expensive. The refined is yellow, cheaper and good for a Castile style or a superfat in hot processing. It’s also good for lotions. I’m not sure how into this you (or your wife) are, Jack, but a few sleeper oils are seabuckthorn, watermelon, and apricot. I’d only use them in hot process where you have fine control over the superfat, but they add a very nice moisture to the skin. I use them in bars designed specifically for the face.

            I recently made a bar with 56% avocado, and had no issues with stability. It’s soft oil, so the real problem is a long cure.

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            She used to make candles too. But now we just use oils and a diffuser (electric). Still use wax in the fall when canning, though.

  • angry angry says:
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    I didn’t realize Nick Mitchell was Josh Mitchell’s brother.

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      I did. I remember thinking it smacked of Riley nepotism, and being unimpressed with the commit. Glad to be wrong.

  • zenbeav says:
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    http://dataomaha.com/media/sports/2015/huskers/mike-riley/

    • angry angry says:
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      “I like cruisers because they’re pretty low-maintenance, right? There’s no gears. I don’t have to do much except make sure there’s air in the tires.”

      lolololololololololllllllllllllz
      sums up his coaching so well.

      • BeavGirl BeavGirl says:
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        “In an industry of foul-mouthed egomaniacs, Riley drove a Prius and toted a yoga mat.”
        How is this a good thing in relation to coaching/why are they trying to act like what car he drives is even relevant ?

        “His favorite four-letter word: neat. ”
        of course it is.

        “Riley the football coach had his critics. Riley the person had only admirers.”
        Um I’d like to hear what Brenda Tracy has to say about that.

        “You’ll never hear a negative word about him,” says another retiree at the table.
        ….except this entire site has been built on “negative words” about him.

        “Maybe there are pieces of Riley even they don’t understand. That beneath the Mr. Rogers persona, there’s a son seeking his father’s pride, a will to win forged in the schoolyard, an adventurous spirit that doesn’t age.”
        huh???????????????????????????////

        lolol this article. A+ propaganda job from the huskers. keep that rationalization hamster rolling (preferably on a low maintenance cruiser).

      • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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        That Andy Wooldridge fellow wouldn’t happen to be you, would it?

        • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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          Actually, nevermind. You would never say “it’s hard to recruit to Corvallis” lol.

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          Andy is over at “Building the Dam”. I comment there everyone great once in awhile. I don’t remember that much criticism though.

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        I couldn’t finish the whole story, it went on and on. There weren’t really any great revelations. It just seemed to keep the St.Riley persona going. If this hire is somehow a success I will be stunned, partly because Nebraska’s expectations are so much higher and partly because of his abilities as a coach.

    • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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      Read the whole thing. It’s interesting how so many suspicions we’ve had (especially DeCarolis demanding Banker be fired) seem to be confirmed by this piece.

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        I will have to put out a “Thank you Huskers, from Oregon State” banner in the tailgate lot when they visit Minneapolis this year.

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          Maybe we should print thank you cards and slip bike coupons inside. That’d be a neat deal (get it?) 😀

        • mckalk says:
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          I envision a “Welcome to Lincoln” postcard with MR waving on his bicycle while pedaling manically in front of Memorial Stadium……vigourously chewing his gum also.

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    OT, heading to Vegas for the first time next week. Any suggestions, hook-ups or things to look for or do! We will be there sun-wed, not big gamblers, see some shows and do some drinking!

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      where you staying? and “we” as in you and your lady or a group of buddies?
      See the cirque show called Ka, at MGM. It’s older but pretty amazing. you can often find 2for1 deals and up front seating isnt necessarily better because the show is so big you need to sit back to take it all in. Check out freemont street one evening. Wear comfortable shoes because you’ll walk a ton. Get some pool time. I’ll think of more stuff once i know more about where you’ll be, etc..

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        Fremont Street is a freak show. Be prepared for people dressed in weird costumes looking for a handout for their picture taken. Recommend Oscar’s Steakhouse in the Plaza Hotel on Fremont.

        On the strip, be sure to go into The Cosmopolitan. Cool hotel but table minimums are $15. At least go in for a drink and people watch. Another good steakhouse is Delmonicos inside the Palazzo.

    • OrangeFlush OrangeFlush says:
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      Blue man group is a fantastic show

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      My wife and I took our kids to Vegas a couple of months ago for a 5-day vacation. We picked up discount tickets to eat at the “Top of the World Restaurant”, located 800 feet above The Strip. The restaurant completes a 360 degree revolution every 80 minutes, providing a panoramic view of the city and surrounding mountains. The food was pricey (even with the discount tickets) but good. http://www.topoftheworldlv.com/ The discount tickets to eat at the restaurant also provided us with free admission to the observation deck, where we particularly enjoyed watching the scared people on the thrill rides. http://www.stratospherehotel.com/Activities/Thrill-Rides .

  • osubaby osubaby says:
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    Wife and I, Ka is on the list of things to do. Staying at the Mirage…

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      You going to the B-ball tourney?

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      Your making a great choice going during the week. You’ll still have the same Vegas vibe just not as packed and crazy everywhere. Living in LA we do about 3-4 trips to Vegas per year and we have found that going during the week is the ideal time to go whenever possible.

      Shows

      1. Mystere
      2. Absinthe ( assuming your cool with some nudity its hilarious)
      3. O

      Some drinking places:

      1. Ghost Bar at Palms
      2. Eye Candy at Mandalay
      3. Vesper bar at Cosmo

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        Good friend of mine is the General Counsel as Cosmo. Some great views of the city from that place… and some really really good restaurants. Just don’t wander into the wrong gender’s bathroom. 🙂

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          Buddy of mine accidentally wandered into the ladies bathroom after having too many drinks at The Bellagio. Almost got kicked out of the casino!

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      Never stayed at the Mirage. One of the first “new vegas” casinos. The volcano is still pretty cool over there.
      I always grab a bite to eat nearby at Strip Burger whenever I go to Vegas. Outdoor seating.
      http://stripburger.com/

      Bellagio fountains are cool if you’ve never seen them. Take a walk through the Wynn and Encore. Actually, just walk through most of the hotel/casinos. There’s so much to see. For cheap transportation, the city bus called the “Deuce” is a good way to get from one end of the strip to the other for a few bucks. It’s not super quick, but it’s good to give your feet a break.

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      Love is a great show if you dig music of The Beetle’s.

      La Cave at the Wynn is my wife and I’s favorite restaurant. It’s small plate / tapas. Mandatory for us to eat there at least once per trip.

      If your looking for a pretty cool atmosphere that’s chill / no cover with some good people watching: head down to NYNY for a night. They have an awesome dueling piano bar as well as 9 fine Irishmen.

      • osubaby osubaby says:
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        Thank you everybody! Will try check out the suggestions.

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    New Juco commit at DE for 2015. see twitter feed for more info –»

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    Payton II with a trio of honors, 1st team PAC12, All defensive team, Def player of the Year.

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    Eggers with some good quotes

    http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/253015-121560-new-look-starts-now-for-andersens-beavers

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      “I also noticed tackle Kyle Peko, whose long battle to gain academic eligibility has grown to almost epic proportions in Beaver Nation. Sources say coaches are confident he will pass a class this spring and be eligible for August training camp.”

      I laughed my ass off when I read that. What class was that again? And how many times has it been attempted? Like GA says, there’s a winner and loser everyday. If this was a FG attempt it would be shanked wide right every time. Backwards

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        You can take “never ending” on line courses where there are no winners or losers…..only non-qualifiers.

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    Ha, Stephen A. Smith is calling out Chip Kelly saying his personnel decisions are ratially motivated.

    http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/03/09/stephen-a-smith-chip-kellys-decisions-have-left-brothas-uncomfortable/

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    Sounds like Angry’s “pick” for starting QB is already out of the running…. What an eye for talent!

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      http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/5b/ed/4b/5bed4b424bd69cb01dba918cfebf5c8b.jpg

      Was there some sort of announcement? I thought GA said we’d find out early this week but I haven’t seen anything yet

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      Says the guy who has such a large, gaping vagina that he didn’t go on record with a prediction. My track record of analyzing players speaks for itself. All you have to do is check the recruiting rankings and read the posts saying who should be playing where. It’s like 90% accurate.

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      Who is your pick, Angry²?

      I think we won’t know until tomorrow’s practice. IDK if there will be a formal announcement, but three QB’s should get markedly more reps so we should be able to infer who they are.

      Honestly, trying to pick the top 3 off of HS film that is years old is pretty stupid anyway.

      Based off what I’ve read and heard in interviews…

      I feel like it’ll be Collins assuming he lives up to their expectations. He is their guy and fits exactly with what they want. There have been numerous comparisons to Keeton by the staff and he’s the one they have praised by name.

      Mitchell was the dark horse to challenge Del Rio under Riley anyway. He impressed on the scout team, running and throwing, while emulating the various spread offenses we had to face. Not quite the athlete they want at QB, but probably the closest thing we had on the roster.

      Del Rio might be the best pure passer, but that isn’t going to be the emphasis from what I’ve gleaned. He’s not a statue like Canfield, Mannion, or Anderson, but he’s not going to gain more than a few yards on most runs. Still, I’m guessing his passing ability puts him ahead of the other QBs.

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        I think Mitchell will be the 1 for now, and by Fall Andersen hopes Collins progresses enough as a passer to take the job.

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          I was trying to say “angry squared” for that guy “angry@angry.” It didn’t really work though since it shows up so small. I wondered what he thought, probably just wants to troll though… 😛

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        What I’m wanting to know is what will happen with the other 4 QB’s? Having 4 guys on scholarship with no shot at playing is a waste. Do any of these guys project to see any playing time at any other positions? Do they transfer out? Why do we even have 7 scholarship QB’s?

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          Well, one of the 7 is Sanders, right? He was going to be a WR but got a shot at QB. He’ll probably move to another position.

          I could see Kempt transferring. I kind of hesitate to include Del Rio in my top 3 since he seems to not be a fit with the new offensive mentality. Maybe he could transfer as well..?

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          You did see Utah St lose 3 QB’s to injury last year right? You need more than a few on the roster. Just in case

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            They only lost 2, right? but 3 started. I know, a little insurance is needed, but we’ve got 3 guys with a full 4 years left (Mitchell, McMaryion, Collins, Sanders?) 2 guys with 3 years left (DelRio, Kempt) and VanDerVeen. Some of that depth needs to be thinned out. Sanders makes sense for a position change.

            I don’t think Anderson is afraid to burn Collins redshirt year this year either. Looking back, he started Keaton as a true freshman on the road vs Auburn. Should have won too. Check out the highlights of that game to get an idea for how we should expect to see the Beavs playing soon, although maybe not this year.

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            They were down to the 4th string QB at the end of the season

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    Creepy Dana Altman wins P12 Coach of the Year. What a joke!

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      Good for Altman. Now he doesn’t have to go back to his old job of being the creepy guy at Walmart

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        Since when did they have Evangelion toys at Walmart? And isn’t that kid too young for that show? Sheesh! *rabble rabble*

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    Paul Lucas career sounds similar to Thomas Tyner in his highschool days. This kid has some serious speed, and sounds like a real T&F talent

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    Oh I see. So who else then, Tinkle? Young named POY, are you upset with that as well?

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      Young would be the reason Altman should not be COY. Without him, Nikegon sucks eggs. Krystowiak probably deserved it, and Tinkle and Miller would be a distant second… in no particular order.

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      I’m guessing you were trying to reply to me. Yes, Tinkle or Krystkowiak. As for Young, I couldn’t care less.

  • ochoco kid says:
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    By the way, I think Tinkle’s a good coach, and that was awesome what he did, starting the CW game with his benchers. That’s not why the beavers lost the game. GP II chosen as DPOY, very well deserved.

  • cj cj says:
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    Moore named Pac-12 pitcher of the week.

  • Riko says:
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    GP2 named defensive player of the year. Remember when angry said last week he wouldn’t start for any other pac team besides Colorado.

    • scotty says:
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      Probably the worst non-troll take I’ve seen on here TBH

      GP2 = stud, the one guy who completely bucks the “no talent” excuse

      • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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        He couldn’t even start for the Beavs in their last regular season game!

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    First the football team had too many OL and now… the Beavs sign JC OL Leo Fuimaono.

    This could mean Issac isn’t progressing as hoped or it might be the coaching staff has decided that the OL needs help now. Then again……….

    • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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      We had 2 quality guys penciled in on the 1–2 deep medically retire in the last 2 weeks.

      I think the comment means too many projects and neat stories. Could always use more starter quality depth.

    • angry angry says:
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      It’s beginning to sound like we’ll never see isaac seumalo again. 2 surgeries on his foot, and now he’s missing all of spring camp…

    • ean says:
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      I thought it was kind of odd when GA said that we had too many O-lineman. I mean sure 15 or whatever it is is too many but when you only have 3 P12 level starters you got to bring in more talent if it is out there.

  • angry angry says:
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    Baseball still didn’t crack the top 25.

    Edit: looks like they did in 1 poll. http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d1/collegiate-baseball

    • DubiousBeav DubiousBeav says:
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      I guess they should have beat up on Hawaii and New Mexico State.

  • Angry@angry says:
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    My pick is LDR. Regardless off offensive system, he’s the most talented QB. And it’s easy to be 90% right when you’ve already flipped from McMaryion to Mitchell.

    • Jack says:
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      Doofus… that would be an example of the 10%… in case you didn’t know.

      C’mon man!

  • Mb says:
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    Actually, if you pay attention, they lost 4 offensive linemen from depth chart in last few weeks. GA indicated in second week of January that IS would be held out of spring practice. He is a known entity and does not need the work at this time. A few others may be on way out. Lose 4 and add 1. Makes sense to me.

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